A COMPLEX BOI! Integral sin(e^x) from -infinity to infinity using complex analysis

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  • @benmcconnell6008
    @benmcconnell6008 4 роки тому +159

    Your sense of humor is wonderful. Reminds me of myself some 55 years ago in grad school. Loved this presentation.

  • @deeptochatterjee532
    @deeptochatterjee532 6 років тому +216

    *When your integral quickly devolves into a Dirichlet integral*

  • @janderson2709
    @janderson2709 6 років тому +83

    This is almost identical to the question I got on my Complex Analysis exam last year, including using reverse triangle identity to use Jordan's lemma. Pretty sure I tackled it using residues though

  • @albertemc2stein290
    @albertemc2stein290 6 років тому +39

    Every time I see an integral done with contours I am amazed how it works without knowing why :D Love your videos!

  • @nikitaustinov2864
    @nikitaustinov2864 5 років тому +43

    16:10 "So what is a -1" now that's my kind of question

  • @ethanwinters1519
    @ethanwinters1519 5 років тому +24

    4:26 "Mathematicians hate him! Avoid integrating over singularities using this one weird trick"

    • @Xnichfrytk
      @Xnichfrytk 5 років тому +1

      This video is more than one year old... Why is the german boi still checking the comments?

  • @guilhermeserravalle5447
    @guilhermeserravalle5447 5 років тому +16

    At 5:42 The integral of -€ to +€, should be the integral over semicircle of radius €!

  • @alicewonder259
    @alicewonder259 6 років тому +1

    I wanna just take a second to really appreciate this channel. I'm a college freshman, and it's 2 in the morning the Sunday before dead week. And I'm here. The math is over my head, but somehow you present this in a way I can follow, and it's better than any teacher or professor I've had. It's people like you and Grant from 3blue1brown and many other of these math channels that I can thank my love of math for. You just make it so interesting, so elegant, so... exciting, as dorky as that sounds. I can give channels like you a lot of credit to where I am now, a math major. I've always been good at math, but I've never seen it as something I could do for the rest of my life. Not till I found channels like yours. They have instilled a passion in me. I cannot thank you enough. Keep it up, you make some damn good videos

  • @johnsalkeld1088
    @johnsalkeld1088 4 роки тому +2

    Integrals 2 and 4 on the contour are 2i * dirichlet integral (see this by u substitution u = -x) so we quickly get that the value we are looking for is -1/2i * ( integrals 1 and 3) and 1 has a bound with a factor of exp(-Rsin(x)) with sin(x) positive so quickly runs off to zero. The final integral 3 is 1/2 the residue with negative sign as it is clockwise around the origin

  • @OonHan
    @OonHan 6 років тому +141

    i times phi from 0 to pi

    • @OonHan
      @OonHan 6 років тому +10

      Yes I do
      amazing!

    • @OonHan
      @OonHan 6 років тому +2

      lol

  • @The1RandomFool
    @The1RandomFool 4 роки тому +5

    I tried this with complex analysis before watching the video. My closed curve was a little different, but I arrived at the same result. Instead of a half-circle through the complex plane around the first and second quadrant, I chose a quarter-circle, which resulted in a close curve around the 1st quadrant, minus the origin. My complex integrand was e^(iz)/z as well.

  • @thermie
    @thermie 6 років тому +17

    2:20 MAH BOIS
    thats the cue for us to strap in for the ride!

  • @meccamiles7816
    @meccamiles7816 2 роки тому

    Lovely approach. Well done.

  • @quidam3810
    @quidam3810 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much : I have been studying complex analysis on my own from books and for some reason the epsilon part was not clear : it is so much better with an example !! Great video (and channel !!)

  • @rerreinge1884
    @rerreinge1884 5 років тому +5

    Pakai Maclaurin Series: Sin x= x- x^3/ 3!+ x^5/ 5!- .....etc.
    (Sin x)/ x= 1- x^2 /3!+ x^4 /5!- ....etc. Intergral (Sin x)/x= Integral [1- x^2/ 3!+ x^4/ 5!- ....etc) dx

  • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
    @ShaunakDesaiPiano Рік тому

    3:00 while harder to spot, perhaps (eⁱᶻ-1)/z would be a better choice of function (if real valued, its imaginary component is also sinx/x)
    For this function, 0 is a removable singularity rather than a pole, since eⁱᶻ shrinks faster than z, so we can simply ignore it, thus avoiding any circular arc to bypass the singularity.
    Proceeding this way, we would have to assume Jordan’s Lemma to eliminate one of the integrals as R → ∞, but if we are allowed to do that then this is a much “easier” function to deal with.

  • @dohyun031
    @dohyun031 3 роки тому +1

    First watched this video in 2018, in my highschool year, without any idea of what you are talking about. Now after learning some complex analysis, it feels so great to be able to fully understand it!

  • @owen7185
    @owen7185 2 роки тому +2

    Not only excellent explanation and clear layout, but excellent engagement. I'll recommend you to my fellow students

  • @GeodesicBruh
    @GeodesicBruh 5 років тому +6

    That’s just a sine integral (Si) in disguise.
    At the start you can substitute u=e^x and you get the integral from 0 to infinity of sin(u)/(u)du.
    You can use Feynman method to integrate it i think.
    Imma do it and then edit when I’m done.
    Ye just say that I(a)= integral from 0 to infinity of (sin(u)/u)e^(-au)du and differentiate with respect to a.
    Now that I think about it it’s actually pretty trivial lol, anyways the integral evaluates to Pi/2

  • @Roxas99Yami
    @Roxas99Yami 4 роки тому +4

    I remember in last year of high school learning integrals, that i asked myself out of boredum what would the integral of (sin x)/x be. By the methods we had learned then i was looping myself with substitutions. I actually did end up solving it a few weeks later after i read in an engineering book how to taylor expand functions. I expanded the sin(x) and i go in the end an infinite series which corresponded to pi/2 . Felt very nice for a 17 yr old kid.

  • @sarpkaplan4449
    @sarpkaplan4449 6 років тому +15

    man that thing looks simple but it is hard af

  • @notme7475
    @notme7475 6 років тому +37

    MAH BOIS

    • @allaincumming6313
      @allaincumming6313 6 років тому

      Not Me I just heard that line when also read this, :v

  • @Mau365PP
    @Mau365PP 5 років тому +6

    the residue theorem is over 9000 !!!

  • @vgarzareyna
    @vgarzareyna 4 роки тому +3

    This 2018 video lasts 20:18

  • @tomctutor
    @tomctutor 4 роки тому +2

    Its interesting to contrast the solution to this integral using the Feynman technique. You will not need to know Complex Analysis...
    A detailed Ytb video of how this is done, see FLM's nemesis BlackPenRedPen, entitled>
    _The main dish, integral of sin(x)/x from 0 to inf, via Feynman's Technique_

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  4 роки тому +2

      I also did a video using Leibniz^^

  • @badrunna-im
    @badrunna-im 6 років тому +1

    The one that states the closed contour integral of an analytic function is 0 is Cauchy's integral theorem. Cauchy's integral formula is different.

  • @saeida.alghamdi1671
    @saeida.alghamdi1671 4 роки тому +2

    Superb presentation ...! Keep up the good works!

  • @piratesofphysics4100
    @piratesofphysics4100 Рік тому

    This video is an absolute jolly for me as I am new in complex analysis. It helped me clear a lot of concepts

  • @joeyazbeck849
    @joeyazbeck849 6 років тому +1

    You have no idea how helpful your videos are to me. I'm a second year physics student.

  • @BabyXGlitz
    @BabyXGlitz 6 років тому +19

    lim sin(u)/u as u - - > 0 is 1 and not 0, am i right?

  • @spiritgoldmember7528
    @spiritgoldmember7528 6 років тому +12

    I bet you secretly chose phi so you’d have an arsenal of rhymes to use.

    • @hoodedR
      @hoodedR 6 років тому

      dat name

  • @sinishapecov6161
    @sinishapecov6161 6 років тому

    I've just found your channel today and it is the best thing that could happen on this Sunday morning.

    • @sinishapecov6161
      @sinishapecov6161 6 років тому

      Yeah awesome like that first substitution dx=du/u. I'm probably going to laugh all day.

  • @JustSimplySilly
    @JustSimplySilly 6 років тому +1

    I just started taking Complex Variables so I really appreciate this video, thanks.

  • @TJMoir
    @TJMoir 3 роки тому +1

    That's good, trouble is that the complex integral just came from thin air. Why for instance just the upper half plane? (I assume because we don't go to minus infinity?). Also no motivation for using that complex integral in the first place. It works really well but it's like as if you know the answer and work back to the beginning.

  • @sergiogiudici6976
    @sergiogiudici6976 Рік тому

    Good video! My teacher commented It equals the area of the main triangle (base = Pi, heigth =1). It seems pure black magic the cancellations that occur.

  • @skillick
    @skillick Рік тому

    I hadn’t seen that move at 11:30 before, great stuff

  • @meccamiles7816
    @meccamiles7816 2 роки тому

    My favorite German mathematician. Master race lol!!!!

  • @Vedvart1
    @Vedvart1 6 років тому +8

    I defy.
    /r/Anarchy

  • @bon12121
    @bon12121 Рік тому

    10:39 thanks for the explanation!

  • @ozzyfromspace
    @ozzyfromspace 4 роки тому +1

    When in doubt, assume your integral equals zero. You’ll be right like half the time. I kid you not, one of my math TAs told the class this a few years ago 😂😂

  • @josephmartos
    @josephmartos 6 років тому +1

    Man your videos are just wonderful!!!!! Thnx

  • @nr3837
    @nr3837 4 роки тому +1

    my boys !

  • @saeida.alghamdi1671
    @saeida.alghamdi1671 4 роки тому

    You should have clarified the Jordan lemma you utilized to drop the line integral on the Capital Lambda! This is worthy of another relevant presentation!

  • @akirakato1293
    @akirakato1293 6 років тому +2

    my personal favorite is using laplace transform to evaluate the integral.

  • @nablahnjr.6728
    @nablahnjr.6728 4 роки тому +3

    yo blammable baths this is a really nice video of yours
    makes me wish you had a complex analysis playlist wink wink

  • @feniceazzurra7168
    @feniceazzurra7168 3 роки тому +1

    Well yes. I actually ended up here trting to solve Sinx/x with substitution . thank you!

  • @alquinn8576
    @alquinn8576 5 років тому +10

    19:06 "Our *final solution* is..." in a German accent!

  • @soliscrown1272
    @soliscrown1272 6 років тому

    I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Good work.

  • @bertRaven1
    @bertRaven1 4 роки тому

    the sum of the integrals is zero because the contour goes epsilon above the pole at z=0. but if we pick the contour that went epsilon below zero the sum of the integrals would be 2pi*residue with all the rest being the same?

  • @abcdef2069
    @abcdef2069 2 роки тому +1

    at 3:03, i need few more words why you need to use exp(iz)/z

  • @MathIguess
    @MathIguess 5 років тому +1

    Good stuff man! Recommended you again today :D

  • @de_oScar
    @de_oScar 2 роки тому

    let's use one of the theorems of engineering: sin(x)=x. So now we have an integral from 0 to inf of x/x = 1, and constants are trivial to integrate so it's left as an excercise to readers

  • @KonradGebura
    @KonradGebura 5 років тому +1

    So here you assume sin(u) = e^it
    -Also thanks you have really inspired me over my time here and taught me a lot

  • @owen7185
    @owen7185 2 роки тому

    Excellent video, awesome

  • @avananana
    @avananana 6 років тому +1

    I'll just say that I spent my summer studying complex analysis since I saw this video back in early February and wanted to see if I would understand it later on. And well, no. I still don't understand jack-shit lmao. Good video papa, it's old but gold.

  • @nicholasestrella339
    @nicholasestrella339 5 років тому +1

    How did you know that you had to integrate( e^iz)/z at 3:01? Was there a theorem or something that I missed?

  • @gabrielmello3293
    @gabrielmello3293 6 років тому +43

    4:33
    We can find da wey?

  • @adrishkumar4719
    @adrishkumar4719 3 роки тому

    Yo Papa Flammy help me out here a bit. When you substituted x = - v and changed the limits, the negative sign is still present in the power of the exponential. When I re-substitute -v as x, the exponential has power is ix and not -ix. I did not understand why -iv became -x and not x, since -v is x. If anyone can help me out that would be extremely helpful.
    |e| love your videos boi. That part where we move around the singularity blew my mind. Keep up the good work of the mathematical gods.

  • @Andrei-rp3dz
    @Andrei-rp3dz 6 років тому +1

    At 10:21 when you substitute the x back in, don't the limits of the integral also change and become negative again? Because you left the limits in terms of v when substituting it back in.

    • @xspuipuke
      @xspuipuke 6 років тому

      He didn't substitute x back in. He just changed the name of the variable.

  • @matthewbradley4644
    @matthewbradley4644 5 років тому

    I love you for this

  • @SultanLaxeby
    @SultanLaxeby 6 років тому +21

    Dirischlett-Integral? that guy was French :D
    edit: actually he was german, but still his name was in French

    • @gabor6259
      @gabor6259 6 років тому +1

      If you hate pronouncing stuff in the wrong way then why don't you pronounce phi as a Greek person would do? (fee)

    • @lucasm4299
      @lucasm4299 6 років тому +3

      Gábor Králik
      Here in the US, that is often pronounced as phy or phee.

    • @lucasm4299
      @lucasm4299 6 років тому

      Flammable Maths
      No offense, but the German accent is not helping pronunciation.
      😁

    • @allaincumming6313
      @allaincumming6313 6 років тому +6

      Lucas M His accent is flammy, of course it helps boi

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 6 років тому

      Lucas M Yes, and pronouncing it Phy is incorrect.

  • @WhisDragonBallSuper
    @WhisDragonBallSuper 4 роки тому +1

    to generalize it it's Pi from -inf to inf

  • @Kaiwizz
    @Kaiwizz Рік тому

    I am kinda confused by the -ε to ε part of the integral. You are going counterclockwise on that contour, shouldn't it somehow get an additional negative sign.
    I mean if you avoid the pole and go through the upper half then the original integral is 0. But what if you while closing the ε contour, you go through the lower plane? how does it work then?

  • @wagsman9999
    @wagsman9999 4 роки тому

    That was awesome !

  • @esanman484
    @esanman484 5 років тому +2

    integral of (e^xdx)-1. can we find this?

  • @macmos1
    @macmos1 4 місяці тому

    @14:46 Why aren't able to just take the limit as epsilon goes to zero of integral bounds? In that case since range of the integral is 0, the integral would be 0. Why can't this be done? Obviously the value of the integral is different than what you got, but don't see how that is incorrect.

  • @mattiperkiomaki5009
    @mattiperkiomaki5009 4 роки тому

    Hi! This might be a beginner question, but around 6 minutes you talk about this integrand being analytical, and how it would be possible to put it into a series form, because it's going around the singularity, but then a question rises to me: how about the tight corners in the -R, -epsilon, epsilon and R? Shouldn't differentiation be impossible in the corners because the derivative is undefined there? Or is it that breaking the integrals into parts and summing them up removes this problem?

  • @buzzwalter5484
    @buzzwalter5484 6 років тому

    When doing contour integrals on the complex plane, you mentioned cauchy’s integral therom about the closed contour being analytical therefore yielding a 0. Ultimately this just seems like an extension of fundamental thm of line integrals, but for the complex plane. This whole business seems a lot like green’s thm, but there’s obviously no vector field. What is the analog in this case, or is it just that one can view the integral in just the same way as if it were not a vector field? Hopeful my question is comprehensible, but ask if i'm leaving something out.

  • @phipgorman5677
    @phipgorman5677 4 роки тому

    let -v=x
    so -x=v
    and dv=-dx and dx=-dv
    then you declare that v=x (the same x)
    doesn't this imply by substitution that x=-x
    but:
    if kx = x
    then k=1
    right?
    what is going on here? could x=kx for any k?

  • @manmohankrishna2407
    @manmohankrishna2407 6 років тому +2

    Is the video made deliberately of the length 20:18???

  • @mathssolverpoint6059
    @mathssolverpoint6059 5 років тому +2

    It can become too easy by Laplace's transformation

  • @vangrails
    @vangrails 6 років тому

    What happens if you take a contour integral and you include instead of exclude the z=0 residue? Will that make everything much more complicated? Probably yes but maybe it is fun to do?

  • @duckymomo7935
    @duckymomo7935 6 років тому +2

    a cute boy explaining math: this is great

  • @LamentableLamentation
    @LamentableLamentation 6 років тому +2

    Amazing intro

  • @dartz2234
    @dartz2234 5 років тому

    prof i have a question, i hope u reply as soon as possible cuz i have an exam next week
    how can i proof that an integrale from -pi to +pi of f(t)=dt/(1+sin^2(t)) equals to pi.√2
    i switched sin^2(t) to [1-cos(2t)]/2, then cos(2t) to (z+z^-1)/2 ..etc and by residus theorem i found it equals pi/√2, i dont know what i did wrong, im dealing with (-pi) ti (+pi) like 0 to (2pi) but i see no difference
    sorry for my bad english, im arabian and study's language is french

  • @blackdeath39muffin45
    @blackdeath39muffin45 4 роки тому

    Wait so for the integral from Pi to 0, since the lower value should be down wouldn’t it be better to make it from Pi to 2Pi (Tao), which also allows for an infinite number of values if we keep adding 2Pi for each

  • @3manthing
    @3manthing 4 роки тому

    14:40 was expecting "like you play around with your girlfriend"
    10:02 was expecting " you can call it your mother, i don't care"🤣
    I guess it was to early in the past for you to make your usual jokes, the ones you make in later videos. One more thing is, i think it's easy to notice, that now you've become more relaxed, what i mean is, you use different words, your sentences are more fluent, which in leads to more spicy videos. 🔥

  • @NotJames1
    @NotJames1 6 років тому +1

    That was brilliant!

  • @azmath2059
    @azmath2059 6 років тому

    Brilliant. Thanks for posting

  • @garak55
    @garak55 5 років тому +1

    When you're so deep into math you don't even bother writing out the parametrization of your curve in the complex plane before applying jordan's lemma.
    Note to undergrads watching the video, you should definitely do it if you expect earning points on your complex analysis exam.

    • @slackbabo3858
      @slackbabo3858 4 роки тому

      True it is a little disappointing seeing a math video not explaining every step. It kinda seems like watching someone rush through a homework problem. You can tell he wasn't too into this particular problem.

  • @karabodibakoane3202
    @karabodibakoane3202 3 роки тому

    This guy needs to see a head doctor ASAP.

  • @user-wu8yq1rb9t
    @user-wu8yq1rb9t 2 роки тому

    *Papaaaaaa* ... ?? ... !!
    Where is your beloved Hagoromo Chalk?!! What about your blackboard?!

  • @Whateverbro24
    @Whateverbro24 6 років тому

    Great video keep up the good work

  • @DanaWebb2017
    @DanaWebb2017 6 років тому

    That was pretty, might haft to watch that few more times and polish up on lemmas.

  • @Everth97
    @Everth97 5 років тому

    Hey Flammi boi, i don't understand when do you have to include the residue at infinity and when you do not! Can you enlighten me?

  • @alphalunamare
    @alphalunamare 3 роки тому

    Very Enjoyable:-)

  • @ghaiethalwi2575
    @ghaiethalwi2575 6 років тому +4

    He sounds like ivar from vikings

  • @yarooborkowski5999
    @yarooborkowski5999 5 років тому

    Could You make some more videos about that method of solving integrals? Best regards

  • @raq1205
    @raq1205 4 роки тому

    curious as to where everyone learns this material. I'm learning complex analysis in a class called mathematical physics, because it's for the physics and applied physics majors, and the math majors take complex analysis in the math department. how common is it for non-math majors to take a class like this?

    • @ゾカリクゾ
      @ゾカリクゾ 2 роки тому

      I'm learning this as an electrical engineering student

  • @ЛюблюТебя-т1у
    @ЛюблюТебя-т1у 2 роки тому

    So nice

  • @jamespeter570
    @jamespeter570 6 років тому +1

    13:40 what is this "chaltons lemme"? i understand gausses estimation lemme which works in most probelms but not this one, but have not come across this thm. can someone explain further, also i couldnt find anything online

  • @ozzyfromspace
    @ozzyfromspace 4 роки тому

    "i times phi from 0 to pi" Somebody's speaking my language 😂❤️🎊

  • @AB95_vlogs
    @AB95_vlogs 5 років тому +2

    It would be better using fourier transform to solve integral.

  • @semiawesomatic6064
    @semiawesomatic6064 6 років тому

    At the end, shouldn't it be sin(u)/u, not sin(x)/x. Or of course, sin(e^x). It doesn't really matter, but consistency.

  • @dyer308
    @dyer308 6 років тому +1

    Awesome!!!!!

  • @JakeStevens17
    @JakeStevens17 6 років тому

    Don’t -1=cos(x)+isin(x) and 1=cos(x)+isin(x) both have an infinite number of solutions because of their periodicity? Why did you choose the smallest one? Is it because epsilon needs to be as small as possible by definition??

    • @kikosilva96
      @kikosilva96 5 років тому

      He could've chose any pair of solutions and get the same result (as long as they differ by pi, which corresponds to parametrizing that semicircle by the angle phi)

  • @BrokenStrafe
    @BrokenStrafe 6 років тому +7

    D E F Y

  • @quantumchill5237
    @quantumchill5237 6 років тому +1

    I DEFY

  • @1997benjaminvh
    @1997benjaminvh 6 років тому

    Great video!

  • @beyondmeaning
    @beyondmeaning 4 роки тому

    Memes and math, now we're talking!