@@carsonanderson5084 Its the idea that you have two major institutions (aka systems) that are pushing against each other for the duration of the show - the drug dealers and kingpins (Stringer, Barksdale, Marlo) and the police force and investigators (McNulty, Lester, Daniels). Both systems are in place to deal with the other, but one of the show's conclusions is that it ultimately gets nowhere; just like Herc and Carver with the desk. Bonus points in this scene because it demonstrates how Lester’s character is able to observe both systems working against each other, so he doesn’t have to play within them, just figure out how to beat them from afar, which he eventually tries to do in Season 5. But what he doesn’t realize is that you can only beat the system from within. Otherwise it fights back. Money always wins.
@@carsonanderson5084 In the series, the system (Police, ect) is constantly working against itself, without actually working together cohesively with clear directions. In this case, the literal police officers never once thought to ask Herc whether he wanted to bring the desk out or in, so they were all pushing the desk in all directions, against each other, instead of one side pulling and the other side pushing.
He could have been pushing sideways, from both ends, if he thought that the desk was wedged in and that it also needed sideways force to help unwedge it (or to help with the legs swinging around the doorframe).
I believe a poet said it best when he said: “some mothafuckas are always trying to ice-skate uphill.” My favorite poet Blade the Vampire Hunter said that.
Yea it is, I didn't get the joke but I am assuming the joke is they are pushing against each other because Herc didn't specify where he wanted the desk
Charlie Santos It's too big and it doesn't fit through the door. At first, they all think Herc was trying to get it out; that's why they try and help him.
It could be a metaphor for the whole war on drugs, honestly. With different people not communicating and trying to do different things the entire time with different objectives and a lack of results.
You're probably not still waiting for a reply after all these years, but couldn't resist, because I love this scene. It's the war on drugs, and the Baltimore police departments efforts to combat it in a nutshell. Notice how Herc and Carver are the first in, pure narcos. Start trying to fix the problem without really working out what the problem is. Next Sydnor, who just wants to help, ever the promising police officer, but he can't be effective without the proper guidance. Then McNulty, whose ego makes him think he can sort the problem, but as always doesn't communicate with fellow officers, maybe ego gets in the way of his ability to do the job. Daniels comes in, barks orders, without taking time to get a handle on the facts. But my favorite thing is Lester, watching, and he's the only guy in the room who knows what is actually going on here, but everybody ignores him, when if they paid people like him more attention it would lead to a positive result.
Lol Lester staying quiet while he knows what's happening is the funny part.
Not only he knows. He looks like he has seen it before.
Classic Lester play
Perfect analogy for the underlying point that this show is trying to make.
I think I see what you’re getting at, but I’d love to hear you elaborate on this if you ever see this
@@carsonanderson5084 Its the idea that you have two major institutions (aka systems) that are pushing against each other for the duration of the show - the drug dealers and kingpins (Stringer, Barksdale, Marlo) and the police force and investigators (McNulty, Lester, Daniels). Both systems are in place to deal with the other, but one of the show's conclusions is that it ultimately gets nowhere; just like Herc and Carver with the desk.
Bonus points in this scene because it demonstrates how Lester’s character is able to observe both systems working against each other, so he doesn’t have to play within them, just figure out how to beat them from afar, which he eventually tries to do in Season 5.
But what he doesn’t realize is that you can only beat the system from within. Otherwise it fights back. Money always wins.
@@carsonanderson5084world going one way… people another yo
@@carsonanderson5084 In the series, the system (Police, ect) is constantly working against itself, without actually working together cohesively with clear directions. In this case, the literal police officers never once thought to ask Herc whether he wanted to bring the desk out or in, so they were all pushing the desk in all directions, against each other, instead of one side pulling and the other side pushing.
@@carsonanderson5084ask the question to call out his bs but if he makes a point you didn’t understand then it’s a win/win.. very cLeVer
I love how this is a metaphor for the entire show in one of the first episodes.
Lol I love when Daniels takes his jacket off to help. I know this is played for comedy, but Lance Reddick just looks bad ass when he does that.
God I miss Lance Reddick.
How did Sydnor not notice what's going on? He was on both sides!
he could be pulling while others are pushing and it would still go nowhere. i mean he should notice probably but its possible.
He could have been pushing sideways, from both ends, if he thought that the desk was wedged in and that it also needed sideways force to help unwedge it (or to help with the legs swinging around the doorframe).
@@frakkingyeah but he would definitely still see both sides pushing and no one pulling.
That is the genius of this show right there!
RIP Lance
So as they were pushing to get in the others we’re pushing to get it out, right? Lol
yep😂
o i love this scene lol. just finished watchin this 4 times now
I believe a poet said it best when he said: “some mothafuckas are always trying to ice-skate uphill.” My favorite poet Blade the Vampire Hunter said that.
So 3 were pulling it out but herc matched all 3s power on his own ?
PROUD_BRIT no one was pulling they were all pushing.
They were pushing, all of them.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@raulbetancourt5795then Herc was a dumbass
How come lester always sanding smalls furnitures and never get dirty?
This show is genius
Uploaded 11 years ago, wow. And still cracks me up 🤣
How did he get it that far with the feet still on it ?
He pivoted
I’ll admit, halfway decent allegory.
It took me a min to catch it also even though looking at both sides clearly.
How is did syndor not realise, he was on both sides
Can someone explain, why getting the Desk in is bad ?
Huh? Is this a serious question??
Yea it is, I didn't get the joke but I am assuming the joke is they are pushing against each other because Herc didn't specify where he wanted the desk
Charlie Santos
It's too big and it doesn't fit through the door.
At first, they all think Herc was trying to get it out; that's why they try and help him.
Each side is pushing towards the other.
Actually, it's a legit question. Why is it more natural to assume he's trying to get it out?
I'm sure this is a metaphor for something, but idk what.
It could be a metaphor for the whole war on drugs, honestly. With different people not communicating and trying to do different things the entire time with different objectives and a lack of results.
You're probably not still waiting for a reply after all these years, but couldn't resist, because I love this scene. It's the war on drugs, and the Baltimore police departments efforts to combat it in a nutshell. Notice how Herc and Carver are the first in, pure narcos. Start trying to fix the problem without really working out what the problem is. Next Sydnor, who just wants to help, ever the promising police officer, but he can't be effective without the proper guidance. Then McNulty, whose ego makes him think he can sort the problem, but as always doesn't communicate with fellow officers, maybe ego gets in the way of his ability to do the job. Daniels comes in, barks orders, without taking time to get a handle on the facts. But my favorite thing is Lester, watching, and he's the only guy in the room who knows what is actually going on here, but everybody ignores him, when if they paid people like him more attention it would lead to a positive result.
good analysis
It was a metaphor for their team at the time, going in different directions and goals
Its a metaphor that poor communication leads to poor results