RTÉ documentary series exploring the craft traditions of Ireland. hands.ie/ Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Ltd., Carrickmacross, Co. Monaghan. Narrated by Diarmaid Ó Muirithe. Filmed in 1983.
This video is one of the reasons I love UA-cam and the net. Love learning things like this. I'm older, we had to drag our butts to the library to get info like this and chances of seeing a video like this were few and far between. I honestly think some of the pieces should be glazed and displayed, like the junction box.😁
This stuff requires training, skill, long apprenticeships and an eye to detail; in short, true craftsmen. I, like One of Billions, am older and would have never had the opportunity to see this w/o UA-cam. Absolutely great stuff; thanks you @snadhghus!
@@sampsonsunny6298 thanks for adding such a well thought out and eloquent addition to the conversation. Comments like yours are true evidence that western civilization is on the upswing and true enlightenment is just around the corner. Applause for Sunny!
Now we waste our oil and make all the pipes from plastic, the good thing about clay pipes they come from the earth and will go back to the earth, unlike plastic.
while i was underpinning a house in north london, i remember digging into a land drain clay pipe about 2 meters down and i split it, and a trickle of water was coming out of the pipe, this irsh voice from above me at the edge of the hole said "be jesus you are going to regret that" with a little chuckle, he was right a bucket of water every 7 mins poured in, i still had 2 meters to dig down.
Makes you wonder if the automation of production is what really kills job satisfaction in the modern factory. These guys make the same things everyday, but each piece takes thought and skill, and in the end you end up with something that you uniquely produced. You don't get that hitting a button on a machine all day.
indeed you don't, but your boss gets higher dividend payments due to needing less workers, welcome to capitalism, it doesn't work for most, most work for few. As for the business above, unfortunately ended trading in 2008.
The series of 37 or 38 programmes was made by Rte. The quality of the narration is second to none. Rte do not seem to have many presenters today who could deliver a similar commentary. We are confronted by hand flapping presenters who have a personal image to project. Not so sure about dedidley outbreak of music intermittently during the program but the quality of historic footage and commentary compensates for that
Old Ireland -men had suits -smoked pipes at work -went to church on sundays New Ireland -juul/vape -spend weekends eating kebabs after grinding a slag at club -claim they are atheist or agnostic -lick British feet
A simply fantastic documentary again. Thank you so much for uploading and sharing. By the way: I live nearby the Westerwald in Germany where the most quarries with white clay are. It is called the white gold of the western forrest. For hundreds of years there had been an enormous number of families and companies working with clay. For example making pottery, tiles, tobacco pipes, pipes, plant pots and all kinds of products. Some do even today. It is called " Kannenbäckerland" which means something like potbakercountry. It was/is famous especially for its salt glazed products. Tobacco pipe making for example: ua-cam.com/video/lUEoSioqGzM/v-deo.html
I bet if a German couple had traveled around Germany in the 70s they could have made an equally fascinating series like this one. Anywhere in the world, as these traditions are as rich and varied as people are.
Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Limited was set up on Thursday the 12th of October 1950. Their current partial address is Dublin, and the company status is Dissolved with the company closing on Friday the 31st of October 2008.
Having worked with pvc pipe and installing underground services, I have a special admiration for this process. Now I'd like to see how these are installed.
Back when stuff was built to last. They'll be digging up these perfectly preserved clay pipes 10,000 years from now, next to the dust piles of pipes made from inferior materials.
@@aidy6000 I don't know. Whenever it comes to these polymer chains, I think that it's just one evolutionary step away from getting consumed by bacteria...
@@aidy6000 If I recall right, the life expectancy for HDPE pipes is 50-100 years. In comparison there are some places that still use original Roman clay pipes. I'm not advocating that we should go back to clay, because there are a lot of very good reasons for HDPE, but building things to last effectively forever is not one of them.
Like the clay roof tiles in Miami that still had the hair marks from being shaped over the thighs of Cuban women, these men demonstrate the value of skilled labor in the product they make. Makes me proud to be Irish.
This video is one of the reasons I love UA-cam and the net. Love learning things like this. I'm older, we had to drag our butts to the library to get info like this and chances of seeing a video like this were few and far between. I honestly think some of the pieces should be glazed and displayed, like the junction box.
I wish I could work here. Also Pat the builder of those boxes around the 13:00 minute mark, he should have signature every one of his pieces with the date, works of art
I have watched about a dozen of these (love them!) and I notice there does not appear to be any tradition of special workclothes. From flax growers pitching bundles, stone cutters or clayworkers: they all wear button down shirts, sweater vests, wool blazers. I am sure not Sunday best, but no jeans, Carharts or what I would think of as an uniform. I wonder why they did not keep the tradition of linen work shirts/tunics and less tailored pants for movement that they had in earlier centuries?
Thank you, I love to know how things are made, especially in the traditional way Ceramics was a huge leap forward in our history, I would love to have work in this factory. I would like to buy around 35 of these pipes for making terracotta wine racks. I do hope that this factory is still in full production. My respect has increased, for this skill.
@@mwnciboo Not every tradesman was an alcoholic. You did have a drink on pay day and Sunday morning/dinnertime. Drinking and heavy smoking was part of the culture then.
This doc was made in 83, found this listing on the web; Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Limited was founded on 12 Oct 1950 and has its registered office in Dublin 2. The organisation's status is listed as "Dissolved". It had 3 directors at the time it closed.
Like all traditional factories go and went. First the foreign money pours in, then the "efficiency"-managers come in and automatize everything they can and soon they decide that the whole factory should be shut down and production moved to China.
Great video. I found it interesting that the workforce was super robust--dozens of guys helping out with every task--but also skewed pretty old. Lots of old-timers with 30 years experience and seemingly not many fresh bodies replacing them. And everyone was wearing suit coats.
When I started in the seventies the jacket and a cap with a good pair of boots or shoes was all you had or needed . A good suit jacket had plenty of pockets and kept the wind and rain off .
Patrick Ancona Ask yourself if you could afford a woollen three-piece suit to work in if you were a coal stoker in a factory today, and you’ll see what has changed.
If you watch any black and white movie, you'll see that everyone in Europe and America, and a good bit of the world wore a coat and tie and hat, all the time, then starting in the 60s the hippies started to break the mold.
I know they are speaking English, but I cann'ae understand a word of it! I have no idea how this ended up in my Recommended list, but I'm glad I watched it. Learned a few things.
I could almost read the date on the film's ending as, I think, 1989. Were they making clay pipes at that time, or was this video shot before then, do you think?
Ah, I have waited for the day that that I could pass along the family fork to my wee lad to carry on the family tradition. But dad, I do not want to work in the ….
The pipes being manufactured in the clips are used for "land drainage" laid end to end, sewage so no joints are needed, mainly for agricultural applications.
The junction is just so impressive. Their art in crafting is second to none, I hope these men can pass their experience down. For generations to come. I am just so amazed at the HANDS work...
Dont worry, they didnt. Tradies have nobody to blame but themselves, for decades it was all a secret club and nobody shared any info. Now they all cry as their last tradesmen die off and nobody knows the work amymore. Seen it dozens of times.
lost skill sets and a lost time, my time, i grew up during these times and when i watch these i feel like a thousand years has passed. i miss those times.
Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Limited was set up on Thursday the 12th of October 1950. Their current partial address is Dublin, and the company status is Dissolved with the company closing on Friday the 31st of October 2008.
everyone of those old fellows could have been my grandpa or uncle or whatever... strange how rust belters all come from Ireland and Scotland and Germany..
Factories of this time existed to fulfill a need. To solve a problem first and make a profit second. Today, it is the other way around. I see most companies only exist because they can and almost seem to create problems so they can solve them. How times have changed...
All tradesmen dresses like that. My own father always wore a tie with starch collar fresh everyday. Thats what you call a tradesman. All tradesmen believed in cleanliness when working. It was part of their training. You never bring dirt to work and you never bring it home. I have worked with clay pipes doing alteration cutting holes in live sewer pipe. The craft of these men is brilliant to watch, years of experience and knowledge. Brings back happy memories. Safety was always part of their work ethics and common sense. To many idiots with the wrong training now. That's why to many accidents happen. Health and safety my arse.
And here a year later. I appreciate the slow pace, they moved deliberately, and seemed utterly relaxed and focused on doing a excellent job on each piece. This is community, stable jobs like these helped keep society stable and the trust these men have with each other...it's wonderful. Modern OSHA rules are needed, in the more discordant and hurried workplace of distracted untrained workers we see today. Also to stop profit seeking business owners from causing accidents by creating unsafe conditions on purpose. ( Because it's cheaper that way) A universal set of rules are needed in highly industrialized manufacturing. Not all rules are good, they design them to fit all, even the dumbest among us. For a skilled worker, I think good practices and focus will serve better then excessive layers of safety equipment.
Beautiful wonderful work...I'm an American irish but my ancestors come from Ulster province....these videos connect me to them as I've always wanted tio go to Ireland....I'm 64 years of age and I've spent my entire life learning about my roots...
Buy Euros at the bureau de change and then when you have enough save your money for a ticket and then you can go back to the old home if your family but it might take a while
Cool documentary! Sad to check out the company and find it closed after BIG Euro/Far East Coporate shuffled out the good work and walked away. Pretty typical any more. When this was filmed in '83, I had sold out my part of a custom cabinet shop to finish my degree. This was going on here in the States! The shop went bust the next year. We could not complete against CHEEP labor(illegal) and cut rate materials. (Our shop was along the US/Mexico Border..get the idea!!!) It's a great World!!!!
sadly PVC has come along and probably put this family and others out of business....and then PVC gets into the landfills etc... when clay solves ths problem and many others and gives your countrymen work! 😞
What used to be the Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Ltd is now owned by some multinational billion dollar corporation called the Braas Monier Building Group. I wonder if they are giving back to the small town of Monaghan like Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Ltd. did or if they are just extracting wealth while the people get nothing in return.
Very interesting. `1983? I hope theses guys all made it to retirement before they closed the place. Who knows, maybe it will reopen after the apocalypse. I do envy the comraderie.
I’m glad the moderator didn’t speak w/ the thick Irish brogue the workers used at @ 19:00. As an English speaking American, I barely understood a word.
With the invention of pvc and abs pipe I'm pretty sure it ended this industry. I'm a retired American plumber and ceramic clay pot thrower angelophile so I have a deep appreciation for this production
My thoughts exactly. Also, with the hysteria about climate change, the burning of coal to fire the kilns ... gasp!!! The flip side of PVC and ABS is that it is made from oil. Gasp again!!! Oh well, the climate alarmists will be content to do without sewer lines in their new caves.
You mean Anglophile. You should know then that this is Ireland, not England, which is quite an insult, considering our mutual history. Oh BTW, kudos for being a clay pot thrower. Skills are definitely needed. I'm a sculptor and don't get near enough time for the beauty of ceramics.
How do they use them? Specifically how do you connect them in a way that they don't weak at the connection what kind of gasket or sealant is used do they just cram more clay into the gaps between the beveled peace and the one that slides in. Surely that's not the way wouldn't it be Is fire hardened or anything. Tar maybe?
I couldn't understand most of their words nor any of their conversation. Also how do you use the short pipes that lack flares or any conical shape? Are they joined with slugs of clay or just pressed end to end?
watching these, I keep thinking if we had politician sitting in on these jobs for a week, making Bull Shit law's without experiencing making these shit pipes
man, that pipe potter put more love into that pipe junction than my entire company has for their customers since its foundation.
And more care than I did in the 18 years of my first marriage! 😛
dude was romancing the pipe, thats for sure
Paddy drives off with his unsecured load of clay pipes!
Probably need a new boss or stop watching 40 year old videos. Also transgender toilets are a must. Incase you are not a person.
@@spaaggetii Oh you get to define who and who isnt a person? Given up on doing that for races? or are you still that backward and biased and ignorant?
This video is one of the reasons I love UA-cam and the net. Love learning things like this. I'm older, we had to drag our butts to the library to get info like this and chances of seeing a video like this were few and far between. I honestly think some of the pieces should be glazed and displayed, like the junction box.😁
Right! I throughly enjoyed watching this craftsman create that junction box. Totally neat
This stuff requires training, skill, long apprenticeships and an eye to detail; in short, true craftsmen. I, like One of Billions, am older and would have never had the opportunity to see this w/o UA-cam. Absolutely great stuff; thanks you @snadhghus!
Bet, they close down this factory today. Zero emissions, right.
@@sampsonsunny6298 thanks for adding such a well thought out and eloquent addition to the conversation.
Comments like yours are true evidence that western civilization is on the upswing and true enlightenment is just around the corner. Applause for Sunny!
All that work. How much a jb cost?
Now we waste our oil and make all the pipes from plastic, the good thing about clay pipes they come from the earth and will go back to the earth, unlike plastic.
while i was underpinning a house in north london, i remember digging into a land drain clay pipe about 2 meters down and i split it, and a trickle of water was coming out of the pipe, this irsh voice from above me at the edge of the hole said "be jesus you are going to regret that" with a little chuckle, he was right a bucket of water every 7 mins poured in, i still had 2 meters to dig down.
Makes you wonder if the automation of production is what really kills job satisfaction in the modern factory. These guys make the same things everyday, but each piece takes thought and skill, and in the end you end up with something that you uniquely produced. You don't get that hitting a button on a machine all day.
indeed you don't, but your boss gets higher dividend payments due to needing less workers, welcome to capitalism, it doesn't work for most, most work for few.
As for the business above, unfortunately ended trading in 2008.
@@Nine-Signs I wonder if the owners moved into a new business.
Thank you for uploading these wonderful documentaries. I watched these as a teenager when they were first broadcast.
The series of 37 or 38 programmes was made by Rte. The quality of the narration is second to none. Rte do not seem to have many presenters today who could deliver a similar commentary. We are confronted by hand flapping presenters who have a personal image to project. Not so sure about dedidley outbreak of music intermittently during the program but the quality of historic footage and commentary compensates for that
Sadly everything is Americanised
@@majorgenerall Not here it isn't. Most look at most Americans as being a bit on the slow side.
Old Ireland
-men had suits
-smoked pipes at work
-went to church on sundays
New Ireland
-juul/vape
-spend weekends eating kebabs after grinding a slag at club
-claim they are atheist or agnostic
-lick British feet
A simply fantastic documentary again. Thank you so much for uploading and sharing.
By the way: I live nearby the Westerwald in Germany where the most quarries with white clay are. It is called the white gold of the western forrest. For hundreds of years there had been an enormous number of families and companies working with clay. For example making pottery, tiles, tobacco pipes, pipes, plant pots and all kinds of products. Some do even today. It is called " Kannenbäckerland" which means something like potbakercountry. It was/is famous especially for its salt glazed products.
Tobacco pipe making for example:
ua-cam.com/video/lUEoSioqGzM/v-deo.html
What is this white clay s mineralology
I bet if a German couple had traveled around Germany in the 70s they could have made an equally fascinating series like this one. Anywhere in the world, as these traditions are as rich and varied as people are.
Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Limited was set up on Thursday the 12th of October 1950. Their current partial address is Dublin, and the company status is Dissolved with the company closing on Friday the 31st of October 2008.
do you know the address of the original factory site?
They are heavy. These guys make them seem lite. I have handled them.
Thanks for holding on to this old documentary and posting it for our enjoyment its nice to see old industrial tradesman history.
I’ve had to remove some of these that were placed in the ground in 1911. They’re still brand new.
Tommy's wife " what happened at work today love?" Tommy " I got my 190th new shovel."
Having worked with pvc pipe and installing underground services, I have a special admiration for this process. Now I'd like to see how these are installed.
Back when stuff was built to last. They'll be digging up these perfectly preserved clay pipes 10,000 years from now, next to the dust piles of pipes made from inferior materials.
think the high density polymer pipes you get now would last longer 😅
@@aidy6000 I don't know. Whenever it comes to these polymer chains, I think that it's just one evolutionary step away from getting consumed by bacteria...
@@aidy6000 If I recall right, the life expectancy for HDPE pipes is 50-100 years. In comparison there are some places that still use original Roman clay pipes. I'm not advocating that we should go back to clay, because there are a lot of very good reasons for HDPE, but building things to last effectively forever is not one of them.
They dress nicer at work than most Americans do going out.... including me lol
Like the clay roof tiles in Miami that still had the hair marks from being shaped over the thighs of Cuban women, these men demonstrate the value of skilled labor in the product they make. Makes me proud to be Irish.
Whoa I didn’t know that about the tile roofs in Miami that’s cool. I’m born and raised in Phoenix AZ we also do tile roofs
This video is one of the reasons I love UA-cam and the net. Love learning things like this. I'm older, we had to drag our butts to the library to get info like this and chances of seeing a video like this were few and far between. I honestly think some of the pieces should be glazed and displayed, like the junction box.
Boyo How i love this! So much respect for the Irish workingman
bret douglas if only the same could be said for welshman as they practically built the british empire and fought its wars
not that thats great it was at the expense of their lives
19:32 I could listen to these guys talk all day and still not understand what’s going on 😂 but I like it.
Я сапожник. Уважаю работу руками!
Those coal stokers are getting ALL the cancer!!!
Real glad I live in the time of health and safety, even if it does get annoying.
yah their grandchildren are much better off staying away from that nasty coal and doing drugs safely at home
I wish I could work here. Also Pat the builder of those boxes around the 13:00 minute mark, he should have signature every one of his pieces with the date, works of art
These videos a wonderful, I'm glad I clicked on it.
Better than those metallic pipes and all the nastiness they add to the water.
To bad this is a lost art.
I've replaced clay pipes that were in the ground for up to a 100 years and it was as good as the day it went in.
Why only old men works here?
I have watched about a dozen of these (love them!) and I notice there does not appear to be any tradition of special workclothes. From flax growers pitching bundles, stone cutters or clayworkers: they all wear button down shirts, sweater vests, wool blazers. I am sure not Sunday best, but no jeans, Carharts or what I would think of as an uniform. I wonder why they did not keep the tradition of linen work shirts/tunics and less tailored pants for movement that they had in earlier centuries?
i was thinking about the same.
I bet a lot of it is clothing availability.
It’s simple! That’s literally all they had.
Thank you, I love to know how things are made, especially in the traditional way
Ceramics was a huge leap forward in our history, I would love to have work in this factory.
I would like to buy around 35 of these pipes for making terracotta wine racks.
I do hope that this factory is still in full production.
My respect has increased, for this skill.
Not sure about the factory but a quick search online shows the business went under in 2008 or so.
This was back when men were men and women were proud of it.
And a good Percentage of them were full blown alcoholics. Not everything was so rosie, but I'll admit they were tough.
@@mwnciboo
Not every tradesman was an alcoholic. You did have a drink on pay day and Sunday morning/dinnertime. Drinking and heavy smoking was part of the culture then.
What a gem of a film of old traditions in making clay pipes.
This doc was made in 83, found this listing on the web;
Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Limited was founded on 12 Oct 1950 and has its registered office in Dublin 2. The organisation's status is listed as "Dissolved". It had 3 directors at the time it closed.
Like all traditional factories go and went.
First the foreign money pours in, then the "efficiency"-managers come in and automatize everything they can and soon they decide that the whole factory should be shut down and production moved to China.
Yeah pipework like this is all plastic now - except really, really big stuff which is concrete
@@DaBoomz13 Usually because people like you moan about "how dear" everything has become.
@@mike8631
Nowadays that kind of people tend to not care.
"Everything is made in China, so what?"
You can tell they were poor cause they didnt even have any work clothes and had to work in old business suits.
Great video. I found it interesting that the workforce was super robust--dozens of guys helping out with every task--but also skewed pretty old. Lots of old-timers with 30 years experience and seemingly not many fresh bodies replacing them. And everyone was wearing suit coats.
When I started in the seventies the jacket and a cap with a good pair of boots or shoes was all you had or needed . A good suit jacket had plenty of pockets and kept the wind and rain off .
I notice that also! I would of been wearing coveralls but then again don’t think they hard the stores we have today!
Hands was a brilliant tv series, love watching them and not a hi vis or helmet in sight.
I'm amazed at the age of the workers and how nice they dressed to go to work.
it might be that they overdressed for the camera but idk.
They had no other clothes. These were once their best. No workwear
Patrick Ancona Ask yourself if you could afford a woollen three-piece suit to work in if you were a coal stoker in a factory today, and you’ll see what has changed.
Slow fashion. Patches and darning wool.
If you watch any black and white movie, you'll see that everyone in Europe and America, and a good bit of the world wore a coat and tie and hat, all the time, then starting in the 60s the hippies started to break the mold.
that Irish jabber in front of the kiln was the most essential part of the process
Completely Amazing.
No idea how this ended up as a UA-cam recommendation… but I watched it.
Hand/eye skills to amaze the gods of the fields. And me.
I know they are speaking English, but I cann'ae understand a word of it!
I have no idea how this ended up in my Recommended list, but I'm glad I watched it. Learned a few things.
I believe that they are discussing "Uylsses" by James Joyce. Asking the same old question "what the heck is it about?"
And they took pride in it.
My father was from Carrickmacross and I have these on video. He knew some of the workers too. Great programme
I could almost read the date on the film's ending as, I think, 1989. Were they making clay pipes at that time, or was this video shot before then, do you think?
@@brianhaygood183shot in 1982/3
Why is there only 239 beans in a pot of an Irish bean soup?
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Because then if you add one more bean
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Too farty
Ah, I have waited for the day that that I could pass along the family fork to my wee lad to carry on the family tradition. But dad, I do not want to work in the ….
Watching Pat McGivney cut that junction box... my god that man must see dimensions I can't even begin to understand.
The pipes being manufactured in the clips are used for "land drainage" laid end to end, sewage so no joints are needed, mainly for agricultural applications.
Imagine working a manual labor job in a suit and jacket. 😅
Surprised no one had a tie on 🤣🤣
смотрю ...какая интересная серая глина... а потом понимаю что фильм чернобелый
Would love to get my hands on one of those transport carts. Those motors look beastly.
Single cylinder diesel Lister ,also common on cement mixers air cooled will run all day
Real working men doing a real job, those were the days I remember. Not a yellow coat or stupid hat in sight. How times have changed!!
Is this still around? Or are they importing from China now?
It shut down in 2006.
A wonderful film. Thank you!
The junction is just so impressive. Their art in crafting is second to none, I hope these men can pass their experience down. For generations to come. I am just so amazed at the HANDS work...
Dude nobody uses clay anymore for sewage works. There is nothing to pass on.
They'll be plenty of those in Ireland in use for a few decades yet.
@@ThisIsGoogle India does
Dont worry, they didnt.
Tradies have nobody to blame but themselves, for decades it was all a secret club and nobody shared any info.
Now they all cry as their last tradesmen die off and nobody knows the work amymore. Seen it dozens of times.
A time gone...
18:46 can anyone translate this into English for me?
Waste material = zero
lost skill sets and a lost time, my time, i grew up during these times and when i watch these i feel like a thousand years has passed. i miss those times.
I just realised these guys do all their labor in suits. Quite deferent from today.
Beautiful! I'd pay extra for subtitles XD
Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Limited was set up on Thursday the 12th of October 1950. Their current partial address is Dublin, and the company status is Dissolved with the company closing on Friday the 31st of October 2008.
A plain and simple thank you. Love the series.
everyone of those old fellows could have been my grandpa or uncle or whatever... strange how rust belters all come from Ireland and Scotland and Germany..
It looks like they went out of business in 2008 :(
It's amaizing that this pipe can still work somewhere.
It'd be interesting to see how these pipes are manufactured now.
My great grandad......Seamus Armstrong.....invented the armstrong junction.
thank you. Love the series
Gotta love the chap causally smoking a pipe while working harder than most of us do today.
Factories of this time existed to fulfill a need. To solve a problem first and make a profit second. Today, it is the other way around. I see most companies only exist because they can and almost seem to create problems so they can solve them. How times have changed...
Sentimentality isn't what it used to be.
And things have never been so much like this as they are right now.
30 years of experience shoveling clay
Michael meagan should have put the soft clay between the 2 surfaces, this was an easy job for me at 20 years old
All tradesmen dresses like that. My own father always wore a tie with starch collar fresh everyday. Thats what you call a tradesman. All tradesmen believed in cleanliness when working. It was part of their training. You never bring dirt to work and you never bring it home.
I have worked with clay pipes doing alteration cutting holes in live sewer pipe.
The craft of these men is brilliant to watch, years of experience and knowledge. Brings back happy memories. Safety was always part of their work ethics and common sense. To many idiots with the wrong training now. That's why to many accidents happen.
Health and safety my arse.
i disagree
And here a year later.
I appreciate the slow pace, they moved deliberately, and seemed utterly relaxed and focused on doing a excellent job on each piece. This is community, stable jobs like these helped keep society stable and the trust these men have with each other...it's wonderful.
Modern OSHA rules are needed, in the more discordant and hurried workplace of distracted untrained workers we see today. Also to stop profit seeking business owners from causing accidents by creating unsafe conditions on purpose. ( Because it's cheaper that way)
A universal set of rules are needed in highly industrialized manufacturing. Not all rules are good, they design them to fit all, even the dumbest among us. For a skilled worker, I think good practices and focus will serve better then excessive layers of safety equipment.
Excellent craftmanship, every piece like a precision work of art.
OH DANNY BOY the Pipes the PIPES are caaaaaling
Beautiful wonderful work...I'm an American irish but my ancestors come from Ulster province....these videos connect me to them as I've always wanted tio go to Ireland....I'm 64 years of age and I've spent my entire life learning about my roots...
Buy Euros at the bureau de change and then when you have enough save your money for a ticket and then you can go back to the old home if your family but it might take a while
You're a good one
A work of ART!
Cool documentary! Sad to check out the company and find it closed after BIG Euro/Far East Coporate shuffled out the good work and walked away. Pretty typical any more.
When this was filmed in '83, I had sold out my part of a custom cabinet shop to finish my degree. This was going on here in the States! The shop went bust the next year. We could not complete against CHEEP labor(illegal) and cut rate materials. (Our shop was along the US/Mexico Border..get the idea!!!)
It's a great World!!!!
sadly PVC has come along and probably put this family and others out of business....and then PVC gets into the landfills etc... when clay solves ths problem and many others and gives your countrymen work! 😞
What used to be the Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Ltd is now owned by some multinational billion dollar corporation called the Braas Monier Building Group. I wonder if they are giving back to the small town of Monaghan like Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Ltd. did or if they are just extracting wealth while the people get nothing in return.
18:47 Are they speaking English ? Never Mind,... I understand they are speaking "Modern" Irish
Very interesting. `1983? I hope theses guys all made it to retirement before they closed the place.
Who knows, maybe it will reopen after the apocalypse.
I do envy the comraderie.
I’m glad the moderator didn’t speak w/ the thick Irish brogue the workers used at @ 19:00. As an English speaking American, I barely understood a word.
With the invention of pvc and abs pipe I'm pretty sure it ended this industry. I'm a retired American plumber and ceramic clay pot thrower angelophile so I have a deep appreciation for this production
My thoughts exactly. Also, with the hysteria about climate change, the burning of coal to fire the kilns ... gasp!!! The flip side of PVC and ABS is that it is made from oil. Gasp again!!! Oh well, the climate alarmists will be content to do without sewer lines in their new caves.
They shut down in 2007, so probably.
You mean Anglophile. You should know then that this is Ireland, not England, which is quite an insult, considering our mutual history. Oh BTW, kudos for being a clay pot thrower. Skills are definitely needed. I'm a sculptor and don't get near enough time for the beauty of ceramics.
Give it time & a few trillion particles of microplastics
When PPE was an old jacket, flat cap and hob nail boots.
Good men work of art . Give them lads a large wage rise 👍🏻
Looking this company up, they closed in 2008.
There is a practically identical pipeworks at Elland, West Yorkshire - but I think they import their products from China.
I think Naylors is still going, with UK production at Denby Dale
Unfortunately, it appears that the company was dissolved in 2008.
What a pain the ass. Dig a hole on occassion. Fallow half a garden. Wool is fucking expensive; make more of that.
10:32 He probably cut the cake at his wedding with that laser-like hand-eye coordination.
14.41..after all that cool skill he gos and scrawls a rough No 12 on it with a blunt snapped of off chopstick
I do feel a lack of both female workforce as well as diversity? can anyone explain ?
Women were doing womanly duties and diversity was still a unknown word. 🇬🇧👍
@@andrewdaley3081 fuck yeah!
When you’re at work you’re supposed to be thinking about working, if you’re thinking about women and diversity there’s the door
How do they use them? Specifically how do you connect them in a way that they don't weak at the connection what kind of gasket or sealant is used do they just cram more clay into the gaps between the beveled peace and the one that slides in. Surely that's not the way wouldn't it be Is fire hardened or anything.
Tar maybe?
and this is why the company folded in 2008 just can compete with plastic extrusion.
I couldn't understand most of their words nor any of their conversation. Also how do you use the short pipes that lack flares or any conical shape? Are they joined with slugs of clay or just pressed end to end?
watching these, I keep thinking if we had politician sitting in on these jobs for a week,
making Bull Shit law's without experiencing making these shit pipes