Things Got Ugly On the Pool Deck On Our Last Cruise
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- We talk through an incident that occurred on ROYAL Caribbean’s Grandeur of the Seas this pas week. What happens when a cruiser gets TOO drunk while on a cruise ship? Is Royal Caribbean doing the right thing by offering unlimited drinks in their drink package? We compare Royal Caribbean to Carnival Cruise brands such as Carnival Cruise Line, Princess Cruises, Holland America Line, and Cunard in this latest JJ Cruise story from the sea. This is the latest cruise news in tandem across the cruise industry where all cruise lines are making cruise cutbacks for cruise passengers onboard cruise ships during 2024 we ask the question- should the cruise lines change their policy for offering drink packages onboard these cruise ships?! What do cruise ships do with passengers who are not aware of their surroundings while at sea? How do Cruise Ship Crew handle these naive cruise passengers? Are cruise ship passengers okay with cruise lines going to unique cruise ports and experiencing local cultures? We talk through verified experiences of Travelers getting too drunk and this could happen to you when vacationing r onboard Cruise Ships including the worlds largest cruise ship Icon of the Seas or soon to be Star of the Seas 2025, and even the worlds smallest cruise ships. This could happen on any Caribbean vacation but unlikely to happen onboard many cruise ships whether on the Worlds Biggest Cruise Ship Class; or, the Smallest Cruise Ship Class and every Cruise Ship in between. What are your thoughts on this story and the unlimited drink packages being offered on cruise ships cruising around the Caribbean on their Caribbean Vacation 2024?
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Limiting to 15 would not help that situation. She probably had far less than that. Three drinks in a short time would put me in that condition. The big difference is that my husband isn’t a thoughtless jerk. That, and I don’t feel a need to pound drinks down like a college kid. It’s called being a grown up.
agreed except I know some women who could drink 15 and then say lets get more!
Honestly, the man's behavior was downright creepy. I hear about a guy trying to get a girl to drink more than she wants to and my immediate thought is that he's trying to get her too drunk to resist later.
We saw something very similar to this on NCL a couple of years ago. The difference was that the servers kept serving this extremely intoxicated lady (no sig other involved). She too, was taken to her room in a wheelchair. It was cringe, because all of us at the small pool were just waiting for her to vomit.
Out of the many cruises you have been on have you seen someone get this drunk? This boils down to personal responsibility - not the limits of the drink package.
Do you drink more than 15? If so, see a doctor. Immediately.
I usually drink three alcohol drinks per day. The rest of my 15 comes from espresso, soda, bottle water, etc.
Barbara I have to call BS on your comment because water coffee etc does not affect the 15 alcoholic drinks allowed. They are just a perk of the drink package.
I am fine with the drink limits. Intoxicated guests can sometimes ruin a cruise for more than just themselves.
I am not a fan of carnival's drink package but I agree with Carnival and this is a rule they got right. Unfortunately, they have a bad enough rap as a "booze cruise" line. RCCL probably doesn't have a limit just to one-up carnival.
First, you are assuming it was from the alcohol, 2nd Carnival only allows you 15 drinks period within a 24 hr and will not allow you to purchase any thing after that. Last year on Carnival a gentleman fell and burst his head in the club and you could tell he was drunk. So 15 to unlimited you just got to hope someone cares enough for you to tell you.
I'm glad I stopped drinking. Just watch COPS and see how many people out there who 'only had 2 drinks/beers'.
I have to say that its great you talked about this. I know people who think a drink limit is a challenge, and this story represents why there are limits. I have to agree with Carnival and having limits. If the spouse wasn't her spouse, could this have led to something worse?
So much to say but bottom line no. RC should keep it the way it is.
There is no “right thing” here. One cruise offers a limited drink opportunity. One cruise offers an unlimited drink opportunity. Consumers have a choice. This is not the issue here. This couple was not able to drink responsibly, and it has nothing to do with a drink limit.
Excellent!
There is not a “a choice”, except by going to a different brand of cruise line.
Wrong, your on a cruise with others, and it has nothing to do with choice, its RESPONSIBILITY!
No one needs more than 15 drinks n a day, no one!
And I drink, so I'm not coming from a non drinker bias!
BTW how many bars over the years have been sued for over serving, and the bars ended up closing down, RCL is taking a big chance by letting people go to far!
@@bobbear4437 Disagree, I did 39 in a day my last cruise. That was from about 11am to 3am and I was totally fine. Everyone is different and some drinks are more potent than others.
To me, forcing the wife to drink when she was three sheets to the wind and putting her in the pool sounds nefarious to me. Was he trying to injure her and then set the cruise line up for legal action for over serving her? Taking her back to her room instead of the infirmary could have still helped him if he had more alcohol in his room. It used to be that some of the basic unlimited packages drinks, save wine, were made with lower proof whiskey. I think since folks caught on, that has changed and no matter how low the proof is, if you shove enough down your throat, it can get even drunker than if it was full proof. But cruise staff is afraid to confront people for all kinds of offenses, from aggressive behavior to chair hogging to cutting them off. Maybe its time to expand security forces to do rounds in problematic areas more?
Most of us would be comatose after 15 drinks. Scary that her partner didn’t help keep her in a safe mental state.
Her partner? I thought they were married? Was it just business associates?
They count sodas and waters.
@@mrrichards6007 We don't know if they are married, dating, hooking up, etc. The word "partner" is used to indicate an unknown relationship.
I dont see how a drink package limit wouldve made any difference there. Staff could be more empowered to cut ppl off but really its a matter of adults being responsible for themselves at the end of the day.
That's spousal abuse. A 15 drink limit wouldn't have saved her.
Yep. She is not safe with that man. Whoever he is to her.
You could get alcohol poisoning from that many drinks, and the it becomes a medical issue and possible lawsuit against Royal, like many land-based bars in the US. If the drinks were forced on her, possible assault charges also.
Whom ever said that a 15 drink limit would have saved this from happening I have a question for you, do you know how many drinks she had? Do you know if she had a drink package? Do you think she might have had other things going on like abuse of another substance or a reaction with a legal prescription and alcohol. No you have no clue but you set there, pass judgement and fell better about yourself because of what you said.
Spousal abuse? Maybe or maybe they both were too messed up from alcohol or other substances that their ability to make good decisions was extremely impaired. Yes the husband did not use good judgement but he did not hit her, try to drown her or sexually assault her. This may of been spousal abuse or it may easily of been poor judgment by both of these people.
@@ricktaylor5397so how many drinks did she have? Do you know Mr. Attorney want to be?
FYI Carnival has a 15 drink limit whether you have the package or not. That being said, I think it’s the right thing to do. If you can’t have fun with 15 drinks you may have a problem.
Personal responsibility! Lifeguards need reprimanded for not calling Security!! Security needed reprimanded for not responding/reacting MUCH quicker!!!
There is protocol in place. Crew are not permitted to take matters into their own hands, unfortunately. They need superior instruction before they action anything
There was probably a delay with finding females to deal with the situation because people like to throw that too aggressive or sexual assault claim when males have to be physical with females.
The husband was being abusive. That’s the main problem. I think Carnival has the right drink policy.
Carnival is a turd of a cruise corporation. I have no problem with their 15 drink limit on their package but I do have a problem that any additional drink that they buy or someone gives them is ok. Look if someone is stupid, does stupid things then they earn the stupid prizes they get.
Both of these people were being “abusive”. Mostly to themselves.
How much a person drinks and how they behave is an individual responsibility, not the cruise lines. You either sell alcohol or you do not. If you want limits, put a time limit between drinks, allow bartenders to cut off service if it is warranted or have your security intervene professionally, in a much faster way than they already do.
I wish cruise lines had a choice for a smaller drink package. 15 drinks is alot, but it does include the fancy coffees.
Personal responsibility. Period. I do not want any kind of limit because a few folks can't handle themselves. Those few folks can be cut off. There are many people who are able to space out their drinks over the course of the day and do not pass out, stumble, or become obnoxious. For years, there have been no limits with no problem. The only thing Royal needs to do is uphold the rules that they already have.
It was so great to meet you both on this cruise!
My husband and I were there at the Solarium Pool and saw this whole situation take place. We were just a few chairs from you. You recapped the events just as I remember them as well. It was very surprising how long they were allowed to remain in the pool in her condition. It difficult in those situations to know when to step in and offer help or leave it up to the "authorities" in this case the life guard and security staff. It was a difficult situation to witness for sure.
I was so excited to meet you on the cruise, thank you for making it even more memorable. I think that couple was 2 rooms down from me, security escorted a pretty enibreated woman and a man to their room and told them not to come out...
Being drunk & in a pool is dangerous - drowning is a high possibility risk. Thinking someone else will save you - well that’s not something I’d heavily rely upon 🤨🤔🙄
I cant imagine, my husband, or even any of my FRIENDS, forcing drinks on me when I was obviously well over my personal limit. My daughter (adult) and I were on a cruise last fall and I had had my fill, if you know what I mean, and she literally carried me down to bed, I took a nap, got up and felt better, and was done drinking for the day LOL this is what people who LOVE you DO. They take CARE of you....
this is what people do? i would be ashamed if my son had to carry me because i was drunk. speak for yourself we're not all drunks
@@JOHNTHEWHISK Did I say you were? Or anyone else? You seem to be taking that awfully personally.
My God I wouldn't make a child of mine have to do this for me.
Royal is not used to this kind of behavior, so they don’t know how to treat passengers!!! We have been in many Royal cruises and have never seen this!
It was one do the first times we’ve seen this and we were a bit shocked to be honest!
I've been on 12 Carnival cruises and I have never witnessed anything like this.
@@cindycarey5277Same! I've done plenty of cruises on several lines and have never seen intoxication at this level...on any line.
How can one (still) be 'responsible' when one is already intoxicated and barely cognizant of anything? 😜
It is everyone’s responsibility to control what they drink.
you have to ask yourself if unlimited drinks is ethical because it attracts alcoholics who abuse it and their bodies. maybe cruise ships shouldnt have unlimited drinks at all
The husband/partner KNEW what he was doing by going to GET the drinks for her. The cruise line should have at least listened to the other passengers. So sorry you had to witness this on your last day.
You have know idea what actually transpired, what was said from the lifeguards to management or security. The situation was handled. A couple made bad choices….not the cruise line.
it's the whole unlimited mentality. these same people pig out at the buffets because it's unlimited. some people just dont have any self control. they see unlimited and they are limit less. stupid, really.
I would be more concerned with her drowning in the pool.
And this husband would definitely sue if that had occurred.
How early in the day was this?? You said Jared was getting breakfast...she was that drunk before noon?
I'm not a drinker, but 15 drinks is plenty. I even think 15 is enough to share. I wish that you could buy one drink pkg and share it. I would probably only use it for a cocktail or 2 in the evening and the rest would be sodas. Just can't justify hundreds of dollars for that.
I wonder why ships even have lifeguards and security if they do NOTHING in situations like this? You as cruise vloggers have some influence, you should contact RCL's equivalent to John Heald and let management know exactly what happened. Their crew needs more training. It seems most crew on all cruise lines need training in how and when to intervene in situations. Not just violence but line cutters, loud music, weed, audience show disruption, drunkenness, chair hogs, unsupervised kids, kids in adult areas. Everything that wrecks cruising for others. The staff should intervene and get the guilty parties under control or escorted to their cabin. Why have rules at all if no one enforces them?
There are a lot of people out there who are alcoholics and can not stop themselves from drinking and a lot of the people on the cruise ships have unlimited drinks packages. Cruise ships are the worst place to be for alcoholics and gambling attics. I believe it is better to be on a more expensive that does not need to make money pushing alcohol and may not even have a casino. It is a healthier environment for a person that is battling addiction.
Finally someone calls it for what it is, alcoholism. I beat this addiction 8 years ago. I can't recall how many times I blacked out with zero memory of what I did the night before. I won't touch a drink and my wife quit as well to support me. These people need help.
So…only the Rich can be drunk, using your thinking?
Disney has the RIGHT drink policy. NO drink packages!
Definitely would not associate with ANYTHING regarding Disney…
After knowing what I know now
Once again making rules for everyone based on stupid people that can't navigate their lives.
I like this. I have no interest in being around drunk people. But I probably don’t cruise on the party type of cruises.
@@lisahennessey6903DCL has never had drink packages, so this isn't a reactive rule, it's proactive. You can carry on your own beer or wine with some limits, but hard liquor is purchased per-drink. They price drinks lower than most land restaurants. 🤷🏼♀️
That policy won't stop dumb people, period
I almost never drink alcohol except an occasional cocktail or glass of wine when cruising or at a super-special event. It would be easy for me to drink too much in these instances. I’ve learned to stop at one and sip slowly, partly because more plays havoc with my blood sugar. 🎉 Unlimited alcohol is dangerous.
I think Royal has the correct alcohol package but the issue isn't the alcohol package for either line. It's the behavior of the passengers and in the case they're talking about here, I would add the inaction of the crew that's supposed to be monitoring the situation.
Safety is paramount. She should've been removed. I'm not sure what was going on, but maybe a blood alcohol check was in order ...
Safety should be number one. If a lifeguard sees a safety issue they should be able to at least be able to tell someone to remove themselves from the safety issue. A bartender should be able to refuse to give someone a drink if they are too drunk however, that's a grey line.
15 drinks in a short period would get most people wasted so, that max may not be the solution.
I'm wondering if the lifeguards on board aren't allowed to verbally interact if there isn't a drowning situation in progress ... as it can cause conflict ...
Although it seems they didn't call security either .... so
Crew are not permitted to intervene unless instructed by superiors. This can take some time in some cases, by which time the situation could have escalated and become dire or volatile
@@denisegeorgiades2887 In a climate of ' don't get involved ' sentiment socially they have to wait until it upsets other passengers enough to take action ...
@deepbluehue3 not true. They're not at all worried about conflict. It's all about crew not taking matters into their own hands and awaiting instruction from superiors before taking action. Sometimes this could take a while. In the meantime, crew members are accused of not doing their jobs and allowing misdemeanors to slide
@@denisegeorgiades2887 ok ... It depends on the crew member ...
It doesn't make a difference on the drink policy. Some it would take 15+ drinks to get wasted. Some jt may be 2. So drink policies are not to blame.
I feel for her.
I would hate to think what happens behind close doors.
And she isn’t even a tiny bit responsible for what she is consumming?
I always find that your demeanor and interaction to be so polite and respectful making it a pleasure to watch your clips.
15 drinks is fine
Aww thank you!
I find it ridiculous that he was more concerned about the woman throwing up and preventing him from playing in the Solarium pool was even something that he had to mention, Hmm seems to me that was more important than the woman’s health, how much she had to drink or even about the drink package which we do not even know if she had.
I think the drink package is less the issue than the ineffectiveness of pool lifeguards and staff to intervene in dangerous situations. Staff has to be ready to intervene and if customers get mad, so be it. I don’t buy drink packages because they are too expensive for the amount that I would drink. But, who knows? it could have been a combination of meds and alcohol. The issue was the woman was incoherent,not capable of taking care of herself, and her cruise companion was clearly an AH who was not caring for her. Staff need to intervene more quickly.
I’m not sure a limit would stop someone from over indulging if they’re dead set on it. I once witnessed Carnival security cut off a lady who was very drunk and loudly belligerent to Havana Bar staff because they cut her off. They even confined her to her cabin for 24 hours she was so bad. But she went right back at it as soon as she got out. At one point her adult son tried to hide her card but she went to Guest Services and got another one. The bartender ended up just making her drinks without alcohol in them once she got too drunk. She didn’t know the difference.
I LOVE the sneaky virgin idea! Hmmm... Secret Virgin??? Anyway, I may use that on my next cruise with lightweights. The problem with having a high tolerance is always having to take care of those without.
When I was a younger man, I paid good money to go on a party barge excursion in Cancun. On the excursion, a crew member challenged everyone to a beer chugging contest. Well, I could chug beer with the best of them, so I took the challenge. I lost, but it was close, so I tried again. I tried again five or six more times and I always lost by about half a second. That guy could really chug beer. And I was hammered. I could barely walk. I can relate to the couple you saw -- when you're young and you pay for an "all you can drink" package, you want to get your moneys worth. It doesn't make it right. But I get it.
Drink packages are simply absurd, hundreds of dollars to get “free” drinks at the bar. Buying ala carte drinks is the way to go, after a normal two or three drinks a day you are way ahead of the game.
That’s a very interesting point! The drink package prices have gotten so high!
We have a 24 day cruise later this year. The drinks package that both of us would have to buy was well over $2000. This is no way I could drink that much. Alcohol & Soda combined. But there are those that would see that pre-purchased package as a challenge to get their money's worth.
I have to disagree with you. As someone who will drink at least 10 alcohol drinks and 12 sodas a day, the drink package is the way to go.
Was on RC at Christmas and couple in balcony cabin next to mine were smoking pot day and night. Many reported it. Cabins and hall smelled. They did nothing at all. Some shows and activities we were at, people were vaping pot and RC crew did nothing. It seemed so normal. I won’t ever cruise with them again. They seemed to care less.
This cruiser was far too drunk well before a 15 drink limit would have come into effect. All cruise lines, including Carnival, can cut a person off at any time such person is too drunk, regardless of the number or if they have a drink package.
So yes 15 drinks are a lot however being you are on vacation and maybe have a higher tolerance for alcohol if you have your first at 10am and stay up until 2am that is a drink an hour. If you are drinking in my case a light beer there is a very good chance I will not be intoxicated. I say punish the ones who take advantage of it, maybe ban them for the rest of the cruise from drinking (I’m sure that would make people think) but don’t punish the people being responsible who can handle their liquor punish and limit the ones who screw up. That’s the problem with this world everyone gets punished for the one who screw up.
When you first saw the situation, you should have alerted the ships crew that there was someone dangerously drunk. Why wait till she might die?
Good that your friend did eventually do something however, no way should anyone have allowed her to have more drinks after that. Really you should all have been speaking up about what you witnessed immediately when the security guards arrived too.
Neither cruise lines has a reasonable policy. Any bar on land at least in the US would be responsible to a degree. There should be a very strict limit. either none, or at most like 2 or 3 drinks per day plus the ability to cut off anyone likely drunk even with that. Peoples alcohol tolerance can vary from as little as none being safe (especially if pregnant or taking medications) to tolerance for large amounts.
Remember this is at sea, people have drowned or fallen overboard. Not only does it put them at risk, but it puts everyone else at risk. Some people become violent and belligerent when drunk. Really this problem is that the cruise companies you are talking about prioritize profit over safety of passengers.Personally i think it will take a number of deaths and law suits till they make changes.
Where do I begin? You won’t like this but if it was a homosexual couple you would have not cared one bit. I say this because you went well out of your way to shame them. Yes they appear to have been drunk, they were engaging in dangerous activity and yes the lifeguards should have intervened immediately. They did not. The life guards failed at their job. My question is what the hell did you do about it? What did anyone else do about it? Oh people told the woman’s husband to stop. You did nothing, the other passengers did nothing but guess what? Even though Royal Caribbeans life guards were questionable with their lack of action, they did get ahold of security and security took care of the situation. Now… your trying to make controversial content, I know, but how in the hell do you know if they had a drink package or not? Wait you do not. These people could have been paying each drink individually which means this situation could have happened on a Carnival ship. This situation had nothing to do with a drink package and it had nothing to do with whose drink package is better managed, more responsible, etc. The bottom line is this, that couple messed up, nobody did anything to intervene (you and your man were worried if the woman would get sick and interfere with your ability to get into and enjoy the Solarium pool. Royal Caribbean handed the situation and if that couple was embarrassed by it, oh well, it was their own damn fault. I am sure Carnival would have wound up doing the same damn thing.
What about just letting some adults be stupid adults? If I understood you, you were on five weeklong cruises on varying cruise lines where many had the unlimited package, and because you saw one or two people being irresponsible It’s time to set an unnecessary limit on thousands of other people? Which cruise line lets you pay for the drinks after the 15 limit? Because I can guarantee you every time I’ve been on a carnival ship in the last decade, once you hit 15 that is all the alcohol drinks you can have until 6 AM the next day.
Who made you the morality police?They weren't bothering anybody.You made a big deal out of nothing.So lady was drunk, she wasn't belligerent.She doesn't mean anybody mind your own business stay in your own lane
Everyone on Carnival is cut off at 15 drinks now. If you have the package you can't buy more drinks by paying for them separately. People used to stop at 14, have the bartender ring up their next few drinks separate from the package, or have a friend buy their next drinks, then have number 15 right before bed. To stop this they started the 15 drink limit for everyone last year (IIRC)
I’m a 4 star Mariner with HAL (374 cruise days and counting), and while I have reached my 15 drink limit on occasion, I have never been stopped from paying for the 16th. I assume that is because I don’t pond them back non-stop in a short period of time. From a business perspective, a cap of 15 pre-paid drinks is appropriate. Regardless, customer safety and limiting legal implications comes first.
@neildavis8470 that's HAL not Carnival. I understand they are understand they are under the same umbrella Corp but different rules for each.
Personal responsibility!! Drink policies can’t control a persons alcohol tolerance. The guy sounds like a jack***
Your a grown ass adult and you should be responsible for yourself. Someone else shouldn't have to put a limit on you, cruise ships are not Adult Day care centers !
What's worse is the woman could have gone from extreme drunk to dead in the 30 mins it took RCL to react!
15 drinks is a lot, and who wants to be around a bunch of falling down drunks, let them go on a booze cruise!
I hope since you guys have lots of content coming we will see some of the ships & areas you went instead of you just sitting in front of the camera & talking.
In the world we live in security can no longer just step in & put hands on someone, it’s sets them up for a lawsuit & even if the cruise line is in the right they usually settle & it costs them a lot.
If Carnival’s limit is 15 per 24 hrs but then they can continue to pay full price & drink then that isn’t limiting their drinks, it’s just costing them more. So neither line is limiting to a number for 24 hrs. When per vacation sometimes they seem to leave their brain at home & do things they normally wouldn’t. I hope that the case here but if it isn’t then she needs to leave him asap.
Did everyone applaud? No limits... The minority should not ruin for the rest.
Drink packages encourage people to drink more than they normally would. It should be pay for each drink separately but then the cruise line would make less MONEY.
You guys find more cruise drama than any other vloggers. Very entertaining
I concur!
I think when you cruise as often as they do, you're bound to see more craziness! (I've seen a lot of these behaviors but I don't have a channel to make these observations public.) Kudos to JJ Cruise for shining a light on all cruise behavior, good and bad!
The cruise drama….well it’s in their nature.
The male partner should have been detained for spousal abuse and she should have been contained to her cabin until she sobered up.
I'm not a fan of drink limits if an alcohol package has been purchased. I do feel adults should be held responsible for their actions.
15 is plenty. But I do like how NCL will comp the second drink of I offer to pay for a friend as you can get 2
Horrible behavior
Personal responsibility. But why weren't they cut off. Shame on the lifeguards
She might have been cut off. It sounds like her husband might have been getting the drinks at the bar.
Not sure if it's the lifeguards' responsibility to cut people off. They could halt "horseplay " in the pool, and call security.
Made my day that so many bystanders were disturbed by that horrible partner's behavior 😊❤
There should definitely be a limit. If I'm paying 10,000$ for my family to enjoy a vacation and it gets ruined by some drunken morons who can't control themselves, will the cruise company compensate me?? NO THEY WONT!!! maybe there should be booze cruises separate from the regular cruiser. If caught then kicked off at the next port and find your own way home...HAVE A NICE DAY!!
I would have been lodging formal complaints against the lifeguaruds who did nothing. My child was once a lifeguard and one of the tenets that was drilled home again and again in training is that people's lives are in a lifeguard's keeping. It's a solemn, deadly serious duty that must be upheld.
Jordan who are you to say what I can drink and how it affects me. I know my limits.
Carnival, for someone not high tolerant of alcohol this could be poisonous.😊
Who’s to say she is drunk. Could she be on pills, along with alcohol
Alcohol under any circumstance should not be served to somebody who is so intoxicated that they cannot make reasonable decisions or take care of themselves no matter what kind of package they have purchased. Excess alcohol can lead to death; sober people around someone who is that intoxicated need to make the right decisions for the person that is unable to make the right decision for themselves
15 drinks?…. One drink, and I feel it. (Two drinks and hey, anyone can!)
who knows what was going on in that scenario, sounds awful and her companion unsafe
I’m thinking there’s more to this story than was witnessed. You stated it was around breakfast time. Kinda sounds like he was indeed forcing drinks on her but I’m thinking she was roofied (spelling). Also, questioning why the guy was forcing drinks on her and refusing to get her help.
Agreed.
This was my thought if she was this drunk before Jared even woke up something isn’t right.
Sounds like he’s trying to make room for a new wife
They be Drunks. Simple as that. No Roofies needed.
I don’t believe a drink limit is necessary so long as a cruise line can expect its bartenders to cut someone off and “safety crew” such as lifeguards to step in when necessary. It seems if the situation was that obvious to other passengers the lifeguards should have taken charge. Perhaps they are not permitted to handle things like that? In 36 Royal cruises I have never seen anyone that drunk.
The woman is a one off. Do not limit me because of a lightweight.
You two surely get to see some crazy stuff while out cruising. The best I get to see is one of my kids punching the other kid in the arm here at home.
It sounds like she was roofied.
I thought of that, too!
Definitely a possibility.
This guy is not a good influencer for cruise lines
I don’t know how a person can be responsible after consuming 15 drinks.
I blame TRUMP!
I admire Carnival for putting on the 15 drink limit. It's for your safety and the safety of others.
15 drinks is no safety for anyone. It's just a challenge for cheap people who have that package to drink more.
amazing story..I laughed I cried and in the end I testified..my life will never be the same...and all because of your unbelievable stories
Where's the video of this situation?
He should have not have been served any more drinks if he was as drunk as she was… Bartenders have a responsibility as well but that man should be ashamed of himself
Absolutely agree that there should be a limit, and just pray that the limit isn't taken as a challenge!
Drink limit doesn't matter. Limit could be 5 drinks and this lady could have still ended up that way if she drank all 5 drinks in an hour. Carnival limits to save money, not protect guests from themselves.
I agree with Carnival’s rule. The woman could have died of alcohol poisoning.
Someone said in the comments that the couple was escorted to their room and told not to come out. I think that was the wrong course of action because you're right. The woman could have died of alcohol poisoning. And being drunk to the level she was, stuck in a room with an idiot, could have killed her. She should have been taken to the infirmary and monitored for a little while.
@@saralynmckinney4946 Exactly. If she was at this level of intoxication, someone SOBER needs to monitor her.
Sounds like he was trying to kill her!
The bartender should be fired. The abuser needs AA. The woman needs a divorce. Oy vey.
Of course this happened on the very last day of your last side-by-side! I feel a little sorry for the woman; it sounds like her partner was forcing the drinks on her. I do like the flexibility of the Royal drink package; the Premium includes the "good" coffee in the coffee shop and sparkling water, which I like to have with my meals, as well as mocktails and soda. Between all those and the alcoholic drinks I could see getting past 15 drinks, especially on sea days or at Coco Cay. I'd have to try pretty hard, though. Maybe post a limit per hour? That should be common sense, but not everyone has it, it seems.
It's not the corporations responsibility to cater to those without common sense or save them from themselves though. I hate the "punish everyone on behalf of the fools" philosophy. If some adults can't control themselves thats their problem and they have to live with the consequences.
Carnival's doesn't work. Like you said, it gives people a target. This is one of the few "other" lines issues I've seen, where on Carnival it's almost a weekly occurrence. The problem here is the guy.
I've sailed Carnival a Royal, and waaaaayyyyy more drunk, sloppy, people on Carnival.
I've sailed both and have seen totally wasted people on both.
Obviously, this makes it uncomfortable for everyone else in that part of the pool deck. When what you are doing disturbs the other passengers, their behavior needs to be corrected. The woman was in danger and they absolutely had to act. I know only certain ones on a ship can tell the passengers, "No"! You two go on so many cruises, so you have a better chance of encountering certain negative behaviors than we do. We all need to behave properly in public and not disturb those near us. As for the drink package limit, the cruise line wants people to buy it, so they do not want to turn people off by setting limits. As adults, we need to set our own proper limits.
Bartenders and cocktail servers are trained to recognize signs of intoxication and to cut off guests who exhibiting signs of being drunk . Not sure if this is the case onboard cruise ships as well, but it is not a very responsible move to keep serving drinks to an obviously dangerously drunk customer whether you're on a cruise or just at your neighborhood bar. You're just asking for problems
Personal responsibility is a lovely concept, if it only worked for everyone. For those it doesnt work for, Carnival has a good protocol. Royal Caribbean needs to adopt the same.
I wasn't paying much attention (I love using your videos as background noise while I work) and I thought you said 'WE SAW A WOMEN GET WEIGHED' 😂😂😂😂
Great video Jordan, my opinion on the drink package is that it should be the responsibility of the individual. I've got friends that could do 15 drinks in a day and be totally fine, sounds crazy I know, but not everyone is the same. I also have friends that will be hammered after 3 drinks. I think that people should have the responsibility to control themselves not the cruise line. However if someone wants to go over the top and get sloppy ass drunk, that's on them. It's all about personal responsibility my friend. And hey love the content. I'm going on my first cruise in 20 years this June.
Yep... 15 drinks maximum is ENOUGH ... its not reasonable fo UNLIMITED ...
I may be a new follower and this was super great to hear! I love how you describe everything and that was cool! My concern is your comment about Carnival with being able to buy after you reach your 15. It's 15 (period) alcoholic drinks per 6-6 shift. I mean, you may be able to get someone working or friend to get you one but it's 15 per day. :)
That is so ridiculous and sad at the same time. Spousal abuse for sure.
It's crazy that people litterly over drink because of the drink package.I don't drink much, but I get the drink package because it includes water, specialty coffee, water etc etc. People tend to think that it's only for liquer and want their monies worth. Carnival is doing good by keeping a 15 max drink, and even with that people are drunk 😅😅
15 was PLENTY! I was on Princess and even with the 15 including alcohol, specialty coffees like lattes and mochas and other various non boozy drinks I reached double digits only on one day ( had a lot of lattes earlier that morning 😂).
The staff needed to intervene and cut that couple off long ago.
I agree with Carnival about limiting drinks on cruises, due to a percentage of those drinking becoming violent, abusive and dangerous. Including a condition which happens from the depressant known as alcohol, where in it cause the body's anamonic response system to fail. For example, the woman in the story being passed out in a pool, she could have very easily drowned, due to being highly intoxicated causing her epiglottal flap to fail to seal over the airway to the lungs. Including, vomiting and aspirating it into the lungs which can also cause drowning as well. The woman's husband sounds like a massive jerk, forcing alcohol down his wife's throat to the point that she dies, from him doing so. No one has the right to force anyone to do anything that they don't want to, especially if it isn't good for them.
Making someone sodrunk that she can betakenadvantageof?Nothanks!I amunsubscribingyou!GOODBY!
Has nothing to do with getting your money's worth or a challenge if you wake up in the morning with breakfast and have some cocktails perhaps Bloody Mary whatever couple beers at lunch get ready have a couple drinks at before you go to dinner have a glass of wine or so go to a show and have a couple drinks at the casino you'll see you'll be at 15 drinks pretty fast and not even be buzzed the one thing you have to watch with Carnival is and I busted him a lot of times doing this is if you're not paying attention and you order a crown on the Rocks they won't even give you a full shot they'll try to pour you the half Jigger shot and try to get away with it which on our last Cruise you had about 40 to 50 people catch on to this and we're really angry at bartenders trying to do this to the third day in a cruise you seen none of them using the little Jigger at all anymore
With Carnival enforcing their rules, a LOT of the people are moving over to Royal. We did a side to side of Royal and Carnival and we noticed that on Royal, the smell of the devil's lettuce as well as people blaring their bluetooth speakers was quite prevalent. On Carnival there was none of that. However, on Carnival there was one family that was problematic for everyone on the cruise. Fighting, someone from the group stole someone's S&S card and used it in the arcade...Plus just being overtly hostile to everyone around the pool deck. It was Thanksgiving and half of the family didn't know how to act in public. Over all though, the Carnival cruise was WAY more enjoyable.