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2 Strokes Are The Best | Huge Dirt Biker #2
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
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Old school carburetored 2 strokes is only way to go!! For me
I agree 1000%.
The manufactures profit heavily off foolish buyers that waste money on 12,000 rpm hockey puck piston motors that are total junk.
And then those wonderful junky TPI 2 stroke motors...!!! Don't get me started.. !!! CARBED 2 stroke are the epitome in reliability.
Now air cooled 4 strokes are reliable so if you want a decent 4 stroke then stick with them.
@@carlatamanczyk3891 Haven't had a single issue with my 21 TPI 300. I know some have, but it is far from the norm with normal maintenance. It also works really well with elevation changes. My son's carb'd bike on the other hand was another story. An electron carb fixed that issue. I love carb'd bikes. Don't get me wrong. But the tpi bike is good. Here's a vid for you from Cole: ua-cam.com/video/bvh9aE5lGYo/v-deo.html
@@chewyb383 same, no problem with my 21 300 tpi and it’s by far the best bike I’ve ever ridden.
good luck getting 200 miles out of a tank with any 2 stroke. I like 2 stroke for trials and hard enduro, 4 stroke for dual sporting/long rides
Morgan your 4st sound description a wet fart is 100% accurate! 2 strokes rule! KX500 for life!
Morgan, I’m Loving these “huge dirt biker” videos. Too damn funny, and I am in agreement, the comments are making the whole experience even better.
Shots fired 😂 I really enjoy the dynamic between you and Jeff. You’re more of a blue collar, every-man rider and he’s an old grumpy dude with tons of experience and deep pockets. Both very knowledgeable with valuable perspectives, keep it coming 👍
Thanks man. We are going to disagree like crazy on this bike. 🤣😂
"you gotta change the piston every 10 seconds" that gave me a good laugh 😂
😂😂😂
Only if piston is installed backwards.
I got a 22 TC250 in April. Haven't really been riding since I was 11 yesterday old. I'm 45 now. The TC250 was a screaming Banshee. I put in the Green Spring in power valve and Flywheel weight 9oz. It's so uch more rideable now. I went from being disillusioned with its abrupt power curve to ecstatic with the newfound rideability. So stoked about my 2 stroke!
I have a yz 250 I just did the same thing, I put a 11 oz on it . Made a huge difference!
Got to love the 2smoke
Came from cr 125 and then yz 250 two stroke. I have been riding a yz 450 f for 4 years now and I couldn't be happier. No more high side crashes on dry gnarly tracks due to powerband hit. So far my 450 has been cheaper to maintain all things considered. Don't know about higher revving 250 4 t's though. Got a magnetic sump plug and do oil filter checks after every ride to make sure to catch parts for wear. Two strokes very unpredictable and difficult to diagnose engine health due to naturally smoking of engines, having no oil filters, old crank seals leading to lean conditions and almost always ruined nikasil in barrels. So for me it's 450 4 stroke Thank you.
I love this!!!! 2 stroke for life!!
My first street bike was a 2-stroke. My first dirt bike was a 4-stroke. I got it all backwards. Of course they are both now iconic. 1984 RZ350 and a 1978 XR75. I still have the XR.
First dirt bike ct 70 mini trail at 10 and first street bike Kawasaki 750 triple and yes it almost killed me
2 smoker till I can't throw a leg over. Best H D B video ever
F'iing hilarious-couldn't agree more. Had a 350 xc and 300xc for years and had to sell one this spring, both great bikes but it was a no brainer to sell the 350!
I got back in the game many years ago with a crf450. Then a cr500. Then another cr500, then another cr500, then a kx500. Then sold the crf450. Then a ktm300xcw. Still hoarding all my 2 strokes! 😬
I have purposely raced a KTM 300 for 250 hours on a top end just to prove a guy wrong and other than i slight loss of power after around 175 hours it still ran great. I'm with you 100-150 hours is a good time to swap a piston!
2 strokes matter haulin ass mixing gas and slapping ass!!!!
Love the lightness and flickability of my 2 strokes, and love the grunt and long distance riding aspects of my 4T.
So now I'm really screwing with my head and ordered a 4T 300 trials bike!! 😝🤪
57 out of the box makes me think the only mod needed is a flywheel weight!
Got one of each now thanks for my buddy who has one of each, they're just different that's the truth! It's like horses, maybe riding the old trusted quarter horse versus the spirited Arab! Wet fart, you got my wife cracking up with that one!
I primarily ride very hard single track, and wouldn’t want anything other than a 2 stroke. Simply for the weight savings, and heat management. The few people I ride with on 4 strokes are always having overheating issues. Not to mention the heat they give off to the rider.
For wide open desert riding, 4 stroke all day!
I’m old and fat and the four stroke fits my lazy riding style. That the long and short of it.
So glad I made the move to a 2 stroke! My life is so much better!
Word!
Amen
When you’re behind a 4 stroke, you can smell the owner’s shame.
Bwahahahaha
Man keep on! Lol love it! No lie though - just like you with having both 2 and 4 strokes, I have so much more fun on 2 strokes. Even just warming it up at the trailhead I'm already having fun and in a different mental state.
Agree
I ride with both four stroke guys and two stroke men, the four stroke guys only do good on flat dirt roads transitioning from one trail to another. The two stroke men, well we do great on every surface. BRAAAP!
We're all riders no matter 2 stroke 4 stroke all good..
6 speed FC 450 for the desert, XCw 300 for Colorado. Both go to whitewash because why not.
Make America Two Stroke Again!
Wet farts! LMFAO!! You nailed it. Everyone needs to work on growing a thick skin. When I was growing up it sometimes was a challenge to make someone butt hert. Not anymore, wear the wrong color underwear and it gives people ptsd
🤣😂
4 stroke for life... My mate brand new 2020 2 stroke 1st ride out can't start.. Bike does in the dunes.. Jetted horribly from dealer.. Me.... Push button and go😜
XR!!!!!!! WOOOOO
Different strokes for different folks. Just enjoy the ride.
2 smokers all day!!
Rotella for my 2 stroke gear boxes all day long, super easy to change with no filters. I like the more frequent changes to make sure there is no metal chunks floating around. My 4t husky on the other hand takes the finest synthetic maxima with its 2 oil filters and oil screens.
I like them both
Love 2 strokes! Have a Honda CR250 & a KTM 250XC plus a bunch of vintage Bultacos. When I get depressed I go to the garage, fire up a 2 stroke and just enjoy the aroma.
I just got a 2019 YZ125 for my daughter. She’s been riding a 2018 CFR 125. She had me lay the YZ125 on the ground to see if she can pick it up, she’s 14. She picked it up with no problem and said it’s about as heavy at the CFR125, which is physically smaller. I did the same thing and she was right the smaller four stroke weighs as much as the larger two stroke.
They both are fun that's why I have one of each
Carb 2stroke in my eyes are great. But if I ever buy a new bike it has to have the magic button on it. If I get a yz I will order a button kit. I still think that in general a starter isn’t needed but for people who have hurt themselves as I have I absolutely need one.
If I were you I would not put a rekluse on because out of the box the engine and transmission are just fine when you just dropped 2 k on suspension! The 6500s sounds like a kyb kit. Getting rid of the air forks is 1st. The spring and spring kit run 600s . The bladder kit is also mandatory because of the long rides. 15 minutes at Washougal is a piston thing. Desert woods rides go for hours at a time. A local shorty is 2 hours.
2 stroke over all
Morgan! To help your argument on price a 2023 yz250 is almost 3k cheaper than a new 450! The Austrian brands are at the price they’re at because of the amount of money in R&D they’ve spent on the technology etc…
I'm one of those "conflicted souls" that just cant decide upon the number of strokes I like best. From a pure riding comparison, I must say at my advanced age I value the laziness I can do on a 4stroke yet there are places I ride that the 2stroke is the better choice so I conclude by saying I am happy I have both. So get out and ride YOUR DIRT BIKES!
Buy a Beta 300rr like I did at 61 , it has so much low end torque but can still rip!
@@powerwagon3731 funny you say that, as I have been looking at them. I would really like to test ride one.
I love the quick little photo inserts, hilarious!
Rotella T4 gang for life!!!
I'm with ya on this one. My dad has a sxf and it's nice not a bad ride but it doesn't compare to me and my brother's sx s
Have KTM300, way more nimble, better lug in technical, easier clutch work, more flow in downhills, faster acceleration, so yes, 2 stroke wins!
Spot on! The 4 strokes center of gravity is also higher. So, even if they weighed the same weight, they are still heavier riding them.
It doesn’t matter what your ride just ride. I happen to have the best 450 4 stroke in the great state of Texas state thank you very much
You are right, it’s all about fun.
You are right, it’s all about fun.
Hey Mate, ive had my KX250 2006 since brand new from the dealer in 2008. I ride it every weekend the only major parts ive changed is 3rd and 4th gears in the gear box in 2017 apart from that the cylinder is in new condition with no signs of wear. Change the rings and keep that air filter clean.
Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Shoot, When you,re right you,re right. The maintenance the smell the fun factor. I,m still living it. 2 Smoke on my man.....
This is my new favorite video. Braaap!✊
Love your video comments and "opinion". I have both 300xc and 450F. Love them both. If I had to pick one though, I would pick the 300xc. When I'm riding open fast terrain I pick 450f for its stability, power, and torque. The tighter and more technical I pick a torquey 2stroke. Many other reasons for liking one or the other, but those are the biggest reasons for me. Love your videos, keep them coming!!
Love it Morgen! Poke the bear! I’m with you, love 2 strokes! In Australia there aren’t many registerable 2 bangers so I have to be content with my air cooled 4 stroke as I don’t get to ride the trails as much as I used to.
2chokes 4ever
2 strokes all day!!! Just got a 2023 Husqvarna TE300 it’s the best bike I’ve ever ridden. It’s incredibly fast, light weight and has so much bottom end torque. TPI is awesome and the bike is super low maintenance, just put gas and oil in the tank and go.
I will say, when at supercross races, the smells and sounds of 4 strokes are awesome. Not saying it wouldn’t be better with two strokes (especially the smell) but that 4 stroke smell doesn’t bother me one bit either.
I can appreciate it better when I don’t have to worry about working on them either 😅
I'll take the linear power of a four stroke any day over a two stroke. I do get the love of a two stroke though. So hey, go for it.
LOL! Love it! ❤️
Was wearing my 2 strokes matter T-shirt and got my 1st " what the hell is that? " at the store today.. Saint Louis MO don't know ! Lol
“4 strokes sound like wet farts” that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day!! From now on I shall call them sharts!!! Braaaaaapppppp!!!
I've got a Beta 300RR and a YZ250FX. I'm partial to the 2T but the 4T makes the lappers easier to get around. Give it a rev and they'll jump outa the way. Keep the vids coming Morgan.👍
4 strokes move the body, 2 strokes move the soul.
you are right I had a 2 stroke it was a 125 and I took it on this guy track he had a 450 and bet him on his only track
Love your videos. My buddy Craig discovered you last year on our CO trip. We stopped by your shop a few weeks ago after our annual ride. Was a pleasure to meet you. Love and value you information and experience here. Thank you and keep on keeping on!
Thanks so much
Right now i love the 2 stroke bikes. But a few years ago, i loved the 4 stroke bikes. And in a few years i probably am gonna go back to 4 strokes again, amd that is gonna change every few years. I have 10 bikes in my collection and half of them are 2 strokes and half is 4 strokes. So i cant really argue for one or the other. The only real solution is to get a bunch of both types and just ride them as you feel for. But there is 3 things 2 strokes rule over the 4 strokes and that is: sound, smell and cost of parts/maintenance.
On a logging road sure the 4 stroke is fast and fun. But everywhere else the 2 stroke is way way better! I was the biggest 4stroke fan, I had them all. But im back on 2 strokes for life!
I’m 61 now and started riding DT, RT 1,GT etc. series Yamaha’s (2strokes) in the mid seventies. I’ve had about every type and brand of dirt bike in my 50 years of riding and now it’s come full circle because I’m back to riding 2 strokes. I now ride a 2022 Beta300rr which is totally awesome for Colorado single track and a KTM SX 250. I also have a restored and modded YZ 426 that I will never sell, real nice KX 250f. Etc. I can’t argue with you and glad to be back on 2 strokes for my go to bikes!
Tranny Oil!!! That image popped up and I just freaking lost it! LOL 2 STROKE for LIFE!! & ohhh they sound sooo good!
I figured that might get me banned! 🤣😂
I like both i love my rm 125 for those long dual sport rides with alot of pavement. And for the real hard enduro stuff I love my Dr650 because of the estart and its tractability.
Yep... I have gone back to a 2 stroke after many years riding 500 and 350 KTMs.
Took me a while to adjust my riding style, but I am sold on the 2 t.
Makes me feel like a young bloke again 🤙🤣
I went for a Beta 250 for its simple Keihin carburettor.
I love the KTMs but I'm not sold on the TPI bikes yet.
It is only a matter of time until all manufactures will be full injected 2 strokes.
PS..... TuBliss is awesome 👍... you got that bit wrong mate 🤣
I love them both as well, just depends on what terrain I'm riding or how I'm feeling...
I don't think one is better than the other just different and both are awesome.
They both put a smile on your face and they both piss you off. Like asking 1 ply or 2 ply ass wipe. One may be cheaper but they both get the job done!
Two stoked for life ! I have an 09 YZ 250 and a XR 400 R two strokes are definitely more fun to ride , In my opinion
This is a fun subject. 4-stroke is the new 2-stroke. More affordable, extremely reliable. The modern 250's have to be ridden to understand. I will never get back on a tpi made with china ktm. Tpi bikes are a hot mess of Chinese parts and pressure sensors. Rotella sucks!
I'm a big 2 stroke fan, but I do have to agreee that the yamaha yzf250's are gettin' it.
@@Leick42 I went from a new 22 huskavarna tpi bike to a 22 yz250fx. I did have to make a few changes to make it comfortable for me up here in the rocky mountains. Suspension revalved, heavy GTYR fly wheel and a throttle cam that eliminates the on off feeling. I've got about 10 hours on the YZFX now, It's smoother, less fatiguing and faster everywhere than my state of the the art 2022 TE150I was. I immediately noticed the fx felt lighter once moving than the TE150I, It's way more flickable for some reason. Additional significant benefits, Much higher cruising speed so I can get to the BLM land without loading it into my truck. Gets what seems like almost twice the fuel economy. The yzfx lists weight wet and ready to ride, so ultimately not much heavier than the lightest TPI bikes. I would normally agree with Morgan about 4 stroke dirt bikes not sounding the best, but this 250FX rev's to the moon and sounds beautiful doing it, It's almost concerning how high this engine revs, but it always sounds great. Something else about the Yamaha is on rough terrain nothing rattles or shakes, it's well engineered. My huskavarna sounded like a K-mart mountain bike on the rough stuff.
@@Dat_Sun "My huskavarna sounded like a K-mart mountain bike on the rough stuff." LOL
Love your videos man!
Somebody tell Jett that 4 strikes suck!
I like them both, that's why I ride both but I personally Have more fun on my two strokes but feel I'm faster on my four strokes. Great vid! love all the comments! lol 😂
The best UA-cam video of all time. “Wet farts” too funny
Love two stroke but add a drop of caster oil in a 4 stroke. Nirvana!
I have both love the way the power hits on a 2t and definitely more fun
I had to laugh about the 4 stroke line, I think they are great when someone else owns them. I ride with a buddy who owns a 250 and 350 ktm 4 stroke, I let him ride my 300 ktm and he went out and bought a 300.
I'm the guy that came in on my 650r (which I also think is one of the greatest bikes of all time) a few weeks back and changed my tire in your shop. I told you I was going to do the Sidewinder singletrack. I did manage to run about 5 miles of it but it was quite the challenge on the big girl and it started to get really hot after a while. Man was I missing my YZ250X at that point. 2 strokes will always been king of the gnarly stuff and cooler/funner without a doubt.
My buddy has an 07’ 650R. I stalled it once when we switched bikes and that was the last time I rode that bike. I kicked that thing for like 5 minutes before he realized I wasn’t behind him anymore 😂😂
@@brantleyanderson6807 there's some tricks to getting it going. If it's not really hot and didn't get laid down I can pretty much start it one kick every time. If you try to just start it like a regular bike it's never going to happen.
@@StoopidSmith323 oh for sure. My buddy can get that bike started in 1-2 kicks every time. As easy as one would think t should be, it’s rather complicated kick starting some bikes.
I like the RZ350 in the background
Lol, the GREAT DEBATE!
I ride a 4 stroke now, but my next bike will be a 2 stroke. It’d be nice to have one of each, though!
Love these Videos with you👍
Meeker extreme is really into that Rotella lube. We all can do what we like 👍!It is fun to have a passion!
Absolutely
Man I own a 2021 GasGas MC 125 my buddy laughed at me till he road it then he said that thing will kill you it was funny 😄!
The "tranny oil" joke! Dying 🤣🤣
Haha
Ride both (450xcf, 250xcw, now 250ec gasgas) all are fun but two stroke is way more fun. 4stroke drives you while 2stroke is more nimble, smells and sounds better to. If your riding track sure 4stroke but for tight single track…. Two stroke all day. It’s like a front wheel drive bs rear wheel😂
I have both. Love to ride both. The 4 stroke negative comes when you need to rebuild. 4 strokes take more time and cost more money to rebuild.
022 yz 250x 2 strokes only way to live .who cares about e start LIGHTS are where it at .keep up the good work Tony
Thought I would hear something different than everyone has already said. LOL
I have one of each. Prefer the 4 stroke for cross country/harescramble racing. I prefer the 2 stroke for technical riding.
Agreed, big bore 2 bangers rule !!
Switched to 4 stroke this year. 22 kx250x. Having a boat load of fun on it riding hard enduro, trail and moto. For sure it gets hotter but I have a fan and it motivates me to keep moving fast. Best stock suspension so far. I recently rode my buddies 300 2T and it felt small and wimpy. I might just end up being a 4 stroke convert.
I traded in my 21 Kx450x for a husqvarna te300i and love it. If I get another 4 stroke though, I think I’ll get the 250x tho. Looks like a fun nike
300 felt small and wimpy eh? Haha wonder what’s wrong with it?
@@brantleyanderson6807 The TE 300 is the one bike I would buy but I got the kx for 83 out the door. Not disappointed.
@@jebbrooks5802 Its a gasgas ex 300. I actually sold it to him with 20 hours in it. I couldn't stand it the suspension has no hold up. After the kx it feels small and not substantial. He loves it though.
@@PBmxer dang that’s super interesting. Goes to show how differently people can perceive the different styles of bike. I recently sold my XC-F 350 and am moving to the TX 300 as the two stroke feels more playful to me and lugs better without wanting to stall. Operator error, I know but less prone to stalling is better for me haha.
I have a story in favor of two bangers! So, on July 4th I went riding at an OHV park in MN. About 5 hours in I took a change crossing a spot in the river… aaaaand I flooded it. I hydro locked the hell out of that bike (2022 HQ 300). Within 30 minutes we got the water out and we were able to get the bike running and I was riding again about 10 minutes later. My favorite part is I had an iridium plug and it didn’t even foul and got me through the rest of my ride. If that’d have been the 4 stroke I traded in for my 300… I’d have been screwed.
I needed half my tool box to access a Beta 430 spark plug, then still needed to order a special thin wall deep socket with a wobble to pull the plug.
Glad you were able to continue your ride!!!
@@striker6022 although I’m not a big fan of my plastics not being bolted to the bike, it’s really handy in situations like that one and helps for taking the bike apart. Just need to take out the seat bolt and a T25 torqs bit to get the tank off.
The difference is like cosmopolitan magazine models from the 90’s to today... pick your plumpness... but hey I’ll ride em both, I don’t care...
The only advantage of a thumper 450 is long steep / sandy/ loose hill climb!
If you weigh 150 a 300 2T it’s fine , 250 pounds geared up my 300 ain’t getting it done!
Other than that 2T are the best!!!
More huge dirt biker videos!!!
Oh they are coming
You had me at glorious smell of 2stroke 🙂
As soon as everyone I ride with is faster than me just because of the engine and nothing else I'll sell my 4T. Until then I'll carry on.