Black Widow: An Unbridled Catastrophe
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- From a golden age to a golden shower of storytelling, say hello to the fourth phase of the MCU!
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0:00:00 - Welcome to Phase Four!
0:06:49 - Ohio 1995
0:12:47 - Natasha evades Ross | Morocco
0:20:03 - Task Master attacks Natasha
0:26:04 - The Budapest safehouse | Escaping the Red Room assassins
0:54:02 - Natasha reveals her history | Planning the next move
1:01:58 - Breaking Alexei out of prison | The moral spiral of the MCU
1:13:07 - The history of super soldiers and Alexei in the MCU
1:15:03 - Visiting Milena and reuniting the family
1:19:49 - The history of Hydra/Soviet mind control
1:23:50 - The family discuss their history/issues
1:27:23 - The family are captured by Dreykov and the third act begins
1:32:58 - The third act continues... Task Mistress is revealed
1:42:00 - The cinematic event that made all the men squeam
1:45:20 - Milena's plans and detonating the engines
1:49:16 - Natasha vs. the Black Widows with Yelena to the rescue
1:51:58 - Welcome to the clown singularity
2:02:04 - Natasha vs. Task Master and the happily ever after...
2:09:17 - Conclusion - World building
2:21:32 - Conclusion - Thematic through lines
2:27:09 - Conclusion - Flow, tone and the male gaze
2:34:55 - Conclusion - Plot
2:43:02 - Conclusion - Character - Dreykov, Task Master and Mason
2:48:33 - Conclusion - Character - Milena and Alexei
3:02:06 - Conclusion - Character - Yelena
3:14:15 - Conclusion - Character - Natasha's combat expertise and intelligence
3:19:32 - A video essay within a video essay: One marvellous scene
3:37:03 - Conclusion - Character - Natasha's values
3:45:32 - Why did they assassinate Natasha? (and so many others)
3:53:43 - The lost potential
3:58:35 - Conclusion - Choreography, compositing, CGI, editing, soundtrack and subtitles
4:01:45 - Conclusion - What's been lost and why
4:11:04 - Thank you so much for watching - PLUSHIES! - Фільми й анімація
"As though killing the Emperor got rid of the Death Star"
Killing the Emperor didn't even get rid of the Emperor lol
Please, let's all pretend that the sequel trilogy doesn't exist, go back to legends
@@evianarsenio9146 Dark Empire
Oh my God. There is no escape. NOOOOOOO!!!
Yeah, bad writing is bad.
@TheYagonaut You mean the same one barely anyone considered as canon even back then? This included the Droid Tales. The emperor being cloned or “resurrected” was a bad idea at the time in the SWEU and it still is now. I ain’t attacking you or anything, I just can’t stand folks using that argument out of context or research. But hey, if you knew about this beforehand, more power to ya.
Do you guys remember in The Winter Soldier where everyone was seriously worried about Natasha when she was shot by Bucky and was bleeding out on the street? Man, those were the days where a character being human meant having actual stakes.
That's why The Winter Soldier will always be my favourite MCU film.
That's one of my favorites scenes in the movie *because* it made Natasha human and the Winter Soldier scary.
@@GloriousSquizoKing. It honestly felt like a scene from The Terminator or Halloween.
@S W Hell, now i'm wandering why she even got SHOT in TWS, because after all we saw her go through in Black Widow, why *wouldn't* Natasha be bulletproof, right?
Thought in the movie, the Red Guardian was actually her father which I though would explain some of the shots I saw in the trailer. The falling 7 stories, hitting everything on the way down while still landing on her feet is more believable if it turns out she's half super soldier.
20:34 - task master
20:44 - mask tasker
21:05 - task manager
21:27 - mask fastener
21:42 - taskerooni
23:06 - ass blaster
23:25 - scout master
23:52 - flaccid master
24:44 - podcaster
24:58 - shart master
25:26 - skull master
25:40 - tasky masty
50:32 - skull fucker
51:25 - cringe master
51:40 - master craster
51:46 - the snail
52:16 - fudge master
1:34:35 - task fucker
1:35:22 - task master
1:36:59 - flab smacker
1:47:57 - piss master
1:48:08 - shart caster
1:48:36 - tasky
1:48:45 - flap fapper
1:53:24 - fart caster
1:54:00 - the master of tasks
2:02:18 - tism master
2:02:44 - yeast plaster
2:02:56 - scrotum sucker
2:03:07 - AIDS master
2:03:16 - melon fucker
3:54:02 - task lad
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Thanks for the work friend 🫡
You forgot the 1:51:13 flask fućker
2:35:42 dumbass master
2:36:39 tug master
3:57:09 - Atony Masters
3:57:18 - Task Manager (Again)
2:35:42 - dumbass master
2:36:40 - tug master
2:41:26 - task nasty
3:57:20 - task manager
4:00:54 - task bastard
The answer to every question of how Natasha survives is "because she cannot die yet", which results in her being able to do anything the writers and director wants
The thinng is to avoid this wonderful problem they could just avoid putting her through incidents that would obviously kill her. Instead of an explosive arrow blowing up her car he shoots out the tyres and she crashes. You still get a dramatic car crash but she wouldn't obviously be killed by it. Same with the second car explosion, just have them lose control and crash into the subway entrance after losing a tyres and her falling off that building was uneccassary as hell.
The writers of this clearly forgot that apart from being highly trained these black widows are just normal ass humans beings.
Forgot to mention when her normal ass human body gets exploded, crushed THROUGH reinforced floor off the flying base thing and then smashes through fallen debris fighting turbo brainwashed assassin after being beaten down by twenty is highly trained black widows...and isn't altered in anyway.
Like people are imbolised with pain just stubbing their toe, this woman is not human, she is some super durable alien thing.
Which is why her movie should've taken place before Endgame. But with a better story and plot.
Its the same problem people have with Sanguinius in the Horus Heresy books.
*MauLer is 88% of a threat to Disney narrative incohesion.*
Where’s the other 12%?
And yet Disney have no worries turning their back on an angered Long Man, leaving themselves wide open for attack.
@@gameovervirus2384 He made fun of Taskmaster system saying that Natasha is 88% a threat.
@@gameovervirus2384 Pepper got the 12%
@@gameovervirus2384 He’s yet to reach his peak of long. There’s still another 12% left for him to grow.
Her surviving the fall in Budapest, and the fall from the Red Room, really just means she should've survived Endgame.
It's the video game boss dynamic. They can take a meteor to the face during combat and be ok, but a nick from a fingernail during the final cutscene is what kills them.
"WE'LL NEED TO THROW ME AGAIN CLINT!"
Gamora's even more durable tbh. Able to even survive the vacuum of space for a bit.
@@madladdie7069 Gamora isn't human though
Not particular.
“They’ll never know what you sacrificed for them” says the person who directly benefited from what Wanda did
LMAO
LOL 😂
I love how they discovered the hex was mutating the inhabitants and not a single person seemed concerned about that one mutation that kills people slowly and horribly called "cancer" that would be an effective method of giving the story lasting consequences and- no apparently taking all of their freedom away was ok because the only product of a mutation we saw was superpowers, thank you wanda for giving thousands of people superpowers after keeping them hostage for a week
Idk why this still bothers me but I can't get over how Alexi was the perfect character to fight taskmaster because his sober drunken fist can't be copied and would likely confuse the copy cat. Idk how the writers didn't see this easy W to make his character's usefulness in the movie feel complete. But as it is it seems he was just along for the ride and wasn't entirely necessary.
Cus then it would be a man beating up a woman, and dozens of articles clickbaiting a controversy would come out. Your idea is good, but the mouse has to be pure.
Also hes a supersoldier fucking up a lot of counters and combat styles
Can you imagine the moment Task Manager tries to pull some Judo shit and throw Alexi only for him to not even budge, laugh and toss her across the room.
And she keeps trying, cycling through all the 'skilled' moves she's got and he just keeps powering through them.
Leg sweep? Feels like she just kicked a tree stump.
Straight arm bar? He just rolls his shoulders and lifts her off the ground.
Hell she might try BW's hurricanrana only for him to take a step to ground himself and instead of being thrown he drives her into the floor while she's wrapped around his arm.
And then she pulls the sword and he's forced to play defensively, maybe use some equipment around the room and she just cuts through it for the joke, then corral her into position for the cell trap.
@@CrazyGunMan100that would’ve been cool.
@@CrazyGunMan100That would've been too smart for these writers to come up with, way too smart
Aw man. Taskmaster is one of my favorite Marvel villains. In the comics his powers are so ridiculous that as a kid he was able to perfectly mimic an Olympic dive he saw on tv, but then nearly drowned because he didn’t bother to watch someone swim afterwards. He’s just the right mix of completely stupid and complete badass. It’s a shame that this movie’s taskmaster is so bland in comparison.
Woah this would have been amazing. Having him so keen on trying new moves that he doesn't bother watching the clips to their end couldve led to some amazing scenes where he has to improvise suddenly and thus looses an engagement
@@habelu6267 I completely agree. Taskmaster can fight pretty much anyone and win, but his weakness has always been his own overconfidence, and unorthodox strategy. That’s why I’m the comics he hates fighting people who are completely crazy, like Moon Knight.
Here's some world building for ya, see if you like it. What if we had Taskmaster show up as a merc/lieutenant to some of the villains. So he pops up in various films, fights some of the heroes, is ultimately defeated but lives to fight another day. Then, when you build to any kind of team-up movie - Taskmaster would present quite a threat, having fought so many of the heroes and absorbed their fighting techniques. It would be a chance to show a character become more dangerous over time - until he gets to the point where he becomes the main threat. I don't expect the new phase is going to give us anything like that.
@@notareptilianiswear.6600 Taskmaster is also so astutely observant of his opponents that he can actually inform them of flaws in their fighting style and bad habits. In a fight with Deadpool, he kept scoring hit after hit on him, and when asked how he was doing so well against him, Taskmaster simply replied, "You always dodge to the left."
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“This isn’t a passing of the torch, it’s a torching of the past”
So far I think that’s the best summarisation of phase 4 that I’ve heard.
That was a glorious phrasing of the current situation.
I have to agree, that line was fantastic. I also love the "they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." Do not care if it's from Jurassic Park lol.
I think MauLer mentioned during the premiere that he got the quote from a HeelvsBabyface or Nerdrotic stream that he was on or when he had them as guests. I don't remember which.
also sums up star wars, star trek, ghostbusters, terminator, alien, etc. etc.
@Anony-mousse No lol. Not even close
I do find it funny that Nat thinks that Drakov's daughter is "still in there", trying to free her from the mind control (getting past how stupid mind control saving an explosion victim is). Nat exploded her, Drakov's daughter should want to brutally murder Nat regardless of the mind control
She should yeah.
"I know you're still in there, hating me with every fiber of your being, genuinely!..."
That would've been an awesome twist. The last-minute reveal that Taskmaster wasn't under any mind control and had a vendetta with Nat would be amazing.
You just pointed out something very interesting. People who are mad Nat died in Endgame often say: "just because Clint had a family doesn't mean he had more of a right to live" but the fact that he has a family is exactly why Nat wants him to live. She knows what it's like to grow up without a father (which is subtly established in a throwaway line) and she doesn't want Clint's children to go through that pain. You just gave me a newfound appreciation for that scene.
huh it's almost like both characters in the scene are selfless and want to take the sacrifice themselves because they see more good in others than themselves and "deserving to live X amount" never entered the equation.
Whats funny is Gamora was in the past so shouldnt Nat be at the Cliff and simply stop her and give the stone back? Hulk claims her soul to be beyond bringing back yet Gamora is here....who was sacrificed lol
@@kool4209 That's Gamora 2014 though, Hulk tried to bring back the Natasha who sacrificed herself.
@@MercuryAlphaInc No..... they wouldve been able to stop Natasha when returning the Soul Stone........That timeline was created the moment they got that stone..... to return it they would have to go back before.....
@@kool4209 Yeah, no, if they do that then they don't get the stone the first time so they fuck themselves over later.
Then again, their timetravel makes no fucking sense what-so-ever but hey...
I hope they make Black Widow sequels. Many of them. And in each movie, she has to beat the villain by giving herself progressively worse brain damage. That character arc would be amazing.
Hahaha! Omg. Why brain damage though? But ya know what? Knowing Disney and their greed and how stupid phase 4 is they’d probably actually do it. Seriously!
By the fifth installment it'll be called the spastic widow.
@@marlom7882 presumably from severing the nerve in every movie
@@LadySquiffington by the tenth shes a sekiro headless
I hope they make Black Widow sequel so we get more Mauler unbridled.
"Why the fuck does Daffy Duck have a stronger grasp on espionage than Black fucking Widow" beats "Even if 30 years of development explain why Luke is sheepishly sipping milk from a whalish giraffe he is stilldoing it, and that is the problem" as my favourite MauLer quote
Where’d that second quote come from?
There's nothing sheepish about it, it was *INSPIRING* and *BRAVE*
@@stygames5450 the last jedi unbridled rage
At what point in the video does he say that line about Daffy?
@@AB-dm1wz 57:42 is where the Looney Tunes cartoon is brought up.
*"And this idea was presented to us as carefully as buttering your toast WITH AN ANVIL."*
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how absolutely, bizarrely hilarious this line is? It's amazing.
MauLer in a nutshell.
Longman's got that British sense of humour.
*I request a time stamp*
@@remnantamalgam95 2:37
@@SoftisNelaris
*t y*
It’s like each main character is in the same film but somehow a different genre.
•Alexi is in a comedy
•Yelena is in a YA drama thriller
•Natasha is in a superhero action movie
•Melina is playing a scientist in a dark action drama
•And Dreykov feels like some villain from a high octane action series that jumped the shark a few entries ago
Then you have Taskmaster who is wasted as a power-set AND character. Not saying Tony Masters is some brilliant example of flawless character work in the comics but they used his powers, name and basic design and slapped it over a literal fucking drone who ends up being used simply to expunge a chunk of red from Nat’s ledger at the end
Dreykov feels like he’s out of the Golden or Silver Age with how insane and campy he is or a sci-fi TV movie.
Hallmark presents: The Black Widow, a spy-thriller with heart, and comedic moments, like explaining in graphic detail what a hysterectomy is!
I swear I see red every time I hear Monica tell Wanda "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them", moments after these townspeople were finally able to sleep soundly/see their children for the first time in months that were filled with torture and fear inflicted BY WANDA.
Seriously, it drives me insane how they sympathize with her because she gave up her imaginary children she barely knew.
These people had their lives stolen from them and were psychologically tortured for months, not to mention the lasting mental health problems that would follow. All because of Wanda’s sitcom fantasy.
Everything is fine if you consider Wanda is a villian of WandaVision, not Agatha.
@Jarvi Blue villian? No, Monica just has stockholm syndrome in Wanda's presence. Btw, Monica did nothing evil to be a villian as I remember.
Jaque Shaffer is a hack? C'awwwn!
@@Dr.Harvey No it really isn't, because Wanda gets away with it.
The Black Widows are such good spies they wear uniforms with a black widow logo on them.
I swear, they probably watched too many James Bond movies and have completely forgotten what an ACTUAL spy work is.
Wait, what am I saying? They didn't forget, they just never even knew.
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This man casually points out GAPING plot holes that even I feel dumb for not noticing lmao
Don't feel too bad, the movies are designed to quickly speed between points, and throw up distracting smokescreens, allude to answers they never provide, and count on you filling in gaps they couldn't come up with to cover their own messes.
As an aside, possible additional example, and neat video you might like if you like this stuff. There's a Fire Emblem youtuber named Mekkah that did a Plinkett Reviews inspired dissection of Fire Emblem 7, called, iirc, Fire Emblem 7 Is the Worst Thing Since My Son, and that game actually has a lot of similar plot issues, inconsistencies, and trends that a lot of modern films do.
Gaping plot holes, characters with convoluted plans that exist to get characters into place for their dramatic moments, weird have your cake and eat it too portrayal of a faction of assassins as both a lovable band of found family, and a nation toppling shadow council that kills its own for not just failure, but partial success, while also being a highly elite, best of the best that kills the mere best, group that fields small armies of disposable, low skill fodder, moronic, redundant plans to make for setpieces, and more.
Might be neat, even if you don't particularly care for the series, just to see the same flavors in a different medium.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 you saying i should turn of my interlect off in order to watch the movie? Ok👌
Even you???
@@akandeogundimu4541 Maybe you should turn on your “interlect” before writing a comment.
@@akandeogundimu4541 he's saying the movie tries to turn it off itself without giving you a say in the matter
One thing I want to add about that scene with Natasha and Loki is how brilliant the line “this is a child in prayer” is.
On the surface, he’s calling Natasha naive, childish, for hoping she could repair the damage she’s done, which is a good insult. But, it also works on the level where she’s literally making a request of a god. In a sense, she is literally praying to Loki in this very conversation. And finally, it works with how he sees humans, as children who belong on their knees (as in prayer) to the gods.
In one line, he’s insulting her personally, reinforcing her status as beneath him both within the exchange and in general, and sneering about humanity as a whole. Which, of course, demonstrates the arrogance that later leads to him overstepping and revealing his plan.
Late comment, but doesn't it feel nice to reminisce on when movies were written with enough intellect to express multiple philosophies and character traits in 1-2 lines? Good times...
@@imjustbeinghonest2994and these came from fucking superhero movies. Everything pre endgame in marvel is pure brilliant cinema. Besides thor the dark world.
“This isn’t a passing of the torch, but a torching of the past.”
Brilliant line, MauLer.
I have returned
@@teleportdinero Literally who
seriously his videos have more thought put into scripts than the fucking movies LMAO
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
@@alessandrorinaldi842 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
The fact that even the director said "I don't know, she just used her ingenuity I guess" to excuse a massive plot hole they clearly KNEW would be confusing and problematic is just..... amazing. Inspiring really
who needs writing when we can have post movie idiot explanations by the writers that could have fixed it.
Lets have her not leave with her family so later we can say we don't know how she got out of there lol.
It is baffling that anyone involved with the production would admit something like that in front of a camera. Jesus.
Alfred Hitchcock once said “A good movie needs three things: The script, the script, and the script”. There was a time when filmmakers heeded to that guideline. Between filming American Graffiti and principal photography of Star Wars, George Lucas rewrote 30 (3-0) drafts of that film. Contrast that with films nowadays. The Rise Of Skywalker’s shooting script was a first draft. Darren Aronofsky wrote mother! over a weekend. Is quality control not a thing anymore?
It reminds me of how the directors and writers of Endgame were fighting over whether Cap staying in the past and living life with Peggy violated the timeline or created a new reality.
Your conclusion for Alexei perfectly demonstrated how these types of Hollywood writers view men. On the one hand, they hate how distant and emotionless men are, but they also ruthlessly mock any man who tries to share his actual feelings. They just hate men, and use men’s minor flaws as excuses for their hatred
I think the saddest part is the whole "no one would have wanted to see a woman headlining a superhero film back in the day" when in reality fans for YEARS have been asking for, nay PLEADING for a Black Widow film.
But no, the fans are the sexist ones for hating this crappy film, not the producers who had so little faith in a female lead.
Go screw yourselves, Marvel/Disney
Anyway, Great video as always Mauler, and I look forward to the next Marvel dumpster fire review.
The fans had been begging for Black Widow film since 2016 after Civil War.
Then Marvel just gave us Captain Marvel instead.
And when they finally gave us Black Widow, it was 2 years after she was dead and it was mainly YELENA’S movie.
What an insulting way to treated Natasha Romanoff’s character.
@@nont18411Fans have been begging for Nat movie since Avengers Age of Ultron - when Wanda gave Natasha visions of the Red Room. People were genuinely editing "movie trailers" based just on that one scene. It's ridiculous that we got Captain Marvel movie first, considering you don't need the context of her story to understand Endgame at all. Just give us 2 minute explanations of her powers. Nat is not only one of the oldest characters but imo much more interesting and complex.
This film should've obviously been about her severely traumatic training, and how/why Hawkeye got her to flip and join SHIELD. That's it.
And it should've come out between Infinity War and End Game making her sacrifice more poignant
That would mean that she'd have to be led by a MAN. and the crazy feminists wouldn't like that.
Age of Ultron is where we get more insight into Widow's past. It would've been a great idea to put a Hawkeye/Widow origin film before Civil War. But nope gotta throw your female lead into the dumpster fire.
Nah, we had to have PLANK
It's insane how they missed that chance...
this. I need to say nothing more.
Oh god they gave Taskmaster the X-men origins Deadpool treatment. An actual character people like has been turned into a mute mindless drone and the only thing that carried over was, “can fight.”
I remember when i was younger and watched in awe as some strange man in a white cloak and skull mask mirrored an matched Spiderman in straight combat. The only way Spiderman beat him is by using something the man couldn't have expected, and it was clear that Spiderman would slowly run out of options against the unstoppable, learning, evolving monster behind the mask.
A fucking kids show gets Taskmaster right. It makes me sick that they killed him off for a reveal that made no sense. They burnt a perfectly good villain to the ground.
Excluding Zemo, Loki, and Enchantress, who's been absolutely bitch slapped by their shows, they've killed off or pissed on pretty much every villain that's been shown in the MCU.
They'll run out of iconic source villains at this rate.
A smart, wisecracking, mercenary, with skills that can make him alone a match for the likes of Captain America in hand to hand combat, with legendary weapons and gear, made into this.
As a Taskmaster fan, I am officially irate.
yeah and i fucking hate it. Taskmaster has such decent backstory that can be shaped any which way but no, here's a fucking mindless drone action person.
Taskmaster, a villain that's incredibly intelligent yet also surprisingly quirky regarding his various choices of mimicry and prediction for a dangerous yet fun character who the heroes always have to think outside the box to ever hope to beat when encountering him...was reduced to a mentally comatose brainlet that never says a word whose entire power isn't his/hers, but that of a computer chip in a way where "Task-memer" (i refuse to call that embarrassment Taskmaster), can be replaced with literally anyone with said chip in their neck.
Holy shit...not only has Black Widow been reduced to a dime-a-dozen replaceable joke but so has Taskmaster. They replaced him with a fucking computer chip that isn't even a sentient AI or anything.
Ooooo does that mean Task Manager will eventually get his own movie where he's a wise cracking dude making fun of this version? Can't wait!
Imagine scene where Nat tries to free Cringe Dumpster from mind control with juice, just to find out that she was never controlled to begin with and her hate is genuine and Nat can't fix it with juice mcmuffin or any other plot device. And she has to kill that girl now staring in her face. Or let her have her revenge. This movie is just enormous pile of wasted opportunities.
No.
That's my counter. Stop suggesting good things.
being freed from my fathers disgusting mind control will outweigh anything bad you've ever done to me. We're even
The mcu as a whole is a wastes opportunity
@@BhlackBishop "even though it was you that put me in this position because you used me as bait"
@@hk1371 "also how would i have learned to be against my father when i was constantly exposed to brainwashing and indoctrination"
I'm surprised that Mauler missed the obvious trope. The Red Room is explained by him to have kidnapped tens of thousands of young girls to be brainwashed into mindless killers. If that sounds familiar, it's because Disney used the same concept with The First Order.
Holy fuck I didn’t realize that. Thank you
what is the first order, sounds like something from disney star wars
@@MrTeamGuy it’s the shitty not-empire but totally empire clone from the sequels.
@@zacherywaite7463 but does it have a death star tho, or some emperor
@@MrTeamGuy both if you can believe it. They turned Illum into a super-ultra-mega "NOT THE DEATH STAR" that can destroy multiple planets at once from its own system without being anywhere near them by draining its sun to power its laser. They have Snoke who is knockoff Palpatine who is later revealed to be a funky clone-ish creation of Palpatine. Palpatine, believe it or not, ends up "returning" via unexplained life support on a Sith cultist planet in the final movie
Bucky was the only one to actually feel any type of remorse for his actions while brainwashed and that's why I like him so much
@@googlesucks3163 facts. His dialogue in falcon and winter soldier was fucking stupid. He was sidelined and wrote off as a dumb sidekick in his own show. Then made his character apologize for being racist towards Sam when that literally was never an issue before.
@@peterparker9214 I smell a red pilled incel
@@googlesucks3163 when does he ever say sorry for being racist?
@@jamesgratz4771 "guys I called someone an incel pls give reddit gold"
@Punished Phimosis Jones lol triggered?
I just want to remind everyone that, according to Veto's logic, the reason Nat's car didn't explode in the explosion is because the explosion moved the car away from the explosion, thus clearing the car safe of the explosion. By the explosion.
...What? The fuck?
Her gas tank ignites there's no question
I think ill stick with tribnibashabadipressure and babdcalf care
Meanwhile, Dreykov was killed by an explosion because...I guess he was too fat to be safely thrown away from it?
I used the explosion to explode the explosion.
"How do you fuck up tic tac toe, you gnome?" Lol this was hilarious. One of my favorite lines in this review, along with the Taskmaster names.
I swear Natasha had severe plot armor. Even steroids Harry Osborne in Spiderman 3 didn't TANK his fall like that. He legit passed out and lost his memories
And stopped breathing. Peter had to take him to the hospital to save his life, Widow didn’t even break anything
She should’ve died in literally all the movie she’s played in. Especially when she hijacks one of those speeding hovercraft in avengers 1? Should’ve straight up killed her on impact.
I miss those movies.
That's because, in spite of it's flaws, Spider-Man 3 is a better movie in every conceivable regard. The generally agreed upon low-point of the original Spider-Man movies is still miles above... Can we just say most of the post-Infinity War MCU?
David Harbour actually suggesting Alexei should sing American Pie to Yelena and it wasn’t actually in the script. This just shows that the writers had no clue how these characters should operate. The fact that the actor knew how to make a meaningful moment and the writers didn’t is insane.
Difference between someone with good parents and someone with none. Sad actually.
These Movies aren't written by storywriters but activists
exactly! how does a fucking bystander outperform trained professionals?
Speaks *tremendously* doesn’t it?
It’s almost as if he’s spent most of his career playing surrogate father figures like Hopper in Stranger Things and knows what he’s doing.
Look I don’t like the guy but I appreciate his craft when it comes to acting and I genuinely think Alexei had potential if the writers cared.
Like that scene is really good and showed that Alexei cared about his surrogate daughters in a really sincere and touching way. A commie super soldier singing a song literally called “American Pie” because some kid pretending to be his child liked it.
It was quite possibly the only scene I liked in this film and the fact that it wasn’t even intended at the start is the most bittersweet thing I’ve ever heard.
Imagine if Alexei had to fight task master mimicking Cap. That would be an actual conclusion to an arc of him lying about having fought him, only to have to fight him "for real"
ONE MORE FOR THE FANS!
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But that would mean character development. And we all know that Alexei's role is nothing but slapstick and being constantly thrown under the bus.
@@dannypalin9583 Painfully accurate
I watched a video that he fought "a cap" but it may not have been "the cap" it seems likely that was the case to me
I'm not entirely sure he is lying about him though. I mean look at how he asked Natasha if he ever talked about him, I really think he does believe that he once fought Cap. My theory is that they'll eventually introduce the William Burnside Captain America (a retconned character Marvel came up with to explain the Captain America comics from the 1950's, when he would have been frozen), saying that he took up Cap's mantle during the final years of the Cold War to go on covert missions.
On the subject of Loki. Anyone remember when he was smart enough to take advantage of Thor’s fear and adrenaline in the first Avengers to get him trapped in Hulk’s cell? We’d be lucky to get something as good as that now.
Also blue hair on a 90's kid was pretty rare and exactly what you WOULDN'T do if you were trying to blend in
Pretty rare? Nobody had blue hair back then. Maybe 1 autistic kid with socially awkward parents. :D
And then she got bullied so hard, she got a buzz cut to make it stop, would be my assumption.
Not really once grunge came in it was everywhere in my school at that age and i grew up in a small hick town
@@godshand6822 That kinda gives context to Smells Like Teen Spirit playing in the opening.
"How do you fuck up tic tac toe!?"
It's this attention to detail that keeps me coming back
"How do you fuck up tic tac toe"?
I think you just gave away the first question they ask when they interview you for the job of directing a Marvel movie.
"This isn't a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past."
Hot damn that's a good line. And applicable to so many modern sequels and spinoffs.
Applicable to pretty much anything in the modern day
@@Rinesmyth there are good movies and songs and all types of art created in the modern age. It’s just that people tend to gravitate towards the popular thing. You just have to dig deep to find gold.
@@DevolaPopola I don’t even know if we can assume people gravitate to what’s popular… I think that’s just what we get saturated with, sadly.
Like a mountain of shit is hiding a small pile of gold.
@@DevolaPopola oh without a doubt there's still gold in the river, but that gold is now but a few crumbs, and it dwindles by the day; unless there's a gold streak a mile deep, waiting to be found, not much more will come from the stream.
@@DevolaPopola Like what? Songs, sure, there's a few. But films? Nah. A rare few European indie productions, that's about it. I was born in 2001, and even I'm wondering what the fuck happened to masterpieces like The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly, and Schindler's List. What's the best film past 2010? Joker? I'd say so. That's about the only good film in over a decade, one that genuinely had me shaken in awe and completely satisfied with what I'd witnessed.
And ironically the film was made on a $10M budget instead of a $150-450M one. It was also made by a director who specifically made it because he was a comedian, and in this cancerous woke era, comedy isn't allowed because it's offensive. When you read the backstory, you basically discover that Todd Phillips is Arthur in that film. The film is good because it deliberately and fiercely rejected the same toxicity that poisons nearly all other productions these days. It is a rare exception made on purpose. We likely won't see that again until the entire culture changes, if it ever does which looking at it isn't likely.
She's portrayed as if she had the super soldier serum like the comics despite never recieving it in the MCU. She is a normal human yet she can somehow take blows like Captain America at times.
I fell about 3 feet and landed on my hip, I could barely walk for a few days. Pretty cool how these tough women walk off everything
I think Midnight's edge said he fell off of his bike while standing still and he had to be hospitalized. These movies would be better if they let the stuntmen write them.
If a fall hits just right it will annihilate you entirely
My great-grandmother fell through two floors when she was young. My great-grandfather was building a house and she fell through a weak spot in the floors. It f*cked up her back for the rest of her life. My point is, Natasha would have been f*cked up by that fall. She’s not superhuman like Steve, who barely walked off the fall from the Shield tower and almost died when he fell from the helicarrier in Winter Soldier.
Mauler's different names for Taskmaster are funnier and more interesting than anything in the movie.
If mauler's jokes are more interesting than the movie, you know it's shit.
Hands down the highlight of the entire movie. Mauler could make a movie just mocking taskmaster and pull in more revenue then this shit show.
@@lqlaliut897 well I mean to be fair mauler’s insults are legendary. I think he called someone brain dead muffin I love it
@@marlom7882 let’s not forget mongaloidic bum cheese and cock salad.
@@sithisarcanis love it
"The only natural resource the world has too much of...GIRLS"
I'm sorry that's the funniest line in cinema. Did a Saturday morning cartoon bully write that? 🤣
Either that or someone on Twitter who is against gender equality
@@MariOmor1 more like someone writing a straw-man to tear down
Heck,I love the womens.
Is it me or it has "the most oppressed group of all - GAMERS'' vibes.
Sounds like a quote from an incel.
Do the writers not realise that just because you destroyed your sense of smell doesn't mean nerve agents can no longer effect you?
They actually got that bit from one of Natasha’s comics.
EDIT - Black Widow: Homecoming AKA Black Widow Vol 3, 006.
@@Gemini053 damn that makes this even worse, why would you copy a stupid thing from the comics?
@@Soapy-chan_oldBecause comics reference🗿
@@shamrockgaming9505 ah right, my bad 😜
@@Soapy-chan_oldalmost every single mcu movie gets its main plot from the comics
Do note the olfactory nerve gets triggered when breathing through your mouth. You may not recognize the smell through your mouth but pheromones or sorts would still register. This means that no smacking her head on the table would do nothing she is 100% still under his control in that scene. Unless, of course, as you mentioned, she gives herself severe brain trauma trying to severe the nerve.....but then she'd be knocked out on the floor and the movie ends.
Oh my God. MauLer you are the ONLY person I've seen call out the fact that Marvel keeps having their heroines literally cheer while causing actual mass murder. My circle of friends and family never react to this the way I do. Thank you so much.
THAT'S SO WOMEN!!
Wasn't it Hunger Games wherein female resistance leader bombed women/kids to frame the govt to gain power?
Also, abortion.
@Jarvi Blue
What became of the female scientist in Wonder Woman?
If memory serves, she too was spared cos "men made her do evil deeds"...
Just hit Mauler describing the mom/Raquel Weiss - villain personified, plays the victim though actively victimising, created a device to make people do what she wants...
It’s shocking to have someone murder hundreds then cheer whilst doing so. You’d expect it to be somber, quiet and whilst a bit relieved the action is over in thought. A moment of silent, a reflection inwards. Instead it’s like WOOO EXPLOSIONS. Which can work in some movies but not when you know these characters, not when you’ve been through what they’ve been through and what their story and lore is. Be consistent with a characters legacy or just fuck off and start a new character like they clearly not. Don’t use the prior characters legacy as a jump board to launch your new character to the forefront it’s disrespectful to what came before
@@darrengordon-hill no wonder Katniss killed her.
One of the most offensively bad parts for me was when they turned the sterilisation of the sister into a joke/gross-out gag. Regardless of your thoughts on this in real life, in the context of the films, this was something Natasha struggled with really hard and had a very poignant scene with Bruce I think talking about it. It's almost like they're trying to sabotage everything they've done on purpose at this point.
I hate to sound like a conspiracy nut, but I remember a while ago there was some Twitter Drama over that aspect of Natasha's character. The writer of an article (if I remember correctly) essentially said that it was a message to young girls and women that you aren't a real woman if you can't have kids. Thus, this aspect of Natasha's character was reductive, sexist and should not be tolerated. Of course I don't believe that, but it could be due to this kind of percieved backlash that they played off references to her being infertile as a joke. Bringing this kind of idea seriously, into your strong wamen protagonist film, would not get the feminists on side.
@@AsperTheGhost I've seen that too. I can't remember exactly where I heard this, but I think some people have indeed praised this film for referencing the sterilization only as a joke.
@@jonathandunston6816 If they have praised it for that, as Mauler said, they aren't morally intelligent enough to watch Postman Pat.
Yeah, I don't know how it is cool to joke about a woman who had her body mutilated against her will.
I can't sympathize since I just sterilized myself recently
I've always loved the trope of "Everyone is sedated when they go in or out so they don't know the location." Okay, but WHO is drugging them and transporting them? Unless you have a situation where robots are doing it, you clearly DO have people who are aware of the location. Also, people obviously fly in things like food, drinks, blankets, dildos, pharmaceuticals, etc. And who would you rather know your location; your mind-controlled super-soldiers with remote kill-switches, or random pilots you recruit? Unless they mind-control the pilots too, but if you trust them because they mind-controlled, then why wouldn't you trust the widows with the same mind control? This comes up in various stories and it always amuses me to think the super-duper spies or soldiers can't be trusted, but the guy piloting or driving the supply vehicles? He's cool.
I wonder how this film would have turned out if it just simply explored Nat and Clint's adventures in Budapest, would have given much needed development to Hawkeye and done a great justice to Natasha and Scar Jo.
My biggest problem with Taskmaster/Drakov's daughter was she has a legitimate reason to want to kill Natasha. Making it resolve by she was just under mind control was such a missed opportunity. For a movie about Natasha trying to clear her ledger, it was the perfect opportunity to have Natasha face the reality that not all of her victims would forgive her just because she said she was sorry. I would have loved for Drakov's daughter to keep trying to kill Natasha after Natasha threw the magic gas in her face. The movie needed that, among the myriad of things also listed in this review.
Pretty similar to Tony wanting to kill Bucky for murdering his.parents despite knowing Bucky was under mind control and would have been a bittersweet end to her lesson. Sad they didn't think that.
Because wahmen have to stick together👱♀️👩🦰👩
that's amazing. what a great idea.
"I sprayed the fart gas in your face, you're free now!"
"Don't care. Hop on the sword."
Kind of like Bucky’s abandoned arc in Falcon and Winter Soldier, where he had his list of people he owed redemption to for his crimes. Which was great, until it was dropped and barely acknowledged in the finale.
The hints they gave to Natasha's past in the previous movies were great, made the "Red Room" sound terrifying and mysterious. This movie took that entire idea of a super secret and torturous assassin organization and turned them into clowns in a flying clown castle.
Leave it to Disney to totally kneecap a potentially badass backstory opportunity.
It’s funny because in Agent Carter they briefly visit the red room and it’s terrifying
They did? That's interesting, I was really hoping they'd make the Red Room some kind of generic Cold War bunker or some mansion in the mountains. Not a shitty flying turd.
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@Knox2Don Now wouldn't THAT have been a movie?!?!?! Could you imagine? Us getting a movie surrounding everything that happened with Natasha growing up? We could've seen her grow up in that torturous hell hole known as the Red Room and see her evolve into the cold assassin she started off as before Clint got to her. It would've been a great psychological drama but since it was Disney, NOOOOOOO.
What a WASTED opportunity.
@@tashaglam4824 I think that's an interesting point made by (I believe) MauLer and others like E;R. More often than not, a backstory is not relevant to the story at hand. Anything we can fathom of the Red Room would likely be more terrifying than whatever they put to the screen. Prequels are so often worse than their original work because they fill in holes our collective imaginations can fill in better, and often are irrelevant to the story being told. They try to do something like Dottie in Agent Carter, but usually end up doing a Nick Fury's eye in Captain Marvel.
It was kinda painful to watch Black Widow being so different in this movie ,she almost feel like another person. During most of the MCU she was funny, charismatic, and seductive, but not anymore. That was a terrible way to say goodbye to an iconic character.
Black Widow in this movie is dumber than a Boy Scout Captain America in his first movie.
Another point is how Natasha went unrecognized, not only when she was the most famous, and the most wanted, but she's attractive. People always pay more attention to attractive people, especially attractive women, so the likelihood of being recognized was extremely high.
Now this shouldnt be a problem for her, masks, makeup etc. should allow her to avoid pursuers easily.
But they just dont do that cause brainrot
Seriously, why wasn’t this movie just a prequel? We could’ve watched a tense, emotional, action-packed movie about Clint and Natasha meeting and then working together to take down Drakov. It would properly set up her character arc in the future and give us a good farewell, knowing what she will accomplish in the future. Instead we got this lol
And get more character from Clint but nooooooooo
Can't launch new chars this way.
at least no one was crying over this like they were with Black Panther. and thats the reason this movie is okay....no one expected anything from it, and no one sold it as anything great. it is what it is....unlike black panther, which was a trash-heap sold as a gem that soooo many ppl had been waiting all these years for. why mauler spent so much time on this movie, i dunno...
Seems like no one really gets this but this is a women-power-movie. It sacrifies everything in order to have "strong independent females". You can't put a normal man in such a movie, especially not as a protagonist.
To prove my point, lets see which men are in the movie:
1) Antagonist: a women hating and hitting choleric
2) Red Guardian: dumb fat pig, only cares about himself and about fighting, neglegted his family
3) Helicoper Delivery Guy: "the good man" who does everything for women with no gain at all, white knight, typical friendzone material
This movie just hates men and ruins the entire plotline multiple times just to picture men as useless, stupid and women as the only answer to everything (while also protraying them as mindcontrolled victims for some reason).
It's garbage, don't think about it. It's the same as suicide squad, female ghost busters version, parts of the series "(teen) titans" (on netflix) and so, so many others. Even Star Wars went down this road atleast partially.
Wouldn't be a problem if the movies were good, but for some reason, they are all complete garbage. Maybe the ones making those movies "for women" actually think that women don't care about logic? IDK.
@Brad Thomas Kinda reminds me of Rian Johnson's take on multiple of the women he directed. Especially Holdo and Rose as is originals.
You know you’ve been around this channel for a while when you’re not even looking at the screen, but you can still “hear” Mauler playing the green milk clip.
"anyway"
UGGUGUGUGUGUGU
*sigh with Tony Stark eye roll* is one too
The GOT dude stare
Srsly, WHAT THE F***??? :D
I can't even watch that clip without hearing "what the FUCK"
I don't think you'll ever see this, but I wanna be serious about something. You've really helped me see a lot of issues in story telling and a lot of important notes. Before I didn't even notice more than half of these issues in the movie, mainly because I was brain dead throughout its entirety lol. As someone who wants to write stories in the future, whether or not making good ones (I hope they'll be good), I gotta say your channel was still a lot of help with teaching me what to do and what not to. And I appreciate that, genuinely.
Same! He helped me a lot too.
He didn't help me one bit, except with knowledgeable critiques and writer fixes.
Same my thoughts and way of looking at things drastically improved after i started watching movie critics like mauler, critical drinker the closer look etc.
Why are you waiting? Start now!
The most unbelievable part of black widow is how ALL the data on mind control is stored on a floppy disk. They could only hold a maximum of 2MB.
The people who made the movie think a floppy disk is huge because their own brains can only hold a fraction of 2MB.
A Flash Drive would've been more believable.
Worst part is that floppy disks are outdated and nobody would use them in 2016
@@daniquemaxwell5070 U.S Goverment was using floppys for Nuclear launch codes as late as 2019.
@@DisplayThisOkay That's really questionable and laughable ngl
The scene where Natasha sploojes the Anti-Brainwashing sparkles in Antonia's face would have been so much more impactful if it had had no effect. If the entire movie we had gotten used to the fact that this substance was an instant-character change pixie dust, but here in the climax we discover that Antonia wasn't brainwashed, she just loved her evil father and hated the assassin who tried to kill her to get to him. What a twist!
Yup, they could have even milked it with a sequel too if they went with it. But that requires writing talent and removing wokness from the script, something phase 4 certainly lacks in the former.
Yes! I like that idea.
I got chills reading this. That's a fantastic idea.
@@harlan7012 let’s not write off all of phase 4. Although wandavision was awful and FATWS was subpar, lowkey was pretty good and I heard Shang chi was great
I thought this same thing about the mist not working on her. Not that she likes killing but bc her father installed a different type control on her that can't be reversed
"if you think they deserve it because they are prisoners or law enforcement, then you aren't mature enough to watch postman pat." Epic line
I'm going to use this one XD
This is true, if Marvel was smart, they'd do a complete reset. Aka.... start with a singular small story that balloons to something huge while still connected to the past..
It wasn't a matter of deserve, the character wasn't trying to start an avalanche, it's just a thing that happened. Not sure why such a concept is so hard to understand.
@@TheGkmasta If you throw a ball and it hits somebody on the head which causes them to stumble on the street to be crushed to a bloody pulp by a SemiTruck, would you argue that its just a thing that happened? It was a consequence of their Actions. Not sure why such a concept is so hard to understand.
@@adrenjones9301 whoops
Considering how intelligent Black Widow (supposedly) is and the fact she’s already been through the “operation continues after the Big Bad died” with Cap when he claimed “Hydra died with the Red Skull”, there is absolutely no way she would think the Red Room would’ve stopped simply because the lead guy behind it was dead.
Your breakdown of the Natasha vs. Loki interrogation was actually beautiful. That was already an amazing scene but the sheer depth of each action was lost on me. You have improved a movie I already know and love, thank you.
It was one of my favorite moments in a great movie. I didn't see the one already in the Playlist, but Mauler's breakdown would've made a fine addition to One Marvelous Scene.
I remember a scene from Captian America: Winter Soldier, where WS's bullet literally graze next to Black Widow's neck. The absolute TERROR is her eyes from almost dying right there was such a small yet brilliant moment.
Fast forward to 2021, Black Widow apparently got access to vibranium suit and vibranium sunscreen that absorbs 99.9% of damage🤦
When Bucky was firing at her and she was running in the streets, she screamed for people to get out of the way. Here, we have her leveling that prison without a second thought. They gave her the Wonder Woman war chrimhinhal (remove Hs) treatment.
friendly tip, you said a bullet LITERALLY grazes next to her neck? she got shot in the shoulder man. If you want people to take your terrible takes seriously you need to learn how to not be hyperbolic when standing on a soap box
@@TheBritainboy k
@@TheBritainboy isnt the shoulder next to neck, well at least mine is
Let's not pretend that character's bodies being apparently made out of granite in the MCU is something new or that you ever felt that anyone is in any danger at any point. In Civil War, if I remember correctly, she is dropped into an armored car together with a grenade, it blows up - tearing the armored door from its hinges - and she falls out unharmed with just some soot on her face. If a grenade at point blank range in an enclosed space doesn't do that trick, why would you think that anything does?
Probably the most fundamental and disrespectful thing this travesty of a movie did was stomp on the back of Black Widow well after the character died, and made her the most boring Widow of them all, in attempt to propel her sister character into the spotlight. Cynical and manipulative.
Bucky got more respect than Natasha... I like both, but man oh man that realisation stings.
And seeing how many people claimed the sister was the best part. They may have gotten away with it.
@@hobodog7758
Well, it's acceptable on a subjective level...
Like, don't take it the wrong way, it's still sub-par caracters with caked-on cutesy humor with lamp-shading galore, yet "compared to the rest" I can see why most people would find something likable in this generic "snarky little sister" type.
It's not like those cray-cray saying they loved brutal Wonder Woman in Snyder Cut "because the normal one is too weak sauce". That I'll never understand.
Ps: Anyone can enjoy either versions of Wonder Woman, sure, but people saying all she was missing was to start busting skulls weren't paying attention, she was always doing it... They just wouldn't paint the walls red in the other movies/versions.
Just wanted to be precise.
But that shouldn’t be possible! Only male characters get made incompetent and character assassinated for new female characters
@@marlom7882
"Tell that to Natasha/Zod's snapped neck!"
Bilbo Skywalker
Sad how Loki could go toe to toe with the Captain America and Thor, but in his show he got beaten up by everyone.
His powers are not consistent and the middle portion of the show - which is badly written - can't make up its mind.
He levitates an entire building in one scene. But gets beat up in hand to hand in another.
Also - don't pretend Avengers 1 makes sense exactly - I notice how you left out that he was helplessly smashed by the Hulk in the famous puny God scene. But - he can LIFT A BUILDING with his mind [????]
@@summertyme5748 Another idiot holding the writing of prequel responsible for the screw up of sequel.
He was treated as a joke from the start.
@@summertyme5748 You see, Avengers 1 makes sense if you ignore the Loki series.
Yeah they basically emasculated him to prop up Sylvie. When, in fact, 2012 Loki should have been the one going rogue on the TVA. They took him, showed him a magical TV that had key character development moments for the real Loki who died at Thanos’ hands and somehow he’s soft and regretful for what he’s done? 😐😔
The rage Mauler had when Task Manager pulled out a gun was hilarious
That little "fuck you" had me rolling.
This movie did not deserve a 4 hour breakdown. Not because "long video bad" but because thats more effort than went into writing the script.
Fully agree
But I won’t complain with quality like this!
never a reason to not make something of high quality, in a way I like that more because it's a spit in the face of this joke of a movie
“Go back to sleep drinker” that killed me 😂😂😂😂
This movie made me want to drink a bottle of Toilet Duck and go back to sleep.
The greatest sin of the avalanche scene is that it would take very little effort to fix it.
All you need to do is have Natasha be horrified at what they've just done only for Alexi to explain that the prison was actually built over an old Soviet bunker complete with food and water, and the prisoners will be fine.
This could even be a strong character moment for Yelena. You could say that she didn't know about the bunker and she caused the avalanche anyway because she still relies heavily on her red room training, and that training involves completing the mission without regard for collateral damage. She could be horrified when Natasha points out the implications of what she's done because she just didn't think about it in the moment, because she was trained not to think about it. It would allow the process of recovering from what the red room did to her to be more complex than just breathing in some gas, and allow us to explore the real horror of what the red room turned Yelena into.
Instead of doing that, the writers had Alexi congratulate Natasha and Yelena for having killed a huge number of people. He isn't specifically congratulating them for killing the prisoners, but it still leaves the audience with the very strong impression that they did kill all the prisoners.
It would’ve been so easy to fix.
Marvel does have a serious problem with trying to justify harmful actions by claiming actions taken to stop that harm is hypocrisy.
"I'm punching you, I'm punching you!"
"Now I punch you back, you shouldn't punch!"
"A-HA! You punched me back and now you're a hypocrite!"
"Drats! I've been had! I'm DEFEATED!!!"
At least in Captain America: the Winter Soldier, Natasha had the basic knowledge of attempting to blend with a crowd and wearing a hood, which she could have tried let alone disguising herself
Those magic „I get another person's face and voice masks" would have been mighty useful throughout her undercover time...
Widow calling herself Black Widow would be like Finn in SW calling himself “Stormtrooper” to remind himself of his time as a brainwashed child soldier/killer.
Its the "ghost of spartha" all over again...only worse
@@SIGNOR-G Ghost of Sparta?
The only character I knlw with that nickname is Kratos, and he diesnt use it for himself.
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 didnt he used it some times? There was even a spin off called like that
@@SIGNOR-G Others called him that.
The spinoff was a psp game featuring his brother if I remember right.
Or Captain marvel wearing the kree symbol on her outfit even after she knows that the kree are evil but she keeps it in the comics and so on.
We need the Warbird outfit back.
"This phase is not about passing the torch but torching the past.'
Brilliant.
One thing that sort of bothers me is that the red juice was only supposed to be for mind control of the Widows. Natasha did still almost kill Drakov's daughter, severely disfiguring her in the process. Then Natasha did kill her father, whether his daughter knows that yet or not. I'm not sure this would make her instant friends with Natasha just because she was no longer under the influence of the red juice. Personally, if someone attempted this same violence against me and my family, I might still hold a bit of a grudge, especially if I was pretty much raised from childhood as an assassin.
None of this still makes anything Drakov did right, but family is still family (just ask Vin Diesel).
I dunno, if she's in there, knowing her dad is a monster who has been controlling her mind for years, she might have long since gotten over what happened to her as a kid.
"How do we get this Tony Masters guy to believably be an agent of the Red Room"
By... by paying him.
He's a mercenary.
I even saw one person say that they could have paid Taskmaster to train the Widows cause of his skills. How did they fuck this up so bad?
@@Nassit-Gnuoy it’s not about logic, it’s about replacement. They wanted a sympathetic woman in the role because you can’t redeem a white man. They just needed to hammer that fucking subtle abuse of women theme in as hard as possible.
A masked man...
@@JeffTheBunnySlayer If anyone had an issue with Taskmaster being white, they could've based his appearance on his Ultimate Universe counterpart (he looks... Hispanic in that 1610 version?). But yeah, him being hired as a trainer would have been several thousand times better. And if you wanted to add some intrigue (as well as a nod to his role as a SHIELD Agent), you could intergrate his history with Natasha with him not remembering her at all. Maybe Natasha is aware that because of his powers, Taskmaster is still technically a SHIELD Agent but doesn't know it? Plus the film would've been a great oppurtunity to seed the idea of a future school where Taskmaster teaches other villians to fight using the styles of the Avengers!
@@Nassit-Gnuoy Fuck, he could just have been paid for, oh i don't know, *protecting the main bad guy* , that already would've been more logical.
I love how the Netflix Daredevil and Punisher series depicts damage to normal human hero's better then this multimillion dollar movie. In Daredevil episode 2 he nearly dies at the beginning and near the end he has to fight a warehouse full of gang members while barely being able to stand and only winning due to superior training. At the end of The Punisher season 1 he barely survives torture due to sheer rage, desire for revenge and a shot of adrenalin and still he was extremely messed up. In this humans are falling off buildings and getting up like they just tripped on the ground.
Not just falling off buildings, but surviving point blank explosions and extremely strong strikes and collisions that would break bone.
@@AzureRoxe break bones? it would pulverize them. as someone who broke his arms multiple times i know how easy it is to break a bone or two. their bones should be a very thin dust or shrapnel firing through their bodies and ripping them apart from the inside. they should have been broken beyond repair after the first explosion, not fine after the thenth.
Don't forget about the significant amount of time it took for Daredevil and Punisher to heal from those injuries. Matt spent half a season unable to do much more than lay around after Nobu messed him up. Why can writers not understand that the possibility of death or injury makes the stakes higher thus increasing the suspense while making the character impervious to injury makes it a cartoon.
Ahh Daredevil, an absolute masterpiece
@@christopher-ge4tj agreed
Man, remember that battle between thanos, the avengers and every faction dedicated to the avengers. Would have been real useful to have those thousands of master assassins
Especially if they had guns
Well as we can see, they're not really master assassins, but rather, clowns in black suits.
By the way, the movie must be pretty fun to watch while listening to circus soundtrack.
It’s genuinely disturbing that so many writers show us horrifyingly monstrous, villainous behavior, only to then tell us it’s totally ok cuz… they eventually… stopped? Huh
"Phase 4 isn't passing of the torch. It's torching of the past."
The Longman is a goddamned poet.
Expect he didn't come up with that line; he got it from a superchat.
@@mr.barcode3186 cudos to the super-chatter, then. Chat has it's moments.
@@mr.barcode3186 superchat-kun is a god-damned poet.
As if the other phases were good?
@@CabezasDePescado Most were entertainment that anyone could enjoy at least.
People shit on Mauler for always being so negative but I don't think I could call anyone a bigger superfan of the properties he roasts than him. He has extensive knowledge and love for these movies and characters and you don't spend 4 and a half hours bitching about something you don't absolutely adore. Good video.
He's always been very open about not doing videos on movies he does not care about.
I was going to say lol that makes so much sense now
I used to be an avid MCU fan and then I felt they weren’t going any sensible direction. Good to know it wasn’t just me. Mauler’s got a very fanatic view of this world and now we all feel the same sinking sense of cringe at the squeezing of the money sponge.
I think they do a better than reasonable job at continuity despite a demanding fan base though, and make a concerted effort to balance things where they need balance, but you can’t please everyone and trying to hurts the integrity of the films. It might just be Disney, look at Star Wars, they basically copied episode 4 and dumped a Mary Sue in there and then just sort of minimally wrote scripts glazed over with amazing (mostly) special effects and took advantage of fan loyalty in every possible way, but did them no justice at the same time imo. Disney has lots of money and always some kind of agenda, are they the EA of movies, I wonder?
Average MCU fan vs Average animated marvel enjoyer
Haven't seen the whole video yet so not sure if you talk about this, but my biggest issue was the heavy russian accents. Nobody in the film had a reason to use one as the parents used to be double agents and spoke fine english early in the movie and the sister was also 'super spy' AND lived early years of her life in US. They all clearly could speak english without accent, but for some reason they CHOSE to use it. Nobody would EVER do that.
I think one of the saddest things was their handling of taskmaster, because I distinctly remember watching this animated “Avengers assemble” show when I was younger and really really liking him. Like, to the point where I made an oc who was, like, his daughter, because I thought he was so cool. Then, seeing him in the trailers, I was hyped, because there must have been something special about him if I liked him better than Spider-Man. And then I watched the movie. And it got to the bridge scene, I was hyped seeing him use moves that were vaguely reminiscent of cap and Hawkeye, and then copying Nat’s moves.
And then they vanished for basically the rest of the movie. I hoped we would get some of his intelligence from the series, but nah, she was mute and mind controlled. What a fucking disappointment.
Um excuse me are you my clone? Because you sounds exactly how I feel in love with Taskmaster and how I was disappointed in his appearance in the move (the only difference is that I found him thanks to Ultimate Spider Man and that I made oc who was his niece)
Hon, if anything *you* are *my* clone. But yeah, Mary Sue OC’s go
@@charlesashton3757 I remember time when I was ashamed of my OCs because of the bashing Mary Sue OC's and was afraid of showing them
@@dejmira I mean, looking back I wish I had that restraint, because the shit I wrote on Wattpad, especially the stuff that I never published, is just… it took me like two hours to summarize the convoluted plots of the duology I wrote
And some stuff in old notebooks I found is even worse
@@charlesashton3757 Yeah sometimes when we look back at the things we did when we where kid is...... well painful
As thick of a plot armor Batman has, in Justice League: Unlimited, he at least has the self-awareness to call in other members of the Justice League while in freefall to save him, admitting, "I can't fly."
I guess he should've spawned a parachute.
How DC can produce JLU/JL comics and also produce the DCEU is a thing to be investigated... scientifically.
@@anomonyous oh for sure, I was just referencing that one episode he had to jump out of a jet without any flying gadgets in JLU
@@Willowy13 Different people. That's how. That and also less meddling from higher ups.
@@Willowy13 absolute TRUTH. It's a stonishing to me how the DC animated stuff can be so good, yet their live action stuff SO BAD...
The plot armor for pain tolerance in Black Widow, she has more of a pain tolerance than the freaking Punisher, who’s superhuman in pain tolerance.
I always love watching mauler’s unbridled rages, because I can basically watch the bad movie and understand all the major plot points while also being entertained.
In a way, it'll be better than the movie itself
@@innoillust
Never finished.
Lost me at "falls 7 stories, hitting multiple vents on the way down".
4hrs of Mauler is an unearned blessing in comparison
Yeah, a much better use of my time than watching the movie.
You get three times the runtime for none of the cost and it is fun instead of agonizing. Thumbs up.
As Hollywood has continually dropped the ball for the last decade, I've told my friends "I get more entertainment out of watching youtubers and content creators complaining and critiquing movies, and the inevitable shitshow that ensues after on social media from the cast and crews of said shitshows than the actual movie itself"
His videos are some of the best and most perfect examples and exactly what comes to mind.
She's such a good character and actor. That's why when I heard my buddies talking about the black widow movie, it made me sad.
Made me sad because I knew the studio would just botch it up and make a strong female lead look incompetent and betray her character from previous iterations and then blame negative criticism as "Hate and sexism".
They keep doing it to good potential female leads and it's like... why can't they just make a movie like they do with men but just have a woman as the lead ya know? Her gender doesn't have to be her damn story. Make it irrelevant until the end of the character construction. Then add that the character is a female.
Right, so typical with victimhood culture nowadays that people define themselves and others in terms of how whatever group they belong to is mistreated by another group. Stop making every female lead's story essentially be "I couldn't succeed because I'm a woman and man bad, but then I won anyway so take that men"
And the villain HAD to be primarily sexist as well.
Hearing Mauler break down the interrogation scenes from Avengers only makes me want a full breakdown from him even more
Imagine being a biggest worldwide media corporation in 2021, and yet use the same 90's style "sp00ky s0v1et mumbling" instead of normal russian
they couldve at least gone all the way and have them speak in heavy-style broken english, that wouldve at least been entertaining smh
Typical Hollywood
@@unpopularopinions7407 "Some people think they can outsmart me, maybe, *sniff* maybe.
But I have yet to one who can outsmart Big smell"
-Dreykov Baggins
For real the accents sound horrible
Borscht Baba Yaga’s babushka, comrade.
You know, everyone hates that Yelena killed hundreds of prisoners and guards so easily and thoughtlessly but maybe it could work to her advantage. It's been drilled in her to do whatever it takes to complete a mission. It's all she's ever known. These guards are obstacles in the way of her mission so she chooses to just kill them all.
It could be eye-opening to Natasha to be like, "You're supposed to be a hero now, this isn't what heroes do. We don't kill everyone in our way. This isn't the red room anymore." It could shake her, make her wonder if she can trust her sister.
I don't know, if could be an interesting development.
I agree. I never had a problem with Yelena because to me that's just her personality, she's never had to be a good person. Her LEARNING to be one is a good character arc, I think.
And it could be fixed if Natasha called 911 (or 112 in Russia) and told them the prison coordinates to dig them out...
You don't kill hundreds of prisoners and prison guards AFTER the guy you wanted to rescue has been rescued, that's asinine. Also it happened due to an unforeseen event, her mistake was to laugh about it and not try to help.
*listens to this while at work*
"Oh he finished the plot of the film, should be wrapping up soon"
*opens the app and sees run time*
"Holy sh!t there's more ?"
I love you mauler 🥰
A year later and watching a clearly Male stunt man being task master that turns out to be a smaller female is still hilarious
You're telling me they couldn't figure out how to use Taskmaster without making him a "goon?" lmao.. What about.. You know, what he does in the comics--train people. You literally have an entire army of widows to train.
No no no my friend Disney can't have a man telling the women what to do from a position of experience it would upset the girl power narrative! - (Some chicom probably)
Not in the M-She-U Phase Bore. Men are there to be used as comic relief and to be humiliated by the strong, independent women.
Yelena suffers from the same issues as Finn in TFA. Both are basically highly indoctrinated child soldiers who know nothing but military style drill. Both somehow grew up to be quite the goofballs.
...as someone who loves Yelena you are absolutely right 😫
Difference is, Yelena at least made herself much more useful
@@harrambou9468 Hey! That's cuz Finn was against the Chinese overlords. There's no way the studio would allow him to shine.
This being completely unnatural and unreal outcome for anyone with any experience in real life.
Imagine the storytelling potential if the writers of these shit films actually played into the idea of Finn and Yelena having severe mental trauma and PTSD from their time as cold blooded killers. The writers are so braindead that they try to make them comic relief despite having a good character arc being possible through their tragic backstories.
And yet she also borrows from Rey. Natasha was disrespected in much the same way as luke skywalker in order to push Yelena as the new black widow. Out with the old and in with the new. They've destroyed Natashas legacy and retroactively changed her just to springboard off her.
As much as I love this review. I also love how Mauler came up with a new name for taskmaster every time
His review of Multiverse of Madness has him giving several funny versions of Benedict Cumberbatch’s name.
16:31 “this woman wont make it through a fucking uber without getting recognized. Shes more famous in this world, than scarlet johansen is in ours”
What a beautifully polished script lmAo😂 @mauler youre a god!🎉
I’m sorry I still can’t get over the avalanche scene. Our “heroes” basically buried an entire prison under thousands of feet of snow with potentially broken coms and guards locked in with the prisoners. Like Mauler said, they’d be resorting to eating each other just to survive and all they did was the terrible and heinous act of doing their job and serving their prison sentence. That alone made all of them irredeemable
But according to MCU, since the one who did it wasn’t John Walker so everything is absolutely fine.
They even took the time to animate obvious damage and _outright_ _explosions_ happening as a result of the avalanche. You'd think that if they were dumb enough to write our 'heroes' being cool with using an avalanche like this, they would have just had the snow sweep over the compound and acted as if everything is fine aside from a layer of snow stopping them from chasing after the protagonists. It would have been stupid and obviously unrealistic, but at least it wouldn't make it abundantly clear that Natasha fecking Romanov and Sister McSisterface are cool with using mass murder as a means of escape.
Same. Personally, this movie is just a shitty fanfiction in my eyes. I'm not gonna let it poison the memory of this character for me.
The problem is AIR. They will suffocate long before the resulting to cannibalism.
Prison is Underground FFS. All entrances were demolished.
This is literally the problem I have with Luke destroying the death star and then cheering as if he didnt just commit mass murder to save the galaxy
The sheer amount of organizations that have "controlled the flow of history" in the MCU is mind boggling. And we just got a new one with the Mandarin's Ten Rings which has apparently conquered everything since ancient times.
Now even eternals fucked everything up
Theres gonna be way fucking more in the future trust me lmao
My name is Lord teleportdinero
The marvel comics are terrible that way with a clusterfuck of secret organisations that all simultaniously control the world. Look forward to it getting even worse.
I mean by the ending of Loki it’s always been Kang for some reason in the mcu even though the TOAA exists in the mcu so that’s weird
It's really amazing how Natasha's involvement in the plot hinges on the crazy coincidence that it was her sister selected for the mission where a widow wakes up from her programming. If it had been any other widow (or why wasn't it Taskmaster for such an important task?) they wouldn't have sought out Natasha.
It's the inciting incident.
@EclipsingTNT
Yes.
One that depends on amazing coincidence. It was THE single most important mission a widow could be assigned, and it just so happened to be her sister who not only was one of the widows chosen, but the one who survived and was also unexpectedly deprogrammed. There's basically no agency or choices in those events, it's all just dumb luck.
@@ScienceWinsEveryTimeMy point is that it's fine for a story to start with a coincidence.
I would also like to point out the fact that the secure, protective case for the vials of red mind mist would do a piss poor job at protecting the mist. They'd all be rolling around in the case, bashing against each other as it gets hit by a car or an explosion. That much energy would cause the vials to smash eachother
You know I was fine not caring; but then MauLer had to remind me how good everything used to be and now I’ve gone from passively annoyed to actively pissed off
Same
And I'm just disheartened
Those comparisons to the first Avengers movie really drove it home...like damn what a character assassination.
One thing is clear: Your videos are so well narrated and produced and written that PEOPLE ARE ACCTUALLY QUOTING A 4 HOUR AND 17 MINUTE VIDEO BECAUSE THE LISTENED TO THE WHOLE THING AND IT MADE THEM FEEL FEELINGS. A truly marvelous job!
Yeah, watching a comedy skit is a hell of a lot more entertaining than watching a rotting, bone dry cash cow hobble on four game legs until it finally is allowed the sweet release of death.
I wouldn't, but when you start, you can't stop hearing...
It's better than the movies script by far. 👍👏
Yep that is one of the biggest indicators that a video is great where people are actually watching it lol
@@goodname9371 I mean people sometimes don't want to watch a 10 minute UA-cam video till the end. But this isn't a ten minute video °¬°
I remember being severely offended when what's his face said that comic movies (or Marvel) weren't "cinema," or whatever he said. I wrote him off as an out of touch joke. Damn, cut to a couple of years later and I 100% agree with him. This movie should've been similar to Winter Soldier, a spy thriller. Or dramatic, exploring childhood trauma, etc. Instead, we get the typical, cookie cutter, copy and pasted Marvel formula.
"What's his face" Nice naming for one of the best directors that ever lived.
One of the reasons I like superhero comics so much is that the universes they take place in can realistically tell any kind of story. In many fictional universes you'll get either a world of advanced technology *or* a world of magic, but in the Marvel and DC universes both are at your disposal. In fact one of my favorite comics ever is _Gotham Central,_ a police procedural that follows two human detectives working in Gotham City.
@@BiggieTrismegistusyou/
It’s actually a DShK 38/46 12.7x108mm… not a mini gun. Basically the Russian equivalent of the Ma Deuce aka .50 cal
This makes it all the more ridiculous because those rounds would make Swiss 🧀 cheese of the helicopter 🚁 🔥