@TheYagonaut You mean the same one barely anyone considered as canon even back then? This included the Droid Tales. The emperor being cloned or “resurrected” was a bad idea at the time in the SWEU and it still is now. I ain’t attacking you or anything, I just can’t stand folks using that argument out of context or research. But hey, if you knew about this beforehand, more power to ya.
Do you guys remember in The Winter Soldier where everyone was seriously worried about Natasha when she was shot by Bucky and was bleeding out on the street? Man, those were the days where a character being human meant having actual stakes.
@S W Hell, now i'm wandering why she even got SHOT in TWS, because after all we saw her go through in Black Widow, why *wouldn't* Natasha be bulletproof, right?
Thought in the movie, the Red Guardian was actually her father which I though would explain some of the shots I saw in the trailer. The falling 7 stories, hitting everything on the way down while still landing on her feet is more believable if it turns out she's half super soldier.
It's the video game boss dynamic. They can take a meteor to the face during combat and be ok, but a nick from a fingernail during the final cutscene is what kills them.
The fact that even the director said "I don't know, she just used her ingenuity I guess" to excuse a massive plot hole they clearly KNEW would be confusing and problematic is just..... amazing. Inspiring really
Alfred Hitchcock once said “A good movie needs three things: The script, the script, and the script”. There was a time when filmmakers heeded to that guideline. Between filming American Graffiti and principal photography of Star Wars, George Lucas rewrote 30 (3-0) drafts of that film. Contrast that with films nowadays. The Rise Of Skywalker’s shooting script was a first draft. Darren Aronofsky wrote mother! over a weekend. Is quality control not a thing anymore?
It reminds me of how the directors and writers of Endgame were fighting over whether Cap staying in the past and living life with Peggy violated the timeline or created a new reality.
I hope they make Black Widow sequels. Many of them. And in each movie, she has to beat the villain by giving herself progressively worse brain damage. That character arc would be amazing.
Hahaha! Omg. Why brain damage though? But ya know what? Knowing Disney and their greed and how stupid phase 4 is they’d probably actually do it. Seriously!
Aw man. Taskmaster is one of my favorite Marvel villains. In the comics his powers are so ridiculous that as a kid he was able to perfectly mimic an Olympic dive he saw on tv, but then nearly drowned because he didn’t bother to watch someone swim afterwards. He’s just the right mix of completely stupid and complete badass. It’s a shame that this movie’s taskmaster is so bland in comparison.
Woah this would have been amazing. Having him so keen on trying new moves that he doesn't bother watching the clips to their end couldve led to some amazing scenes where he has to improvise suddenly and thus looses an engagement
@@habelu6267 I completely agree. Taskmaster can fight pretty much anyone and win, but his weakness has always been his own overconfidence, and unorthodox strategy. That’s why I’m the comics he hates fighting people who are completely crazy, like Moon Knight.
Here's some world building for ya, see if you like it. What if we had Taskmaster show up as a merc/lieutenant to some of the villains. So he pops up in various films, fights some of the heroes, is ultimately defeated but lives to fight another day. Then, when you build to any kind of team-up movie - Taskmaster would present quite a threat, having fought so many of the heroes and absorbed their fighting techniques. It would be a chance to show a character become more dangerous over time - until he gets to the point where he becomes the main threat. I don't expect the new phase is going to give us anything like that.
@@notareptilianiswear.6600 Taskmaster is also so astutely observant of his opponents that he can actually inform them of flaws in their fighting style and bad habits. In a fight with Deadpool, he kept scoring hit after hit on him, and when asked how he was doing so well against him, Taskmaster simply replied, "You always dodge to the left."
You just pointed out something very interesting. People who are mad Nat died in Endgame often say: "just because Clint had a family doesn't mean he had more of a right to live" but the fact that he has a family is exactly why Nat wants him to live. She knows what it's like to grow up without a father (which is subtly established in a throwaway line) and she doesn't want Clint's children to go through that pain. You just gave me a newfound appreciation for that scene.
huh it's almost like both characters in the scene are selfless and want to take the sacrifice themselves because they see more good in others than themselves and "deserving to live X amount" never entered the equation.
Whats funny is Gamora was in the past so shouldnt Nat be at the Cliff and simply stop her and give the stone back? Hulk claims her soul to be beyond bringing back yet Gamora is here....who was sacrificed lol
@@MercuryAlphaInc No..... they wouldve been able to stop Natasha when returning the Soul Stone........That timeline was created the moment they got that stone..... to return it they would have to go back before.....
@@kool4209 Yeah, no, if they do that then they don't get the stone the first time so they fuck themselves over later. Then again, their timetravel makes no fucking sense what-so-ever but hey...
This film should've obviously been about her severely traumatic training, and how/why Hawkeye got her to flip and join SHIELD. That's it. And it should've come out between Infinity War and End Game making her sacrifice more poignant
Age of Ultron is where we get more insight into Widow's past. It would've been a great idea to put a Hawkeye/Widow origin film before Civil War. But nope gotta throw your female lead into the dumpster fire.
"Why the fuck does Daffy Duck have a stronger grasp on espionage than Black fucking Widow" beats "Even if 30 years of development explain why Luke is sheepishly sipping milk from a whalish giraffe he is stilldoing it, and that is the problem" as my favourite MauLer quote
I have to agree, that line was fantastic. I also love the "they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." Do not care if it's from Jurassic Park lol.
I think MauLer mentioned during the premiere that he got the quote from a HeelvsBabyface or Nerdrotic stream that he was on or when he had them as guests. I don't remember which.
The answer to every question of how Natasha survives is "because she cannot die yet", which results in her being able to do anything the writers and director wants
The thinng is to avoid this wonderful problem they could just avoid putting her through incidents that would obviously kill her. Instead of an explosive arrow blowing up her car he shoots out the tyres and she crashes. You still get a dramatic car crash but she wouldn't obviously be killed by it. Same with the second car explosion, just have them lose control and crash into the subway entrance after losing a tyres and her falling off that building was uneccassary as hell. The writers of this clearly forgot that apart from being highly trained these black widows are just normal ass humans beings.
Forgot to mention when her normal ass human body gets exploded, crushed THROUGH reinforced floor off the flying base thing and then smashes through fallen debris fighting turbo brainwashed assassin after being beaten down by twenty is highly trained black widows...and isn't altered in anyway. Like people are imbolised with pain just stubbing their toe, this woman is not human, she is some super durable alien thing.
I swear I see red every time I hear Monica tell Wanda "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them", moments after these townspeople were finally able to sleep soundly/see their children for the first time in months that were filled with torture and fear inflicted BY WANDA.
Seriously, it drives me insane how they sympathize with her because she gave up her imaginary children she barely knew. These people had their lives stolen from them and were psychologically tortured for months, not to mention the lasting mental health problems that would follow. All because of Wanda’s sitcom fantasy.
David Harbour actually suggesting Alexei should sing American Pie to Yelena and it wasn’t actually in the script. This just shows that the writers had no clue how these characters should operate. The fact that the actor knew how to make a meaningful moment and the writers didn’t is insane.
It’s almost as if he’s spent most of his career playing surrogate father figures like Hopper in Stranger Things and knows what he’s doing. Look I don’t like the guy but I appreciate his craft when it comes to acting and I genuinely think Alexei had potential if the writers cared. Like that scene is really good and showed that Alexei cared about his surrogate daughters in a really sincere and touching way. A commie super soldier singing a song literally called “American Pie” because some kid pretending to be his child liked it. It was quite possibly the only scene I liked in this film and the fact that it wasn’t even intended at the start is the most bittersweet thing I’ve ever heard.
I love how they discovered the hex was mutating the inhabitants and not a single person seemed concerned about that one mutation that kills people slowly and horribly called "cancer" that would be an effective method of giving the story lasting consequences and- no apparently taking all of their freedom away was ok because the only product of a mutation we saw was superpowers, thank you wanda for giving thousands of people superpowers after keeping them hostage for a week
I just want to remind everyone that, according to Veto's logic, the reason Nat's car didn't explode in the explosion is because the explosion moved the car away from the explosion, thus clearing the car safe of the explosion. By the explosion.
@@CrySomeMorePlease facts. His dialogue in falcon and winter soldier was fucking stupid. He was sidelined and wrote off as a dumb sidekick in his own show. Then made his character apologize for being racist towards Sam when that literally was never an issue before.
@@DarkEcho119 Mr 28 subscribers person….his line only works if at least 1 of 28 people who are subbed are in the comment section at the exact moment he types it. I doubt the line works very often….
Idk why this still bothers me but I can't get over how Alexi was the perfect character to fight taskmaster because his sober drunken fist can't be copied and would likely confuse the copy cat. Idk how the writers didn't see this easy W to make his character's usefulness in the movie feel complete. But as it is it seems he was just along for the ride and wasn't entirely necessary.
Cus then it would be a man beating up a woman, and dozens of articles clickbaiting a controversy would come out. Your idea is good, but the mouse has to be pure.
Can you imagine the moment Task Manager tries to pull some Judo shit and throw Alexi only for him to not even budge, laugh and toss her across the room. And she keeps trying, cycling through all the 'skilled' moves she's got and he just keeps powering through them. Leg sweep? Feels like she just kicked a tree stump. Straight arm bar? He just rolls his shoulders and lifts her off the ground. Hell she might try BW's hurricanrana only for him to take a step to ground himself and instead of being thrown he drives her into the floor while she's wrapped around his arm. And then she pulls the sword and he's forced to play defensively, maybe use some equipment around the room and she just cuts through it for the joke, then corral her into position for the cell trap.
@@Rinesmyth there are good movies and songs and all types of art created in the modern age. It’s just that people tend to gravitate towards the popular thing. You just have to dig deep to find gold.
@@DevolaPopola I don’t even know if we can assume people gravitate to what’s popular… I think that’s just what we get saturated with, sadly. Like a mountain of shit is hiding a small pile of gold.
@@DevolaPopola oh without a doubt there's still gold in the river, but that gold is now but a few crumbs, and it dwindles by the day; unless there's a gold streak a mile deep, waiting to be found, not much more will come from the stream.
@@DevolaPopola Like what? Songs, sure, there's a few. But films? Nah. A rare few European indie productions, that's about it. I was born in 2001, and even I'm wondering what the fuck happened to masterpieces like The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly, and Schindler's List. What's the best film past 2010? Joker? I'd say so. That's about the only good film in over a decade, one that genuinely had me shaken in awe and completely satisfied with what I'd witnessed. And ironically the film was made on a $10M budget instead of a $150-450M one. It was also made by a director who specifically made it because he was a comedian, and in this cancerous woke era, comedy isn't allowed because it's offensive. When you read the backstory, you basically discover that Todd Phillips is Arthur in that film. The film is good because it deliberately and fiercely rejected the same toxicity that poisons nearly all other productions these days. It is a rare exception made on purpose. We likely won't see that again until the entire culture changes, if it ever does which looking at it isn't likely.
"The only natural resource the world has too much of...GIRLS" I'm sorry that's the funniest line in cinema. Did a Saturday morning cartoon bully write that? 🤣
I swear, they probably watched too many James Bond movies and have completely forgotten what an ACTUAL spy work is. Wait, what am I saying? They didn't forget, they just never even knew.
*"And this idea was presented to us as carefully as buttering your toast WITH AN ANVIL."* Can we just take a moment to appreciate how absolutely, bizarrely hilarious this line is? It's amazing.
The hints they gave to Natasha's past in the previous movies were great, made the "Red Room" sound terrifying and mysterious. This movie took that entire idea of a super secret and torturous assassin organization and turned them into clowns in a flying clown castle. Leave it to Disney to totally kneecap a potentially badass backstory opportunity.
They did? That's interesting, I was really hoping they'd make the Red Room some kind of generic Cold War bunker or some mansion in the mountains. Not a shitty flying turd.
@Knox2Don Now wouldn't THAT have been a movie?!?!?! Could you imagine? Us getting a movie surrounding everything that happened with Natasha growing up? We could've seen her grow up in that torturous hell hole known as the Red Room and see her evolve into the cold assassin she started off as before Clint got to her. It would've been a great psychological drama but since it was Disney, NOOOOOOO. What a WASTED opportunity.
@@tashaglam4824 I think that's an interesting point made by (I believe) MauLer and others like E;R. More often than not, a backstory is not relevant to the story at hand. Anything we can fathom of the Red Room would likely be more terrifying than whatever they put to the screen. Prequels are so often worse than their original work because they fill in holes our collective imaginations can fill in better, and often are irrelevant to the story being told. They try to do something like Dottie in Agent Carter, but usually end up doing a Nick Fury's eye in Captain Marvel.
My biggest problem with Taskmaster/Drakov's daughter was she has a legitimate reason to want to kill Natasha. Making it resolve by she was just under mind control was such a missed opportunity. For a movie about Natasha trying to clear her ledger, it was the perfect opportunity to have Natasha face the reality that not all of her victims would forgive her just because she said she was sorry. I would have loved for Drakov's daughter to keep trying to kill Natasha after Natasha threw the magic gas in her face. The movie needed that, among the myriad of things also listed in this review.
Pretty similar to Tony wanting to kill Bucky for murdering his.parents despite knowing Bucky was under mind control and would have been a bittersweet end to her lesson. Sad they didn't think that.
Kind of like Bucky’s abandoned arc in Falcon and Winter Soldier, where he had his list of people he owed redemption to for his crimes. Which was great, until it was dropped and barely acknowledged in the finale.
One of the most offensively bad parts for me was when they turned the sterilisation of the sister into a joke/gross-out gag. Regardless of your thoughts on this in real life, in the context of the films, this was something Natasha struggled with really hard and had a very poignant scene with Bruce I think talking about it. It's almost like they're trying to sabotage everything they've done on purpose at this point.
I hate to sound like a conspiracy nut, but I remember a while ago there was some Twitter Drama over that aspect of Natasha's character. The writer of an article (if I remember correctly) essentially said that it was a message to young girls and women that you aren't a real woman if you can't have kids. Thus, this aspect of Natasha's character was reductive, sexist and should not be tolerated. Of course I don't believe that, but it could be due to this kind of percieved backlash that they played off references to her being infertile as a joke. Bringing this kind of idea seriously, into your strong wamen protagonist film, would not get the feminists on side.
@@AsperTheGhost I've seen that too. I can't remember exactly where I heard this, but I think some people have indeed praised this film for referencing the sterilization only as a joke.
I don't think you'll ever see this, but I wanna be serious about something. You've really helped me see a lot of issues in story telling and a lot of important notes. Before I didn't even notice more than half of these issues in the movie, mainly because I was brain dead throughout its entirety lol. As someone who wants to write stories in the future, whether or not making good ones (I hope they'll be good), I gotta say your channel was still a lot of help with teaching me what to do and what not to. And I appreciate that, genuinely.
Same my thoughts and way of looking at things drastically improved after i started watching movie critics like mauler, critical drinker the closer look etc.
Oh god they gave Taskmaster the X-men origins Deadpool treatment. An actual character people like has been turned into a mute mindless drone and the only thing that carried over was, “can fight.”
I remember when i was younger and watched in awe as some strange man in a white cloak and skull mask mirrored an matched Spiderman in straight combat. The only way Spiderman beat him is by using something the man couldn't have expected, and it was clear that Spiderman would slowly run out of options against the unstoppable, learning, evolving monster behind the mask. A fucking kids show gets Taskmaster right. It makes me sick that they killed him off for a reveal that made no sense. They burnt a perfectly good villain to the ground. Excluding Zemo, Loki, and Enchantress, who's been absolutely bitch slapped by their shows, they've killed off or pissed on pretty much every villain that's been shown in the MCU. They'll run out of iconic source villains at this rate.
A smart, wisecracking, mercenary, with skills that can make him alone a match for the likes of Captain America in hand to hand combat, with legendary weapons and gear, made into this. As a Taskmaster fan, I am officially irate.
yeah and i fucking hate it. Taskmaster has such decent backstory that can be shaped any which way but no, here's a fucking mindless drone action person.
Taskmaster, a villain that's incredibly intelligent yet also surprisingly quirky regarding his various choices of mimicry and prediction for a dangerous yet fun character who the heroes always have to think outside the box to ever hope to beat when encountering him...was reduced to a mentally comatose brainlet that never says a word whose entire power isn't his/hers, but that of a computer chip in a way where "Task-memer" (i refuse to call that embarrassment Taskmaster), can be replaced with literally anyone with said chip in their neck. Holy shit...not only has Black Widow been reduced to a dime-a-dozen replaceable joke but so has Taskmaster. They replaced him with a fucking computer chip that isn't even a sentient AI or anything.
Seriously, why wasn’t this movie just a prequel? We could’ve watched a tense, emotional, action-packed movie about Clint and Natasha meeting and then working together to take down Drakov. It would properly set up her character arc in the future and give us a good farewell, knowing what she will accomplish in the future. Instead we got this lol
at least no one was crying over this like they were with Black Panther. and thats the reason this movie is okay....no one expected anything from it, and no one sold it as anything great. it is what it is....unlike black panther, which was a trash-heap sold as a gem that soooo many ppl had been waiting all these years for. why mauler spent so much time on this movie, i dunno...
Seems like no one really gets this but this is a women-power-movie. It sacrifies everything in order to have "strong independent females". You can't put a normal man in such a movie, especially not as a protagonist. To prove my point, lets see which men are in the movie: 1) Antagonist: a women hating and hitting choleric 2) Red Guardian: dumb fat pig, only cares about himself and about fighting, neglegted his family 3) Helicoper Delivery Guy: "the good man" who does everything for women with no gain at all, white knight, typical friendzone material This movie just hates men and ruins the entire plotline multiple times just to picture men as useless, stupid and women as the only answer to everything (while also protraying them as mindcontrolled victims for some reason). It's garbage, don't think about it. It's the same as suicide squad, female ghost busters version, parts of the series "(teen) titans" (on netflix) and so, so many others. Even Star Wars went down this road atleast partially. Wouldn't be a problem if the movies were good, but for some reason, they are all complete garbage. Maybe the ones making those movies "for women" actually think that women don't care about logic? IDK.
Don't feel too bad, the movies are designed to quickly speed between points, and throw up distracting smokescreens, allude to answers they never provide, and count on you filling in gaps they couldn't come up with to cover their own messes. As an aside, possible additional example, and neat video you might like if you like this stuff. There's a Fire Emblem youtuber named Mekkah that did a Plinkett Reviews inspired dissection of Fire Emblem 7, called, iirc, Fire Emblem 7 Is the Worst Thing Since My Son, and that game actually has a lot of similar plot issues, inconsistencies, and trends that a lot of modern films do. Gaping plot holes, characters with convoluted plans that exist to get characters into place for their dramatic moments, weird have your cake and eat it too portrayal of a faction of assassins as both a lovable band of found family, and a nation toppling shadow council that kills its own for not just failure, but partial success, while also being a highly elite, best of the best that kills the mere best, group that fields small armies of disposable, low skill fodder, moronic, redundant plans to make for setpieces, and more. Might be neat, even if you don't particularly care for the series, just to see the same flavors in a different medium.
You know you’ve been around this channel for a while when you’re not even looking at the screen, but you can still “hear” Mauler playing the green milk clip.
Imagine if Alexei had to fight task master mimicking Cap. That would be an actual conclusion to an arc of him lying about having fought him, only to have to fight him "for real"
I'm not entirely sure he is lying about him though. I mean look at how he asked Natasha if he ever talked about him, I really think he does believe that he once fought Cap. My theory is that they'll eventually introduce the William Burnside Captain America (a retconned character Marvel came up with to explain the Captain America comics from the 1950's, when he would have been frozen), saying that he took up Cap's mantle during the final years of the Cold War to go on covert missions.
@@achaudhari101 It's a bad movie and 3 mediocre shows one after another, sharing a good amount of problems, I've never seen the MCU go on a bad strike like this. I can only think of Iron Man 3 followed by Thor 2 in phase 2 and Ant-Man and the Wasp followed by Captain Marvel in phase 3 but this is something else, specially in a transition phase when they should get things mostly right so the upcoming, actually interesting stories of important characters can have a good foundation, which isn't the case here. At least What If has been fine but it's just a procedural show so that's not very important for the overall thing. Also just because people like it that doesn't mean it's good (?). Game of Thrones was going down since season 5, s6 just sunk it deeper but there were jokes, explosions and fan-service and the fans pointing out how none of it made sense were annoying book readers until s7-8 hit and “oh no, all of a sudden this show became terrible, what could've gone wrong?” See the problem? I hope I'm wrong and this is just an abnormally long strike of bad IPs but I don't know.
I do find it funny that Nat thinks that Drakov's daughter is "still in there", trying to free her from the mind control (getting past how stupid mind control saving an explosion victim is). Nat exploded her, Drakov's daughter should want to brutally murder Nat regardless of the mind control
That would've been an awesome twist. The last-minute reveal that Taskmaster wasn't under any mind control and had a vendetta with Nat would be amazing.
Probably the most fundamental and disrespectful thing this travesty of a movie did was stomp on the back of Black Widow well after the character died, and made her the most boring Widow of them all, in attempt to propel her sister character into the spotlight. Cynical and manipulative.
@@hobodog7758 Well, it's acceptable on a subjective level... Like, don't take it the wrong way, it's still sub-par caracters with caked-on cutesy humor with lamp-shading galore, yet "compared to the rest" I can see why most people would find something likable in this generic "snarky little sister" type. It's not like those cray-cray saying they loved brutal Wonder Woman in Snyder Cut "because the normal one is too weak sauce". That I'll never understand. Ps: Anyone can enjoy either versions of Wonder Woman, sure, but people saying all she was missing was to start busting skulls weren't paying attention, she was always doing it... They just wouldn't paint the walls red in the other movies/versions. Just wanted to be precise.
You know, everyone hates that Yelena killed hundreds of prisoners and guards so easily and thoughtlessly but maybe it could work to her advantage. It's been drilled in her to do whatever it takes to complete a mission. It's all she's ever known. These guards are obstacles in the way of her mission so she chooses to just kill them all. It could be eye-opening to Natasha to be like, "You're supposed to be a hero now, this isn't what heroes do. We don't kill everyone in our way. This isn't the red room anymore." It could shake her, make her wonder if she can trust her sister. I don't know, if could be an interesting development.
I agree. I never had a problem with Yelena because to me that's just her personality, she's never had to be a good person. Her LEARNING to be one is a good character arc, I think.
You don't kill hundreds of prisoners and prison guards AFTER the guy you wanted to rescue has been rescued, that's asinine. Also it happened due to an unforeseen event, her mistake was to laugh about it and not try to help.
I think the saddest part is the whole "no one would have wanted to see a woman headlining a superhero film back in the day" when in reality fans for YEARS have been asking for, nay PLEADING for a Black Widow film. But no, the fans are the sexist ones for hating this crappy film, not the producers who had so little faith in a female lead. Go screw yourselves, Marvel/Disney Anyway, Great video as always Mauler, and I look forward to the next Marvel dumpster fire review.
The fans had been begging for Black Widow film since 2016 after Civil War. Then Marvel just gave us Captain Marvel instead. And when they finally gave us Black Widow, it was 2 years after she was dead and it was mainly YELENA’S movie. What an insulting way to treated Natasha Romanoff’s character.
@@nont18411Fans have been begging for Nat movie since Avengers Age of Ultron - when Wanda gave Natasha visions of the Red Room. People were genuinely editing "movie trailers" based just on that one scene. It's ridiculous that we got Captain Marvel movie first, considering you don't need the context of her story to understand Endgame at all. Just give us 2 minute explanations of her powers. Nat is not only one of the oldest characters but imo much more interesting and complex.
"How do you fuck up tic tac toe"? I think you just gave away the first question they ask when they interview you for the job of directing a Marvel movie.
Oh my God. MauLer you are the ONLY person I've seen call out the fact that Marvel keeps having their heroines literally cheer while causing actual mass murder. My circle of friends and family never react to this the way I do. Thank you so much.
@Jarvi Blue What became of the female scientist in Wonder Woman? If memory serves, she too was spared cos "men made her do evil deeds"... Just hit Mauler describing the mom/Raquel Weiss - villain personified, plays the victim though actively victimising, created a device to make people do what she wants...
It’s shocking to have someone murder hundreds then cheer whilst doing so. You’d expect it to be somber, quiet and whilst a bit relieved the action is over in thought. A moment of silent, a reflection inwards. Instead it’s like WOOO EXPLOSIONS. Which can work in some movies but not when you know these characters, not when you’ve been through what they’ve been through and what their story and lore is. Be consistent with a characters legacy or just fuck off and start a new character like they clearly not. Don’t use the prior characters legacy as a jump board to launch your new character to the forefront it’s disrespectful to what came before
I feel the movie would have been infinitely better if there was an actual character foil. Everyone in this movie kept telling Natasha how special and right she is. Like what if the movie started with Yelena seeking out Natasha for help with the Red Room, but Yelena wants to murder them all to ensure the Red Room is defeated? Yelena learned through her abuse and conditioning that only violence can solve conflicts, whereas Natasha was trying to redeem herself as peacefully as possible by freeing the Widows. Forget Drakov or whatever his name is. Having him alive just gives a cheap, "kill him and the problem is solved" gimmick. Then the final conflict could have been Natasha v Taskmaster v Yelena. Taskmaster is trying to kill Natasha for having killed the Red Room's founder, and Natasha is trying to subdue Taskmaster while fending off Yelena who is trying to kill Taskmaster. Then, the abuse and trauma of the Red Room would be an actual antagonist rather than punchlines or passing mentions. Natasha could still redeem herself for almost killing Drakov's daughter in the past by protecting her in the present, Natasha would have had a character foil in Yelena, Yelena could have still switched to the good side in the end, and any redemptions that occurred wouldn't have been based on some stupid mind-control contrivance.
Fuck you're right. They totally missed a chance to have Natasha play the role of an older sister and mentor to this newly-released black widow who doesn't yet know how to work for the good guys. And it would fit well with the whole passing of the torch idea. But oh well, they can't show female character growing because they can't assign them genuine faults or character flaws.
Even better if instead of the stupid fake found spy family, Lena and Nat are actually blood related via their mom and two different dads, making them half sisters (and explaining why they look very, very different lol). I also think they really didn't think through the whole "Draykov is/was a sexist" because...It's so weird that of all things, the practical heir to the evil misogynistic megalomaniac...Is a girl...And he just...Accepts that... It's almost like Draykov's actions kinda dispell this whole idea that he's a sexist only for the writers to make him pretend that he's sexist to get women in the audience to hate him...Instead of just hating on him for TORTURING CHILDREN??? Nah, he said there are two many girls on the planet that's far worse than torture now a days apparently... See if they write Draykov to actually be intimidating with leverage, they would give Draykov multiple children until he had at least two sons but possibly even more if you wanna say he had that much game. The real antagonist would be the Red Room but also the whole concept of legacy, family and children. Because that's the core of Nat's character. Forcing her to question how much blood relationships really matter would be a far better character arc than... Whatever this is...
Your conclusion for Alexei perfectly demonstrated how these types of Hollywood writers view men. On the one hand, they hate how distant and emotionless men are, but they also ruthlessly mock any man who tries to share his actual feelings. They just hate men, and use men’s minor flaws as excuses for their hatred
The sheer amount of organizations that have "controlled the flow of history" in the MCU is mind boggling. And we just got a new one with the Mandarin's Ten Rings which has apparently conquered everything since ancient times.
The marvel comics are terrible that way with a clusterfuck of secret organisations that all simultaniously control the world. Look forward to it getting even worse.
The scene where Natasha sploojes the Anti-Brainwashing sparkles in Antonia's face would have been so much more impactful if it had had no effect. If the entire movie we had gotten used to the fact that this substance was an instant-character change pixie dust, but here in the climax we discover that Antonia wasn't brainwashed, she just loved her evil father and hated the assassin who tried to kill her to get to him. What a twist!
Yup, they could have even milked it with a sequel too if they went with it. But that requires writing talent and removing wokness from the script, something phase 4 certainly lacks in the former.
@@harlan7012 let’s not write off all of phase 4. Although wandavision was awful and FATWS was subpar, lowkey was pretty good and I heard Shang chi was great
I thought this same thing about the mist not working on her. Not that she likes killing but bc her father installed a different type control on her that can't be reversed
Widow calling herself Black Widow would be like Finn in SW calling himself “Stormtrooper” to remind himself of his time as a brainwashed child soldier/killer.
Or Captain marvel wearing the kree symbol on her outfit even after she knows that the kree are evil but she keeps it in the comics and so on. We need the Warbird outfit back.
It’s like each main character is in the same film but somehow a different genre. •Alexi is in a comedy •Yelena is in a YA drama thriller •Natasha is in a superhero action movie •Melina is playing a scientist in a dark action drama •And Dreykov feels like some villain from a high octane action series that jumped the shark a few entries ago Then you have Taskmaster who is wasted as a power-set AND character. Not saying Tony Masters is some brilliant example of flawless character work in the comics but they used his powers, name and basic design and slapped it over a literal fucking drone who ends up being used simply to expunge a chunk of red from Nat’s ledger at the end
This is true, if Marvel was smart, they'd do a complete reset. Aka.... start with a singular small story that balloons to something huge while still connected to the past..
@TheGkmasta If you throw a ball and it hits somebody on the head which causes them to stumble on the street to be crushed to a bloody pulp by a SemiTruck, would you argue that its just a thing that happened? It was a consequence of their Actions. Not sure why such a concept is so hard to understand.
People shit on Mauler for always being so negative but I don't think I could call anyone a bigger superfan of the properties he roasts than him. He has extensive knowledge and love for these movies and characters and you don't spend 4 and a half hours bitching about something you don't absolutely adore. Good video.
I used to be an avid MCU fan and then I felt they weren’t going any sensible direction. Good to know it wasn’t just me. Mauler’s got a very fanatic view of this world and now we all feel the same sinking sense of cringe at the squeezing of the money sponge.
I think they do a better than reasonable job at continuity despite a demanding fan base though, and make a concerted effort to balance things where they need balance, but you can’t please everyone and trying to hurts the integrity of the films. It might just be Disney, look at Star Wars, they basically copied episode 4 and dumped a Mary Sue in there and then just sort of minimally wrote scripts glazed over with amazing (mostly) special effects and took advantage of fan loyalty in every possible way, but did them no justice at the same time imo. Disney has lots of money and always some kind of agenda, are they the EA of movies, I wonder?
MauLer has yet to post a review/critique of something I've actually watched or even know the first thing about. The films, series etc. themselves don't interest me. However, storytelling and writing do -- and so does MauLer's passion and knowledge. That is why I can spend hours listening to and watching reviews of things I honestly couldn't give a toss about. That speaks to his talent.
At least in Captain America: the Winter Soldier, Natasha had the basic knowledge of attempting to blend with a crowd and wearing a hood, which she could have tried let alone disguising herself
On the subject of Loki. Anyone remember when he was smart enough to take advantage of Thor’s fear and adrenaline in the first Avengers to get him trapped in Hulk’s cell? We’d be lucky to get something as good as that now.
@@unpopularopinions7407 "Some people think they can outsmart me, maybe, *sniff* maybe. But I have yet to one who can outsmart Big smell" -Dreykov Baggins
@@Nassit-Gnuoy it’s not about logic, it’s about replacement. They wanted a sympathetic woman in the role because you can’t redeem a white man. They just needed to hammer that fucking subtle abuse of women theme in as hard as possible.
@@JeffTheBunnySlayer If anyone had an issue with Taskmaster being white, they could've based his appearance on his Ultimate Universe counterpart (he looks... Hispanic in that 1610 version?). But yeah, him being hired as a trainer would have been several thousand times better. And if you wanted to add some intrigue (as well as a nod to his role as a SHIELD Agent), you could intergrate his history with Natasha with him not remembering her at all. Maybe Natasha is aware that because of his powers, Taskmaster is still technically a SHIELD Agent but doesn't know it? Plus the film would've been a great oppurtunity to seed the idea of a future school where Taskmaster teaches other villians to fight using the styles of the Avengers!
One thing is clear: Your videos are so well narrated and produced and written that PEOPLE ARE ACCTUALLY QUOTING A 4 HOUR AND 17 MINUTE VIDEO BECAUSE THE LISTENED TO THE WHOLE THING AND IT MADE THEM FEEL FEELINGS. A truly marvelous job!
Yeah, watching a comedy skit is a hell of a lot more entertaining than watching a rotting, bone dry cash cow hobble on four game legs until it finally is allowed the sweet release of death.
As thick of a plot armor Batman has, in Justice League: Unlimited, he at least has the self-awareness to call in other members of the Justice League while in freefall to save him, admitting, "I can't fly." I guess he should've spawned a parachute.
I swear Natasha had severe plot armor. Even steroids Harry Osborne in Spiderman 3 didn't TANK his fall like that. He legit passed out and lost his memories
She should’ve died in literally all the movie she’s played in. Especially when she hijacks one of those speeding hovercraft in avengers 1? Should’ve straight up killed her on impact.
That's because, in spite of it's flaws, Spider-Man 3 is a better movie in every conceivable regard. The generally agreed upon low-point of the original Spider-Man movies is still miles above... Can we just say most of the post-Infinity War MCU?
You know I was fine not caring; but then MauLer had to remind me how good everything used to be and now I’ve gone from passively annoyed to actively pissed off
@@aleka8612 definitely not gonna take time out of my day to comment EVERY single one of them but Taskbastard, Task Manager & Pod Caster are the ones I remember the most it's fucking hilarious 😂😂😂
Hi MauLer, I just want to say how much I appreciate that you always make an effort to talk about unnecessary casualties caused by "heroes". You do it it a lot in your Star Wars sequel videos as well, and your Postman Pat line in this video was perfect. I appreciate it because it's something that always bothers me: when main characters are that careless with innocent lives and the movie never seems to care. I don't usually see other reviewers / youtubers commenting on that, so when I see you do it, and spend a good chunk of time discussing it, it really helps me to not feel crazy, and no one explains it better than you.
Agreed! I've always been bothered by tye insane amounts of collateral damage in these types of movies. At least earlier MCU movies cared a little--they mention relief efforts to help people caught up in the Avengers' struggles by an organisation funded by Tony Stark in one or two of the movies, and when Wanda threw a bomb into an apartment building in Civil War, it actually mattered.
@@5h0rgunn45 It's funny we take forgranted the trope of "the angry police chief" - but it's an interesting illustration that even some of the most asinine 80s and 90s action flicks had enough self-awareness to know that the wanton choices of their protagonists had consequences and that people would ask about them. It's even funnier how insanely stupid people have become in just two to three decades. NPCs are real. Film (and writing), like music before it, is mostly formulaic button pushing now. It disgusts and disturbs me. We need a modern renaissance but it will never come, because such a renaissance would be "extremist" in the eyes of the people who think Black Widow is a great film. Black pilled again.
@@prot07ype87 I never did go through Automata yet. And I've only ever seen a playthrough of the first Nier, though I suppose I could emulate it. He's specifically targetting the idea of "collateral damage"?
@@shemsuhor8763 imagine caring for what the NPC consider extremist or not. At this point they are nothing more than cattle. Thier free will is but a myth
I'm surprised that Mauler missed the obvious trope. The Red Room is explained by him to have kidnapped tens of thousands of young girls to be brainwashed into mindless killers. If that sounds familiar, it's because Disney used the same concept with The First Order.
@@MrTeamGuy both if you can believe it. They turned Illum into a super-ultra-mega "NOT THE DEATH STAR" that can destroy multiple planets at once from its own system without being anywhere near them by draining its sun to power its laser. They have Snoke who is knockoff Palpatine who is later revealed to be a funky clone-ish creation of Palpatine. Palpatine, believe it or not, ends up "returning" via unexplained life support on a Sith cultist planet in the final movie
I think now is probably the best time for Disney to give Marvel a break. People are burned out, the movies aren’t making much money, and people are getting more and more critical of the Disney Plus shows. If they took a step back, regrouped, and came back in a year or two with single-hero, insular movies like the first Iron Man, look at what people liked/didn’t like about past movies, and put more time into releasing an individual movie every other year or so instead of exhaustively trying to run all the gas out of the cinematic universe at once, it might be more welcome than property spam. At least, that’s what a company that didn’t have money to burn and agendas to push would do.
yea they are just trying to milk as much money out of the marvel franchise as they can they dont really care about making good production they just care about money. like look at the difference in plot quality with infinitywar/endgame compared to black widow movie and falcon tv show. its so huge and you can really tell they didn't really put as much effort into the plots.
I always thought they should have gone back to the single movie thing after endgame but instead they killed, sidelined or race and gender swapped everyone and made that almost impossible. I mean, these heroes all had careers after the Infinity War in the comics. Yet here we are. MCU peaked with The Winter Soldier and only went down from there.
I always love watching mauler’s unbridled rages, because I can basically watch the bad movie and understand all the major plot points while also being entertained.
@@innoillust Never finished. Lost me at "falls 7 stories, hitting multiple vents on the way down". 4hrs of Mauler is an unearned blessing in comparison
As Hollywood has continually dropped the ball for the last decade, I've told my friends "I get more entertainment out of watching youtubers and content creators complaining and critiquing movies, and the inevitable shitshow that ensues after on social media from the cast and crews of said shitshows than the actual movie itself" His videos are some of the best and most perfect examples and exactly what comes to mind.
The action scenes were planned before the movie even had a script. Said script was then written in 11 days. Phase 4 Marvel has made it very clear. Writing is the *lowest* priority.
And yet they can’t keep the camera wide and steady on the action and they like to take a lot of cuts with choppy editing, like it’s unnecessary the Thorne room fight scene in Loki is possibly the worst fight in the MCU that I think it’s worse than the last Jedi.
The movies are so profitable, by now they realise they can just pull something out of their asses and still make millions. They are just going for quantity, not quality, and it shows.
Your breakdown of the Natasha vs. Loki interrogation was actually beautiful. That was already an amazing scene but the sheer depth of each action was lost on me. You have improved a movie I already know and love, thank you.
It was one of my favorite moments in a great movie. I didn't see the one already in the Playlist, but Mauler's breakdown would've made a fine addition to One Marvelous Scene.
You're telling me they couldn't figure out how to use Taskmaster without making him a "goon?" lmao.. What about.. You know, what he does in the comics--train people. You literally have an entire army of widows to train.
No no no my friend Disney can't have a man telling the women what to do from a position of experience it would upset the girl power narrative! - (Some chicom probably)
remember in the first avenger when our introduction to captain's powers was him running moderately fast for 4 minutes of the film, and then got shot in the arm with a snub nose pistol which severely slowed him down? Then, he was a broadway propaganda poster child for the second act, and when he finally met skull face as a hero, it was like a 15-foot gap between them that he couldn't clear? So they fled the burning factory and limped back to base? These movies don't fail because of female leads, they fail because they go out of their way to make a human spy trained in infiltration tougher than their superhuman male leads. How much respect would there be if Natasha broke a leg in the first act and had to limp thru the pain using her smarts as a fugitive on the run like in "no country for old men"? or what if she had a Manchurian candidate mode where she killed people indiscriminately? or had a "no Russain. no witnesses" moment, revealing the flaws of a paranoid and desperate hero who breaks under the pressure of being gaslit and suspicious that everyone around her is a spy? Disney can't make those kinds of moves.
Like in Endgame where she fought the alien chick that JUST finished rinsing Vision, like moments before the alien had punched though concrete but Natasha beat her. Like the alien couldnt just stand there and catch her punches that wouldnt of even damaged her, and torn her in half.
@@iamcool544 both her fights in infinity war were 10 seconds each. she sucker-punches the preoccupied aliens that are way tougher than her, dodges a few hits, gets knocked prone, then gets rescued by tech or magic. before the alien warrior can finish the kill. Seems pretty plausible for a rogue of normal human ability. vision, although more powerful, is not trained and lacks instincts. i could justify vision always getting wrecked like a concrete wall while natasha knows how to roll with a punch. and i get that the BW movie has to be all about BW. just saying it would be better if they scaled it back and focused on her supreme 4d chess of infiltration and espionage. dial it up from time to time like trinity running from the agents in matrix 1. daniel craig 007 had some wild stunts that make you suspend disbelief, but there was this arc always progressing of how his careless abandon was leading to injuries and the decline of his own body. that's all i'm saying... if they made a BlackWidow 007 movie where she dealt more directly with the consequences of her actions i think it would be a much better movie than eating rockets and freefalling out of sky cities.
This movie is trying to convince me Black Widow has more of a pain tolerance than the freaking Punisher, a normal man who’s pain tolerance borders on superhuman, I mean he doesn’t take pain killers.
There's something that just occurred to me when hearing that embarrassment of an excuse for replacing Tony Masters with a braindead computerized puppet; Taskmaster easily could have been a major, recurring villain while KEEPING the braindead bomb survivor girl, by simply having Tony Masters appear at the end of the film, picking up the discarded neck chip and adding it to suitcase or any other collecting container full of other computer chips, each showing glimpses of every single hero and villain throughout the MCU. It would have had Tony Masters be the true mastermind who used Drekov rather than Drekov using him, collecting the combat data of literally everyone so far to become the ultimate combat machine that can counter anyone via sending out special data collection+emulation chips to gullible villains who record and gather said data for Tony Masters. Maybe even have him say a line along the lines of "Really, Drekov? After everything i put into bring back your precious Red Room, this is all you could gather for me? Pathetic.", which would explain how Drekov pulled off reviving the Red Room after its first destruction.
Honestly having multiple different Taskmasters that eventually combine their skills into the real one would be genius. We'd see lots of different styles and there'd be so much suspense building as we realise the most dangerous one by far will soon enter the stage. I think a great way to introduce him would be perhaps an Avenger manages to break some of his puppets free, and they try to turn on him, using the skill sets they acquired to stand a chance. And he fucking annihilates them.
I'm personally of the belief you could've easily just kept a Masters Taskmaster (Boy or girl) as a Merc, and it actually work better for the story by also tying them in with a character that only showed up at the start of the movie, and the end. Ross Have Blastermaster be a third party working for both the Red Room as an instructor, and trying to collect the bounty on Nat in their downtime. Make it be the Widows that are after the Floomp Juice while Keymaster's initial tussle with Nat have *ACTUAL DIALOG* from Taskfaster mocking Nat, and telling her he has no intention of killing her, not before dragging her carcass to Ross for a ripe payday. The second encounter is lastmaster pitching in to catch Nat and Blonde Widow since they took down the fresh batch of Widows he was babysitting. *Also remove the APC chase* With the final encounter behind him trying to take down Both Nat and Yelena because they just cost him one of his contracts. So he was definitely going to make Nat in particular pay, by getting carted off to the Raft, but with the two double teaming with a mix of fighting styles to help throw Flaskbaster off his game, ending with him losing, but retreating before they could kill him, or they chose to let him live to not add more Red in their ledgers.
She's portrayed as if she had the super soldier serum like the comics despite never recieving it in the MCU. She is a normal human yet she can somehow take blows like Captain America at times.
Is it strange that Drakhov, the king of espionage, that hates women, would name the program after a species of spider that the female EATS the male after breeding with them? that would be like Tony stark naming Ultron, The Stab-me-in-the-back Skynet HAL robot and being like "Nah it'll be fine".
Isn’t that the point though, he sends the widows to powerful men across the world and the widows seduce them and can kill them ending up Drakhov influencing politics in those countries . Seems aptly named to me
@@azure89 my point is that Drakhov hating women doesn't make sense. If you hate crocodiles, you wouldn't make crocodiles smarter, more aggressive, heavily armed and perfectly trained, and then keep a few in your office, only to get attacked by a crocodile and go see this is why I hate them.
@@probalicous3258 Him hating women allows him to do those despicable things to women though. He stripped those women of their agency by using drugs to control them and place them under his absolute control. A grim example is slavery back in the day, slave owners hated the slaves and this allowed them to do evil to the slaves because they did not empathise with them at all. Same with Drakhov, do you see where im coming from?
I find "Black Widow" to be particularly ironic for the setting. This was the name given to female chechen warriors fighting during the 1st and 2nd Chechen Wars because they lost their husbands and were fighting for "revenge", putting it simple. They were present during the Nord Ost raid and the Beslan School Crisis, the russians themselves are not very found of the term "Black Widow"
I think Midnight's edge said he fell off of his bike while standing still and he had to be hospitalized. These movies would be better if they let the stuntmen write them.
My great-grandmother fell through two floors when she was young. My great-grandfather was building a house and she fell through a weak spot in the floors. It f*cked up her back for the rest of her life. My point is, Natasha would have been f*cked up by that fall. She’s not superhuman like Steve, who barely walked off the fall from the Shield tower and almost died when he fell from the helicarrier in Winter Soldier.
Yelena suffers from the same issues as Finn in TFA. Both are basically highly indoctrinated child soldiers who know nothing but military style drill. Both somehow grew up to be quite the goofballs.
Imagine the storytelling potential if the writers of these shit films actually played into the idea of Finn and Yelena having severe mental trauma and PTSD from their time as cold blooded killers. The writers are so braindead that they try to make them comic relief despite having a good character arc being possible through their tragic backstories.
And yet she also borrows from Rey. Natasha was disrespected in much the same way as luke skywalker in order to push Yelena as the new black widow. Out with the old and in with the new. They've destroyed Natashas legacy and retroactively changed her just to springboard off her.
@@silverscorpio24 I suppose I grew up on the side of the nineties that didn't get into Spy Kids, though I did really enjoy Planet Terror and From Dusk Till Dawn.
Do note the olfactory nerve gets triggered when breathing through your mouth. You may not recognize the smell through your mouth but pheromones or sorts would still register. This means that no smacking her head on the table would do nothing she is 100% still under his control in that scene. Unless, of course, as you mentioned, she gives herself severe brain trauma trying to severe the nerve.....but then she'd be knocked out on the floor and the movie ends.
I want the minions of a villain chasing heroes for 5 minutes straight, unloading entire mags into their vehicles, just to corner them while the big bad evil guy shows up and says the line: "I finally got you exactly where i want you. But seriously, do you have any idea how difficult it is to NOT turn you into swiss cheese?"
Or the bad guy leader saying to his troops, "Ok guys, you are ordered shoot to kill! Until when you can actually get the kill. Then you are ordered to force them to surrender!"
one thing the new MCU media manages to accomplish is that it makes me appreciate what came before even more by seeing how much better it is than what we have now
Another point is how Natasha went unrecognized, not only when she was the most famous, and the most wanted, but she's attractive. People always pay more attention to attractive people, especially attractive women, so the likelihood of being recognized was extremely high.
I remember a scene from Captian America: Winter Soldier, where WS's bullet literally graze next to Black Widow's neck. The absolute TERROR is her eyes from almost dying right there was such a small yet brilliant moment. Fast forward to 2021, Black Widow apparently got access to vibranium suit and vibranium sunscreen that absorbs 99.9% of damage🤦
When Bucky was firing at her and she was running in the streets, she screamed for people to get out of the way. Here, we have her leveling that prison without a second thought. They gave her the Wonder Woman war chrimhinhal (remove Hs) treatment.
friendly tip, you said a bullet LITERALLY grazes next to her neck? she got shot in the shoulder man. If you want people to take your terrible takes seriously you need to learn how to not be hyperbolic when standing on a soap box
Let's not pretend that character's bodies being apparently made out of granite in the MCU is something new or that you ever felt that anyone is in any danger at any point. In Civil War, if I remember correctly, she is dropped into an armored car together with a grenade, it blows up - tearing the armored door from its hinges - and she falls out unharmed with just some soot on her face. If a grenade at point blank range in an enclosed space doesn't do that trick, why would you think that anything does?
I’m sorry I still can’t get over the avalanche scene. Our “heroes” basically buried an entire prison under thousands of feet of snow with potentially broken coms and guards locked in with the prisoners. Like Mauler said, they’d be resorting to eating each other just to survive and all they did was the terrible and heinous act of doing their job and serving their prison sentence. That alone made all of them irredeemable
They even took the time to animate obvious damage and _outright_ _explosions_ happening as a result of the avalanche. You'd think that if they were dumb enough to write our 'heroes' being cool with using an avalanche like this, they would have just had the snow sweep over the compound and acted as if everything is fine aside from a layer of snow stopping them from chasing after the protagonists. It would have been stupid and obviously unrealistic, but at least it wouldn't make it abundantly clear that Natasha fecking Romanov and Sister McSisterface are cool with using mass murder as a means of escape.
The thing that bothered me most in this film was when in the Helicopter after rescuing Alexei and they casually go on about the fact the Widows are forced into having hysterectomies, robbing them of the ability to have children, they play it out like a Dad not wanting to know about his daughter's female functions, like a period joke or something, but in Age of Ultron Natasha made a big thing of being very traumatised by all of this. It is clearly something that troubled her deeply, but nah its funny how dudes get grossed out by periods and fallopian tubes and cervixes etc Aren't men immature.
@@Nerazmus How is this development when he issues and trauma were never processed or resolved in any manner? It’s never explained in Civil War that’s she’s completely over it now and she never cracked jokes about it even when other people were cracking jokes. Not even in Endgame did she crack jokes about that experience even though plenty of opportunities presented itself. She could have cracked a few jokes with Pepper when she had her daughter like, “Glad I can’t have one of THOSE lmao” that could have hinted to her being over it even after this movie happened. She isn’t over it. The writers are just such brainwashed feminist dirtbags that they genuinely think that women should just “Get over” infertility even though it deeply effects them emotionally because wanting to be a mom isn’t feminist enough. Hell, Age if Ultron got feminist backlash because how dare women be portrayed as wanting children despite the fact that they can’t and infertility isn’t even that bad because she had her career. Yeah, they did that to appease anti-natal feminists. Not because that was Natasha’s character.
Slack widow gets thrown around like a ragdoll and survives with practically no damage. Flashback to 2012; in the final battle hawkboy runs out of arrows and to escape the chi tauri coming after him he fires a grapple and swings down through a window inside a building and looks like he's about to die from that.
Huh... I just realized that they forgot that SHIELD wasn't called that back then. Another case of the writers not giving a shit about continuity. Also I enjoy the "The father" reactions in the video.
@@ksolesky2 Well I'd argue that both of those are problems, in addition to the one in cap. Marvel, since iron man came first and thus set the standard (plus being an infinitely better movie). But I guess there is a point in only counting the first instance of the retcon, and judging the others as following that new standard.
@@ksolesky2 It wasn't a retcon, the name thing in IM1 was just Coulson being obtuse about it, and so it wouldn't be obvious to the viewer what organization he was from exactly until he said it at the end of the movie.
@@BartasRapowanie No, he messed it up there, because it's a misunderstanding Mauler has had for years now (because I remember him saying it in some of his early videos). SHIELD was always called SHIELD, Coulson was giving the full name so the audience wouldn't recognize the organization immediately. Somehow Mauler and many other people took Coulson's joke about "working on the name" literally.
I’ve just realized that Natasha survived more landed attacks than Cap in any one of his movies. Her thing is combat should be evasion, not tanking. It’s the general way to not kill not-superhuman not-armored heroes in genre. And if they hit her that frequently, they must show how that fucked her up. Worked wonders in first Die Hard movies.
I wonder how this film would have turned out if it just simply explored Nat and Clint's adventures in Budapest, would have given much needed development to Hawkeye and done a great justice to Natasha and Scar Jo.
About mind control breaking and the aftereffects. I remember reading a book with a villain that had a charming magic power to mind control people. When the good guys finally found a way to break the charm and did it en masse, there was a massive wave of suicide because people remembered what they did when they were charmed. Betraying, killing, selling out their loved ones; selling out the good guys despite being with them from the beginning; killing innocent people and actually loving the bad guy etc. etc. Even the least charmed person had several days of depression for thinking how the bad guy wasnt actually bad because that thought went against their core tenets. Where did all those widows get their moral compasses, core tenets etc to understand what they experienced is bad ?
It another great example where "removing the mind control isnt an all good thing" is in Age of Steel from Doctor Who. In it, they defeat the Cybermen by disabling the emotional inhibitors within the suits. However, it allows the innocent people who were forcefully converted to see what they had been transformed into, combined with then reliving the traumatic process, having their free will stripped away and perhaps even doing it to their loved ones/innocents. As a result, all but one shut down and die from the reveal with the only person not succumbing being the Cyber Controller/Lumic who engineered the whole process
See this is the issue I take with Disney's idea of the Red Room. (and all the mind control ideas they came up with themselves instead of just using what was provided in the comics) They made it a marvel of science and magic that they were able to "brainwash" all these girls. Which means that all you need is a magic/science "cure" to fix it. But in the comics AND in reality, if you raise a person from their BIRTH to believe that killing people is not wrong, they are not being "brainwashed" they are simply being taught what to believe before their brains are formed. The black widows are sympathetic because they are humans who didn't have a chance to learn to be good. But they can't just be fixed without massive amounts of work. (In fact there is a moral argument to be made about letting them die to put them out of their misery because they cannot be cured magically) This is likely why black widows in the comics aren't saved, because Natasha isnt capable of reaching them like Clint was with her. Natasha and Clints relationship is meant to be one in a million because he was able to convince her that it was worth it to be good, and that she could be, despite everything she knew to be opposite. It was things she KNEW and did based on a morality that was taught to her. Not things she was controlled to do, yes she was abused, but her actual will was never taken from her. To beat the Red Room you have to reprogram yourself through introspection. You can't just be gassed into being a good person when you NEVER were to begin with. Thats the cool part of Natasha's back story. She was never innocent, and couldn't be good until she CHOSE to be. Despite how much more painful her life would be when she chose to take responsibility for stuff she did. She went from a guiltless life filled with other kinds of pain, to a life where she excepted guilt and got rewarded with real friendships that she didn't even expect to earn after what she did. She BECAME a good person and got rewarded. They decided though, that the red room and Hydra have the same methods of control, which don't make sense for the control they were trying to have. Red Room had traditional psychological control. Hydra while creating the Winter Soldier was trying to create a super soldier NOW so they didn't have time to raise him from birth they had to take a capable adult and ACTUALLY brainwash all his will away from him because he was already a a good person. But even with their technology he was able to break through it several times, becuase they want to tell the story in a way that you believe that Goodness cannot be taken from you! So, they had to put him in the freezer until needed. The whole point of the freezer is that total mind control of an already independent mind DOESNT WORK. It's meant to be INSPIRING. That evil has to work very hard to subdue good. The new black widow tech destroys Bucky's history, as well as Natasha's history in the blink of an eye. It destroys the themes and morals of the original comic books hey came from. They had to face realistic villains with realistic techniques to manipulate humans into doing bad things. Their paths were different but ended up in similar places having to face their issues properly over time through the comics. The movies don't want to be patient and earn that sort of thing with Ylena, so it has to be sci-fi magic. Tl;dr they want certain events to happen quickly with no time and effort on the characters so they just make up new rules, we don't get to see the characters go through anything or have permanent growth, and we can't be allowed to belive that Good has an innate upper hand against evil because good people can't be broken forever- and everything gets worse and worse because ✨️ sci-fi magic ✨️. Instead of just understanding how humans actually work in the real word and applying that to some additional sci-fi stuff. No. The sci-fi is the entire point now. Humans dont matter.
My father grew up in rural turkey, back in the 50s. When he was young, he was cutting lumber with his father and a tree trunk rolled down from a hill atop of him, literally hitting him in the face while bouncing over him. He was knocked out for good, but he obviously survived the accident. His sense of smell didn't. He never smelled anything anymore from that day onward. THAT'S the kind of force needed to sever your olfactory senses in the brain.
MCU Then: “Let’s spend over a decade making good films and buckets loads of money. MCU Now: “Now let’s spend the next decade making rubbish and let’s see much money we can lose.
They'll make much more money. your cousins. siblings. friends. coworkers. Will all eat up mindless blockbuster slop because its made for them. Its consumerism for consumers.
Imagine if Frodo and Sam are crawling their way through Mordor and they get spotted by some orcs who snarl and draw their swords charging them, and the only hope they have to escape is to kill them. Sam draws his sword to do this but Frodo shakes his head and is like "No Sam, put that away. We came here to throw the ring into Mt Doom, not stab orcs." No wonder Gimli wanted him dead.
@@Rinesmyth Imagine if Frodo and Sam get up and start walking towards Mt Doom in the distance, but then Frodo is like "Wait wait wait. Stop. Put your pack down Sam and stay where you are. We are here to throw the ring into Mt Doom, not go on a fucking hiking trip."
"As though killing the Emperor got rid of the Death Star"
Killing the Emperor didn't even get rid of the Emperor lol
Please, let's all pretend that the sequel trilogy doesn't exist, go back to legends
@@evianarsenio9146 Dark Empire
Oh my God. There is no escape. NOOOOOOO!!!
Yeah, bad writing is bad.
@TheYagonaut You mean the same one barely anyone considered as canon even back then? This included the Droid Tales. The emperor being cloned or “resurrected” was a bad idea at the time in the SWEU and it still is now. I ain’t attacking you or anything, I just can’t stand folks using that argument out of context or research. But hey, if you knew about this beforehand, more power to ya.
Do you guys remember in The Winter Soldier where everyone was seriously worried about Natasha when she was shot by Bucky and was bleeding out on the street? Man, those were the days where a character being human meant having actual stakes.
That's why The Winter Soldier will always be my favourite MCU film.
That's one of my favorites scenes in the movie *because* it made Natasha human and the Winter Soldier scary.
@@GloriousSquizoKing. It honestly felt like a scene from The Terminator or Halloween.
@S W Hell, now i'm wandering why she even got SHOT in TWS, because after all we saw her go through in Black Widow, why *wouldn't* Natasha be bulletproof, right?
Thought in the movie, the Red Guardian was actually her father which I though would explain some of the shots I saw in the trailer. The falling 7 stories, hitting everything on the way down while still landing on her feet is more believable if it turns out she's half super soldier.
Her surviving the fall in Budapest, and the fall from the Red Room, really just means she should've survived Endgame.
It's the video game boss dynamic. They can take a meteor to the face during combat and be ok, but a nick from a fingernail during the final cutscene is what kills them.
"WE'LL NEED TO THROW ME AGAIN CLINT!"
Gamora's even more durable tbh. Able to even survive the vacuum of space for a bit.
@@madladdie7069 Gamora isn't human though
Not particular.
20:34 - task master
20:44 - mask tasker
21:05 - task manager
21:27 - mask fastener
21:42 - taskerooni
23:06 - ass blaster
23:25 - scout master
23:52 - flaccid master
24:44 - podcaster
24:58 - shart master
25:26 - skull master
25:40 - tasky masty
50:32 - skull fucker
51:25 - cringe master
51:40 - master craster
51:46 - the snail
52:16 - fudge master
1:34:35 - task fucker
1:35:22 - task master
1:36:59 - flab smacker
1:47:57 - piss master
1:48:08 - shart caster
1:48:36 - tasky
1:48:45 - flap fapper
1:53:24 - fart caster
1:54:00 - the master of tasks
2:02:18 - tism master
2:02:44 - yeast plaster
2:02:56 - scrotum sucker
2:03:07 - AIDS master
2:03:16 - melon fucker
3:54:02 - task lad
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2:35:42 dumbass master
2:36:39 tug master
3:57:09 - Atony Masters
3:57:18 - Task Manager (Again)
2:35:42 - dumbass master
2:36:40 - tug master
2:41:26 - task nasty
3:57:20 - task manager
4:00:54 - task bastard
The fact that even the director said "I don't know, she just used her ingenuity I guess" to excuse a massive plot hole they clearly KNEW would be confusing and problematic is just..... amazing. Inspiring really
who needs writing when we can have post movie idiot explanations by the writers that could have fixed it.
Lets have her not leave with her family so later we can say we don't know how she got out of there lol.
It is baffling that anyone involved with the production would admit something like that in front of a camera. Jesus.
Alfred Hitchcock once said “A good movie needs three things: The script, the script, and the script”. There was a time when filmmakers heeded to that guideline. Between filming American Graffiti and principal photography of Star Wars, George Lucas rewrote 30 (3-0) drafts of that film. Contrast that with films nowadays. The Rise Of Skywalker’s shooting script was a first draft. Darren Aronofsky wrote mother! over a weekend. Is quality control not a thing anymore?
It reminds me of how the directors and writers of Endgame were fighting over whether Cap staying in the past and living life with Peggy violated the timeline or created a new reality.
I hope they make Black Widow sequels. Many of them. And in each movie, she has to beat the villain by giving herself progressively worse brain damage. That character arc would be amazing.
Hahaha! Omg. Why brain damage though? But ya know what? Knowing Disney and their greed and how stupid phase 4 is they’d probably actually do it. Seriously!
By the fifth installment it'll be called the spastic widow.
@@marlom7882 presumably from severing the nerve in every movie
@@LadySquiffington by the tenth shes a sekiro headless
I hope they make Black Widow sequel so we get more Mauler unbridled.
Aw man. Taskmaster is one of my favorite Marvel villains. In the comics his powers are so ridiculous that as a kid he was able to perfectly mimic an Olympic dive he saw on tv, but then nearly drowned because he didn’t bother to watch someone swim afterwards. He’s just the right mix of completely stupid and complete badass. It’s a shame that this movie’s taskmaster is so bland in comparison.
Woah this would have been amazing. Having him so keen on trying new moves that he doesn't bother watching the clips to their end couldve led to some amazing scenes where he has to improvise suddenly and thus looses an engagement
@@habelu6267 I completely agree. Taskmaster can fight pretty much anyone and win, but his weakness has always been his own overconfidence, and unorthodox strategy. That’s why I’m the comics he hates fighting people who are completely crazy, like Moon Knight.
Here's some world building for ya, see if you like it. What if we had Taskmaster show up as a merc/lieutenant to some of the villains. So he pops up in various films, fights some of the heroes, is ultimately defeated but lives to fight another day. Then, when you build to any kind of team-up movie - Taskmaster would present quite a threat, having fought so many of the heroes and absorbed their fighting techniques. It would be a chance to show a character become more dangerous over time - until he gets to the point where he becomes the main threat. I don't expect the new phase is going to give us anything like that.
@@notareptilianiswear.6600 Taskmaster is also so astutely observant of his opponents that he can actually inform them of flaws in their fighting style and bad habits. In a fight with Deadpool, he kept scoring hit after hit on him, and when asked how he was doing so well against him, Taskmaster simply replied, "You always dodge to the left."
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You just pointed out something very interesting. People who are mad Nat died in Endgame often say: "just because Clint had a family doesn't mean he had more of a right to live" but the fact that he has a family is exactly why Nat wants him to live. She knows what it's like to grow up without a father (which is subtly established in a throwaway line) and she doesn't want Clint's children to go through that pain. You just gave me a newfound appreciation for that scene.
huh it's almost like both characters in the scene are selfless and want to take the sacrifice themselves because they see more good in others than themselves and "deserving to live X amount" never entered the equation.
Whats funny is Gamora was in the past so shouldnt Nat be at the Cliff and simply stop her and give the stone back? Hulk claims her soul to be beyond bringing back yet Gamora is here....who was sacrificed lol
@@kool4209 That's Gamora 2014 though, Hulk tried to bring back the Natasha who sacrificed herself.
@@MercuryAlphaInc No..... they wouldve been able to stop Natasha when returning the Soul Stone........That timeline was created the moment they got that stone..... to return it they would have to go back before.....
@@kool4209 Yeah, no, if they do that then they don't get the stone the first time so they fuck themselves over later.
Then again, their timetravel makes no fucking sense what-so-ever but hey...
This film should've obviously been about her severely traumatic training, and how/why Hawkeye got her to flip and join SHIELD. That's it.
And it should've come out between Infinity War and End Game making her sacrifice more poignant
That would mean that she'd have to be led by a MAN. and the crazy feminists wouldn't like that.
Age of Ultron is where we get more insight into Widow's past. It would've been a great idea to put a Hawkeye/Widow origin film before Civil War. But nope gotta throw your female lead into the dumpster fire.
Nah, we had to have PLANK
It's insane how they missed that chance...
this. I need to say nothing more.
"Why the fuck does Daffy Duck have a stronger grasp on espionage than Black fucking Widow" beats "Even if 30 years of development explain why Luke is sheepishly sipping milk from a whalish giraffe he is stilldoing it, and that is the problem" as my favourite MauLer quote
Where’d that second quote come from?
There's nothing sheepish about it, it was *INSPIRING* and *BRAVE*
@@stygames5450 the last jedi unbridled rage
At what point in the video does he say that line about Daffy?
@@AB-dm1wz 57:42 is where the Looney Tunes cartoon is brought up.
“This isn’t a passing of the torch, it’s a torching of the past”
So far I think that’s the best summarisation of phase 4 that I’ve heard.
That was a glorious phrasing of the current situation.
I have to agree, that line was fantastic. I also love the "they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." Do not care if it's from Jurassic Park lol.
I think MauLer mentioned during the premiere that he got the quote from a HeelvsBabyface or Nerdrotic stream that he was on or when he had them as guests. I don't remember which.
also sums up star wars, star trek, ghostbusters, terminator, alien, etc. etc.
@Anony-mousse No lol. Not even close
The answer to every question of how Natasha survives is "because she cannot die yet", which results in her being able to do anything the writers and director wants
The thinng is to avoid this wonderful problem they could just avoid putting her through incidents that would obviously kill her. Instead of an explosive arrow blowing up her car he shoots out the tyres and she crashes. You still get a dramatic car crash but she wouldn't obviously be killed by it. Same with the second car explosion, just have them lose control and crash into the subway entrance after losing a tyres and her falling off that building was uneccassary as hell.
The writers of this clearly forgot that apart from being highly trained these black widows are just normal ass humans beings.
Forgot to mention when her normal ass human body gets exploded, crushed THROUGH reinforced floor off the flying base thing and then smashes through fallen debris fighting turbo brainwashed assassin after being beaten down by twenty is highly trained black widows...and isn't altered in anyway.
Like people are imbolised with pain just stubbing their toe, this woman is not human, she is some super durable alien thing.
Which is why her movie should've taken place before Endgame. But with a better story and plot.
Its the same problem people have with Sanguinius in the Horus Heresy books.
I could believe Alexi or steve surviving all this over Natasha like sheesh.
I swear I see red every time I hear Monica tell Wanda "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them", moments after these townspeople were finally able to sleep soundly/see their children for the first time in months that were filled with torture and fear inflicted BY WANDA.
Seriously, it drives me insane how they sympathize with her because she gave up her imaginary children she barely knew.
These people had their lives stolen from them and were psychologically tortured for months, not to mention the lasting mental health problems that would follow. All because of Wanda’s sitcom fantasy.
Everything is fine if you consider Wanda is a villian of WandaVision, not Agatha.
@Jarvi Blue villian? No, Monica just has stockholm syndrome in Wanda's presence. Btw, Monica did nothing evil to be a villian as I remember.
Jaque Shaffer is a hack? C'awwwn!
@@Dr.Harvey No it really isn't, because Wanda gets away with it.
*MauLer is 88% of a threat to Disney narrative incohesion.*
Where’s the other 12%?
And yet Disney have no worries turning their back on an angered Long Man, leaving themselves wide open for attack.
@@gameovervirus2384 He made fun of Taskmaster system saying that Natasha is 88% a threat.
@@gameovervirus2384 Pepper got the 12%
@@gameovervirus2384 He’s yet to reach his peak of long. There’s still another 12% left for him to grow.
David Harbour actually suggesting Alexei should sing American Pie to Yelena and it wasn’t actually in the script. This just shows that the writers had no clue how these characters should operate. The fact that the actor knew how to make a meaningful moment and the writers didn’t is insane.
Difference between someone with good parents and someone with none. Sad actually.
These Movies aren't written by storywriters but activists
exactly! how does a fucking bystander outperform trained professionals?
Speaks *tremendously* doesn’t it?
It’s almost as if he’s spent most of his career playing surrogate father figures like Hopper in Stranger Things and knows what he’s doing.
Look I don’t like the guy but I appreciate his craft when it comes to acting and I genuinely think Alexei had potential if the writers cared.
Like that scene is really good and showed that Alexei cared about his surrogate daughters in a really sincere and touching way. A commie super soldier singing a song literally called “American Pie” because some kid pretending to be his child liked it.
It was quite possibly the only scene I liked in this film and the fact that it wasn’t even intended at the start is the most bittersweet thing I’ve ever heard.
“They’ll never know what you sacrificed for them” says the person who directly benefited from what Wanda did
LMAO
LOL 😂
I love how they discovered the hex was mutating the inhabitants and not a single person seemed concerned about that one mutation that kills people slowly and horribly called "cancer" that would be an effective method of giving the story lasting consequences and- no apparently taking all of their freedom away was ok because the only product of a mutation we saw was superpowers, thank you wanda for giving thousands of people superpowers after keeping them hostage for a week
I just want to remind everyone that, according to Veto's logic, the reason Nat's car didn't explode in the explosion is because the explosion moved the car away from the explosion, thus clearing the car safe of the explosion. By the explosion.
...What? The fuck?
Her gas tank ignites there's no question
I think ill stick with tribnibashabadipressure and babdcalf care
Meanwhile, Dreykov was killed by an explosion because...I guess he was too fat to be safely thrown away from it?
I used the explosion to explode the explosion.
Bucky was the only one to actually feel any type of remorse for his actions while brainwashed and that's why I like him so much
@@CrySomeMorePlease facts. His dialogue in falcon and winter soldier was fucking stupid. He was sidelined and wrote off as a dumb sidekick in his own show. Then made his character apologize for being racist towards Sam when that literally was never an issue before.
@@peterparker9214 I smell a red pilled incel
@@CrySomeMorePlease when does he ever say sorry for being racist?
@@jamesgratz4771 "guys I called someone an incel pls give reddit gold"
@Punished Phimosis Jones lol triggered?
“This isn’t a passing of the torch, but a torching of the past.”
Brilliant line, MauLer.
@Teleportdinero Literally who
seriously his videos have more thought put into scripts than the fucking movies LMAO
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
@@alessandrorinaldi842 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
@@DarkEcho119 Mr 28 subscribers person….his line only works if at least 1 of 28 people who are subbed are in the comment section at the exact moment he types it. I doubt the line works very often….
Idk why this still bothers me but I can't get over how Alexi was the perfect character to fight taskmaster because his sober drunken fist can't be copied and would likely confuse the copy cat. Idk how the writers didn't see this easy W to make his character's usefulness in the movie feel complete. But as it is it seems he was just along for the ride and wasn't entirely necessary.
Cus then it would be a man beating up a woman, and dozens of articles clickbaiting a controversy would come out. Your idea is good, but the mouse has to be pure.
Also hes a supersoldier fucking up a lot of counters and combat styles
Can you imagine the moment Task Manager tries to pull some Judo shit and throw Alexi only for him to not even budge, laugh and toss her across the room.
And she keeps trying, cycling through all the 'skilled' moves she's got and he just keeps powering through them.
Leg sweep? Feels like she just kicked a tree stump.
Straight arm bar? He just rolls his shoulders and lifts her off the ground.
Hell she might try BW's hurricanrana only for him to take a step to ground himself and instead of being thrown he drives her into the floor while she's wrapped around his arm.
And then she pulls the sword and he's forced to play defensively, maybe use some equipment around the room and she just cuts through it for the joke, then corral her into position for the cell trap.
@@CrazyGunMan100that would’ve been cool.
@@CrazyGunMan100That would've been too smart for these writers to come up with, way too smart
"This isn't a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past."
Hot damn that's a good line. And applicable to so many modern sequels and spinoffs.
Applicable to pretty much anything in the modern day
@@Rinesmyth there are good movies and songs and all types of art created in the modern age. It’s just that people tend to gravitate towards the popular thing. You just have to dig deep to find gold.
@@DevolaPopola I don’t even know if we can assume people gravitate to what’s popular… I think that’s just what we get saturated with, sadly.
Like a mountain of shit is hiding a small pile of gold.
@@DevolaPopola oh without a doubt there's still gold in the river, but that gold is now but a few crumbs, and it dwindles by the day; unless there's a gold streak a mile deep, waiting to be found, not much more will come from the stream.
@@DevolaPopola Like what? Songs, sure, there's a few. But films? Nah. A rare few European indie productions, that's about it. I was born in 2001, and even I'm wondering what the fuck happened to masterpieces like The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly, and Schindler's List. What's the best film past 2010? Joker? I'd say so. That's about the only good film in over a decade, one that genuinely had me shaken in awe and completely satisfied with what I'd witnessed.
And ironically the film was made on a $10M budget instead of a $150-450M one. It was also made by a director who specifically made it because he was a comedian, and in this cancerous woke era, comedy isn't allowed because it's offensive. When you read the backstory, you basically discover that Todd Phillips is Arthur in that film. The film is good because it deliberately and fiercely rejected the same toxicity that poisons nearly all other productions these days. It is a rare exception made on purpose. We likely won't see that again until the entire culture changes, if it ever does which looking at it isn't likely.
"The only natural resource the world has too much of...GIRLS"
I'm sorry that's the funniest line in cinema. Did a Saturday morning cartoon bully write that? 🤣
Either that or someone on Twitter who is against gender equality
@@MariOmor1 more like someone writing a straw-man to tear down
Heck,I love the womens.
Is it me or it has "the most oppressed group of all - GAMERS'' vibes.
Sounds like a quote from an incel.
The Black Widows are such good spies they wear uniforms with a black widow logo on them.
I swear, they probably watched too many James Bond movies and have completely forgotten what an ACTUAL spy work is.
Wait, what am I saying? They didn't forget, they just never even knew.
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*"And this idea was presented to us as carefully as buttering your toast WITH AN ANVIL."*
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how absolutely, bizarrely hilarious this line is? It's amazing.
MauLer in a nutshell.
Longman's got that British sense of humour.
*I request a time stamp*
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The hints they gave to Natasha's past in the previous movies were great, made the "Red Room" sound terrifying and mysterious. This movie took that entire idea of a super secret and torturous assassin organization and turned them into clowns in a flying clown castle.
Leave it to Disney to totally kneecap a potentially badass backstory opportunity.
It’s funny because in Agent Carter they briefly visit the red room and it’s terrifying
They did? That's interesting, I was really hoping they'd make the Red Room some kind of generic Cold War bunker or some mansion in the mountains. Not a shitty flying turd.
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@Knox2Don Now wouldn't THAT have been a movie?!?!?! Could you imagine? Us getting a movie surrounding everything that happened with Natasha growing up? We could've seen her grow up in that torturous hell hole known as the Red Room and see her evolve into the cold assassin she started off as before Clint got to her. It would've been a great psychological drama but since it was Disney, NOOOOOOO.
What a WASTED opportunity.
@@tashaglam4824 I think that's an interesting point made by (I believe) MauLer and others like E;R. More often than not, a backstory is not relevant to the story at hand. Anything we can fathom of the Red Room would likely be more terrifying than whatever they put to the screen. Prequels are so often worse than their original work because they fill in holes our collective imaginations can fill in better, and often are irrelevant to the story being told. They try to do something like Dottie in Agent Carter, but usually end up doing a Nick Fury's eye in Captain Marvel.
My biggest problem with Taskmaster/Drakov's daughter was she has a legitimate reason to want to kill Natasha. Making it resolve by she was just under mind control was such a missed opportunity. For a movie about Natasha trying to clear her ledger, it was the perfect opportunity to have Natasha face the reality that not all of her victims would forgive her just because she said she was sorry. I would have loved for Drakov's daughter to keep trying to kill Natasha after Natasha threw the magic gas in her face. The movie needed that, among the myriad of things also listed in this review.
Pretty similar to Tony wanting to kill Bucky for murdering his.parents despite knowing Bucky was under mind control and would have been a bittersweet end to her lesson. Sad they didn't think that.
Because wahmen have to stick together👱♀️👩🦰👩
that's amazing. what a great idea.
"I sprayed the fart gas in your face, you're free now!"
"Don't care. Hop on the sword."
Kind of like Bucky’s abandoned arc in Falcon and Winter Soldier, where he had his list of people he owed redemption to for his crimes. Which was great, until it was dropped and barely acknowledged in the finale.
One of the most offensively bad parts for me was when they turned the sterilisation of the sister into a joke/gross-out gag. Regardless of your thoughts on this in real life, in the context of the films, this was something Natasha struggled with really hard and had a very poignant scene with Bruce I think talking about it. It's almost like they're trying to sabotage everything they've done on purpose at this point.
I hate to sound like a conspiracy nut, but I remember a while ago there was some Twitter Drama over that aspect of Natasha's character. The writer of an article (if I remember correctly) essentially said that it was a message to young girls and women that you aren't a real woman if you can't have kids. Thus, this aspect of Natasha's character was reductive, sexist and should not be tolerated. Of course I don't believe that, but it could be due to this kind of percieved backlash that they played off references to her being infertile as a joke. Bringing this kind of idea seriously, into your strong wamen protagonist film, would not get the feminists on side.
@@AsperTheGhost I've seen that too. I can't remember exactly where I heard this, but I think some people have indeed praised this film for referencing the sterilization only as a joke.
@@DuneStone6816 If they have praised it for that, as Mauler said, they aren't morally intelligent enough to watch Postman Pat.
Yeah, I don't know how it is cool to joke about a woman who had her body mutilated against her will.
I can't sympathize since I just sterilized myself recently
I don't think you'll ever see this, but I wanna be serious about something. You've really helped me see a lot of issues in story telling and a lot of important notes. Before I didn't even notice more than half of these issues in the movie, mainly because I was brain dead throughout its entirety lol. As someone who wants to write stories in the future, whether or not making good ones (I hope they'll be good), I gotta say your channel was still a lot of help with teaching me what to do and what not to. And I appreciate that, genuinely.
Same! He helped me a lot too.
He didn't help me one bit, except with knowledgeable critiques and writer fixes.
Same my thoughts and way of looking at things drastically improved after i started watching movie critics like mauler, critical drinker the closer look etc.
Why are you waiting? Start now!
Oh god they gave Taskmaster the X-men origins Deadpool treatment. An actual character people like has been turned into a mute mindless drone and the only thing that carried over was, “can fight.”
I remember when i was younger and watched in awe as some strange man in a white cloak and skull mask mirrored an matched Spiderman in straight combat. The only way Spiderman beat him is by using something the man couldn't have expected, and it was clear that Spiderman would slowly run out of options against the unstoppable, learning, evolving monster behind the mask.
A fucking kids show gets Taskmaster right. It makes me sick that they killed him off for a reveal that made no sense. They burnt a perfectly good villain to the ground.
Excluding Zemo, Loki, and Enchantress, who's been absolutely bitch slapped by their shows, they've killed off or pissed on pretty much every villain that's been shown in the MCU.
They'll run out of iconic source villains at this rate.
A smart, wisecracking, mercenary, with skills that can make him alone a match for the likes of Captain America in hand to hand combat, with legendary weapons and gear, made into this.
As a Taskmaster fan, I am officially irate.
yeah and i fucking hate it. Taskmaster has such decent backstory that can be shaped any which way but no, here's a fucking mindless drone action person.
Taskmaster, a villain that's incredibly intelligent yet also surprisingly quirky regarding his various choices of mimicry and prediction for a dangerous yet fun character who the heroes always have to think outside the box to ever hope to beat when encountering him...was reduced to a mentally comatose brainlet that never says a word whose entire power isn't his/hers, but that of a computer chip in a way where "Task-memer" (i refuse to call that embarrassment Taskmaster), can be replaced with literally anyone with said chip in their neck.
Holy shit...not only has Black Widow been reduced to a dime-a-dozen replaceable joke but so has Taskmaster. They replaced him with a fucking computer chip that isn't even a sentient AI or anything.
Ooooo does that mean Task Manager will eventually get his own movie where he's a wise cracking dude making fun of this version? Can't wait!
Seriously, why wasn’t this movie just a prequel? We could’ve watched a tense, emotional, action-packed movie about Clint and Natasha meeting and then working together to take down Drakov. It would properly set up her character arc in the future and give us a good farewell, knowing what she will accomplish in the future. Instead we got this lol
And get more character from Clint but nooooooooo
Can't launch new chars this way.
at least no one was crying over this like they were with Black Panther. and thats the reason this movie is okay....no one expected anything from it, and no one sold it as anything great. it is what it is....unlike black panther, which was a trash-heap sold as a gem that soooo many ppl had been waiting all these years for. why mauler spent so much time on this movie, i dunno...
Seems like no one really gets this but this is a women-power-movie. It sacrifies everything in order to have "strong independent females". You can't put a normal man in such a movie, especially not as a protagonist.
To prove my point, lets see which men are in the movie:
1) Antagonist: a women hating and hitting choleric
2) Red Guardian: dumb fat pig, only cares about himself and about fighting, neglegted his family
3) Helicoper Delivery Guy: "the good man" who does everything for women with no gain at all, white knight, typical friendzone material
This movie just hates men and ruins the entire plotline multiple times just to picture men as useless, stupid and women as the only answer to everything (while also protraying them as mindcontrolled victims for some reason).
It's garbage, don't think about it. It's the same as suicide squad, female ghost busters version, parts of the series "(teen) titans" (on netflix) and so, so many others. Even Star Wars went down this road atleast partially.
Wouldn't be a problem if the movies were good, but for some reason, they are all complete garbage. Maybe the ones making those movies "for women" actually think that women don't care about logic? IDK.
@Brad Thomas Kinda reminds me of Rian Johnson's take on multiple of the women he directed. Especially Holdo and Rose as is originals.
Mauler's different names for Taskmaster are funnier and more interesting than anything in the movie.
If mauler's jokes are more interesting than the movie, you know it's shit.
Hands down the highlight of the entire movie. Mauler could make a movie just mocking taskmaster and pull in more revenue then this shit show.
@@lqlaliut897 well I mean to be fair mauler’s insults are legendary. I think he called someone brain dead muffin I love it
@@marlom7882 let’s not forget mongaloidic bum cheese and cock salad.
@@sithisarcanis love it
This man casually points out GAPING plot holes that even I feel dumb for not noticing lmao
Don't feel too bad, the movies are designed to quickly speed between points, and throw up distracting smokescreens, allude to answers they never provide, and count on you filling in gaps they couldn't come up with to cover their own messes.
As an aside, possible additional example, and neat video you might like if you like this stuff. There's a Fire Emblem youtuber named Mekkah that did a Plinkett Reviews inspired dissection of Fire Emblem 7, called, iirc, Fire Emblem 7 Is the Worst Thing Since My Son, and that game actually has a lot of similar plot issues, inconsistencies, and trends that a lot of modern films do.
Gaping plot holes, characters with convoluted plans that exist to get characters into place for their dramatic moments, weird have your cake and eat it too portrayal of a faction of assassins as both a lovable band of found family, and a nation toppling shadow council that kills its own for not just failure, but partial success, while also being a highly elite, best of the best that kills the mere best, group that fields small armies of disposable, low skill fodder, moronic, redundant plans to make for setpieces, and more.
Might be neat, even if you don't particularly care for the series, just to see the same flavors in a different medium.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 you saying i should turn of my interlect off in order to watch the movie? Ok👌
Even you???
@@akandeogundimu4541 Maybe you should turn on your “interlect” before writing a comment.
@@akandeogundimu4541 he's saying the movie tries to turn it off itself without giving you a say in the matter
You know you’ve been around this channel for a while when you’re not even looking at the screen, but you can still “hear” Mauler playing the green milk clip.
"anyway"
UGGUGUGUGUGUGU
*sigh with Tony Stark eye roll* is one too
The GOT dude stare
Srsly, WHAT THE F***??? :D
I can't even watch that clip without hearing "what the FUCK"
Imagine if Alexei had to fight task master mimicking Cap. That would be an actual conclusion to an arc of him lying about having fought him, only to have to fight him "for real"
ONE MORE FOR THE FANS!
XD
But that would mean character development. And we all know that Alexei's role is nothing but slapstick and being constantly thrown under the bus.
@@dannypalin9583 Painfully accurate
I watched a video that he fought "a cap" but it may not have been "the cap" it seems likely that was the case to me
I'm not entirely sure he is lying about him though. I mean look at how he asked Natasha if he ever talked about him, I really think he does believe that he once fought Cap. My theory is that they'll eventually introduce the William Burnside Captain America (a retconned character Marvel came up with to explain the Captain America comics from the 1950's, when he would have been frozen), saying that he took up Cap's mantle during the final years of the Cold War to go on covert missions.
"this phase isn't a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past"
What a line, fantastic as usual.
Debatable on that considering I heard people like the shows.
@@achaudhari101 Are you seriously pulling a "it's popular so it must be good" vomit?
@Kel P Better than thinking an average movie means “everything is ruined” trope I’m seeing.
@@achaudhari101 It's a bad movie and 3 mediocre shows one after another, sharing a good amount of problems, I've never seen the MCU go on a bad strike like this. I can only think of Iron Man 3 followed by Thor 2 in phase 2 and Ant-Man and the Wasp followed by Captain Marvel in phase 3 but this is something else, specially in a transition phase when they should get things mostly right so the upcoming, actually interesting stories of important characters can have a good foundation, which isn't the case here.
At least What If has been fine but it's just a procedural show so that's not very important for the overall thing.
Also just because people like it that doesn't mean it's good (?). Game of Thrones was going down since season 5, s6 just sunk it deeper but there were jokes, explosions and fan-service and the fans pointing out how none of it made sense were annoying book readers until s7-8 hit and “oh no, all of a sudden this show became terrible, what could've gone wrong?” See the problem? I hope I'm wrong and this is just an abnormally long strike of bad IPs but I don't know.
Yeah i was kind of dissapointed finding out he didn’t come up with it but it’s a very fitting line
I do find it funny that Nat thinks that Drakov's daughter is "still in there", trying to free her from the mind control (getting past how stupid mind control saving an explosion victim is). Nat exploded her, Drakov's daughter should want to brutally murder Nat regardless of the mind control
She should yeah.
"I know you're still in there, hating me with every fiber of your being, genuinely!..."
That would've been an awesome twist. The last-minute reveal that Taskmaster wasn't under any mind control and had a vendetta with Nat would be amazing.
This movie did not deserve a 4 hour breakdown. Not because "long video bad" but because thats more effort than went into writing the script.
Fully agree
But I won’t complain with quality like this!
never a reason to not make something of high quality, in a way I like that more because it's a spit in the face of this joke of a movie
Probably the most fundamental and disrespectful thing this travesty of a movie did was stomp on the back of Black Widow well after the character died, and made her the most boring Widow of them all, in attempt to propel her sister character into the spotlight. Cynical and manipulative.
Bucky got more respect than Natasha... I like both, but man oh man that realisation stings.
And seeing how many people claimed the sister was the best part. They may have gotten away with it.
@@hobodog7758
Well, it's acceptable on a subjective level...
Like, don't take it the wrong way, it's still sub-par caracters with caked-on cutesy humor with lamp-shading galore, yet "compared to the rest" I can see why most people would find something likable in this generic "snarky little sister" type.
It's not like those cray-cray saying they loved brutal Wonder Woman in Snyder Cut "because the normal one is too weak sauce". That I'll never understand.
Ps: Anyone can enjoy either versions of Wonder Woman, sure, but people saying all she was missing was to start busting skulls weren't paying attention, she was always doing it... They just wouldn't paint the walls red in the other movies/versions.
Just wanted to be precise.
But that shouldn’t be possible! Only male characters get made incompetent and character assassinated for new female characters
@@marlom7882
"Tell that to Natasha/Zod's snapped neck!"
Bilbo Skywalker
You know, everyone hates that Yelena killed hundreds of prisoners and guards so easily and thoughtlessly but maybe it could work to her advantage. It's been drilled in her to do whatever it takes to complete a mission. It's all she's ever known. These guards are obstacles in the way of her mission so she chooses to just kill them all.
It could be eye-opening to Natasha to be like, "You're supposed to be a hero now, this isn't what heroes do. We don't kill everyone in our way. This isn't the red room anymore." It could shake her, make her wonder if she can trust her sister.
I don't know, if could be an interesting development.
I agree. I never had a problem with Yelena because to me that's just her personality, she's never had to be a good person. Her LEARNING to be one is a good character arc, I think.
And it could be fixed if Natasha called 911 (or 112 in Russia) and told them the prison coordinates to dig them out...
You don't kill hundreds of prisoners and prison guards AFTER the guy you wanted to rescue has been rescued, that's asinine. Also it happened due to an unforeseen event, her mistake was to laugh about it and not try to help.
I think the saddest part is the whole "no one would have wanted to see a woman headlining a superhero film back in the day" when in reality fans for YEARS have been asking for, nay PLEADING for a Black Widow film.
But no, the fans are the sexist ones for hating this crappy film, not the producers who had so little faith in a female lead.
Go screw yourselves, Marvel/Disney
Anyway, Great video as always Mauler, and I look forward to the next Marvel dumpster fire review.
The fans had been begging for Black Widow film since 2016 after Civil War.
Then Marvel just gave us Captain Marvel instead.
And when they finally gave us Black Widow, it was 2 years after she was dead and it was mainly YELENA’S movie.
What an insulting way to treated Natasha Romanoff’s character.
@@nont18411Fans have been begging for Nat movie since Avengers Age of Ultron - when Wanda gave Natasha visions of the Red Room. People were genuinely editing "movie trailers" based just on that one scene. It's ridiculous that we got Captain Marvel movie first, considering you don't need the context of her story to understand Endgame at all. Just give us 2 minute explanations of her powers. Nat is not only one of the oldest characters but imo much more interesting and complex.
"How do you fuck up tic tac toe!?"
It's this attention to detail that keeps me coming back
"How do you fuck up tic tac toe"?
I think you just gave away the first question they ask when they interview you for the job of directing a Marvel movie.
Oh my God. MauLer you are the ONLY person I've seen call out the fact that Marvel keeps having their heroines literally cheer while causing actual mass murder. My circle of friends and family never react to this the way I do. Thank you so much.
THAT'S SO WOMEN!!
Wasn't it Hunger Games wherein female resistance leader bombed women/kids to frame the govt to gain power?
Also, abortion.
@Jarvi Blue
What became of the female scientist in Wonder Woman?
If memory serves, she too was spared cos "men made her do evil deeds"...
Just hit Mauler describing the mom/Raquel Weiss - villain personified, plays the victim though actively victimising, created a device to make people do what she wants...
It’s shocking to have someone murder hundreds then cheer whilst doing so. You’d expect it to be somber, quiet and whilst a bit relieved the action is over in thought. A moment of silent, a reflection inwards. Instead it’s like WOOO EXPLOSIONS. Which can work in some movies but not when you know these characters, not when you’ve been through what they’ve been through and what their story and lore is. Be consistent with a characters legacy or just fuck off and start a new character like they clearly not. Don’t use the prior characters legacy as a jump board to launch your new character to the forefront it’s disrespectful to what came before
@@darrengordon-hill no wonder Katniss killed her.
I feel the movie would have been infinitely better if there was an actual character foil. Everyone in this movie kept telling Natasha how special and right she is. Like what if the movie started with Yelena seeking out Natasha for help with the Red Room, but Yelena wants to murder them all to ensure the Red Room is defeated? Yelena learned through her abuse and conditioning that only violence can solve conflicts, whereas Natasha was trying to redeem herself as peacefully as possible by freeing the Widows. Forget Drakov or whatever his name is. Having him alive just gives a cheap, "kill him and the problem is solved" gimmick.
Then the final conflict could have been Natasha v Taskmaster v Yelena. Taskmaster is trying to kill Natasha for having killed the Red Room's founder, and Natasha is trying to subdue Taskmaster while fending off Yelena who is trying to kill Taskmaster. Then, the abuse and trauma of the Red Room would be an actual antagonist rather than punchlines or passing mentions. Natasha could still redeem herself for almost killing Drakov's daughter in the past by protecting her in the present, Natasha would have had a character foil in Yelena, Yelena could have still switched to the good side in the end, and any redemptions that occurred wouldn't have been based on some stupid mind-control contrivance.
Fuck you're right. They totally missed a chance to have Natasha play the role of an older sister and mentor to this newly-released black widow who doesn't yet know how to work for the good guys. And it would fit well with the whole passing of the torch idea. But oh well, they can't show female character growing because they can't assign them genuine faults or character flaws.
Yeah but then you can't get fun and quirky sister scenes! Fuck good characters we gotta have that sweet quipping.
What, so an actual conflict rather than a series of fights?
We can't have good writing on modern marvel movies.
Even better if instead of the stupid fake found spy family, Lena and Nat are actually blood related via their mom and two different dads, making them half sisters (and explaining why they look very, very different lol).
I also think they really didn't think through the whole "Draykov is/was a sexist" because...It's so weird that of all things, the practical heir to the evil misogynistic megalomaniac...Is a girl...And he just...Accepts that...
It's almost like Draykov's actions kinda dispell this whole idea that he's a sexist only for the writers to make him pretend that he's sexist to get women in the audience to hate him...Instead of just hating on him for TORTURING CHILDREN??? Nah, he said there are two many girls on the planet that's far worse than torture now a days apparently...
See if they write Draykov to actually be intimidating with leverage, they would give Draykov multiple children until he had at least two sons but possibly even more if you wanna say he had that much game. The real antagonist would be the Red Room but also the whole concept of legacy, family and children. Because that's the core of Nat's character.
Forcing her to question how much blood relationships really matter would be a far better character arc than... Whatever this is...
Your conclusion for Alexei perfectly demonstrated how these types of Hollywood writers view men. On the one hand, they hate how distant and emotionless men are, but they also ruthlessly mock any man who tries to share his actual feelings. They just hate men, and use men’s minor flaws as excuses for their hatred
The sheer amount of organizations that have "controlled the flow of history" in the MCU is mind boggling. And we just got a new one with the Mandarin's Ten Rings which has apparently conquered everything since ancient times.
Now even eternals fucked everything up
Theres gonna be way fucking more in the future trust me lmao
The marvel comics are terrible that way with a clusterfuck of secret organisations that all simultaniously control the world. Look forward to it getting even worse.
I mean by the ending of Loki it’s always been Kang for some reason in the mcu even though the TOAA exists in the mcu so that’s weird
It kinda reminds me of the first five minutes of every Transformers film.
The scene where Natasha sploojes the Anti-Brainwashing sparkles in Antonia's face would have been so much more impactful if it had had no effect. If the entire movie we had gotten used to the fact that this substance was an instant-character change pixie dust, but here in the climax we discover that Antonia wasn't brainwashed, she just loved her evil father and hated the assassin who tried to kill her to get to him. What a twist!
Yup, they could have even milked it with a sequel too if they went with it. But that requires writing talent and removing wokness from the script, something phase 4 certainly lacks in the former.
Yes! I like that idea.
I got chills reading this. That's a fantastic idea.
@@harlan7012 let’s not write off all of phase 4. Although wandavision was awful and FATWS was subpar, lowkey was pretty good and I heard Shang chi was great
I thought this same thing about the mist not working on her. Not that she likes killing but bc her father installed a different type control on her that can't be reversed
Widow calling herself Black Widow would be like Finn in SW calling himself “Stormtrooper” to remind himself of his time as a brainwashed child soldier/killer.
Its the "ghost of spartha" all over again...only worse
@@SIGNOR-G Ghost of Sparta?
The only character I knlw with that nickname is Kratos, and he diesnt use it for himself.
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 didnt he used it some times? There was even a spin off called like that
@@SIGNOR-G Others called him that.
The spinoff was a psp game featuring his brother if I remember right.
Or Captain marvel wearing the kree symbol on her outfit even after she knows that the kree are evil but she keeps it in the comics and so on.
We need the Warbird outfit back.
It’s like each main character is in the same film but somehow a different genre.
•Alexi is in a comedy
•Yelena is in a YA drama thriller
•Natasha is in a superhero action movie
•Melina is playing a scientist in a dark action drama
•And Dreykov feels like some villain from a high octane action series that jumped the shark a few entries ago
Then you have Taskmaster who is wasted as a power-set AND character. Not saying Tony Masters is some brilliant example of flawless character work in the comics but they used his powers, name and basic design and slapped it over a literal fucking drone who ends up being used simply to expunge a chunk of red from Nat’s ledger at the end
Dreykov feels like he’s out of the Golden or Silver Age with how insane and campy he is or a sci-fi TV movie.
Hallmark presents: The Black Widow, a spy-thriller with heart, and comedic moments, like explaining in graphic detail what a hysterectomy is!
@ferrarriohh
They could of made it all work, but couldn't cuz they're incompetent.
"if you think they deserve it because they are prisoners or law enforcement, then you aren't mature enough to watch postman pat." Epic line
I'm going to use this one XD
This is true, if Marvel was smart, they'd do a complete reset. Aka.... start with a singular small story that balloons to something huge while still connected to the past..
@TheGkmasta If you throw a ball and it hits somebody on the head which causes them to stumble on the street to be crushed to a bloody pulp by a SemiTruck, would you argue that its just a thing that happened? It was a consequence of their Actions. Not sure why such a concept is so hard to understand.
@@adrenjones9301 whoops
After avalanche they make jokes about killing literally everyone because thats what heroes do
People shit on Mauler for always being so negative but I don't think I could call anyone a bigger superfan of the properties he roasts than him. He has extensive knowledge and love for these movies and characters and you don't spend 4 and a half hours bitching about something you don't absolutely adore. Good video.
I was going to say lol that makes so much sense now
I used to be an avid MCU fan and then I felt they weren’t going any sensible direction. Good to know it wasn’t just me. Mauler’s got a very fanatic view of this world and now we all feel the same sinking sense of cringe at the squeezing of the money sponge.
I think they do a better than reasonable job at continuity despite a demanding fan base though, and make a concerted effort to balance things where they need balance, but you can’t please everyone and trying to hurts the integrity of the films. It might just be Disney, look at Star Wars, they basically copied episode 4 and dumped a Mary Sue in there and then just sort of minimally wrote scripts glazed over with amazing (mostly) special effects and took advantage of fan loyalty in every possible way, but did them no justice at the same time imo. Disney has lots of money and always some kind of agenda, are they the EA of movies, I wonder?
Average MCU fan vs Average animated marvel enjoyer
MauLer has yet to post a review/critique of something I've actually watched or even know the first thing about. The films, series etc. themselves don't interest me. However, storytelling and writing do -- and so does MauLer's passion and knowledge. That is why I can spend hours listening to and watching reviews of things I honestly couldn't give a toss about. That speaks to his talent.
At least in Captain America: the Winter Soldier, Natasha had the basic knowledge of attempting to blend with a crowd and wearing a hood, which she could have tried let alone disguising herself
Those magic „I get another person's face and voice masks" would have been mighty useful throughout her undercover time...
On the subject of Loki. Anyone remember when he was smart enough to take advantage of Thor’s fear and adrenaline in the first Avengers to get him trapped in Hulk’s cell? We’d be lucky to get something as good as that now.
Imagine being a biggest worldwide media corporation in 2021, and yet use the same 90's style "sp00ky s0v1et mumbling" instead of normal russian
they couldve at least gone all the way and have them speak in heavy-style broken english, that wouldve at least been entertaining smh
Typical Hollywood
@@unpopularopinions7407 "Some people think they can outsmart me, maybe, *sniff* maybe.
But I have yet to one who can outsmart Big smell"
-Dreykov Baggins
For real the accents sound horrible
Borscht Baba Yaga’s babushka, comrade.
"Phase 4 isn't passing of the torch. It's torching of the past."
The Longman is a goddamned poet.
Expect he didn't come up with that line; he got it from a superchat.
@@mr.barcode3186 cudos to the super-chatter, then. Chat has it's moments.
@@mr.barcode3186 superchat-kun is a god-damned poet.
As if the other phases were good?
@@CabezasDePescado Most were entertainment that anyone could enjoy at least.
"How do we get this Tony Masters guy to believably be an agent of the Red Room"
By... by paying him.
He's a mercenary.
I even saw one person say that they could have paid Taskmaster to train the Widows cause of his skills. How did they fuck this up so bad?
@@Nassit-Gnuoy it’s not about logic, it’s about replacement. They wanted a sympathetic woman in the role because you can’t redeem a white man. They just needed to hammer that fucking subtle abuse of women theme in as hard as possible.
A masked man...
@@JeffTheBunnySlayer If anyone had an issue with Taskmaster being white, they could've based his appearance on his Ultimate Universe counterpart (he looks... Hispanic in that 1610 version?). But yeah, him being hired as a trainer would have been several thousand times better. And if you wanted to add some intrigue (as well as a nod to his role as a SHIELD Agent), you could intergrate his history with Natasha with him not remembering her at all. Maybe Natasha is aware that because of his powers, Taskmaster is still technically a SHIELD Agent but doesn't know it? Plus the film would've been a great oppurtunity to seed the idea of a future school where Taskmaster teaches other villians to fight using the styles of the Avengers!
@@Nassit-Gnuoy Fuck, he could just have been paid for, oh i don't know, *protecting the main bad guy* , that already would've been more logical.
"How do you fuck up tic tac toe, you gnome?" Lol this was hilarious. One of my favorite lines in this review, along with the Taskmaster names.
“Go back to sleep drinker” that killed me 😂😂😂😂
This movie made me want to drink a bottle of Toilet Duck and go back to sleep.
One thing is clear: Your videos are so well narrated and produced and written that PEOPLE ARE ACCTUALLY QUOTING A 4 HOUR AND 17 MINUTE VIDEO BECAUSE THE LISTENED TO THE WHOLE THING AND IT MADE THEM FEEL FEELINGS. A truly marvelous job!
Yeah, watching a comedy skit is a hell of a lot more entertaining than watching a rotting, bone dry cash cow hobble on four game legs until it finally is allowed the sweet release of death.
I wouldn't, but when you start, you can't stop hearing...
It's better than the movies script by far. 👍👏
Yep that is one of the biggest indicators that a video is great where people are actually watching it lol
@@goodname9371 I mean people sometimes don't want to watch a 10 minute UA-cam video till the end. But this isn't a ten minute video °¬°
As thick of a plot armor Batman has, in Justice League: Unlimited, he at least has the self-awareness to call in other members of the Justice League while in freefall to save him, admitting, "I can't fly."
I guess he should've spawned a parachute.
How DC can produce JLU/JL comics and also produce the DCEU is a thing to be investigated... scientifically.
@@anomonyous oh for sure, I was just referencing that one episode he had to jump out of a jet without any flying gadgets in JLU
@@Willowy13 Different people. That's how. That and also less meddling from higher ups.
@@Willowy13 absolute TRUTH. It's a stonishing to me how the DC animated stuff can be so good, yet their live action stuff SO BAD...
The plot armor for pain tolerance in Black Widow, she has more of a pain tolerance than the freaking Punisher, who’s superhuman in pain tolerance.
I swear Natasha had severe plot armor. Even steroids Harry Osborne in Spiderman 3 didn't TANK his fall like that. He legit passed out and lost his memories
And stopped breathing. Peter had to take him to the hospital to save his life, Widow didn’t even break anything
She should’ve died in literally all the movie she’s played in. Especially when she hijacks one of those speeding hovercraft in avengers 1? Should’ve straight up killed her on impact.
I miss those movies.
That's because, in spite of it's flaws, Spider-Man 3 is a better movie in every conceivable regard. The generally agreed upon low-point of the original Spider-Man movies is still miles above... Can we just say most of the post-Infinity War MCU?
You know I was fine not caring; but then MauLer had to remind me how good everything used to be and now I’ve gone from passively annoyed to actively pissed off
Same
And I'm just disheartened
Those comparisons to the first Avengers movie really drove it home...like damn what a character assassination.
The most impressive part of this video is the sheer quantity of nicknames for Task Master
I want someone to comment all of them
@@aleka8612 me too
@@aleka8612 definitely not gonna take time out of my day to comment EVERY single one of them but Taskbastard, Task Manager & Pod Caster are the ones I remember the most it's fucking hilarious 😂😂😂
I'm partial to "fart-blaster"
@@jonbaxter2254 piss master and task manager are great
Hi MauLer, I just want to say how much I appreciate that you always make an effort to talk about unnecessary casualties caused by "heroes". You do it it a lot in your Star Wars sequel videos as well, and your Postman Pat line in this video was perfect. I appreciate it because it's something that always bothers me: when main characters are that careless with innocent lives and the movie never seems to care. I don't usually see other reviewers / youtubers commenting on that, so when I see you do it, and spend a good chunk of time discussing it, it really helps me to not feel crazy, and no one explains it better than you.
Agreed! I've always been bothered by tye insane amounts of collateral damage in these types of movies. At least earlier MCU movies cared a little--they mention relief efforts to help people caught up in the Avengers' struggles by an organisation funded by Tony Stark in one or two of the movies, and when Wanda threw a bomb into an apartment building in Civil War, it actually mattered.
@@5h0rgunn45 It's funny we take forgranted the trope of "the angry police chief" - but it's an interesting illustration that even some of the most asinine 80s and 90s action flicks had enough self-awareness to know that the wanton choices of their protagonists had consequences and that people would ask about them.
It's even funnier how insanely stupid people have become in just two to three decades.
NPCs are real. Film (and writing), like music before it, is mostly formulaic button pushing now. It disgusts and disturbs me. We need a modern renaissance but it will never come, because such a renaissance would be "extremist" in the eyes of the people who think Black Widow is a great film.
Black pilled again.
@@shemsuhor8763 This is actually a very interesting element that Yoko Taro has challenged in his Nier games.
@@prot07ype87 I never did go through Automata yet. And I've only ever seen a playthrough of the first Nier, though I suppose I could emulate it.
He's specifically targetting the idea of "collateral damage"?
@@shemsuhor8763 imagine caring for what the NPC consider extremist or not. At this point they are nothing more than cattle. Thier free will is but a myth
I'm surprised that Mauler missed the obvious trope. The Red Room is explained by him to have kidnapped tens of thousands of young girls to be brainwashed into mindless killers. If that sounds familiar, it's because Disney used the same concept with The First Order.
Holy fuck I didn’t realize that. Thank you
what is the first order, sounds like something from disney star wars
@@MrTeamGuy it’s the shitty not-empire but totally empire clone from the sequels.
@@zacherywaite7463 but does it have a death star tho, or some emperor
@@MrTeamGuy both if you can believe it. They turned Illum into a super-ultra-mega "NOT THE DEATH STAR" that can destroy multiple planets at once from its own system without being anywhere near them by draining its sun to power its laser. They have Snoke who is knockoff Palpatine who is later revealed to be a funky clone-ish creation of Palpatine. Palpatine, believe it or not, ends up "returning" via unexplained life support on a Sith cultist planet in the final movie
I think now is probably the best time for Disney to give Marvel a break. People are burned out, the movies aren’t making much money, and people are getting more and more critical of the Disney Plus shows. If they took a step back, regrouped, and came back in a year or two with single-hero, insular movies like the first Iron Man, look at what people liked/didn’t like about past movies, and put more time into releasing an individual movie every other year or so instead of exhaustively trying to run all the gas out of the cinematic universe at once, it might be more welcome than property spam.
At least, that’s what a company that didn’t have money to burn and agendas to push would do.
yea they are just trying to milk as much money out of the marvel franchise as they can they dont really care about making good production they just care about money. like look at the difference in plot quality with infinitywar/endgame compared to black widow movie and falcon tv show. its so huge and you can really tell they didn't really put as much effort into the plots.
I always thought they should have gone back to the single movie thing after endgame but instead they killed, sidelined or race and gender swapped everyone and made that almost impossible. I mean, these heroes all had careers after the Infinity War in the comics. Yet here we are. MCU peaked with The Winter Soldier and only went down from there.
They're not going to do that. They have propaganda to push.
@@katherine6326 Push mind control while mind controling.
Star Wars seems to be doing this. Look how successful it’s new shows are doing
I always love watching mauler’s unbridled rages, because I can basically watch the bad movie and understand all the major plot points while also being entertained.
In a way, it'll be better than the movie itself
@@innoillust
Never finished.
Lost me at "falls 7 stories, hitting multiple vents on the way down".
4hrs of Mauler is an unearned blessing in comparison
Yeah, a much better use of my time than watching the movie.
You get three times the runtime for none of the cost and it is fun instead of agonizing. Thumbs up.
As Hollywood has continually dropped the ball for the last decade, I've told my friends "I get more entertainment out of watching youtubers and content creators complaining and critiquing movies, and the inevitable shitshow that ensues after on social media from the cast and crews of said shitshows than the actual movie itself"
His videos are some of the best and most perfect examples and exactly what comes to mind.
The action scenes were planned before the movie even had a script. Said script was then written in 11 days. Phase 4 Marvel has made it very clear. Writing is the *lowest* priority.
is this true lol
@Zmir Moore I can't tell if you're criticizing or praising the film here.
@@peronafanman he's criticizing it imo
And yet they can’t keep the camera wide and steady on the action and they like to take a lot of cuts with choppy editing, like it’s unnecessary the Thorne room fight scene in Loki is possibly the worst fight in the MCU that I think it’s worse than the last Jedi.
The movies are so profitable, by now they realise they can just pull something out of their asses and still make millions. They are just going for quantity, not quality, and it shows.
Your breakdown of the Natasha vs. Loki interrogation was actually beautiful. That was already an amazing scene but the sheer depth of each action was lost on me. You have improved a movie I already know and love, thank you.
It was one of my favorite moments in a great movie. I didn't see the one already in the Playlist, but Mauler's breakdown would've made a fine addition to One Marvelous Scene.
You're telling me they couldn't figure out how to use Taskmaster without making him a "goon?" lmao.. What about.. You know, what he does in the comics--train people. You literally have an entire army of widows to train.
No no no my friend Disney can't have a man telling the women what to do from a position of experience it would upset the girl power narrative! - (Some chicom probably)
Not in the M-She-U Phase Bore. Men are there to be used as comic relief and to be humiliated by the strong, independent women.
remember in the first avenger when our introduction to captain's powers was him running moderately fast for 4 minutes of the film, and then got shot in the arm with a snub nose pistol which severely slowed him down? Then, he was a broadway propaganda poster child for the second act, and when he finally met skull face as a hero, it was like a 15-foot gap between them that he couldn't clear? So they fled the burning factory and limped back to base?
These movies don't fail because of female leads, they fail because they go out of their way to make a human spy trained in infiltration tougher than their superhuman male leads. How much respect would there be if Natasha broke a leg in the first act and had to limp thru the pain using her smarts as a fugitive on the run like in "no country for old men"? or what if she had a Manchurian candidate mode where she killed people indiscriminately? or had a "no Russain. no witnesses" moment, revealing the flaws of a paranoid and desperate hero who breaks under the pressure of being gaslit and suspicious that everyone around her is a spy? Disney can't make those kinds of moves.
Like in Endgame where she fought the alien chick that JUST finished rinsing Vision, like moments before the alien had punched though concrete but Natasha beat her. Like the alien couldnt just stand there and catch her punches that wouldnt of even damaged her, and torn her in half.
@@iamcool544 both her fights in infinity war were 10 seconds each. she sucker-punches the preoccupied aliens that are way tougher than her, dodges a few hits, gets knocked prone, then gets rescued by tech or magic. before the alien warrior can finish the kill. Seems pretty plausible for a rogue of normal human ability.
vision, although more powerful, is not trained and lacks instincts. i could justify vision always getting wrecked like a concrete wall while natasha knows how to roll with a punch.
and i get that the BW movie has to be all about BW. just saying it would be better if they scaled it back and focused on her supreme 4d chess of infiltration and espionage. dial it up from time to time like trinity running from the agents in matrix 1.
daniel craig 007 had some wild stunts that make you suspend disbelief, but there was this arc always progressing of how his careless abandon was leading to injuries and the decline of his own body. that's all i'm saying... if they made a BlackWidow 007 movie where she dealt more directly with the consequences of her actions i think it would be a much better movie than eating rockets and freefalling out of sky cities.
This movie is trying to convince me Black Widow has more of a pain tolerance than the freaking Punisher, a normal man who’s pain tolerance borders on superhuman, I mean he doesn’t take pain killers.
@@LegacyComics100 His rage is his pain killer
There's something that just occurred to me when hearing that embarrassment of an excuse for replacing Tony Masters with a braindead computerized puppet; Taskmaster easily could have been a major, recurring villain while KEEPING the braindead bomb survivor girl, by simply having Tony Masters appear at the end of the film, picking up the discarded neck chip and adding it to suitcase or any other collecting container full of other computer chips, each showing glimpses of every single hero and villain throughout the MCU.
It would have had Tony Masters be the true mastermind who used Drekov rather than Drekov using him, collecting the combat data of literally everyone so far to become the ultimate combat machine that can counter anyone via sending out special data collection+emulation chips to gullible villains who record and gather said data for Tony Masters. Maybe even have him say a line along the lines of "Really, Drekov? After everything i put into bring back your precious Red Room, this is all you could gather for me? Pathetic.", which would explain how Drekov pulled off reviving the Red Room after its first destruction.
This is now my canon, thank you
Honestly having multiple different Taskmasters that eventually combine their skills into the real one would be genius. We'd see lots of different styles and there'd be so much suspense building as we realise the most dangerous one by far will soon enter the stage. I think a great way to introduce him would be perhaps an Avenger manages to break some of his puppets free, and they try to turn on him, using the skill sets they acquired to stand a chance. And he fucking annihilates them.
So like Revolver Ocelot? Wouldn't mind having that again..
The sad thing is we can easily fix their canon because we respect and understand what they're adapting. Like it ain't hard.
I'm personally of the belief you could've easily just kept a Masters Taskmaster (Boy or girl) as a Merc, and it actually work better for the story by also tying them in with a character that only showed up at the start of the movie, and the end.
Ross
Have Blastermaster be a third party working for both the Red Room as an instructor, and trying to collect the bounty on Nat in their downtime. Make it be the Widows that are after the Floomp Juice while Keymaster's initial tussle with Nat have *ACTUAL DIALOG* from Taskfaster mocking Nat, and telling her he has no intention of killing her, not before dragging her carcass to Ross for a ripe payday.
The second encounter is lastmaster pitching in to catch Nat and Blonde Widow since they took down the fresh batch of Widows he was babysitting. *Also remove the APC chase*
With the final encounter behind him trying to take down Both Nat and Yelena because they just cost him one of his contracts. So he was definitely going to make Nat in particular pay, by getting carted off to the Raft, but with the two double teaming with a mix of fighting styles to help throw Flaskbaster off his game, ending with him losing, but retreating before they could kill him, or they chose to let him live to not add more Red in their ledgers.
She's portrayed as if she had the super soldier serum like the comics despite never recieving it in the MCU. She is a normal human yet she can somehow take blows like Captain America at times.
I think "We shat on the shoulders of giants." Is a great quote for the state of the world currently.
Not the whole world though, just the West. The rest of the world is shitting on the people living there nowadays. Good times!
thats literally the plot of green knight
@@glebbokhan9777
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Wdym? Who are the “giants”?
Is it strange that Drakhov, the king of espionage, that hates women, would name the program after a species of spider that the female EATS the male after breeding with them?
that would be like Tony stark naming Ultron, The Stab-me-in-the-back Skynet HAL robot and being like "Nah it'll be fine".
How ironic.
It's like Tony Stark naming his suit the Paper Guy.
Isn’t that the point though, he sends the widows to powerful men across the world and the widows seduce them and can kill them ending up Drakhov influencing politics in those countries . Seems aptly named to me
@@azure89 my point is that Drakhov hating women doesn't make sense. If you hate crocodiles, you wouldn't make crocodiles smarter, more aggressive, heavily armed and perfectly trained, and then keep a few in your office, only to get attacked by a crocodile and go see this is why I hate them.
@@probalicous3258 Him hating women allows him to do those despicable things to women though. He stripped those women of their agency by using drugs to control them and place them under his absolute control. A grim example is slavery back in the day, slave owners hated the slaves and this allowed them to do evil to the slaves because they did not empathise with them at all. Same with Drakhov, do you see where im coming from?
The homeless assassin network in John wick was better than the black widow program
I find "Black Widow" to be particularly ironic for the setting. This was the name given to female chechen warriors fighting during the 1st and 2nd Chechen Wars because they lost their husbands and were fighting for "revenge", putting it simple. They were present during the Nord Ost raid and the Beslan School Crisis, the russians themselves are not very found of the term "Black Widow"
@K Wallace
You make a great point
I fell about 3 feet and landed on my hip, I could barely walk for a few days. Pretty cool how these tough women walk off everything
I think Midnight's edge said he fell off of his bike while standing still and he had to be hospitalized. These movies would be better if they let the stuntmen write them.
If a fall hits just right it will annihilate you entirely
My great-grandmother fell through two floors when she was young. My great-grandfather was building a house and she fell through a weak spot in the floors. It f*cked up her back for the rest of her life. My point is, Natasha would have been f*cked up by that fall. She’s not superhuman like Steve, who barely walked off the fall from the Shield tower and almost died when he fell from the helicarrier in Winter Soldier.
Yelena suffers from the same issues as Finn in TFA. Both are basically highly indoctrinated child soldiers who know nothing but military style drill. Both somehow grew up to be quite the goofballs.
...as someone who loves Yelena you are absolutely right 😫
Difference is, Yelena at least made herself much more useful
@@harrambou9468 Hey! That's cuz Finn was against the Chinese overlords. There's no way the studio would allow him to shine.
This being completely unnatural and unreal outcome for anyone with any experience in real life.
Imagine the storytelling potential if the writers of these shit films actually played into the idea of Finn and Yelena having severe mental trauma and PTSD from their time as cold blooded killers. The writers are so braindead that they try to make them comic relief despite having a good character arc being possible through their tragic backstories.
And yet she also borrows from Rey. Natasha was disrespected in much the same way as luke skywalker in order to push Yelena as the new black widow. Out with the old and in with the new. They've destroyed Natashas legacy and retroactively changed her just to springboard off her.
"You've shat on the shoulders of giants" is such an excellent quote that describes this film so well
I still can't get past a depiction of blue hair in 1995 on a child. It would be nearly 20 years before the trend actually was set. She's such a rebel.
They had to hide the red hair for the 5 min opening so it could be a shock reveal before the opening credits.
Fun fact, I was drinking a Slush Puppy when I saw this movie for the first time. I genuinely thought one had been spilt on her head.
Grunge phase dude, are you this dense on purpose? Jesus Christ this comment section is filled with clueless edgelordsw
I grew up in the 90s. Trust me, any undercover kid is immediately recognizable with that 'do.
@@silverscorpio24 I suppose I grew up on the side of the nineties that didn't get into Spy Kids, though I did really enjoy Planet Terror and From Dusk Till Dawn.
Do note the olfactory nerve gets triggered when breathing through your mouth. You may not recognize the smell through your mouth but pheromones or sorts would still register. This means that no smacking her head on the table would do nothing she is 100% still under his control in that scene. Unless, of course, as you mentioned, she gives herself severe brain trauma trying to severe the nerve.....but then she'd be knocked out on the floor and the movie ends.
“You were the chosen ones, you were supposed to cover up their asses, not show them.” I’m going to pee my pants I’m laughing so hard.
I want the minions of a villain chasing heroes for 5 minutes straight, unloading entire mags into their vehicles, just to corner them while the big bad evil guy shows up and says the line:
"I finally got you exactly where i want you. But seriously, do you have any idea how difficult it is to NOT turn you into swiss cheese?"
Agreed and this would bring an end to *James Bond* , Mission Impossible, Rambo part 69, Bourne…AGAIN(?!), and John Wick….. good result all around. 😊
That sounds like a Venture Bros quote.
Or for the hero revealing that they are bullet proof
Funnily enough, that’s kinda how Vader’s plan works in the New Hope.
Or the bad guy leader saying to his troops, "Ok guys, you are ordered shoot to kill! Until when you can actually get the kill. Then you are ordered to force them to surrender!"
one thing the new MCU media manages to accomplish is that it makes me appreciate what came before even more by seeing how much better it is than what we have now
so...star wars effect all over again
Love your videos, man. Nice to see you here.
@@sebastiansuazo2734 Ironically both properties are own by Disney.
Sadly lots of frachises are becoming this. Really sad to see
The infinity saga at least had a plan. This new saga doesn't. The MCU should gone on hiatus until a long term plan was created.
Another point is how Natasha went unrecognized, not only when she was the most famous, and the most wanted, but she's attractive. People always pay more attention to attractive people, especially attractive women, so the likelihood of being recognized was extremely high.
Now this shouldnt be a problem for her, masks, makeup etc. should allow her to avoid pursuers easily.
But they just dont do that cause brainrot
I remember a scene from Captian America: Winter Soldier, where WS's bullet literally graze next to Black Widow's neck. The absolute TERROR is her eyes from almost dying right there was such a small yet brilliant moment.
Fast forward to 2021, Black Widow apparently got access to vibranium suit and vibranium sunscreen that absorbs 99.9% of damage🤦
When Bucky was firing at her and she was running in the streets, she screamed for people to get out of the way. Here, we have her leveling that prison without a second thought. They gave her the Wonder Woman war chrimhinhal (remove Hs) treatment.
friendly tip, you said a bullet LITERALLY grazes next to her neck? she got shot in the shoulder man. If you want people to take your terrible takes seriously you need to learn how to not be hyperbolic when standing on a soap box
@@TheBritainboy k
@@TheBritainboy isnt the shoulder next to neck, well at least mine is
Let's not pretend that character's bodies being apparently made out of granite in the MCU is something new or that you ever felt that anyone is in any danger at any point. In Civil War, if I remember correctly, she is dropped into an armored car together with a grenade, it blows up - tearing the armored door from its hinges - and she falls out unharmed with just some soot on her face. If a grenade at point blank range in an enclosed space doesn't do that trick, why would you think that anything does?
I’m sorry I still can’t get over the avalanche scene. Our “heroes” basically buried an entire prison under thousands of feet of snow with potentially broken coms and guards locked in with the prisoners. Like Mauler said, they’d be resorting to eating each other just to survive and all they did was the terrible and heinous act of doing their job and serving their prison sentence. That alone made all of them irredeemable
But according to MCU, since the one who did it wasn’t John Walker so everything is absolutely fine.
They even took the time to animate obvious damage and _outright_ _explosions_ happening as a result of the avalanche. You'd think that if they were dumb enough to write our 'heroes' being cool with using an avalanche like this, they would have just had the snow sweep over the compound and acted as if everything is fine aside from a layer of snow stopping them from chasing after the protagonists. It would have been stupid and obviously unrealistic, but at least it wouldn't make it abundantly clear that Natasha fecking Romanov and Sister McSisterface are cool with using mass murder as a means of escape.
Same. Personally, this movie is just a shitty fanfiction in my eyes. I'm not gonna let it poison the memory of this character for me.
The problem is AIR. They will suffocate long before the resulting to cannibalism.
Prison is Underground FFS. All entrances were demolished.
This is literally the problem I have with Luke destroying the death star and then cheering as if he didnt just commit mass murder to save the galaxy
The thing that bothered me most in this film was when in the Helicopter after rescuing Alexei and they casually go on about the fact the Widows are forced into having hysterectomies, robbing them of the ability to have children, they play it out like a Dad not wanting to know about his daughter's female functions, like a period joke or something, but in Age of Ultron Natasha made a big thing of being very traumatised by all of this. It is clearly something that troubled her deeply, but nah its funny how dudes get grossed out by periods and fallopian tubes and cervixes etc Aren't men immature.
It's called character development. Welcome to MCU
@@Nerazmus How is this development when he issues and trauma were never processed or resolved in any manner? It’s never explained in Civil War that’s she’s completely over it now and she never cracked jokes about it even when other people were cracking jokes. Not even in Endgame did she crack jokes about that experience even though plenty of opportunities presented itself. She could have cracked a few jokes with Pepper when she had her daughter like, “Glad I can’t have one of THOSE lmao” that could have hinted to her being over it even after this movie happened.
She isn’t over it.
The writers are just such brainwashed feminist dirtbags that they genuinely think that women should just “Get over” infertility even though it deeply effects them emotionally because wanting to be a mom isn’t feminist enough.
Hell, Age if Ultron got feminist backlash because how dare women be portrayed as wanting children despite the fact that they can’t and infertility isn’t even that bad because she had her career.
Yeah, they did that to appease anti-natal feminists. Not because that was Natasha’s character.
The mcu has to have dumb jokes all the time
Not to mention they hover around in the helicopter for 20 minutes in front of dozens of armed guards. Incredible they werent shot down..
@@kieranschafer5180 Exactly. It's not like we see them deal with that situation or anything like that.
"This phase is not about passing the torch but torching the past.'
Brilliant.
Slack widow gets thrown around like a ragdoll and survives with practically no damage. Flashback to 2012; in the final battle hawkboy runs out of arrows and to escape the chi tauri coming after him he fires a grapple and swings down through a window inside a building and looks like he's about to die from that.
38:38 Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Ok.
@@capthavic "I can do this all day"
@@cleanerben9636 "I know, I know..."
@@JoshuaJacobs83 It's a legitimate criticism
Huh... I just realized that they forgot that SHIELD wasn't called that back then.
Another case of the writers not giving a shit about continuity.
Also I enjoy the "The father" reactions in the video.
In the 1989 flashback in ant man it was called shield. So it's already been retconned. Black Widow has a lot of problems but that's not one of the.
@@ksolesky2 Well I'd argue that both of those are problems, in addition to the one in cap. Marvel, since iron man came first and thus set the standard (plus being an infinitely better movie).
But I guess there is a point in only counting the first instance of the retcon, and judging the others as following that new standard.
@@ksolesky2 It wasn't a retcon, the name thing in IM1 was just Coulson being obtuse about it, and so it wouldn't be obvious to the viewer what organization he was from exactly until he said it at the end of the movie.
2:10:57 he adressed it there
@@BartasRapowanie No, he messed it up there, because it's a misunderstanding Mauler has had for years now (because I remember him saying it in some of his early videos). SHIELD was always called SHIELD, Coulson was giving the full name so the audience wouldn't recognize the organization immediately. Somehow Mauler and many other people took Coulson's joke about "working on the name" literally.
I’ve just realized that Natasha survived more landed attacks than Cap in any one of his movies. Her thing is combat should be evasion, not tanking. It’s the general way to not kill not-superhuman not-armored heroes in genre. And if they hit her that frequently, they must show how that fucked her up. Worked wonders in first Die Hard movies.
@digifalc0087" they don't make them like they used to"
BUT LITERALLY
XD
The "tanking" for Natasha would actually be more believable if she had the same mutated serum as Captain America.
I wonder how this film would have turned out if it just simply explored Nat and Clint's adventures in Budapest, would have given much needed development to Hawkeye and done a great justice to Natasha and Scar Jo.
that is the movie we all wanted
About mind control breaking and the aftereffects. I remember reading a book with a villain that had a charming magic power to mind control people. When the good guys finally found a way to break the charm and did it en masse, there was a massive wave of suicide because people remembered what they did when they were charmed. Betraying, killing, selling out their loved ones; selling out the good guys despite being with them from the beginning; killing innocent people and actually loving the bad guy etc. etc. Even the least charmed person had several days of depression for thinking how the bad guy wasnt actually bad because that thought went against their core tenets. Where did all those widows get their moral compasses, core tenets etc to understand what they experienced is bad ?
It another great example where "removing the mind control isnt an all good thing" is in Age of Steel from Doctor Who. In it, they defeat the Cybermen by disabling the emotional inhibitors within the suits. However, it allows the innocent people who were forcefully converted to see what they had been transformed into, combined with then reliving the traumatic process, having their free will stripped away and perhaps even doing it to their loved ones/innocents. As a result, all but one shut down and die from the reveal with the only person not succumbing being the Cyber Controller/Lumic who engineered the whole process
what book is it ?
@@hk1371 reminds me of that cyborg from invincible, who killed himself when he saw what he had become against his will
See this is the issue I take with Disney's idea of the Red Room. (and all the mind control ideas they came up with themselves instead of just using what was provided in the comics) They made it a marvel of science and magic that they were able to "brainwash" all these girls. Which means that all you need is a magic/science "cure" to fix it. But in the comics AND in reality, if you raise a person from their BIRTH to believe that killing people is not wrong, they are not being "brainwashed" they are simply being taught what to believe before their brains are formed. The black widows are sympathetic because they are humans who didn't have a chance to learn to be good. But they can't just be fixed without massive amounts of work. (In fact there is a moral argument to be made about letting them die to put them out of their misery because they cannot be cured magically)
This is likely why black widows in the comics aren't saved, because Natasha isnt capable of reaching them like Clint was with her. Natasha and Clints relationship is meant to be one in a million because he was able to convince her that it was worth it to be good, and that she could be, despite everything she knew to be opposite. It was things she KNEW and did based on a morality that was taught to her. Not things she was controlled to do, yes she was abused, but her actual will was never taken from her. To beat the Red Room you have to reprogram yourself through introspection. You can't just be gassed into being a good person when you NEVER were to begin with. Thats the cool part of Natasha's back story. She was never innocent, and couldn't be good until she CHOSE to be. Despite how much more painful her life would be when she chose to take responsibility for stuff she did. She went from a guiltless life filled with other kinds of pain, to a life where she excepted guilt and got rewarded with real friendships that she didn't even expect to earn after what she did. She BECAME a good person and got rewarded.
They decided though, that the red room and Hydra have the same methods of control, which don't make sense for the control they were trying to have. Red Room had traditional psychological control. Hydra while creating the Winter Soldier was trying to create a super soldier NOW so they didn't have time to raise him from birth they had to take a capable adult and ACTUALLY brainwash all his will away from him because he was already a a good person. But even with their technology he was able to break through it several times, becuase they want to tell the story in a way that you believe that Goodness cannot be taken from you! So, they had to put him in the freezer until needed. The whole point of the freezer is that total mind control of an already independent mind DOESNT WORK. It's meant to be INSPIRING. That evil has to work very hard to subdue good.
The new black widow tech destroys Bucky's history, as well as Natasha's history in the blink of an eye. It destroys the themes and morals of the original comic books hey came from. They had to face realistic villains with realistic techniques to manipulate humans into doing bad things. Their paths were different but ended up in similar places having to face their issues properly over time through the comics. The movies don't want to be patient and earn that sort of thing with Ylena, so it has to be sci-fi magic.
Tl;dr they want certain events to happen quickly with no time and effort on the characters so they just make up new rules, we don't get to see the characters go through anything or have permanent growth, and we can't be allowed to belive that Good has an innate upper hand against evil because good people can't be broken forever- and everything gets worse and worse because ✨️ sci-fi magic ✨️. Instead of just understanding how humans actually work in the real word and applying that to some additional sci-fi stuff. No. The sci-fi is the entire point now. Humans dont matter.
Book name?
"This isn't a passing of the torch. It is a torching of the past."
MauLer out here with the fuckin bars bro
My father grew up in rural turkey, back in the 50s. When he was young, he was cutting lumber with his father and a tree trunk rolled down from a hill atop of him, literally hitting him in the face while bouncing over him. He was knocked out for good, but he obviously survived the accident. His sense of smell didn't. He never smelled anything anymore from that day onward. THAT'S the kind of force needed to sever your olfactory senses in the brain.
The picture of a log punting a kids face is fucking wonderfull.
@@dodojesus4529 The picture of my father, specifically, getting hit by a log in the face is already wonderful to me.
Natasha has some serious head game!
XD
*puts her head through the fucking table*
@lithuaniaball Drakohv: If she didn’t die… I AM DEAD
XD
The rage Mauler had when Task Manager pulled out a gun was hilarious
That little "fuck you" had me rolling.
MCU Then: “Let’s spend over a decade making good films and buckets loads of money.
MCU Now: “Now let’s spend the next decade making rubbish and let’s see much money we can lose.
@blue with enough fuck ups, anything can fall from its monetary grace. Just look at game of thrones or even the reputation of the sequel trilogy
Random Fans: So you have chosen death by bankruptcy
They'll make much more money. your cousins. siblings. friends. coworkers. Will all eat up mindless blockbuster slop because its made for them. Its consumerism for consumers.
Only good films they've ever made were Iron Man, Thor, Civil War and Guardians.
That was more like MCU 2015. MCU now is more like “blbaldhlabalakbanabbsnsla.”
When MauLer's rant about a movie is longer than the movie... Perfection.
And we don't even have to pay for it.
It's like watching the movie for free!
That just means that he's bad at summarizing his points if anything.
@@Shazam1998 well he isn't summarizing them, he's going into detail with them, which helps with understanding why something may be flawed.
@@TheB00tyWarrior The amount of hard work that Mauler puts into this is astounding. WE LOVE YOU MAULER. NOTICE ME PLZ!
Imagine if Frodo and Sam are crawling their way through Mordor and they get spotted by some orcs who snarl and draw their swords charging them, and the only hope they have to escape is to kill them. Sam draws his sword to do this but Frodo shakes his head and is like "No Sam, put that away. We came here to throw the ring into Mt Doom, not stab orcs."
No wonder Gimli wanted him dead.
Even though they've done it before where's the logic in that??
@@Rinesmyth Imagine if Frodo and Sam get up and start walking towards Mt Doom in the distance, but then Frodo is like "Wait wait wait. Stop. Put your pack down Sam and stay where you are. We are here to throw the ring into Mt Doom, not go on a fucking hiking trip."
The most unbelievable part of black widow is how ALL the data on mind control is stored on a floppy disk. They could only hold a maximum of 2MB.
The people who made the movie think a floppy disk is huge because their own brains can only hold a fraction of 2MB.
A Flash Drive would've been more believable.
Worst part is that floppy disks are outdated and nobody would use them in 2016
@@daniquemaxwell5070 U.S Goverment was using floppys for Nuclear launch codes as late as 2019.
@@DisplayThisOkay That's really questionable and laughable ngl