It took me a bit to remember "Heroes in Crisis", but I'm pretty sure I'll just remember it as the time Tom King decided to character assassinate Wally West.
I've been saying this exact thing now since the 90s. I've already forgotten comics that I read just a few months ago. But there are story arcs from the 60s, 70s and 80s that are still fairly fresh in my head. Even the much maligned 90s had a few MEMORABLE story arcs: The INFINITY GAUNTLET, the EXTINCTION AGENDA (or was that late 80s?) Batman's KNIGHTFALL arc, DEATH OF SUPERMAN arc, that PROCTOR/THE GATHERERS arc from The Avengers. Most of what we get NOW in comics are remixed & recycled retreads of old stories, or just disposable stories that are trite and have no emotional or world-changing impact. Characters that once had serious and dimensional personalities are now often just walking sacks of one-liners and quips. Part of the reason for this is that status quos never change. Spider-Man is still fighting the same 'GANG WARS' that he was fighting 30yrs ago. The X-MEN are still feared and hated by a world they've been protecting for decades. Wolverine and Sabretooth are still at each others' throats. The JOKER, clearly a demented mass murderer, is still on the loose. So-called comic book EVENTS never have any lasting effects. When certain elements don't change in decades, it's hard to get all worked up and excited over more and more of the same.
DC and marvel main universe need to operate like the ultimate universe as far as how time progresses so we can age these characters out and move new characters in so we can tell new stories it sucks when side characters or next gen characters get the progression they need to take up the mantle and tell different stories with different characters
Astro city Next wave Planetary Flex Mentallo Preacher Garth Ennis Punisher Ultimate spiderman. Bendises run on daredevil. All memorable all came out in the 90s+
But you only read niche of a niche superhero comics, with the backing of an entire nation, that barely pays attention to anything else but this thin draft metaphor of exceptionalism. With great power, et cetera. YOU have to be the hero, and wear uniforms and code names like Iceman. Obviously 340 million people in a shared bubble will remember SOME pivotal events, when the audience is spread SO thick. I bet even DDR remembered every little thing they got, they even remember Poly-Play gaming system, while YOU in the grander world only remember it as rumors of Polybius that "brainwashes people". That's the "free market" of history for you. Well, now the grander world doesn't rebrand 7 Samurai as The Magnificent Seven, now they actually watch the originals.
I recently started going on walks again (with no earbuds) and was shocked at how many ideas I would have for stories I've been working on. Something about mild physical activity and moving through the world at a human pace with nothing else to compete for your attention just works. If you're stuck creatively, I recommend it
Tom King killing Guy Gardner lives rent free in my mind and I'm not even a Green Lantern fan, let alone a Guy Gardner one. So I'd say yes, yes they will be remembered. Unfortunate yes.
I haven’t read that story, but what I saw of it was bad/disgusting. Kind of strange how DC comics totally ignores it, but I guess consistent canon went the was of the dodo anyway.
Once a year I have a retreat of silence. I go out somewhere and close myself off from the world for about 8 hours. No cell phone, no technology, just a notebook, a pen and my Bible to reset myself. You’ll be surprised at how hard it is the first few hours to focus. Your mind wanders, you are overcome with temptation to check your phone or listen to music or just “look” up something. But at the end I usually feel refreshed and have a new perspective on life. I recommend it to everyone, you don’t have to be religious to do this.
What comics will we remember? A few. How many songs can you name from the 70s and 80s? Hundreds maybe a thousand. 90s, 2000s, 2010s. Maybe 10 each decade. Similar with comics.
If I’m being honest, no. It feels like most of these comics are being made just to sit in a drawer until Kevin Feige / James Gunn needs to pull them out to try and save the MCU/DCU
Most comics, period, are not broadly remembered after 20 years. I'm reading 1980s Spidey epics right now. Memorable period, but most individual issues aren't standouts that will be remembered forever, like "The Assassin-Nation Plot." Hell, I wonder how many people who read Spidey post-2000 know about the Captain Universe period. But yeah, I can't think of many issues, stories, or runs from today that will be read and reread and reread from 2016 onward.
Captain Universe was part of the Days of Vengeance event, hence I expect quite a few people to remember that one. But yes, individual issues rarely get remembered and our memory will stick to stories/arcs vs individual plot points anyway.
@@davidgantenbein9362 "Acts of Vengeance." It was, but it wasn't. The primary AoV story ran through the Avengers books. The Spidey stories were essentially a parallel story that relied on AoV but never connected with the Avengers titles. The only issue of significance is that the first Spectacular Spidey issue showed how Kingpin joined the prime movers. Cosmic Spidey did show up in one issue of Quasar, but that was it.
@@adamfrey4920 Yes, it wasn’t part of the uncovering phase, but the Captain Universe powers activated during the „fight unknown villains“ phase of „Acts of Vengeance“ that span the whole Marvel universe. So I do associate it with the event, albeit it’s possible to consider that just the crossover element and not the actual core event. The Captain Universe story also ends, when Loki creates the Tri-Sentinel as some farewell present after he is defeated, which always makes me remember that one as the epilogue of Acts of Vengeance. Item, in my brain it’s chain linked with Acts of Vengeance … chains of adamantium ;)
Some comics will be remembered for the wrong reasons. Like Joe Quesada’s NYX, or Captain America being a Hydra agent, or One More Day, or Sins Past. And while some of these have been retconned, they have left a bitter taste that still lingers.
I still think about Gabby Rivera's America Chavez run*. Mostly because it was hilariously absurd, and there were some moments in that book that I don't think I'll ever forget. *Full disclosure, I never read the actual books, so I'm basing my opinion on the in-depth reviews I watched on UA-cam and the panels I read there.
Comics made by Kirby, Conan, Steranco et al will be remembered for a hundred years. Comics made by artists that don’t love comics or don’t have the skills won’t be remembered next month. You never forget greatness.
Distraction might be a factor but nor the biggest one. I'm not sure there is a single factor. It's a lot of little things that add up. I think one aspect is that we mostly remember novel experiences. You never forget your first kiss but probably don't put much thought into the 100th. In terms of comics (or video games and movies for that matter) it is extremely difficult to create a novel experience. It's not impossible, some rare individuals have pulled it off, but still difficult. As adults, novel experiences themselves are rare. We've read a ton of stories, watched a lot of movies, and played a lot of games. The only way to really have a novel experience would be to consume something that is counter to our own preferences. To wit, horror movies have become fairly routine because I've been watching them for almost 40 years. There's only so many situations you can create in that genre. Generally, a group of people being picked off one by one until either everyone is deadbor the Final Girl beats the killer maybe. So, to experience something new, I could watch historical romances. It would be novel but I don't enjoy those. It's a long way of saying that, after a certain age, there's nothing new under the sun and life rarely surprises you in a good way.
It's a bit cliche at this point to mention this, but I think plenty of kids (young and old alike) are talking about manga and anime books they loved. I'm still not sure why comic stories can't become as equally beloved. I know you were just using horror and historical romances as brief examples, but I still chuckled imagining if those were our only two genre options. What's funny is I fell mostly out of love with horror movies about 12 years ago. About a month ago I listened to Pride and Prejudice and loved it. I read Little Women about five years ago, and it's now one of my favorite books. I think you should consider giving some historical romances a try. You might be surprised as I was to find something you like.
From what I heard of brain biology, it’s actually emotions. Our brain saves information always with emotions, not as pure facts. Our memory is hence very emotional driven. So it’s probably less the new aspect of it all, but way more the strength of the emotions we had. Obviously our emotions will be strongest, when we encounter new stuff, but hitting the right tones could also work. … at least that’s my theory here.
@@Off-Brand_Devin I do,talk sometimes about new comics I read, but all my nerd/geek friends are not into American superhero comics, so I have to keep it brief. But among nerds/geeks, I think it absolutely works, when I talk about something I liked and my friend talks about a manag he just happened to enjoy. We don’t need to have read the same things to have a discussion about what exactly we liked. But yeah, I try to keep it short enough to not make them regret listening as none of them is into superhero comics like I am.
You fr real think nobody will remember that US dollars leveled Gaza and at the same time published Krakoa era, where smarmy kids think that sort of thing is kinda cool actually, and that they should invent names for their special moves when they do it? ....hokay.
Is it allowed to lead historical Romans' stories about Syria Palaestina? Romance of the OTHER Three Kingdoms, anyone? I'm not kidding, it is ACTUALLY on the verge of being prosecutable in the US court of law.
Sadly I agree. It’s just a matter of time before the Big 2 start doing this. I can see a lot of writers who want to tell their stories also attempt this. Getting good art made is expensive for the average person. However I do see there still being hand drawn original properties from artists. Myself included. Unfortunately this might completely flood the market… 😅
The last memorable run for me was house and powers. I was genuinely excited and flew thru the pages. Before that, ill always remember civil war, court of owls, war of light, annihilation, war of kings, dark reign, house of m, and metal.
I have 2 thoughts on the subject: First, is that I, and people in my age group, aren't going to remember many mondern stories as fondly, because we're old. Many of the examples of "great" stories that come up on this channel are from the 70's - early 90's, they're the defining stories we read as kids, and they're what we compare everything to. Younger comic readers are going to compare everyting to what they read as kids - Dark Knights Metal, Infinite Crisis, King in Black. At some future point, and X-men fan, is going to be thining "Man, this Death of the Rebirth of the Fall of Dark Pheonix Galla" just doesn't hit the same. Remember Krakoa?" Also, speaking for myself, there are too many @#$#ing events. We have a status quo redefineing Event ever 3 months. It's exhausting. I can't keep up, and I'm utterttly our of %$#@ to give. Of course they don't hit these same as Crisis on Infinite Earth's or the original Secret Wars. They don't give anything time to sink in. As much as I disliked the Krakoa era, I'll allow that it, at least, set a status quo for the X-Men that was given a few years to cook.
Which comics enthralled the 12 year old reader? Which comics got kids talking in the playground? The problem is kids aren't the main audience for comics anymore. So there is nothing to grab them and make them remember it for 20 years.
AI has taken over lettering. It is taking over coloring. It will take over art. It will try to take over writing, but that will be last. Even many parts of editorial are already gone, some taken by technology, some just abandoned.
Its a cop out used since the fricken 80s. I remember reading a forum on ComicVine people have the exact same conversation. This was in 2013. If there can be really popular games movies and tv shows. There can be popular comics. There can be a slew of them. Those same "distractions" befall the people who make fallout. Xmen 97 . everything everywhere all at once baldurs gate and Elden ring.
I’m conflicted, but mostly against AI. I think I would have to acknowledge it could be valuable in some time saving abilities. I do my own comics and I have to admit that it’s easier for me to model a ship in blender and then rotate and reuse that model as background for multiple panels than to redraw the ship over and over again using perspective principles. That’s not exactly AI but it’s a technological advance that saves me time that I’m willing to do. On the other hand if Jack Kirby had blender, we might never have gotten his idiosyncratic building construction style or his beehive look to cityscapes. I just don’t want a computer, writing my stories or drawing things from my concepts that I just type out. If I were a writer only and not an artist perhaps I would feel differently.
Based on title alone. Yes. I remember quite a bit of the good and the garbage I read 20 years ago. If I'm still alive I'll remember a lot of what I read now. I spend most of my time reading comics. Everyone experiences things differently though.
What's slapping Thinking Criticalytes? You know what I'm a DC reader. As many of you know by now. As such with Batman being the biggest Elephant in the room. I gotta say in spite of all the negativity put against Chip Zydarsky current epic run on the caped crusader ; I gotta say I think Chip and Jorge Jimenez are delivering a classic Batman epic. I think Bill Finger and Bob Kane themselves would be very proud of Chip and Jorge.
anybody who writes anything with the goal of being 'remembered' is an idiot. No one can predict that and no one can write to ensure that goal. it's nonsense. Jack and Stan were churning out periodicals that were meant to be read, enjoyed and tossed away. Stan changed his name so as not to do damage to his career as a 'real' writer. the speculators and money-oriented collectors do not define this or any hobby and their motivations for being in it have nothing at all to do with why people make art. ridiculous.
6:48 Greg Land has the ability to trace just not the ability to hide it. Didn’t you made a video about the 2nd artist of Stephanie Phillips’ Harley Quinn trace and reuse the same artwork instead drawing new ones? The artist is name is Simone, yes? 8:14 I doubt that, with the whole recent controversy with Sweet baby Inc. Also not lot play Pokémon GO these days 8:47 The comic Aficionados did talked about Indies comic compare to indie video games. About how their marketing is much different. The Thing is, they do not know about video games like Cuphead and Cult of Lamb are getting Comic book adaptations. Dark horse publishers Cyberpunk 2077 comics too. So these comics that based on popular video still won’t get attraction to local comic book stores? I mean The Cyberpunk anime was so popular it saved the video game itself, with a few updates to fix the bugs(I wish someone fix my bugs as well.) So if Cyberpunk 2077 popular is it remember fondly over the years including the comics as well? The comics are mostly standalone story arc that you start on any, you do not. need to start on issue 1 like DC and Marvel. I know Cullen Bunn is one the writers of Cyberpunk 2077 comic.
Hot Take: AI art is good for comics because artists have and always will be overworked and severely underpaid. The position isn't sustainable in this industry and I think using AI and then hiring someone to touch it up will be better for everyone involved as long as the pay does not go down from what it currently is.
That’s a big IF. What we learned from Perch is that DC and Marvel will find the lowest page rate possible, even if the artist may die of starvation. But it will mean that making comics could become more affordable for indies, who knows how that will transform the industry?
I agree with the person who wrote in as poor writing and artistic talent is due to the lack of time alone to develop your skillset, your imagination in favor of regurgitating something they saw somewhere else. Distraction and mindless consumption are detrimental to creativity and places society in real jeopardy of collapse. Instant mindless and disposable creation via A.I. will only speed us to a perlilous end. Can you imagine being alerted to a new A.I. created/assisted song, news report, film, animated short, streaming series, novel, comic book every 10 min. via your smart device? Entertainment or entrainment? What a nightmare world of anxiety-ridden, ambitionless, unimaginative weaklings might humanity become. Why do anything when A.I. can do it for you? HARD PASS.
Moving forward i want to see video evidence of the art being produced by hand, the old way. I'll opem my wallet and sponsor that, I'll be damned before i purchase anything A.i based.... Cheap shit
It’s because the democratization of the arts has led to a decline in the quality of arts across the board. When the high standards of past creative fiction returns, so will the quality of art return. That’s why channels like this are so necessary, as much as the writers of this drivel try to malign them. Calling out the bad art, will at least allow a consensus of what is bad, writers can do the opposite of that and then at least create what is good. And then looking at what is both bad and good, artists will make art that is great.
It took me a bit to remember "Heroes in Crisis", but I'm pretty sure I'll just remember it as the time Tom King decided to character assassinate Wally West.
Preach. That one is best forgotten
I've been saying this exact thing now since the 90s. I've already forgotten comics that I read just a few months ago. But there are story arcs from the 60s, 70s and 80s that are still fairly fresh in my head. Even the much maligned 90s had a few MEMORABLE story arcs: The INFINITY GAUNTLET, the EXTINCTION AGENDA (or was that late 80s?) Batman's KNIGHTFALL arc, DEATH OF SUPERMAN arc, that PROCTOR/THE GATHERERS arc from The Avengers. Most of what we get NOW in comics are remixed & recycled retreads of old stories, or just disposable stories that are trite and have no emotional or world-changing impact. Characters that once had serious and dimensional personalities are now often just walking sacks of one-liners and quips. Part of the reason for this is that status quos never change. Spider-Man is still fighting the same 'GANG WARS' that he was fighting 30yrs ago. The X-MEN are still feared and hated by a world they've been protecting for decades. Wolverine and Sabretooth are still at each others' throats. The JOKER, clearly a demented mass murderer, is still on the loose. So-called comic book EVENTS never have any lasting effects. When certain elements don't change in decades, it's hard to get all worked up and excited over more and more of the same.
DC and marvel main universe need to operate like the ultimate universe as far as how time progresses so we can age these characters out and move new characters in so we can tell new stories it sucks when side characters or next gen characters get the progression they need to take up the mantle and tell different stories with different characters
Astro city Next wave Planetary Flex Mentallo Preacher Garth Ennis Punisher Ultimate spiderman. Bendises run on daredevil.
All memorable all came out in the 90s+
But you only read niche of a niche superhero comics, with the backing of an entire nation, that barely pays attention to anything else but this thin draft metaphor of exceptionalism. With great power, et cetera. YOU have to be the hero, and wear uniforms and code names like Iceman.
Obviously 340 million people in a shared bubble will remember SOME pivotal events, when the audience is spread SO thick. I bet even DDR remembered every little thing they got, they even remember Poly-Play gaming system, while YOU in the grander world only remember it as rumors of Polybius that "brainwashes people".
That's the "free market" of history for you. Well, now the grander world doesn't rebrand 7 Samurai as The Magnificent Seven, now they actually watch the originals.
@@PaballoKobe-xh9ve - spot-on w/ Astro City and Planetary!
@@revolutionarydragon1123 - Totally agree! DC is trying to do a little of that now...
I recently started going on walks again (with no earbuds) and was shocked at how many ideas I would have for stories I've been working on. Something about mild physical activity and moving through the world at a human pace with nothing else to compete for your attention just works. If you're stuck creatively, I recommend it
Tom King killing Guy Gardner lives rent free in my mind and I'm not even a Green Lantern fan, let alone a Guy Gardner one. So I'd say yes, yes they will be remembered. Unfortunate yes.
I haven’t read that story, but what I saw of it was bad/disgusting. Kind of strange how DC comics totally ignores it, but I guess consistent canon went the was of the dodo anyway.
Once a year I have a retreat of silence. I go out somewhere and close myself off from the world for about 8 hours. No cell phone, no technology, just a notebook, a pen and my Bible to reset myself.
You’ll be surprised at how hard it is the first few hours to focus. Your mind wanders, you are overcome with temptation to check your phone or listen to music or just “look” up something. But at the end I usually feel refreshed and have a new perspective on life. I recommend it to everyone, you don’t have to be religious to do this.
You should do that once a week
What comics will we remember? A few.
How many songs can you name from the 70s and 80s? Hundreds maybe a thousand. 90s, 2000s, 2010s. Maybe 10 each decade.
Similar with comics.
If I’m being honest, no. It feels like most of these comics are being made just to sit in a drawer until Kevin Feige / James Gunn needs to pull them out to try and save the MCU/DCU
Most comics, period, are not broadly remembered after 20 years. I'm reading 1980s Spidey epics right now. Memorable period, but most individual issues aren't standouts that will be remembered forever, like "The Assassin-Nation Plot." Hell, I wonder how many people who read Spidey post-2000 know about the Captain Universe period.
But yeah, I can't think of many issues, stories, or runs from today that will be read and reread and reread from 2016 onward.
Captain Universe was part of the Days of Vengeance event, hence I expect quite a few people to remember that one. But yes, individual issues rarely get remembered and our memory will stick to stories/arcs vs individual plot points anyway.
@@davidgantenbein9362 "Acts of Vengeance."
It was, but it wasn't. The primary AoV story ran through the Avengers books. The Spidey stories were essentially a parallel story that relied on AoV but never connected with the Avengers titles. The only issue of significance is that the first Spectacular Spidey issue showed how Kingpin joined the prime movers.
Cosmic Spidey did show up in one issue of Quasar, but that was it.
@@adamfrey4920 Yes, it wasn’t part of the uncovering phase, but the Captain Universe powers activated during the „fight unknown villains“ phase of „Acts of Vengeance“ that span the whole Marvel universe. So I do associate it with the event, albeit it’s possible to consider that just the crossover element and not the actual core event. The Captain Universe story also ends, when Loki creates the Tri-Sentinel as some farewell present after he is defeated, which always makes me remember that one as the epilogue of Acts of Vengeance. Item, in my brain it’s chain linked with Acts of Vengeance … chains of adamantium ;)
Some comics will be remembered for the wrong reasons. Like Joe Quesada’s NYX, or Captain America being a Hydra agent, or One More Day, or Sins Past. And while some of these have been retconned, they have left a bitter taste that still lingers.
If AI really takes a hold on comics then I'll just settle for reading poetry.
I still think about Gabby Rivera's America Chavez run*. Mostly because it was hilariously absurd, and there were some moments in that book that I don't think I'll ever forget.
*Full disclosure, I never read the actual books, so I'm basing my opinion on the in-depth reviews I watched on UA-cam and the panels I read there.
I still don’t want AI, to me it could make art skills irrelevant
Comics made by Kirby, Conan, Steranco et al will be remembered for a hundred years.
Comics made by artists that don’t love comics or don’t have the skills won’t be remembered next month.
You never forget greatness.
Beast World will *never* be forgotten. The furries will never end in complaint that it wasn’t fleshed out enough.
I wonder if Krakoa Era will be remembered in 20 years like the Era that ruined the X-Men forever.
Distraction might be a factor but nor the biggest one. I'm not sure there is a single factor. It's a lot of little things that add up.
I think one aspect is that we mostly remember novel experiences. You never forget your first kiss but probably don't put much thought into the 100th.
In terms of comics (or video games and movies for that matter) it is extremely difficult to create a novel experience. It's not impossible, some rare individuals have pulled it off, but still difficult.
As adults, novel experiences themselves are rare. We've read a ton of stories, watched a lot of movies, and played a lot of games. The only way to really have a novel experience would be to consume something that is counter to our own preferences. To wit, horror movies have become fairly routine because I've been watching them for almost 40 years. There's only so many situations you can create in that genre. Generally, a group of people being picked off one by one until either everyone is deadbor the Final Girl beats the killer maybe. So, to experience something new, I could watch historical romances. It would be novel but I don't enjoy those.
It's a long way of saying that, after a certain age, there's nothing new under the sun and life rarely surprises you in a good way.
It's a bit cliche at this point to mention this, but I think plenty of kids (young and old alike) are talking about manga and anime books they loved. I'm still not sure why comic stories can't become as equally beloved.
I know you were just using horror and historical romances as brief examples, but I still chuckled imagining if those were our only two genre options.
What's funny is I fell mostly out of love with horror movies about 12 years ago. About a month ago I listened to Pride and Prejudice and loved it. I read Little Women about five years ago, and it's now one of my favorite books. I think you should consider giving some historical romances a try. You might be surprised as I was to find something you like.
From what I heard of brain biology, it’s actually emotions. Our brain saves information always with emotions, not as pure facts. Our memory is hence very emotional driven. So it’s probably less the new aspect of it all, but way more the strength of the emotions we had. Obviously our emotions will be strongest, when we encounter new stuff, but hitting the right tones could also work. … at least that’s my theory here.
@@Off-Brand_Devin I do,talk sometimes about new comics I read, but all my nerd/geek friends are not into American superhero comics, so I have to keep it brief. But among nerds/geeks, I think it absolutely works, when I talk about something I liked and my friend talks about a manag he just happened to enjoy. We don’t need to have read the same things to have a discussion about what exactly we liked. But yeah, I try to keep it short enough to not make them regret listening as none of them is into superhero comics like I am.
You fr real think nobody will remember that US dollars leveled Gaza and at the same time published Krakoa era, where smarmy kids think that sort of thing is kinda cool actually, and that they should invent names for their special moves when they do it?
....hokay.
Is it allowed to lead historical Romans' stories about Syria Palaestina? Romance of the OTHER Three Kingdoms, anyone?
I'm not kidding, it is ACTUALLY on the verge of being prosecutable in the US court of law.
Sadly I agree. It’s just a matter of time before the Big 2 start doing this. I can see a lot of writers who want to tell their stories also attempt this. Getting good art made is expensive for the average person. However I do see there still being hand drawn original properties from artists. Myself included. Unfortunately this might completely flood the market… 😅
The last memorable run for me was house and powers. I was genuinely excited and flew thru the pages.
Before that, ill always remember civil war, court of owls, war of light, annihilation, war of kings, dark reign, house of m, and metal.
I have 2 thoughts on the subject: First, is that I, and people in my age group, aren't going to remember many mondern stories as fondly, because we're old. Many of the examples of "great" stories that come up on this channel are from the 70's - early 90's, they're the defining stories we read as kids, and they're what we compare everything to. Younger comic readers are going to compare everyting to what they read as kids - Dark Knights Metal, Infinite Crisis, King in Black. At some future point, and X-men fan, is going to be thining "Man, this Death of the Rebirth of the Fall of Dark Pheonix Galla" just doesn't hit the same. Remember Krakoa?"
Also, speaking for myself, there are too many @#$#ing events. We have a status quo redefineing Event ever 3 months. It's exhausting. I can't keep up, and I'm utterttly our of %$#@ to give. Of course they don't hit these same as Crisis on Infinite Earth's or the original Secret Wars. They don't give anything time to sink in. As much as I disliked the Krakoa era, I'll allow that it, at least, set a status quo for the X-Men that was given a few years to cook.
Which comics enthralled the 12 year old reader?
Which comics got kids talking in the playground?
The problem is kids aren't the main audience for comics anymore. So there is nothing to grab them and make them remember it for 20 years.
Perch said "what they Doodoo" 8:55
AI has taken over lettering. It is taking over coloring. It will take over art. It will try to take over writing, but that will be last. Even many parts of editorial are already gone, some taken by technology, some just abandoned.
The "everything is poop" before the "greatest time to be alive'
Occurs to me that Perch is talking about churned out commercial product and yet he didn't include a single K-Pop clip.
Ironic.
Its a cop out used since the fricken 80s. I remember reading a forum on ComicVine people have the exact same conversation. This was in 2013.
If there can be really popular games movies and tv shows. There can be popular comics. There can be a slew of them.
Those same "distractions" befall the people who make fallout. Xmen 97 . everything everywhere all at once baldurs gate and Elden ring.
I’m conflicted, but mostly against AI. I think I would have to acknowledge it could be valuable in some time saving abilities. I do my own comics and I have to admit that it’s easier for me to model a ship in blender and then rotate and reuse that model as background for multiple panels than to redraw the ship over and over again using perspective principles. That’s not exactly AI but it’s a technological advance that saves me time that I’m willing to do. On the other hand if Jack Kirby had blender, we might never have gotten his idiosyncratic building construction style or his beehive look to cityscapes. I just don’t want a computer, writing my stories or drawing things from my concepts that I just type out. If I were a writer only and not an artist perhaps I would feel differently.
Based on title alone. Yes. I remember quite a bit of the good and the garbage I read 20 years ago. If I'm still alive I'll remember a lot of what I read now. I spend most of my time reading comics.
Everyone experiences things differently though.
Some of the digital artists are just as bad as AI… how many times can we let Clayton Crain charge $40 for a cover he just repainted digitally.
I think some of these newer comics will be remembered but for all the wrong reasons
What's slapping Thinking Criticalytes?
You know what I'm a DC reader. As many of you know by now. As such with Batman being the biggest Elephant in the room. I gotta say in spite of all the negativity put against Chip Zydarsky current epic run on the caped crusader ; I gotta say I think Chip and Jorge Jimenez are delivering a classic Batman epic. I think Bill Finger and Bob Kane themselves would be very proud of Chip and Jorge.
Let's see spider man The Gauntlet and Grim Hunt I remember
Planet hulk will remember
anybody who writes anything with the goal of being 'remembered' is an idiot. No one can predict that and no one can write to ensure that goal. it's nonsense. Jack and Stan were churning out periodicals that were meant to be read, enjoyed and tossed away. Stan changed his name so as not to do damage to his career as a 'real' writer. the speculators and money-oriented collectors do not define this or any hobby and their motivations for being in it have nothing at all to do with why people make art. ridiculous.
6:48 Greg Land has the ability to trace just not the ability to hide it.
Didn’t you made a video about the 2nd artist of Stephanie Phillips’ Harley Quinn trace and reuse the same artwork instead drawing new ones? The artist is name is Simone, yes?
8:14 I doubt that, with the whole recent controversy with Sweet baby Inc. Also not lot play Pokémon GO these days
8:47 The comic Aficionados did talked about Indies comic compare to indie video games. About how their marketing is much different.
The Thing is, they do not know about video games like Cuphead and Cult of Lamb are getting Comic book adaptations. Dark horse publishers Cyberpunk 2077 comics too. So these comics that based on popular video still won’t get attraction to local comic book stores?
I mean The Cyberpunk anime was so popular it saved the video game itself, with a few updates to fix the bugs(I wish someone fix my bugs as well.)
So if Cyberpunk 2077 popular is it remember fondly over the years including the comics as well? The comics are mostly standalone story arc that you start on any, you do not. need to start on issue 1 like DC and Marvel. I know Cullen Bunn is one the writers of Cyberpunk 2077 comic.
Yes, and it will be crowd funded or a webtoon. If you mean from the Big Boys? No.
Hot Take: AI art is good for comics because artists have and always will be overworked and severely underpaid. The position isn't sustainable in this industry and I think using AI and then hiring someone to touch it up will be better for everyone involved as long as the pay does not go down from what it currently is.
That’s a big IF. What we learned from Perch is that DC and Marvel will find the lowest page rate possible, even if the artist may die of starvation.
But it will mean that making comics could become more affordable for indies, who knows how that will transform the industry?
I agree with the person who wrote in as poor writing and artistic talent is due to the lack of time alone to develop your skillset, your imagination in favor of regurgitating something they saw somewhere else.
Distraction and mindless consumption are detrimental to creativity and places society in real jeopardy of collapse.
Instant mindless and disposable creation via A.I. will only speed us to a perlilous end.
Can you imagine being alerted to a new A.I. created/assisted song, news report, film, animated short, streaming series, novel, comic book every 10 min. via your smart device?
Entertainment or entrainment?
What a nightmare world of anxiety-ridden, ambitionless, unimaginative weaklings might humanity become.
Why do anything when A.I. can do it for you?
HARD PASS.
I’ll only remember these comics as being gosh awful.
Moving forward i want to see video evidence of the art being produced by hand, the old way. I'll opem my wallet and sponsor that, I'll be damned before i purchase anything A.i based.... Cheap shit
It’s because the democratization of the arts has led to a decline in the quality of arts across the board. When the high standards of past creative fiction returns, so will the quality of art return.
That’s why channels like this are so necessary, as much as the writers of this drivel try to malign them. Calling out the bad art, will at least allow a consensus of what is bad, writers can do the opposite of that and then at least create what is good. And then looking at what is both bad and good, artists will make art that is great.
...Because they're terrible.