Fantastic filming of a British built Phantom 25 with a very brave crew with their foot firmly planted on the floor. These guys are running in the mid 80’s. On the limit.
Hi Mike, yes it was a very good period of the offshore racing in France, with a big batch of P21/P25. Mid 80's speed for Speedy on the video seems close to the reality. And special thanks to Yann Cadoret who gave me the VHS videotape and Georges Tribolo the Speedy P25 driver who is 73 this year.
THIS HAPPENS ALWAYS 😢 ALWAYS COMES SOMEONE AND FUCKS UP SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL OUT OF PROFIT AND DESTROYS INDIVIDUALS WITH REAL PASSION FOR THAT ACTIVITY . THAT OTHER GUY HAS NO REAL PASSION ONLY FAME AND RECOGNITION AND PROFIT DRIVEN. HAPPENS EVERYWHERE ... NO MATTER THE SCALE HAPOENS BETWEEN RELATIVES FRIENDS EVERYDAY ... ALWAYS KNOW WHO TO INVITE WHO TO TELL OR YOU WILL PAY ❤
I've been a helicopter pilot for nearly 25 years and I'm very familiar with how loud they are inside. I'm actually really surprised that you can hear the boats that well over the noise of what sounds to me like a Bell 206.
Well spoted, but to avoid chopper sound you Need to use directionnel microphone. Cardioid Cardioid microphones pick up sound from only one direction; from in front of the microphone. This means that they are very effective for interviews or performances in loud places, where ambient sound needs to be cancelled out in favor of the interviewee or performer.
Johnson my favourite outboard engines. The sound was unmatched!. As a boy it was alway's Johnson because of the "deep roar" sound. The others sounded like "sissy's" to me.
@@TheRING21E Thanks for posting. I really enjoyed watching. It took me back to 1974 when I saw my first twin Mercury, I think 120 hp 6 cylinder..the tall ones, on a small boat in Lake Providence LA. I think it ran maybe 70 MPH. Most boats ran 40 or so then. Thanks again.
@@wms1650 Thanks for your your words, in the early 80', I have had a 90 6 cyl also, called tower of power, Your twin's mercury were probably a pair of 115 vertical 6cyl , very thirsty engines like the 90 and the 140 of the same series. Back in the 70 in my country I cannot remember a man saying his boat went to 70 mph, so your boat speed was amazing for a leisure boat in this period!
I have one of those engines, built, machined, race ignition, lower unit, just sitting in my garage sleeping for the past 5 yrs. when i remove the side plates on the lower unit. It sounds like a 454 big block drag engine on meth idling. just incredible. I should clarify. Its sitting on the back of my very rare mint condition 1988 Stratos 200 VT Rocket designed by Roark Summerford himself. I also have one of Roarks 1986 STV Pro Comp Sprint bottoms with stepped sponsons. Thats one of the rare 400 lb light weight hulls he built. That boat holds one of Jon Wrights worlds fastest Mercury 2.5 boat engines out of Tinker Toy. World record of 156mph in 1,000ft I believe was the distance.
@@christianmgtow4744 I would sell it. But it goes with the rare mint 1988 Stratos 200 VT ROCKET it originally came with and the original trailer. About 180 made by Roark Summerford.
@@christianmgtow4744 the sound up close and in real life is incredible. My lower unit has side windows not an off shore snout. But holy moly. Sounds like it's 1978 and your standing next to a blown alcohol BBC slurping and burping just waiting to drain the lake.
200hp was the base of the limited engine serie, I've an old document which says the 200 GT stock power is 250hp@5500rpm/ with the ski sport kit the power was 265hp at 6500/ with the river race kit the power was 295hp @6750rpm, so the limited edition could be in this range of power, may be someone who worked at Second effort back in the end of 80's, can tell us more.
@@ct1762 the limited edition of this boat were bought directly from factory, like this.And prop power far above 220 hp, pls check archives of std JONHSON GT, I've power test of this GT serie.
@@TheRING21E a stock 200gt is not much more than the 10% allowance of hp. The only limited edition factory motors were the 93 and up 200 finger port motors but again about 225hp at the prop unless second effort made a modified limited edition ?
Eseccional el poder del caballaje y navegabilidad del casco definitivamente imponente incluso si en la actualidad la volvieran a someter a otro reto igual similar o superior estoy seguro seria nuevamente implacable
Bonjour. Cette course a été organisé par menhir aventure.( Daniel Hélie dont je suis le fils c est une très belle course et ça rappel plein de souvenir. Jean Pierre Foucault y était présent en spectateur.
Bonsoir Frédérick, J’ai réussi à récupérer quelques belles séquences de l'évènement, elle est complète à 90%, quelques parties de la VHS endommagée, on voit surement votre père, car il y a le briefing avant course et la remise des trophées. Bel évènement qui a marqué la période en tout cas. Il doit me rester une image publicitaire menhir aventure de l'évènement de Lorient 1989
Bonsoir. J'ai la VHS en entier on y voit mon père effectivement c'est la personne avec les cheveux gris et des lunettes de soleil. Oui Lorient c'était aussi un gros événements la course est est compliqué car beaucoup de vague. Ça fait plaisir de voir que des gens s'intéressent à c'est courses. J'ai d'autres VHS sur les autres événements. Cordialement Frédérick.
J'aurai bien aimé avoir vos VHS pour en tirer quelques séquences courtes, j'aurais pu vous les numériser aussi avant que les bandes ne soient collées et donc hors d'usage pour tout le monde.
something around 90mph+ for the black P25 2 x200GT, on a river, light on fuel, the best top with high pitched propeller was around 100 mph per info I've got. скоростта е около 90 mph / за черния P 25 2 x200GT, на реката, с малко гориво, най-добрият връх с високи витла беше около 100 mph в зависимост от информацията, която имам.
Yes, well spotted, I've tested this one , for this race the boat was fitted with a 2.4EFI 28inch propeller @ 6900rpm chopper gear ratio 1.87, pretty fast in her category, and champ at the end of all events of this 1989 year competition
@@TheRING21E thanks for your response. Thats an amazing story you have there. I owned a Piranha Espada which is a smaller version. Cool that a belgium boat made it that far! Really enjoyed the video, thanks again
@@royvisser90 I Owned a Piranha Carrera also, they were not built in the same way, the boat you can see on the video was very well built, if you're interested on piranha boat story there is a long post on boatmad.com. The location were the piranha boats were built in Antwerpen went on fire and all the moulds completely destroyed as far I know.
@@TheRING21E thanks for the info im gonna register to that forum tonight. If u dont mind, is the difference between a piranha carrera Performance wise big vs a ring or phantom?
Damn 150 knots?? 2:36 Different sripes different year model??26 Pantera or Cigarette, Phantom?? Bad it isnt the V8´s but that sound from the V6 you could not have that pure sound with the V8´s??
At the end we reached the pilot who is now in his seventies, he said the top speed is 162km/h so close to 100 mph, the boat is a phantom 25 made by Steve Baker in UK, the engine cowlings are different due to loss of one in a previous race, the rev limiter on these limited edition's are 8000rpm.
but discussing yesterday with another pilot , driving a piranha carrera 2.4efi in the same race, he doubt the top speed was 100mph , 90mph should be more accurate, as the following year, most boats went to 2.4 efi
Phantom’s Steve Baker has passed away on 15th November 2020 Steve Baker, the designer and builder of Phantom Boats, has passed away. Baker’s sports boat building company that was based in Sittingbourne, Kent produced over 1000 hulls from 1970 to 2001. The boats that ranged from 16′ upwards were sold all over the world for pleasure and racing.
The feeling of flying past the pack then taking the lead. It gives me goosebumps. The power and speed they had in the throttle.
The sound of two screaming OMC gave me the goosebumps
Fantastic filming of a British built Phantom 25 with a very brave crew with their foot firmly planted on the floor. These guys are running in the mid 80’s. On the limit.
Hi Mike, yes it was a very good period of the offshore racing in France, with a big batch of P21/P25. Mid 80's speed for Speedy on the video seems close to the reality. And special thanks to Yann Cadoret who gave me the VHS videotape and Georges Tribolo the Speedy P25 driver who is 73 this year.
Co pilote christian sollier 71 ans
a lot more exciting race than nowadays!
Most incredible outboard sound and speed ever!
That guy has balls and that hull was faired very well!!!!!
There's me in the 25hp 2-stroke jonboat with only the gas tank all the way up front weighing me down 😆
One of my Favourite offshore race videos.
This is when racing was its best. The normal guy could enter and do this before corporations fucked it up.
More like Middle East governments fucked it up
THIS HAPPENS ALWAYS 😢 ALWAYS COMES SOMEONE AND FUCKS UP SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL OUT OF PROFIT AND DESTROYS INDIVIDUALS WITH REAL PASSION FOR THAT ACTIVITY . THAT OTHER GUY HAS NO REAL PASSION ONLY FAME AND RECOGNITION AND PROFIT DRIVEN. HAPPENS EVERYWHERE ... NO MATTER THE SCALE HAPOENS BETWEEN RELATIVES FRIENDS EVERYDAY ... ALWAYS KNOW WHO TO INVITE WHO TO TELL OR YOU WILL PAY ❤
corporations fuck up everything, that's why we need a third party
Wow those motors are taking a beating . He's driving his a** off , great hull
What's the spec on that hull
The black one just walked off and left everybody. WOW! 😮
outboards have a sound all their own,
I've been a helicopter pilot for nearly 25 years and I'm very familiar with how loud they are inside. I'm actually really surprised that you can hear the boats that well over the noise of what sounds to me like a Bell 206.
Well spoted, but to avoid chopper sound you Need to use directionnel microphone. Cardioid
Cardioid microphones pick up sound from only one direction; from in front of the microphone. This means that they are very effective for interviews or performances in loud places, where ambient sound needs to be cancelled out in favor of the interviewee or performer.
@@brunomartin3876 Interesting! Thanks for that info. :)
Johnson my favourite outboard engines. The sound was unmatched!. As a boy it was alway's Johnson because of the "deep roar" sound. The others sounded like "sissy's" to me.
tough johnson. extreme performance.
Love the sound of props barking
Ken Fung it's mint
Francoois van yperen
That's not the props barking, that's the exhaust sound. It still makes the same sound but higher pitch when the props out of the water.
Total eargasm
The quality of the video for that old is pretty good
Yeap!, but it was time to recover the good moments of this 31 years old video.
@@TheRING21E Thanks for posting.
I really enjoyed watching.
It took me back to 1974 when I saw my first twin Mercury, I think 120 hp 6 cylinder..the tall ones, on a small boat in Lake Providence LA.
I think it ran maybe 70 MPH.
Most boats ran 40 or so then.
Thanks again.
@@wms1650 Thanks for your your words, in the early 80', I have had a 90 6 cyl also, called tower of power, Your twin's mercury were probably a pair of 115 vertical 6cyl , very thirsty engines like the 90 and the 140 of the same series. Back in the 70 in my country I cannot remember a man saying his boat went to 70 mph, so your boat speed was amazing for a leisure boat in this period!
@@TheRING21E great job on the restore an recovery of the video
Nicely done!
Great vid. Thought Mercury dominated the racing scene, fun to see other moto brands
all those people @ 1:15 and nobody bothered to take in the fender haha
I have one of those engines, built, machined, race ignition, lower unit, just sitting in my garage sleeping for the past 5 yrs. when i remove the side plates on the lower unit. It sounds like a 454 big block drag engine on meth idling. just incredible. I should clarify. Its sitting on the back of my very rare mint condition 1988 Stratos 200 VT Rocket designed by Roark Summerford himself. I also have one of Roarks 1986 STV Pro Comp Sprint bottoms with stepped sponsons. Thats one of the rare 400 lb light weight hulls he built. That boat holds one of Jon Wrights worlds fastest Mercury 2.5 boat engines out of Tinker Toy. World record of 156mph in 1,000ft I believe was the distance.
Do you want to sell it? I'm working on reconstructing these second effort V6 outboards. I was able to find one second effort exhaust snout.
@@christianmgtow4744 I would sell it. But it goes with the rare mint 1988 Stratos 200 VT ROCKET it originally came with and the original trailer. About 180 made by Roark Summerford.
@@DumbCarGuy bummer. Is that a second effort build? I'm putting a set of twins on a rage svl Poker Run. Trying to duplicate the sound in the video
@@christianmgtow4744 the sound up close and in real life is incredible. My lower unit has side windows not an off shore snout. But holy moly. Sounds like it's 1978 and your standing next to a blown alcohol BBC slurping and burping just waiting to drain the lake.
If your in the know. I also have one of the legendary Jon Wright Tinker Toy engines. World record 156mph / 1000ft.
Those Johnsons definitely kicked ass in those days but the 2.4 mercs were equally beasty
One year after this event, for the 1990 racing season on this P25 a pair of 2.4 EFI has been installed.
Amazing machine
25 ft with a pair of 2.5 Mercury vps totally unbeatable. I had said outfit
yea the revs are really nice to have thats the big benefit. then again i believe these omc's had even fire cranks so 7000 was easy
Phantpn 25/8 and dobbel omc 🤩
that's insane. like the k&K ghost. nice.
200hp was the base of the limited engine serie, I've an old document which says the 200 GT stock power is 250hp@5500rpm/ with the ski sport kit the power was 265hp at 6500/ with the river race kit the power was 295hp @6750rpm, so the limited edition could be in this range of power, may be someone who worked at Second effort back in the end of 80's, can tell us more.
@@TheRING21E they put out about 220hp at the prop. Second effort motors were not stock.
@@ct1762 the limited edition of this boat were bought directly from factory, like this.And prop power far above 220 hp, pls check archives of std JONHSON GT, I've power test of this GT serie.
@@TheRING21E a stock 200gt is not much more than the 10% allowance of hp. The only limited edition factory motors were the 93 and up 200 finger port motors but again about 225hp at the prop unless second effort made a modified limited edition ?
My old 1986 vro 150 was a beast on my 18ft seacraft
Speedy...👀👍😎
Hopefully Evinrude will emerge again victorious after covid stuff.
Cept they shut down and covid isn't going anywhere because it's a virus
This aged like milk
When you gotta get to the honey hole first
Me: "How many RPMs?"
Boat geezers: "Yes"
Звук двигателей, просто песня!
HELL... HAMER ... DOWN..
I Run My Evinrude like this EVERY TIME I GO OFFSHORE....
how many spare gearcases do you have?
Eseccional el poder del caballaje y navegabilidad del casco definitivamente imponente incluso si en la actualidad la volvieran a someter a otro reto igual similar o superior estoy seguro seria nuevamente implacable
Nah run of 99
How long are those 2 strokes running at that rpm? By the sounds they are running wide open?
It kills no competition
Amazing
I love two stroke V6s
Bonjour.
Cette course a été organisé par menhir aventure.( Daniel Hélie dont je suis le fils c est une très belle course et ça rappel plein de souvenir.
Jean Pierre Foucault y était présent en spectateur.
Bonsoir Frédérick, J’ai réussi à récupérer quelques belles séquences de l'évènement, elle est complète à 90%, quelques parties de la VHS endommagée, on voit surement votre père, car il y a le briefing avant course et la remise des trophées. Bel évènement qui a marqué la période en tout cas. Il doit me rester une image publicitaire menhir aventure de l'évènement de Lorient 1989
Bonsoir.
J'ai la VHS en entier on y voit mon père effectivement c'est la personne avec les cheveux gris et des lunettes de soleil.
Oui Lorient c'était aussi un gros événements la course est est compliqué car beaucoup de vague.
Ça fait plaisir de voir que des gens s'intéressent à c'est courses.
J'ai d'autres VHS sur les autres événements.
Cordialement Frédérick.
J'aurai bien aimé avoir vos VHS pour en tirer quelques séquences courtes, j'aurais pu vous les numériser aussi avant que les bandes ne soient collées et donc hors d'usage pour tout le monde.
Je vous comprends mais j'y tiens énormément mon père étant décédé.
Comment avez-vous eu cette vidéo ?
Où il faudrait se rencontrer.
De plus il faudrait faire le tri car j' ai aussi les courses de jet ski rally nautique.
I and my wife on the boat ))
I never knew Johnsons were used to race.
At least they race with magic sounds!
1:23 to 1:32 phantom boat to port side.... look at the prop wash and no boat....
What is that?
@@cmoikahk4505 weird isn't it? I can't even see how it could be a cross wake.
Those single engine boys had a job to hold them in straight line boat would rock from side to side they call that chineing very scarey
the black phantom 25 was driven by Jo Tribolo..
Ci pilote Sollier Christian
The Best money can buy
Ridiculous how easy he beat all the other boats
Awesome
Damm that's what I'm talking about J200s
Can I use some clips for my music video?
Yes you can , and send me a copy or a link to see the result
Красота!!! Speed ???
something around 90mph+ for the black P25 2 x200GT, on a river, light on fuel, the best top with high pitched propeller was around 100 mph per info I've got. скоростта е около 90 mph / за черния P 25 2 x200GT, на реката, с малко гориво, най-добрият връх с високи витла беше около 100 mph в зависимост от информацията, която имам.
У меня казанка с вихрем круче наваливает)))
Realey nice vid keep it up mate😎😎😎😎😎👌👌👌
Francoois van yperen
I just need to get involved in that game but I don’t how to
Try this = ua-cam.com/video/Psxktpxkc6o/v-deo.html
Save up a lot of money.
What gearcases could they be running?!
The gear cases came from '' second effort evinrude'' you can see the gearcase here at 26 sec= ua-cam.com/video/ntbwtOBsjtw/v-deo.html
Thats when men had balls and no guts, somewhere to store them.
"Men" today are driving their little electric toy cars saving us all. Can't make too much noise either they would chite their panties. Sad 😂😂
Nice
Nitro?
The last boat was that a piranha carrera?
Yes, well spotted, I've tested this one , for this race the boat was fitted with a 2.4EFI 28inch propeller @ 6900rpm chopper gear ratio 1.87, pretty fast in her category, and champ at the end of all events of this 1989 year competition
@@TheRING21E thanks for your response. Thats an amazing story you have there. I owned a Piranha Espada which is a smaller version. Cool that a belgium boat made it that far! Really enjoyed the video, thanks again
@@TheRING21E the Piranha hull is stronger then i thought! He gets a rough beating this race
@@royvisser90 I Owned a Piranha Carrera also, they were not built in the same way, the boat you can see on the video was very well built, if you're interested on piranha boat story there is a long post on boatmad.com. The location were the piranha boats were built in Antwerpen went on fire and all the moulds completely destroyed as far I know.
@@TheRING21E thanks for the info im gonna register to that forum tonight. If u dont mind, is the difference between a piranha carrera Performance wise big vs a ring or phantom?
Fly baby.. Fly !!!🤪😱😈👻
Damn 150 knots?? 2:36 Different sripes different year model??26 Pantera or Cigarette, Phantom?? Bad it isnt the V8´s but that sound from the V6 you could not have that pure sound with the V8´s??
At the end we reached the pilot who is now in his seventies, he said the top speed is 162km/h so close to 100 mph, the boat is a phantom 25 made by Steve Baker in UK, the engine cowlings are different due to loss of one in a previous race, the rev limiter on these limited edition's are 8000rpm.
105mph plus
@@TheRING21E Was it race engines or regular limited editions??
@@herrbananhjarnasmith7598 as far i know the engines where bought trough evinrude France, so regular limited edition
but discussing yesterday with another pilot , driving a piranha carrera 2.4efi in the same race, he doubt the top speed was 100mph , 90mph should be more accurate, as the following year, most boats went to 2.4 efi
Steve Baker do you remember us on your father poutry farm with my mum Mrs Veasey
Phantom’s Steve Baker has passed away on 15th November 2020
Steve Baker, the designer and builder of Phantom Boats, has passed away.
Baker’s sports boat building company that was based in Sittingbourne, Kent produced over 1000 hulls from 1970 to 2001.
The boats that ranged from 16′ upwards were sold all over the world for pleasure and racing.
Why are the fastest boats always black??
My money is on 42 the black boat !!
Phantom 25 made in UK, good choice!
lol speedy yeehaw yeehaw andale andale 😂😂😂😂
Speeeeeeeeeeedy
Would run a pair of 25 inch cleavers servise water running props they cost £1000 the pair then.
Bridgeport
Drive it like you stole it...
Апиратор парнуху снимал раньше! ,,Все крупным планом,,
(225) NO 200
Pilote jo tribolo
Co pilote Sollier Christian
Course à Carry le rouet
What planet was this race, theres usually that 1 guy that likes shit the hard way but 3 or 4 trying to make an omc last the entire race. Crazy
Охуительнльно sbedd
Still one of my favourites 🤌🏻 speedy was gone