"You're making greatest failure." "I'm scared of you." "You're a ******* disappointment." "Everyone was terrified of you from your first breath." Is there any wonder why he's so broken
Every time the screen blacks out is when season 4 homelander would’ve killed the person disrespecting him. Looking back at the patience and mental stability he had is hilarious. Especially knowing back then I thought he was unhinged. Season 4 he’s just….yeah.😅😭
@@isaiahtoolegit Oh, please. Superman? That boy scout couldn't handle the real world. Sure, he's strong, and he's got that whole "truth, justice, and the American way" thing going for him. But me? I've got the edge, the ruthlessness, and the willingness to do whatever it takes to win. Superman might play by the rules, but I am the rules. So, when it comes down to it, I'd crush him. No contest.
Dude was messed by those idiots, he would have grown to be an awesome hero if they would not had tortured him his whole childhood. If I were him I'd clean the whole world of that plague called humanity and go on another planet.
The ending of season-3 was absolutely dumb and it completely did something that was opposite of Butcher's character. Like, given the hatred he bears for homelander, it's unlikely he would have betrayed SB in a practical situation. He could've found another way to save Ryan but completely demolishing his best bet against Homelander was just trashy. Same goes for everyone else
@@RexPomaro It's a contrivance to keep Homelander alive. Like Op said, there could have been plenty of alternative ways in which Butcher could have evacced Ryan and proceeded with the plan. Homelander was a top threat and more of a danger than Soldier Boy. Despite how much of an asshole bully Soldier Boy proved to be to his crew, he actually knew when to restrain himself and listen to others. The writers showed us that he would never want to actively kill civilians on a global scale like Homelander would and could. He never thought to take advantage of his chest nuke as a means to take over a country or Vought. He just wanted revenge against his team (even if they weren't in the wrong in that scenario), and then he'd probably just fuck off and not bother anyone. And yet the climax tried to pretend that suddenly he was the same type of psycho as Homelander that needed to be put down. The writers definitely messed up if that was their intention.
@@SirGrimLockSmithVIII The whole point about soldier boy wasn’t that he was crazy like homelander, it was that he attacked Ryan, perpetuating the cycle of abuse throughout his family. Butcher immediately turned on him because he was protective of Ryan and had changed enough so that he was willing to set aside his main objective to put down soldier boy. The writers nailed soldier boy, because paternal abuse is a massive influence on his character. As for the fact that they could evacuate Ryan and continue, once SB attacked him that wasn’t an option for two reasons: 1. The fight was extremely intense and if butcher left homelander would wipe the floor with everyone, and 2. Butcher’s morals have grown, so the point is that though it may not have been what the old Butcher would have done, doing the “irrational” thing and killing soldier boy for perpetuating abuse shows character development on Butcher’s side.
@@RexPomaro Your thematic analysis of the moment only works when you conveniently ignore that Homelander is still right there and will continue to enact far worse things than paternal abuse if he lives to see another day. Stopping Soldier Boy in the name of ending an abusive paternal cycle does wrap things up in a neat little bow on a theoretical level, but when the scene that's supposed to make this thesis statement is actually executed, there are certain aspects which seem to go askew. The writers, for one thing, established that Soldier Boy is capable of reason so long as you don't sound like Hughie. Soldier Boy seemed to respect and listen to Butcher during their brief stint together so if Butcher spoke up about Ryan or briefed him on the situation before confronting Homelander then there was a chance that he would have made an accommodation. Another thing to note is that Soldier Boy didn't really pay much attention to Ryan until Ryan lasered him. Obviously then he went ham for a sec and slammed the poor kid into a wall, but nothing about that move seemed inherently abusive in the way the writers wanted it to come across. All of his "paternal hate" was directed at Homelander during his monologue but he never shared that same animosity towards Ryan initially. The punch he dealt to Ryan still had the mark of a toxic bully who didn't know how to deal with non-shitty people standing up to him (like whenever Hughie called him out), but that was more of a one-and-done "stay out of my way" tap rather than a "I will proceed to redirect all of my self hatred out on this kid specifically for as long as I live because he has my blood" type of gesture like he made towards Homelander. And that key difference in intent is the crux of the mistake that the writers were making when attempting to write Soldier Boy as equally despicable as Homelander. It's the same thing that plagues Soldier Boy's history with Mother's Milk's family. Did he actually deliberately target MM's grandfather for a racially motivated murder like Stormfront killing that old lady's father back in the 60s, or was it just a case of involuntary manslaughter like A Train running through Robin? Both case are fucking awful for sure, and both acts deserve criminal punishment, but one is clearly worse than the other. The writers kept telling us that Soldier Boy was no better than Homelander, but then they would accidentally not go far enough with an action that he's supposed to take that's supposed to prove that he's no better than Homelander or would slip in certain things or withhold information that would nullify the action to some degree. If the writers really wanted to keep consistent with the parental abuse theme, if they really wanted to show that Soldier Boy needed to be taken out in that finale confrontation, then they should have really made him go off on Ryan after that initial retaliation. Have him spit out the most vile thing he could say to his grandson that made it clear he saw him in the same way as Homelander beyond a half-assed "You little shit". Make him scream some weird unhinged drivel you would only hear from an old folk's home as he starts walking towards Ryan with the specific intent to finish what he's started to him and only him, as if he's conflating Ryan and Homelander for the same person in a PTSD-induced rage. Him silently starting the chest laser again just feels too disconnected and detached, especially when it turns out Maeve survived the nuke in the end, so for all we knew he was just gonna depower Homelander and Ryan since they're supposed to be much stronger than her.
@@SirGrimLockSmithVIII you might be right about the soldier boy perpetuating abuse on Ryan thing not hitting hard enough, but regardless the point still gets across. When I watched the episode, I interpreted it as SB attacking Ryan because he thought he was weak. As for the argument that Homelander is a bigger threat, that’s definitely true. And it’s going to be a plot point that Butcher will have to deal with. The scene wasn’t attempting to tie everything up, it was posing a question to Butcher for s4: did he do the right thing? Should he have killed Homelander?
That’s what a lot of bashing and betrayals does to a motherfucker. At the start of the series, Homelander was on top, unchallenged, and unquestioned in his superiority. He saw himself as perfect because no one had told him otherwise, so he was far more secure and in control. But since season 1, he’s had people (who MADE him) tell him he’s not just imperfect, he’s a failure. You hear that enough times, you’ll start to believe it. On top of that, he’s had to murder multiple lovers and threaten many “friends” because they just kept screwing him over. Of course he’s unhinged now. Shit’s been going wrong for him ever since Butcher decided to become a problem. This is not to excuse his behavior btw. It’s just fascinating to see how much he’s fallen and how the actor portrays that in the later seasons. He’s not a different character, external consequences shaped him into the hair-trigger transparent psycho he is now.
1:10 This is one of my favorite moments because rather than killing the dude he just yells at him in a Christian Bale freakout type of way and whenever I see it the caption "When you come home from school and your mother stripped your bedsheets and cleaned them"
It really irks me that Homelander leaked god knows how many vials of compound V into the wild and the show completely gave up the sub-plot. It would be refreshing and give the show even more complexity if there were some strong villains now that Homelander was stopping, saving the country. It would make his character and the situation surrounding him even more complex.
@@rpgprime Well, then never introduce it. Introducing it and then acting like it never happened is called bad writing. It's a plot hole, just like abandoning Kimiko and Frenchie's relationship, and pretending like a guy like Butcher wouldn't be celebrated in a covert CIA operation. Or everyone hating Butcher when he at the end of season 3 he overcame his greatest selfish desire to do the right thing, and is actively trying to be better. This show tanked hardcore.
@@someordinarydude9147 kimiko and frenchie's relationship completed it's arc, they realized they love each other as family. and why the fuck would Butcher be celebrated after pushing away their one chance against Homelander then getting himself an expiration date? it isnt bad just because you don't like where it's going
I feel bad for homelander. It seems like no one ever really tried to get close to him or really talk to him and help him overcome his trauma. Dr Vogelbaum just treated him like a science project and then told him he was a failure,Queen Maeve wasnt trying to help him out or get close to him on an emotional level. Everyone was terrified of him and lied to him constantly. I understand he didnt help himself by being a juevenile jerk but Homelander really is a tragic character and Vought are the real villains.
In these clips it does seem like they be picking on him. You can almost feel sympathy until you remember in-between these clips he's committing atrocities left and right.
It’s kinda crazy how in season one for the most part Homelander seemed pretty reasonable and level headed. Sure he was still a psycho and had bits of that shine through, like with the flight they downed. But I really think his act in that was more “I fucked up this mission and I’m pissed”
Giving how Homelander reacted when the protestors began lashing out at him, it's very likely that in the first clip he's imagining Butcher being killed in a similar manner, all before he gets a valid reason to do so.
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Homelander actually seems reasonable in these clips. 2024 Homelander would’ve killed Randy Setdeck for the blanket
Randy Setdeck got off easy. Dude should play the lottery
Too right, also laughed my ass off at this scene then and now, almost gives me “What we do in the Shadows” type energy; “Randy, why??” 😂
already five years since the tv series started...
@@nosireyessirno homelander in s1 was scary s4 homelander is 🤡
“Im the greatest superhero.”
“You’re my greatest failure”
You’re*
You’re*
"You're making greatest failure."
"I'm scared of you."
"You're a ******* disappointment."
"Everyone was terrified of you from your first breath."
Is there any wonder why he's so broken
You're**
Thanks
hes got a lot more patience here than in the new season
Well he was a lot more mentally stable
was just thinkin the same thing, if randy put that blanket on his bed in season 4, the whole set would be dead
cause Stan's gone and he can do whatever the f he wants😂
Yeah, sometimes he has to swing his big balls around to remind people that he has them.
He’s no longer restrained by Stillwell and Edgar.
4:50 Homeland racing Stan Edgar to the seat like a child lol
Lol
I don't see why he didn't use superspeed.
@@richieshambharkar3938 he doesnt have super speer
1:17 I don’t see a lot of people talking about just how realistic homelanders “you fucking asshole” line is here
I love the way he executed that line. It’s so funny and realistic
Season 4 homelander would’ve instantly laser eyed him
Legends say that this wasn't scripted, Antony was just upset they messed up the set and the other guys were still terrified of him. (Not really)
He sounded more hurt than mad and it makes total sense.
4:59 this part was fuking hilarious
bro had the audacity to drink a yummy delicious milkshake in front of him 🤣
@@atlas_uraeusi think the person who made the comment was referring to stan edgar taking homelander’s seat while homelander was trying to jog to it😂
The little childlike strut he made lmaooo
Interesting how they cut it off just when he's about to destroy the other party for nothing but stand up to him. Nicely cut.
Kind of the point.
Every time the screen blacks out is when season 4 homelander would’ve killed the person disrespecting him. Looking back at the patience and mental stability he had is hilarious. Especially knowing back then I thought he was unhinged. Season 4 he’s just….yeah.😅😭
4:57
The guy was such a man-child and I f*cking loved it! 🤣😂
Poor John. Seems like a patient and reasonable guy
0:00 the most on sight since Peter and the chicken
i expect over half of this video to include edgar in it
Looking back it was really Brave for that to flip homelander
Hope Randy Setdeck bought a lottery ticket that day, lucky fella.
1:11 that's a towel, why did he call it a blanket?
Poor man
Never compile again...
I love how you can clearly see his mental health declines over time 😂
He just keeps spiralling and it's so funny to witness. 🤣
Stan edgar cooked him
For no reason!
@@homelandertvHe turned his adopted daughter into a front woman to turn Homelander whistleblower to take him down.
Seems like a valid roast to me.
@@homelandertvyou vs Superman who wins?
@@isaiahtoolegit Oh, please. Superman? That boy scout couldn't handle the real world. Sure, he's strong, and he's got that whole "truth, justice, and the American way" thing going for him. But me? I've got the edge, the ruthlessness, and the willingness to do whatever it takes to win. Superman might play by the rules, but I am the rules. So, when it comes down to it, I'd crush him. No contest.
What good would that do??
Yummers
yummers
homelander is such a nice guy why is everyone so mean 2 him
They are just afraid
More like people are jealous.
Because he lasered their balls for nothing, they said.
Well I mean the guy did raped Billy butchers wife so...that pretty much sparked the war between them
When you watch shows from reels and have zero IQ
The blanket scene hits harder now after his revenge on the lab
Dude was messed by those idiots, he would have grown to be an awesome hero if they would not had tortured him his whole childhood. If I were him I'd clean the whole world of that plague called humanity and go on another planet.
Brought real world trauma to a fake set 😅 through off his fake story frfr
I guess it doesn’t matter how good of a guy you are, somebody will always want to drag you down! Homelander deserves better.
He really does
Except for the fact that he is kinda an awful human lol. But I love homelander too
Excellent observation@@NotZarape
Sorry what? Am I in an alternate universe?
@@davidn2875 Sarcasm. Learn it
In the state that Homelanders at right now, he probably would've fucked up Randy Setdeck
Bro if someone watched this with 0 context…… Dear lord they’d have the wrong impression of Supermam AKA The Homelander
I know he'd be even more evilish
The ending of season-3 was absolutely dumb and it completely did something that was opposite of Butcher's character. Like, given the hatred he bears for homelander, it's unlikely he would have betrayed SB in a practical situation. He could've found another way to save Ryan but completely demolishing his best bet against Homelander was just trashy. Same goes for everyone else
It was kind of the point that it wasn’t normal. It’s character development that had been building up from the previous seasons.
@@RexPomaro It's a contrivance to keep Homelander alive. Like Op said, there could have been plenty of alternative ways in which Butcher could have evacced Ryan and proceeded with the plan.
Homelander was a top threat and more of a danger than Soldier Boy. Despite how much of an asshole bully Soldier Boy proved to be to his crew, he actually knew when to restrain himself and listen to others. The writers showed us that he would never want to actively kill civilians on a global scale like Homelander would and could. He never thought to take advantage of his chest nuke as a means to take over a country or Vought. He just wanted revenge against his team (even if they weren't in the wrong in that scenario), and then he'd probably just fuck off and not bother anyone.
And yet the climax tried to pretend that suddenly he was the same type of psycho as Homelander that needed to be put down. The writers definitely messed up if that was their intention.
@@SirGrimLockSmithVIII The whole point about soldier boy wasn’t that he was crazy like homelander, it was that he attacked Ryan, perpetuating the cycle of abuse throughout his family. Butcher immediately turned on him because he was protective of Ryan and had changed enough so that he was willing to set aside his main objective to put down soldier boy. The writers nailed soldier boy, because paternal abuse is a massive influence on his character. As for the fact that they could evacuate Ryan and continue, once SB attacked him that wasn’t an option for two reasons: 1. The fight was extremely intense and if butcher left homelander would wipe the floor with everyone, and 2. Butcher’s morals have grown, so the point is that though it may not have been what the old Butcher would have done, doing the “irrational” thing and killing soldier boy for perpetuating abuse shows character development on Butcher’s side.
@@RexPomaro Your thematic analysis of the moment only works when you conveniently ignore that Homelander is still right there and will continue to enact far worse things than paternal abuse if he lives to see another day.
Stopping Soldier Boy in the name of ending an abusive paternal cycle does wrap things up in a neat little bow on a theoretical level, but when the scene that's supposed to make this thesis statement is actually executed, there are certain aspects which seem to go askew.
The writers, for one thing, established that Soldier Boy is capable of reason so long as you don't sound like Hughie. Soldier Boy seemed to respect and listen to Butcher during their brief stint together so if Butcher spoke up about Ryan or briefed him on the situation before confronting Homelander then there was a chance that he would have made an accommodation.
Another thing to note is that Soldier Boy didn't really pay much attention to Ryan until Ryan lasered him. Obviously then he went ham for a sec and slammed the poor kid into a wall, but nothing about that move seemed inherently abusive in the way the writers wanted it to come across. All of his "paternal hate" was directed at Homelander during his monologue but he never shared that same animosity towards Ryan initially. The punch he dealt to Ryan still had the mark of a toxic bully who didn't know how to deal with non-shitty people standing up to him (like whenever Hughie called him out), but that was more of a one-and-done "stay out of my way" tap rather than a "I will proceed to redirect all of my self hatred out on this kid specifically for as long as I live because he has my blood" type of gesture like he made towards Homelander.
And that key difference in intent is the crux of the mistake that the writers were making when attempting to write Soldier Boy as equally despicable as Homelander. It's the same thing that plagues Soldier Boy's history with Mother's Milk's family. Did he actually deliberately target MM's grandfather for a racially motivated murder like Stormfront killing that old lady's father back in the 60s, or was it just a case of involuntary manslaughter like A Train running through Robin? Both case are fucking awful for sure, and both acts deserve criminal punishment, but one is clearly worse than the other.
The writers kept telling us that Soldier Boy was no better than Homelander, but then they would accidentally not go far enough with an action that he's supposed to take that's supposed to prove that he's no better than Homelander or would slip in certain things or withhold information that would nullify the action to some degree.
If the writers really wanted to keep consistent with the parental abuse theme, if they really wanted to show that Soldier Boy needed to be taken out in that finale confrontation, then they should have really made him go off on Ryan after that initial retaliation. Have him spit out the most vile thing he could say to his grandson that made it clear he saw him in the same way as Homelander beyond a half-assed "You little shit". Make him scream some weird unhinged drivel you would only hear from an old folk's home as he starts walking towards Ryan with the specific intent to finish what he's started to him and only him, as if he's conflating Ryan and Homelander for the same person in a PTSD-induced rage.
Him silently starting the chest laser again just feels too disconnected and detached, especially when it turns out Maeve survived the nuke in the end, so for all we knew he was just gonna depower Homelander and Ryan since they're supposed to be much stronger than her.
@@SirGrimLockSmithVIII you might be right about the soldier boy perpetuating abuse on Ryan thing not hitting hard enough, but regardless the point still gets across. When I watched the episode, I interpreted it as SB attacking Ryan because he thought he was weak. As for the argument that Homelander is a bigger threat, that’s definitely true. And it’s going to be a plot point that Butcher will have to deal with. The scene wasn’t attempting to tie everything up, it was posing a question to Butcher for s4: did he do the right thing? Should he have killed Homelander?
homelander seems weirdly normal in the earlier seasons... hes a nutcase now
That’s what a lot of bashing and betrayals does to a motherfucker. At the start of the series, Homelander was on top, unchallenged, and unquestioned in his superiority. He saw himself as perfect because no one had told him otherwise, so he was far more secure and in control. But since season 1, he’s had people (who MADE him) tell him he’s not just imperfect, he’s a failure. You hear that enough times, you’ll start to believe it. On top of that, he’s had to murder multiple lovers and threaten many “friends” because they just kept screwing him over. Of course he’s unhinged now. Shit’s been going wrong for him ever since Butcher decided to become a problem.
This is not to excuse his behavior btw. It’s just fascinating to see how much he’s fallen and how the actor portrays that in the later seasons. He’s not a different character, external consequences shaped him into the hair-trigger transparent psycho he is now.
Homelander was always a nutcase, that part of him was just more hidden before.
Poor guy, why they bully him so much.
damn maybe if people would have just been a little nicer to him he probably wouldn't be so mean 😥
Maybe if he wasn’t so mean people would be nicer to him.
@@NBSV1you starlighter liberals are always accusing homelander of things he didn't do. Snowflakes just can't handle a true patriot 🗿🦅🦅🇺🇸
I mean...This is ridiculously accurate and inaccurate.
@@robotx9285 y’all missed the joke lol
@atlas_uraeus No. I didn't miss anything, I literally mean both these comments are accurate.
1:10 This is one of my favorite moments because rather than killing the dude he just yells at him in a Christian Bale freakout type of way and whenever I see it the caption "When you come home from school and your mother stripped your bedsheets and cleaned them"
Wasn't that a towel? He called it a blanket
To include the scene of Ryan yelling at him after he through him off the roof for not doing what he wanted...
It really irks me that Homelander leaked god knows how many vials of compound V into the wild and the show completely gave up the sub-plot. It would be refreshing and give the show even more complexity if there were some strong villains now that Homelander was stopping, saving the country. It would make his character and the situation surrounding him even more complex.
That’s what the show would be about if it were Marvel
@@rpgprime Well, then never introduce it. Introducing it and then acting like it never happened is called bad writing. It's a plot hole, just like abandoning Kimiko and Frenchie's relationship, and pretending like a guy like Butcher wouldn't be celebrated in a covert CIA operation. Or everyone hating Butcher when he at the end of season 3 he overcame his greatest selfish desire to do the right thing, and is actively trying to be better. This show tanked hardcore.
@@someordinarydude9147
kimiko and frenchie's relationship completed it's arc, they realized they love each other as family.
and why the fuck would Butcher be celebrated after pushing away their one chance against Homelander then getting himself an expiration date?
it isnt bad just because you don't like where it's going
@@Ziaotic Who asked you?
@@someordinarydude9147
lol
It's funny how he said a train will get fat for drinking a shake yet he always drinking milk lol
And a train probably burns way more by running..
Jokes on Soldier Boy. Homelander is fixing it right now in season 4.
1:44 imagine if he just never said that 😭😭😭
5:05 - 5:27. The cutoff makes it look like a blooper scene 😂
“Fuck you man” A TRAIN 😂
I feel bad for homelander. It seems like no one ever really tried to get close to him or really talk to him and help him overcome his trauma. Dr Vogelbaum just treated him like a science project and then told him he was a failure,Queen Maeve wasnt trying to help him out or get close to him on an emotional level. Everyone was terrified of him and lied to him constantly. I understand he didnt help himself by being a juevenile jerk but Homelander really is a tragic character and Vought are the real villains.
"I can fix him"
In these clips it does seem like they be picking on him. You can almost feel sympathy until you remember in-between these clips he's committing atrocities left and right.
1:16 😮😮😮I don't wanna be Randy right now.
The fact they thought an E6 would show up to a protest in his full uniform still blows my mind lmfao
Its criminal you didn't include the harshest line of all from Soldier Boy!!
Best 7 minutes of my life
It’s kinda crazy how in season one for the most part Homelander seemed pretty reasonable and level headed. Sure he was still a psycho and had bits of that shine through, like with the flight they downed. But I really think his act in that was more “I fucked up this mission and I’m pissed”
Giving how Homelander reacted when the protestors began lashing out at him, it's very likely that in the first clip he's imagining Butcher being killed in a similar manner, all before he gets a valid reason to do so.
Whenever I hear Becca talk, I can only hear Anissa (from Invincible) now.
1:15 randy deserved better
the guy has every right