Using 3D printing to upgrade/repair busted power tools
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Got a busted cordless power tool? I did too, with a a Dyson vacuum that worked perfectly apart from the battery. I managed to design and 3D print an adaptor to take Ryobi batteries so it could live on and keep sucking! (in a productive way).
This video is a case study in thinking outside the box and using your creative skills to repair and/or enhance items around the house in a state of disrepair.
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Hi everyone, I honestly didn't think anyone would want to print this at home but there are numerous requests so here are the STLs (and source STEP files): www.thingiverse.com/thing:4799791
Not such a big surprise for me. Main Issue on the dyson cordless vacuums is the battery..
Good job on the adapter!
Thanks I needed this!
We have a V8 with the same problem. I have Makita power tools ibn my shop, so my project will be to use your top end to mate to the Dyson and modify the bottom end for the 20v Makita batteries.
Amazing job. I have that same Dyson vacuum, and when I move to my new house I was going to go for mainly Ryobi power tools for expanding my workshop so this will be extremely useful for me once my battery goes.
Awesome job and I encourage practical print projects! There are a lot of useful Dyson prints on Thingiverse. The battery on my Dyson died in a little under a year so a replacement was covered under warranty. Next time not. The replacement battery is pricey. Like you I have Ryobi tools and I will adopt this solution the next time the battery gives up the ghost.
Dyson: Hey, you weren’t supposed to do that!
Jokes aside, this video blew my mind!
This video has Dyson shook like they're John Deere...
This is a great video, but as a precaution for followers who would make this, let me point some that might cause problems.
1. While everything would be OK in low power mode, high power mode draws about 540W.
540W for 18V means 30 amp. And that 20 amp switch in the video is definitely not enough for this load, and can cause fire. I highly recommend to use 30 amp or higher rated switch.
2. Also, this high power is more than what small 18V battery can deliver (5 18650 cells can usually deliver up to 360W).
So, using small battery in high power mode can overheat the cells very quickly, and can either kill the battery or cause fire.
Always use bigger battery that has 10 cells or more for high power mode, and leave small batteries for low power mode only.
(FYI, original V8 battery has 6 21700 cells, which can do more than 600W)
3. Even in Ryobi tools, Ryobi battery's contacts tend to cause problems. There are a lot of reports high power tools like mowers caused plastic around the battery contacts melt.
V8's high power mode draws even more power than mowers, so if the battery contact somewhat gets loose, it can cause big problems. I think some kind of measure to maintain proper battery contact should be added. (Or, using some slide-in type battery would be better)
4. Make sure all the terminals and wires are rated for 30 amp or higher if ever intending to use in high power mode.
Even if the moter draws the same 540W, Dyson's initial 21.6V would only require 25 amp to make 540W while Ryobi's 18V would need 30 amp to make the same. So even the original wires might need some upgrade.
Maybe, with a battery adapter, only using in low power mode would be the best option.
Thanks for mentioning the amperage rating for the switch because I was looking into that and trying to measure the amperage drawn at 18V from a Ryobi battery, both my multimeters maxed out at 10 and 20A. I wanted to use a limit switch with the trigger but need to find a limit switch that will handle that amount of amperage.
Believe me - your elegant adaptation of Ryobi battery power to a different device IS a big deal. Thank you so much for your generosity in sharing your well-sorted design.
One of the reasons I bought a 3D printer.
Same here. Videos like this really spark creativity for practical uses.
That's funny I bought a 3D printer so I could be very confused for a very long time! The good news is it is working. I am very confused.
Same, but I end up printing useless trinkets most of the time haha
Same here but still need to find time to learn the modelling part
@@steviemeep9686 there’s nothing wrong with having an army of plastic cats and dogs to protect your desk.
Practical projects like this are always the most gratifying for me. Great to see you found a good solution, and it's nice to keep all of the batteries in one family of tools. Congratulations on the success, and thank you for always putting out such informative and concise videos.
I have a Dyson vacuum and Ryobi power tools. This video is seriously peak UA-cam. Well done Michael.
You are not the only one, join the club.
When I bought a lathe, people kept asking me, "What do you need a lathe for"?. Next time someone asks me what I need a 3d printer for, I'll just show them this video. Perfect example. Great job!
In my humble opinion this is exactly what 3d printing is meant to solve. You did a magnificent job here.
I don't think you have to justify to us a project being 'exciting' or not. A perfect example of home printing fitting in with the reinvigorated wave of right to repair, worldwide.
I absolutely love your “practical printing” videos. I bought my first 3D printer to fix stuff around my house and have been subscribed to this channel every step of the way. Videos like this really spark my own personal creativity to design and make more intricate things to solve more complex problems.
One of the first things I printed was a new actuating switch arm for our electric kettle. I also repaired my wife's hair drier with a new switch assembly. My 3D printer (Ender 3) is something i initially thought I would only use occasionally but the reality is I use it a lot. The only issue I have is with large prints which can take many hours to complete but like you I now break things down into sections so they print faster and i have something to @play with @ whilst the next print is in progress. You have a great Channel.
Haha I've been working on this exact idea for DeWalt Batteries! Nice Job.
I was just about to start a similar project, since I have a ton of DeWalt batteries (including one of the 20/60V Flexvolt monsters) and a Dyson with a dying battery. Did you ever finish modding yours?
BTW, in case you're not aware, the DeWalt battery packs do not include a Battery Management System to guard against over-discharge. You'll need to add one between the battery and the vacuum. They're readily available on eBay and Amazon.
You can also get Ryobi battery 18V output "adaptors" which you clip onto a battery and provides you with 18V wires to use for other projects. I screw mounted one to the back of a speaker to make a boombox. They're also great for powering random stuff.
This is how I sold 3D printing to my wife - handle for fridge, water tap for garden, mini hanger for bath robe and lots of similar small things :)
Second printer need new strategy, i know....
Hehehe - vacuums; the opportunity to use the same adjective for 'good' and 'bad'. Glad you didn't resist the urge, Michael 😁
I'm guessing the 1 dislike is from Dyson
no doubt, lol
Michael, you've expanded your skills to remodel existing parts to a new level. Great ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I've had my Ender 3 for one year. I've done hundreds of kilograms through it.
Not one trinket or novelty has ever been printed on it. Only practical solutions. I think it is probably the most useful tool I have ever purchased.
Having just reverse engineered a failed hinge for my Crescent tool box, on prototype 2 now and it still not fitting, your design is like 10x more complex. Well done. caliper hell. I will use your Ryobi battery pieces .STL files to repurpose for other uses. Great video series. Highly recommended.
never thought about that huh... I have a earlier gen cordless but this is actually gives me a idea when the battery in that eventually wears out cause I've got a Ryobi and awesome thing about Ryobi they haven't changed the connector on their cordless for a long time! My dad has some really old cordless Ryobi that work just fine with the modern batteries they slap in an get to work.
Actually this kind of projects is the best by far, good job!
I don't own a Dyson or a ryobi but this sort of project is really inspirational.
This video is what's making me decide to get that exact vacuum, so I can copy this when the battery dies
Designing and printing solutions to these problems is my reason for 3D printing, and this video is a showcase for that !! WONDERFUL !!!! INSPIRATIONAL !!!!
This is the kkind of 3d printing that I like, fixing, improving, all functional. I've never watched a more intereting vaccum cleaner video!
this also shows that any complex design can be broken down and take care of a few steps/design features at a time. then add everything together. amazing work
Fantastic idea. The aftermarket batteries are sketchy. And at least you know the Ryobi batteries are decent. Great idea, I need to try something similar for my shark vacuum.
This kind of print is exactly the reason why I want to buy a 3d printer. To be able to repair stuff and not just replace it with a new buy.
Thanks for highlighting this option :)
With the new law making repairing appliances easier rather than scrapping them would be great if the manufacturers provide STL files for parts that may wear out.
I've repaired a number of appliances by designing and 3d printing parts (normally bearing holders in vacuum cleaners).
I used to work in a TV repair and rental shop. My main job was replacing resistors just after the power input, these resistors were underrated and designed to fail after about 18 months, ie just after the years' warranty ran out.
A warning for anyone thinking of a similar project: double check the battery packs you're using have an internal BMS with deep discharge protection - if they expect the tool using them to have that, you're going to have a bad time using them like this. It sounds like Ryobi packs do have this protection so Michael's project is fine, but some other brands lack them!
GREAT advice - should be pinned.
Id just replace the 18650s in the original battery 🤷♂️ plus some of them will still be ok for some uses its normally only a cell or 2 that fails to cause issues
Usually when discharged too much and reverse charged by the other cells 👍🏻
Next dyson will have its battery paired to the device with a public/private key encryption like what MB does between transmissions and engines. Take control! love it.
Well done Man...
You now have a Ryson vacuum cleaner.
Just dont make an umbrella.
@@devinholland2189 Spaciba, comrade. I like Dyobi better. Close to Dobbie.
@@Makelifehappennow Yay someone got it. I wasn't sure if anyone would.
I would love to see the OnShape modeling process for something like this. Even if it’s just a live stream. I know that’s not your style but it would be valuable information.
Totally agree. This is what's hard to find on youtube. Someone going through their design process to to final product.
@@ndivir Search for brad tallis, fusion 360.
Love this. Wish my Onshape skills were sufficient to tackle projects like this. Something to aspire to.
This project is actually immensely helpful. There are so many "dead" dysons locally. and replacement battery are mostly garbage and expensive.
I love projects like this. It's inspiring, as there is a tremendous amount of waste from simple plastic parts breaking, and batteries going dead. Great stuff!
This is awesome - not only the item, which increases the benefits of an otherwise disposable but good tool, but understanding the design and iteration process you went through. Thanks!
Thank you for making these files available. Printing my first part right now.
I found I have been designing and printing more "parts" around the house. I think it is the next step after running out of fun things to print. Good video.
This project was totally exciting. Nice design work there!
After watch this video, I'm plan to print my Dyson V8 broken parts myself!
Nicely done Michael.
This is fantastic. Even though will not ever touch a Dyson
But to say you Cad design is fab.
Exciting is highly overrated. This was a GREAT project. Thanks for the video. I'm just getting started, but you've given a perfect example of using the skills I intend to learn.
PLS MORE POWER TOOL UPGRADES PLS THIS IS TOO COOL AND USEFUL!
Yeah, this is what 3D printers are all about (for me), to make fix and mod things.
This is awesome. I can't wait to convert mine to work with my Dewalt batteries!
So good.
Now design me a 3D printable fix for my failed electric rotary head on my dyson stick.
I just took the rotating head out of mine and use it like a normal vacuum head, but without the rotary part it's definitely doesn't pick stuff up as well on my tiles.
Nice work on this, I'm doing a compact remix of this to suit the Dewalt slide batteries, but nice job, those Ryobi batteries are quite cheap and useful for many other projects
Same vacuum, same problem... Thanks a lot Mike! I have to redo it a little bit for Ozito batteries, but you saved me quite a lot of brain cells :)
I liked your design solving method... to get from A to B...
Another great tutorial that I’ve done for the in-laws👍🏻 As always mate love your work and keep at it 👍🏻
I just love your videos. It was so inspiring to see you do this kind of complex geometry. Splitting into small parts seems to be really good idea!
You could even take apart the battery pack and rebuild with bigger/higher voltage cells.
I love this video, great job!
I repaired several robotic vacuum cleaners. Single small gear, but such a pain in the.. Printed, replaced, owners are happy.
Really good stuff here. I've got an old one of these in storage that I haven't gone to get since getting into 3d printing, but it's on my very long list of stuff to do, lol
My big takeaway from this video is developing the complex design in modular steps, which really should reduce development time and wasted plastic. Even if you eventually combine all the "modules" into one print it is going to make development easier, because it forces you to concentrate on a feature or two at a time. Excellent video!
I actually made an adapter from a Kärcher vacuum hose to a Milwaukee circular saw dust port adapter. It is quite amusing to carry a battery powered vacuum cleaner on your back while you're operating a battery powered circular saw. It was basically interference fit on the vacuum side and a snug spring-latch on the circular saw side - it was a bit flimsy, but it locked quite securely and held up pretty well, considering it was the second draft print of what I designed.
A relatively short time ago, you'd have to have an extension cord, lug around a large-ish shopvac and a bulky circular saw. Now you can basically walk into a barn with no electricity, cut a sheet of plywood and have most of the dust cleaned at the same time. I'm planning on designing an adapter that slots over the drill that I can just drill holes without having to worry about the dust going everywhere.
Friggin love functional prints.
It's what i like making with my printer.
My trigger to buy a 3D printer was the lid to an ultrasonic cleaner. It was ABS, and shattered within a month because it was loaded with isopropyl alcohol. So i modeled a new one, printed it, (screwed up the hinges a little bit, fixed it with a soldering iron, filament, and patience. The PLA has been a champ.
Awesome! Very good engineering going on here! I do find this way more satisfying than printing another useless figurine.
Printed adapter plates using Terrafirma battery mounts for all my battery tools to 20 volt Porter Cable and Dewalt batteries.
9.6 volt Snap on impact, Bosch 12 volt drill, and Porter cable 14.4 volt drills and lamps(converted to led).
Thanks very much, very inspiring. Have been thinking of making an adapter to allow the stick and power head from my original Dyson, which was stolen, to mate with the replacement. Was originally disappointed to find that Dyson refreshes its patents by making small unnecessary design changes between models to make the old accessories redundant. What you have done gives me hope that I can make use of my original accessories.
Thanks for that dyson battery holder. I have TONS of these ryobi batteries and also a broken dyson. perfect.
Not bashing on cosplayers or model makers, but to me this is what 3D printing is for: fixing/improving/creating stuff with huge precision. I'd love to see more like this, I really hope (and actually believe) that local repairs of misc appliances will become far more regular in the future, as opposed to throwing away stuff and buying new. 3D-printing is a step in the right direction, away from the throwaway society we've become. Our planet needs projects like this!
That's some complex geometry to reverse engineer and print. Good job!
You’re not wrong about Dyson parts being complex. I shared two small parts on thingiverse which I modeled and printed as replacement parts for my upright Dyson, and they’re a caliper-induced nightmare :-)
This has been rattling around my head for some time now. I have the same problem! I was stultified when I removed my dyson battery just to see it was modular, but non swappable! It doesn't make sense. Then to add insult to injury, they put the switch in the battery module.
I never have come up with a good work around, but I will definitely give this a try.
One of your best videos. Really love it. That's what being a maker is all about!
Prefer these kinda videos! Nicely done
This was an awesome project! Definitely an inspiration and why I love 3D printing.
That is an awesome mod for the dyson.
Love it Michael
My most satisfying prints are prints like this that most people would find boring, or at best, slightly interesting. But, this is what 3d printing at home is really about. I mean, we all need more baby Groot, but this is the bread and butter.
Amazing. Swappable batteries is an awesome feature which I'm sure a lot of users would like (myself included) 😀
Excellent practical demo! This is one reason I got one, and one thing that terrifies parts companies!
I would like to try photogrammetry to synthesize a mesh from many photos as it takes a long time to measure complex objects. Make the surfaces matt and speckled so features can be tracked, and it should give good meshes.
I've also used a soldering iron and filament a bit like TIG welding to fill and join parts to avoid using excessive supports. It also improves layer adhesion with ABS if you can remelt and mix up the layers a bit without deforming too much!
Exactly the sort of videos I like. Awesome project with a fantastic outcome. Thanks Michael.
Awesome ryobi adapter! These kind of projects need to be more common
I found a dyson v6 in the trash. All it needed was a battery and charger from Amazon. Works perfectly now
i needed a phone mount for my sim-racing rig..... no files to suit my phone on thingiverse........First time using Tinkercad to make a design........ boom done..... very satisfying.
I have a broken Dyson battery, a 3d printer, and some Makita batteries, might have to modify this... Brill vid, clear and concise, and stops e waste going to landfill, deffo earned a thumbs up from me.
You actually just inspired me to take a look at my same V7 model and see if a Milwaukee battery will work. I'd rather use the expensive battery for more tools than just my drills. I think this would also satisfy the urge to use power tools... this is how DIY gets outta control.
Brilliant - just what I needed for my dyson. Thank you so much!
I admire the dedication. I probably would have gone for a simple battery cell replacement instead.
Amazing video, as always. I love to seeing issues and resolutions from a different perspective. I would've just replaced the batteries in the Dyson battery pack. I really like your approach and appreciate you sharing. Thank you.
One of the 1st things I made from scratch to fix a probable was a plug for my toilet paper holder. 1 fell out and was lost. That 3D printed part is still there and working like a charm.
pro tip for your barefloor head: print a rubber (TPU) skirt or flap will dramatically fix the suction. We used to put duct tape on the bottom in a single strip and it helps from debris from flicking back if you use a brushroll
no idea how i got here, but great video. really enjoyed it! thank you!
Absolutely brilliant, mate! I love how you described your iterative process so well! Thanks!
Dyson and Ryobi had a baby and this was it. Wish Ryobi and Dyson joined to make a vacuum.
Just resurrected an old busted Neato robovac that some friends gave me to tinker with. It's great apart from being bloody useless on edges. There's a screw-on plastic lip around the front edge, and I'm designing a replacement with ducts from the edges of the brush out to the corners. If that doesn't work, I'm stealing power from inside it and fitting spinny brushes, but hopefully it won't come to that.
90% of my prints are practical or broken parts. I have printed door wheels from shower door. (Pla, working for year so far), my little godson always breaks some parts of his toy, so I have to fix it to him. Broken knobs, gears from kitchen appliances, car covers, buckle and many more I managed to design and print it on my ender 3. Learning to design is mandatory in my opinion. If anyone is deciding whether to buy 3d printer, definitely, it is wonderful helper!
Really great project. It's cool how you describe your line of thinking. It really helps.
Clever design, You are really the one who pushes to be more creative with 3D printing. Thank you!
And I love my Dyson V11 Extra+ Gold Edition :D especially because I have a super fluffy dog. The vacuum cleaner saves my apartment,.
I designed walls for my 3d printer to be able to use it as oven to dry pla scraps for remelting into filament. It are 4 sloped pieces with 1 lid, that would fit 4 jars inside. The result looks boring as hell but drawing on solidworks to make it work is so much fun.
I soo like practical 3D repairs!!! Fun and satisfying!!!
Did something similar when I converted my old NiCd drill to Li. I made a bigger lower battery box section, and made it so I could add even more 18650s so it would run longer between charges. Also had to add a cheap LED volt meter and button so I could check when it needed charging.
You are a very clever dude. Thanks for this video
WOW! What a heroic effort! Way to persevere!
Awesome job! I love seeing videos of useful things done with a 3d printer.