My bunch of eBay turbines in "realistic" wind.
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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Sorry if there's a bunch of wind noise, I wasn't able to screen this before uploading and didn't have my mic with me.
I've had a bunch of people ask me how these things perform in "lower" wind. I always like posting what they did is our crazy Texas winds, but that's not a realistic example of what most people will see. We don't all have 45~50 mile per hours breezes once a week.
So here we are! During this video our wind was running between 5 and 10 miles per hour with gusts breaking just over 20 miles per hour.
From top to bottom on my board:
700w www.ebay.com/i...
500w is no longer available for sale from that vendor (good)
400w www.ebay.com/p...
iSta Breeze i1500 www.ebay.com/i...
This man doing God's work lol. So hard to find any legitimate data on all these different wind turbines. Strongly considering IstaBreeze turbines for my farm now. Many thanks to you
I Recall your channel 15+ years ago when I was also into these. Good to hear the True results TY.
Probably the best youtube video on explaining wind turbines i have ever seen
Finally I found a useful video on home wind turbine efficiency
As I see -The Ista bereze is the best. Good job! Thx, man.
That ISTa is insane compared to all of the rest.
Thank you so much for this video! I'm not able to install wind generation just yet but am in the learning & planning stages. It's so hard to find videos that show ACTUAL generation numbers for DIY or inexpensive turbines. I live right near the coast and we get a lot of wind, a few of those iSta Breeze turbines might be just the ticket. Still much more to learn. Thank you again!
Very nice!... boy I wish my wind was as straight as yours. I just raised my 800 from 25' to 35' and it made an instant improvement but still nothing like you see. I love the hummmmmm they all make.
The wind here is really great...for wind turbines. Kind of sucks for picnics and keeping dirt out of your house :D
He's a great creator, he's been going for years.I built many using Future & Ginlong Gennies. I did dozens experiments & even got modified Auto😅 Delco & Bosh Alts generating using gears & high torque Three blades
Great video showing and comparing the results of these wind turbines. Im going to purchase the istabreeze and will be making a video on it when i do, and if its OK with you ide like to mention your channel in my video as well. I think what you show here is really unique and honest, thank you.
VERY informative, useful and clear information, great video, thank you so much for your efforts to provide real stuff and data!
Glad it was helpful!
No way is that 5-10 miles per hour wind. Much more.
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Great job Mac
Thanks!
So, about 10th the eBay advertised wattage. Sounds about right for eBay.
Thank you for the information. Can you please indicate the order of the turbines (left to right) with the order of the meters monitoring them (top to bottom)?
It would be very interesting to get a computer logging on the iSta Breeze for few months and monitor the power output. Would make really interesting video. Thanks for sharing this one, btw.
Rule of thumb for wind turbines is to mount them 20ft above anything within a 100ft.
Thanks That's useful information. The max watts is only half the information they provide. They also have to give the wind speed at which that is produced. A 500 watt generator is not a lot of use if it needs 100 MPH to achieve that
Going to buy the 1500w one... price and performance look great
It is an excellent choice, I was quite abusive with mine and it always performed well.
@@ToysforWatts thank you for your feedback !
Is your ista breeze 1500 a 24v or 48v, I need it to charge my off grid batteries, I already have solar but want to add this for cloudy days.
I liked your project. It’s off grid power supply 👍
*All practical tests show that small wind turbines hardly generate any electricity! And only at very high costs!*
Because there is hardly any wind close to the ground. It is also extremely gusty, which usually shortens the service life.
Only if you need to be self-sufficient from the power grid, you should have the largest possible wind turbine for the winter on a high mast.
*With solar modules, on the other hand, you can reliably generate green electricity for 25 years at approx. 3-10 cent/kWh!*
Thank you, great information.
Love this stuff 👍
Gosh where I live we've a constant 20 miles an hour wind....I live on top of a cliff in ireland I should get these shouldn't I
If you got the wind and need the power there's no reason not to :D
Awesome. :) Just get rid of the wrenches close to your batteries; explosion waiting to happen :P
istabreez is the standout so far, yellow buggy i see
The i1500 is readily available on eBay for about $450 and at that price point I think it is the best you can do for the money with commercially available models right now. It's a real producer and easily doubled my output.
The yellow buggy is an ongoing fun little project...what I'm doing with the wind turbines is kind of an extension of that. I like to pick up cheap Chinese go karts and buggies and fix them. That one there started as an 800cc anemic boat. It's now got shocks worth more than the buggy and a CBR954RR engine in the back!
There brilliant thanks for the video
Hi, liked the exploination about the wind turbines. I did try to find the 700 watt model but the ebay lik says product not for selling anymore. Is there a product name available,
Unfortunately it's hard to find that one. Sometimes they pop up on aliexpress, but one of the reasons I do not test generic Chinese turbines anymore is because I cannot get any kind of consistent results. Even if I buy the same turbine model from the same vendor there's not a great chance that it will be the same turbine. It makes all the cheap turbines a bit of a gamble.
If you have a 36v battery, how come the energy meters show from 22v to 40v? I'm confused...
Because I am not nice to my batteries ;)
Nice video. Thanks.
GOOD JOB !!! 💪🙂👍 how many m/s
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I just found your channel, great work, have you considered designing and making your own blades? Quint Builds used some software program to do that. I wonder if that's a way to even get more power out of these?
Have you researched more about this topic. I was wondering about the same thing. Planning on getting a turbine from amazon and was wondering on strategies to extend the radius.
Hey buddy i just want to let you kno i have the same 500 watt turbine ...there was a misleading information that was provided by the better business Bureau stating the proper facts for that specific turbine .. At peak will only provide 100 watts at high winds . so 50 watts what your getting now is correct for that set-up .
Thanks for this video and the links. Im planning to buy one of these in the future. Does the Ista Breeze make any noise when its moving that would annoy people outside ? If not this looks like an amazing turbine. Also what is the best turbine you have ever tested out ?
Whether the noise it makes is bothersome or not is pretty subjective, I think it's pretty quiet. It does make a pretty good bit of noise in very very high wind (50mph+) but at that speed it's hard to hear over the wind noise.
@@ToysforWatts Thanks for the reply. I have one more question. I have a ep500pro generator from bluetti and would like to charge it from both solar & wind turbine at the same time. The problem is it has only 2 input ports. One for mc4 cable and the other for ac wall charging. Would you happen to have any suggestions on any adaptor i could use to get both charging ? im very new to this but excited to learn :)
The easiest and likely the best way to go about charging a battery backup like that is to use your solar and wind to charge an independent battery bank, and run an inverter off that bank which has a suitable output for the wall charging feature on the backup. Considering the load the independent battery bank could be comprised of inexpensive batteries like I use and you likely wouldn't need many of them....possibly just four, just enough to keep the voltage under control so an inexpensive inverter could handle the load. You would have to set up a proper charge controller and brake assembly for the turbine.
@@ToysforWatts Thank you. I really appreciate the help. If happen to have any videos showing how to set it up I would really love to see it
Hi there. Can you please let us know which IstaBreeze model is that? Is it still performing till now? Any problems occurred while you using it? Thanks
If you put them all in a row and just get a electric leaf blower from Walmart for $30! 24 hour wind! Just add a electric leaf blower! For solar power just add lights! For hydro power just pump the water back into the lake!
I tested my vevor 500 with the controller that came with it and got only 6 amps max at 12 volts before the break kicked in. With a 3 phase rectifier ( NO BREAK ) at top speed of my battery drill ( 1600 rpm ) I got 29 amps. Hurricane wind. If you use a better controller so you can set it to break later then it might make 100 - 150 watts. Me I'm going to use the 3 phase rectifier ( NO BREAK ) and a kill switch for big storms to save the battery's from higher voltage and over charge. 350 watts is 29.17 amps 12 vdc at 1600 rpm. Mine should be labeled as a 100 watt turbine.
If you are not using a 3 phase rectifier try it.
An excellent comparison video :) It sounds like the last one is the only turbine of the lot really worth buying. Is your version the one with 3 blades, or 5 blades? I assume the 5 blade model would be easier to start with lower wind, but would have a lower rpm limit.
At the opening of the video, it looks like they all have 3 blades.
WTF. there is NO damn comparison needed. That Ista breeze blows the others out of the water. Why the hell are any of the others in existence?? lol
Waxspunds like old trolley buse starting and stopping
At this moment with what you had setup, what were you running off of them? Just the shop or just for backup? I hate to be that guy asking the same question over and over but I just found your channel and started watching today.
I was running two 1000w grid tie inverters.
Hi. 2 days ago i made the mistake to buy on banggood a "4000W" vertical turbine with plastic blades. Thought it would produce some 400 but saw some vid. where it produces only 5 or 10. Really disapointing for 250bucks. Do you recommand the 700W to put on the roof of the house to compensate the cloudy days on my solar 24v off grid system?
Hi Marcel! I saw your post, we all learn some lessons the hard way :D. Hopefully it's something you can return. I have played with three different models of Chinese vertical turbines and they have all been complete failures. The only ones I've seen actually work decently were the large Aleko models, but even with them I think you're spending a lot for what you get out of them. Below are links to two my favorite turbines...the 700w model and the iSta Breeze i1500. The i1500 is easily the best value on the market right now for consumer turbines. The 700w turbine offers a little better max watt/$ ratio but on it's best days doesn't produce as much power as the i1500 does on normal duty. If you're on a very limited budget the 700w turbine is a good addition, but if you can the i1500 is considerably a better producer.
www.ebay.com/itm/232959000373?ul_noapp=true
www.ebay.com/itm/i-1500W-24V-48V-Windgenerator-iSTA-BREEZE/153174401757?hash=item23a9e7e2dd:g:714AAOSwi5Nc64Bz
@@ToysforWatts Thank you for your reply and tips. I was lucky the get a full refund from banggood and bought a 500 W 5 blades and still waiting for the city permit and the bar for monting it on the roof. The link you sent, is out of stock and they don't send to europe. Thanks again.:)
Will it fast charge my phone?
Exelente trabajo, las deducciones las saco de los comentarios pues los puedo traducir, porque no se ingles y no te entiendo nada.
I bought instabreeze i2000 turbine but don’t want to spend 700 on a charge controller, could you help find me one that is compatible. It is 48v battery bank, the instabreeze is 48v, three phase, 2000w turbine
Sorry for the late reply! I don't use an off the shelf charge controller myself. I use programmable voltage switches and solid state relays.
www.ebay.com/itm/254790335380
www.ebay.com/itm/391713162983
You just program them to direct voltage toward your batteries when appropriate, and toward your dump load when voltage gets too hot.
looks like you are in an good area for solar panels also.
that iSta Breeze is impressive!😍 which country this turbine from?
iSta Breeze is manufactured in Turkey. I have since installed a couple of larger iSta Breeze models. I'm pretty pleased by them, I think they're the best bargain out there in terms of consumer grade micro turbines.
@@ToysforWatts Which version do you have, how many blades? And which should I choose, based on average wind speed? Annual average wind speed in my area is reported at 8m/s meaning 18mph. Lot of times faster, often when I need it the most (winter).
How high do you have the Ista Breeze?
Which make is the lower one (turbine) . That seems to produce the most wattage.
iSta Breeze i1500...which is currently the best wattage/dollar ratio you can get in a consumer grade wind turbine.
Looks to me like a person is better off just adding more solar. 😮
It depends on where you are, solar is almost always more reliable and formulaic, but turbines will always have a higher power density than a solar panel.
Can you do a vid on your poles that holds the genererators
This discusses the pipe towers. I'll be doing an update to this video soon as I expand on teh tripod pipe tower the iSta Breeze is on, as well as the 30ft windmill tower I'm going to be adapting to mount a Heli 2.0.
looks good
Why no charge controller?
Cuz charge controllers are for suckers! :P
Actually, using a proper charge controller with a turbine limits you a little in that you have to have one controller per turbine. In this video I haven't fully updated the system, if you look at my newer videos I am now using a home brew controller for activating my inverters, but it's still a system controller and has very little ability to control the turbines themselves due to their being multiple generators on one circuit.
Ive been told to make it worth it, I would need a 10kW turbine on top of 120 foot tower.. Is that true, and are there any companies selling something like that in the usa?
It really depends a great deal on exactly what you need and where you are. If you can afford a real 10kw turbine and a 120ft tower then pretty much anywhere you can make it work. My area is pretty forgiving so I can see higher peaks at much lower heights. But if you're just powering a small shed or something then you don't need to go to such extremes. I always tell people to first evaluate exactly what you want the turbine to do for you, from there we can determine how feasible it is.
Thanks! Watched all your ista breeze videos so far.
Thanks for showing your setup in more detail in this one. Interesting to see how simple it is. No charge controller, battery charger...
How are the batteries doing without a battery regulator/charger?
Thanks again! 🤗🙏
Yeah the batteries are tanked! I have this set up as a total loss system, the inverters are going to draw on the batteries until they simply can't supply the current. If you want to actually be storing power you'll need to have better batteriesand a proper battery management system in place.
@@ToysforWatts Itsabreeze is just a rename on a chinese turbine. This is the one Im running and at 20mph I see over 2000watts. www.aliexpress.com/item/32850156917.html?spm=a2g0o.store_home.productList_235225187.pic_5
@@ToysforWatts supercapacitors?
Regarding the insta breeze you prefer using the 3 blade. you feel better than the 5 blade? also I noticed the i2000 watt is only 5ch larger diameter than the i1500. Not sure how they are getting more power out of it. if you bought again would you still get a 3 blade and not get the i2000?
I would buy iSta Breeze i1500 or i2000 in a heartbeat. the i2000 has the slightly larger blades and the generator is a little bigger. Three blades is almost always going to be better than five. Five blades will suffer a greater parasitic loss and will perform worse in high winds...the only time more blades is better is when you're dealing with low wind or you're turning a low rpm generator that requires a LOT of torque.
@@ToysforWatts you know your stuff!
Thanks for the info...
You saved me a fortune!
maybe I missed it, but which one is which and the ista-breeze, what model was it?
Looking at the thumbnail for the video, going from left to right, the rubbish one, the iSta Breeze i1500, the eBay 700, and the eBay 400.
Did you do the 1200w dc? How did it do?
Looking to do solar over wind set up i'm Guessing the ista breeze is the one that you would suggest.
Correct! I still believe the i1500 is absolutely the BEST bang for the buck on the market. If you live in an area appropriate for wind you cannot go wrong with the i1500.
hi, I'm thinking of buying a mill like yours, and making a system with batteries, I have an air to air pump that heats, do you think the mill can make enough power for it. I live in a place where it is very windy
I have wanted to upsize a pico turbine with coranada edges and more have designed a three blade tiny version. Have you heard of the pico turbine guys work? Thanks again
I have not heard of the Pico turbine but I'm reading about them now!
3:14 how to develop wind turbine forvarea with very low wind speed
hi. can the ista breeze i1500 keep on daily a 750w heating radiator? thanks
Hi sorry for the late reply! That's really a tough question! Assuming you have appropriate wind yes it'll run a 750w heater...but you have to have that wind! If you have it high enough and in enough wind it will probably not be a problem, but if you live somewhere with low or inconsistent winds it's not going to be able to keep up with the heater.
No charge controller I wonder how that works out
From a purely "results" point of view it worked pretty well, but it was VERY hard on my batteries. I now use a voltage switch to turn the inverters on and off to take some of the stress off my batteries, but it can still be pretty hard on them from time to time.
Nice video. How do you think the i1500 24 volt unit would do on a low wind area and a 12 volt system. I know I would have to lock it down if I got any real wind.
Very good informqtion thanks
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Thanks!! great work:)
Would have made a large difference if you just mentioned models and approx price, but I guess I can find it if I look around.
Sorry it's an older video when my followers had literally watched my entire progress to that point and already knew what was what lol. I try not to mention prices much because they change pretty dramatically over time. Looking at the thumbnail of the video from left to right is the eBay 500w turbine (poor), the iSta Breeze i1500 (excellent), the eBay 700w turbine (okay), the eBay 400w turbine (excellent but no longer available). If you look at my playlists you'll find a playlist dedicated to each turbine.
As you look at your roof from the first shot in the video outside... left to right... which turbine is what...??
Sorry for taking so long to reply! I've let a lot of my stuff here slip a bit over the summer while trying to address other parts of life and I'm sorry it left such a simple quest unanswered for so long! In the thumbnail going from left to right is the cheap eBay 500w turbine, the iSta Breeze i1500 (high recommended), the eBay 700w turbine (not easy to find these days), and the eBay 400w turbine (great turbine but no longer available).
@@ToysforWatts no worries!! Thanks for replying !!
How does it do in the rain and winter snow?
I have not had any weather related issues with any of my turbines.
@@ToysforWatts good to know
I would like to know what all those numbers mean.
Thank you for your videos, i learned a lot from them, but i have a concern regarding thunderstorms. Did ever happened to you to have a turbine striked by a lightning?
Depends on the height and what is surrounding it. If the Wind Turbine was in a field with nothing else around it then it I might get struct by lighting. If you have it near something that is taller than the Turbine you should be fine. Remember lighting is going to go for the tallest object.
Would it be possible to talk to you for a few minutes. I’m ready to do this set up. Just dug my hole for the pole. 40’ power pole that I’ll be putting my wind generator on. I just need some questions answered. Gauge of wire. Your metering? Noise of the windmill..... I need about twenty minutes I bet
Any questions you got you can send them to toysforwatts@gmail.com! I'll be happy to help!
so what models were the good ones? Thanks!
I've had REALLY good luck with iSta Breeze's larger turbines. The i700 and bigger models. Chinese turbines are a bit hit and miss. The larger one I have mounted by the door of my shop in this video is pretty good, the smaller one on the side of my shop was awesome but hard to come by. Most of the "tail up" smaller turbines you see on eBay and Amazon are rubbish.
which one is the best for the money if you consider all wind conditions?
The iSta Breeze i1500 is EASILY the best bang for the buck you can get for an off the shelf turbine. It's outpaced every other turbine in watts per dollar by a large margin and it's held up really well despite me being very abusive with it. My turbines are toys to test until they break but if I HAD to buy a turbine to rely on it would be an i1500 or i2000.
@@ToysforWatts thanks!
@@ToysforWatts Thanks! BTW you mentioned that you build them, and I was thinking about trying to 3d print one. Do you know where I could get a good motor like the one in the ista breeze model to build my own? If I can 3d print them and get the motor cheap I can make like 5 of these things cheap, that's my goal :)
Nice video, where is your new 400 watt, not with your team
I'm going to swap the new 400 out for the crummy 500 this week if I can get a calm day to do it.
Hi there,
I want your advice, now I'm using my disappointed wind turbine in conjunction with charge controller which came with my turbine.
I'm planning to replace it with 3 phase rectifier, but I will add DC booster to maintain the voltage constant, then connect them to solar mppt charge controller.
Will this increase the output a little.
What ista breeze model is it?
Sorry for the late reply! It is an i1500.
nice
Out of all those what do your recommend for a solution where we have pretty constant breeze above 10 mpr - thanks
I always recommend the iSta Breeze i1500 and i2000 turbines. They're solid dependable and still about the best watt/dollar ratios you can get on the market.
Nice video, which charge controllers are you using with your wind setup?
I'm not charging batteries, per say, so I don't use a charge controller. I have them hooked up to generic grid tie inverters. The batteries that are shown are just there to help keep the voltage under control so that the inverters can track the turbines. Kind of like a buffer or a pseudo voltage regulator.
If you're looking for suggestions for charge controllers I HIGHLY recommend the Midnight 150 and a good bridge rectifier.
@@ToysforWatts
Ok, thanks
@@ToysforWatts So are you averaging the DC volts by parallelising the bridge rectifiers? Love the setup. Also what brand of inverter are you using?
Thanks for the vid, great work. Much app.
1:22 "This top one is the 700W ebay turbine."
Meanwhile the display shows ~100W.
How to reconcile that?
The wind at the time of this video was blowing around 13mph with very brief gusts. That turbine would only make 700-ish watts at just over 25mph. That's one of the catches to a wind turbine...in order for them to hit rated performance they have to be in rated wind.
a 500watt is making only 20 watts in 15mph winds ? that doesnt sound good
yeah that turbine was awful lol
Like the i-1500W 24V/48V Wind Generator Turbine iSTA-BREEZE- HIGH PERFORMANCE-
Where to buy the ista breeze
eBay or Amazon if those options are available to you, or directly from their website: www.altinelenerji.net/
@@ToysforWatts please some links Amazon and eBay 48v 500 to 1000w thanks in advance thanks 🙏🙏🙏👍
What kind of data displays are those?
These are the meters I'm using in this video, but I do not use them anymore. They're unreliable and do not record total output...once you hit 1kwh they reset.
www.ebay.com/itm/222129924444
@@ToysforWatts Thank you sir. Appreciate your response. I currently am setting up a cheap ebay turbine. After watching some of the videos on here including yours im feeling like i wasted money but ill give it a shot and see what it puts out. Starting to save for my ista now. Thanks again.
What does this power allow you to do?
For me it doesn't do much. My system is set up to test maximum output over time and it dumps all the power I create through batteries or cheap inefficient grid tie inverters. Most of the time when someone is investing in a turbine they're doing it to run a particular appliance or something and that doesn't always require the turbine to be running at its maximum capacity all the time. With what I have on hand I could potentially power my shop, but that's not my goal.
Hello. I've got a farm in southern MN. A lot of the farmers around here have solar but I'm interested in wind supplemental power. Is there a way to hook up wind turbine to grid and sell the power to the power company, to reduce my bills? Thanks
Sure is... you slowly save and buy solar and wind power, storage, etc... then you get to save a bunch later when you get to pull the mains breaker off and never worry about power again.
Putting power OUT helps the big grid operators.... I'm not much for supporting them.
Brother, The one that isn't performing is that the 3 bladed one? If so why don't you change the blades to a 5 blade! Best Regards!
It's not performing because the stator is poorly made and the magnets are weak. To make any reasonable power it would need to run at very high RPM and adding more blades would just make it even slower.
Does it performs well at night ?
So long as the wind's blowing!
@@ToysforWatts baked beans is best for normal wind Lol
3:20 "This is the iSTA Breeze."
3:35 "Usually around 500W."
Nice!!!! Which of the wind turbines is this one?
The black one. There are links in his description to it on eBay. $630 + shipping as of the writing of this comment.
Have you electric auto?
So in reality unless you live in a wind rich area you are probably way better off with solar.
A wind turbine is always suitable...if you can get it high enough in the air. I'm limited to 40ft, they still work for me because I DO live in a very windy area. Anywhere you can make a solar panel work you can also make a wind turbine work and wind turbines are always going to be cheaper per watt. The trade off is that you might need a very large turbine very high up in the air, or you might need a huge plot of your land to accommodate a solar array. There's pros and cons to everything...personally, I feel the best option is to have both.
How many watts on the ista breeze?
The iSta Breeze is an i1500. It has peaked at over 2000 watts but it was in VERY high wind. It's only of the few I've reviewed that actually hits its rating. It actually hits somewhere between 1500 and 1600 watts in a 25mph wind.
@@ToysforWatts Appreciate all the quality information you're giving out on this platform, what would you estimate your Wattage output to be in 15mph winds for the i1500?
@@ToysforWatts An hour?
Is the ista breeze noisy
Well "noisy" is a bit relative. It's by far one of the quietest turbines I've played with...if not THE quietest, but you can certainly hear it if you're under it. There's not harsh chop or singing like most of the Chinese turbines I've dealt with. It's not considerably louder than my Chinese 400 turbine, which you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/-PzCqV-SyMk/v-deo.html
It's a bit more difficult to get up to the i1500 for a similar video :D
Toys for Watts. Awesome. Thank you. I want one. I have a 400 watt vawt that peaks out at 1.5 amps in 20 mph winds lol. I want a real one to go with my 700 watts of solar
No MPPT
No one makes an MPPT that actually works with wind turbines.
Shouldn't you put the power readers in parallel not series to reduce loss?
Have you thought of a $20 arduino to data log all data?
Can you bench test a windzilla
Get them to send me one and I'd be happy to do it! :D I'd even put a rotor on the thing and toss it up on a pole!
3:14
solar panels produce more power for less money, even while they only produce by daylight. Wind contains too little energy, I think a turbine under water receives more "power" from the outside world.