Imagine. The school system that can't achieve basic literacy, socially acceptable behavior, or basic, human-grade ethics, isn't producing top level engineers. We aren't producing top-level ANYTHING, and if we want to say Americans are the best, we have to swallow our pride and FIX OUR BROKEN EDUCATION SYSTEM. #endgovernmentschoolsnow
Wow, that was a very good video that really lays the problem to bare. More people need to hear your message about what you see as a path forward. I am indeed sharing this video.
Thank you for this information. There are so many facets to issues these days and you really help me to look at each one, each part of a whole. Thanks!
I worked for several large corporations that slowly in decades replaced at least half their IT departments with H1-B's. I worked along side of many mostly from India. Most were very difficult to communicate with. One really big issue is they would not say negative feedback when discussing specs. They would move their head from side to side which was confusing because it meant I understand but then work would not be done per what I considered what was agreed upon. Very little feed back or ideas were shared by them. I only witnessed one person that had common sense and exchange of ideas. Every step of each direction had to be given as they only followed orders. I believe this is part of their culture. No innovation ever happened from them. They didn't mingle with others and spoke in their own language in their Indian group at work. Each one would go back home and get married after about a year. After a couple of years they would go back to India and we would get a new replacement. It was constant re-training and loss of knowledge. It takes years to understand IT systems. When you only work on a small part of a large complex system you never see the big picture. This business model is not sustainable in the long term. I believe management doesn't understand how much waste there is by constant replacement of team members, cheap labor is just only the bottom line. Sometimes it take more effort to have some of them work on things because of the communication issues and their lack of knowledge. I also don't think management has a clue as to how difficult it is to work with this situation. Having 1/2 of your IT be temps is sketchy.
Intention accomplished. The great X calmer. Watch. Hear. Follow. Kaizen. See great value for a position in govt. administration for this man. Education.
Thank you for a very thought and discussion inspiring video. I appreciate how you narrate and leave the doors open for others to insert their own interpretations and opinions. Immigration is a very complex matter and I don't think there is only one correct answer to everything. Healthy, peaceful and educated debat is strongly needed.
Excellent analysis again. Thank you for breaking down the issues and carefully presenting both sides of the issues and backing up your info with facts.
As usual, great video man. You helped me to understand the other side's perspective better. More people need to hear your message, especially here on UA-cam.
Well considered as always, and right on all fronts. As an American who immigrated on a skilled worker visa elsewhere, we need to overhaul legal immigration. America needs to import smarter workers while we correct the ridiculously poor education system we have. Simultaneously you are correct, cultural allegiance to the best of our country is appropriate and we cannot just import anyone because we feel sorry for them. Mini countries fall apart because their own people do not share values aligned with ours. It is horrible, but we cannot allow America to fail either.
You gave a very fair and comprehensive take of the situation - thank you for that. I do find myself disagreeing with your solution. Importing even more high end talent while trying to cultivate it at home is simply a huge risk in my eyes that will exacerabate the issue. Imagine you are a US person planning your career or education path; who in their right mind would commit to STEM in a scenario where the government wants to double H-1Bs (or just significantly increase the importing of high end talent)? We're not just increasing the pool of this US person's competition, we're increasing the pool with THE BEST talent. How advisable is it to choose the career field that you know for a fact will be stacked artifically against you with the best competition from around the world? It creates a negative feedback loop that starves the US talent and never actually allows it to flourish on its own. That's essentially doubling down on the current system. (Edit: I think you summed this up yourself perfectly @ 14:09 - we need to make hard work attractive. Not make hard work a risk) In my view, it is imperative that we structure this so that US Citizens who are investing in STEM have opportunity and do not have to face artificial competition. This would actually encourage more US Citizens to invest in STEM. It will hurt more in the short term, but will fix the long term issues more rapidly. I think arguments claiming that we HAVE to increase legal immigrants in the mean time are only serving corporations - not typical Americans. Corporations will lose profits, yes. So be it. Better than even another single US citizen being displaced in their own country. Corporations have known about this issue in the USA for decades and they could have mitigated it. They can pay for the mistake - certainly they can afford it. I just cannot support any argument implying the average American should bear the cost for this when this country is on the cusp of producing trillionaires. It is just absolutely ridiculous to my mind. Thank you for the video, this is very important discussion.
"In my view, it is imperative that we structure this so that US Citizens who are investing in STEM have opportunity and do not have to face artificial competition" Ridiculous: _"I think that it is best if we do not face strong competition. Because, you know, it's hard and stuff."_ That is not how you create strong candidates. That is how you fail a nation with weak ones.
@@torukmakto2367 No, that's how you produce a race to the bottom exactly as Canada has done. No thanks - we've already seen how that plays out. Funny how it's only Americans who are expected to compete against foreigners as well as their own countrymen in tech. People defending that are just cucks for corporations and billionaire class individuals. They want a race to the bottom because they get a small sliver at the expense of the average American. No thanks, my country doesn't exist to give a leg up for foreigners at the expense of my fellow countrymen. If these foreigners are so awesome, then they can go build their own United States.
Another thing Americans don’t really understand is how much we don’t produce the things we use. For instance, 90% of the computer chips in every one of the devices that we used today are produced in Taiwan. Its’s not because it’s cheap, but because we literally don’t have the capability of manufacturing these chips ourselves, nor does the rest of the world. That’s why China wants Taiwan so badly, and that’s why the West needs to keep it free. It’s also why we should be doing something to supplement these. The chip industry has been screaming at the top of their lungs for over a decade to solve this problem, but no one‘s done anything about it yet. It’s not going to be done anytime soon and it’s a national defense crisis if you think about it. All those missiles that we use Literally our cars, our phones, our computers. The entire economy runs on chips produced in Taiwan. Get it? Not only do we need immigration. We need manufacturing techniques. And quickly this is a national defense issue.
FALSE. One of the two Google bros was from Russia, the other was born in the USA. All three Intel founders were born in the US, 2 in San Francisco. Both Tesla founders were born in California.
You’re correct that I spoke falsely about Intel and Tesla. I should have said - founded or built, as Andy Grove and Elon were the most influential leaders of those companies and both immigrants
@@kaizenasiedu No, you should have said all three companies were founded by Americans, though one of two partners in one was from Russia. Intel later had a foreign born CEO who helped grow the company. Tesla was purchased by probably illegal immigrant Musk, who provided significant funding to grow the company.
@@kaizenasiedu We should further note that BOTH Brin and Grove came to the US as refugees from the Soviet Union. They were not immigrants, they did not come here for an education and or to work. They fled political/racial persecution at home. None of these examples remotely make your point. Except slightly Tesla, and that falls apart as Elon has stated in interviews that he lied on his visa application to the USA.
Great explanation. Thank you @kaizen....... And everyone needs to be civil & stop personal insults. We need objective discussion.
Imagine. The school system that can't achieve basic literacy, socially acceptable behavior, or basic, human-grade ethics, isn't producing top level engineers.
We aren't producing top-level ANYTHING, and if we want to say Americans are the best, we have to swallow our pride and FIX OUR BROKEN EDUCATION SYSTEM.
#endgovernmentschoolsnow
Wow, that was a very good video that really lays the problem to bare. More people need to hear your message about what you see as a path forward. I am indeed sharing this video.
I appreciate that 🙏🏿
Awesome breakdown of the issues. Thanks so much, Kaizen.
My pleasure!
Thank you for this information. There are so many facets to issues these days and you really help me to look at each one, each part of a whole. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
The education system here is one of the problems. it is in fact an uninspiring system that stifles talent.
I worked for several large corporations that slowly in decades replaced at least half their IT departments with H1-B's. I worked along side of many mostly from India. Most were very difficult to communicate with. One really big issue is they would not say negative feedback when discussing specs. They would move their head from side to side which was confusing because it meant I understand but then work would not be done per what I considered what was agreed upon. Very little feed back or ideas were shared by them. I only witnessed one person that had common sense and exchange of ideas. Every step of each direction had to be given as they only followed orders. I believe this is part of their culture. No innovation ever happened from them. They didn't mingle with others and spoke in their own language in their Indian group at work. Each one would go back home and get married after about a year. After a couple of years they would go back to India and we would get a new replacement. It was constant re-training and loss of knowledge. It takes years to understand IT systems. When you only work on a small part of a large complex system you never see the big picture. This business model is not sustainable in the long term. I believe management doesn't understand how much waste there is by constant replacement of team members, cheap labor is just only the bottom line. Sometimes it take more effort to have some of them work on things because of the communication issues and their lack of knowledge. I also don't think management has a clue as to how difficult it is to work with this situation. Having 1/2 of your IT be temps is sketchy.
Yes that’s h1-b abuse for cheaper workers and needs to be fixed
Well said .. thank you for your clear & concise observations .. keep the information coming!
Appreciate the breakdown of a complex debate.
That was one of the most brilliant discussions I have ever heard. Thank you very much.
You're very welcome
Intention accomplished. The great X calmer. Watch. Hear. Follow. Kaizen.
See great value for a position in govt. administration for this man. Education.
Great video.
Thanks!
Thank you for a very thought and discussion inspiring video. I appreciate how you narrate and leave the doors open for others to insert their own interpretations and opinions. Immigration is a very complex matter and I don't think there is only one correct answer to everything. Healthy, peaceful and educated debat is strongly needed.
Excellent analysis again. Thank you for breaking down the issues and carefully presenting both sides of the issues and backing up your info with facts.
Glad you enjoyed it!
As usual, great video man. You helped me to understand the other side's perspective better. More people need to hear your message, especially here on UA-cam.
Such a profound and intellectually satisfying discussion.
He's just an Elon Musk eunuch
Thoughtful discussion
Well considered as always, and right on all fronts. As an American who immigrated on a skilled worker visa elsewhere, we need to overhaul legal immigration. America needs to import smarter workers while we correct the ridiculously poor education system we have. Simultaneously you are correct, cultural allegiance to the best of our country is appropriate and we cannot just import anyone because we feel sorry for them. Mini countries fall apart because their own people do not share values aligned with ours. It is horrible, but we cannot allow America to fail either.
I am computer science engineer I want to come in America but I am not coming because American liberal
You gave a very fair and comprehensive take of the situation - thank you for that. I do find myself disagreeing with your solution. Importing even more high end talent while trying to cultivate it at home is simply a huge risk in my eyes that will exacerabate the issue.
Imagine you are a US person planning your career or education path; who in their right mind would commit to STEM in a scenario where the government wants to double H-1Bs (or just significantly increase the importing of high end talent)? We're not just increasing the pool of this US person's competition, we're increasing the pool with THE BEST talent. How advisable is it to choose the career field that you know for a fact will be stacked artifically against you with the best competition from around the world? It creates a negative feedback loop that starves the US talent and never actually allows it to flourish on its own. That's essentially doubling down on the current system. (Edit: I think you summed this up yourself perfectly @ 14:09 - we need to make hard work attractive. Not make hard work a risk)
In my view, it is imperative that we structure this so that US Citizens who are investing in STEM have opportunity and do not have to face artificial competition. This would actually encourage more US Citizens to invest in STEM. It will hurt more in the short term, but will fix the long term issues more rapidly.
I think arguments claiming that we HAVE to increase legal immigrants in the mean time are only serving corporations - not typical Americans. Corporations will lose profits, yes. So be it. Better than even another single US citizen being displaced in their own country.
Corporations have known about this issue in the USA for decades and they could have mitigated it. They can pay for the mistake - certainly they can afford it. I just cannot support any argument implying the average American should bear the cost for this when this country is on the cusp of producing trillionaires. It is just absolutely ridiculous to my mind.
Thank you for the video, this is very important discussion.
"In my view, it is imperative that we structure this so that US Citizens who are investing in STEM have opportunity and do not have to face artificial competition"
Ridiculous: _"I think that it is best if we do not face strong competition. Because, you know, it's hard and stuff."_
That is not how you create strong candidates. That is how you fail a nation with weak ones.
@@torukmakto2367 No, that's how you produce a race to the bottom exactly as Canada has done.
No thanks - we've already seen how that plays out. Funny how it's only Americans who are expected to compete against foreigners as well as their own countrymen in tech.
People defending that are just cucks for corporations and billionaire class individuals. They want a race to the bottom because they get a small sliver at the expense of the average American. No thanks, my country doesn't exist to give a leg up for foreigners at the expense of my fellow countrymen. If these foreigners are so awesome, then they can go build their own United States.
Good thoughts - what do you propose we do to address the immediate elite talent shortage in AI and newer fields?
@@kaizenasiedu He doesn't have a solution. Just fill the jobs with underqualified "Americans" and things will magically work out.
Another thing Americans don’t really understand is how much we don’t produce the things we use. For instance, 90% of the computer chips in every one of the devices that we used today are produced in Taiwan. Its’s not because it’s cheap, but because we literally don’t have the capability of manufacturing these chips ourselves, nor does the rest of the world. That’s why China wants Taiwan so badly, and that’s why the West needs to keep it free. It’s also why we should be doing something to supplement these. The chip industry has been screaming at the top of their lungs for over a decade to solve this problem, but no one‘s done anything about it yet. It’s not going to be done anytime soon and it’s a national defense crisis if you think about it. All those missiles that we use Literally our cars, our phones, our computers. The entire economy runs on chips produced in Taiwan. Get it? Not only do we need immigration. We need manufacturing techniques. And quickly this is a national defense issue.
Absolutely, domestic talent and domestic manufacturing bring domestic security
❤excellent
FALSE. One of the two Google bros was from Russia, the other was born in the USA. All three Intel founders were born in the US, 2 in San Francisco. Both Tesla founders were born in California.
You’re correct that I spoke falsely about Intel and Tesla. I should have said - founded or built, as Andy Grove and Elon were the most influential leaders of those companies and both immigrants
@@kaizenasiedu No, you should have said all three companies were founded by Americans, though one of two partners in one was from Russia.
Intel later had a foreign born CEO who helped grow the company. Tesla was purchased by probably illegal immigrant Musk, who provided significant funding to grow the company.
@@kaizenasiedu Exactly, the headline does not support the point being made.
@@kaizenasiedu We should further note that BOTH Brin and Grove came to the US as refugees from the Soviet Union. They were not immigrants, they did not come here for an education and or to work. They fled political/racial persecution at home.
None of these examples remotely make your point. Except slightly Tesla, and that falls apart as Elon has stated in interviews that he lied on his visa application to the USA.
@@FreeAnimalDoctor Can you provide links to these interviews where Musk says this?