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  • Zain (Marth) vs C9 Mang0 (Falco) - Melee Singles Top 8: Winners Finals - Genesis 7
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 167

  • @ThePi314Man
    @ThePi314Man 4 роки тому +275

    "I'm never losing to Zain again!"
    Now that's the Mango

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 3 роки тому +3

      Oh boy did he lose to Zain again

    • @roy8749
      @roy8749 2 роки тому

      @@bladefox5082 ...

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 2 роки тому +1

      @@roy8749 that was before ss11 lol

  • @sageosaka
    @sageosaka 4 роки тому +38

    The very end of that last stock was so beautiful. Zain went full agro mode and shut down every recovery option falco had. Nothing falco did could have saved him. If you watch after those 3 jabs... He even runs off the stage to cover any further potential recovery. Text book option coverage.

  • @justfetus
    @justfetus 4 роки тому +59

    this is SUCH a great match. Would've loved to see a rematch in the grand finals.

  • @yusuke2468
    @yusuke2468 4 роки тому +37

    7:24 that mangle though

  • @Greyhound33
    @Greyhound33 4 роки тому +99

    Zain looks so intimidating to play. Maybe most intimidating player today

    • @haydonc5256
      @haydonc5256 4 роки тому +30

      Acorn 15 I swear everytime someone beats Zain, they pop off super hard. Zain really makes them work for it.

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 роки тому +1

      From Maui lmao fr

    • @lukerose4166
      @lukerose4166 4 роки тому +9

      From Maui He’s like a Marth playing Armada

    • @blakeswanson1322
      @blakeswanson1322 3 роки тому +1

      @@Greyhound33 no lol how did mango take any of armadas style

  • @SYao99
    @SYao99 4 роки тому +32

    There were more powershields in this game than I've ever seen in my life

    • @JoshT4life
      @JoshT4life 4 роки тому +1

      You should see him vs samus

  • @john-erichernandez432
    @john-erichernandez432 4 роки тому +133

    Zain with the mogul moves sweatshirt

    • @harb1ng3r82
      @harb1ng3r82 4 роки тому +39

      It’s his first time ever wearing it too, otherwise the logo would have come off by now.

    • @john-erichernandez432
      @john-erichernandez432 4 роки тому +2

      @@harb1ng3r82 lmfao

  • @neilw5541
    @neilw5541 4 роки тому +172

    Somebody sponsor this Zain guy please

    • @jordanadams7129
      @jordanadams7129 4 роки тому +13

      Neil W “This zain guy” He is top 10 in the world put some respec on his name

    • @raheshramesh413
      @raheshramesh413 4 роки тому +4

      Jordan Adams looking more like top 5 recently

    • @michaelcorser4350
      @michaelcorser4350 4 роки тому +5

      @@raheshramesh413 Looking more top 3 to me.

    • @pretzel_aksmash353
      @pretzel_aksmash353 4 роки тому +34

      He's very good with blue haired sword guy

    • @Wouldbutnaw
      @Wouldbutnaw 4 роки тому +8

      Man if only he was sponsored by a 5'2 man who is a round 1 pools commentator

  • @KenShinta174
    @KenShinta174 4 роки тому +12

    Come on no one is going to talk about this 16:45 ? That’s the craziest and most amazing play I have ever seen

  • @PKWinning07
    @PKWinning07 4 роки тому +23

    I feel like the set going game 5 actually made it a bigger win for Zain, just to show that he can clutch these out

  • @CheapShotFail
    @CheapShotFail 4 роки тому +67

    As hype as Mango - Leffen is, I think Mango - Zain is starting to be my favorite matchup in the game. These sets here and at Big House were insane.

    • @ThatWolfArrow
      @ThatWolfArrow 4 роки тому +10

      I agree. Personally, I'd also throw in Zain/Hbox. Seeing two patient players with spacing oriented characters is super nerve racking but also super fascinating.

    • @CheapShotFail
      @CheapShotFail 4 роки тому +3

      @@ThatWolfArrow Agree completely. Ever since Zain has started taking sets off of Hbox he's refined the matchup a ton for Marth and it's amazing to watch.

    • @Dee_micl
      @Dee_micl 2 роки тому +1

      Rewatching this 2 years later. I agree

  • @TheTechnopider
    @TheTechnopider 4 роки тому +6

    16:13 that's the most melee shit I've ever seen

  • @matthewaitkenfilms9477
    @matthewaitkenfilms9477 4 роки тому +30

    This set is insane, theyre both incredible!

  • @shaaktee1941
    @shaaktee1941 3 роки тому +3

    4:08 mang0 is secretly drinking beer.

  • @speedyhoneybear
    @speedyhoneybear 4 роки тому +9

    WOW! Sets like these make me wish i was fast enough to pick up melee again. Zain is so fun to watch!

  • @falco830
    @falco830 4 роки тому +47

    Remember PC Chris vs Ken...
    Now it’s history repeating itself at a much higher level...

  • @numbby1140
    @numbby1140 4 роки тому +7

    honestly, this is one of the best commentated sets i've ever watched in melee.
    so much info on the matchup

    • @ADavidJohnson
      @ADavidJohnson 3 роки тому +3

      They’re so good at informing you about the matchup, the narrative around it, and the emotional flow of the match
      It’s really incredible how well Scar and Toph commentate, especially together

  • @chriscastle1629
    @chriscastle1629 4 роки тому +4

    "He might be playing what I'm saying!" one of my favorite scar lines

  • @MarquezVincent
    @MarquezVincent 4 роки тому +20

    4:25 This guys it literally is only saying "Yeah" xD

  • @MonjeFuti
    @MonjeFuti 4 роки тому +86

    That was inZain

  • @TrogDH
    @TrogDH Рік тому +2

    16:11 is one of the coolest, flashiest interactions in melee history

  • @TheObicobiHD
    @TheObicobiHD 4 роки тому +3

    What an *AMAZING* set, woow that last match was insane!! Zain!! Zain's Marth living after covering all of Falco's options 😭💖 GGs Mang0!! He played so very well 👏

  • @Gr8saiyaman88
    @Gr8saiyaman88 4 роки тому +3

    6:20 “I love the Lord”
    - Bobby Scar

  • @AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls
    @AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls 4 роки тому +10

    3:53 - 4:09 LOL

    • @ejcandrin
      @ejcandrin 4 роки тому

      Falco isn't top tier though

  • @andrewkibler9384
    @andrewkibler9384 4 роки тому +6

    Mango threw it away with the side bs at the end

    • @100mangroper
      @100mangroper 4 роки тому +9

      there is never a right recovery, he lost neutral to get put in those situations, nothing mattered after that point

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 роки тому +1

      @@100mangroper yep. Zain covered literally every option falco had. Nothing mango could have done. If you watch after those jabs, Zain even runs off the stage to cover a potential up-b from mango. Literally perfect option coverage from Zain.

  • @sadied0g
    @sadied0g 4 роки тому +3

    Scar says Zain is new to genesis top 8. He really never got top 8 before, and wins it the first time he does? DAMN

  • @linebeck1381
    @linebeck1381 2 роки тому

    I can’t help but laugh every time I see Zain in the Mogul Moves hoodie.

  • @maxgurman633
    @maxgurman633 4 роки тому +3

    "Is using forward B a new idea?"
    No, thats bobby big ballz

    • @NiteCyper
      @NiteCyper 4 роки тому +1

      Using it to escape to/edge cancel on top platform, more specifically. Mango uses it several times in this run at Genesis. No, it's not new but it is niche. I personally associate it most with Axe, but that might be more because of Pikachu tech: Quick Attack from ground level to edge cancel on top platform.

  • @Oscar797
    @Oscar797 3 роки тому

    Falco vs Marth is an awesome matchup. Between these 2 it’s even better. What a sick set

  • @OrlotPiuri
    @OrlotPiuri 4 роки тому +2

    Mango vs Zain is the new mango vs leffen

  • @Skelen
    @Skelen 4 роки тому +1

    2020 this game still rockin!! Love it and the people!! Let's keep the love flowin with some trash talk 😁👍

  • @oldtownscouts3712
    @oldtownscouts3712 4 роки тому +1

    It's funny after such an intense, technical, god level set it ends with a simple jab. A button for the win.

  • @malkavian6275
    @malkavian6275 3 роки тому

    The post-game stats are SO SICK

  • @F0rger513
    @F0rger513 4 роки тому +7

    Boy the Blur hate is real to extend this long in Melee lol

    • @areebmasoodi8932
      @areebmasoodi8932 4 роки тому

      Haha facts. Why the hate on him I don't understand

  • @hungryluma27
    @hungryluma27 2 роки тому

    THAT OFF STAGE KILL ZAIN GOT WITH THE LOW EDGE GUARD WAS THE SICKEST THING IVE EVER SEEN

  • @Rookums
    @Rookums 4 роки тому

    When mango hit the phantom back air in game three it was all over.

  • @benji417
    @benji417 4 роки тому +12

    Mang0 wishes he had Zain's Mogul Moves.

  • @quesote20
    @quesote20 4 роки тому

    This is the pinnacle of Marth - Falco

  • @giantclaw138
    @giantclaw138 4 роки тому +4

    This is by far my favorite Jojo episode

  • @Goreblender
    @Goreblender 4 роки тому +1

    it's mandatory that every time someone hits with multiple hit of falco fair, the commentators talk about how much damage it does

  • @haydonc5256
    @haydonc5256 4 роки тому +4

    All of the Mango fans in the comments making excuses for Mango losing, it’s really annoying. Zain won fair and square, Zain was the better player this set.

  • @spaarkk6502
    @spaarkk6502 3 роки тому

    this was the real grand finals

  • @0Enigmatic0
    @0Enigmatic0 3 роки тому

    I fucking knew Zain would be best in the world. The one summit a while ago where he was getting some crazy pseudo chain grab di mixups I knew he would lab his way to number 1. Now it's how long his reign will be

  • @chuckwellington3307
    @chuckwellington3307 4 роки тому +3

    Melee is so much more exciting than Ultimate tbh.
    I can't stand Fox for the love of it, but I'd lie if I said the games aren't super exciting to watch at least.
    People can actually go off-stage and secure kills in this game, something they stopped giving a shit about after Brawl.

    • @oldtownscouts3712
      @oldtownscouts3712 4 роки тому

      There's plenty of offstage kills in Ultimate on a ton of the cast the problem is a lot of the characters that are good in that game are so difficult and risky to go off stage against that it's not worth it when ledge trapping is safer and often more rewarding. I agree melee is more exciting to watch overall, but LAN mkLeo is incredibly entertaining in Ultimate IMO, along with a dozen or so other top players. Camp-ridden defensive gameplay has dominated the past three smash games for sure however.

  • @Snowballsage
    @Snowballsage 4 роки тому +1

    5:42 I don’t play melee but even I could tell that he was dead once he double jumped

  • @Noahtheorigianl
    @Noahtheorigianl 4 роки тому

    production value so highhhh

  • @chanegun
    @chanegun 2 роки тому

    Praying this is grand finals at G8

  • @anomonomity
    @anomonomity 4 роки тому

    for those wondering, i’m pretty sure if you get hit out of up B without using your jump you lose your double jump

  • @RMahna94
    @RMahna94 4 роки тому

    Zain capitalizing on Mang0 being Mang0. Good ass set.

  • @hmcglouf
    @hmcglouf 4 роки тому +3

    That was such a great set

  • @JoshT4life
    @JoshT4life 4 роки тому +2

    Zain the new god

  • @NintenJoe
    @NintenJoe 3 роки тому

    This was over a year ago :(

  • @eddiestilll
    @eddiestilll 4 роки тому

    marth vs falco never gets old!! :)

  • @matthewaitkenfilms9477
    @matthewaitkenfilms9477 4 роки тому +7

    And zain gies on to win it all, zain is insane

  • @Mallwan
    @Mallwan 3 роки тому

    one of the bests sets for sure

  • @aidenhastings6341
    @aidenhastings6341 4 роки тому +1

    They didn’t know up B eats your double jump?

  • @thor10001
    @thor10001 4 роки тому +1

    I miss melee.

  • @noodlespwn42
    @noodlespwn42 4 роки тому +2

    @16:55 why did he do that

    • @gonzo_o_o
      @gonzo_o_o 4 роки тому

      Yeah that was the set, I think. In that position, Mango should have hunkered down in the pit and absolutely refused to get routed from there. Instead he put himself in a spot to get launched by Zain and ultimately KO'd

  • @noodletribunal9793
    @noodletribunal9793 4 роки тому

    10:35 "i think 'they' was him" XD

  • @madridaburto
    @madridaburto 4 роки тому

    Fucking amazing!!!!!lets goooooo

  • @falco830
    @falco830 4 роки тому +1

    Choo Choo ALL ABORD THE ZAIN TRAIN!!!

  • @Mr.Monky420
    @Mr.Monky420 4 роки тому +1

    You think Zain has the potential to be the next Ken or is this game too crowded with too many Gods that all keep winning tournaments decently evenly enough to where Zain could even consistently hold a reign?

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 роки тому

      Zain is really starting to come into his own as far as consistency goes. During his rise in '17 and '18 he had some really high peaks but definitely still struggled with consistency... And in '19 kinda seemed like he hit a wall or plateau as people started to figure him out... But at the end of 19 and starting here in 2020 he seems like he's starting to get a lock on being consistently great.

    • @chrisp2757
      @chrisp2757 4 роки тому +1

      It’s all about the Marth. He jabs so fast and covers so much real estate with the sword. Then turns on the power with a flick of the wrist.
      I think it’s incredible that Marth hasn’t been more widely used.

  • @eelllliiootttt
    @eelllliiootttt 4 роки тому +3

    7:34 what is a phantom

    • @DarkxNemesis
      @DarkxNemesis 4 роки тому

      EJ Maggs When the game doesnt register a hit connecting but still makes the sound effect and such. Like a phantom rest from a puff where it makes the loud “clank” but the player doesnt go anywhere and puff falls asleep giving the player a free punish

    • @saraskyline8331
      @saraskyline8331 4 роки тому

      It happens when you're a few frames off of a hit

    • @Delajoyason
      @Delajoyason 4 роки тому

      To be specific it’s when you’re a pixel off your hit, so it’s the in between of actually landing your hit and missing. That’s why Toph calls it bonus damage but there’s no knock back

  • @pogd740
    @pogd740 2 роки тому

    hoping for the rematch genesis 8

  • @shiv604
    @shiv604 4 роки тому +2

    People complaining about PS, yet no one says jack shit about FD lmao

  • @rpenguin12345
    @rpenguin12345 3 роки тому

    what shoes? were at home now and i think he's wearing socks!

  • @nathaniel5956
    @nathaniel5956 4 роки тому

    17:53

  • @178laaleros
    @178laaleros 4 роки тому +1

    And mango on his twitch stream said zain is never going to beat him alright buddy keep saying that

  • @foxy2348
    @foxy2348 4 роки тому +1

    FD BAN?

  • @bluepeacemaker
    @bluepeacemaker 4 роки тому

    It feels like Mango is the better player, however Zain's punish game is something else and can get a stock out of each punish, it seems. That must be scary to play against

  • @darkbatu
    @darkbatu 4 роки тому

    this is epic.

  • @67254215415413
    @67254215415413 4 роки тому

    16:26 and Scar acts like Alex' impression of him isn't spot on

  • @ForrestBreeze
    @ForrestBreeze 3 роки тому

    where was m2k in this tourney?

    • @NintenJoe
      @NintenJoe 3 роки тому

      M2k doesn't enter melee anymore, instead focusing on his book

  • @pudgeypig3521
    @pudgeypig3521 4 роки тому +2

    I SEE ZAIN REPPING THAT MOGUL MOVES. LUDWIG.GG FELLAS

  • @Greyhound33
    @Greyhound33 2 місяці тому

    The pee pee forward air

  • @kennyfernandez2866
    @kennyfernandez2866 4 роки тому

    How are the Falco lasers being returned by Marth's shielding?

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 роки тому +2

      It's a tech called power shielding. It basically turns your shield into a reflector if you can time it right.

    • @kennyfernandez2866
      @kennyfernandez2866 4 роки тому

      @@jjrambles683 Damn. Didn't know. With any projectile?

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 роки тому

      @@kennyfernandez2866 yep, you see it a lot against falcos cause he's one of the few top tiers, aside from peach, that can projectile camp.

    • @emperorlokire7648
      @emperorlokire7648 4 роки тому

      JJ Rambles I just wish this was in ultimate.

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 роки тому

      @@emperorlokire7648 honestly yeah, it would change the meta so drastically if projectile characters just couldn't spam because their weapons would just be reflected back at them and would make the game much faster paced

  • @jetstreamattackhirot
    @jetstreamattackhirot 4 роки тому

    17:45 What music?

  • @nathanlabrin2392
    @nathanlabrin2392 4 роки тому +2

    Why are they playing on those old TVs?

    • @yomommamonkey
      @yomommamonkey 4 роки тому +4

      Nathan Labrynth can’t tell if your joking lol. It reduces lag time.

    • @nathanlabrin2392
      @nathanlabrin2392 4 роки тому +1

      Eden Shorrocks Alr cool thank you

    • @ChrisTomatoPie
      @ChrisTomatoPie 4 роки тому

      @@yomommamonkey what lag are you talking about? im just curios, too. its a LAN event and dont modern monitors have less reaction time?

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 роки тому

      @@ChrisTomatoPie if played on a PC and emulator that was set up to actually run at higher response times.. then yes but this is a Nintendo sanctioned event and that wouldn't be allowed.

    • @negativesplits06
      @negativesplits06 3 роки тому

      @@sageosaka I’ve been playing Melee on a plasma TV, which does have a little bit of lag. Now it’s a bitch trying to get used to playing Melee on Dolphin since it doesn’t have that lag.

  • @cross25011990
    @cross25011990 4 роки тому

    it would be so AMAZING , if another stage would be come in neutral.. 5 are not a lot and battlefield / or pokemon stadium partly sucks

    • @noahbaden90
      @noahbaden90 4 роки тому +8

      Yeah, Nintendo should really patch in more stages. I'm starting to think they've stopped supporting Melee.

    • @chadchadwick3401
      @chadchadwick3401 4 роки тому

      Huh? Battlefield is like the best stage lol

  • @mdigregorio15
    @mdigregorio15 4 роки тому

    Mango land

  • @omfgacceptmyname
    @omfgacceptmyname 4 роки тому

    geniseae

  • @apaul7502
    @apaul7502 4 роки тому +1

    i wonder if people feel bad beating mango. mango is who most people want to win, so whoever beats him knows that theyre ruining a lot of peoples days

    • @Vomer0
      @Vomer0 4 роки тому

      Imagine traveling to events and having to pay for that as well as investing all your time into getting good at the game. I imagine it'd be easier than you'd think

  • @The_Secure_Juan
    @The_Secure_Juan 4 роки тому

    Commenting 101
    commentator 1: when Zain attacks ...... etc
    commentator 2: yeah
    commentator 1: and when Mango attacks this way you always see the......
    commentator 2: yeah
    commentator 1: shout out to our sponsor WATER! Stay hydrated kids!
    commentator 2: yeah

  • @KittSpiken
    @KittSpiken 4 роки тому +2

    What the hell is Scar wearing and how is it KILLING the game?

  • @il100374
    @il100374 4 роки тому +1

    played a lil sloppy and tooo aggressive at times. still a dope set

  • @KG66610
    @KG66610 4 роки тому +2

    Mango loses because of Stadium transformation, yikes...

    • @mamonsin
      @mamonsin 4 роки тому

      I mean Zain was all over him before the transformation happened

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 роки тому

      You can tell Zain was down to wait it out.... Mango is the one that rushed in and got punished for it.

  • @MasterNinjaXz
    @MasterNinjaXz 4 роки тому

    Zain is playing out if his mind, but Mango shouldve won. The Mr Smith's were getting scared bro, he was turning it on so fucking hard towards the end, but had a true Mango ending, choked off a reflected laser and missed waveshine.

  • @Michael-cg5qn
    @Michael-cg5qn 4 роки тому

    People still play this game? Golly they gotta move on cause there is literally a new smash bros game and all the characters don't play the same or the same characters get picked all the fucking time

  • @iaimen865
    @iaimen865 4 роки тому +8

    Nooo marth winning is always sad...

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 роки тому +1

      Spoilers

    • @tomcruise7481
      @tomcruise7481 4 роки тому +9

      As a Marth main
      Fuck you.

    • @bluepeacemaker
      @bluepeacemaker 4 роки тому +18

      No, dude. ICs winning is usually the saddest thing in Melee

    • @iaimen865
      @iaimen865 4 роки тому

      @@Greyhound33 yes but salt

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 роки тому

      I Aimen nah you salt. bic boi