What is Rokkatru?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- What exactly is Rökkatru? I will explain this spirituality from my own point of view.
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Did you guys watch the entire 40min?!? You beautifully insane desert roses! You are my new heroes!
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Arith Härger "Desert roses"? Not familiar with this concept/compliment.
Desert roses are very rare and thrive in an inhospitable place, so they are quite special :p
Arith Härger ah, okay. Not a common way of describing the concept over here.
watched it all and very much enjoyed it. id have to agree with Cartoon News, i prefer longer videos :)
Yes and carefully listen to ever word. I see what we where talking about a few weeks ago. And this did a lot to help open my eyes and change my outlook in how much christianity true changes your passive perception. This was great I would love much more.
I am 70yo and you have helped me recognize something that I have wrestled my entire life and never been able to put into words.
What? I’m curious to know if you’ll share.
@@mstreech I think its a lie...at least the age part
@@mstreech it's impossible for that poster to answer your question because these things are highly personal.
My only regret in watching this video, is that I can only give it one thumbs up, and not all it deserves.
Thank you ^^ your feedback is also greatly appreciated :D
As a Rökkatru for many many years now, I say this is a very good explanation of the practice. Well done.
You spoke the words I have believed for years. I am so glad I found you! I cannot wait to see what other videos you have!
Fantastic video. I am a former Satanist that found Rökkatru only a few years ago. It is a solitary journey as I don't fit in with most Asatru in my area. No matter! Thank you for posting this!
Very compelling and well thought out. As a Lokean myself I see a lot of pagans (and especially what I would call "fundamentalist" heathens) that try to paint that black/white, good/evil dichotomy on Loki, Jormungandr and other liminal beings, and I knew from my experience how far that thinking is from hitting the mark, but never had the words to explain. Ironically, as a former christian, I had the same blind spot towards members of the pagan community that identified themselves has Luciferian or Satanists - you've given me new insights into my own gods, as well as the twightlight gods of other frameworks. Thank you!
Yes Dualism is indeed a problem deeply rooted in our collective consciousness, and when we come from Dualistic religious backgrounds we have the tendency to bring that line of thought into pagan spiritualities and religions.
Luciferians and satanists part of pagan community?
Nocturne Red yea and no. I’m Luciferian, and Heathen, and many other things. Some Satanists and Luciferians also follow pagan paths, some don’t. Depends on the individual’s interpretation of various ideas and ideals.
@@jackjohnson2309 i heard about different "churches" of satanists and luciferians, but isnt they work with character from avraamic religion, so in my eyes its cant be together. Im myself not satanist nor heathen at that moment, just want to know more about alternatives
Nocturne Red again, that would depend greatly upon the individual. Most Luciferians don’t “worship” Lucifer, or even view the Christian model of Lucifer as “real”. Lucifer is used more as a symbol of enlightenment, and freedom, similar to Prometheus in Greek mythology. Lucifer is essentially symbolic of the pinnacle of what man can be, very closely tied to the ideas of gnosis and apotheosis, or enlightenment in general. Satan is a bit different. Many are “atheistic Satanists”, who similarly don’t actually believe in the literal entity of Satan, but rather as a symbol of adversarial might, human carnal nature, etc. and those philosophies are perfectly compatible with most pagan traditions.
There are, however, “theistic” Satanists and Luciferians who literally worship those figures in one way or another, and view them in more or less the same way as Christians would, as literal deities who represent “The Devil” of Christian mythology. These folks aren’t likely going to be pagan in addition to Satanist or Luciferian.
I had never heard of this path until you recently told me about it when I messaged you on Instagram. You didn’t mention you made a video on the subject though. Glad that this gem came up in recommended videos. This was an incredible subject. Well done sir.
Thought you had asked about Thursatru, maybe I'm just confused. So many people that at some point my mind forgets stuff, sorry. Yes it's an interesting path a closer to nature in a more primitive and raw state. Glad you enjoyed the video ^^
Great video. Thank you. This deepens my understanding of this path, being yet another road to deeper understanding.
😍😍😍 hard to say but I think this is high on the list of favorites if I was to pick a favorite, your knowledge is beyond a college education and archeology experience. Very wise.. unique, brilliant!😊
Thank you very much, you are very kind ^^ . . . in the academic field and sciences I have boundaries and cannot extend the content into something more spiritual unless I can explain it with scientific proofs. But here on UA-cam I have a certain freedom hehe ^^
Thank you so much for this video. It has touched so many subjects I've been thinking of. One of my favorites, thanks for keeping it sane about satanism. Please keep these videos coming.
Very profound. I love it. I knew about the similarities you mentioned and have that same point of view. Thank you very much for this.
Heads up, by the end of this month (October 2018) I'll have another video like this one but talking about another neo-pagan branch of Norse spirituality that might be of your interest ^^
@@ArithHärger Thanks for the heads-up. I'll be waiting for it.
So good! Thank you Arith. Ofcourse watching everything.
I have always felt drawn to the Goddess Hel, sometimes I feel her calling to me, it’s not to die or anything like that, It’s a fellowship, it’s like she wants a relationship, I died 6 times as a infant. I kept thinking I need to follow someone like everyone else like Odin, Thor, Tyr etc. After watching this I feel it’s ok to have communion with the Goddess Hel. I feel this is the right path for me.
"I died 6 times as a infant" seriously like Sudden infant death syndrome or do you mena it in a methaforical way
Great perspective, thank you for the video.
This was an awesome video! My gods, I am very thankful I found your channel! I'd never heard of Rokkatru until now! It's very interesting. I love learning about my European ancestors! One last thing... I love your background music ... would you mind telling me what it is? It's perfect for meditation!
Thank you so much! It's hard to find anything about Rökkatru so I had to give a little contribution ^^ and the music in the background I use from incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/music.html , go to the "relax" session, or maybe "calming" and "mystical" and you will certainly find good music there.
Arith Härger thank you! I'll check it out!
Thank you ^^
That just about sums up my experience and I have never before come across the term 'Rokkatru'. Thank you so much.
Interesting video! I normally have trouble keeping focus for so long, but this topic is one that interests me and you offered some important insights. Thank you for making and sharing this!
I watched it all, plan to watch it again, and though I learned a great deal I've come out with more questions. Which of course is the best outcome. Liked, subbed.
what a treasure to find, enduring a spiritual crisis/purge/renaissance
Another great video. I feel that i did another step on my spiritual journey and assures me somehow on my view of the nature of things. Existence is way to complex to divided into two sides.
Indeed it is, thank you so much ^^
Very fascinating. This perspective makes the theodicy question obsolete.
Yet another great video, thank you. This view gives more sense to the Continental Germanic branch of Heathenry. I would love to see your thoughts on that one too.
THank you! Oh yes that would be an interesting subject to talk about. Sometimes I speak about certain germanic tribes as you will see in my upcoming videos. I do find the germanic sources very important for a variety of reasons, one of which is the fact that the germanic cults spread to Scandinavia and changed the entire religious background and brought new gods. Continental Germanic paganism in many aspects is the roots of Norse paganism.
This is one of the best videos i have ever watched on youtube (and that includes cats being scared by cucumbers)
But seriously, what a great insight you have, and were able to share
Im afraid if i start to write exactly why or how this video touched me, i may still be writing a year from now, but so much of it made so much sense, some of it didnt, and some of it i disagree, but thats fine, and to be fair, thats how we *should* react to most videos about serious things like this
Im months behind the release dates of thes, so i dont expect an answer, but if you can give one, thank you
What did you study? what books did you read? To gain such insight and understanding, because i want to read and study these things too. It is great having you teach me, but i would ike to get back to the source, so to speak, rather than just become a cultist of Arith :)
Well done !! Wonderful videos, much appreciated ! There are certainly verre pervasive influences from the dominant philosophical and religious traditions of the modern day. I have seen this in, especially American Asatru.. I no longer refer to my practise as "Asatru".. just the old ways. Religion, is only one aspect of our ideas about reality, the world, universe, how we should conduct ourselves, how we should live. Much of the old ways are, have been with us.. as an expression of our true nature, never minding what religions are in the high seat. The old ways to me start with my parents, and the threads continue to go back from there, eventually arriving at the Viking times, and , long before. ALU **
I'm so glad you said that.
Sometimes its rather terrifying what other people see norse paganism through the lense of christianity without real understanding. Its terrifying because that lense steal ummm a lot of peace from them, it start those small "christian wars" within pagan society. Which I found wrong and sad. Its not the way it should be (in my opinion)
Anyway, just wanted to say I love your channel. You're such a nice human being.
Thank you.🤘🏿😔🖤Ive been searching for so long, after so much sacrifice and events.Fate lead me here and I feel as though I exhaled for the first time in many years.🤘🏿😌😎🎸
Great video, I learned a great deal from it thank you
Ive learned so much about Paganism and the norse religion from you, thank you very much!
Thank you so much. You have opened my eyes . I’d like to know more about Norse mythology from a non-Christian perspective. How can I free myself from a Christian perspective? Suggested readings????
i love your videos... mostly because i am happily surprised we share the same views and conclusions ... much respect to you ,,,, fyi i am not a student of history or meth sadly .. but i love the subject and find our history fascinating
You make it all make sense. Thank you
I applaud your video sir. It's time we pagans need to see the world in a neutral or balance view.
Indeed it is, it would be a good start
love this, often wondered how satan could be related in a pagan view, thanks for another gem of wisdom in my journey
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Where would be a good starting point for one looking to begin on this path? I'd like more information. Thank you Arith!
Congrats on 2k+ by the way!
Edit: what books would you recommend regarding Rokkatru?
Thank you! hehe, well to be honest, and this is strange to me as I consume books all the time, but I haven't read one single book about Rokkatru. I'm not even sure if they exist because I've tried to find and I just can't find a single book about it. My knowledge of Rokkatru comes from personal contact with people who have this spiritual path and that's about it, that's why this video is much more my own interpretation rather than supported by a more academic resource, because in academic there's nothing concening this because it's a contemporaneous spirituality and we sill haven't religious studies about it.
Arith Härger fair enough!
It sounds pretty interesting, a very different take on the Norse traditions to Ásatrú. It could probably be applied to many of the European pagan traditions.
Dr Mahlek bro for resources on Rokkatru you may wanna check out Edred Thorsson- he’s very prolific there. Not on UA-cam I don’t think and I’m unsure if he wrote a book on it but he’s got websites on it.
Raven Kaldera is not considered mainstream but he has a book on the Jotun if you want to read it.
Try ekortu’s site www.ixaxaar.com/ there is a 3 volume series on Thursian sorcery ✨🖤✨
There are so many beings in the Eddas and Sagas that are Jotun. I don't understand shunning them. Another great video. Thank you for these.
Thank you so much for a very educational video, Arith! It's wonderful that you pointed out how some people let their former religion color paganism. It's hard to wrest your reactions from early indoctrination, but it's something every pagan has to do.
You have given me a new perspective on the difference between Christianity and Paganism, a view that I was lacking because of the culture in which I was raised: Christian Europe. I am glad to now know that there is no black and white, something that to me seemed so cynical and ironic and an important characteristic of Christian culture.
Thank you very much for the information! i'm very new to this, even spiriuality in general, but it inmedeatly feels like home. now im aware of the christian influence into the norse poems/traditions, how would you recommend to start learning,other then using your own compass/commen sense? (sorry for my english, greetings from the Netherlands tho ;) )
the shamanic essence of our ancient culture works well through you brother you have a vast amount of knowledge and I'm glad I found your channel you have a new subscriber
Whow whow whow I have always looked at loki and I saw alot of him and what he does in myself in the folklore.
I needed this
As Kali is the chaos of nature and the feminine. Sometimes terrifying; incredibly powerful. Some people only fear her and some worship her. The Indoeuropean pantheons started tipping toward the masculine going west :(
Thank you for this videa - I am truly amazed!
I must admit that some of my perspectives have been shaken a bit by what you say here - but I had to ask myself at the same time, how new was it to me, frankly? When you talk about the possibility, that the Creator could be a rather negative deity, I was thinging of old Gnostic, who (either they were Christian or not) claimed pretty much the same - the Creator is a Demiurg, who blinds us and forces us to worship him and consider him to be the only true God.
Nevertheless, it seems very hard to me to stop viewing Odin as Alfader - even though your reasons are very strong. But my relation to him is very strong, too, and I am not really sure that it is something bad. But I will be thinking about it a lot now.
And is there still no book on this topic you would know of?
Thanks a lot
Jan
This video is helpful - Rok, Rokkr - Stone, Twighlight.
Great video! Where can I read the poems (poetic Edda, prose Edda) with no Christian influence that you mention in this video? I would love to Read the originals.
thak you so much for the vids
Wow...Das ist mal richtig angekommen.
Love this
I know you've probably been asked this a thousand times but can you make a video of Vanatru please
I love your videos. You are so wise! Would you please do a video on Lokisenna? If you have PayPal I'll pay you for it. Loki has been a god I've been drawn to for many years.
You want me to make a video about Lokasenna and make an interpretation on Loki based on that source? I have a couple of videos about Loki and planning on doing more. You don't need to pay hehe, but if you want, for some reason, I send you my Patreon where you will find extra content I do not put in videos. There you can give money every month to help in the research. Here: www.patreon.com/ArithHarger By becoming my Patron you will have access to more information I don't usually put in videos. Also, if you choose the The Konungr Tier, you cna always aske me about something you think it would be anwesome for a video and I'll do it hehe. Thank you for your time and for the feedback ^^
Arith Härger Are you kidding? I thank the gods I've found your channel! Finally a perspective I align with as an educated person! I would be more than willing to support you! You are shedding light on a path of paganism that even neo-pagans don't understand! Thank you greatly!
I would love your interpretation of Lokisenna and Loki, yes! That would be awesome!
ok ok I shall have to take a look at that ^^
Arith Härger thank you! Skal!
Intriguing. I know a few people who might style themselves as Rokkatru, but from this I am not sure that they have their focus right.
Rokkatru is still a hard spirituality to talk about, quite new and there's still a lot to study about this pagan branch.
Good evening, I always learn interesting things from your comments. And I love how you do your posts.
This post about life after death is interesting.
But there are some points I would like to make, if I may.
The afterlife is also placed in the Bible, Torah, Buddhist teachings, Goddess Shiva of Hinduism and some philosophies like Yin-Yang, day and night, black and white, as well as on earth as in the sky, etc. Could this not be linked to our cycle of reincarnation? The question remains to ponder.
Another question is which God would create something and then destroy it? If God is perfection, what is this God who creates and destroys? Wouldn't that be a contradiction? Only man or another entity does this kind of thing. Build something, but not being to your liking destroys it to rebuild it. In my opinion, if I may. These "Gods" are not real Gods but someone or something posing as God (Anunnaki), destroying a failed creation.
Lots to think about. Thank you
This is amazing!
I'm going to watch again. To absorb and pick up on things I probably missed. Thank you! Great information on another perspective. Are there any books on this?
How does oneself truly disconnect from so very basic fundamental elements that define the large monotheistic religions? Abrahamic faiths have all grown more friendly with each other (on a larger scale in peaceful and prosperous nations) and thusly even those that try to be neutral between them still end up accepting their fundamental ideas as a norm.
By fundamental I mean:
having a religious main text or doctrine
some sort of organization or community
having an afterlife centered believe
having a concept of something akin to sin and good deeds
How can people raised and developing in even less religious societies that still feature this themes and ideas constantly truly disconnect from them? Or if they can not does this mena such people can never really become "pagans" or "heathens" and the like and at best can hope to be some form of polytheists or henotheists?
One of the things I'm very curious about is the fact Odin is referred to as a Wanderer. The original meaning of the word planet was Wanderer and included the Sun as well as the Moon. Is there any pre-christian evidence that the Norse Gods were connected to specific planets? 🤔
How can you analogise Loki with Prometheus, or Lucifer? What treasures did loki give to humanity?
Brother, what is the religion of the ancient ancestors and Vikings? Not the modern religion.
Where can I find more about rokkatru? What should I read?
This is very similar to the way I think and believe. Guess it does have a name!
Do you have good reputable readings one might find for researching
I'm on board with all of this except for giving any glory (or even excess of thought or attention) to Loki. A pre-Christian Odin has all of the cleverness attributed to Loki, except that he does it all one better in that he actually accomplishes the goals he seeks to fulfill. Whereas Loki just does stuff without any plan or recognition of what result may come to be. The "chaos" of a forest fire does provide for new life and growth, but Loki doesn't pay attention to or in any way care about what follows from his "chaos." And all of the benefits that do come about because of him are purely accidental.
Just one example is Mjollnir: Loki never stipulated the dwarves should create a weapon, or a hammer, or even a gift specifically for Thor. And Loki didn't provide Thor with the gift of Mjolnir, the dwarves did. And through all of the final three gifts, Loki persisted in trying to ruin each and every one of them. How great might Mjolnir have been if its handle were as long as was intended? We'll never know.
Did he intend to get pregnant and birth Sleipnir? We don't know. But we do know that he didn't give Sleipnir to Odin, One-Eye claimed the horse, seeing the benefits of the steed. And we don't hear Loki complaining about it, so he obviously doesn't possess Odin's insight into magical horses, even after having been one for a good long time. Loki never seems to learn anything from his actions and their results.
Every "follower" of Loki I've ever met was little more than a wannabe EDGELORD!!! with a hard on for the character provided to us by Snorri the Christian. That doesn't mean they all are, just that all of the ones I've met have been. And the majority of them couldn't name any deity outside the edda roll-call. They weren't interested in Rökkatru, they were just desperately trying to appear dangerous and cool. They call Loki sly, but he's entirely incapable of forseeing all of the trouble he causes for himself or in discerning the intrigues of other outsiders like Utgard-Loki. It would be extremely difficult to convince me that he's any more clever than Thor, and that nothing more than pure luck (by our modern meaning) pulls him through, which abandons him when he tries to air everyone's dirty laundry.
Ultimately, I view Loki as an example of how one should not lead one's life. Not because he's evil, or because he's an agent of chaos. But because he's a bumbling fool. Even looking between the cracks of the tales involving him doesn't convince me he's got anything to offer that can't be gotten better from others.
Does Odin claim names suggesting he's a king and father of everything? Or are those names given by others? I'll have to look into that. I haven't read anything in the nature of pre-Christian Odin that suggests he required everyone to do things his way, or that anyone needed to revere him. He seems to me to be a character who leads by example, and the majority of those examples are outside the notions of Christianized Norse society.
Because it's obvious to me that Odin was more than willing to work in a "Satanic" manner to find what he's seeking. And all of the Thurses would agree that a great way to find the truth of a thing is to break it. The only way to break Ginnungagap would be to impose an order. I think it's quite likely that Odin was motivated in this way - rather than with a goal of becoming some shining god-king of order and light. And then when one is stuck on the shining god-king of order and light throne, what better way to free oneself than to get outcast by the very society one created so that one may wander and seek true knowledge once more.
By my reckoning, using chaos for a purpose is "Satanic." Creating chaos for the sake of chaos is not.
Is Loki like a Joker figure, creating chaos? Rather, the Joker may be based, in part, on Loki?
do you have videos with no music in the background? I am having a hard time with listening to you intently to learn and the background music keeps throwing me off.
I'm a big fan I follow you and watch all your videos, but what more evidence can you show that are pagan ancestors went about at night? From what I remember they were afraid of the nighttime, like most ancient peoples- especially during the Wild Ride around Yule Time. Anytime where the two worlds might meet seems somewhat antagonistic
Hi Arith! please, do you know how to evoke that power? Thanks
Could you do a video on Anglo saxton rune verses Scandinavian runes or Icelandic What s the difference.
Fabulous
Why your title is not concreting on that person
So, if I'm hearing this right, you're saying that Rokkatru is the worship of the Vanir gods/goddesses and the Jotun?
Is there any god of art out there?
Yay, my picture is used in the thumbnail bag ground.
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Yes! I gave you credits on the description ^^ if you don't mind of course. If you want I can always take it out, obviously. I gave credit to you on D.A. because that's the only place I know you from D:
Arith Härger I don't mind, art is for everyone and if you find it fitting then of course you can use it. And I'm glad that you gave me credit :-D
I just thought "hang on... I know that picture" xD
Aside from your D.A. do you want any other credits? ^^
Arith Härger Nope, this it perfect :P
He's like Varg, but cool.
I try to tell people of the false duality that they use and how it destroys their imagination. The abrahamic religions successfully brainwashed the flock.
Where did you find a myth that His Majesty created the universe? I have found different myths about the birth of the universe, but not creation. Being (mostly) Hesiodic Chaos gave birth to the universe, which any mother would tell you is very different from intentional creation.
When I mean creation, I refer to the myths of creating the world and life in it, especially human life, although in the case of the Christian god and Yahweh, they are so powerful it seems that in certain accounts the universe was also create by them. The concept of universe for proto-historic abrahamic beliefs was quite limited, it's not the same concept of other cultures such as Hellenic, Norse, Celtic, Lusitania, Egyptian etc. which go beyond the realm our world is in. So that "universe" has limits in the ancient mind of midle-eastern cultures, unlike in Norse cosmology where Ginnungagap itself is an endless realm with no time where everything originally came from, and in that case it's not the creation of the universe by Odin. Odin as a creator god is strict to the mortal world and the creation of human kind, either with his two brothers or his two brothers are just 2 aspects of the same creator. That's what I meant.
Arith Härger so a creation of order on earth, yeah that is an orthodox view.
Ok, now I think I am Rokkatru 😅
In polytheists/panetheist religions, there isn't any supreme deity. It's cos these religions were destroyed in the West, this concept crept in. Normally, anyone can have his OWN main deity, whom he'll place at the top. For him, this deity is absolute. But it's ONLY for him.
Here in India, probably the only surviving ancient civilisations, there are countless different sects each having a high deity of it's own. Maybe that deity has no real significance in the myth, but for that sect, s/he is everything.
The reason is simple: we are as individuals very different. Some maybe very loving and kind, some wrathful, some artistic, some introverted, some extroverted and so on. Each is supposed to choose an archetype deity (forces of nature, thought form, energy) based on his or her character trait. In fact the person doesn't even have to choose most of the time. Somehow the he'll get introduced to the deity if he's seeking honestly. This is why it's often said "the gods choose the seeker".
Now the problem with monotheism, or a system that puts one deity on top, is that if a person doesn't really find THAT specific deity attractive, he will just ignore the entire system. Or he'll just have a superficial devotion which is mostly out of fear.
Cos of Islamic and christian invasions this has crept into Indian general consciousness too. Unconsciously they're practicing these faiths. Only a few serious seeker truly understand.
Hinduism have several supreme deities so you are dead wrong there.
Not necessarily true for all paths, friend.
Well said
Namaste "the gods choose the seeker" ... YES! 🙏🕉️🙏
No clue about Vedic culture.... Brahman is Supreme....all Devas are aspects of it.
You had my curiosity ... but now you have my attention. Damn, you’re a high quality human being!
I appreciate that, thank you very much ^^
Hello my friend, you have achieved the almost impossible task of keeping me so totally focused that I'm unable right now to form a decent response..so just for now I'll tell you that this was an absolutely excellent piece of work and the length was spot on even though I could listen to you for much longer. You have definitely come into your own here. Thank you.
Thank you very much ^^ Enthusiasm made talk a lot :p
Fun Fact: In Zoroastrianism there is prophet of Ahura Mazda (the main god) that was said to have expanded the earth with a magic ring and dagger in order to make more room for humanity. In Fargad II he is said to have come thousands of years before Zoroaster... his name was Yima! Such a close resemblance to Ymir!
Arith, every time i think i have a favorite vid, i find another. I share them often. Amazing research, sincere perspective, and insightful in the most compassionate way. Thank you. Skål!
So fascinating i binge watch your videos thank you for everything
Hullo! Thank you very much. I'm surprised you are able to have the patience to hear me for long periods of time :p don't you get tired? D:
This really resonated with me, thank you.
Fantastic video, thank you so much!
As far as I am concerned, I would not actively invite Loki and his chaos (not evil, just reckless) into my life. On the same note, I dont seek out Odin either. I am working on learning as much as I can about Hel though.
Some people risk a lot to acquire knowledge
Elizabeth, I first began working with the Norse pantheon when, right before a series of grievous life-changing events, Loki made himself present to me. I, of course having heard bad things about him, was a little bit terrified. I faced up though, did a lot of research and asked him to make himself known, and I asked why he was reaching out to me. He did make himself known to me in a few ways, one being a dream where I saw him as both an adult and as a small child. He honestly came to me right when he knew I'd need my faith the most. He is a tough-love deity yes, but he is also amazing. He is funny, he uses humor and lightheartedness to teach you at times. He is a prankster that will watch you trip over you own foot if it means you learn something. He gives me the silent treatment at times because he knows I hate that. But he is loving, caring, ultimately stands beside you. He doesn't give direct lesson as much as he likes you to more or less "figure things out", he loves and protects children, outcasts, he shines his light on the darkness that consumes people. He forces change, because it is needed. Do not be afraid of him, he is often far from reckless. There is much to be learned from him and his kin. And if you have any question about him and/or his family I'll happily answer what I can!!
@@chrisinreallife2022 I agree with this sentiment, Loki has helped me make immense improvements to myself and my life, sometimes he injects a little chaos into your life and watch stumble and fall but he also expects you to be strong enough to get back up and pull yourself together and in the end you're better off with that lesson the chaos was able to teach you and it makes you a much stronger person, you sometimes have to suffer a little to reach your full potential, nothing worthwhile in life is ever easy, if you're not strong and able to endure and learn from the chaotic aspects of the world you're doomed to fail in the end and you will probably end up getting destroyed by the chaos instead of working with it and using it as means to improve yourself, chaos is not bad and order is not good, it's all a balance, too much chaos and you fall and stumble over everything and can't hold anything together, too much order and you stagnate and rot begins to set in spiritually and mentally and you become like a robot, a slave to certain rigid ideas that has become stuck, then you need a little chaos to bring back the balance and Loki is great for that, he's probably the best life teacher i've had, yes he's tough and unforgiving at times but when you show your strength and get back up he will be ready for you with open arms because he is also very loving to those willing to greater lengths to become better and to learn.
I am coming to a conclusion lately that Loki might be more apart of my life than ive realized. Although ive been very spiritual and pagan naturally since birth. Spending mostly my entire childhood outdoors, hearing my name blowing in the wind, pretending i was a wizard that commanded nature and such, but only now at age 40 decided to go down my ancestors path being almost entirely from germanic Scandinavian roots. Needless to say ive been on this "path" now for 2 months now and my life has totally changed in certain ways. But back to point with Loki, at work the other day i was like a dog chasing his own tail for 2 hr almost to point of panic until i had a realization. After that situation was normal then came the next realization, i called out to Loki and he responded back with a giggle.
Fascinating topic! And well spoken, too!
You are a wise man my friend.
Thank you for your guidance and wisdom. I appreciate your perspective.
In Ásartú the existence (and its necessity) of Chaos is perfectelly accepted, the divine Order came from primordial Chaos. That means the Chaos isn't understood as "evil" or something similar, but neccesary in the cosmic cicles. However, it's totally unrecommendable to pray this chaotic forces or even more if you pray for Loki, the Supreme Lord of Chaos. The reason is because when you performance a blót, you are intechanging energy and power with the beings that you are offering. The food or the drink that you are offering is not the actual sacrifice, but a mean, a bridge between you and those beings. You actually are sacrificing you will and effort in order to support this beings and, in the same way, you receive something from them. When you performance a blót in honor to the Aesir or Vanir, you are giving your will and energy with the porpouse of support them in the fight against the chaotic forces, so you are contributing to the cosmic order. They also give you their blessing, is a "gift to gift" game. On the other hand, if you performance a blót in honor of the Jotnar or other wild spirits, you are supporting the chaos and you don't receive any gift from them, but a curse. Of course the Chaos and those beings are necessary in order to establish a ballance in the cosmic circle, but Do you really want to attrack chaos in your life instead of order?
All civilization and order lives on the bones of others with skeletons in their closets. And will be the skeleton in the closet of the next generation of civilization.
We are always attached to the skeletons of the past, hard to let go of that and become something new, totally free. There's no true freedom if we keep living our lives like that, attached to old fears and subjugating ideas which have tried to tame us
Arith Härger at the same time, the end of the current order will come with violence and death. Odin created his order out of murder and it is his murder that will end it. It is no wonder he frets so and gathers warriors. Saturn tried to devour the young too. It is a harsh reality to find out that order is kept through murder and war. All things will come to pass and the night happens before the dawn.
Arith Härger I am a person who enjoys hiking and camping into the wilderness. It is strange how people are afraid of the wild, but when I go into the wild, I find peace and beauty, when I come back to human civilization, I see it is the human ways that are dangerous and are self destructive. I hope in our next civilization, we can live as richer beings, closer to nature and spirit.
I really see both sides on this though. Humans are dependent on order. I think chaos and anarchy is temporary and not as pleasant as an anarchist might think they are. Maybe the order needs to be renewed from time to time. As your last video says, when the king gets old, it is his turn to be sacrificed.
Outstanding!
I do not agree 100% with every detail here. Though I highly agree with the direction in general.
I would not go to the extent of separating the 2 concepts, Asatru and Rokkatru. Though I understand why you have. The way I look at it is Asatru as a religion is the introductory path to return to the deeper pagan traditions, ideas and so on. Many people will just stop at this 1st level. But some will seek more, ask questions and delve deeper, as clearly you have. Such is also my way. And I feel the "name" or "lable" we use is more or less irrelevant. Other than for the purpose of discussion with a pre agreed definition.
Excellent work. Thank you very much!
Thank you very much for your feedback. Well, we should never agree 100% with anything; we should give some space to our own perspectives and opinions. Doubting and questioning everything it's what leads us to seek answers and subsequently to obtain knowledge hehe. Spirituality is just like everything else in life. We should always be in the process of learning and evolving.
@@ArithHärger precisely. :-)
Thanks for this video Arith. I had often wondered about the connection between Greek and Norse mythology after the first time that I read Snorri and he describes a brief history of the Norse tribes migrating from Asia Minor.
Thank you for the card that I received today on my return from work. When I saw it and read your greetings it made me fell a very blessed man to have such a good friend.
I have a suggestion for a topic: Ancestor worship by the ancient Norse tribes. There must be some form of such worship when we see the elaborate burials that were performed.
Yes! You received my card! I was afraid it would be lost in the way. Can't trust Portuguese post offices :/ You are right, there must be something related to the ancestors. Sometimes in my videos I give hints of that because the cult of the ancestors is scattered and in archaeological findings we don't have much. We have the Dísablót and Alfablót, private/domestic cults of Frigg etc. but it would be an interesting idea trying to pick these little scattered pieces and form a video. I'll try.
yes there are many read Anastasia the ringing cedar series by Vladimir Megre
Thank you for your videos, i love them! It is not clear to me the difference between rokkatru and thursatru
I understand you 😊
And huge respect to you for sharing this and daring to talk about it 👍
When I have to explain my faith myself, I only say Asatru as it can be difficult enough to explain to the person 😊 but I would like to be able to be completely honest with people. When I say that Loki is one of the gods I understand, what you are talking about happens. Then people tell me that he is evil and a cheater. And I get scared and say "no, he's not mean to me" and here people shut down completely. So get to make them happy I say "Thor is also one of the gods I invite to my blót"
But then it comes. Blót is also a "bad" thing in today's perception?
But yes, 1000 thanks for making your videos I feel we practice religion / faith / living a way ,a lot alike 🍀
År og fred
Amei o vídeo! Falou muito bem sobre o Satânismo/Luficerismo e eu sou dos dois tá. Pf fale mas de nossos irmãos e irmãs pagãns ae
This video is like a refreshing mead. So long have I been scorned as a follower of Rökkatru. Thank you for so eloquently representing our spirituality.
You are a great teacher. \o/