exactly, roblox is so unoptimized to the point where its difficult to even bother making a serious competitive scene in a roblox game. Oh, and don't get me started on the shitty community this platform has.
@@ToreCentipededo u hear yourself or did u even watch the video? 8k hours, that’s 333 days straight of deepwoken. Playing even just 11 hours a day is over 2 years. Dude that’s more time than people spend sleeping or working. Don’t try to pull that “he’s just enjoying a game shit”
@@jeffboy4231 same, I met some really chill dude back when I was a freshie, he didn't really help me progress but he didn't attack me despite probably being close to max
I swear if I see somone calling anyone a perma freshie unironically, calling somone a newgen, calling somone a mutt I will pretty much just try best I can to not interact with them, it usually just results in me swapping servers.
Agreed. I never really understood where terms like that even came from. It really just seems like the (Let's be honest here...) kids or hardcore vets that are overly attached to a game just want a new insult to sling so they can stay on this pedestal they seem to think they're on. Just...kinda confusing.
@@DogGaming506Making a game more accessible to beginners does not affect the endgame much because the game just seems easier to you because you got better
@@DogGaming506 and does that make them better people? no. i get that you all want it to stay hard just like me as a Soulsborne player wants them to stay Hard too but doesnt make us better in anyway, which for all Deepwoken players i ran too say, that i suck cuz i dont like Deepwoken and they are better cuz they can play hard games
The dumb thing is all the "comps" have a damn low ping (80 and lower), which gives them such a dumb advantage, that they just can only yap about. All these competitiveness comes from the large ego of a couple of guys who just want their "skills" to be acknowledged.
@@Тотсамый-х1ж8з most of them would also just have complete constant 60-120fps on medium-high settings, it's easy for them to talk shit cause the game is 100x easier for them.
its actually crazy how much of a difference there is with better fps and ping cause it doesnt feel like theres a big difference but there actually is i hit top 50 when i played on a better pc for a week 💀
Even though this ping is a very good advantage, theres a whole lot of other things that can make someone skilled at the game. If you dont know what im talking about, watch a little SpidersDW or nogo.
he said he never used it on video it possible he used it off camera and killed that guy and he somehow found out he was eclipse then commented saying he hates him for using ironsing lol
@@Greatestswordsman69That’s quite the stretch. But why does it matter that he’s using ironing anyways. Ain’t flamechamr the most cringe attunement still after 3 years?
@JohnSmith-kx3nx to be fair iron sing can also be pretty annoying but so can every attunement except like thunder call, I don't think I've ever heard someone complain about that
honestly the speech at the end of the video was so true and it just breaks my heart that some people have to be such mean people because "oh you're not good enough" or "oh you want money" when you literally NEED money and you don't have to be good to play a video game. sorry for the grammar being shit im sleepy af and lazy too
8k hours on a game like tf2 makes sense, maybe even an average amount of hours for a tf2 player. But 8k hours on Deepwoken has to be the LARGEST LIE known to man, or you genuinely have no brain activity other than using your keyboard and mouse.
Tf2 has been out for significantly longer so while it’s shocking to see someone with that many hours in TF2 it’s not as unnerving as someone with the same amount on deepwoken.
Deepwoken feels like it's very foundation wishes to gatekeep you from it. Every single thing you do must be done with some sort of guide or you fail again and again and learn nothing until you quit. Dialogue is vague without reason. Bosses are often tucked away in tiny corners along with the echo talents. And I don't need to tell you that Voidwalkers exist solely to screw over people who don't know any better.
needing to use a wiki is already annoying, but atleast you CAN use a wiki, meaning you can do smth about it. but with stuff like voidwalker there's not much to do if you are newbie.
i played it solo i had to freaking look for kaido for an hour in the void sea then i got ganbanged by two kaidos spawning near each other unfortunate doesnt even begin to describe my deepwoken series this game rewards grouping and nothing else im beyond convinced at this point
No school no job just 11 hours of fucking deepwoken how do you dedicate that much time of your life to a Roblox game,my man is on the grind to be the most useless member of society 😭😭😭
For those who don't know what exlipse is talking about at 14:25 (atleast from my point of view correct me if i'm wrong). Eclipse says that normally build shouldn't be the issue here because builds shouldn't be the main focus for pvp you need to have skill. For exemple, having a god build shouldn't make you instantly win the match so if you can't parry you'll still get destroyed in chimes/overworld pvp.
the only exception to this rule should be cheese builds, such as blinding frost builds that cover the screen in particles and any build with ironing (why tf can I get true stunned for several seconds during my own uppercut-fire blade-flaming scourge-judgement combo cus my foe pressed x💀)
2:14 I have about 120 hours into Deepwoken and I just started trying to learn PvP. I started fighting voidwalkers when I knew how to get up from the depths easily, and when I when I can get to level 20/the same level I was fairly quickly. Newbies first instinct is going to be "not dying" and not fighting when they get really punished from dying.
Across my 3 slots I have about 450 hours, and I still haven't learned shit about PvP cuz the entry level PvP doesn't exist. I haven't even gotten voidwalker yet because freshies ganking is wrong and I actually have morals and empathy (very rare for deep players ik)
@@DogGaming506 never did i say that i was protecting them from voidwalkers, I was talking about freshie gankers. I obviously get my friends to turn off voidwalkers. Stop making assumptions.
People need to stop pushing newer players or bad players out of their community. There's nothing wrong with being bad at a video game and it pisses me off whenever I see some jackass go around telling all the new players and bad players to quit the game because for Deepwoken its actively killing the game. The game is already extremely beginner unfriendly and when you add people gatekeeping it on top of that the game is just gonna get no new players and just die because of these people, and that's sad because Deepwoken is actually a good game once you get past all the tutorials and competitive players.
deepwoken "pros" are the reason the game has lower numbers and not their prosumed "dry content" pro's are so goddamn dumb, deepwoken has ALOT of content, just cuz you spent 8k hours on it doesn't mean the game doesn't have content.
It's even sadder when you realize how often this happens with games even outside of Roblox "competitive games", like popular shooters, or...any game with any semblance of a ranking system. People seem to just brainwash themselves into thinking that because they've already mastered a game and its mechanics, they somehow have a right to judge whether or not someone just starting out is even "worthy" of playing, even though they used to BE that starting player. It's honestly crazy to me how people can seem to be so blind to the most basic shit just because they're in the mindset that they know everything and that everyone else is just a "bad player" in comparison. And when someone they think is bad humbles them, sound the fucking sirens because this "God tier player" mysteriously lost at a game somehow, and that can't POSSIBLY be right.
tbh perfect casting sucks ass and they should remove it it doesn't get explained AT ALL the only way you really gonna find out it exists is through eureka and then reading the wiki, it's only another big factor that weighs higher ping people down, and it's way too hard to people to actually figure out at first imo either remove it or make it ALOT more noticeable that you actually used it correctly. cuz atm i still never feel like i'm able to do it
@@innerapathy mantra feinting is needed to play gale, and perfect casting is basically js a step on the way to mantra feinting which most ppl dont know is a thing cause it doesnt matter
1:34 The funniest part about this is perfect casting has since been confirmed multiple times by the devs to have just been purposefully broken for a while It literally does nothing, and they, for someone so invested, should probably know this
@@under_cal Arch confirmed way back in 2023 that perfect casting now does nothing and is never going to do anything again It was circulated quite heavily in Deepwoken info
I already commented this but, i went afk for a few minutes and some guy kills me in the depths and went out of his way to sleuth and find my discord ID just to say "ez kid, wiped yo ah blud, never try to deepbound prog in front of me" i respond with "don't you have anything better to do?" and blocked him. I've never messaged or done anything to anyone in this community so this was just first impressions of the community of the game i was playing.
@@somebadartist219 the dude going into his dms to shittalk him is wild but him getting killed for going afk in the depths is ABSOLUTELY his fault there is ZERO reason you should go afk in the PERMADEATH zone instead of just menu'ing/logging
20:55 the "no one would ever play main game if chimes had no consequences" is an old mentality. it definitely was true back when the game released (everyone was garbo, winning games was easy so if there were no downsides im sure a lot of people woulda just chime dwelled like crazy) but now that the skill gap between players has increased dramatically chimes just isnt that fun anymore. so yeah, the mentality was valid for like the first few months of the game but now its just kinda dated.
9:15 the worst part about newer people having to get reputation to stop voidwalkers is that THERE IS an arbitrary requirement for new players to be able to be voidwalked, it's that they had to have reached power 15 once before, which, to me, just isn't enough of a requirement, since you can't just throw someone new to the voidwalker dogs after possibly not even reaching max power on a slot... i'd think you'd at least throw in a "have gotten bell" requirement or something...
i've done it now that i don't get attacked by voidwalkers now but it's still so dumb and if i was new i wouldn't be able to do it at a lower level, maybe at higher level (though by that point i'd be dead from a voidwalker lol)
Thats just a bandaid, you could get lucky by meeting someone and getting to power 15 with them. That doesnt mean that your skill level is so high you get into pvp fights every 5 minutes, you could still be a new player
tf2 is 17 years old and the most tryhard veterans have 20k hours, while deepwoken released basically 4 years ago. mf probably has a poster surrounded by candles with the skull icons of the chime that he bows down to everyday for luck and prosperity in his chime fights
i love your dms being open all the time, you seem much more easier to get in contact with as a youtuber than most others of your size. Listening to your community is both a good content farm and also nice for the community itself lol
Cool video, haven't finished it yet though i wanted to comment on 5:10 as you say uppercut isnt useful in pve but its actually insanely good if you know how to use it. Uppercut into some specific mantras will allow you to stay above enemy hitboxes while still damaging them which is very useful to know. (can also be used to get out of stunlock sometimes) I know, minor nitpick but yeah
Yeah having that air time helps massively against certain encounters, bounders are probably the best example i can think of. Especially on wave 25 of deluvian
What i don't understand about the first guy, why is he saying "well not everyone wants to do pve" while this is true, you HAVE to do pve to even get to level 20 TO pvp. The point of a beginners guide is to start you off, the very first thing you'd want people do to is actually GET level 20 making all pvp tips pointless since you aren't going to voluntarily pvping until you hit level 20. Also about him saying perfect casting is needed, it's completely useless unless you have talents for it.
Roblox's competitive community is a lost cause. Players will continue to be toxic towards eachother and ruin the experience for new players forever. I've accepted this reality already.
I honestly wasn't really interested in roblox competitive games, but I'm glad I finally see people talking about how utterly stupid the community of these games are.
@@EditorSquare. it's because they're unsupervised children who have way too much time in their hands and has never gotten a beating from talking shit, i used to be in this spot as i found anyone who played casually as worthless and shouldn't play the game, now after having no unlimited internet for like a year, i learned that casuals make up a large chunk of a games playerbase.
@@JohnLegend2906 you mean when casual players point out real problems with the game, mainly because they've seen and played other games that they can compare them to and they realize how much the game could be better if they solved them and also they aren't afraid to criticize their game
@@devnandannair2336 Those supposed "real problems" literally exist because the game is meant to be niche for a specific type of people. It's annoying having random dudes coming out of nowhere trying to change the core game that wasn't even meant for them. You can't just try jump into a competitive game and force it to be casual.
while i agree with ur sentiment eclipse, i must point out that blox fruit has an amazing competitive comunity that is full of only the most wholesome & helpful ppl ever !!!!
@@waterdropplettm72 if you play blox fruits for like 1 minute, you realize that you have no way of actually getting the cool and flashy animations and the "amazing" combat veterans talk about unless you no-life the game for a few weeks lmao.
@@LeatherNinja and i still CANNOT believe it even got in the roblox innovation awards, the game isn't innovative, it just rakes in roblox a fuck ton of cash, probably why shit like skibidi toilet tower defense got in the roblox "classic" event so easily.
the competitive aspect of roblox in general (not even deepwoken) really hurt me. i pretty much only play fighting games on roblox, which obviously has a lot of... aggression, to say the least. nothing short of just quitting the game can even save you from people who just want to target or endlessly harass. i bought deepwoken probably around a year ago. i dont think i have longer than a week playtime before i quit, simply because i was getting so annoyed at other players. its such a shame, because i love how much effort is put into deepwoken, and i really wish i could play it and enjoy it, but i know i'll just get annoyed repeatedly if i even boot it up. also, insults like "permafreshie" and "mutt" (as i saw in some other comments) are entirely unjustified. making fun of people on a video game they're just trying to play for recreational purposes and enjoy is completely wrong. play how you want, but don't bring others down because you have an ego. it's disgusting that there's at least one or two people in these comments that would find ways to justify calling people those things simply because they're worse than they are.
Caveat about the first dude. Idk what bro in your DMs is waffling about, but uppercuts are a super basic input everyone should learn. I think everyone should know the basic offensive inputs, like M1, uppercut, feint, crit
@@snajker6738 I haven’t touched the tutorial in awhile, but they should include every basic offensive and defensive option. Not everyone wants information out of game. They don’t even teach you to vent. It’s as simple as teaching players these inputs. Offensive Options: M1, Uppercut, Aerial, Running Attack, M1 Feint, Mantra, Mantra Feint Defensive Options: Block, Parry, Roll, Roll Cancel, Vent
@@EldritchEntityWithASmartphone yeah the tutorial kinda sucks, the tutorial is actually kinda worse than having to tutorial at all tbh. new people that do the tutorial think that what they got taught is everything the game has to offer, so they don't even look at the controls cuz why would they need to? meaning that the tutorial is most likely the reason most new players just don't know about venting lol
My take is that they should add some kind of advanced tutorial you can do by talking to an npc. Example: instead of just sparring the isle of vigils NPC he could give you a quick tutorial on the more advanced keybinds like uppercuts and feints at the same time as fighting you. (Vent should be in the basic tutorial tho PLEASE DEVS I KEEP SEEING NEW PLAYERS WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO "GARFIELD!!! You have tempo!!!!")
14:10 - Top 250 player here, I am honestly ashamed of myself that I did not get what you meant by "you dont know as much as you think you do" AT THAT POINT.. IM STARTIN' TO THINK ITS TRUE.. I don't think Eclipse lost because of build, he was exploring a PVP gamemode, which take in mind, is full of the people that take this shit way too seriously, with limited fighting experience But the fact I didnt have a SINGLE FREAKING CLUE as to what he was talking about when he said "'you'll live with having to sit there and go why did Eclipse say I dont know as much as I think I did" absolutely mindbroke me HAHAHAH (Side note: i'm not calling Eclipse bad, I think he's actually doing really good to start from the videos ive been seein'
Deepwoken “competitive” I was there I was on the leaderboard when that first came out. It’s such a gate kept community of toxicity. A cest pool for weirdo’s that need too feel special by being better at a game that takes “skill”. It’s such a terrible system with a lot of terrible people.
12:00 with the races on deepwoken, they are almost completely irrelevant, having literal single digit changes most of the time and barely affect gameplay. And the races without the single digit changes usually have very niche uses such as celtor and boats or capras with campfires. hell the rarest race in the game literally just gives you a free glider lol.
@@vanillajellyfish even for minmaxxing it doesn't matter much, there will be those few points that don't matter where they go, and the shrine of order ignores the race points. meaning they don't really matter much even for minmaxxers
@@jeffboy4231 i bring it up because i see people on the deepwoken discord complain that they "can't do their build with a certain race because those 3 points of intelligence or whatever stat they don't want to invest in that the race has are wasted and prevents them from getting this super important talent or weapon point milestone to equip this weapon because they're 3 points short".
@@jeffboy4231 I've seen examples of people trying to use each and every single point to where you don't even want, say, Celtor's starting intelligence for a 0 intel build, since those points of intel leave them a few points short of exactly what they want, since it'd leave them unable to get a few certain talents or use a certain weapon, even with Shrine of Order being accounted for... (I don't agree with that sort of sentiment, for the record, but i see snough people complain about race starter points)
This is why I don’t touch Roblox PVP games all that often anymore. The ping and sweat needed to keep up with the pros can be demotivating at times. Speaking of PVP games (that aren’t from Roblox), I should try getting into TF2 again at some point
to play devils advocate a bit here for the "8k hours" uppercut guy, flamecharm does have a good handful of talents and synergy with uppercuts and you did recommend flamecharm for trial of one angels. still a goofball but thats the one angle in which hes barely correct.
4:32 I REFUSE to believe he openly admitted to have 8k+ hours on a single game, and also admits to playing 11+ hours every single day AND that is the ONLY game he plays.
these videos are the funnies shit ever man, Deepwoken is like the new YBA for this channel and as someone who used your beginners guide, i like to say thank you for teaching about reps
The idea of Doors is amazing but it was poorly executed and turned into a bullet hell game. Not to speak about how it doesn't give a F about deaf people by making the whole game pure sound based.
Oh My god. I cannot stress how much more blissful my life has been since I quit competitive Roblox games. I started playing Minecraft again, and I feel like I achieved some sort of spiritual awakening.
as ex top 250 i heavily appreciate you talking negatively about chime most of these players that shit talked u are buns and will get 5 barred by an actually good decent, once ur around the deep community alot ur gonna see how big of an ego everybody has, even me 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Not too sure abut the obvious flaw eclipse. I personally when starting out ran that with vegiterian as my dumb ass saw the others as a death sentence. I couldnt really see the difference when running obvious, i could still easly sneek attack enemies agro on you anyways after gripping and lastly some enemies dont get onshot by sneeks attacks or better yet dont get sneek attacked. imo run obvous if you know how to stay out of a line of sight and crouch.
I just wanted to say I really loved the near the last section of the video, and I am glad you know your worth and how to utilize it to help other people more.
Roblox competitive communities suck… Much like a very badly made bowl. These kinds of bowls never get anywhere and can’t hold anything inside, and are usually discarded/recycled in order to fabricate a superior bowl later on. I saw a man get shot in an alleyway yesterday. In order to make a good bowl you’d be advised to look for high-fired ceramic, which is more durable unlike earthenware ceramic.
No, more like a glass bowl formed improperly which will eventually burst from pressure, but it also has elegant designs that will make the mind wonder what it means.
i honestly dislike going along with metas, when i play deepwoken (with long breaks) i usually do something not practical at all but fun in my opinion, like my last build was a high charmisma cook who also does some alchemy and maxing all the rep with the factions, was it awfull at fighting? yea, was it fun and fufilling traveling the sea, meeting people, cooking or makeing potions for them, talking with them, even playing instruments together? hell yea, in short, dont treat deepwoken as a fighting game, treat it as you like, if you are creative alot of stuff is possible :)
its literally a curse and blessing of not bein ganked by voidwalkers, new players always gets them but when i want to fight them they never appear; if they do theyre actually new players trying to learn pvp and i feel bad man
1:56 as dumb as the guy responding is uppercuts and perfect casting are easy and useful for beginners because itll help them learn to mix up and they can actually defend themselves when they get ganked, be that a voidwalker or a weirdo
Tbh I’ve seen uppercuts used in pve many times and beginner guides should be an introduction to both the pve and PvP of the game. Trying to call him stupid for saying he should include it was kinda dumb especially since right after that we see that eclipse agrees(then he doubles down by saying it wouldn’t be useful for them to know right after?) now I’ve been playing deep since release(not 8k hours though💀) and perfect casting ain’t allat as nobody does it including me
@@onioncartel been using it for some time and fought against people with gale, that shit doesn't need perfect casting and never saw anyone ever use it lol
To everyone asking yes.. it is a joke I know he doesn't want to fight 7 snowman. However it would be interesting to see him shit on the entirety of the game, blox fruit has too many horrible stuff he might have a stroke so maybe it's better he stays away from it.
Deepwoken was publicly released on December the 20th in 2021. We are in July the 19th in 2024. Thats about 943 days (i dont know when the dm's were sent, so we're being generous here). 943 days is about 22632 hours. If you divide 8000 hours with 22632 and multiply with 100, you get 35,3%. This man spent 1/3rd of this game being released playing it.
Hey Eclipse! I'm a DDOS enjoyer and I don't even watch your other videos beside some game reviews. Please keep making more of these as this keeps me laughing! (I mean crap I don't even know what the terms "permafreshie, autidact, chime etc." mean but holy is this funny) 😂
if he isnt lying about the 8k hours in that game, he would be playing the game for a whole entire year, no breaks, no going outside, no sunlight, full of gfuel and fat, probably has a discord kitten, and is the only game that he has ever played since then, you are out of your mind, playing only one game for a year is the most time consuming thing you can do, dont you get bored just playing the same shit over and over again?
Voidwalker system would be better if everyone could be voidwalked regardless of rep but they dont grip, once they are knocked u get tped back and get the xp. Also u may need skill to win at chime, but build's are really important too mainly in chime because most builds WILL be cheese..
I never understand people that gatekeep games. If more people join you beloved game, won’t that just give the developers more incentive to continue to work on and improve the game?
Eclipse you should try out Attack on Titan: Freedom war. It's not like the other attack on titan games where you just sit and kill titans, it's a campaign game with permadeath where random people are selected as titan shifters(except for the warriors) and it plays through the attack on titan story all the way up to the Retake Arc. It's really fun and I play it with my friends often. The odm gear feels different from other attack on titan games, but it doesn't take long to get used to.
14:11 - Eclipse's *probably* talking about HAVING to use meta builds to not get dilacerated, locking you into a few specific builds that are constantly changing.
another thing about ragoozer voidwalker used to need you to grip around 20 people, and the creation of this origin was mostly overseen by ragoozer (most likely) in rogue lineage, there existed a mod shop where moderators (from jr to sr) could buy, edicts like blademaster (obtained through being ranked 1-10 in the world in khei with 250 grips) seer, healer, including an unreleased jester edict with timestop, an instant win button they could also buy namechanges and more to get these points all you had to do was restore/ban players, there might be more things you could buy on the shop, but idk there were also whitehats which were exploiters testing exploits on the game to test the anticheat. they could kill you and you would lose a life
10:58 Can I just say that these are some of the worst boons and flaw (not flaws) you can pick Maverick does basically nothing since its exp bonus is so low Autodidact is completely useless unless you want to speed up your prog by a minor margin Obvious makes life much harder for you and makes it much easier for you to get jumped by monsters The only decent suggestion here is Manic, since its insanity gain is not actually that big and it can actually be used as a boon for certain builds
I just wanna say something. I love PVE and that’s how I started Deepwoken, because I loved the PVE progression. I did in fact turn off voidwalkers but still ended up getting ganked by some random who is power 20 maxed out and dying in the depths to a squibbo. From there I got my friends into the game and I’ve basically dedicated myself to getting better at PVP so my friends can have a more enjoyable time playing Deep and they have had so much fun. Thank you for the Beginner’s Guide as it was extremely helpful for both me and my friends.
Something I’ve learned about most roblox communities is that they love to gatekeep. Game had a limited time event that rewarded something that isn’t a skin and actually impacts gameplay? Nah, they shouldn’t make it available because they like their rare exclusive. Very silly.
13:31 ngl it is hard. But only for new players, who ironically, are the people who need skulls the most because theyre the ones that die the most. Peak game design😂
Hey Eclipse! I’ve asked you in the past on reviewing the rogue-like Randomly Generated Droids. It uses old roblox mechanics and has a fun storyline to it Im almost positive you would enjoy if you tried it! Love the uploads pooks❤
I want to play a singleplayer version of deepwoken with no pvp and im willing to pay good money for it. I only care about exploring the game and finding cool lore and talking to npcs, with a slow pace relaxing pve grind fighting bandits and mudskippers I don't care for pvp combat at all and I wish I could just buy a private server completely unconnected to the main game so I can play by myself with absolutely nothing, zero of anything transferring over to the public game and being entirely localized and saved in the private server. I want to play deepwoken as a single player RPG.
Imo game devs should just focus on either pve or pvp when making games. If I want pvp, I look for pvp. If I want pve, I look for pve. I do not like going into a pve game to enjoy the story only to get ganked by players and have my experience ruined. Same for game devs. If you want a pve game, just focus difficulty scaling on pve. If you want a pvp game, just focus on skill based balancing on pvp. If you want both you need to account for difficulty scaling on pve while making sure the pvp side is still balanced and skill based which is gonna quickly burn you out and neither side of the community will be happy.
I think casual competitive is actually fun and healthy in roblox. Like a friendly race in an obby or something like Phighting. Or the many good FPS games roblox has now. People taking it super seriously is where the problem comes from. This is largely down to how it's developed. Developers have influence on player behavior and I think Roblox developers know this more than most.
It would be cool if they made like an echo upgrade that could grant an extra chime skull or 2, since I doubt the devs would actually remove chime skulls.
The Undertale themes really put the message through with some of its sad themes and other emotional themes. Great music choice and keep up the good work!
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Being blunt, hearing "competitive" and "Roblox" in the same sentence is both an oxymoron and a bad omen.
exactly, roblox is so unoptimized to the point where its difficult to even bother making a serious competitive scene in a roblox game. Oh, and don't get me started on the shitty community this platform has.
Ping and servers alone invalidate any chance of a Roblox game becoming comp 😂😂😂😂
@@Joe-y9t3wone bajillion ping if you decide to live outside of the us
@@nexus8824 black magic 2 did it
@@flop69419 I usually have 50 ping in aus I thought that was really good 😅
The sad part about that first guy is that knowing the Deepwoken community, he probably wasn't lying about his playtime
He actually probably is. 8K hours is almost a year (it’s like 11 months)
@AnznbuzRaguef it was just a goof it was just a bunch of laughs why aren't you laughing
@@ToreCentipede you are not sane if you play a game for over 11 hours a day
@@ToreCentipededo u hear yourself or did u even watch the video? 8k hours, that’s 333 days straight of deepwoken. Playing even just 11 hours a day is over 2 years. Dude that’s more time than people spend sleeping or working. Don’t try to pull that “he’s just enjoying a game shit”
@@ToreCentipede playing a game 11 hours a day isnt even healthy
"There is no easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no friendly Deepwoken player!"
i've met multiple tbh. i've met alot more nice people that bad people that attacked me (voidwalker excluded)
@@jeffboy4231 same, I met some really chill dude back when I was a freshie, he didn't really help me progress but he didn't attack me despite probably being close to max
They sometimes get too competitive, and then that leads to toxicity.
Any pvp game is prone to toxicity. Think of it as a canon event, eventually someone is gonna yet mad over the game and start getting toxic
Smash bros in a nutshell.
No shit Sherlock
The origin of literally every toxic player ever
League of Legends basically
I swear if I see somone calling anyone a perma freshie unironically, calling somone a newgen, calling somone a mutt I will pretty much just try best I can to not interact with them, it usually just results in me swapping servers.
calling people mutt was so funny back in rogue 😭😭 up there in the ranks of the goofiest insults along with dogwater
personally i despise people like this but if the person you just dropped in a 1v1 is an asshole go for it
Someone"
Agreed. I never really understood where terms like that even came from. It really just seems like the (Let's be honest here...) kids or hardcore vets that are overly attached to a game just want a new insult to sling so they can stay on this pedestal they seem to think they're on. Just...kinda confusing.
@@mk__._bro mutt is the funniest insult i swear 😭
ddos is the only thing keeping eclipse from going broke 😭
stupid mfs are just throwing money at him
and its making him go insane
@@dagogogoch good i want keep them coming
Good laughs form idiots 😂😂😂
@@AgraelTheDemon i one time saw a guy wanting to put a bounty on eclipse's head ingame because of his voidwalker and chime opinions
@@dagogogoch bruh 💀
Eclipse living rent free in those PPL heads
"muh hard game" really is the deepwoken community mindset
both deepwoken and rogue lineage were advertized as difficult games, obviously the deepwoken community would like it to stay difficult.
@@DogGaming506Making a game more accessible to beginners does not affect the endgame much because the game just seems easier to you because you got better
@@DogGaming506 and does that make them better people? no. i get that you all want it to stay hard just like me as a Soulsborne player wants them to stay Hard too but doesnt make us better in anyway, which for all Deepwoken players i ran too say, that i suck cuz i dont like Deepwoken and they are better cuz they can play hard games
@@DogGaming506 But deepwoken isn't really difficult, it just requires knowledge and practice
@@DogGaming506 rogue lineage wasn't fun because it was difficult
The dumb thing is all the "comps" have a damn low ping (80 and lower), which gives them such a dumb advantage, that they just can only yap about. All these competitiveness comes from the large ego of a couple of guys who just want their "skills" to be acknowledged.
i see this exact thing happen too often, kids get a god complex over beating someone who probably has 3x the amount of ping as them
@@Тотсамый-х1ж8з most of them would also just have complete constant 60-120fps on medium-high settings, it's easy for them to talk shit cause the game is 100x easier for them.
its actually crazy how much of a difference there is with better fps and ping cause it doesnt feel like theres a big difference but there actually is i hit top 50 when i played on a better pc for a week 💀
@@Zawzeu exactly, when i got to play on a better PC for a little bit, i noticed that when playing FPS games, i can feel my aim getting better.
Even though this ping is a very good advantage, theres a whole lot of other things that can make someone skilled at the game. If you dont know what im talking about, watch a little SpidersDW or nogo.
"i hate you for using iron sing"when you have literally never used it is so funny, bro had to get traumatized by an iron sing user
he said he never used it on video it possible he used it off camera and killed that guy and he somehow found out he was eclipse then commented saying he hates him for using ironsing lol
@@Greatestswordsman69That’s quite the stretch. But why does it matter that he’s using ironing anyways. Ain’t flamechamr the most cringe attunement still after 3 years?
@JohnSmith-kx3nx there's a bunch of kids that just blame what other ppl use instead of their own skill so it's still possible
@JohnSmith-kx3nx to be fair iron sing can also be pretty annoying but so can every attunement except like thunder call, I don't think I've ever heard someone complain about that
@@glupigang1900I hear complaining about anything, the community really likes to do it
honestly the speech at the end of the video was so true and it just breaks my heart that some people have to be such mean people because "oh you're not good enough" or "oh you want money" when you literally NEED money and you don't have to be good to play a video game. sorry for the grammar being shit im sleepy af and lazy too
8k hours on a game like tf2 makes sense, maybe even an average amount of hours for a tf2 player. But 8k hours on Deepwoken has to be the LARGEST LIE known to man, or you genuinely have no brain activity other than using your keyboard and mouse.
tho I believe theres a lot pf tf2 players with 8k hours that is NOT an average amount for any game even tf2
TF2 players always seem to amaze me with how many hours they can have….
Bro is glued to the pc
The funny thing is, I've been quite active in the deep community
I've seen quite a few with 5k+ hours and that last was year
Tf2 has been out for significantly longer so while it’s shocking to see someone with that many hours in TF2 it’s not as unnerving as someone with the same amount on deepwoken.
Deepwoken feels like it's very foundation wishes to gatekeep you from it. Every single thing you do must be done with some sort of guide or you fail again and again and learn nothing until you quit. Dialogue is vague without reason. Bosses are often tucked away in tiny corners along with the echo talents. And I don't need to tell you that Voidwalkers exist solely to screw over people who don't know any better.
So true
needing to use a wiki is already annoying, but atleast you CAN use a wiki, meaning you can do smth about it. but with stuff like voidwalker there's not much to do if you are newbie.
not true at all
It’s like eclipse and his followers don’t understand that the game is supposed to fucking be hard if you need a tutorial go on UA-cam
i played it solo i had to freaking look for kaido for an hour in the void sea then i got ganbanged by two kaidos spawning near each other
unfortunate doesnt even begin to describe my deepwoken series this game rewards grouping and nothing else im beyond convinced at this point
Playing deepwoken for 11 hrs a day is insane 😭😭😭😭
Some mfs really be trying to flex the fact they wasted so much of their time.
Fr that's what they gon brag about at an interview 😂
Mf was playing for 11 hours a day since release and he still sucks lol
No school no job just 11 hours of fucking deepwoken how do you dedicate that much time of your life to a Roblox game,my man is on the grind to be the most useless member of society 😭😭😭
They said they play for more than 11 hours a day
Dont mess with us deepwoken fans we dont play our own game
But would HE beat goku tho (also dragon ball fans that have never seen the anime)
The opposite actually, deepwoken players play TOO MUCH.
it is the complete opposite.
8k hours of deep...i could smell the stench
I got nearly 4k hours on it im. Ot proud of that in the slightest
@@thedopesoap6620 hey, listen, ur better than a hoi4 player
green aura with flies
bro is rockin stench enchant irl 😭😭
No life king curse 😈😈😈
For those who don't know what exlipse is talking about at 14:25 (atleast from my point of view correct me if i'm wrong). Eclipse says that normally build shouldn't be the issue here because builds shouldn't be the main focus for pvp you need to have skill. For exemple, having a god build shouldn't make you instantly win the match so if you can't parry you'll still get destroyed in chimes/overworld pvp.
the only exception to this rule should be cheese builds, such as blinding frost builds that cover the screen in particles and any build with ironing (why tf can I get true stunned for several seconds during my own uppercut-fire blade-flaming scourge-judgement combo cus my foe pressed x💀)
Which he is simply wrong because a slightly worse player with a great build is much better than a guy with a terrible build with a great player.
@@alto5052 he's saying it shouldn't be like that
Hes saying thats shit balancing lmfao @@alto5052
Builds matter literally one of the things advertised before the fucking game released
2:14 I have about 120 hours into Deepwoken and I just started trying to learn PvP. I started fighting voidwalkers when I knew how to get up from the depths easily, and when I when I can get to level 20/the same level I was fairly quickly. Newbies first instinct is going to be "not dying" and not fighting when they get really punished from dying.
Same, I ended up protecting freshies and my friends so they can have a better progression by dedicating myself to learning the PVP of this game.
@@JaiDoesVideos killing power 5 voidwalkers as a max lvl to "protect freshies" doesnt make you better at the pvp
Across my 3 slots I have about 450 hours, and I still haven't learned shit about PvP cuz the entry level PvP doesn't exist. I haven't even gotten voidwalker yet because freshies ganking is wrong and I actually have morals and empathy (very rare for deep players ik)
@@DogGaming506 It's practice so it does
@@DogGaming506 never did i say that i was protecting them from voidwalkers, I was talking about freshie gankers. I obviously get my friends to turn off voidwalkers. Stop making assumptions.
People need to stop pushing newer players or bad players out of their community. There's nothing wrong with being bad at a video game and it pisses me off whenever I see some jackass go around telling all the new players and bad players to quit the game because for Deepwoken its actively killing the game. The game is already extremely beginner unfriendly and when you add people gatekeeping it on top of that the game is just gonna get no new players and just die because of these people, and that's sad because Deepwoken is actually a good game once you get past all the tutorials and competitive players.
deepwoken "pros" are the reason the game has lower numbers and not their prosumed "dry content"
pro's are so goddamn dumb, deepwoken has ALOT of content, just cuz you spent 8k hours on it doesn't mean the game doesn't have content.
@@jeffboy4231 i completely agree, if you drain a game out of all its content of course its gonna feel dry
Eatsports ruins games what can you do.
It's even sadder when you realize how often this happens with games even outside of Roblox "competitive games", like popular shooters, or...any game with any semblance of a ranking system. People seem to just brainwash themselves into thinking that because they've already mastered a game and its mechanics, they somehow have a right to judge whether or not someone just starting out is even "worthy" of playing, even though they used to BE that starting player. It's honestly crazy to me how people can seem to be so blind to the most basic shit just because they're in the mindset that they know everything and that everyone else is just a "bad player" in comparison. And when someone they think is bad humbles them, sound the fucking sirens because this "God tier player" mysteriously lost at a game somehow, and that can't POSSIBLY be right.
Why would anyone be proud of having 8000+ hours on a game anyway 💀
Some mf on CSGO have that much 😭
And i thought having 300+ hours on G&B was something. At least I have new games to mess around with after the July sale lmao
And not even on a really good mmo rpg that is the best of the best, they spent it on deepwoken
@@goodboi1725 I have 400 on GPO, 200 on YBA and 150 on Deepwoken 😭
@@Twodogs90 “yeah it’s not competitive because I don’t respect it”
the first guy saying "perfect casting is very important" is hilarious cause no one thats above 1k elo actually does that shit LOL
it mainly js explains what eureka does lol
perfect casting is needed to play base gale but "no one that's above 1k elo actually does it"
tbh perfect casting sucks ass and they should remove it
it doesn't get explained AT ALL the only way you really gonna find out it exists is through eureka and then reading the wiki, it's only another big factor that weighs higher ping people down, and it's way too hard to people to actually figure out at first
imo either remove it or make it ALOT more noticeable that you actually used it correctly. cuz atm i still never feel like i'm able to do it
LMAOOOO just read another comment that perfect casts (the mechanic itself, not the talents) doesn't work and they don't even wanna fix it lmaooooooooo
@@innerapathy mantra feinting is needed to play gale, and perfect casting is basically js a step on the way to mantra feinting which most ppl dont know is a thing cause it doesnt matter
1:34 The funniest part about this is perfect casting has since been confirmed multiple times by the devs to have just been purposefully broken for a while
It literally does nothing, and they, for someone so invested, should probably know this
is it rlly????
@@under_cal Arch confirmed way back in 2023 that perfect casting now does nothing and is never going to do anything again
It was circulated quite heavily in Deepwoken info
Wait, so do the pcast talents do anything?
@@Spoodlfarithey do
@@Spoodlfari THOSE do something, perfect casts themselves are broken and do nothing
I already commented this but, i went afk for a few minutes and some guy kills me in the depths and went out of his way to sleuth and find my discord ID just to say "ez kid, wiped yo ah blud, never try to deepbound prog in front of me" i respond with "don't you have anything better to do?" and blocked him. I've never messaged or done anything to anyone in this community so this was just first impressions of the community of the game i was playing.
ur fault for going afk in the depths lil bro
@@DreamifyUwUso it's their fault for another player deciding to be shitty?
@@somebadartist219 the dude going into his dms to shittalk him is wild but him getting killed for going afk in the depths is ABSOLUTELY his fault there is ZERO reason you should go afk in the PERMADEATH zone instead of just menu'ing/logging
that's a pretty shit thing for someone to do but man just don't go afk in the depths ever dude 😭
We can call this a learning experience
A very bitter, sour, untasteful learning experience
There are people who say "ez" after they LOSE.
Such a creature can only be found in Roblox.
i mean
it's funny though
at least in my opinion
They mean they are ez to beat
@@rascaltherascal it is, ironic
20:55 the "no one would ever play main game if chimes had no consequences" is an old mentality. it definitely was true back when the game released (everyone was garbo, winning games was easy so if there were no downsides im sure a lot of people woulda just chime dwelled like crazy) but now that the skill gap between players has increased dramatically chimes just isnt that fun anymore. so yeah, the mentality was valid for like the first few months of the game but now its just kinda dated.
9:15 the worst part about newer people having to get reputation to stop voidwalkers is that THERE IS an arbitrary requirement for new players to be able to be voidwalked, it's that they had to have reached power 15 once before, which, to me, just isn't enough of a requirement, since you can't just throw someone new to the voidwalker dogs after possibly not even reaching max power on a slot... i'd think you'd at least throw in a "have gotten bell" requirement or something...
It's only power 10, isn't it? It's even worse
i've done it now that i don't get attacked by voidwalkers now but it's still so dumb and if i was new i wouldn't be able to do it at a lower level, maybe at higher level (though by that point i'd be dead from a voidwalker lol)
Thats just a bandaid, you could get lucky by meeting someone and getting to power 15 with them. That doesnt mean that your skill level is so high you get into pvp fights every 5 minutes, you could still be a new player
Maverick doesn't even work, why did the guy with ass grammar recommend it for new players 😭
He's incapable of viewing things from different angles, linear vision, if you may, and thinks everyone is exactly identical to him.
ddos is like a masterfully crafted bowl... BUT.. this bowl is filled with random ingredients... degrading the bowls quality
oh no
you go fishing for things to put in the bowl
@@TheRoosterBucket can you please explain me the bowl lore of this channel i beg you 😭
i can't stop laughing every time i see "bowl" in the comment section💀
@@Mahiii778 WHOOPS I JUST SPILLED MY BOWL!!!
8000 hours is the equivalent of 333 days.
tf2 is 17 years old and the most tryhard veterans have 20k hours, while deepwoken released basically 4 years ago. mf probably has a poster surrounded by candles with the skull icons of the chime that he bows down to everyday for luck and prosperity in his chime fights
@@mridotprobably keeps a bucket under his desk so he can use the bathroom while playing too
@@mridotprobablythe game hasn't even been out for 3 years yet
@mridot9473 any game that's been out for 7+ years I wouldn't be surprised if someone had like 5k hours on it
@@3.-_7---_739 that’s not dedication, that’s a having a mental problem.
i love your dms being open all the time, you seem much more easier to get in contact with as a youtuber than most others of your size. Listening to your community is both a good content farm and also nice for the community itself lol
Cool video, haven't finished it yet though i wanted to comment on 5:10 as you say uppercut isnt useful in pve but its actually insanely good if you know how to use it. Uppercut into some specific mantras will allow you to stay above enemy hitboxes while still damaging them which is very useful to know. (can also be used to get out of stunlock sometimes) I know, minor nitpick but yeah
Yeah having that air time helps massively against certain encounters, bounders are probably the best example i can think of. Especially on wave 25 of deluvian
DDOS bait is when people make intentionally stupid comments to get responded to by eclipse
As dry as UA-cam is right now, I'm real happy to see a DDOS
What i don't understand about the first guy, why is he saying "well not everyone wants to do pve" while this is true, you HAVE to do pve to even get to level 20 TO pvp. The point of a beginners guide is to start you off, the very first thing you'd want people do to is actually GET level 20 making all pvp tips pointless since you aren't going to voluntarily pvping until you hit level 20. Also about him saying perfect casting is needed, it's completely useless unless you have talents for it.
you know, thing is a lot of these "veteran" players that complained about your tutorial probably used a tutorial to first get into deepwoken
Roblox's competitive community is a lost cause. Players will continue to be toxic towards eachother and ruin the experience for new players forever. I've accepted this reality already.
I honestly wasn't really interested in roblox competitive games, but I'm glad I finally see people talking about how utterly stupid the community of these games are.
It’s even dumber when the game is not meant to be competitive, yet losers turn it competitive and drive out all the casuals
Competitive roblox games are okay-ish (in my personal experience), the COMMUNITIES are TERRIBLEEEE- never join a comp roblox discord server.
+ Why does everyone get so toxic in the comp communities on roblox? No idea, I literally cannot think of it. Probably because they’re butthurt.
@@EditorSquare. it's because they're unsupervised children who have way too much time in their hands and has never gotten a beating from talking shit, i used to be in this spot as i found anyone who played casually as worthless and shouldn't play the game, now after having no unlimited internet for like a year, i learned that casuals make up a large chunk of a games playerbase.
@@EditorSquare.Sometimes, it just annoys them when the casual players complain about every single thing.
@@JohnLegend2906 you mean when casual players point out real problems with the game, mainly because they've seen and played other games that they can compare them to and they realize how much the game could be better if they solved them and also they aren't afraid to criticize their game
@@devnandannair2336 Those supposed "real problems" literally exist because the game is meant to be niche for a specific type of people. It's annoying having random dudes coming out of nowhere trying to change the core game that wasn't even meant for them. You can't just try jump into a competitive game and force it to be casual.
I had this video on in the background while playing a game and when I heard my username my heart SUNK.
I thought I was cooked 😭.
while i agree with ur sentiment eclipse, i must point out that blox fruit has an amazing competitive comunity that is full of only the most wholesome & helpful ppl ever !!!!
yeah cause 99% of the community is way too busy grinding for flashy shit
@@nexus8824 took the words out of my soul, deadass
@@waterdropplettm72 if you play blox fruits for like 1 minute, you realize that you have no way of actually getting the cool and flashy animations and the "amazing" combat veterans talk about unless you no-life the game for a few weeks lmao.
@nexus8824 even if you have max rank friends, codes and an active event it still takes an insane amount of time to even be mediocre.
@@LeatherNinja and i still CANNOT believe it even got in the roblox innovation awards, the game isn't innovative, it just rakes in roblox a fuck ton of cash, probably why shit like skibidi toilet tower defense got in the roblox "classic" event so easily.
the competitive aspect of roblox in general (not even deepwoken) really hurt me. i pretty much only play fighting games on roblox, which obviously has a lot of... aggression, to say the least. nothing short of just quitting the game can even save you from people who just want to target or endlessly harass. i bought deepwoken probably around a year ago. i dont think i have longer than a week playtime before i quit, simply because i was getting so annoyed at other players. its such a shame, because i love how much effort is put into deepwoken, and i really wish i could play it and enjoy it, but i know i'll just get annoyed repeatedly if i even boot it up.
also, insults like "permafreshie" and "mutt" (as i saw in some other comments) are entirely unjustified. making fun of people on a video game they're just trying to play for recreational purposes and enjoy is completely wrong. play how you want, but don't bring others down because you have an ego. it's disgusting that there's at least one or two people in these comments that would find ways to justify calling people those things simply because they're worse than they are.
Unmonitored impressionable children + massive ego boosting environment = tragedy
Caveat about the first dude. Idk what bro in your DMs is waffling about, but uppercuts are a super basic input everyone should learn. I think everyone should know the basic offensive inputs, like M1, uppercut, feint, crit
how hard could it be to read the controls
@@snajker6738 I haven’t touched the tutorial in awhile, but they should include every basic offensive and defensive option. Not everyone wants information out of game. They don’t even teach you to vent.
It’s as simple as teaching players these inputs.
Offensive Options: M1, Uppercut, Aerial, Running Attack, M1 Feint, Mantra, Mantra Feint
Defensive Options: Block, Parry, Roll, Roll Cancel, Vent
@snajker6738 where does the game teach you that? I haven't seen that tutorial ever in-game
@@EldritchEntityWithASmartphone yeah the tutorial kinda sucks, the tutorial is actually kinda worse than having to tutorial at all tbh.
new people that do the tutorial think that what they got taught is everything the game has to offer, so they don't even look at the controls cuz why would they need to?
meaning that the tutorial is most likely the reason most new players just don't know about venting lol
My take is that they should add some kind of advanced tutorial you can do by talking to an npc. Example: instead of just sparring the isle of vigils NPC he could give you a quick tutorial on the more advanced keybinds like uppercuts and feints at the same time as fighting you. (Vent should be in the basic tutorial tho PLEASE DEVS I KEEP SEEING NEW PLAYERS WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO "GARFIELD!!! You have tempo!!!!")
14:10 - Top 250 player here, I am honestly ashamed of myself that I did not get what you meant by "you dont know as much as you think you do"
AT THAT POINT.. IM STARTIN' TO THINK ITS TRUE..
I don't think Eclipse lost because of build, he was exploring a PVP gamemode, which take in mind, is full of the people that take this shit way too seriously, with limited fighting experience
But the fact I didnt have a SINGLE FREAKING CLUE as to what he was talking about when he said "'you'll live with having to sit there and go why did Eclipse say I dont know as much as I think I did" absolutely mindbroke me HAHAHAH
(Side note: i'm not calling Eclipse bad, I think he's actually doing really good to start from the videos ive been seein'
HELP IM A PVE PLAYER AND I STILL DONT KNOW
W rank was realllllll
Deepwoken “competitive” I was there I was on the leaderboard when that first came out.
It’s such a gate kept community of toxicity. A cest pool for weirdo’s that need too feel special by being better at a game that takes “skill”. It’s such a terrible system with a lot of terrible people.
Deepwoken treats mid level skill like America treats middle class
"Vote for Type Soul and Deepwoken for innovations award!" their community:
I've never played deepwoken but by the seems of it I'll never will.
12:00 with the races on deepwoken, they are almost completely irrelevant, having literal single digit changes most of the time and barely affect gameplay. And the races without the single digit changes usually have very niche uses such as celtor and boats or capras with campfires. hell the rarest race in the game literally just gives you a free glider lol.
The only real difference is in starting stats that people who absolutely minmax builds care about, and no one else.
Fr (masked dudes for the win (I forgor what that race is called))
@@vanillajellyfish even for minmaxxing it doesn't matter much, there will be those few points that don't matter where they go, and the shrine of order ignores the race points. meaning they don't really matter much even for minmaxxers
@@jeffboy4231 i bring it up because i see people on the deepwoken discord complain that they "can't do their build with a certain race because those 3 points of intelligence or whatever stat they don't want to invest in that the race has are wasted and prevents them from getting this super important talent or weapon point milestone to equip this weapon because they're 3 points short".
@@jeffboy4231 I've seen examples of people trying to use each and every single point to where you don't even want, say, Celtor's starting intelligence for a 0 intel build, since those points of intel leave them a few points short of exactly what they want, since it'd leave them unable to get a few certain talents or use a certain weapon, even with Shrine of Order being accounted for... (I don't agree with that sort of sentiment, for the record, but i see snough people complain about race starter points)
This is why I don’t touch Roblox PVP games all that often anymore. The ping and sweat needed to keep up with the pros can be demotivating at times.
Speaking of PVP games (that aren’t from Roblox), I should try getting into TF2 again at some point
to play devils advocate a bit here for the "8k hours" uppercut guy, flamecharm does have a good handful of talents and synergy with uppercuts and you did recommend flamecharm for trial of one angels. still a goofball but thats the one angle in which hes barely correct.
Trial of One angels lose to the art of MASHING guardbreaks
he also mentioned perfect casting which is pretty vital to playing the game correctly
@@DogGaming506only with its talents. Appearently straight up perfect casting doesn't do anything.
@@DogGaming506 perfect casting is essentially useless
@@thegoldenraysoftheglorious1180 It saves ether and does a bit more dmg, but you need an intel build for it to be worth it
4:32 I REFUSE to believe he openly admitted to have 8k+ hours on a single game, and also admits to playing 11+ hours every single day AND that is the ONLY game he plays.
stupidity isn't a disease but it sure is spreading fast
these videos are the funnies shit ever man, Deepwoken is like the new YBA for this channel and as someone who used your beginners guide, i like to say thank you for teaching about reps
Doors is just like my long lost father. Forgotten
True
Replaced even.
The idea of Doors is amazing but it was poorly executed and turned into a bullet hell game.
Not to speak about how it doesn't give a F about deaf people by making the whole game pure sound based.
@@PersonstuckinMichiganwhat deaf ppl even play roblox lil bro
@@gneu1527 wth are you talking abt???????? bullet hell????
These people are heavier than the 2024 BMW M5 😭🙏
Oh
My god.
I cannot stress how much more blissful my life has been since I quit competitive Roblox games.
I started playing Minecraft again, and I feel like I achieved some sort of spiritual awakening.
Ong bruh
That proves how soul killing competetive roblox is
as ex top 250 i heavily appreciate you talking negatively about chime most of these players that shit talked u are buns and will get 5 barred by an actually good decent, once ur around the deep community alot ur gonna see how big of an ego everybody has, even me 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Not too sure abut the obvious flaw eclipse. I personally when starting out ran that with vegiterian as my dumb ass saw the others as a death sentence.
I couldnt really see the difference when running obvious, i could still easly sneek attack enemies agro on you anyways after gripping and lastly some enemies dont get onshot by sneeks attacks or better yet dont get sneek attacked. imo run obvous if you know how to stay out of a line of sight and crouch.
When did you start out? Because it used to be bugged but it's not anymore
@@Ammiad i've been using obvious, it still does barely anything, it's absolutely a free point with manic
I just wanted to say I really loved the near the last section of the video, and I am glad you know your worth and how to utilize it to help other people more.
Roblox competitive communities suck…
Much like a very badly made bowl. These kinds of bowls never get anywhere and can’t hold anything inside, and are usually discarded/recycled in order to fabricate a superior bowl later on. I saw a man get shot in an alleyway yesterday. In order to make a good bowl you’d be advised to look for high-fired ceramic, which is more durable unlike earthenware ceramic.
What
@@gamerhurleybowls are an inside joke
@@favianbenedictwibowo3848 No, I was talking about the alleyway part.
gl on getting W rank would love to see it
16:50 eclipse goes insane, just like a bowl full of cracks that is about to break
No, more like a glass bowl formed improperly which will eventually burst from pressure, but it also has elegant designs that will make the mind wonder what it means.
@@ethancolbourne5908what is this channel bowl meme please explain so i can enjoy it too give me a bowl soup taste lore😢
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i honestly dislike going along with metas, when i play deepwoken (with long breaks) i usually do something not practical at all but fun in my opinion, like my last build was a high charmisma cook who also does some alchemy and maxing all the rep with the factions, was it awfull at fighting? yea, was it fun and fufilling traveling the sea, meeting people, cooking or makeing potions for them, talking with them, even playing instruments together? hell yea, in short, dont treat deepwoken as a fighting game, treat it as you like, if you are creative alot of stuff is possible :)
myyyy fucking god, this people. eclipse deserves some paid vacations.
its literally a curse and blessing of not bein ganked by voidwalkers, new players always gets them but when i want to fight them they never appear; if they do theyre actually new players trying to learn pvp and i feel bad man
I have 1500 hours in the game and I dont use uppercut and perfect casting, i dont use uppercut a lot, only sometimes
Ngl only time I'd ever go to use uppercut is when I'm running hivelord hubris
get off the game bro
@@goose5426 why would i, its fun
@@justagamer2091 yeah only heavy sometimes dagger
@@goose5426 1500 hours is only 2 months of playtime get of your high horse bro
That "Rules for thee, not for me!" line goes so hard lmao. I gotta take that one.
1:56 as dumb as the guy responding is uppercuts and perfect casting are easy and useful for beginners because itll help them learn to mix up and they can actually defend themselves when they get ganked, be that a voidwalker or a weirdo
appearently perfect casting doesnt actually do anything anymore aside from letting u feint the mantra and activate eureka
@@mano__diep1318 it makes the wind up slightly shorter also
Tbh I’ve seen uppercuts used in pve many times and beginner guides should be an introduction to both the pve and PvP of the game. Trying to call him stupid for saying he should include it was kinda dumb especially since right after that we see that eclipse agrees(then he doubles down by saying it wouldn’t be useful for them to know right after?) now I’ve been playing deep since release(not 8k hours though💀) and perfect casting ain’t allat as nobody does it including me
@@mano__diep1318 gale breath becomes like a million times better with perfect casting
@@onioncartel been using it for some time and fought against people with gale, that shit doesn't need perfect casting and never saw anyone ever use it lol
A lot of these guys seemed to miss that it was a guide and not an entire course on every aspect of deepwoken
Doing school and watching stupids. Great mix!
Watching school and doing stupids! Mix great.
Lol I still have summer vacation being in Canada is great
@@George-nx4in fr
@@George-nx4in summer school, want those extra credits!
@@ssoss15 Oh yea me too but mine is online
"I don't want to sit here and stupid all day"
-Eclipse 2024
oh wuggles, another hand-crafted bowl by eklpiss, how skibidi sigma guys
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
@@OrenMystery no, eklpiss makes amazing bowels.
Eclipse living rent free
WOOPS, I SPILLED MY BOWL!
eclipse i like your background, nice living room. its not made out of green right? 😨
Yeah ok ok.... But next blox fruit episode when?! 😢
I don't understand people that still ask for blox fruit videos. It's like pouring water over and over again into a bowl with a hole in it.
This joke has been used way too much, just like a bowl filled with water that is extremely stale. (i hope it is a joke atleast)
@@monkejom3989 More like a bowl whose fine ceramic coating has accumulated scratches that have dulled its appeal
never
To everyone asking yes.. it is a joke I know he doesn't want to fight 7 snowman.
However it would be interesting to see him shit on the entirety of the game, blox fruit has too many horrible stuff he might have a stroke so maybe it's better he stays away from it.
8:27 is exactly why I quit deepwoken. I had a lot of builds that all were wiped cause of voidwalkers jumping me.
DECAYING WINTER(Day 10)
No
That game is not good bro
@@p2c331 skill issue ong ong
Decaying winter is peak
eclipse would hate the game
Deepwoken was publicly released on December the 20th in 2021. We are in July the 19th in 2024. Thats about 943 days (i dont know when the dm's were sent, so we're being generous here). 943 days is about 22632 hours. If you divide 8000 hours with 22632 and multiply with 100, you get 35,3%. This man spent 1/3rd of this game being released playing it.
A.k.a more than 8 hours every day with no breaks
Hey Eclipse! I'm a DDOS enjoyer and I don't even watch your other videos beside some game reviews. Please keep making more of these as this keeps me laughing! (I mean crap I don't even know what the terms "permafreshie, autidact, chime etc." mean but holy is this funny) 😂
if he isnt lying about the 8k hours in that game, he would be playing the game for a whole entire year, no breaks, no going outside, no sunlight, full of gfuel and fat, probably has a discord kitten, and is the only game that he has ever played since then, you are out of your mind, playing only one game for a year is the most time consuming thing you can do, dont you get bored just playing the same shit over and over again?
worst part is the games only 2.5 years old bro 😭😭😭
@@under_cal brother would've playing that shit the day it came out or literally just last year, which doesn't make it any better
Voidwalker system would be better if everyone could be voidwalked regardless of rep but they dont grip, once they are knocked u get tped back and get the xp.
Also u may need skill to win at chime, but build's are really important too mainly in chime because most builds WILL be cheese..
im gay
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ok?
good for you!
omg
Me too
The first guy openly admitted to missing over half the game
Also as a player who mains silent heart heavy and starkindred uppercut are not needed and bro is babbling
not surprising
WHAT ABOUT ECLIPSE COMMUNITIES SUCK AND ECLIPSE SUCKS DIDJA EVER THINK ABOUT THAT ?????
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It's okay slurpy... Take your pills it's time for your nap
DDOS ALERT DDOS ALERT
No way you're serious
Think this is rage bait
Void walkers should go to eastern luminart after trial so that new players aren't their only targets
All of the people complaining about Eclipses beginners guide should try to make one, let’s see how it compares.
I never understand people that gatekeep games. If more people join you beloved game, won’t that just give the developers more incentive to continue to work on and improve the game?
Eclipse you should try out Attack on Titan: Freedom war. It's not like the other attack on titan games where you just sit and kill titans, it's a campaign game with permadeath where random people are selected as titan shifters(except for the warriors) and it plays through the attack on titan story all the way up to the Retake Arc. It's really fun and I play it with my friends often. The odm gear feels different from other attack on titan games, but it doesn't take long to get used to.
This guys gonna play 7 other different games before he even thinks about fw istg dude 😭
14:11 - Eclipse's *probably* talking about HAVING to use meta builds to not get dilacerated, locking you into a few specific builds that are constantly changing.
is your wife dead or deleted from every mirror world
@@funnehdennis dead
another thing about ragoozer
voidwalker used to need you to grip around 20 people, and the creation of this origin was mostly overseen by ragoozer (most likely)
in rogue lineage, there existed a mod shop where moderators (from jr to sr) could buy, edicts like blademaster (obtained through being ranked 1-10 in the world in khei with 250 grips) seer, healer, including an unreleased jester edict with timestop, an instant win button
they could also buy namechanges and more to get these points all you had to do was restore/ban players, there might be more things you could buy on the shop, but idk
there were also whitehats which were exploiters testing exploits on the game to test the anticheat. they could kill you and you would lose a life
10:58
Can I just say that these are some of the worst boons and flaw (not flaws) you can pick
Maverick does basically nothing since its exp bonus is so low
Autodidact is completely useless unless you want to speed up your prog by a minor margin
Obvious makes life much harder for you and makes it much easier for you to get jumped by monsters
The only decent suggestion here is Manic, since its insanity gain is not actually that big and it can actually be used as a boon for certain builds
I just wanna say something. I love PVE and that’s how I started Deepwoken, because I loved the PVE progression. I did in fact turn off voidwalkers but still ended up getting ganked by some random who is power 20 maxed out and dying in the depths to a squibbo. From there I got my friends into the game and I’ve basically dedicated myself to getting better at PVP so my friends can have a more enjoyable time playing Deep and they have had so much fun. Thank you for the Beginner’s Guide as it was extremely helpful for both me and my friends.
Something I’ve learned about most roblox communities is that they love to gatekeep. Game had a limited time event that rewarded something that isn’t a skin and actually impacts gameplay? Nah, they shouldn’t make it available because they like their rare exclusive. Very silly.
13:31 ngl it is hard. But only for new players, who ironically, are the people who need skulls the most because theyre the ones that die the most. Peak game design😂
I feel like he took the W rank personally. Expecting the W rank movie now
I like your positivity, also thanks a lot for the voidwalker tip...
Hey Eclipse! I’ve asked you in the past on reviewing the rogue-like Randomly Generated Droids. It uses old roblox mechanics and has a fun storyline to it Im almost positive you would enjoy if you tried it! Love the uploads pooks❤
I want to play a singleplayer version of deepwoken with no pvp and im willing to pay good money for it. I only care about exploring the game and finding cool lore and talking to npcs, with a slow pace relaxing pve grind fighting bandits and mudskippers I don't care for pvp combat at all and I wish I could just buy a private server completely unconnected to the main game so I can play by myself with absolutely nothing, zero of anything transferring over to the public game and being entirely localized and saved in the private server. I want to play deepwoken as a single player RPG.
Imo game devs should just focus on either pve or pvp when making games. If I want pvp, I look for pvp. If I want pve, I look for pve. I do not like going into a pve game to enjoy the story only to get ganked by players and have my experience ruined. Same for game devs. If you want a pve game, just focus difficulty scaling on pve. If you want a pvp game, just focus on skill based balancing on pvp. If you want both you need to account for difficulty scaling on pve while making sure the pvp side is still balanced and skill based which is gonna quickly burn you out and neither side of the community will be happy.
I think casual competitive is actually fun and healthy in roblox. Like a friendly race in an obby or something like Phighting. Or the many good FPS games roblox has now. People taking it super seriously is where the problem comes from. This is largely down to how it's developed. Developers have influence on player behavior and I think Roblox developers know this more than most.
It would be cool if they made like an echo upgrade that could grant an extra chime skull or 2, since I doubt the devs would actually remove chime skulls.
devs are stupid, they themselves just command out of the depths if they lose all skulls. they KNOW it's stupid but still let it exist
10:58 maverick does litteraly nothing except give you like a 15% exp gain while your playing solo
wth is this guy cooking
The Undertale themes really put the message through with some of its sad themes and other emotional themes. Great music choice and keep up the good work!
He listened 😢 I was hungry for DDOS I love you Eclipse!