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franz bullied reaves. if trade reaves to okc, boston, cavs, knicks he not starting because you don't know which version of him you're getting from him. REAVES IS A TRAFFIC CONE ON DEFENSE
You gotta admit that LA are better than last season but the way i see, its only a repetition from last year luck...perhaps a little improvement but not that much.
Aside from missed free throws, JJ also made a mistake on benching cam in the 4th qtr, we badly needed cam to defend wagner coz he is cooking both DLO and AR offensively.
The real prob was what it almost always is. We do not rebounf the fucking ball. Pay attn to what happens in the first 3 qtrs. Not just the final minutes
a lot of self-compounding factors that lead to the Lakers own implosion and loss throughout the game and especially down the stretch. U know damn well JJ is going to be hammering free throws every practice hearing how he goes into his dark basement after losses to watch film. Games like this happen to every NBA team throughout the season, but it's how the team now responds to this low point which I got faith in this Lakers squad
@@QUEReacts bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
JJ letting AD and LBJ get fouled at the end was a risk as they are both only OK free throw shooters. AR is usually the choice but he was just 2 for 5 at the line that night which is bad. JJ could have taken a chance on Dalton but he’s a rookie. That leaves Dlo. In hindsight Dlo should have been picked to go to the line at the end.
I love Austin Reaves but not only did he miss 2 free throws in a row but I was so mad when he got a technical foul, giving the magic 1 extra point in a game where the lakers lost by 1. 🤦🏾♂️ Also if Gabe Vincent has 2 points we probably win 😅
Its crazy to me how Vincent played 14 whole minutes in a basketball game and had all 0’s for stats, except for 2 fouls. Im not a hater but damn thats crazy to me
Not just AD missing free throws, but not committing on Rebounding overall just killed us. Lebron can't be the only one looking to Rebound every dam game. Get us a strategic trade and we can compete, also what's going on with DLo? Smh on him.
it was sad asf seeing how Lebron at age basically 40 is having to outjump 3 other magic players to grab boards almost every possession. that's where people like Vando would be amazing in games like this
Reaves is a starter playing 32+ minutes, Dlo is coming of the bench averaging like 22mins now, he been focusing on helping the other guys perform... you mentioning Dlo before AR like AR isn't the one who should be held more accountable.
@@jarrettnunez9817 bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
Right, that CANT have been the play JJ drew up. He shot that like it was only 1 second on the clock smh. Definitely was enough time to get a better quality shot!
@@travisjackson1373I think they drew up that play to have ad take the last shot since he clanked so bad at the free throw line. Should have been lebron!
@@woodpecker7747 bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
Except Lebron spent too much time on the block taking AD’s place and being extremely inefficient with his shots down there. A reason Bron and Reaves were both s minus 8
bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
AR needs to stop lifting those damn golf clubs and get in that weight room. D-lo and AR needs that in their training. DK will be better and stronger next year because he is that type of player that always will seek to improve. Reaves is to damn soft and needs to get stronger.
@@lloydave189 Austin Reaves 18 ppg this season so nobody cares about yo excuses that LeBum James and Anthony Davis a WASHED up duo who's not good enough to lead a team to championship anymore 🤣🤣🤣
Team loss. AR's missed FTs were a bad sign. AR's the team pet, Dlo's the scapegoat, both lousy defenders, last night lousy shooters (6-22, 2-11.) Non-existent bench. Lack of seriousness at the FT line. Lakers frequently exhibit overconfidence in games -- for no reason at all. AD's the only consistent two-way player on the team. Give Cam more minutes -- he plays defense, he shot well, he's doing what they ask. DK a bright spot. Bron got monster rebounds and he and AD played their asses off -- except at the line. Big bummer loss.
Dlo's confidence is gone. A rookie is starting over him now. He's a shell of himself. I know people are focusing on the free throws. Dlo had so many air balls last night. Maybe he's trying not to get traded, so intentionally playing bad.
Facts...people are focusing too much on the free-throws and forgetting the fact that Dlo was literally doing nothing on the court. When they went up 10 in the fourth i expected JJ to bench Dlo and bring reddish to protect the lead. JJ let the team down by playing Dlo and Reaves together for so long in the fourth. They kept targeting Dlo on offense.
Here's the thing about Dlo yes his confidence is gone but also his rhythm. There's a world of difference between being a number one option or number 2 say. Or being a 3rd 4th and 5th option. Kyle Kuzma showed us this when LeBron or AD was out he'd always score well. Thats the thing though the Lakers have no tried and true role players that can be the last option even and still hit a shot when they need to. Not so easy.
pfft rebound the fucking ball instead of bleeding 2nd chance pts like a heavy flow bitch on the rag all game and those FTs would not matter. Just like Denver always shooting lights out in the final mins would not have mattered if our defensive rebounding was even AVERAGE
Front Office shares part of the blame for not making any moves to help one of the weakest benches in the NBA. AD should make his FT but he put up enough for a win if DLo, Max, and Gabe actually did something.
@@knache3870 our bench is bottom 3 and not productive. AD and Bron drop 70 with a rookie being the 3 scorer means a trade should happen. JHS, Gabe, Max, Dlo, Lewis, Vando, and Wood can go for anything useful.
JJ's lineups sucked last night. Koloko doesn't play enough, watching this team get killed on the glass you wonder why he doesn't play more minutes. 7 point lead with 3:00 minutes left and he literally had Gabe, Max and Dlo out there together. Yes the free throws cost them the game, but those lineups were unproductive for a great majority of the game. This fell on coaching.
@@newnormal9237 He didn't let them...We (AR, LBJ,AD) went 2/8 on free throws...You can't blame a coach for that! JJ put them in a position to win and Orlando wanted it more than our guys.
@@LakerTriangle it's the coach! We wouldn't be discussing free throws right now if JJ's mentality was always about dominating the opponent and not being complacent. It's because JJ himself has expressed that he doesn't like the NBA culture of running up the score against losing teams. If they lead by 10 points, do you think free throw matters?
@@newnormal9237 Only 3 players were having a good offensive night: AD, LBJ, DK4...How we gonna run up the score when Dlo, Gabe, Max combine for 12pts and AR had 9pts? JJ not responsible for having a crap bench and injured players - he's actually over performed with what he has to work with. I'm sure you were right there with all the others predicting we would have a losing record at this point in the schedule - but we don't thanks to JJ.
They desperately need a point....w/Dalton @ the 2, that's the future.......AR can't cover 2 guards, can't take the game over, can't drive without flopping......regardless of stats, dude will never be elite.
Wholeheartedly agree that Reddish needs more minutes. If Vando is out indefinitely, Reddish should get the same minutes as Vando would if healthy. Cardio Gabe is giving us absolutely nothing so it makes no sense for Reddish's minutes to be that low, irrespective of the 4 vs 5 offense. For that matter Christie should see more time too. Phase out Cardio Gabe.
JJ need to stop deluding himself. D'lo isn't good. Reaves isn't a starter shooting 3 of 12. JJ should not relax with these role players. Once you pour them with accolades, they screw up. Reaves shot 23 percent while ball hugging, not involving knecht. Getting tech for being selfish. We need to be honest, Reaves isn't a starter.
Suggs, da Silva, and Mo Wagner has season high in pts. Franz had season high in assists. Giga had season high in rebounds. Every night is a game 7 against the lakers.
Cam wasn't the issue - Franz was just ballin hard! This on the weak bench (and Front Office) for not helping when AD, Bron, DK4, and Cam have a good game. Yes we need to hit FT but it shouldn't have been that close.
We can keep it simple. If Gabe gets you 4pts we win. If Vando or Wood can play.. we win. If Max Lewis or JHS could make the roster as 2nd year players… we win. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Shack couldn't hit a layup free throw and nobody criticized him. They took him out late in close games! 39 pts Lebron 31 pts--somebody else didn't do it. Kneck had 17 pts. That bench needs a serious upgrade!
Team can’t coast. They get up and start taking heat check shots and playing outside good basketball. It’s a bad look. New NBA you simply can’t do that. Leads evaporate in seconds.
The fact nearly 40 year old LeBron has lead the lakers in rebound like 4 of the last 6 games or something like that is embarrassing. This is on Pelinka for so many diff reasons. He gave away Zubac for no reason in 18-19 season and he’s one of the best rebounders per minute in the NBA (3rd in the NBA period at 12.4 per game along with 15-16 PPG, 2-3 APG, and nearly 2 stocks per game). Also let Jay Huff and Pippen Jr walk who avg nearly 7 RBG this year for Memphis in 38 mpg combined. Also let Caruso walk for no reason (which kills their perimeter defense). Also low balled DeRozan yrs wise just like Ty Lue in 2019 and Caruso in 2021. Also didn’t trade 27/29 firsts and Westbrook for Turner & Hield (or 27/29 1s + Reaves for Kyrie at 2023 deadline). Also passed on Jaquez Jr and Trayce Jackson Davis at 17/40 in 2023 draft who help rebounding as well! TJD averages 5.1 RBG for Warriors in only 17 mpg! Jaquez jr this year averaging 6 RBG in 23 mpg!
BUT WHAT YOU FAIL TO MENTION IS THAT YES YOU ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE LAKER PLAYERS THAT ARE HURT, HOWEVER, THAT IS LITERALLY HALF OF THEIR TEAM OF SOLID ROLE PLAYERS. WHO CARES THAT THEY ARENT PALO RANCHERO OR CALDWELL POPE, THATS 2 PLAYERS TO 4!
This game shows you how much we need size out there, need healty vando and a healty wood when lagg offensively wood always responded last year i think he's a huge factor
Get ready to watch Reaves get abused against Denver,he's a horrendous defender.Why does he always sink in the lane leaving shooters,he's not taking a charge or blocking anyone shot
I disagree vehemently, that’s dumb nobody likes getting blown out, in a close loss, no matter how heartbreaking, you can always look at some of the good things and improve and the bad things, when you get blown out you just throw it away
The magic are good but getting blown out at home by this magic team would mean the Lakers have bigger problems than they already do. And I’d be worried
getting blown out maybe feels better in the moment, but the long term issues it'll bring up are FAR WORSE then a close loss against one of the best defenses in the NBA. It's never great to lose like this, but you take this any day over a blowout lmao
Have you been watching any of the lakers games this year. Austin has only had 3 good games this season. He may be averaging 17-18 pts a game but it's taking him 17-18 shots to get there. As long as Austin is a starter, the lakers not winning anything. As long as he is on the floor in the final minutes of close games , they will lose more than they win because he can't guard a stop sign. Your friendship with Austin is compromising your integrity as an analyst.
bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
@lakersnation Forget acknowledging he had a bad game. Acknowledge he shouldn't be starting. Austin is trash defensively. An offensively he's not a starting level gaurd. He not better then Lonnie Walker tbh or Malik Monk. But ur QUICK to sepak for the Lakers mentioning "lakers won't give up Reaves unless it's for a allstar" STOP Reaves trash & he was trash last yr. Yall hype any white player that simply gives "effort". Reaves not better then any of the main role players we've traded. KCP, CARUSO, KUZ etc. Traded him NOW while he has some value. Konnect & Cam should start for now. The trade we need is DLo & Hayes +1st to Toronto for center J Poteli. Then Austin, Gabe & JHS a 2nd & pic swap to Brooklyn for Schrooder & DFS.. Starting lineup of DFS,Konnect or Vando/cam, Rui, Bron AD. Bench of Schrooder, J Poteli & Konnect or Vando. 9th man Max or Wood.. Have we not learned anything from Vogel? SIZE & DEFENSIVE wins championships
@@Tony-n4e8v thank you 🙏🏽 I really don’t understand this obsession with Austin Reeves man it’s like they think he’s Luka or something he not even better than Anthony Simons from the blazers and they trash
1. missing 9 free throws & losing by 1 is unacceptable. 2. why was AD shooting a fadeaway for game ?? 3. i said it after the suns loss & i’ll say it again, this team WILL NOT go far if they don’t address the lack of scoring from the bench. you cannot have your starters playing almost 40 minutes a night early in the season
In my opinion this was a very bad loss. Orlando loses to Clippers the night before and the Lakers can't beat Orlando who's on a back to back of a long west coast trip. No excuses for this loss.
the worst part is that Orlando are the worst in 3 point percentage but last night they turned into GSW...lol. Teams really go all out when they face lakers
@@wyckyodongo5670we also missing paolo/ WCJ but on the bright side Franz has been playing out of his mind and our defense has been on if the best in the league so far (yes ik it’s still early in the season)
Practice your free throws every game and this won’t happen again . The Lakers gave away the game by missing 8 free throws when the game was almost over . I f there is any body to blame. It is themselves
Bad coaching last night, Austin literally gave zero on both ends of the floor while cam played acceptable. I felt Austin should’ve been out the game after half time, he didn’t even do nothing in the second, kept gunning not even looking DK’s way. Austin just kept driving n missing he really can be traded n DK can take his spot as long as we can get a guard that can pass, Austin doesn’t have a real guard IQ and all he does is forces shots up even if he’s in a slump.
@ yea u would’ve been a bad coach as well last night, u don’t force a guy that’s giving u zero on both end of the floor over a guy that’s playing better that night, yes the free throws but wat about before the free throws? The game was never supposed to be that close. You’re a guy that only thinks for the moment, and that’s ok, that’s why you’re not a coach right? 🥚actly
Bench scoring is horrid. Rebounding is horrid. In any given night AR OR Dlo play poorly. Missed free throws wouldn’t be significant if these other issues were resolved. Still could have won comfortably if rebounding and bench production was there.
We learned that JJ Ham and his coaching staff are still clueless about defense so the Lakers couldn't get stops the entire game. His decision to give AD the last shot after he missed 3 free throws was abysmal; it should've been LBJ or even the rookie Dalton. AR and Dlo are a horrible backcourt, they should be coming from the bench or even better Lakers need to trade them + Max + Rui + Vanderbilt (who never plays anyway) + Gabe for a real big but no one wants them!
Benching Dlo killed his confidence. Reaves should be the 6th man of this team because he's a worse ball handler and shooter than Dlo. When Rui gets back he should be with the 2nd unit with Austin. Starters should be Dlo Knecht Reddish James Davis. Perfect mix of shooting, scoring, ball handling, play making and defense
DLO been cautious to shoot cause he knows if he take a wild shot or miss he will come out immediately. Not giving him any type of room for error like there is for AR & others have then any loss it’s immediately blamed on him so right he’s not even comfortable
@@azboydfamily6251 no excuses - we seen it before when he thought he was gonna get traded. Too inconsistent for what he's paid and it's time for him to be traded again!
Still hurting from this lost. What do you think about this Trev. Foul down 2 with more time on the clock get them to the line, worst case they tie it we have more time to make a shot n or they foul us different ball game we miss overtime.
Austin wasn’t getting any calls and he let it get to him. He’ll bounce back. Dlo im not so confident about. AD just cant miss both of those fts at the end. That was bad. But he’s having an unbelievable start to this season so I’m not going all negative on him. This type of loss happens to every team. Just take out Denver and this game will be overlooked. If not this game will look like a spiraling moment.
Pelinka DO YOUR JOB! We could have already got Lavine and opened up a roster spot. We only gonna roll with 8 people in the playoffs so get the best 8 we can and let’s go
Tell yo boy friend LeBum James to do his job and close games out losing to Nuggets 119-118 over Lakers and stop worrying about players from other teams
With how the flow of the game was DK shoulda got more shot 4th qt, and cam shoulda been utilized more offensively due to the proficiency he showed and of course defense
Funny stat that no one has really talked about unless I missed it … Cam Reddish is shooting 63.6% from 3?! This is probably the most shocking stat on the Lakers this year… When he shoot’s he looks confident… It will be interesting to see if this is real… Of course he won’t finish with that percentage…
LeBum James the problem he ruined Lakers when he wanted Russell Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony his buddy and getting rid of Caldwell Pope and Kyle Kuzma and Lakers 33-49 losing record got Frank Vogel fired
AR need to get traded! He’s forcing everything! He also tries to play for a foul everytime he get close to the basket! We need to trade him before he gets exposed! It’s like he’s trying to prove that he’s better than Dalton! It’s not even close!
We lost because AD and Bron need HELP. We need a trade!!!! Get Lavine at NO draft capital then package the picks and get Kessler for JHS and whatever it takes!!!!
LeBron and Anthony Davis missed playoffs 33-49 losing record with Russell Westbrook, Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard 3 hall of fame teammates 2021-2022 and got Frank Vogel fired
I’m putting this one on JJ. We needed rebounding and Koloko only played about 10 minutes. It shouldn’t have come down to free throws to decide the game.
Magic have a lot of Length and They played Super Physical however, We had: 1) Poor FT Shooting - 65% 2) Low Bench Scoring - 14Pts and 3) Poor Shooting from AR & D’Lo!!! We need 15+ each from D’Lo & AR and Cam should’ve played more minutes and D’Lo/MaxC less minutes down The Stretch.
Yes missed FT cost the game. But the game shouldn’t have been that close. They didn’t have Banquero and were on a back to back, losing to Clips. Big picture: Lakers give up WAY too many points. Team defense is terrible. Near bottom of league. This is a .500 team after the road trip, unless something major changes on defense.
Austin Reaves has been streaky all season and even in his high scoring games it's taking him 17+ shots. He is a liability defensively and he plays erratic offensively sometimes. He should be benched. It'll help him in the long run and the team. Dk, rui, reddish, bron and AD can be starters.
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franz bullied reaves. if trade reaves to okc, boston, cavs, knicks he not starting because you don't know which version of him you're getting from him. REAVES IS A TRAFFIC CONE ON DEFENSE
one night reaves shows up the next night he plays horrible
We learned AD is not an MVP He flop in a clutch moment.
You gotta admit that LA are better than last season but the way i see, its only a repetition from last year luck...perhaps a little improvement but not that much.
Trevor Dlo is playing like he doesnt want to get traded. if he is a low trade value he wont be wanted, hell then be able to stay a Laker.
Aside from missed free throws, JJ also made a mistake on benching cam in the 4th qtr, we badly needed cam to defend wagner coz he is cooking both DLO and AR offensively.
agreed, i was asking "where's cam" at the beginning of the 4th quarter
100% facts cam should've played that whole 4th not the last couple possessions
The real prob was what it almost always is. We do not rebounf the fucking ball. Pay attn to what happens in the first 3 qtrs. Not just the final minutes
If not mistaken, announcers (Bill & Stu)said the same thing about Cam.
DLo and AR both shot terribly - the loss is on them.
Bring in Olivari and send Gabe Vincent to the G-League at this point.
Send him off with Darvin Ham for that matter. Lol
@ easily could have been giving those minutes to Bronny
Yall just look at stats. Gabe has the most hustle on this team.
@@akaliotp6766Give me his salary and I'll put the same numbers which is zero across the board and watch me play my life on the line.
Him , Woods and VANDO!!!!
Honestly that game shouldn’t of been close, we should of won by 8-10 points at least smh
a lot of self-compounding factors that lead to the Lakers own implosion and loss throughout the game and especially down the stretch. U know damn well JJ is going to be hammering free throws every practice hearing how he goes into his dark basement after losses to watch film. Games like this happen to every NBA team throughout the season, but it's how the team now responds to this low point which I got faith in this Lakers squad
When we take lead the bigs go sit on bench and the lead evaporates.
@@QUEReacts bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
JJ letting AD and LBJ get fouled at the end was a risk as they are both only OK free throw shooters.
AR is usually the choice but he was just 2 for 5 at the line that night which is bad.
JJ could have taken a chance on Dalton but he’s a rookie.
That leaves Dlo. In hindsight Dlo should have been picked to go to the line at the end.
@ he should have took that chance on DK he a rookie that can shoot
I understand splitting free throws, but missing two straight like AD did is inexcusable. He missed 3 out of 4 in the last 20 seconds 😮
I love Austin Reaves but not only did he miss 2 free throws in a row but I was so mad when he got a technical foul, giving the magic 1 extra point in a game where the lakers lost by 1. 🤦🏾♂️
Also if Gabe Vincent has 2 points we probably win 😅
Its crazy to me how Vincent played 14 whole minutes in a basketball game and had all 0’s for stats, except for 2 fouls. Im not a hater but damn thats crazy to me
NOW I'M EVEN MORE PISSED AT AUSTIN! 😡😡😡😡😡
Olivari is cat quick. He needs to get some time on this very slow team.
Smh that was such a tough heartbreak loss 😭💔
Facts I'm a huge Lakers fan but I'm from Orlando I can't stand the magic
True but we gotta let it go and wait 3 months for revenge hopefully the next the we beat the magic
AR was trash 🗑️.
Forcing shots, repeatedly getting exploited on defense. Dude just looked bad.
Not just AD missing free throws, but not committing on Rebounding overall just killed us. Lebron can't be the only one looking to Rebound every dam game. Get us a strategic trade and we can compete, also what's going on with DLo? Smh on him.
it was sad asf seeing how Lebron at age basically 40 is having to outjump 3 other magic players to grab boards almost every possession. that's where people like Vando would be amazing in games like this
Reaves is a starter playing 32+ minutes, Dlo is coming of the bench averaging like 22mins now, he been focusing on helping the other guys perform... you mentioning Dlo before AR like AR isn't the one who should be held more accountable.
D'lo was more efficient than Reaves who got a tech for whining.
Bro get off Dlos nutts. He’s on the bench now and playing 22 minutes. It’s not on him anymore.
@@jarrettnunez9817 bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
Austin should’ve focused on rebounds and assist. He had a terrible game shooting too much. PASS IT if you’re having an off night.
I’m over Austin!
Waiting for Jarred Vanderbilt is like "Waiting for Godot".
Call him dial up because he's still loading. 😅 waiting on the real Gabe Vincent as well.
Who is Jerrald by the way??😊
right, how are we to belive that vando is gonna be his past self
@@dracowuhan7536 Who was his past? He was a bench player.
What was that last shot with 2.5 left on the clock. That's what I don't understand!
Right, that CANT have been the play JJ drew up. He shot that like it was only 1 second on the clock smh. Definitely was enough time to get a better quality shot!
@MikeBoss303 Why LeBron was not involved in the last play? He was all the way on the other side of the court
@@travisjackson1373I think they drew up that play to have ad take the last shot since he clanked so bad at the free throw line. Should have been lebron!
@scarmvp That's not AD game
We missed 9 free throws! And why can’t Knecht get a pass in the last 5 mins?????
I was very upset with that game why they miss so many free throws I couldn't believe it they need to work on free throws in practice
@@woodpecker7747 bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
Except Lebron spent too much time on the block taking AD’s place and being extremely inefficient with his shots down there. A reason Bron and Reaves were both s minus 8
AR isn't him. This hype really ruined his growth. That isn't good enough. Time to move him while he still has value
bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
AR needs to stop lifting those damn golf clubs and get in that weight room. D-lo and AR needs that in their training. DK will be better and stronger next year because he is that type of player that always will seek to improve. Reaves is to damn soft and needs to get stronger.
@@ricddewbe54 bro I’m convinced AR and D Lo are fucking and d lo hate the fact that jj split them up
@@lloydave189
Austin Reaves 18 ppg this season so nobody cares about yo excuses that LeBum James and Anthony Davis a WASHED up duo who's not good enough to lead a team to championship anymore 🤣🤣🤣
@@lloydave189
No help yet LeBum James and Anthony Davis got good role players Austin Reaves, Dalton Knecht, Rui Hachimara, D'angelo Russell etc 😂🤡
We’re screwed when our top 3 miss 8 free throws in the same game!
Just put Quincy in for Gabe he’s not giving you anything at least Quincy will shoot the ball
AND D UP
Team loss. AR's missed FTs were a bad sign. AR's the team pet, Dlo's the scapegoat, both lousy defenders, last night lousy shooters (6-22, 2-11.) Non-existent bench. Lack of seriousness at the FT line. Lakers frequently exhibit overconfidence in games -- for no reason at all. AD's the only consistent two-way player on the team. Give Cam more minutes -- he plays defense, he shot well, he's doing what they ask. DK a bright spot. Bron got monster rebounds and he and AD played their asses off -- except at the line. Big bummer loss.
Dlo's confidence is gone. A rookie is starting over him now. He's a shell of himself. I know people are focusing on the free throws. Dlo had so many air balls last night. Maybe he's trying not to get traded, so intentionally playing bad.
Facts...people are focusing too much on the free-throws and forgetting the fact that Dlo was literally doing nothing on the court. When they went up 10 in the fourth i expected JJ to bench Dlo and bring reddish to protect the lead. JJ let the team down by playing Dlo and Reaves together for so long in the fourth. They kept targeting Dlo on offense.
Here's the thing about Dlo yes his confidence is gone but also his rhythm. There's a world of difference between being a number one option or number 2 say. Or being a 3rd 4th and 5th option. Kyle Kuzma showed us this when LeBron or AD was out he'd always score well. Thats the thing though the Lakers have no tried and true role players that can be the last option even and still hit a shot when they need to. Not so easy.
@@ThrifterGuy That's a very good point.
Make your free throws
Win the game.
Nothing more to add there . Major get back opportunity vs DEN Saturday 💪🏽
Denver is missing Aaron Gordon, but we are missing a lot of key pieces!!
Denver will still dominate lakers and jokic will be right back in time to play
pfft
rebound the fucking ball instead of bleeding 2nd chance pts like a heavy flow bitch on the rag all game and those FTs would not matter. Just like Denver always shooting lights out in the final mins would not have mattered if our defensive rebounding was even AVERAGE
Front Office shares part of the blame for not making any moves to help one of the weakest benches in the NBA. AD should make his FT but he put up enough for a win if DLo, Max, and Gabe actually did something.
AR as well, I think Max played his role decent. We can’t expect Max to put up a ton of points. Gabe and Dlo for sure though.
We should try Olivari over Gabe.
Can't blame front office on this one! This on the players and coach. Should've won this game with the team we have smh!
yeah Olivari over Gabe agreed.
@@knache3870 our bench is bottom 3 and not productive. AD and Bron drop 70 with a rookie being the 3 scorer means a trade should happen. JHS, Gabe, Max, Dlo, Lewis, Vando, and Wood can go for anything useful.
Dlo confidence dropped since getting bench. And Austin knows dalton taking his spotlight (as he should!)
JJ's lineups sucked last night. Koloko doesn't play enough, watching this team get killed on the glass you wonder why he doesn't play more minutes. 7 point lead with 3:00 minutes left and he literally had Gabe, Max and Dlo out there together. Yes the free throws cost them the game, but those lineups were unproductive for a great majority of the game. This fell on coaching.
Naw - the bench needs to do better AND the front office needs to make some moves to improve it.
It's definitely coaching! Knect is not the rookie, it's the coach! He let the Magic get back on the last 3mins.
@@newnormal9237 He didn't let them...We (AR, LBJ,AD) went 2/8 on free throws...You can't blame a coach for that! JJ put them in a position to win and Orlando wanted it more than our guys.
@@LakerTriangle it's the coach! We wouldn't be discussing free throws right now if JJ's mentality was always about dominating the opponent and not being complacent. It's because JJ himself has expressed that he doesn't like the NBA culture of running up the score against losing teams. If they lead by 10 points, do you think free throw matters?
@@newnormal9237 Only 3 players were having a good offensive night: AD, LBJ, DK4...How we gonna run up the score when Dlo, Gabe, Max combine for 12pts and AR had 9pts? JJ not responsible for having a crap bench and injured players - he's actually over performed with what he has to work with. I'm sure you were right there with all the others predicting we would have a losing record at this point in the schedule - but we don't thanks to JJ.
Losing is fine. But not like this. In the West, you can NOT just give away wins like this.
They desperately need a point....w/Dalton @ the 2, that's the future.......AR can't cover 2 guards, can't take the game over, can't drive without flopping......regardless of stats, dude will never be elite.
He's a plant. He has always been mid. Just hyped by the media
Wholeheartedly agree that Reddish needs more minutes. If Vando is out indefinitely, Reddish should get the same minutes as Vando would if healthy. Cardio Gabe is giving us absolutely nothing so it makes no sense for Reddish's minutes to be that low, irrespective of the 4 vs 5 offense. For that matter Christie should see more time too. Phase out Cardio Gabe.
Cam should have been in the game I think JJ knows he messed up
JJ need to stop deluding himself. D'lo isn't good. Reaves isn't a starter shooting 3 of 12. JJ should not relax with these role players. Once you pour them with accolades, they screw up.
Reaves shot 23 percent while ball hugging, not involving knecht. Getting tech for being selfish. We need to be honest, Reaves isn't a starter.
Reported for being a dumbass
Air balls are misses from Dlo just like bricks from Reeves with more minutes and more shot attempts.
Suggs, da Silva, and Mo Wagner has season high in pts.
Franz had season high in assists.
Giga had season high in rebounds.
Every night is a game 7 against the lakers.
Suggs and da Silva did not have their season high in points last night. Mo did, though.
Reeves missed 2 free throws back to back. 9 points can't play defense!
Missed FTs and Cam should’ve put more ball pressure on Franz for that game winning three; you jus can’t let him get that shot off to take the lead
They shouldn’t of took cam out of the game for that long no reason for reaves and dlo to be closing the quarter of a close game
Cam wasn't the issue - Franz was just ballin hard! This on the weak bench (and Front Office) for not helping when AD, Bron, DK4, and Cam have a good game. Yes we need to hit FT but it shouldn't have been that close.
Agree both guards at the same time, when both are shooting bad spells disaster.@@samuelpetit6183
We can keep it simple. If Gabe gets you 4pts we win. If Vando or Wood can play.. we win. If Max Lewis or JHS could make the roster as 2nd year players… we win. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Missed FT by AD doesn't defined his overall contributions.
Shack couldn't hit a layup free throw and nobody criticized him. They took him out late in close games! 39 pts Lebron 31 pts--somebody else didn't do it. Kneck had 17 pts.
That bench needs a serious upgrade!
I hope JJ starts forcing everyone to practice free throws, we were so close to winning that one… 💔
Ya, especially Austin. 2 for 5? For a guard?
Dalton makes the AR and DLo trades easier
Trevor, you wanted to trade Dennis Schroeder when he was here. I always advocated for him and now you see.
Team can’t coast. They get up and start taking heat check shots and playing outside good basketball. It’s a bad look. New NBA you simply can’t do that. Leads evaporate in seconds.
You don't need 30 mins to explain WHY it happened
it's DEFENSIVE rebounding
Literally the easiest fix in all of professional sports for 3 years now
The fact nearly 40 year old LeBron has lead the lakers in rebound like 4 of the last 6 games or something like that is embarrassing.
This is on Pelinka for so many diff reasons.
He gave away Zubac for no reason in 18-19 season and he’s one of the best rebounders per minute in the NBA (3rd in the NBA period at 12.4 per game along with 15-16 PPG, 2-3 APG, and nearly 2 stocks per game).
Also let Jay Huff and Pippen Jr walk who avg nearly 7 RBG this year for Memphis in 38 mpg combined.
Also let Caruso walk for no reason (which kills their perimeter defense).
Also low balled DeRozan yrs wise just like Ty Lue in 2019 and Caruso in 2021.
Also didn’t trade 27/29 firsts and Westbrook for Turner & Hield (or 27/29 1s + Reaves for Kyrie at 2023 deadline).
Also passed on Jaquez Jr and Trayce Jackson Davis at 17/40 in 2023 draft who help rebounding as well! TJD averages 5.1 RBG for Warriors in only 17 mpg! Jaquez jr this year averaging 6 RBG in 23 mpg!
BUT WHAT YOU FAIL TO MENTION IS THAT YES YOU ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE LAKER PLAYERS THAT ARE HURT, HOWEVER, THAT IS LITERALLY HALF OF THEIR TEAM OF SOLID ROLE PLAYERS. WHO CARES THAT THEY ARENT PALO RANCHERO OR CALDWELL POPE, THATS 2 PLAYERS TO 4!
This game shows you how much we need size out there, need healty vando and a healty wood when lagg offensively wood always responded last year i think he's a huge factor
Get ready to watch Reaves get abused against Denver,he's a horrendous defender.Why does he always sink in the lane leaving shooters,he's not taking a charge or blocking anyone shot
I’d rather they get blown out than lose the way they lost
I disagree.
I disagree vehemently, that’s dumb nobody likes getting blown out, in a close loss, no matter how heartbreaking, you can always look at some of the good things and improve and the bad things, when you get blown out you just throw it away
The magic are good but getting blown out at home by this magic team would mean the Lakers have bigger problems than they already do. And I’d be worried
getting blown out maybe feels better in the moment, but the long term issues it'll bring up are FAR WORSE then a close loss against one of the best defenses in the NBA. It's never great to lose like this, but you take this any day over a blowout lmao
Have you been watching any of the lakers games this year. Austin has only had 3 good games this season. He may be averaging 17-18 pts a game but it's taking him 17-18 shots to get there. As long as Austin is a starter, the lakers not winning anything. As long as he is on the floor in the final minutes of close games , they will lose more than they win because he can't guard a stop sign. Your friendship with Austin is compromising your integrity as an analyst.
Who should play in front of him smart ass ? We’re cooked. Dlo’s been ass. Gabe ? Ass. Max ? Ass. Our guard play is some of the worst in the league.
bron and AD carried garbage teammates all night don’t blame them Austin missed 2 as well AR is not a third option he’s a backup point guard and his best friend D Lo trash Knecht better than both of them and they jealous 😂
@@dinoevans5147 so you missed the segment where I said Austin had a terrible game?
@lakersnation Forget acknowledging he had a bad game. Acknowledge he shouldn't be starting. Austin is trash defensively. An offensively he's not a starting level gaurd. He not better then Lonnie Walker tbh or Malik Monk. But ur QUICK to sepak for the Lakers mentioning "lakers won't give up Reaves unless it's for a allstar" STOP Reaves trash & he was trash last yr. Yall hype any white player that simply gives "effort". Reaves not better then any of the main role players we've traded. KCP, CARUSO, KUZ etc. Traded him NOW while he has some value. Konnect & Cam should start for now. The trade we need is DLo & Hayes +1st to Toronto for center J Poteli. Then Austin, Gabe & JHS a 2nd & pic swap to Brooklyn for Schrooder & DFS.. Starting lineup of DFS,Konnect or Vando/cam, Rui, Bron AD. Bench of Schrooder, J Poteli & Konnect or Vando. 9th man Max or Wood.. Have we not learned anything from Vogel? SIZE & DEFENSIVE wins championships
@@Tony-n4e8v thank you 🙏🏽 I really don’t understand this obsession with Austin Reeves man it’s like they think he’s Luka or something he not even better than Anthony Simons from the blazers and they trash
Mavs showed today what can happen if you make your clutch free throws.
If both of your shooting guards are just shooting 6 out 22 and only 2 out of 11 from 3...sit them down!
Magic were the hungrier team last night. They wanted to beat the Lakers more than the Lakers wanted to beat them.
For a terrible night like this for AR, he shouldn't be in the finishing line-up.
I keep saying it austin Reaves is not a starting caliber player. On what nba contending team would he actually start? Omp none.
1. missing 9 free throws & losing by 1 is unacceptable.
2. why was AD shooting a fadeaway for game ??
3. i said it after the suns loss & i’ll say it again, this team WILL NOT go far if they don’t address the lack of scoring from the bench. you cannot have your starters playing almost 40 minutes a night early in the season
Have u seen the wingspan on bitzae and Isaac? That’s why 😂 thats part of the reason bron didn’t want the rock , those guys got length lol
Dont talk about how bad Dlo has been unless you say the same thing about Reeves. Both gotta go.
He loves his REAVES 😂
In the 4th quarter
Lebron missed one
Reeves missed 2 shortly before Davis
Davis missed 3
Don't forget the Austin Tech.
@@teresamcgee-vd2uc You're right. At the end of the game, every point matters. And at the end of the season, every game matters.
In my opinion this was a very bad loss. Orlando loses to Clippers the night before and the Lakers can't beat Orlando
who's on a back to back of a long west coast trip. No excuses for this loss.
the worst part is that Orlando are the worst in 3 point percentage but last night they turned into GSW...lol. Teams really go all out when they face lakers
@@wyckyodongo5670we also missing paolo/ WCJ but on the bright side Franz has been playing out of his mind and our defense has been on if the best in the league so far (yes ik it’s still early in the season)
Trade everyone but AD and James
Id trade LeBron James he's Old and not good enough anymore to lead a team to championship so try again
I'm not trading Dalton Knecht at all he's a key future peace
Practice your free throws every game and this won’t happen again . The Lakers gave away the game by missing 8 free throws when the game was almost over . I f there is any body to blame. It is themselves
Bad coaching last night, Austin literally gave zero on both ends of the floor while cam played acceptable. I felt Austin should’ve been out the game after half time, he didn’t even do nothing in the second, kept gunning not even looking DK’s way. Austin just kept driving n missing he really can be traded n DK can take his spot as long as we can get a guard that can pass, Austin doesn’t have a real guard IQ and all he does is forces shots up even if he’s in a slump.
I know he got scored on ftw, but CAMs been a pleasant surprise this season. Have you seen his 3p% this year?
A big improvement over Vando imo.
Austin was getting torched
and his fanboys keeps on deflecting the fact that hes not a starter caliber guard! they love to glaze the guy so much smh
not a bad coaching it’s on the players missing those freebies
@ yea u would’ve been a bad coach as well last night, u don’t force a guy that’s giving u zero on both end of the floor over a guy that’s playing better that night, yes the free throws but wat about before the free throws? The game was never supposed to be that close. You’re a guy that only thinks for the moment, and that’s ok, that’s why you’re not a coach right? 🥚actly
Bron and AD couldn’t make the biggest free throws of the game. Couldn’t believe that
AR crapped the bed first let’s not forget
Back to back misses (0/2) to end the game is crazy, it’s on AD
@@thill31092 yuppp, I understand if 1 player missed but ALL 3 of them butchered the last couple mins
Ad is why they lost the damn game soft as pie
All three of them choked. They should have a mandatory 100-150 free throws to get complete practice. When they're tired not at the start of practice.
Reaves problem last night was his refusal to give the ball to Knecht. He was trying to protect his position on the team.
Lol I saw at least two times where he missed DK "open", as well as one where Bron was wide open at the corner (but I think he made the layup anyway?)
Bench scoring is horrid. Rebounding is horrid. In any given night AR OR Dlo play poorly. Missed free throws wouldn’t be significant if these other issues were resolved. Still could have won comfortably if rebounding and bench production was there.
Trevor, your protected boy REEVES not showing up caused the game. I know you do not like to mention his bad play.
Time to bench Asstin reaves right along with Dlo, no such thing as winning anything with asstin starting for any nba team 😂😂
I can't WAIT for December 15th to come... we need to make some trades to get bench depth and a BIG
We learned that JJ Ham and his coaching staff are still clueless about defense so the Lakers couldn't get stops the entire game. His decision to give AD the last shot after he missed 3 free throws was abysmal; it should've been LBJ or even the rookie Dalton. AR and Dlo are a horrible backcourt, they should be coming from the bench or even better Lakers need to trade them + Max + Rui + Vanderbilt (who never plays anyway) + Gabe for a real big but no one wants them!
Ill say it again. Lakers need to trade for Capela and Daniels on the Hawks. Solves the size, rebounding and perimeter defense issues.
Why would the hawks trade daniels 😂, he’s had a breakout year with them lol
Lakers don't need to boy friend Clint Capela so sit down and Hawks not trading him
@@wills.9422 I guess your slow. Of course if they're willing too. Smh
@@wills.9422 Also the Hawks are looking to blow it up eventually. I actually follow eveey team not just the lakers.
@@JerryLane-c1e boyfriend? Dafuk
Brodie - your highness AR IS wack! end of story - dont blame benched dlo as usual
Benching Dlo killed his confidence. Reaves should be the 6th man of this team because he's a worse ball handler and shooter than Dlo. When Rui gets back he should be with the 2nd unit with Austin. Starters should be Dlo Knecht Reddish James Davis. Perfect mix of shooting, scoring, ball handling, play making and defense
This Lost really felt bad to me like it killed our momentum, hopefully we don't start a losing streak against the nuggets
I concur, AD doesn't normally miss free throws, definitely what made it surprising.
DLO been cautious to shoot cause he knows if he take a wild shot or miss he will come out immediately. Not giving him any type of room for error like there is for AR & others have then any loss it’s immediately blamed on him so right he’s not even comfortable
@@azboydfamily6251 no excuses - we seen it before when he thought he was gonna get traded. Too inconsistent for what he's paid and it's time for him to be traded again!
it’s about to be 2025 & he still playing like this. he gotta go man
Still hurting from this lost. What do you think about this Trev. Foul down 2 with more time on the clock get them to the line, worst case they tie it we have more time to make a shot n or they foul us different ball game we miss overtime.
Austin wasn’t getting any calls and he let it get to him. He’ll bounce back. Dlo im not so confident about.
AD just cant miss both of those fts at the end. That was bad. But he’s having an unbelievable start to this season so I’m not going all negative on him. This type of loss happens to every team. Just take out Denver and this game will be overlooked. If not this game will look like a spiraling moment.
Go Lakers 🌊🏀🟣🟡💪🏼
Outside of LeBron/AD/Knecht the team's shooting 42.8% including 33.5% from 3PT 👎🏼
AR has been horrible since DK started playing good
Literally all season Reaves has digressed
@teresamcgee-vd2uc he's just up and down. Good games then bad games, and back again. Super inconsistent
DLO has gotten over shadowed by AR15 a number 2 over all pick got replaced for a undrafted player
Too many Reeves fan boys including the host. Even though he gave you interviews understand he is not that guy.
Lakers over anything. Austin Westbrick and Dslow gotta go.
Pelinka DO YOUR JOB! We could have already got Lavine and opened up a roster spot. We only gonna roll with 8 people in the playoffs so get the best 8 we can and let’s go
Bulls not trading Zach Lavine to Lakers proof you don't know basketball and a casual
Tell yo boy friend LeBum James to do his job and close games out losing to Nuggets 119-118 over Lakers and stop worrying about players from other teams
With how the flow of the game was DK shoulda got more shot 4th qt, and cam shoulda been utilized more offensively due to the proficiency he showed and of course defense
Funny stat that no one has really talked about unless I missed it … Cam Reddish is shooting 63.6% from 3?! This is probably the most shocking stat on the Lakers this year… When he shoot’s he looks confident… It will be interesting to see if this is real… Of course he won’t finish with that percentage…
What we learned is AD needs to guard on perimeter at the 4 to guard height shooters like Wagner. This means we need a vet center on 5.
If Rob Pelinka would have gotten a skilled big, rebounding would not be an issue. FIRE ROB PELINKA!
Nope Lakers not firing Rob Pelinka who's a great GM proof you don't know basketball and a casual 🤣🤡
You don't know basketball 🏀 and nobody takes you seriously
LeBum James the problem he ruined Lakers when he wanted Russell Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony his buddy and getting rid of Caldwell Pope and Kyle Kuzma and Lakers 33-49 losing record got Frank Vogel fired
AR need to get traded! He’s forcing everything! He also tries to play for a foul everytime he get close to the basket! We need to trade him before he gets exposed! It’s like he’s trying to prove that he’s better than Dalton! It’s not even close!
We lost because AD and Bron need HELP. We need a trade!!!! Get Lavine at NO draft capital then package the picks and get Kessler for JHS and whatever it takes!!!!
Bulls not trading Zach Lavine to La Fakers proof you don't know basketball 🏀 and a casual 😂
Jazz not trading Walker Kessler to Lakers proof you don't know basketball 🏀 and a casual 😊
LeBum James and Anthony Davis washed up duo not good enough to lead a team to championship needs trades every season it's embarrassing and laughable
Austin Reaves 18 ppg this season and stil LeBron James and Anthony Davis can't get it done so it's them not they teammates lol
LeBron and Anthony Davis missed playoffs 33-49 losing record with Russell Westbrook, Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard 3 hall of fame teammates 2021-2022 and got Frank Vogel fired
I feel like we need lebron as and knecht all to get 20s and higher
Free throws it’s clear but also - AR and DLo were subpar also. Below average games for both and we always need one of these 2 to have a good game.
Team defense has been atrocious all season ESPECIALLY in the second half all season long.
Not just the free throws also the final play is fadeaway?? If it is fadeaway at least give it to lebron not AD
I’m putting this one on JJ. We needed rebounding and Koloko only played about 10 minutes. It shouldn’t have come down to free throws to decide the game.
Nice game over all...Lakers 👏 yall did good...next step bounce back...simply close out
Magic have a lot of Length and They played Super Physical however, We had: 1) Poor FT Shooting - 65% 2) Low Bench Scoring - 14Pts and 3) Poor Shooting from AR & D’Lo!!!
We need 15+ each from D’Lo & AR and Cam should’ve played more minutes and D’Lo/MaxC less minutes down The Stretch.
AR not passing the ball to DK and forcing shots 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was wild clown ish frfr
Last night still hurt today for several points. Our defense is subpar and we need help for us to compel for a championship
Yes missed FT cost the game. But the game shouldn’t have been that close. They didn’t have Banquero and were on a back to back, losing to Clips. Big picture: Lakers give up WAY too many points. Team defense is terrible. Near bottom of league. This is a .500 team after the road trip, unless something major changes on defense.
I’m so ashamed…
6 wins in a row is the reason why I am not that ashamed right now.
its 1 game but when the season is ending and you are fighting fore the 7,6, or 5th seed these are the games that come back to haunt you
I 100 percent agree they got to get better defending and getting stops
What a BS loss this was. Staying up late night to watch this embarresment! 😢
and just think this was without the Magic having Paolo Banchero.....
Fr they better make up for this verses Denver 😡
Why it happened, the free throws miss 2,Davis and Reaves
Austin Reaves has been streaky all season and even in his high scoring games it's taking him 17+ shots. He is a liability defensively and he plays erratic offensively sometimes. He should be benched. It'll help him in the long run and the team. Dk, rui, reddish, bron and AD can be starters.
Austin Reaves 18 ppg this season so try again
LeBron James plays no defense so what's yo point?
@@TruthSeeker-v2o comparing LeBron and Austin screams casual.
@@d.bonner20
Nope you B um hes saying LeBum James doesn't play defense he never once compared him to Austin Reaves as a player 🤣🤡
@@d.bonner20
But nice way to try to deflect from yo boy friend LeBum James getting criticism for being horrible on defense 🤣🤡
This is the one game that set the tone...We have AD and LeBron scoring big but no cigar.
Dalton is already better than DLo and Reaves... Smh