DID IT SUCK? - Doctor Who [LOVE AND MONSTERS REVIEW]
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People really miss the point of this episode. Elton's opening line is *meant* to be cheesy; he's a normal-ish bloke making a blog online and trying to make it seem interesting to the viewer, which usually ends up being a bit cringey, just look at UA-cam.
Or Facebook and Twitter. "I'm eating Toast" "I'm visiting a friend" "You know what makes me mad" kind of stupid posts stupid mundane people do. Does not make it any less cringey. This is fan service to stupid fans of the show. Look they made an episode just for them. That and paving stone porn.
My biggest issue with this episode is that Elton is supposed to represent an average bloke; he's a bloody moron. That level of stupidity isn't the norm is it?
Exactly. There are so many you tubers who say random, odd or cringy things like more then half
@@cyberemperor1435 I mean we did vote Brexit
@@LadyDoomsinger have you opened your eyes yet?
Does anybody think elton looks like a young Gordon Ramsay ?
Mark Haigh kind of
THATS WHO HE REMINDS ME OF
Mark Haigh fUcKiNg DoNkey
Mark Haigh jwhgeuyghgevnbdv
Elton when he sees the meat the doctor has at the beginning of the episode 'ITS FUCKING RAW!!!'
Elton makes it pretty clear with his "Wait 'til you *hear* the rest" that the whole adventure with the hoix was just him narrating excitedly into the camera. The Scooby Doo chase sequence represents Elton's crappy over-exaggerated explanation.
I never thought of it like that. Good point.
EXACTLY!
@antisocialite I would argue that the episode does not sufficiently indicate that it's all an exaggerated account from an unreliable narrator. The vast majority of the episode seems to suggest that it is all 100% real.
@@DELTARYZ As is often the case, it is a matter of interpretation - the episode never explicitly state it one way or the other, and to my knowledge no one involved in the production has made any official statement about what was the intention of it. So, one answer is not more right than the other.
I like the "Elton is exaggerating" explanation because the episode makes more sense that way, and is not just a badly written script (although it is still pretty bad).
Exactly, notice the camera overlay isnt there for those scenes, because he didnt record it, hes just retelling.
I'd watch love and monsters for 10 hours straight than the whole of season 11
ship another ship id watch for a day instead of season 12
ship another ship just say you hate change and go
Eh Maybe No, it’s not change. It’s fucking horrible political bullshit writing. Chibnall can’t write even just a ‘good’ episode to save his life. The show is doomed as long as he’s showrunner.
@@eh_maybe current doctor who is complete garbage. Saying you dont like change is a lazy argument
Bullshit
All I can say is thank goodness for Blink for showing us how to do this idea properly
Blink is a worst episode than this one
JustSomeRandomGuy Online dear fuck no
@@justsomerandomguyonline1144 wtf u fool
Blink is arguably the best episode of New Who
JustSomeRandomGuy Online are you have a laugh
how did Ursula have glasses on inside the creature?
Jenna May underrated comment
so she can look like heston blumenthal
That's what I was wondering
And also, since her face is stuck on the fucking concrete slab, her glasses are permanently stuck on her face now. Talk about pain and hell.
The kid who designed the monster for this episode grew up and has his own youtube channel now, Channel Pup!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!???
@@kryten1016 i knew this for a while when i first heard it i thought he was bullshiting for subs
@Jerry Elijah oh you forgot about the part where it cost money and is actually just a scam
@Jerry Elijah Nope, no one cares. You're also a terrible boyfriend.
@Jerry Elijah I'll be surprised if she's still with you honestly. And to answer your question...NOBODY CARES
They should have called their band 'the who'
Copyright.
〈/sanity〉 The Sloth More like The What
Yeah, but after the encounter with the Absorbaloff, they won't get fooled again.
OUT HERE IN THE STREETS
Stop
I actually love this episode. It's so stupid and cheesy but that's exactly what I love about it. In my eyes makes it a classic. I'm weird like that
Sam Malkie (Late reply) I feel the same way about it lol
I don’t mind it either
I feel the exact same way
No I totally agree, it really sticks out in my mind, it's also quite a good episode if you're very young - scared the hell out of me when elton was chased by the clom guy
But...the Doctor traps a woman's face in a paving stone so she can give blowjobs to Mark Marren for the rest of her life. I can't accept that he would ever, *ever* do that!
Can we all agree that this channel really cares about its content and editing unlike some youtubers
Steve Hayhurst Oh stop you'll make me blush!
he does put very good editing onto his videos that's for sure
It's true, you really deserve more views. Doctor Who fans deserve a better show.
Steve Hayhurst yes we can
@@mr.drakanator with all due respect to Harry, it is simplistic editing albeit good editing. It's mostly B-roll with some images and random effects added. No effects in this particular video but others hav them (eg spinning images).
The ONLY thing I like about this episode is that we get to see more of Jackie and how the absence of Rose really affects her. I always loved Jackie and I really appreciated the title glimpse into her life.
But that’s about it for the episode. It’s cute, I liked it as a kid because I thought it was very self aware, but it’s not high on a rewatch list
I hate this episode with a passion . It’s boring, the monster is rubbish, the people are irritating …and don’t even start me on having ELO as the soundtrack . Can’t stand them . 😡🤣🤣
Did anybody else laugh when here face was on the slab I laughed so hard 😂
machiv21 it was so ridiculous
machiv21 I did as well
No it was 10x sadder than any companion death in smiths and capaldis reign
specially when he said “and we even have a love life”
I did not laugh. I recoiled.
I find this episode impressive, actually. This is a new perspective of showing how Doctor affects ordinary people's life. We all know that if you get close to Doctor you may die, but when we talk about this topic we tend to think of those scenes that people around Doctor, most of time his companions, die beautifully with honor. However, that's not how normal people die. They may die in ridiculous ways, being absorbed by an ugly monster, becoming a face in the concrete, and dying before they can do anything significant. And when they are in a horrible scenario, the Doctor comes not because he's here to save them but because the girl beside him said they upset her mother. That's what the truth is.
The comment about Brighton's beach is fucking amazing
I think fear her is even worse
Agreed, but I think Sleep No More beat them both
Sleep no more had a crippling flaw, in that the monsters were silly. If they had been made of the people instead, it would have been far better. The whole first person camera angle and the very meta ending were a good idea though.
Nah, that council guy gives fear her lots of redemption by being fucking hilarious
Fear was dull and standard Love and Monsters was defo not standard.
@@henryalexander7325
I will defend Sleep No More. Everyone should have one almost universally loathed episode that they'd defend to the hilt and Sleep No More is mine... or possibly The Rebel Flesh is.
Wow, I'm surprised that there is a lot of support for this episode here, I was starting to think I was the only one who liked it, lol
It's a Davies Era episode. Some of Moffatt's good ones are worse than this.
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer ....absolutely!
Ding dong your opinion is wrong
grognak pleasure split splat, you’re a twat
This episode is still better than most of series 11 imo
How did you manage to screech about Jackie having men's deodorant in her house for a minute without noticing that it had A PINK LID.
thank-you!
Men deodorant can be pink too…
@@Tired_butokthey can but they aren't 😂
I liked it. I liked the dynamic within Linda
This is actually my favourite Who episode.
As a completely character driven episode it really appealed to me.
I love all the cheese and comedy of this episode, and i can totally suspend my disbelief when you consider its all being told from eltons perspective.
I love this episode so much. I have to fight for it all the time. Just the characters and the way LINDA bonds and become great friends throughout, but then eventually are forced to separate, like all good friends must. Elton singing Mr. Blue Sky is fantastic and the ending where we find out about his Mom made me cry once. It's weird, but I've rewatched the early seasons of Doctor Who about six times now and every time I love this episode more and more.
It was done from someone else's POV so they could film two episodes at the same time because they would only need Tennent and Piper for a short time. Much like Blink or Midnight (mainly Tennent) and Turn Left (Mainly Tate)
They could google image search the photo and find out that it's a picture of Rose Tyler, that girl that went missing a year before big ben was crashed into by an alien spaceship.
From there it wouldn't take much more googling until they find Jacky's name.
Then in 2006 all you'd have to do is open a phone book and find Jacky's address. realise it's a block of council flats then jump to the reasonable conclusion that she'd use a laundrette. Then go to the laundrette every day for the next however long until he meets Jacky.
Not an impossible task really, even back in 2006.
Alice Quinn Rose wait, does Rose being gone for a year make this 2007? Because if Rose was 2005, 1 year later was 2006, Christmas Invasion must've been Christmas 2006. Yes, this is set in 2007.
Also, Rose can't be 2004 because of the ending to the End of Time being in 2005 and she clearly hasn't met the Doctor at that time.
Short answer: Yes
Long Answer: *HOLY FUCK YES IT DID*
You forgot the fact that she still had her glasses on after being absorbed.
Great review, The Absorbaloff is an odd but original design.
Designed by a six year old you know.
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer
... who now has a you tube channel as Channel Pup.
Who is one of my favourite Doctor Who based UA-cam personalities.
8:05 in episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone,
he strikes the same rib twice in succession,
yet he produces two clearly different tones.
I mean, what are we-- to believe that this is some sort of a--
a magic xylophone or something?
Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
I really like this episode! It's so dumb and sweet, but also shows how the doctor ruins everyones lives
Literally watched it last night along with The Satan Pit. Doing a marathon. Great channel and I actually like this episode looking back on it...
The ELO brainwashed you. Good ELO does that. Look at Guardians of the Galaxy.
After watching the satan pit: “that was amazing! Can’t wait for the next episode!”. After watching love and monsters: “well that was... unexpected... but pretty fun I guess.”. After watching fear her: “that sucked! Onto the finale.”. After watching doomsday: “😭”.
The only good thing about this episode is that Mr Blue Sky is one of my favourite songs. That’s about the most I can give it
Okay. I'm three of your videos in and I just keep thinking, "Is he deliberately missing the point?" "Is...is he ignorant?" At this point, if I can't tell, I think it's on you.
I kind of love this episode.
The music segment... the cringe, my god the cringe!
That's the point! It was 2006!
It's confusing because the visuals suffer from unreliable narrator. It's not that Rose and the Doctor actually had a Benny Hill chase scene with the monster. It's that while Elton is telling the story, they make up visuals to go along with his telling, because otherwise the whole episode would just be Elton talking with a few video clips he shot himself. So, we aren't really seeing Rose and the Doctor very often, but Elton's impression of what they were like.
*Controversial Opinion Alert* - I like Love and Monsters
Me too! I thought it was enjoyable despite the flaws.
I loved it when I first saw it and every time I've gone back to rewatch it, I've enjoyed it. I get why people don't like it, but on another level, I don't get why people who love Davies Era Who don't like it, lol.
Me too
*Cotroversial Opinion Alert* - i liked fear her
I do too 😆
There’s so much potential with this concept. Imagine if the whole thing was found footage. What if he used one of those wanted sign for Rose to track down Jakie. Get background characters from previous episodes who have actually interacted with the Doctor to be LINDA members. A story about the Doctor having a fan club of normal people who just want to find out more about him sounds perfect for a unique episode, but no we got this.
I drew something that I thought was really cool for that competition. A dragon that turned out to be a Spaceship piloted by aliens. Instead they went with a big piece of snot that absorbs people.
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Your'e right - it is a pile of shite but it still has a couple of good points.
Firstly, it's good seeing the story from the human point of view - I think that the current series' have all been lacking in their "feel" for some time now - Probably from Matt Smith's first episode onward. They all feel like they've been made in outer space or on a rather upper middle class estate - I liked Jackie's council estate much more much more than Amy's odd little country village - it connects with the viewer more if the doctor is in real life England eating chips than him hanging around trendy cafes and other 1 star eateries.
The other thing it did well was using the ELO music during the episode - I know you weren't keen but I keep imagining this episode without it and it would (in my opinion) be much duller without it.
Now - who's up for a little pavement face fucking?
You had me until the last line. Consider your like removed good sir!
EDIT: Actually, scrap that. I agreed with everything you said. Have that like.
Jesus Christ I can't stop laughing everytime I read that last line
It is a hard BJ.
@@exexpat11 *ba dum tss*
There's one scene that almost redeems this episode, and that is when the Doctor and Rose arrive towards the end, and the Doctor says something alone the lines of "Interesting. Some sort of Absorbatrix... Absorba...clon? Absorbaloff?" To which the monster replies "Absorbaloff, yes!" Almost as though he doesn't really know himself, and kind of just settles on this as the best sounding option. It's really totally daft and actually quite funny in that it almost breaks the 4th wall. Not that I think Doctor Who SHOULD break the 4th wall, but still.
The only comfort I have in this episode is that when Elton will eventually die. The Usula concrete slap is stuck in a forgotten desk draw begging for death.
Calm down satan
Hhahahahahaha
I can't be the only one that really liked this episode? It's different and just fun.
This episode is honestly one of my favourites. I love the idea of making the Doctor just the supoorting character. I love the perspective of a normal guy, who is kind of a loser, starting this bis conspiracly. I love to see, how the doctor effects other lives he may not even know exists. This idea - that even if the doctor isnt there, there are people thinking about him. It makes this episode special.
I am shocked that as a Brit your first reference for the chase sequence was Scooby Doo instead of the old British variety show run by Benny Hill, off of whom the Scooby Doo chase sequence is a reference and a nod to.
Salamon2 Yeah sorry I don't think I'm old enough to appreciate Benny Hill, but thanks for pointing that out man, I never knew that!
Mate, on this channel he's referenced Tracey Beaker, Cod 5 Zombies and Assassins Creed 1 (So I assume he's my age). Benny Hill is way before our time. I remember watching old Scooby Doo episodes on Cartoon Network or whatever. Ive never seen Benny Hill. Also he talks about his nostalgia for these episodes from 2005/6. That should let you know he wasn't around in the 70's.
The love and monsters monster scared me when I was yung
The Hoix or the Absorbaloff?
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer I think the hoix scared him
Honestly? This episode is amazing for the subtext about fan culture and toxicity; something that is even more of an issue nowadays
The monster design and the ending are pretty much the only downside for me
I adore this episode because it makes me laugh and I think Elton’s story as just a not so bright normal guy is made very well
My mum and I always loved this episode :P
We kind of like it ironically I guess, it's definitely cheesy and ordinary, but I think that's kind of the point?
"Doesn't make sense" Come on... this is Dr. Who so everything is a little.... out of reach. Personnaly this is on of my favorite episodes. It reeeeally dosen't take itself too seriously witch is so much better then when Moffat takes the wheel and fails trying to make it too serious. I think the show needed an episode like this. The acting, the monster, the love, and Eltons mooranic investigations sucks beacuse he is simple. And simplicity I think is a key in this episode. L.I.N.D.A is so far from the greatnees of the doctor, but is still important humans make the simple thing important. Loved your video tho. Keep up the good work!
I never noticed the horrible direction of the episode, but from a storytelling perspective, I did enjoy it.
tbh I love this episode. Maybe cause i first watched it when i was pretty young, and it actually made me really sad for a while. But I legit like it. As well, the extremely out of place humor at the end makes it even more depressing, somehow.
I personally think the episode was genius. It was supposed to be ordinary, goofy and cheesy to juxtapose all the other grandiose Dr. Who adventures. It does brilliantly by being very honest and human.
I like this episode since it's in the 'so bad it's good' category, which makes this far better than most of series 11!
I always assumed it was purposefully bad. I actually liked it but now that I’ve been reminded of the episode, I’m torn 😅
Growing up, this was my absolute favourite episode, even to this day I love it, especially with the periodic ELO interventions. And the fact we get to see a large green slimy naked Peter Kay, bloody brilliant!
[I actually like this episode]
It's not great, but I love the insight into the common people touched by the doctor
The jackie segment is pretty cringe though
"Why was that one cut and not this?!"
Probably because including one of these scenes makes the other absolutely redundant. They wanted to keep one so removed the other.
finally somone someone who agrees with me about capauldi playing the guitair
I loved this episode it scared the fuck out of me.....bear in mind I was like 7
I like to think that Elton is crazy and this whole episode is a delirium from the madhouse.
i do totally understand the criticism of this episode, but for me when I saw it as a child it was brilliant. To think that an average kid my age could design a monster and send it into the cbbc competition and it actually being on the show was groundbreaking to me. It felt like they were in touch with the kids watching it at the time and it somehow felt brilliant. I remember the competition being on tv and it was a huge deal lol.
Did you enter the competition yourself? :)
But it does have Mr Blue Sky by ELO in it, so it gets a point for that. Also, all I could see is Moaning Myrtle in this episode.
The absorbaloth chase scene needs some Yakety Sax behind it.
I actually like Love and Monsters up until the last 15 minutes
Harvey Stoner ding dong your opinion is wrong
I can see the inspiration you take from IHE. Keep it up!
Edmund Barker I honestly am not that inspired by IHE, I'd say YMS is a bigger inspiration for my work.
Some of the elements could be better executed, but the concept of this episode is a great idea imo: showing Jackie living through Rose's absence, and showing how the Doctor can both positively and negatively impact people he doesn't even know about. His influence on Earth brought LINDA together, and allowed them to create friendships that went beyond their original goals, but he also puts innocent people in danger, as the Absorbaloff would never have been on Earth if not for the Doctor. It's interesting seeing how Earth life goes on in the wake of the Doctor's visits, even if the execution was clunky at times.
I personally really liked the episode but the comments are so funny.
If anyone is wondering why the Doctor and Rise were barely present in this story is because this was being filmed a along with The Impossibility Planet and The Satan Pit. This is called parallel filming.
HHH Be out here sounding like Victor Kennedy
Why didn't any of the characters google 'exema'? If I was one of them, that's what I would do.
Love & Monsters is brilliant! It provides perspective of life around The Doctor and shows just how good he is when it comes to aliens compared to humans. It touches on love, family and tragedy with a great soundtrack and was a nice change to the other episodes. That scene where Elton finds the Tardis is phenomenal, it really hits home the mysterious/mystical/impossible side of The Doctor that normally goes un-noticed by the viewer as we see it all the time. In a weird way it gives Doctor Who a reality in which no other episodes have. Although the concrete woman was just weird...
I think this episode goes over a lot of peoples heads which is such a shame because I reckon its up there with the best of 10.
I actually really like this episode
"you can't beat a bit of elo" is the best bit of this Episode
this episode is a guilty pleasure of mine 😂😂
I used to really like this episode when I was a kid so I rewatched it now and laughed the whole way through
This could've worked as a more modern version of that Red Nose Day parody of Dr Who with Rowan Atkinson (Mr Bean himself), if it wasn't trying so hard to treat itself as a gripping narrative.
My third favourite episode of Doctor Who, after Heaven Sent and Vincent and the Doctor.
The icing on the cake was the comment that they still have a bit of a sex life.
loved this episode! so much fun; normally not my taste in who episodes at all, but couldn't keep the smile off my face!
"The Hoix couldn't possibly move that fast!"
Apparently he's never seen Jack Black or Chris Farley
Love and monsters: is possibly the worst Doctor who episode ever
Orphan 66: hold my bear
I love the irony of a UA-camr who makes Doctor Who videos being deadly serious in his disdain for an episode that in part pokes fun at UA-camrs who make Doctor Who videos. The fact is, this was a light hearted bit of fun that is so, so much better than Fear Her. Which was the very next episode
The music in your review makes this perfect
He didn't even talk about his service in the 101st Airborne Division in World War 2 xD
I love this episode! The soundtrack with ELO is great. The Elton and Ursula love story is great (until the ending). It was a great change-of-pace episode. No where near "Blink" of course, but still good.
The direction isn't "confused". The story is told by Elton, but not all of what we see is 'found footage', the rest of it is the story as told by Elton, as he remembers it - and he's an unreliable narrator. That's why there's a scooby-doo chase sequence. That's why there's studio-level sound on a poorly remembered childhood memory.
See I want to hate this episode. But I can't. This was the first episode of Doctor who I saw and it was this episode that made me want to see more
i'm about to break dr who fan law: i still watch this episode sometimes because i do get a couple laughs out of it.
Nobody seems to understand this episode. This is a retelling, NOT a recording. He doesnt have footage of the events, hes telling the story, thats why its goofy and doesnt make much sense, not because the doctor actually had a scooby doo chase scene. Notice that none of those scenes have the camera overlay. Its a visualization of what hes describing, and he's of course describing it inaccurately.
This episode is great.
The doctor has the tardis which is shown to have at least one library and the majigery that can create just about anything and is a member of the most technologically advanced species in the universe - and the best he can do is sonic whatsherface into a slab on concrete?
He could clone her using random skin or hair, grow the clone and transplant her consciousness into the clone body? he could even have all that happen in the background and just time travel back to where the episode ended after it was done to deliver a living Ursula right after he left.
He could transplant the consciousness into a life-like robot even, there are examples of those existing.
Ok now I remember why this was the worst,and I thought that In The Forest Of The Night was the worst, no, this is fucking shittier than shitty shit itself.
BenG HD Yeah I genuinely remember it being a lot better when I was younger, it's sooooooo baaaaaaddd
BenG HD alot of recent episodes have become awful.
The only upside to this episode is that as a one-off, self-contained episode it has no impact whatsoever on the continuity. Which means it can be safely skipped and ignored.
This version of the Doctor really likes leaving would be victims in a fate worse than death
Whole video should just be
YES the end
Hey If anyone’s interested, the kid who designed the absorbaloff has a UA-cam channel (channel pup). I think he’s pretty class and he’s redeemed himself for creating the thing
Hey look that side monster in the Scooby doo scene kinda looks like the "humans" from "earth" in Orphan 55.
The professional camera work is the episode showing you the story you’re being told in the found footage
The thing that always troubles me about this episode is. Elton always talks about that time he met the doctor when he was younger but in that exact flashback scene it’s tennants version but the doctor only turned into the tennant version at christmas, when elton was about 30. Complete bullshit
Have you watched the show? HE'S A TIME TRAVELLER.
champdude17 because of the time he regenerated
@@vampfilthh So whats stopping the 10th doctor travelling back in time to the 80s when Elton was a child
champdude17 why would he
I only just realised that the "monster" from the Scooby doo type scene was actually apart of the big group of monsters infront of the Pandora box
Good catch!
It's got a nice design, I wouldn't mind seeing it again in a somewhat bigger role.
I remember the first time I saw this and my reaction was: "Who let a fucking 7y/o write the script to this episode and who approved this and through it was a good idea"
[EDIT] Hold on during that first band scene HE'S MISSING HALF A DRUM KIT
Classic episode, it’s up there with genesis of the daleks or silence in the library/ forest of the dead
One question I always had, why did the absorbed people never try screaming through the Abzorbaloff’s disguise? Like does his disguise also conveniently stop the absorbed voices coming through but perfectly both leaves his own voice to escape but also changes his accent? Can the absorbed people see out from under the disguise? I just never understood why they never tried anything like that, they remain relatively quiet and don’t even seem to be in pain, weird