“The House of the Dragon does not seem to know who rules it” - Borros Baratheon in DA HOUSE!
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2022
- MY FAVORITE HOUSE HAS FINALLY MADE ITS APPEARANCE! Now to wait for House Stark on next season!
Love this scene! Check out Aemond Targaryen acting without saying anything!
Borros Baratheon
Aemond Targaryen
Lucerys Targaryen
#houseofthedragon #housebaratheon #aemondtargaryen
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House of the Dragon
Genre
Action
Adventure
Fantasy
Serial drama
Created by
Ryan Condal
George R. R. Martin
Based on
Fire & Blood
by George R. R. Martin
Starring
Paddy Considine
Matt Smith
Emma D'Arcy
Rhys Ifans
Steve Toussaint
Eve Best
Sonoya Mizuno
Fabien Frankel
Milly Alcock
Emily Carey
Graham McTavish
Matthew Needham
Jefferson Hall
Ewan Mitchell
Roger Evans
Elliot Grihault
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Made an edit of this scene but with Mark Addy (Bobby B) narration as “introduced” to me by you guys! - ua-cam.com/video/1oFXjLdjtd0/v-deo.html
more people need to see this! as a huge Baratheon fan this is cool as fuck! i'm glad Mark addy did some Lore narration, goes to show how true they're keeping the show to the books! 😬🤘🏻
Imagine if Stannis found out his ancestor couldn't read.
😂🤣 Shireen should be teaching Borros how to read
@@NinaC picture Borros trying to pronounce the word knight k-nig-hit 🤣
He’d be grinding his teeth so hard
He could read just chose not to
@@ocsjc13 that's some hardcore King Bobby B. energy.
"The House of the Dragon does not seem to know who rules it"
If only he saw his own house 170 years later
المشكلة أن بعد موت روبرت براثيون الحكم انتقل ل آل لانستر 😢
Well that’s pretty long dude. That’s 8 generations & for him his lifetime will never see that lost .
He would probably be proud to see a Baratheon sat on the iron throne though.
Cuckolded, raising bastard incest children, and getting murdered on a hunting trip?
@@t3chn0kiwi1 i was more talking about how three different people consider themselves to be the rulers of house baratheon
My guy had less than 5 minutes of screen time and everyone is already convinced he's Robert's ancestor.
he is though????????
kind of goes without saying...lol
@@AwesomeCool80 His son is the father of the father of Robert. If I remember right.
@@odasurf5480 Yeah either way the baratheon bloodline still rules storms end and one of them, Robert ends up on the iron throne. Unless some weird shit happened along the way how is he not Robert's ancestor. I just down understand what the OC meant lol.
@@odasurf5480 no, there's like 3 generations between them, iirc. It goes Orys>Boremund>Borros>Lyonel>Ormund>Steffon>Robert
He looks every bit like an ancestor of Robert.
True! Such a great casting choice!
God, for a moment I believed it was him XD! I'm joking, but very good casting.
He doesn’t SOUND like an ancestor of Robert though haha
The seed is strong.
@@thecultofjormungandr483 i mean people dont usually sound alike
Ah, a classic Baratheon.
Partially responsible for a massive, devastating civil war
Haha and just on brand House Stark is the one who will end the war in one way or another.
The only two people responsible are Rhaenyra for being an entitled little princess, and Viserys for a) spoiling his favourite kid, b) not arranging a great council of the lords to sort out the succession before his death, and c) not marrying Rhaenyra to Aegon as is the tradition in house Targaryen if there is an older sister, so there os no dispute about succession and the eldest diagnose has their child inherit (sired by the eldest son)
Don’t Blame Borros for Viserys being a kind, but weak ineffectual piece of shit.
Also remember, Viserys got cut a lot on the iron throne, and when Rhaenyra briefly takes control of it, even when wearing armour it cuts her up too.
@@NinaC House Stark will punish anyone without honor...
And everybody in King's Landing had lost its honor before winter came
@@elyastoohey6621 Most coherent green fan
@@elyastoohey6621 smells like Green Propaganda in here. Acting like Otto going behind the King's back to install a rapey spoiled little shit as King wasn't the main cause. You must be crazy. The only ones to blame are the Greens. Otto, Allicent and Aemond.
Storms end is magnificent
Very! Love it so much
it was belong to the powerful line of Stormkings - the Original Kings of westeros, of course it will be manigficent
I think it's my favorite castle in the entire series
My type of castle, rainy and rocky
Trash for a Trash House.
As a true Baratheon, he is above reading
🤣🤣🤣
King Stannis beg to differ.
@@zinanmo Stannis is above being a true baratheon
I liked how Robert's ancestor wasn't a maniac, as he didn't approve Aemond taking Luke's eye, as he was just an envoy. The way Robert wasn't a maniac either, realized that he isn't really fit to rule and trusted his entire realm to men who were honest to a fault. Unfortunately, then, he married a Lannister.
He also wouldn't want a dragon army burning his house down so there's that
@@cs6993 true, but he had Vhagar(almost) on his side, considering Aemond was already there. So I assume he already took sides and was ready for what's coming. All im saying is this Baratheon displayed a hint of sense(and a bit of humanity) by not allowing Aemond to go berserk. On a side not and ironically, Robert kills the last dragon by caving his chest in with his Warhammer.
What is wrong with lannisters? Tyrion is great, tywin is brilliant, jaime is deep down a good guy with a big ego. Cersei is the only evil one
@@Gugnar678 read again. I said, "a Lannister" not "Lannisters" 🙂. Though, I disagree about Tywin and Jaime(to an extent). Tywin may come across as regal and stoic, with the intelligence, stature, composure and power to match(and even reprimand Clegane) which makes everyone in awe of him, in the end he's cruel and utterly without mercy to achieve whatever he must. Cersei is very much the product of his upbringing, and absolutely full of hate and full of herself, though lacking the deftness and intelligence of Tywin. She's just vile, except for when she agreed to let Ned to take the black, but again minus points for not reining her son in. The exception, Jaime, is a lost soul and cause. Pampered and cocky little shit, utterly without honour(he doesn't blink pushing a child to death). Only when he lost everything(his sword hand) that he comes to term with reality. Though we are yet to see what will happen to him in the next books. Tyrion is the only Lannister(perhaps Tommen and Myrcella too) with a hint of kindness and sense.
Robert's downfall was marrying a Lannister, in my opinion, and a few other things.
@@ericbana191 and even then we see that Tyrion is damaged in the context of sex and romance considering he kills Shae in a rage for “betraying” him when in reality she was a whore and had no choice to defy lord Tywin. There is also Tyrion not being self aware considering his pouting about Sansa not finding him sexually attractive. A 13 year old girl is not sexually attracted to an ugly, disfigured, 33 year old dwarf and he gets frustrated over it.
all the sound of wind, lightning, this is what i imagined about "Kingdom of Stormlands" such powerful and magnificent name!
Exactly! Such a brilliant scene for the atmosphere itself
The cause of the constant storms is the gods expressing their anger upon the land from the time when roberts/borros’s ancestor banged one of the god’s daughters.
OUR IS FURYYY!
"Go home, pup, and tell your mother that the lord of Storm's End is not some dog that she can whistle up in need to set against her foes!"
_King Bobby B 100% approves of this ancestor of his._
Stannis would hate him, the man can't even read.
@@Amantducafe not many noblemen knew how to read, especially in the High Middle Ages (476 aC-1000).
@@cristinademartini1284 Few
@@Amantducafe 😂🤣! Applause for you, a true Stannis follower 👏
@@Amantducafe ye lmao but he was funny
Good casting choice. Totally reflected book Borros's personality except they excluded 'the b*tch' before 'your mother' part.
Hehe probably toned it down
The book is a third person account of the history, the show how it actually happened, whoever wrote it threw some flavour into the story regardless of how the characters acted
@@MrNuclearturtle facts
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@@MrNuclearturtle wow ur a dummy if u actually think the show is cannon... rhaenys never killed a bunch of ppl in the dragon Pitt that was made up ..
Laena never died by dragon fire just regular child birth gone wrong
1:13 that “boi” pronunciation is priceless 😂😂
The Blacks had every reason not to send Luce and to send Rhaenys to treat with Borros instead. Luce is 14, is an in-confident second son, and has no experience wheeling and dealing with fickle high lords. Not to mention his dragon is a mere pup. He should have been sent to the Eyrie to meet with his mother's aunt whose support was all but certain and Rhaenys should have been sent to Storm's End. She has the closer familial relation Borros, shes more experienced, her dragon is swifter and could have probably gotten her to Storm's End before Aemond and Vhagar could arrive and broker his marriage alliance, and Aemond has no personal gripes with Rhaenys to motivate him to harass her in transit and even if he did Meleys is not the pup Arrax is and is large enough she could threaten Vhagar physically. Send Baela to patrol the gullet on Moondancer instead.
Honestly? Yeah. You're right. It was a massive fuck-up and I think the only reason Rhaenys WASN'T sent is that Rhaenyra was expecting the Baratheons to be more loyal and the security of the Blackwater to be less certain.
Meleys was a credible threat to Vhagar and Rhaenys was a credible threat to Aemond. It most likely would've prevented a war.
...I say 'most likely' because Borros Baratheon is a fucking halfwit, but hey-ho.
Truly agree with you. They should have sent the ravens
your hindsight is perfect. another armchair warrior with all the answers.
bad writing from the showrunners. again. it all happens again mark my words
@@ancient.warrior you do know this was based on the book. The showrunner didn't write this
Roger Evans looks pretty good as Borros.
Roger Evans is sadly not Brian Blessed.
@@TehCrushinatorz Brian would've made an amazing Borros, but sadly he's too old. Maybe someday Brian will voice a Baratheon in a asoiaf animation, we can dream.
Love how he laughs at his little joke, no one else laughs, then he’s pissed off for the rest of the scene
I love how the actor delivered the "whistle up" bit from his line.
"borros baratheon. who named you, some half-wit with a stutter?"
"CAREFUL CREGAN! CAREFUL NOW!"
My friend! We meet again! But this time in a House of the Dragon video! 😘
I’ll have your head on a SPIKEEE
@@nicholash1691 "I'LL PUT IT THERE MYSELF YOU FOOL!"
@@nfbappy Apart from the Baratheons, Lannisters and Hightowers, of course. Cregan lets some Blackwood girl talk him out of continuing and finishing the war and out of executing two faced Corlys Velaryon, like a simp. At least Borros is dead by then, won't have to see it.
@@thelaw6267 They were wise not to discontinue the war. The male heirs on the side of the Greens were dead. Continuing the war further would be seen as an attempt to annihilate the enemy houses.
Keep in mind that the Baratheons still had 3 of their strongest bannermen stay out of the war (Houses Caron, Dondarrion and Selmy in the Dornish marches) . Lady Baratheon is the daughter of the most powerful bannerman of Storm's end (Lord Caron).
Oldtown is the largest and wealthiest city in the south. Attempting to sack it runs the risk of drawing the Tyrells into war. The Tyrells had suffered literally no damage during the Dance and the entirety of their army was intact. Not to mention their own wealth.
Cregan is what Robb would have been. Formidable warrior and military leader but woefully inept at geopolitics.
Never seen someone who couldn't read with so much confidence. Good for this guy
Bobby B's ancestor, Bory B.
😂🤣😂
I approve of this!
Bobby B proud of his ancestor.
I really liked the scene. It shows how much most of the lords are just fed up with all this Targaryan in-fighting. Like do I really have to summon my vassals to war just cuz you guys can't figure out the sucession?
Haha yessss! But indeed wars are built on something truly stupid sometimes.
This scene is excellent. The eerie sound of rain and thunder in the background, dark theme and the suspense of the upcoming fight.
Do we really trust that master to have conveyed the right tone of the message...?
No, it is implied that maesters are responsible for dragons extinction. Perhaps this would reveal in kater seasons.
Also interesting to note is that Borros in F&B was apparently misinformed as to how he was related to Princess Rhaenys.
She was actually his aunt, but he seemed to be under the impression she was a great-aunt. It seems his Maester never thought to correct him.
Appears the Storm’s End Maester was definitely pulling for the Greens.
@@callumwebb4927 they were first cousins.
*Barbrey Dustin has entered the chat*
@Steven Hancock yes, gray rats and her implication of maester responsible for southern conspiracy, and archmaester merwyn told sam that qe are responsible for dragons extinction, its looks like maesters hate magic and want to build a world based on science. But i dont think they are in league with white walkers, i believe faceless men are somehow responsible for doom of valyria and probably working in favor of white walkers/ others.
At least he didn't tell him to go find the breast plate strecher
Yup, Robert is 100% a descendant from this guy
"Ours is the fury"
I really love their House words. Truly badass!
Wanted him to drop some classic Bobby C. burns.
“Lucerys.. gods what a stupid name! Who named you that, boy? Did they stutter? Hahaha WINE!”
Honestly Borros seems to be reasonable and fair when came to the fight.
can't wait to see Dalton, he has quite the same reaction as Borros when he is informed of the civil war, laughing at the information because he knows he's free to do whatever he wants while the dragon riders are fighting each other
Who is Dalton?
@@ijasonxi1 Dalton Greyjoy, the Red Kraken
@@giorgigogolashvili3097 Oh I didnt know the Greyjoys would appear in HOD! Nice!
@@ijasonxi1 This particular greyjoy is borderline psychotic though you might end up hating his guts 😂
@@BALLARDTWIN Lol that's why we love this show.
The Baratheon maidens would have me acting the fool
He's definitely a Baratheon
Can kill 12 men while wounded because he's no bitch.
Cannot read because that's for nerds.
Peak Baratheon build.
Aye. Stern, dark of hair and strong of will.
@@fernandorivera4719 lmao! Yeah reading is for NERDSSSS
He's already my favourite character!
High five my fellow Baratheon fan!
To be a savage, when asked which one of my daughters do you plan to wed? Luc should of said “all of them, of course!” “They will bare me many many children.” 😅
Robert actually would’ve laughed at that. Dunno if Borros would’ve but perhaps he’d at least be mildly amused
You can see his actor having a blast playing him
"What are we, some kind of House of the Dragon?"
“This won’t stop me. I can’t read.”
Which of my daughters will you Wed boi?
"Whichever one you want me to they're all hot."
War averted. Credits roll
Augmenautus rex no its not.
Luke is already pledged to the Valaryon girl.
If he married a Baratheon girl, he breaks his oath to house Valaryon, which might cause House Valaryon to switch sides and join the Greens, or flat out sit out the war and take no sides.
Either way, that would weaken the position of the Blacks.
@@abongilezolanipeterson5588
Why everyone call them Velaryon girls ?? They are flking Targaryens they are daughters of Daemon, the only Velaryon here is Luce himself (by inheritance at least)
@@craftyunicorn4291 Luce aint no Valeryon, that's a bloody Strong bastard
@@abongilezolanipeterson5588
(By inheritance at least)
Compare to Robert
He has that Substitute teacher lower loud voice while Robert is that strict teacher who'll echoed the room 😂
0:19 love the smile 😄😂
robert baratheon definetely has borros's DNA in his bloods.
And then he dips out and spends almost the entire Dance hiding out in the Red Mountains chasing a Vulture King.
Only to lose to the Tullys during their Jim Henson phase.
Worst idea in the world to send a fourteen-year-old boy to negotiate your alliances.
Yeah it was a bad decision. She wanted his dragon to scare the baratheons. But she did not count on Aemond.
How I wish Mark Addy were cast as Borros Baratheon instead. His voice acting in the Season 5 guide was perfect.
I searched that right now and youre right, what a booming voice!
Borros is supposed to be relatively young here, Mark Addy is pushing 60.
@@chingizzhylkybayev8575 I’m sure they could pretty him up
@@chingizzhylkybayev8575 he was pushing it in GoT, Ned and Robert are meant to be in their late 30s lol
Time travelling Robert Baratheon?
Borros Baratheon: "Let's do horsetrading with the dragon people."
Hopefully they keep him for the later season and don't recast. His one battle scene will be epic
“I’d rather dance in hell than wear your chains!!”
@@JrWestCoast who wins a baratheon chad or a muppet? A muppet ...
What was his fight scene ?
@@Callsign_Prophet He fought in the last battle of the Dance which occured just north of King's Landing in the mud when his army faced off against the Riverlands forces led by houses tully and blackwood where he was offered mercy if he surrendered but refused and fought on to the bitter end.
They're not recasting any longer, except maybe for the youngest kids. The rest of the series is only going to be over the course of a few years, so there's no need to change actors, especially not the adult actors.
And yes, Borros's end will be an epic last stand.
Lord Boremund was stone, hard and strong and unmoving. Lord Borros was the wind that rages and howls and blows this way and that.
The way Aemond stands is even scary LMAO.
"The house of the stag does not seem to know how to read"
edit: bro rly called a maester to read a message. Imagine studying for 50 years in the citadel under ravenry and being sent to serve a lord to help him read
Yeah he's definitely Roberts ancestor alright
Lucerys should’ve done what Jacaerys did. Jace offered a Targaryen daughter to house stark, aka a future arrangement one that can be made down the rode. Hell, Luke could’ve even offered up Aegon or Viserys, even Joffrey.
Sadly seems like Luke has not been taught yet the art of negotiating tactics.
@@NinaC it does match with his character. Luke is more insecure about being a bastard. He rejects himself from power and didn’t even want Driftmark. Jake takes pride and enthusiasm in his role as heir. He learns high Valyrian and speaks often with his mother, even joining Daemon and learning about oaths. It’s him to recommend using themselves as messengers.
Luke should've said as prince he can get all 4 daughters married to high profile houses and then tell Aemom he likes his eye patch while walking out
Baratheon can already do that. He wants a royal match.
Bold of you to assume luke is as bold as you.
Gods he looks strong
This is my favorite throne and throne room we’ve seen in GOT
Stanno Manno would grind his teeth into his gums seeing his ancestor unable to read.
The way he says "Boooy..." hahaha
Definitely Bobby B’s ancestor.
Never knew Zach Galifankiz was Robert's Great, great Grandad.
Gods, the Baratheons were strong then...
"The house of the dragon doesn't seem to know who rules it"
And the house Baratheon doesn't seem to know how to read
House Baratheon is above reading.
The face Aemond does is just priceless... If he didn't demanded for Luke's eye like a crazy bitch that would be the best vilain scene i've seen in a while...
This is so true. The fact he can speak so much without saying anything and we as the viewers know exactly what he is thinking. He even have that mocking “sympathy” when Luke didnt have any offered terms.
How is he a bitch tho ?
@@nihaalsandim9986 The way he just demanded for Luke's eye just made that impression on me, he got the biggest dragon in the world for it, and just like that he risked an aliance just to get a little "strong boy" revenge. Well, he got much more than an eye in the end even if not his intention xD
@@derago-dev How did he risk the alliance? You're overanalyzing like a lunatic. Relax yourself.
@@jackwarner8253 Overracting about something like that in the throne room of a powerful volatile ally, while almost going agains't his will just after forming an alliance... You might not see how this could fuck everything up, but i can...
Feels like suddenly GoT world turned into Middle Earth.
Somewhere there is a Palantir hidden in this castle
I thought he asked for the maester because it wasn't lordly for him to read his own messages, like a very royal type of power move
"I'll marry all of them my lord ...all. of. them."
Hahaha! Borros B will like you then!
Luc has 3 single brothers should offer Joffrey
Jace already sets Joffrey up on his journey. That could be a problem.
@@mst3KGf
I but luc doesn't know that, luc should have shown initiotive like his brother. He could have offer Jeffrey then maximum it would switch to aegon
That chair must be kicking his ass, literally
What a boss!!
"Luce Targaryen... Gods what a stupid name"
Actually, his surname is Velaryon (legally; but everyone knows that his real name should be Strong xD!)
Episode 10 has leaked peeps! I just have to watch (sorry HBO! But I will still rewatch tomorrow for better quality.) But yesss MY FAVORITE HOUSE! ALL HAIL HOUSE BARATHEON! And check out Aemond Targaryen acting without saying anything. Love that!
Just have to say I saturated this as the original is truly dark. And cut some part due to HBO copyright. I tried to make it seamless though but you can still tell the cut parts.
The idea that Baratheons had been kick-starting a civil war and (if you haven't read the book, spoilers:) Starks ending it since the first century post-Conquest is fucking hilarious 😂 Baratheons starting some shit and it gets out of hand but they *live* for it like, 'YOU CAME TO THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL' and the Starks goes 'ah shit here we go again' kind of dynamic. Their respective house mottos also reflect this, "Ours is The Fury" = "Fuck Around" & "Winter is Coming" = "Find Out" 🤣🤣🤣
Haha that is why I love Baratheons and Starks! They are the best houses ever. They go so well. Ned+Robert, Jon+Stannis, even Arya + Gendry 😂 And we will find out soon Cregan and …. 😛
1:11 aemond already claimed the only pretty daughter lol
Disagree, the one in the middle of the remaining three is pretty as well
@@sereese4937 In the books, the "ugly" one tells Aemond out of spite "I thought he had taken your eye, not your balls" which is part of the reason Aemon chases Luke in the tempest.
@@Kurozu1991 To me too.
They all seemed pretty to me. To be honest I would marry a clown if she is a daughter of a kingdom-tier lord. Just imagine the prestige that would bring. I don't even mention the wealth.
GODS HE WAS STRONG THEN
The seed is strong.
He died already when he laughed
"they never tell you how they all shit them selves" Bobby B
His voice isn’t kingly like roberts, when Robert narrated the short for the dance it was perfect.
i wonder if robert got his love of blackberry jam from this piece of work
REST HIS SOUL. Strong boy
He looks like the guy from The Hangover.
Youre not wrong friend.
I don't know why but after this scene i eagerly wait to see jace with cregan.
They need to cast a really good Cregan. Will be such a hype on season 2! Winter is Coming!
Wonder if his dragon will actually leave eggs at Winterfell.
@@NinaC they screwed up Aemond.. hope they dont do that with Cregan.
@@goodfortune4317 wtf r u talking about??aemond is one of the best cast characters in entire GOT franchise😬
@@OptimusDelta No. Daemon is one of the best cast characters in the entire series.. but Aemond who is anti Daemon, should have the same impact as Matt Smith's Daemon.. but he failed.. he's just not as menacing.. the younger Aemond did a great job tho.
If you listen you can still hear the essos twang in his voice that hasn’t quite diluted yet from orys. By time of Robert it’s gone entirely.
Dude is zeus
Interesting, the maester had to read the message and explain it to Baratheon. He's a functional illiterate. Off topic, I know, but my observation.
His throne is so cool
Well he is a Baratheon, Robert's armour was so cool in battle of trident
Zach Galafinakis in a serious role, wow..
Yep, that's Bobby B's ancestor alright
When i first saw him, i thought: "Damn: this man must be Robert's past incarnation!" XD
I now know why every ruler goes crazy they all have the most uncomfortable thrones
He looks like Scrye Productions
Someone arrange for Aemond to be Robert pattinson batmans joker, it makes sense, we all know it would work make it happen
Such a perfect casting. He will be so good
It was such a dumb decision of Rhaenyra to send her bastards as messengers. They are obvious targets. It was easy to predict that the Greens might send their dragon as well. It was especially dumb considering Rhaenyra had nothing to offer Borros. Luce should've noped the F out as soon as he saw Vhagar since he knew he had no play here. Also Aemond should've known better that to continue his pursuit when he clearly saw that Vhagar was not playing around but hunting the lesser dragon.
Sending her children shows sincerity and respect to the houses they are trying to convince to join their side. Harming envoys/messengers at this time was unexpected and heavily frowned upon. Similar to how everyone knew Walder Frey was a piece of shit but people still didn't expect him to break bread with Rob under his roof and murder them at a wedding. Not to mention most of the characters in this time period were used to peace their entire lives.
They are not bastards
@@OptimusDelta They are bastards, literally everyone knows it.
@@OptimusDelta that means they are black and got that n word pass, sick
@@OptimusDelta They are.
“Start the damn joust before i piss me self”
More like: "Start the damn Dance before i piss myself"🤣
Everyone knows he's gonna be the first one to go
I like to think that Borros knows how to read but just refuse to do so.
Funny, you swear an oath, then demand presents to honor said oath. This guy a Baratheon or a Frey
An oath his father made, not him. And in the feudal time, the oaths were reciprocate (The king granted lands and riches in change of military forces and support). What Borros did here was perfectly reasonable and justified, since Rhaenyra didn't offer anything for his support. Aegon II did.
@@cristinademartini1284 To become Lord, he would have had to renew his families oath. Plus everything else you said was nonsense. An oath is worthless if you require more. Maybe perks and prizes afterword, but not before.
@@jordanmc9015 And he did renew his family oath to Aegon: maybe he is an usurper, but his incoronation was legally performed, therefore at ehis point it seems like Aegon is the legittimate king and Rhaenyra the usurper (and many people thought like that even before). The current situation is that there two people who claim to be the real sovereign of the kingdom, and there are forming formations to both the sides.
What was nonsense in what I said? As I said, BOREMUND made that oath, not him. So Borros doesn't feel entitled to keep an oath he didn't. In middle ages, the oath between the feudal lord and his vassal was reciprocate (i give you that in exchange of you give me, etc).
And please, many people don't give a crap about oaths when it comes to their own. Viserys himself told Rhaenyra that anyone at court think primarily about their own advantage. Rhaenyra should have thought about that words very carefully before sending her son at Storm's End to demand loyalty with nothing in return.
@@jordanmc9015 That's the point, Viserys didn't make anyone renew their oaths to Rhaenyra, Borros has no obligation to support her
@@nicolas0402 not how that works. She was heir, lost to a coup. Renewing vows is a tradition. Your vow follows to the next ruler. It doesn't disappear.
The irony of it being a Baratheon. After Bobby pops his clogs they have a situation where the obvious bastards of the Queen call into question the legitimacy of the heir and the House of the Stag does not seem to know who rules it.
Borry B!
coral!!! coral!!! I mean carl!!!
like a Borros.
Even a stone mason's daughter could read