My thoughts go straight to the automation aspect of this. Compress during the verse, limit during the pre-chorus, overdrive during the chorus with one smooth automation. Might be a cool tool to play with!
Newfangled Audio also has the best transient processor or limiter i ever heared, it's so natural sounding. In my opinion, it's such a beast and it makes a good pair with Split EQ
it makes a lot of sense to approach compression from new perspectives. after all when OTT was released it pretty much dominated all of EDM for years just because of the way its UI makes you feel like pushing it hard is actually the encouraged thing. but you have to be a little lucky to make a plugin like that. i mean OTT wasn't even a plugin in the beginning, but just a popular Ableton preset, so some random Ableton developer probably just sat there trying to go wild in their compressor plugin and thought it was kind of a funny emotion, saved it as a preset and went to sleep. It surprised a lot of us who already began to think that compression has reached its peak with the countless same-y analog emulation compressors, because apparently it can still happen that sheer compression adds something new, if only presented in a new way. but what will be the next actual thing in the compression plugin world? no one can really know yet
Yes! Something new from Newfangled! His stuff is absolutely remarkable. Every module in Elevate is so damn good, and Generate is an extraordinarily good sounding synth. This plug-in reminds me a lot of Wild Wave Fu by bang! (a JSFX dev). It basically looks like a dynamic waveshaper, but unlike Wild Wave Fu, this has an internal sidechain and release.
Seems it's not so much a new way to approach compression but the recognition of the need to adjust compression, limiting, and saturation all at the same time. I definitely sometimes cycle between adjusting compression and then needing to adjust saturation and limiting, so this might be a more effective way of doing it. Interesting!
I own some of the stuff from Newfangled. I'll try this one. I adore their UIs. They are very user-friendly, easy to use and not stuck into the past. Plus they sound fantastic.
Looks like an interesting plugin, but I think it would've been a lot better if you could use each of those 3 effects that they're including, in parallel. Kind of like iZotope's Neoverb does it with 3 different types of reverbs. Can have a bit of all 3, whereas here it's just the two, and there's no way to have a mix of two that are on the sides.
invigorate so useful instead of reaching for 3 plugins i reach for one. i dont tend to use on key elements like vocals. but especially to bring samples to mix-level it's very useful.
this looks very interesting.. that new things are not easy is not the same as not being more efficient, there's just a little learning curve like everything else 😊
Interesting! The morphing idea between compression, limiting and overdrive/distortion makes sense. It's maybe a more intuitive and affective way to control the compression, rather than a technical one. Many companies try to make 'intuitive' UI's, but the downside is that you often lose control over the fine details. This seems to get the balance right, with a fresh angle to the whole thing. That being said, I prefer the traditional way of adjusting threshold, ratio, attack and release, but that's just because I'm used to them, and I know what to do to get the desired effect. However, this could work for some. I guess time will tell.
Now imagine an a plugin that professionals add their mix process too and build up a databank of info about in which order they commonly approach each step in their mix and such. like a written masterclass from them that you can use to copy their workflow and learn from them while you are working on your own project. Im thinking it could have a list of different mix engineers who have added to this. and you just select one you know about a want to learn from and then follow a sort of step by step guide to follow in the same workflow as that engineer. and having this as a plugin means you dont have to alt tab as well as you could be consistent .you could add, rearrange or remove things in these and save as your personal mix proccess so you don't forget a step. i mean this could be there for creative purposes too. its like taking notes, or learning from experienced engineers notes and editing their notes to suite your workflow better. A plugin that just helps you be more consistent. maybe theres a thing you would like to remember doing in your arrangements or mix that you sometimes forget about. this would help. as it would be a step by step thing. lets say you just mix an already recorded track and you start this plugin and the first thing it tells you is to rename the tracks, put them in order, make groups and folders, gainstage, set the levels to these rms levels, compress until you reach this dynamic range on these sounds, limit or clip at around these peak levels. solve this number of things with an EQ on this and that, reach this tonal balance target on these sounds, and so on. it could help beginners to learn faster and hel everyone else be more consistent in their process. and potentially improve your process by learning from well known successful engineer and edit that process to your likeing so that you can get consistent at it. My memory sucks so stuff like this helps me a lot. but i forget to take advantage of the notes i've been taking to try to stay consistent. but anyway. i think this would be a great asset, especially for beginners.
I think once you get the hang of it, this can be a lot faster to dial in, BUT I'd like to see little numbers that tell me how the ratio is changing when going from left to right. From where I'm sitting this makes more sense in sound-design and production than in mixing and mastering. The speed at which you can drastically vary the processing in ONE plugin with ONE drag of the mouse is what makes this more of a "I will try out what works" instead of a "I know what this track needs and I will dial it in precisely".
Hey man! I beta test for Newfangled Audio (one of the many hahaha!). I will mention this and see if it's something they may be interested in working in there.
i think it would be cool if there was a button and then the UI would go back to being a classical Compressor UI but it would not change the parameters for the current UI design.
You definitely have to watch the overview before digging this one cause the parameters are kinda intricated ^^ But really interesting concept for sure, a bit intimidating but intersting
It looks like a really interesting and quick way to get from a to b, but I feel like I prefer to employee and keep learning the foundational knowledge of the art of mixing rather than what might be the quickest and easiest, even if it means the product isn’t as good, sometimes.
My post vanished 😢...anyhoo...as I was saying! There is an Eventide Newfangled Audio iLok crossgrade available. I just got it for €29. I like that NFA and Eventide reward loyalty. More manufacturers should do this! 🧡
@@Whiteseastudio I know. It was defo posted and there all saved but page reload and gone. I mean I know you hate me after our time in Paris last summer, but it just wasn't working. We both knew that deep inside. Maybe me texting you goodbye from the airport departures was a little insensitive but let it go Wytse. Move on.
4:52 Why did you turn bass up on the input? That's absolutely backwards. The point of having controls like this is so that you can attenuate bass on compression. Instead, you made the bass smash the compressor even more which is why all your examples were distorted after that. All these years later and you still don't have a clue
Honestly, I don't understand why the distortion shape also increases when you pull the knob only to compression and not into overdrive. Shouldn't that only happen when you move the knob all the way to the upper right (overdrive)?
Looks like the compression/lim/dist are all one "circuit" so the curve would be the shape of the compression curve when in that left zone and the dist curve when over to the right.. only glanced at the manual though so might be off
I was excited to see a new release from Newfangled, especially a bus compressor, but what i don't understand is, is it combining Comp, Limit and Distortion ? If i move to the distortion side, have i lost the compression ? Is the middle a combination of compression and distortion plus limiting ? I thought it might be merging a sweet spot between them all, and that the X-Y controller would present an easy way to find different sweet spots.
Just like with Process Audio Sugar, and a Newfangled synth generator I own, this thing feels like it'll eat 20% of an already powerful cpu rig if you're not on an M1. These are all things I wish would be mentioned in reviews (again I don't like trials cause installing and deleting plug ins can be tiresome with all the extra software you have to install sometimes).
To be honest, I was surprised how well Native Instruments' Supercharger performed. Not the GT version, though, but the simple one. Set the input to the green range. Turn one knob. Done. The GT version (extended version) which has all the parameters and more was just distracting in comparison.
Yes,That's true! But it also means ,That you can filter out (remove) from the Compost in your Garden the garbage of rotten Tomatoes out of your Tune🥸 🤩
Don't get you anymore, a mastering engineer who uses his ears all the time, but only makes comments about the UI. Nothing to say about the sound anymore? You have any hardware to compare these plugs to?
THe connection between eventide and newfangled audio is Dan Gillespie who was( one of ) dsp developer for eventide back in the day . This channel is ridiculously bad , seriously can't believe people are sponsoring this dude
I pass. This plugin seemingly has been created to avoid layoffs over at New Fangled by giving them a project to do. Black Salt Audio Oxygen is way more useful.
Everything this company makes is really innovative and very promising.
My thoughts go straight to the automation aspect of this. Compress during the verse, limit during the pre-chorus, overdrive during the chorus with one smooth automation. Might be a cool tool to play with!
I love Newfangled Audio's stuff. So quick to use, and Dan definitely does his research. Which he usually also put's on his website.
NEWFANGLED IS DOPE
Newfangled Audio also has the best transient processor or limiter i ever heared, it's so natural sounding. In my opinion, it's such a beast and it makes a good pair with Split EQ
Try Spiff from OEK
I wonder if NFA will have a balck friday sale. I want to get all their plug ins.
it makes a lot of sense to approach compression from new perspectives. after all when OTT was released it pretty much dominated all of EDM for years just because of the way its UI makes you feel like pushing it hard is actually the encouraged thing. but you have to be a little lucky to make a plugin like that. i mean OTT wasn't even a plugin in the beginning, but just a popular Ableton preset, so some random Ableton developer probably just sat there trying to go wild in their compressor plugin and thought it was kind of a funny emotion, saved it as a preset and went to sleep. It surprised a lot of us who already began to think that compression has reached its peak with the countless same-y analog emulation compressors, because apparently it can still happen that sheer compression adds something new, if only presented in a new way. but what will be the next actual thing in the compression plugin world? no one can really know yet
Yes! Something new from Newfangled! His stuff is absolutely remarkable. Every module in Elevate is so damn good, and Generate is an extraordinarily good sounding synth.
This plug-in reminds me a lot of Wild Wave Fu by bang! (a JSFX dev). It basically looks like a dynamic waveshaper, but unlike Wild Wave Fu, this has an internal sidechain and release.
Just got this today. Agree on the Elevate bundle, and Generate is a fantastic synth!
Thanks. It looks like fun to play with. Love and light.
Seems it's not so much a new way to approach compression but the recognition of the need to adjust compression, limiting, and saturation all at the same time. I definitely sometimes cycle between adjusting compression and then needing to adjust saturation and limiting, so this might be a more effective way of doing it. Interesting!
i love everything by newfangled audio. great people great apps great sound
I own some of the stuff from Newfangled. I'll try this one.
I adore their UIs. They are very user-friendly, easy to use and not stuck into the past. Plus they sound fantastic.
Thanks. I highly, highly regard your reviews before purchasing anything. Cheers.
I'd like to check it out. I use Newfangled Elevate a lot. Seems interesting. Thanks for the video
love these vids. please make them forever lol thanks for the hard work
I love the @NewfangledAudio 'Saturate' plugin. It's my go-to for adding that "oomph" (With propriatary pre-processing, it WILL give a cool result)
Looks like an interesting plugin, but I think it would've been a lot better if you could use each of those 3 effects that they're including, in parallel. Kind of like iZotope's Neoverb does it with 3 different types of reverbs. Can have a bit of all 3, whereas here it's just the two, and there's no way to have a mix of two that are on the sides.
invigorate so useful instead of reaching for 3 plugins i reach for one. i dont tend to use on key elements like vocals. but especially to bring samples to mix-level it's very useful.
this looks very interesting.. that new things are not easy is not the same as not being more efficient, there's just a little learning curve like everything else 😊
i need this, its going to be great on vocals compressor,limit, and distort all in one
Is it possible to make some kind of plug-in wrapper that adds gain compensation to any plug-in? That would be incredible.
Danggg. That auto gain sounds glorious!
Auto gain done right.
gonna sound crazy on some parallel compression
Interesting! The morphing idea between compression, limiting and overdrive/distortion makes sense. It's maybe a more intuitive and affective way to control the compression, rather than a technical one. Many companies try to make 'intuitive' UI's, but the downside is that you often lose control over the fine details. This seems to get the balance right, with a fresh angle to the whole thing. That being said, I prefer the traditional way of adjusting threshold, ratio, attack and release, but that's just because I'm used to them, and I know what to do to get the desired effect. However, this could work for some. I guess time will tell.
Now imagine an a plugin that professionals add their mix process too and build up a databank of info about in which order they commonly approach each step in their mix and such. like a written masterclass from them that you can use to copy their workflow and learn from them while you are working on your own project. Im thinking it could have a list of different mix engineers who have added to this. and you just select one you know about a want to learn from and then follow a sort of step by step guide to follow in the same workflow as that engineer. and having this as a plugin means you dont have to alt tab as well as you could be consistent .you could add, rearrange or remove things in these and save as your personal mix proccess so you don't forget a step. i mean this could be there for creative purposes too. its like taking notes, or learning from experienced engineers notes and editing their notes to suite your workflow better. A plugin that just helps you be more consistent. maybe theres a thing you would like to remember doing in your arrangements or mix that you sometimes forget about. this would help. as it would be a step by step thing. lets say you just mix an already recorded track and you start this plugin and the first thing it tells you is to rename the tracks, put them in order, make groups and folders, gainstage, set the levels to these rms levels, compress until you reach this dynamic range on these sounds, limit or clip at around these peak levels. solve this number of things with an EQ on this and that, reach this tonal balance target on these sounds, and so on. it could help beginners to learn faster and hel everyone else be more consistent in their process. and potentially improve your process by learning from well known successful engineer and edit that process to your likeing so that you can get consistent at it. My memory sucks so stuff like this helps me a lot. but i forget to take advantage of the notes i've been taking to try to stay consistent. but anyway. i think this would be a great asset, especially for beginners.
I think once you get the hang of it, this can be a lot faster to dial in, BUT I'd like to see little numbers that tell me how the ratio is changing when going from left to right. From where I'm sitting this makes more sense in sound-design and production than in mixing and mastering. The speed at which you can drastically vary the processing in ONE plugin with ONE drag of the mouse is what makes this more of a "I will try out what works" instead of a "I know what this track needs and I will dial it in precisely".
Hey man! I beta test for Newfangled Audio (one of the many hahaha!). I will mention this and see if it's something they may be interested in working in there.
Like the neon nails
Man that song is bumping as hell
Very interesting. However. I'm very accustomed to more of a traditional UI - going on 30 years now. 😃
THAT IS SOME NICE GAIN COMPENSATION RIGHT THERE! RIGHT DIRK ULLRICH?
Nice, I kind of believe this is for instruments though?
i think it would be cool if there was a button and then the UI would go back to being a classical Compressor UI but it would not change the parameters for the current UI design.
What happened to Higthnote?! Am using it becouse of ur channel...
You definitely have to watch the overview before digging this one cause the parameters are kinda intricated ^^ But really interesting concept for sure, a bit intimidating but intersting
It looks like a really interesting and quick way to get from a to b, but I feel like I prefer to employee and keep learning the foundational knowledge of the art of mixing rather than what might be the quickest and easiest, even if it means the product isn’t as good, sometimes.
Their clipper is the best sounding clipper Inown
What’s the real name of this song? It’s fantastic!
ua-cam.com/video/gUaPcRG0jlU/v-deo.html
can you do the new cradle plug in? the spirit?
My post vanished 😢...anyhoo...as I was saying! There is an Eventide Newfangled Audio iLok crossgrade available. I just got it for €29. I like that NFA and Eventide reward loyalty. More manufacturers should do this! 🧡
Posts shouldn't vanish 🤔
@@Whiteseastudio I know. It was defo posted and there all saved but page reload and gone. I mean I know you hate me after our time in Paris last summer, but it just wasn't working. We both knew that deep inside. Maybe me texting you goodbye from the airport departures was a little insensitive but let it go Wytse. Move on.
4:52 Why did you turn bass up on the input? That's absolutely backwards. The point of having controls like this is so that you can attenuate bass on compression. Instead, you made the bass smash the compressor even more which is why all your examples were distorted after that. All these years later and you still don't have a clue
Honestly, I don't understand why the distortion shape also increases when you pull the knob only to compression and not into overdrive. Shouldn't that only happen when you move the knob all the way to the upper right (overdrive)?
Looks like the compression/lim/dist are all one "circuit" so the curve would be the shape of the compression curve when in that left zone and the dist curve when over to the right.. only glanced at the manual though so might be off
I was excited to see a new release from Newfangled, especially a bus compressor, but what i don't understand is, is it combining Comp, Limit and Distortion ? If i move to the distortion side, have i lost the compression ? Is the middle a combination of compression and distortion plus limiting ? I thought it might be merging a sweet spot between them all, and that the X-Y controller would present an easy way to find different sweet spots.
Quite funny.. I was testing newfangled plugins today and was thinking, Wytse didn’t mangled them, yet.
COMPFILTER to me means side chain filter !
Whats the name of the track 🤔 ?
i like the Track too. Which Synth has this brass sound?
🎧🤘”IMPERIALICIOUS” by “WE SUCK AS HUMANS” Out Soon!🤘🎧 Rock it out! Download it to support!
Just like with Process Audio Sugar, and a Newfangled synth generator I own, this thing feels like it'll eat 20% of an already powerful cpu rig if you're not on an M1.
These are all things I wish would be mentioned in reviews (again I don't like trials cause installing and deleting plug ins can be tiresome with all the extra software you have to install sometimes).
To be honest, I was surprised how well Native Instruments' Supercharger performed. Not the GT version, though, but the simple one. Set the input to the green range. Turn one knob. Done.
The GT version (extended version) which has all the parameters and more was just distracting in comparison.
I used to use that plugin when I first started, I felt like it was powerful for it what it was and it was free
Track name ?
They're gonna say sandstorm but I really would like to know too
whoever made this has a really good understanding of those 80s tropes and nuances
ua-cam.com/video/hAW6NzUhH-s/v-deo.html
Needs rack screws...
snake in the mierder oil ?
crossgrade price 29.99, sweet. Need to test now
Crossgrade from what?
@@fcmas i have the elevate bundle and generate
@@fcmas Elevate Mastering Bundle
A useful video on using this plugin here: ua-cam.com/video/Akg_2GQ7-Ws/v-deo.html
FIIIIIIRRRSSST!!🥇🥲🙏
Comment for da algorithm
Streak count: 105
Comp Filter means Composition Fiter. It takes your composition out of the tune ....
Yes,That's true! But it also means ,That you can filter out (remove) from the Compost in your Garden the garbage of rotten Tomatoes out of your Tune🥸 🤩
The video title was snake oil.
Don't get you anymore, a mastering engineer who uses his ears all the time, but only makes comments about the UI.
Nothing to say about the sound anymore? You have any hardware to compare these plugs to?
THe connection between eventide and newfangled audio is Dan Gillespie who was( one of ) dsp developer for eventide back in the day .
This channel is ridiculously bad , seriously can't believe people are sponsoring this dude
I pass. This plugin seemingly has been created to avoid layoffs over at New Fangled by giving them a project to do.
Black Salt Audio Oxygen is way more useful.
cpu bug
First one
New way to use compression? snake oil
complete waste of time but you got some advertising in there well done...
IMVHO smart::comp has the best compressor interface. The clean_compression vs saturation dial is a good idea, though
I think plugin devs are running out of useful ideas ....nice toy though.