Attack Force Z 1981 (Action Movie) Mel Gibson blasting his way to hell and back!

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  • @philipchretienkarlsson8157
    @philipchretienkarlsson8157 2 місяці тому +4

    Truly a great movie, showing s what real courage is ... an entire village, men and women ready to give their lives down to the last one to chase away the ennemy.

  • @juliewoods6534
    @juliewoods6534 2 місяці тому +13

    Finally a movie showing the correct way to launch a craft from a submarine.

  • @harmankevin43
    @harmankevin43 3 місяці тому +8

    Brings back memories watching this movie as a kid

    • @robert-oq9jq
      @robert-oq9jq 2 місяці тому +2

      Yep I remember exactly where I was at when I saw it I was over at some friends of the families and I was just a kid My mom and her friend kept telling the old guy I was watching it with it was too rough for the kids and he told them to shut their pie holes and bring him back a beer and we laughed and i thought he was cool

    • @SciRado
      @SciRado 2 місяці тому +1

      I believe the first time? I saw it was on actual real cable television. Not this junk but they forced down your throat nowadays. Gotta miss those days.

    • @pablogibbs9728
      @pablogibbs9728 2 місяці тому

      Wow never mel Gibson was this for back. Good movie

    • @harmankevin43
      @harmankevin43 Місяць тому

      Play WAR as Kidd I collected military memorabilia from all my neighbors from WWII kills me I had a real WWII German Knights Cross. Lol!!!!! 15,000 medal. Lost in the woods!!!!!
      Uggghhhhhhh

  • @sverrearnes7769
    @sverrearnes7769 Місяць тому

    Charming, more than anything else! Top coming stars together in an amateurish movie, but whatsoever really worth watching.

  • @BirdDogey1
    @BirdDogey1 Місяць тому

    Glad to see this on YT.

  • @nvrbetrwhoohoo3941
    @nvrbetrwhoohoo3941 2 місяці тому +5

    I watched this movie when it first came out on HBO, over and over and over again. My dad was a US Army Green Beret and served during the Vietnam War. He watched the movie with me one time. My dad laughed his butt off when that scene of San Neil putting that guy out of his misery! He was adamant that would never happen. He did tell me with a wink and a nod, that if the guy Sam Neil put out of his misery was an enemy, that it might be realistic.

    • @joeanon5788
      @joeanon5788 2 місяці тому

      I was in cold war Germany in 1978-1980, and I see stuff that is laughable too. Deep cover jungle recovery mission, and they dont even have face paint on or camo. And of course shooting one of their own. That makes for great morale in the unit. When they first get there and the guy throws Mel his ruck, and 2 minutes later he walks down and joins them. And some have bush hats, and Mel and another have berets, and one with no headgear. And were silencers that well developed in 1940-ish? Hell were they even that good in 1981? I'm only 28 minutes in and just getting started.

    • @nomadmarauder-dw9re
      @nomadmarauder-dw9re 25 днів тому

      @@joeanon5788 The suppressors of that era were excellent. Go to Forgotten Weapons.

  • @thecanticleofcrom4787
    @thecanticleofcrom4787 2 місяці тому +1

    Woo! My grandad was in Z Force. Nice upload :)

  • @markg1531
    @markg1531 2 місяці тому +2

    I deeply admire brave fighting men.

  • @Mick-h7i
    @Mick-h7i 2 місяці тому +2

    The film Gallipoli is the one for me..Classic early Gibson ✔️

  • @STEPHENAUNGO
    @STEPHENAUNGO 3 місяці тому +1

    The movie is so wonderful

  • @TheHighlanderX
    @TheHighlanderX 4 місяці тому +3

    Thank you 🍿🥤

  • @堅実ひむら
    @堅実ひむら Місяць тому

    Amazing
    Movie😢😢😢😢😢

  • @juanalvarez5550
    @juanalvarez5550 4 місяці тому +19

    In 1981 I was in he army in Spain.
    Green Berets.
    In regimiento Mila, founded in Milan, Italia, in 1535.
    We had this... We had that type of uniforms and weapons.
    There were no drones, no remote-controlled bombs. The work was done by hand: you had to approach the enemy during the night without being seen and put him out of combat. For the Spanish, that means capturing the enemy or forcing them to surrender. What times....

    • @111222333daniel
      @111222333daniel 3 місяці тому +1

      Actually we have improved. We have more tech in Spanish Army and some jobs can be done safely to keep our soldier lifes.

    • @GarysActionManChannel1970
      @GarysActionManChannel1970 3 місяці тому

      1990s soldiering was a basic affair

    • @fifthbusiness1678
      @fifthbusiness1678 Місяць тому

      I completely believe you(tube).

    • @GarysActionManChannel1970
      @GarysActionManChannel1970 Місяць тому

      @111222333daniel In the 90s, the UK and Spanish military had the worst service rifled ever issued to a Western Army (SA80 and CETME L) Uncle/Tio H&K had to sort it out 🤣🤣

  • @blackbird5634
    @blackbird5634 2 місяці тому +3

    I remember thinking as a kid: "This is what adults do?"

    • @acehunter3229
      @acehunter3229 Місяць тому +1

      They still do this kind of stuff in war games on steam 🤣 they think they are in a battle

  • @tonyli97
    @tonyli97 Місяць тому +1

    Amazingly found Sylvia Chang 張艾嘉 and Ko Chun-hsiung 柯俊雄 in this movie!

  • @mrAq_pA
    @mrAq_pA Місяць тому

    No one is left behind.... alive ! .....

  • @BookishAsia
    @BookishAsia 2 місяці тому +1

    A movie with an interesting backstory. For a start, it was filmed in Taiwan and there was some friction between the actors after the director was changed. The story of the making of the movie is told in a Formosa Files podcast episode (S3-E2). I enjoyed the movie - seeing a young Mel Gibson and Sam Neill - and trying (mostly unsuccessfully) to recognize filming locations; well, except for the very end of the story. I won't give anything away but will just say - be prepared for a non-Hollywood ending.

  • @Unit8200-rl8ev
    @Unit8200-rl8ev 2 місяці тому +8

    After the Japanese were defeated in 1945, in Indonesia there was a popular rebellion against the Dutch Colonial Government, which re-armed the Japanese POWs and employed them to forcibly put down the rebellion. WW2 was one Fascist empire versus another.

    • @justinmangus567
      @justinmangus567 2 місяці тому

      who were fascists in indonesia? surely not the Netherlands lol

    • @sunnyjim1355
      @sunnyjim1355 Місяць тому

      yet another ignoramus who throws around the term 'fascist' like it's confetti. 🙄

  • @paulobrilhante9095
    @paulobrilhante9095 3 місяці тому

    MARAVILHOSO FILME ÉPICO... CENAS BEM PRODUZIDAS, BONS ATORES, NÃO SE FAZ MAIS BONS FILMES ASSIM COM A CÂMERA DIRECIONADA NAS CENAS SEM MOVIMENTOS, MARAVILHOSA FORMA DE FAZER FILMES !

  • @mikesilva3868
    @mikesilva3868 4 місяці тому +5

    Good movie 😊

    • @luxbeci2
      @luxbeci2 3 місяці тому

      Why?? Very boring

  • @ENIGMAXII2112
    @ENIGMAXII2112 4 місяці тому +9

    Movie has some very peaceful surroundings..

  • @mad_poet_70s
    @mad_poet_70s 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for an interesting war film🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✌️

  • @garygood6804
    @garygood6804 3 місяці тому +3

    So sam neil and mel gibson?

  • @krausfranz30
    @krausfranz30 3 місяці тому +1

    Der Film ist einfach nur gut Kollege 👍👍🇩🇪👍🇩🇪👍👍🇩🇪👍👍🇩🇪👍👍

  • @ConstantineJoseph
    @ConstantineJoseph Місяць тому

    Didn't know Sam Neill could speak Mandarin. Also Mel Gibson's binoculars aren't WW2 era binos, they are cold war era American ones

  • @RafniMuhammad75
    @RafniMuhammad75 4 місяці тому

    Very good movies 🎬

  • @PhilipShaw-p2j
    @PhilipShaw-p2j 2 місяці тому

    Umbrella words.

  • @ysmaelabance7753
    @ysmaelabance7753 Місяць тому

    I was a soldier then.....
    During operation,each of us carry a huge backpack,half of it were food that will last 3-5 days..then we have bandoliers that carry lots of ammo..
    This movie shows they barely carry anything but they shoot unlimited ammos..plus they are incredibly strong without eating for how many days😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @morolo6665
    @morolo6665 4 місяці тому +8

    Gracias amigo !!!
    La película esta hablada en ingles, peo se le puede poner subtítulos en muchos idiomas, español incluido, desde las opciones que te da YT .

    • @FoundingYouTuber-2005
      @FoundingYouTuber-2005 3 місяці тому

      Subtitles in most any language are available in this video. Here's how you do it:
      Here's how to activate subtitles in any language for this video. Note: UA-cam subtitles are legend for producing inaccurate bizarre funny words at times. IOW, don't expect 100% accuracy on the translations.
      - Press the "CC" at the bottom menu bar (this turns on the subtitles. Note: UA-cam/Google will auto-detect the language.
      - Then on the menu setting bar press the "gear icon" (the "gear icon" is to the right of the "CC" icon.
      - From the pop-up menu that appears press "Subtitles/CC"
      - From the next sub pop-up menu press "Auto-translate"
      - A pop-up will appear that has available languages. From the list scroll and select your language of choice.
      That's it, subtitles in your language will now automatically appear at the bottom of the screen.

    • @luxbeci2
      @luxbeci2 3 місяці тому

      Hungarian speak

  • @ryanashby2459
    @ryanashby2459 3 місяці тому +1

    Dude is pretty calm for having his knee all shot up...

  • @Aaron-n1t
    @Aaron-n1t 3 місяці тому +3

    This movie is OK not boring not great but ok

  • @mikecappadocia5959
    @mikecappadocia5959 4 місяці тому +14

    Why'd you censor that dead body hanging on the door? You're not the editor

    • @dieterklaushof1097
      @dieterklaushof1097 2 місяці тому

      They are woks a kind of orks, you should not seen people die in the war.

    • @JULIENSELLIER
      @JULIENSELLIER 2 місяці тому

      Can you think a second, the movie was not ment for UA-cam, it wasn't even created when that movie came out 24 Years later .... UA-cam has it's own censorship and for you to watch this old movie free and for the channel owner to make his money they need to censure those kind of things ...

    • @mikerodent3164
      @mikerodent3164 2 місяці тому

      @@JULIENSELLIER "Censor" ... not the same verb as "censure". Also "its" is the possessive adjective. Get real.

    • @JULIENSELLIER
      @JULIENSELLIER 2 місяці тому

      @@mikerodent3164 Get real what ? You understood what I ment yet you rant about a French auto correct censure/censor oh wow you are so great ..At least I did not need to edit my comment in my native language ... That won't change the fact that you did not understood why the body was blurred .... It is fine no body is perfect Mr Grammar.

    • @nomadmarauder-dw9re
      @nomadmarauder-dw9re 2 місяці тому

      Guess nobody noticed that all of the ghastly wounds were light gray with black blood.

  • @nathanstanswood4931
    @nathanstanswood4931 Місяць тому

    What year was this supposed to be set?.

  • @morrismonet3554
    @morrismonet3554 4 місяці тому +5

    War is hell.

    • @101mazz
      @101mazz 3 місяці тому +1

      "It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it."

  • @andrescrux
    @andrescrux 4 місяці тому +3

    19:59 Holy😳 This was the best tag team deathmatch ever🤣🤣👌 👨‍💻You never fail w the throwback uploads🫡

    • @leekelley4701
      @leekelley4701 3 місяці тому +1

      That was Kung fu. Style for killing not for sport. Friggin spine attacks are ruthless, that was dope af

    • @andrescrux
      @andrescrux 3 місяці тому

      @@leekelley4701 That was some awesome action 🎬 😂👌 Movie was great too

  • @marieleborgne9229
    @marieleborgne9229 4 місяці тому +1

    Très intéressant le film sauve qui peut

  • @The_Purringlady
    @The_Purringlady 4 місяці тому +15

    this Kitten 🐈‍⬛ Misses her Friends ❤ ~ Say, “Hi” when you can. 🤗

    • @conveyor2
      @conveyor2 4 місяці тому +2

      miss you too!

    • @The_Purringlady
      @The_Purringlady 4 місяці тому +1

      @@conveyor2 My Man of Mystery! 🤭

    • @The_Purringlady
      @The_Purringlady 4 місяці тому

      @@conveyor2 Ack! I’m having withdrawals from riffing & chatting. In case you haven’t noticed, I’m an extrovert. 😂🤭🐈‍⬛

    • @qdood
      @qdood 4 місяці тому +1

      👋 wifey

    • @The_Purringlady
      @The_Purringlady 4 місяці тому +1

      @@qdood I miss you hubby! 😻🐈‍⬛ Are you still in Asia? 💗

  • @jamisdelsol5761
    @jamisdelsol5761 4 місяці тому +3

    Haaaaa ! vous êtes fort le titre en français et les dialogues en anglais .......

  • @John-ob7dh
    @John-ob7dh 2 місяці тому

    Good martial arts

  • @RylandCarpenter
    @RylandCarpenter 4 місяці тому +2

    Didn’t ccc already upload this movie

  • @frankpartidas2842
    @frankpartidas2842 2 місяці тому

    in the end the Japanese and the Germans were right about everything!!!

  • @cliffedward
    @cliffedward 2 місяці тому

    Mel Gibson wasn't happy with this movie.
    Strange hearing his Aussie accent.

  • @minikodtlivov3184
    @minikodtlivov3184 2 місяці тому

    The movie is very unrealistic in many details, the best is when the girl cames to peek over the barricade while machine gun works just twenty meters away in front....it must have been looked much more serious when I watched it 40 years ago......

  • @guillermomontoya196
    @guillermomontoya196 2 місяці тому

    Me gustan mucho las peliculas belicas de axion,,,!, si son de los 80s, mejor,,,,🇲🇽🥊🦇🐊🚁🛩️💀🙏🐉🐠🧟

  • @labombarde1
    @labombarde1 3 місяці тому +1

    I ran around the woods for hours with a stick making that ridiculous noise with my mouth... but I got all of them...

  • @Burchrg24
    @Burchrg24 4 місяці тому +10

    Dang... The Australian army looks bad in this film... Kills a buddy and a civilian... Oof...

    • @เสาวลักษณ์เทพคง-ฒ6น
      @เสาวลักษณ์เทพคง-ฒ6น 4 місяці тому

      มันปกติของพวกนี้ออสเตรเรียชอบฆ่าเพื่อน

    • @joe-nz4xz
      @joe-nz4xz 4 місяці тому

      @@เสาวลักษณ์เทพคง-ฒ6น No it isnt

    • @leekelley4701
      @leekelley4701 3 місяці тому +3

      Fog of war, things go wrong. Gotta give respect that they didn't leave that out to save face. The Z president said it was unflinching account. Friendly fire still happens today, an civilians casualties are just as bad or worse. 90% of drone kills were civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan, but that don't make it to the movies does it.

    • @gregorschwank
      @gregorschwank 3 місяці тому

      Aussie

    • @timkincade9763
      @timkincade9763 2 місяці тому

      Never served did you , so how do you know what happens in real life civilian, this is just a movie. ANZAC did a great job in any conflict, honor to serve next to them in Afghanistan

  • @atdzsny
    @atdzsny 4 місяці тому +2

    Gee: this even has a bootleg homemade Hungarian audio track.

  • @KO2LEMS
    @KO2LEMS 3 місяці тому

    Small boy is more intelligent than his sister

  • @angeloschneider4272
    @angeloschneider4272 28 днів тому

    Not bad, but not good either. To many mistakes in the script. But passing the time.

  • @christopherquarry6234
    @christopherquarry6234 3 місяці тому +1

    Mel Gibson is a legend and a patriot, god bless him 21:23

    • @John-ob7dh
      @John-ob7dh 2 місяці тому

      He is good at making Anti Brit films.

  • @mattluszczak8095
    @mattluszczak8095 3 місяці тому

    ...the thunder from down under the aussie chuck norris zedddd force

  • @taheralizadeh6982
    @taheralizadeh6982 2 місяці тому

    این فیلم راسی سال پیش نگاه کردم دوبله فارسی ولی الان پیدا نمی کنم

  • @luxbeci2
    @luxbeci2 3 місяці тому +1

    This movie hungarian narrator speak

  • @spotifyde5979
    @spotifyde5979 2 місяці тому

    times change. now the Japanese are our friends and the Chinese not so much.

  • @tuliooliveros5360
    @tuliooliveros5360 4 місяці тому

    La pueden poner en español

  • @jonhart7630
    @jonhart7630 3 місяці тому +1

    Didn't know that the Imperial Japanese Army had Browning machine guns.

    • @juanargemi5901
      @juanargemi5901 3 місяці тому +2

      capturing to soldiers US perhaps?

    • @SouthernRex-1994
      @SouthernRex-1994 3 місяці тому +1

      There is this amazing tactic of war called... appropriating enemy equipment... it's almost like soldiers would use anything theu could get their hands on for tactical advantage.

    • @jonhart7630
      @jonhart7630 3 місяці тому

      @@SouthernRex-1994 These Japanese were a long way from any Americans. Any captured weapons would be British/Commonwealth Bren guns or Vickers machine guns after the fall of Singapore and Malaysia.

    • @SouthernRex-1994
      @SouthernRex-1994 3 місяці тому

      @@jonhart7630 Both these armies used US leased weapons

    • @jonhart7630
      @jonhart7630 3 місяці тому

      @@SouthernRex-1994 The British/Commonwealth forces did have Browning guns, but they were usually mounted on tanks and half-tracks provided by the Americans. They weren't usually allocated to heavy machine gun squads in the infantry. The British/Commonwealth did have a high opinion of the Browning though.

  • @angloaust1575
    @angloaust1575 3 місяці тому +1

    Modern sub not ww2 type!

  • @biagiozacaro8520
    @biagiozacaro8520 4 місяці тому +3

    Non capisco l'inglese

  • @ukphone4183
    @ukphone4183 4 місяці тому +2

    ❤❤purring hello dear miss the chat

    • @The_Purringlady
      @The_Purringlady 4 місяці тому

      @@ukphone4183 Hiya Uk 🇬🇧 I’m missing my Friends too! Sending you a Hug 🤗

  • @ericlovejuju8117
    @ericlovejuju8117 4 місяці тому +2

    M3A1 submachine gun

    • @leekelley4701
      @leekelley4701 3 місяці тому +1

      Aussie gun? Looks like a suppressed grease gun w a longer barrel kinda

    • @luxbeci2
      @luxbeci2 3 місяці тому

      This British american gun MP 40 copy

  • @dwg9553
    @dwg9553 2 місяці тому

    Z is not in good standing now.

  • @Keremtunc-r6f
    @Keremtunc-r6f 4 місяці тому

    Saol gurban hemşo emmoğlu

  • @nestoritalodelacerda9865
    @nestoritalodelacerda9865 19 днів тому

    Porque siempre dicen americano Pará referirse a los EEUU está america central América del Sur y América del Norte debiera decir norte americano

  • @johnnygepp7238
    @johnnygepp7238 3 місяці тому

    メル・ギブソンが若い!

  • @margarethsilveira7634
    @margarethsilveira7634 4 місяці тому

    Pena que não é dublado.

  • @felibertofernandez2954
    @felibertofernandez2954 2 місяці тому

    Me gusta

  • @ValdecirbandeirasBandeiras
    @ValdecirbandeirasBandeiras 3 місяці тому +1

    Joias

  • @luxbeci2
    @luxbeci2 3 місяці тому +2

    Very boring movie hungarian translator narrátor speak sound

  • @regisdaniel1071
    @regisdaniel1071 2 місяці тому

    le vrais tire c est attack force z

  • @alexdesslin
    @alexdesslin 2 місяці тому

    nanar de 1ere classe

  • @Spud3418
    @Spud3418 Місяць тому

    Don’t waste your time

  • @zanti209
    @zanti209 4 місяці тому +3

    le chat est mort 😿

    • @The_Purringlady
      @The_Purringlady 4 місяці тому

      Who’s Cat? Mona? Patches? 😢

    • @Hartlor_Tayley
      @Hartlor_Tayley 4 місяці тому

      @@zanti209 what happened ?

    • @zanti209
      @zanti209 4 місяці тому

      @@The_Purringlady chat as in ccc chat

    • @zanti209
      @zanti209 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Hartlor_Tayley maybe ccc is going chatless, dunno really 🤔

    • @zanti209
      @zanti209 4 місяці тому +1

      @@The_Purringlady i think ccc may be phasing out chat (it's a big channel; may have outgrown it)

  • @kevinyowait2463
    @kevinyowait2463 2 місяці тому

    The vegetation and the geographical setting in the movie are not tropical.
    I don't think this movie was filmed on a Pacific island?
    🇵🇬👍😊

  • @istvanraffai8536
    @istvanraffai8536 3 місяці тому

    Hàt ebbe a filbe éppen csak hogy nem log bele a mikrophone felülröl habàr még mindig nézhetöbb mint sok agyatlan mai alkotàs.Elgondolkodtam azon hogy,milyen lenne ez a film ha csinàlnànak belöle egy remaket.😂😂🤣🤣Pink Phanter Commando.

  • @edmundovera7660
    @edmundovera7660 Місяць тому

    Audio mudo y visión deficiente.
    Chao. 👎

  • @Muffell-os1om
    @Muffell-os1om 3 місяці тому

    Mekong ??? In the Pacific area ! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @alexandermpln003
    @alexandermpln003 2 місяці тому

    Matar a su compañero fue innecesario.

  • @ValdecirbandeirasBandeiras
    @ValdecirbandeirasBandeiras 3 місяці тому

    Linda

  • @AndrzejDożynko-b6d
    @AndrzejDożynko-b6d 2 місяці тому

    Bardzo słabe tłumaczenie , nie oglądam.

  • @Mornblade
    @Mornblade 3 місяці тому +28

    This movie is incredibly boring.

    • @mattluszczak8095
      @mattluszczak8095 3 місяці тому +10

      ...fighting the japanese wasnt borring nor pleasent

    • @LenTuesday
      @LenTuesday 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@mattluszczak8095he's talking about the movie not the war 🙄

    • @STEPHENAUNGO
      @STEPHENAUNGO 3 місяці тому +3

      Not really

    • @RealJohn-g7f
      @RealJohn-g7f 3 місяці тому +2

      Please act your own and upload

    • @SciRado
      @SciRado 2 місяці тому

      Fun facts movies based on actual events.
      The non fiction usually are boring.

  • @london19657
    @london19657 4 місяці тому +1

    weird. nothing

    • @The_Purringlady
      @The_Purringlady 4 місяці тому

      @@london19657 Tiger Silk 😂😁🐈‍⬛

  • @romanoschwabel3716
    @romanoschwabel3716 2 місяці тому

    wieso ist der titel in deutsch, der film aber in english?
    daumen runter

  • @kennethbuck5745
    @kennethbuck5745 2 місяці тому

    Not a good movie

  • @vedagalvan7942
    @vedagalvan7942 3 місяці тому

    No me gustan chinas japonesas y estarle leyendo tampoco me gusta mirar y gue ablen español soy mexicana

  • @farnamghafari2050
    @farnamghafari2050 3 місяці тому +3

    Stupidest movie of all time kill your own commando get an entire community killed lose the rest of your team and fail to rescue anyone
    MISSIONFAILED and waste of an hour and a half

    • @leekelley4701
      @leekelley4701 3 місяці тому +2

      It's not just a movie. So show respect. Writing a happy ending is easy compared to the hell of war.

    • @sunnyjim1355
      @sunnyjim1355 Місяць тому

      The mission wasn't failed, it was a success. The brief was to rescue the two VIPs, or make sure they were dead. That was achieved. It only failed Gibson's unrealistic expectations.
      I know it's hard to pay attention to plot details, but at least try? 🙄

  • @larrylaatsch9965
    @larrylaatsch9965 3 місяці тому +1

    You know when a "WW11" movie starts out with a 1980 nuclear submarine on the surface and diving after disembarking a team of commandos, it kind of spoils the whole thing. And the weapons were vintage, all right. With 1980 suppressors. Allegedly in 1940something. Awfully over-acted. Sadly, I shut it off after 5:48. Gotta do waaaay better than that boys. Got no upvotes at all from me.👎

    • @Tsamados
      @Tsamados 3 місяці тому +2

      That suppresed grease gun was designed in 1942.

    • @Tsamados
      @Tsamados 3 місяці тому +2

      That also looks like a British WW2 A Class submarine, someone needs to do their research a bit better before ripping into things.