Why Doesn't Genshin Give You More Stuff?
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
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In this captivating video, we delve deep into the captivating world of Genshin Impact to uncover the mysteries behind its economy and the allocation of in-game rewards. As players, we often find ourselves questioning why the game doesn't shower us with more loot, primogems, or valuable resources. Join us on a journey as we explore the intricate balance between player satisfaction and game economics within the immersive realm of Genshin Impact.
Discover the psychology behind reward systems and the delicate equilibrium game developers must maintain to keep players engaged without compromising the integrity of the gaming experience. From analyzing the impact of gacha mechanics to understanding the importance of resource scarcity, this video offers valuable insights into the thought processes driving game design decisions in Genshin Impact.
Unravel the complexities of player progression and the strategic deployment of rewards to enhance gameplay longevity and foster a thriving gaming community. Through expert analysis and player perspectives, we examine the intricate factors influencing the distribution of rewards within Genshin Impact, shedding light on the rationale behind the game's reward structure.
Whether you're a seasoned adventurer in the world of Teyvat or a newcomer eager to understand the inner workings of one of the most beloved open-world RPGs of our time, this video provides a thought-provoking exploration into the question: Why Doesn't Genshin Give You More Stuff? Prepare to embark on a journey of discovery and enlightenment as we uncover the secrets behind one of gaming's most intriguing phenomena. - Ігри
They call Genshin 007
0 Wishes
0 Primos
7 Uncompleted story quests
my friend, i have more than 7 story quests
Correction:- hangouts 😅
No we call it 00999
I 100% everything in genshin. You just started genshin. You think u just gon get into genshin with all these wishes. It's an open world game, go around and complete things in genshin. Been playing since day 1. You missed out on alot of events and etc. But l get what people are talking about. We deserve so much more.
@@youngrydah4374 real tho
Welcome to genshin, the game where no one has luck
That's true
unless you are a streamer
@dawarsiddiqua7759 streamers have clout and make game look good
the only luck we have is streamer luck, and only some streamers get it it is a tragedy we all must live whith
For real bro
We don't have alot of stuff but AT LEAST WE CAN JUMP 😂😂😂😂
SO TRUEE
YESSS
The ONLY thing you can do in Genshin lmao
Real, and by me more enjoyable lore
Thats right We dont even need to jump to win 🥱
In all seriousness the reason is because genshin isn’t releasing new characters as quickly so there’s not as much rush to pull like there is in star rail. Star rail tends to run new characters really often because it’s a newer game while genshin reruns old characters more often than new ones so it’s able to get away with being stingy with rewards. Also there’s less power creep so there’s less of a need to get new characters unless you really like them. The TLDR is that it’s a game that you requires your patience and time. If you’re willing to sink a lot of time into it you’ll get the stuff you want eventually.
That makes it hard for a new player like me
@@IndaboxCliped its hard for everyone at the start, not a problem if you actually care
@@IndaboxCliped trust me, I’ve only been playing for a year and I have plenty of the stuff I set out to get. It’s a really fun game and if you put the time into it, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it too :)
switching from genshin to star rail is like realizing your ex was toxic
EDIT: started playing wuthering waves today and completed the prologue. i got OVER 500 of the funny wishing dust, 40 normal wishes and 20 event wishes. i haven't even unlocked the wishing function. holy shit.
EDIT 2: since there are people who are considering playing WuWa, here are some pros and cons from my experience:
pros:
+ immersive story (apparently a lot of people say it's bad but i personally enjoyed it so far)
+ pretty graphics even on the lowest settings
+ AMAZING animations during dialogues
+ *scar*. and his va.
+ jiyan
+ SO MANY free wishes
+ free 5-star of your choice, and then a special banner with another 5-star of your choice, guaranteed in 80 pulls
+ great fight and exploration mechanics (once you get used to them)
+ big rewards for fixing bugs and patches
+ rewarding short quests, keeping it sweet and simple
+ scar again i just love the guy
+ (just my personal prediction:) WuWa will have a hopefully healthly rivarly with genshin, which will result in both games' devs actually trying their best to improve their games to keep the players interested
cons:
- no optimization (NOT ACTUAL, ALREADY FIXED WITH THE NEW UPDATE)
- some VAs were probably rushed, so their delivery is awful and they prolly couldn't retake them (not scars VA though he was giving the performance of his lifetime lmao)
- difficult to get used to the mechanics at first
- buggy (as expected of a freshly released game)
- the chixia curse. i have 7 copies of her. help.
- not enough scar in the game please i'm desperate
LMFAO
Fr fr i am a genshin player, now i play HONKAI like literally i feel like deleting genshin rn but nah😅 can't leave my first hoyoverse game🤓
@@shravya.m9583 same!!
Just play both. Keep the toxic girlfriend and the better one.
@@adambryant4149 i collect hoyo games like pokemon
Genshin taught me to work with what i had, not wish for what i want
Quite contradictory for a gacha lol
@@whitesaintatarmaon5766Yes it‘s so much better if it’s just like hsr, let me feel the need to put my money into the game bcuz I have to pull every patch. People rly complaining that they want to feel forced to pull smh
@@rrxphvel871 yeah Genshin has been too greedy and too unrewarding since the start, they added some QoL from Star Rail but seems like it's fan base is made up by masochistic gamers who like having a hard time doing stuff
@rrxphvel871 That's called a gambling addiction and you should seek help.
genshin is more popular so there are less rewards so players spend more money, its not fkin rocket science.. once genshin profits start to decrease hoyo will give more rewards so players come back
Welcome to genshin where grinding for primos is the thing you always need to do
Every good thing we have is either we paid for it or we worked hard for it
The reason Genshin doesn't give as much rewards is the person in charge
The person in charge of Genshin is not the same person in charge of the two Honkai games. The guy in charge of Genshin, the chairman of Mihoyo, is known for being stingy and when he was in charge of HI3, the rewards there were also stingy until a different guy took over
Praying that he's in charge of ZZZ
@@xeroc4691I hope he doesn't
You think he will retire anytime soon?
What is ZZZ?
@@ThatDeltaboi new game by Hoyo. Still in Beta I think
It's been 3 years and we still wonder why
I played for 7 days and don't know lol
@@ThatDeltaboi1st anniversary; everyone hated the rewards that they gave us compensation. 2nd anniversary they gave us a paid wings because everyone hated the rewards. 3rd anniversary EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE (Even the Chinese community the one they appeal to the most) Hated the anniversary rewards what did hoyo do? They silenced the Chinese players
@@Shikiruo that's just sad lol
@@Shikiruo1st anniversary compensation was supposed to be a 20$ pack tool lmao
So truee
Mind that for most of quests and event activities you're getting Primogems, which you can exchange for wishes. You can easily wish about 20 times per week. As for the guaranteed rewards, you'll always get 4* character AT LEAST once per 10 wishes. You'll also get rare 5* character in max 90 wishes.
My theory is that its because unlike starrail, genshin is open world and is older. Meaning more quests and more chests and other game mode options. Vs, honkai is at version 2 and only has a few quests each time. So events and things translates to primogems from exploration
Making genshin more hard for new players
@@IndaboxCliped new players dont have to play then, if its so hard dont complain and just quit. genshin started 3 years ago so youve already missed out enough for it to be pointless
@@ailovnolivesthis take is so braindead
@@Sxepticalz you just don’t have enough brain to understand it
The middle child syndrome 😢
It's called the game is bad rn
Hey im sure they will straighten up their act soon right?
They will fix it eventually
@@ThatDeltaboino they won't,people have tried sorts of things in the past but the stingy rewards stay stingy. From threatening to bomb to boycotting Mihoyo just simply doesn't care
@@ThatDeltaboigenshin is making more money than HSR even with the terrible rewards system . They aren’t Changing anything since they are getting the most money out of it
Its an experiment by Hoyoverse to figure out the least amount of free stuff they can give without players leaving.
nah its probably cause you already get alot from chests in open world and statue of 7. since the open world in hsr is lacking in resources maybe to even it out idk
@@wahzawahzo2949 Nah it's not that much. I was clearing 100% every map, 600 average primo per area in fontaine and it's not that much honestly (Sumeru desert was great tho, 800-1000 per area). Also now hsr has so much chest in penacony + another new end game content in 2.3 + another simulated universe world + golden hours clockie statue + free 4 star light cone from origami bird.
The main reason why HSR give you so much free reward is because you'll need that much character and the overworld monster is kinda hard if you don't have some specific character. Genshin? I only play Neuvillette Furina Baizhu Kazuha for the first team and Alhaitham Nahida Yelan Kuki for second team and maybe I don't need to spend my primo anymore for meta character.
@@wahzawahzo2949 I play both game, Genshin is for anyone that don't care about meta. But HSR has their meta for every endgame content and that's why you'll need to pull every character you need.
@fashlimakarim6757 bro hsr is a way more casual game. you get way more rewards so you dont care about who you pull you always have enough and in genshin ur limited to a few characters so you gotta really pull only the good characters
Also in Gensgin we have open (when i finished the Sumeru dsert region I had around 300 pulls) world, with tons of quests puzzles + events etc . We can get a lots of wishes from that. In hsr there are significantly less resources. The only way you can get wishs are the story/character stories etc+ events.
In HSR we're more reliant on Hoyo to get wishes than in Genshin.
Genshin - Any character can play any role
HSR - Character has a specific role to play
that's just not true. You can't play support arlecchino/hu tao/Ayato/ etc etc. You can definitely play DPS whatever in Genshin, but so can you in HSR. Idk where this comes from
@@Hunter-u7q U can do that, play ayato or arle as a support character, just put Nobless Oblige Artefact (everytime they do Elemental burst, they be a support character).
Or u can use Mona with Prototype Amber weapon, and turn her as a healer.
Or u can build your Barbara as a DPS by using Crit Weapon and Offensive Artefact like Hearth of Depth.
Genshin not has restrictions like HSR, especially for the weapon. In HSR you can't use Himeko with a Loucha Light Cone. But, it's just a meme build and only for fun.
@@starzeero Well, that's because the paths are what define the lightcones they can use. You can run a support Black Swan/Kafka/Any Nihility with Luka's lightcone and, in the future, Jiaoqiu's lightocone and they turn into supports. It's true that there are less options, but that's mainly because there isn't any support relic compatible with offensive supports. At some point they can release an artifact set that debuffs stuff. Prototype amber being able to heal is the same as the support kafka scenario, so that's already covered, technically
@starzeero I hope Barbara DPS will help you clear Abyss and output large number
@@IndaboxClipedI actually did that lol
I feel like you would need to farm more,doing quests and stuff gets you primos so you can get a 5* you want( norm around 60 pulls can get you a 5* )
Getting one 4 star character with 3 wishes is actually really lucky 💀
prob from the blue wishes
I swear, if I wish 90 times I’ll get a character I already have 5 starred then lose a 5050 to qiqi
I wished 5 times and the first two were 4 stars but I wanted wanderer so I wished 3 times more and got some dumb books 📚
Maybe it's just the standard banner
Its literally from the standard blue wishes stfu🤡💀
wuthering waves be like : we're sorry for making u unable to play the game for 2 hours so we will give you a free 5 star of your choice and 10 yellow wishes
That's just kuro being kuro. Wait for half anniv or 1 year anniversary, since they give free 5* selector as well on their other game during the anniversaries unlike this other company we know, who happens to make more money than kuro :)
Due to playing since the start I have my dream team without having to use any yellow wishes. I’m going to hold my thirst and save past yinlin for upcoming characters cause the potential is so dope. Also MC is very cool and viable which is a huge plus in my opinion
2 hours is a slight understatement but yeah pretty much 🥹
Also withering waves: walk 1 inch and claim your free 5 star echo of choice
it gave me 2 free five stars because i got 50 yellow wishes
It comes down to why each game does this,
Star Rail by proxy if not being an exploration game needs to splurge players with more rewards off event tabs while Genshin generally gives you enough gems for 1 Pitty per new Area off random chests in the overworld. You can sum this up to, Genshin makes you work for that pitty while Star rail tells you “go get em kido”
Argumenr dont hold water when wuthering waves appeared though. I have seen more puzzle rewards in that game in one month than i ever dis in genshin.
@@ZelosSamaI’ve seen more bugs in that shithole in 3 hours than 3 years of the objectively better game
@@clusterbombs9726 buy a better pc , indont have bugs at all .
In other words , its not my problem
@@ZelosSamaWuwa litterally takes a lot of inspiration from Genshin though. Not hating on the game, but it's only normal for a new game such as wuwa to have a lot of content and ameliorations if they want to compete against genshin.
The thing is THATS what makes it fun!! To explore and get more stuff to trade for more wishes!
[Meanwhile on Wuthering Waves]
Wuthering Waves: Oh sorry about the mistranslation, here's 10 Radiant Tides
So far we got:
10 standard wishes for lag issues
10 radiant wishes to thank us
5 weapon wishes for translation error:
A 5 star standard character selector
A free 5 star standard character token thing
600,000 shell credits for some echo issue
1,000,000 shell credits for another bug
20 solvent (fragile resin)
Like 500 asterite
Yinlin banner early,
A 5 star weapon selector
And for the next patch they promised us better rates and a double drop event and I think another 10 pulls?
I’m kinda hoping they have more issues so I get more compensation rewards, I don’t think I’ll need to spend any money on this game lol
@@rainy9693don't know for sure, if they will, I saw a post about their company lights open for days and yeah they are so busy...
It's around may 28th before yinlin banner
to be fair, the french subtitles in WUWA are so bad that you literally CAN'T understand what's going on. It makes really no sense at all (french is my native language). It is really, *reaaaally* bad.
Wuthering Waves devs are so generous they make me WANT to spend money on the game...
Now you know where the phrase "Genshin could never" comes from
but at least genshin has better music
@@necronticgaming6186story, sound, arts, etc are subjective things. Its like saying one genre of music is better as a fact like.. no thats not how that works
@@justinroy3769but it does
@@BliskDeatheryou do know that's still subjective right?
@@necronticgaming6186better music than HSR? A re you joking
As a Genshin Hoyosimp, I'm literally shaking and crying right now.
Honestly going from Genshin to star rail was a huge breath of fresh air for me!! Super interesting to hear you say it the opposite way
Genshin is basically Hoyoverse’s middle child since it was supposed to be a Honkai game but ended up becoming something completely different
@@admiralvaldez the unknown God in the beginning is Kiara from honkai impact and a big plot point of honkai is that when the humans become too advanced the gods will come down and destroy humanity and send them back to a level they deem appropriate and this event is known as the honkai impact. Lo and behold part of the lore of genshin is there was a technologically advanced nation in the past that was wiped out by the gods for being too advanced. Also lots of lore implications connect them
@@admiralvaldez in the earliest technical tests of Genshin, the protagonist wasn't Aether and Lumine, but an expy of Kevin/Kiana Kaslana. It was a single girl who had white hair and blue eyes and had the surname Kaslana. Go figure.
Later that was changed to Aether and Lumine in the beta test.
@@admiralvaldezif u don’t know, the game name “genshin impact” WAS supposed to be “Honkai impact 4th” but they changed it
@@admiralvaldezmc before beein aether and lumine had the second name ad "kaslana"
Let me currect one part. That 10 standard banner pulls are for only new players. So in the end it was that 3 limited pulls and 10 limited from daily log in.
Oh cool? I wonder if I will get more after a while like the returning item thing
@@ThatDeltaboi
No the 10 standard is just for new players so you won't have more, but at each patch you get around 300-600 primogem which give you around 2 to 4 wish
Oh cool
not really cool … -_-
@@ThatDeltaboi that’s not cool bro ._. 🥲
Oohh..u are fighting hydro boss
Understandable,sry for your sufferings
And if you complete all the archon quests you are guaranteed to get i think 25 interwinted fates
me, as a ar60 genshin player, had my heart sink at Honkai Star Rail's first anniversary rewards.
It's the same 20 extra pulls we got in genshin every anniversary
@@pontoancorawe consider first anniversary as 10 pulls cause we faught in order to get 20 pulls + some ugly glider
@@blep8336 and you are wrong. Is still 20 pulls
@@blep8336 and tbh the glider is one of the best, imo
@@pontoancora Not YOU SAYING that HIDEOUS designed glider is good.
As a genshin player
We have the same question of why we get treated so poorly
Blame Cai (producer)
Because they know they can treat us like shit and no one will quit 😂 worst case scenario for them, people switch to another hoyo game lol
You are still playing, that's why
"Treated so poorly" lol come on dude. Genshin is a free 2 play game. They make their money thru in game purchases. The fact that you're still playing the game is because you enjoy the game, like myself. I could care less about not getting more free stuff. And before someone comes and says why HSR gives more free stuff, it's because the player base between the two games is huge. Genshin has way more active players than Honkai and by them giving more it entices people to download and play the game.
@@pnut84 I disagree. Genshin is like League of Legends. People can get addicted to playing while also feeling extremely toxic about the game. Anyone who enjoys playing Genshin as a F2P is equivalent to people who play ARAM only. Just because you continue to play something and feel negative about the game doesn't mean you're having fun at the end of it all. It could just mean you have an unhealthy problem.
Nah I be like wasting those just to get myself😭
The reason is that it still operates in launch mode as if there is still a nessessity to artificially stretch play time. We've been sitting on a 160 resin cap for over three years. That's finally been bumped up to 200 which means we can do about one more activity per day! Yay...🎉🙃
First genshin is open world game witch mean characters benefit more than HSR no offence for the characters in HSR and some of them make exploration easier and you need to farm a lot of things to just make one character max and all the wait for the item to back back again and the artifact Is a suffering and that's why ig
I can't believe this comment got 6k like Ty guys!!
Pin me pls
Ok sure
@@ThatDeltaboiin genshin, almost any character can be good, you just gotta build them right so a lack of characters isn’t that bad, like a team of 4 stars can compete with a team of 5 stars, some 4 stars are even more desirable than most 5 stars, like Bennett
Ok, now climb that hill for 5 primogems
That doesn't mean anything we still need better rewards
The devs hate us
Ik sure they don't if they did they wouldn't update their game
Correction they hate the people not the money
No no they 100% hate us, you're right.
I mean I would also hate it if I saw leakers doing leakers things about characters and story shit.
@@lilartist9892 leaks about banners in my opinion are fine they are good so people can save but the rest is terrible however genshin doesn't need to be so stingy like the anniversary for honkai got 20+ pulls but genshin got 13 for the 3rd anniversary...... why so greedy? Do they want us to hate them?
It's just your feeling lmao😂.
I'm still playing Genshin, and I know how much the developer team put love in Genshin development.
I have few experience in Genshin, i have like adventure level 12, and i kind of enjoy having to work for the rewards!!
At low levels like mine it’s pretty easy to get some gems, although i’m kinda in a rush, since Furina’s rerun banner will come this week, and i want to get her
It's my comfort game the graphics and views calms me down
Genshin taught me to *PULL MY WISHES WISELY* and never regret it....abiet the bullshittiness of the weapon banner
@Bruno-xu6iocool
None asked tho
@Bruno-xu6io congrats but getting cons on kazuha is actually very useless, you could have saved those up for a new character or a very broken constellation of another character
C2 kazuha, tho@@dhanu_7037
@@dhanu_7037 ....Kazuha isn't really useless what are you saying?
@@titanosaurdy9493 read my comment again
“Welcome to hell, bish” -i took that from Khoi Dao btw
why 1.4 k ppl like my comment
LMAO
-Albedo
Lmao
Ah yes, Albedo.
@@2DxxRS ✨ albedo ✨
I play Genshin Impact Cloud, and it really makes me happy! Finally I can play Genshin Impact even though my cellphone doesn't support it
It’s because in honkai star rail you need good team creation so it’s more expensive to get great teams but in Genshin it depends on skill since you can do good numbers with weird team comps
We don't talk about the three pink wishes
Why not?
@@ThatDeltaboiTrust me you don't want to know there was a whole war going on that genshin doesn't give enough rewards
@daw8285 really I feel like I got the same amount of wishes for the grey tickets I just kinda wanted more pink ones for a movement character
@@ThatDeltaboi Where did you get the blue wishes from course they weren't a part of the even't
@daw8285 I got then in the mail section and it said something about login rewards
Hoyo : May I have your bank account sir?
Naaauuurrrr I'm 0.00 rnnnn
Banned
Dang it
Genshin has a death grip on my financial well being
True
My wallet =1600$
Me = bro I have to pay for my food and electricity bill and I am a free to play player
Hell nooo 🖕
To get a lot of characters you either whale or save the primogems you get til u get enough for a 5 star or you get lucky
I believe a major reason is Genshin game out years before Honkai Starrail. hoyoverse got lots of feed back about Genshin which they put into honkai starrail. They kept Genshin the same however.
A friendly Reminder that alot of turn based games always gives alot of free pulls Star rail is a turn based game so for me its common
I was wondering if the luck was different or smthin
Me who play FGO: We don't do that here
@@Zer-ec4ly we fgo players are in a perpetual hell
@@Zer-ec4lyatleast on anniversary, fgo give free SSR bro 😂
Haha fgo here laugh from behind but at least we dont need to farm eq
Haha its called "having a favorite child"
Lol
I honestly don't think that's true~
I think a company's "favorite child" is the one that provides the most revenue :P
In the end, it's all about that for a company~
(The meme is funny toh~ ^-^)
the dev teams are different lmao, while I don't remember the names but the director of genshin used to direct honkai impact 3rd too, from where he was removed I suppose because the communtiy wasnt happy with the little rewards or perhaps another reason, I'm not so sure since it's been a while that I've read about it. whereas hsr's dev team's director has a history of being more generous, he was given the role to direct over hi3 after the previous director was removed and rewards looks better now than when the other dude was in lead. hoyoverse is a company with different teams inside over each game, and that team is composed of even more teams, so generalising them like that is quite silly to me.
@@BlackStartx that is not true, genshin is the mine of gold of hoyo, but at the end of the day they do the bare minimum just to keep it alive, while in their other games (hsr and hi3) they do lots of cool new mechanics and animations for characters and different events
@BlackStartx Well you'll be dissapointed to know that the CEO of Mihoyo Da Wei himself said that Honkai series will be his favorite. Even though Genshin generates and will generate way more money. So yeah, sorry bud.
I recently got a five star on one pull today and here are a couple tips: Sit on venti’s hands on the statue of seven in monstat, then change the time to 23:48(: hope this helps and you can get a rare character
You should start wuthering waves, their dev teams actually listens to the community and gives out freebies for bugfixes
As of recording this it was 3 wishes but after i finished my challenge it got changed to 10 pink wishes
Lantern rite usually gives the most primos in all genshin festivals ;-;
Still not 20
And free 5star chara
It always has been 10 pink wishes, plus 3 more by ingame mail for the three year anniversary. And yes anyone got mad at the three extra wishes for three years.
For any HoYo game, the earlier you start, the better it gets. The later, the more money it take to enjoy & keep up. If Time is the only thing you can’t afford to waste, then you should just play for its story at the lowest world rank possible. As a F2P player playing it at the beginning till now, my experience is actually great. But when I create a new account during XianYun’s banner period, I will have to say, it’s a hell lot of work to get the PrimoGems needed to pull the char you need.
“my friends had cool characters” -the friend uses qiqi-
nooo te curse of qiqi
@@Antoni-l4z 😭
@@Antoni-l4zwait what’s wrong w qiqi :’)
I'm ar 40 and Qiqi is my only 5 star. I've heard a lot about her being bad but at least she heals? :')
i started playing in 2021 so hoyo trained me to have low standards, i thought 3 purple and 10 blue was a steal 😭
We always protest about the rewards but they never listen 😭
Because they know you'll keep playing anyway.
@@YanDaMan263 yeah, Hoyo's gonna get a harsh reality check when half the playerbase transitions over to Wuthering Waves next month. I really hope the guy in charge of Genshin gets fired
@@exsecttas much as I hope this happens, it won't.
@@exsecttWon't happen, they'll just play both. The only way to improve Genshin is to have a new chief who's not an as*hole. He did it to Honkai Impact, now Genshin...
as much as I'm excited for ww and how much I hate gi this is sadly having a slight chance to happen after seeing what happened to that tower game @@exsectt
welcome to genshin, my favorite game
0 primogems
0 luck
0 life
0 pity
0 characters
0 bitches
This is so real. I had around 10 4-stars excluding March, Dan Heng and Asta one week into Honkai Star Rail but 2 weeks in Genshin and I only have 4 4-stars other than Amber, Kaeya and Lisa. 💀
The answer is in genshin you can get primogem so much mostly from exploring. So the genshin event have less stuff than other hoyoverse game. So, the gacha stuff you want in genshin is from exploring. Meanwhile in hsr, you cant get much stellar jade from exploring. So they give you more in the event.
Another thing about Genshin, and why I stopped playing, is that building a single character takes like a whole month, and you have to plan out every week day for farming
Dude I love in Star Rail that stuff isn’t locked by day. It’s so nice.
The problem with Honkai star rail is that building characters is 10x worse since there is soooo much to improve on your character 😭😭
@@aoiferibeirotbh I find it so much easier to build in star rail. There may be a little more to build, but you don’t have to collect as much stuff as in Genshin. The items for ascending your characters and the leveling traces are easy to come by. It doesn’t take nearly as long to build them especially once you’re used to the mechanics
@@0yourmom019 idk my characters in star rail can’t defeat enemies even if they wanted to, whereas my genshin characters are great, barely use bursts. It could be that I am more accustomed to genshin and that I have spent 3 years on that compared to the year I’ve spent in Honkai star rail, but the difficulty in the latter is much higher imo.
@@0yourmom019it's much easier farming in Genshin though. You don't need to level a ton of talents AKA traces like you would in HSR plus a lot of characters, primarily supports, can neglect to level skills, bursts, or normal attack talent at all.
We can take Xianyun for example. Her dmg is pretty negligible so her skill isn't that necessary, and neither would you use her normal attacks. Thus her Burst is the only thing you should prioritize but that's only for the healing. You can just keep it at lvl 6 and be fine. Even then, there are characters like Bennett where you don't need to level up skill and NA and just focus on a primary talent to level.
HSR makes it to where having all traces at up-to-date levels is quite necessary since you may want to effect break, save skill points, or need a higher push on dps.
Leveling all traces in HSR is just more worthwhile than doing so in Genshin. Not very often will you need to level NA talents in Genshin, even for dps character.
Oh you want the answer ?
It's just one word: Money...
Another word: producer
It’s actually a marketing strategy, people had problems with Genshin impact so they made a better game that the people requested for Genshin impact- hope that helps too 😅
we're genshin players, of course we don't go outside to farm wishes for the character we want months or years before they get their banner so that we know we have enough to get them.
you gotta farm for primos so you can exhange them into intertwined fate, each ten pull gives you a 4 star
They can give anything and receive alot of hate but when an update gets released the drama is all gone 😭
Honestly I think genshin does good woth limiting your items ofc since you can get things from tons of chests but I do think they should give the players a tad bit more
@@ThatDeltaboi I agree dude 💯
@@ThatDeltaboithe chests are mainly at the beginning when you haven’t explored anything yet, but it will run out eventually and you’ll struggle to get wishes from the few hidden chests you haven’t found yet
Real or like a really good character come, cause when arlecchino leak come, I don't see ppl talking about anniv😂
@@iker9095 you won't run out because they keep adding new regions
It's very simple, HSR is a game in a crowded market, they need to be generous to pull people in and keep them. Genshin on the other hand is essentially the only open world gacha game so with no competition they don't have to be as generous. I expect that to change as Wuthering Waves and other games of its ilk hit the market.
This ☝️
Tbh, I will hold my judgment for WuWa for when it comes out. People said ToF would do that, but it faded into obscurity within a few months.
Bro it's not gonna change, just accept the fact that Genshin staff are miserable and hate the community. Btw HSR competitors are as strong as tower of fantasy was (nothing) you just have to see the revenue chart from march xD
@santiXero I seriously doubt the happiness of the staff has anything to do with how Genshin is monetized. The people at the top will do whatever they think will squeeze the most revenue from the game regardless of employee moral.
@@margaram78 it definitely, or at least it did at the start, we stopped having the teyvat news, we stopped having the Devs talks as much as the first patches, the social media pages stopped interacting with the users, so yes, it has a lot to influence
While Wuthering waves would give you one of their worker's credit card just because of a single bug
I witnessed my brother randomly open the game for the first time in months and immediately get a 5 star
I started playing genshin first, and when i started to play honkai star rail, i was so shocked by the rewards 😭😭😭. Us poor genshin people when we start to play hsr!
That's ussaly means that there are a lot of characters that are no good at all
David (producer of HI3 & HSR) loves the players, Cai (producer of (formally HI3 and) GI) doesn't
Welcome to the life of a genshin player
Lol thanks
Yep
We've been asking that question for ages, still no one has the real answer
Bait used to be believable.
Theres also like 4+ years worth of content in genshin thats farmable for wishes. Its not instant gratification, but you can get a lot of stuff completely f2p just by playing the game
Just be slave to the game and you get bread crumbs*
Grind 10 hours a day for a week and you might get a few pulls 🤑 ( maybe around 50 if you're new and 3-4 if you're towards endgame )
@@yourfreindlyneighoborhoodhomie play the game to... play the game. i know. crazy concept
@@Chaoticvc its pretty generous if you're early game. id say a lot more than 50 if youre doing 10 hours a day for a week like a psycho
@@yourfreindlyneighoborhoodhomiethose breadcrumbs totaling to like at least 300 wishes ight
Genshins the forgotten middle child.
I guess
Forgotten. As if it and star rail arent the 2 highest grossing gachas.
@@DoujinReader after seeing one of Genshin's main story writers say they are not going to be focusing on Genshin that much anymore, safe to say they treat this game like a cashcow rather than it's own game. Sucks cause there's so many passionate people in the team, all the lore and characters are carefully crafted with their respective cultures in mind, yet HYV themselves don't give a shit anymore.
They call genshin 0018282782
0 wishes
0 primos
18282782 unfinished quests
Save ur fates firstly and secondly u get the most gates by doing quest. Save primos I played for like 2 and had 1k primos those promos can be exchange for fates and u get. Star wishes or sum and u can exchange those for fates( the blue & pink wishes are fates)
I think it's because to hoyo honkai is their baby while genshin is the often forgotten middle child lol
That's not the case, the real reason is because the Director of Genshin is extremely stingy while the director of Star Rail (David) it is better and gives more rewards in hi3 and hsr.
@@UmCaraAe90 so why don't the people above him say anything? I'd like to think these people see the complaints and change directors or something.
@@KratosAurionPlays Idk but I think it's because he owns a large part of the company
@@KratosAurionPlayshe’s one of the co-founders
So in this logic zenless zone zero will be the mix of middle forgettable child and the youngest child ?? Because I think it will be like that.
I switched to Wuthering Waves and honestly, I don't regret it.
true I got 3 5star Character in 40 pulls
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Think of it like the currency of a country like Zimbabwe versus America where at one point in seven Parkway if you paid one American dollar for anything they would bring out entire stack of cash for change
That’s the value difference between Genshin or America and Hai star rail or Zimbabwe
Not quite sure, because I has played Honkai Star Rail only for some weeks, but compared to Genshin, there was way less possibility to get Stellar Jade from Exploring, which you can transfer into wishes. So in Genshin you can get tons of Primogems just for running around in the world. Its more like grinding for new characters instead of log in for 2 mins a day
Genshin players: Here my money mihoyo
Mihoyo: good, now I'm going to invest in star rail
Literally what happened.
I moved from genshin to star rail lol
And its a nice change of pace
Trust me you won't be disappointed it's really good
Same
how are you likin it?@@visiblepain7676
I did the same and the difference is night and day
I’m eating so good rn in star rail, I got almost half of the character I own to the maximum I can (trailblaze level 45)
The only thing is that I’m broke after doing all that
Butttt since the game is generous as hell, they gave me a lot of fuel and the 2400 extra, so I can farm everything back
I think they have given more rewards than they did in 2022 which was when i first played. The anniversary rewards just used to be a couple eggs and 100 primos (which isn't enough for even 1 character) but since games are competing with them they're slowly upping their game i feel
We need more videos like this to pop up and Hoyovers see them and know that they're so stingy on genshin and we hate that
There are a few reasons. First genshin is an open world exploration game and it rewards you for doing so. Most of the currency is in the overworld. Second genshin doesn't have any real competition so no need to lure in people with a free limited 5* character. And third in my experience Genshins late game doesn't rely as much on you having specific characters so not getting them doesn't hurt you as much as star rail. Like I could roll into the abyss with only 1.x characters and be fine.
So go off on a little adventure, explore way beyond where the plot takes you, discover a 10 hour vegetable people quest and go insane if you're a completionist, because you tried to find all 75 little veggie lads
To clear up some stuff you can clear the hardest content in the game with free characters in hsr too hsr also rewards exploration genshin's core gameplay loop gets old fast granted hsr too but they add new endgame content to mix things up such as moc pure fiction and gold and gears so there is always something new to do you should try it some time
Not the 10 hour vegetable people quest LMAO 😂
I mean, HSR doesn't have any competition either per say. It is true that HSR's playerbase was going down due to a couple of filler patches though. But yeah, with the free dr. Ratio and Penacony release back to back, the playerbase has definitely bumped up.
even if you try hard the exploration you can´t get a pity every patch which is lame
Aranara quest Aware
The main reason people never consider is because in honkai you actually NEED good teamcomp. If your team underperforms doesnt matter what you do, you just wont win a fight. In genshin even if you are hard underleveled on paper you still can beat even the strongest bosses if you play well
EDIT: Another thing i forgot to include is that in honkai, you dont get much jades from exploring. 30 chests per couple small areas and thats it. In honkai you have so many ways to get primos in open world. Hundreds of chests, oculi statues etc. You can get much more than 10 pulls per patch
Someone finally said that
Yup, also we should not forget that HSR releases 3 New characters per patch, Genshin only 1.5 (3 characters per 2 patches), so per patch you need or skip or pull for more in HSR to have same efficiency roster as you can have in Genshin with less wishes... And all of this with Genshin's casual friendly gameplay, so anyone can play it without much of time or money investments and still have efficient teams and builds.
P.S. - also Signature weapons in Genshin are more skins to match the character visuals, rather than something character must have, by effectiveness in content that from HSR and Genshin provide, HSR's 5* LCs from Herta store are the same by its stat value for HSR as craftable 4* weapons in Genshin for Genshin, but first in yellow and have 5 stars on image and another is purple and have 4 stars, but their effectives actually in games are similar, tbh, by outcome some craftable 4* weapons in Genshin have even better stat value for Genshin, than some 5* LCs in HSR for HSR.....
Yes I agree! The amount of times I’ve just had to change my team up in Honkai for a healer or just a character or 2 that is the weakness of the enemy is a lot lol. It makes it 10x easier😭 if you don’t have the right character/element it just won’t work out🤷♀️
No that's not true , try fighting azdaha with dogshiit team. He will whoop your ass ( besides coop)
@@maxroy6933 Azhdaha is pain but still doable, I farmed him a lot using kaeya, xiangling, qiqi and barbara.
That’s the best part! THE GAMBLING!💀
I never thought an HSR player that have never player Genshin exists
I actually got nuivelle in like my first pull or something. but yeah I hate how hard it is to get stuff but that makes it more fun. maybe not for people that have explored everything but it makes me more rewarding getting a character. all though you will get over it quite fast lol.
The huge open world plays into this differently. The exploration and boss fights are the endgame rather than a whole gauntlet of escalating difficulty challenges. The turn based aspect makes your characters worth different values than an open world game.
Genshin barely has an endgame, sadly
There's only the Abyss which is heavily biased towards the banner character, and even then that's meh
It doesn't excuse how fair honkai is and how unfair genshin is, I love genshins gameplay but it is horrifically stingy with wishes and bad events
@@wolvesrevenge866 genshin has almost 100 characters now and getting one takes forever. events are so easy i beat them with my dmg qiqi and they give the equivalent of 3$ in primogems like bruh
@@whitesaintatarmaon5766maybe read what he wrote
@@siema14123so do you need new characters?
I completely forgot why. But there was something similar with another game of theirs (Honkai Impact?) had some sort of reward management changed and the rewards were finally good. As far as i know, Genshin still has someone stinky helping handle that stuff
Ngl that's what I thought first, but in the long run, u can get all the characters u want, and AFTER that the boring time comes. Just enjoy the slow growth of your account as long as you can
One idea is that it’s cause in Genshin you basically can do stuff without pulling as much as in Star Rail, cause in Star Rail, you have to watch for weaknesses so the fight is easier, in Genshin you can sometimes brute force a fight against a resistant enemy, even then you’re not entirely countered 😅
If an enemy is not weak to Ice for example, bringing an Ice unit will not break the weakness, but unless the enemy is immune, bringing a Cryo unit against a Cryo resistant enemy only means that the fight is harder
I just wish traveling was more convenient yk like stamina wise it takes forever to travel places sometimes
@@ThatDeltaboi definitely unlock waypoints asap, i do it as soon as a new area is released
@@ThatDeltaboi regarding stamina, you have to level up the statues in mondstadt and liyue to greatly increase your stamina😊
You get a free character of each type so that's not an issue to be honest
On that, you can keep a character unleveled and just use them for the application for a lot of the game
In HSR you *need* to build
ok here is the actual answer, most of the time genshin patchtes give you as much stuff as honkai star rail patches, the diffrence is in how you obtain it all, genshin often add new region with their patches that have an abundance of chests to collect, if you add all that to the events and other compensation in the patch you end up with a pretty similar amount to hsr, it's definetly more work then the few chests hsr add when they make a new area
Sweet actually thank you for giving me an answer other than "grind more" or "genshin could never" I don't think the game is bad I wish I had a better way of traveling but that's abt it
Yep but that's the problem. Take the current state of both games for example.
I'm currently at 96% in Cheyu vale exploration and I have only enough primos for 30-40 pulls. Meanwhile, in HSR, I already obtained all the chests and did all the puzzles in Penacony and I got enough for 50+ pulls.
We can argue they are around he same. BUT, don't forget that HSR also gave me 10 free pulls after the update + the 600 primogems. Meanwhile, Genshin only gave me those 600 primogems.
This is the problem. You had to put more work into Genshin than in HSR, but you're getting the same amount. I myself enjoys the exploration, so I don't mind it that much, but it's still irritating to think about it.
Not really but okey@@allentayoto7387
Considering this patch is giving us 50-55 pulls and HSR’s 2.1 patch is giving almost 100 f2p pulls solidifies this as false. Even if you say 2.1 is their anniversary patch, it’s still more than genshin’s anni patch.
You know even HSR new regions have chests right? Just that they are spread out everywhere and takes hellish more grinding. Whereas in HSR each chest gives 10-30 jades, Genshin gives 2-10 which makes it lot harder to collect. You earn about 1.5x the Jades in HSR compared to Genshin in any month.
The insert of u saying ALLEGEDLY is cracking me up 🤣
I'm pretty sure it's because of one of the developers in hoyo, he used to work on hi3 and gave bad rewards and got switched to work on genshin while another dev got sent to work on hi3, who gave hi3 players generous rewards. That same person also works on hsr
Actually I started with genshin Impact so that's normal for me and I enjoy doing the hardwork to collect stuff. Beside I have a lot of characters now 😅
Really what characters do you have?
Same but only anemo five stars and they are short emo boys but their my fav characters so I ain’t mind
Ya, i started too and now i have like half of all characters
That’s why I quit and joined Wuthering waves
I played Wuthering Waves and I like it. The chance of getting legendary weapon and character is higher 😂 I already obtained 4 Legendary resonators just for free ❤
Same here
It's a lot of fun and they actually care about their players. I'm done with genshin, I'll only go back for lore 😮💨
@@BunniBoyJuicy yeah and maybe Lisa 🙄
The main reason Wuwa is better is because it has better starting gameplay with less grinding for every characters. You just need to build one character only and the game progress would still be smooth af. MC is decent if not amazing and you don't need to build every elements just to farm for the specific materials. When I started my new acc in genshin, you know what makes me the most frustrated? The domain for upgrading characters. You need a specific characters built for farming that other character, like... wtf bro, if my characters is already built, why would I build another character just to build another characters. My worst nightmare is that monsdtad cryo domain, which needs to have pyro character to farm an artifacts for my cryo characters, and if I want to build my pyro character, I needed hydro characters to farm for the materials too.
genshin is this… but wuthering waves is like “im so sorry you lagged once! please forgive us! take 15 radiant tides!!”*
in my opinion, the challenge to collect characters is one of my favorite parts. and it feels much more rewarding when you FINALLY get the character you want, like im still happy from when i got neuvillette and his signature weapon on his first banner and the happiness probably wont die down for a while.
The thing is, Genshin Impact is significantly easier to complete all the content in while Honkai Star Rail has a much larger difficulty ceiling. Not to mention Genshin came out in 2020 while HSR came out in 2023, so the demand for free rewards is likely higher with Hoyo's reputation and so they don't wanna disappoint.
They're also ran by different ppl of the same company so there's that issue
Easier to complete? I remember spending at least 4 hours per day just to complete one simple side quest, Star Rail only took me 2 hours to complete several quests per row 😅
@@casieylucy0512 easy and hard does not mean the same as long and short. If you were told to clean the halls in school is it hard? No it’s easy, it just takes long
@@oh-noe whats Socrates doing in a genshin comment section
Genshin has a giant open world so there’s like a hundred thousands of chests and puzzles, that’s where you get the goodies. On the other hand, for star rail you don’t get as much open world for exploring and getting rewards so they give us the goodies
That's fair I didn't know you could get items from puzzles too?
@@ThatDeltaboi yes you can solve overworld puzzle and get primogems in the chest
doing world/story/event quest also give you some primogems
items/chest/puzzle are scatter around the maps
@@kolapsg7748finally someone who understands the difference and doesn’t just cry over not being handed rewards. Most patches enables you to get enough rewards for about 40-80 wishes depending on the patch/events
@@ThatDeltaboiInfact, you can even get Talent materials through chests, and if you get some of these Elemental Keys, you can open the Shrines of Depth, giving you 40 primos, and shitton of 4 star Artifacts and even golden Talent materials ( so the max lvl ones).
U just need to spend 3 months worth of time collecting all those chest
Nah I'm good
I've been playing for a total of about six full days. I have Razor, Gaming, Kaeya, Amber, Xiangling, Lynette, Kuki Shinobu, Lisa, Noelle, Jean and Barbra. I have 75 Primogems, 0 Acquint Fates and 10 Intertwined Fates. I need luck for pulling Furina.
It's bc there is more competition in the honkai format of games that's why you get more rewards
Genshin players are willing to spend more for less
So why give them more if they're willing to spend?
Basically, milking the cow
Then genshin will die
@@stepankadlec7375 i had a friend who downloaded genshin, spenr 2k$ to get yelan full constellation, her weapon at AR 5
Then uninstalled, and only downloaded the game when there's a new "waifu" to pull and uninstall, never play the game
So with people like that existing... Doubt the get will die
@@stepankadlec7375Unlikely. Genshin is… kinda harder to play, but that makes it more of a challenge. I played Genshin first and Honkai second, and honestly, while Honkai is still pretty amazing, it’s awfully easy. One of the first characters I pulled was Clara, and next was my favorite, Kafka, and after that, life was easy. Now that I have the Doctor guy as well, I get through every fight like a knife through butter, but with that, no challenge anymore. With Genshin, you actually have to think, who to use, who to pull for, and those who like Genshin, life for it, and that’s why it won’t die.
I mean, there are people who spend thousands weekly on Genshin.
@@kariminami3388 honestly, this will continue until the players stop paying that much, nothing will change
If they agreed on not spending for just q month, suddenly the company will feel like improving the game