The Last Christmas at Harborplace | 3 dead malls plaguing Baltimore, MD | Exlog 113
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Merry Christmas, everybody! Happy Holidays and a prosperous New Year to all of you! Harborplace has fallen!! This once bastion of hope for Baltimore City has seen its final Christmas in 2021, and I was there to film it just one day before closing. I went back a few days ago to get some updated footage, too. I hope you all enjoyed...see you in 2023!
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I had a fever of over 102 when doing this voiceover, final edit and render...I don't remember doing it at all. Merry Christmas...subscribe?
Thank you for producing these beautiful films and sharing!
Yikes, I hope you are feeling better! Thank you for the awesome content. Have a great holiday!
Hope you feel better, Sal
Excellent video. Hope you are feeling better. Merry Christmas
I hope you're feeling better, please get some rest in between your amazing works. Stay safe and Happy Holidays!!
I lived in this area about 12 years ago and the inner harbor used to be so magical to me. I am in tears seeing it like this now.
12 years ago it was magical? You gotta be kidding me. I lived in Balto for many decades. 12 years ago it was a crime ridden democrat city craphole. Now it is a super craphole democrat city.
@@glennsmith3303 I mean, I agree with you there. And I do wish people around here would vote better! I have many good memories in the inner harbor despite all that.
I agree. this hurts
Corrupt, incompetent leadership installed by clueless voters.
I worked there for 3-4 years during my college years. Would work in 2 places during the summer.
Times change. They will rebuild and make it better.
Born and raised in Baltimore it's so sad to see it slowly fade away.
2 more years of Joe and the entire USA is going to look like one huge dead mall!!
How many years did you vote blue?
@@lenamonroe4130why’s it a good thing?
@@lenamonroe4130 yeah, why is it a good thing in your perspective?
I used to be a vendor for many of the businesses in Harborplace. I watched it deteriorate steadily over a period of 6 years. The new owners really ran it into the ground. I remember those areas fondly from the 80's and early 90's. It was so alive and vibrant back then.
It's weird. I was a teenager and worked in retail places + City Lights. 1 main job during the year and added another during the summer when I was out of school and it was busier.
But, transferred colleges far away and ended up working for a very large specialty retail company, but quickly moved to a smaller one. Smaller companies allow you to interact with many different departments.
Have to imagine the death knell was Rouse getting bought out by GGP. I know how those companies operate. They funny part is I remember the Real Estate department head complain about it's a headache to do with some of the leases because they are one offs. A few stores here and a few stores there.
At least in the 90s, Rouse made a point of getting a bit eclectic stores. They just had a bunch of odd no-brand shops there. Also, the retail environment was different and you didn't have as many mass chain stores (or the internet). Not sure if the t-shirt focused on countries or the store that sold leather belts could survive today.
When I arrived in Maryland, in the early 90s, Baltimore City was a fun place with jazz bars, Irish bars, small play actor theaters, museums, dance clubs, upscale restaurants, New Years at hotels, Lexington Market and the Harbor Complex, Sports Stadium, Meyerhoff, Mechanic Theater, Hippodrome Theater, Center Theater and Convention Center. Now, in 2022, it has become wiser to avoid the city altogether because of the very high crime rate and lack of enforcement.
I can’t believe harborplace at the gallery is gone. It was right next to the inner harbor Renaissance and you had to go through the hotel if you parked there. It will be missed by me and my friends who loitered there 22 years ago. The pavilion used to be shoulder to shoulder with jam packed people I loved the kite shop but it’s all dead now.
That place died years ago when they took out the food court and all the stores worth going to
Well I had been in close to two decades now but I remember it filled with shops
This is heartbreaking. I remember getting off of work on Friday's and making the four mile walk to the Inner Harbor. I would treat myself to a good dinner and then walk up and sit on the benches at Federal Hill and gaze at the beauty of a revitalized city reflecting on the harbor for what seemed like hours. And there was a boat called the Port Welcome that you could either take a tour of the harbor (it would go out to the Key Bridge) or take the Deluxe cruise to Annapolis. And there was the coolest store ever in the Gallery called the Sharper Image. I am almost in disbelief at the Inner Harbor's demise. Sal thank you for your excellent presentation.
I still remember this area fondly growing up in Baltimore County, it was a treat for my parents to take me downtown to the Inner Harbor on the weekends back in the early 90's. We'd eat somewhere in one of the Pavillions for lunch, walk to the Science Center or Aquarium, and up Federal Hill before wrapping things up and heading home. I left Baltimore around 2001 after graduating high school and enlisting in the military, and finally returned home to Maryland in 2017 for work. The Inner Harbor was starting to lose its luster at the time, but not all hope was lost, or so I thought.
The last 3 years was really what killed the Inner Harbor, and driving through the area a few months ago at night, it looked like something out of a zombie apocalypse movie.
Seeing this area fall apart is like a piece of my childhood dying along with it. My wish is that they would revitalize this area so my own kids could enjoy this place as much as I did when I was young, but who knows.
It's sad when something you love shuts down. My favorite mall experiences were Christmas shopping. I live in San Diego but had visited the malls you showed when I lived in Arlington, Virginia. They were very nice. It's sad to see the condition they're in now. I hate having to shop online. I want malls.
I want malls, too :(
Me too
Agree. I admit that I've adapted to online shopping now, but there was something so organic and special about shopping "in-person" that can't be recreated. I have fond memories through childhood (and even early adulthood since I'm old enough) of shopping during holidays, meeting up with friends at the mall on weekends in high school, experiences all the sites and sounds of malls. It's sad to see them die, and I feel sorry for young people who never got the organic experience of shopping and socializing in malls. Similar to the movie experience, which was a special experience that can't be replicated at home (even if more convenient and less hassle with all the streaming options now). I remember going with friends, taking a first date there, etc. But sadly our way of life is changing....
I remember when Harborplace opened. Next to the MD science center, Baltimore’s World Trade Center, the National Aquarium, the USS Constellation. The place was always packed, especially on New Year’s Eve. Panhandlers, vagrants, and crime chased everyone away.
How is this racist?
@@sal I guess someone erased their comment….
@Lena Monroe so I’m honest and I’m a racist. Welcome to the real world.
@@sal thank you for these videos. It brings so many of my childhood memories back. You have no clue how many of these malls I’ve been too. Love them all!!!
Speaking of New Year's Eve, how was it at the IH welcoming 2023? How many people came for the fireworks, or were they cancelled?
The mall is beautiful! It’s a shame it couldn’t last. There’s so much crime in Baltimore. I have a feeling that may have been the downfall of the mall. I have watched Dan Bell’s videos walk around Baltimore at night. But malls are dying all over. It’s sad how times change. I was born in 1976 and malls were the place to be.
To be fair, Baltimore had a lot of crime earlier too. Two TV shows were built off the crime in Baltimore, l.
I can't believe the emotions I felt watching this. Words just can't describe how sad this was for me to watch💔 I left Maryland in 2014. Wow so many beautiful memories I have
Thank you for the video
I love your comments.🤎
Wow! Fantastic video. The Christmas tree at 0:22 may be the saddest tree ever because it's just so lonely. Judging by the engagement and response to this video, I have to say the Dead Mall community is alive and doing very well. Thank you for this work! It is so appreciated.
It’s so sad that our once beautiful harbor area has come to this. Harborplace is like a sunken ship, neglected and forgotten! This is as depressing as it was when the area was a string of neglected warehouses.The after is looking like the before. Baltimore born, raised, still residing and saddened!😢
it started to decline in 2005 when all the homeless moved there and criminals started to attack convention goers to otakon. i had been going to otakon for almost 9 years and stopped after 2007....
@@elfeintwentyfives1620 I think you’re right. I worked in the Habor from 89-93. I was mugged for $80 after work and I quit after that. The restaurant I worked for closed in 2005.
Love the sticker I've seen "Baltimore- There's more than murder here". Yeah... but not much more.
I'm from western PA but Baltimore, MD is my honorary home town I was down there and these dead malls broke my heart
Ah. I lived in Baltimore for grad school 1997 to 2002. Harbour Place was one of the few things I could access on public transit. There were really good deals there in shops like Banana Republic. I still have my Big Job Interview Suit from Brooks Brothers! Anyhow it all seemed like a hopeful part of urban renewal. I'm sorry to see it shut down, it still seemed new and fresh back then.
My God. This is before your time. But, I swear that Banana Republic used to be...a literal safari theme when it opened. I was still a kid and didn't understand what the hell the store was. But, by the time I was a teenage working in Harborplace, Banana Republic had shifted genres, but I don't remember it. Wasn't really into clothes back then.
(I ended up working for Banana Republic's parent company in the corporate offices.)
It looked like it was magical once upon a time. So sad to see such a beautiful structure rot away like this.
Been in these Malls hundreds of times. Very surprised at what has happened.
Keep doing your important work. 👌
One can never get enough of Jim Rouse and his malls!
But they are basically all dead.
Jim Rouse began Mondawmin Mall (then Mondawmin Center) on Gwynns Falls Parkway in 1956. Mondawmin Mall is still around.
@@armorybrunotjr.3204 yes it is now why is it one of the few left what makes it different than say golden ring mall closed for 20 years - Eastpoint has the same reason for still existing
@@RobertMillerJustme Mondawmin is still around bc it's easier 2 get 2, & it has free parking. It serves it's local community. Harborplace loses a lot of business n the winter months. I worked n 1 of the Pavillion & it was not maintained well. Leaks all over the place & broken escalators made it unfriendly 4 disabled customers.
@@mistermilkman - It serves the poor slaves of Baltimore City, it is nothing more than another company store with so few in Baltimore it serves its corporate slaveholders well.
FYI - I grew up in Baltimore, stayed for 38 years and left in Texas now and would never go back
I think what I love most about your videos besides the great tours and the scary liminal spaces is your well done research and almost encyclopedic knowledge of the properties that you cover. Buyouts, real estate prices, bankruptcy, stock prices, debt, assets etc. I feel like I am also getting an education in the world of commercial real estate.
I can’t believe it. I took my son to an Orioles game in the summer of 2017, From NYC. We stayed in the hotel right across the street from the Mall where Ripley’s and Hooters was. It had a walk way bridge. He still talks about that 3 day trip to the Harbor. What a shame to see how it is now. Hopefully it will regain its glory.
I remember eating at Paolo’s there. Beautiful white tablecloth restaurant. There was also a Fire & Ice store with artist glass creations for sale. It’s heartbreaking to see such a beautiful place so rundown.
Thanks for this video , I worked for the company that started the promenade in the late 70s, we also built the fountain that I heard is gone. What an absolute shame what has happened to that city. Keep up the good work.
I loved Ripley’s Believe It or Not! It’s so sad to see. Baltimore is so crime ridden. Nobody wants to work or spend money.
I guess it was mostly “or not”?🤪
As a 65 yr old Baltimore native, I remember when the waterfront warehouses were torn down in the late 1970s, and when Harborplace was built. So beautiful. This is a perfect example of citizens electing politicians who allow this to happen. Nearby Columbia, Towson and Annapolis malls are thriving, but Baltimore is toast. And everyone knows it.
Is the Columbia mall thriving these days? When I left the area in '14 the Columbia mall had a lot of empty storefronts showing up and the roof was starting to leak everywhere.
Baltimore and Baltimore city counties are responsible for 26% of Maryland’s GDP. So, yea, those politicians know something about facts.
Great content. Reminds me of the Jacksonville Landing, but much bigger. Food, alcohol live music and young people is how most downtowns get revitalized.
It doesn't seem like Baltimore will ever really come back.
I was born in 1982. I'm from Maryland. Harbor Place was all I ever knew of Baltimore's Inner Harbor. It was a big part of what drew people from inside and outside Baltimore to come into the city. At one point, it was a safe place for tourists to walk around and enjoy the Harbor and the boats.
Even back in the '90s, they talked about the "bubble zone". There was always a police presence in Harborplace though. I worked at one of the stores in the Light Street Pavilion and we had a panic button.
We accidently hit it once and the police came rushing to our location.
I'm pretty much surprised this harbour is having such a backlash. It looks pretty neat I think. Wishing you a meryy Christmas from The Netherlands!
Hopefully the new plans and ideas come to fruition. I'm in PA about 40 miles north of Baltimore and always enjoyed Harborplace. I wish you all the best.
When I got married in August 1997, my friends gave us 2 nights at the old Omni hotel before we did a week at the Poconos. We got to play tourist in our hometown. Things were hopping back then, and it was a blast. We came back downtown every year, bringing our daughter, until my wife got sick. I haven't been back since the late 2000s, so this is absolutely heartbreaking, sadly not surprising. At least I have my memories.
I use to hop on the subway and go buy some chicken from Lexington Market and than I would walk down to the Harbor Place and sit in the food court and sit in eat boy those days was great.
I’ll give them credit, they did a good job of making the mall not seem dead, even if it was. This looks like a beautiful building, and I wish I could have visited!
Man almost all the malls in that area are “No go” zones. As a kid, I used to catch the Metro to Springfield mall and drool at all the Super Bowl stuff in the Redskins store, hang out in the food court, go to the toy stores to see all the NES games……then went back last year after 30+ years. That whole area has declined so much……sad. I’ll never live in the DMV ever again.
As a child (from Salisbury, Md) we would go on a field trip to the Inner Harbor in the 80's (elementary school) and in one of these places was a Baltimore Orioles store that was soooo magical to me and it was in one of these two stores that I remember. Alas that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
Wow, that's a long day trip. Isn't that like a 2 hour drive? We (Baltimore County) would go to DC for field trips and that was 1 hour.
@@HKim0072 It was longer than that honestly and it was a long day, but well worth it. Back then, and even now, there isn't much around here to do lol
So sad to see the Inner Harbor like this. In the 1980's when it was rocking, it was worth it to drive from Northern Virginia to spend the day at Harborplace.
you can bet there is a grant of money to rehabilitate the joint and someone's friend got the money - Block Grants are given to buddies
I lived just north of the Inner Harbor in an apartment on the corner of N Calvert and Fayette from 2011 through 2014. We loved living there and almost bought a condo with a plan to settle there. Wow! I am glad we moved away instead.
Sal, this is hard to watch. I remember when these 2 places were the place to be. Would come to MD to visit relatives and really looked forward to going to the inner harbor
WOW! It's 12/31/2022, and I just happened to come across this video a little before 12:00 noon. I remember when I worked downtown. Me and a co-worker used to go to The Gallery every day for lunch. I can't believe it's closing or maybe closed by now. You can tell a place is closed pretty much when you hear an echo as you talk. I'm glad you're doing videos because there are places that I wish they had pictures of that are no longer here and have been gone for a while...Thank you! 😊👍🏽Subscribing today!
Sal, I am a new subscriber and currently watching my 3rd video, fantastic content Sal, a cut above. Great videos and thanks for making the content. I live in the UK and only know a handful of these malls but they are fascinating to watch and learn about.
Sal! So sorry you got a ticket & have the flu!!I’ve been to sooo many field trips and spent so much time at the Harbor, especially when I was at UMBC. Like Bunk told Omar, “it makes me sick to see how far we’ve fallen”. There goes a landmark of my youth!
One of the very best, most memorable TV series of all time, The Wire! .
@@ronaldturner4849 Indeed!
This was a hard video to watch, because it brought back a lot of fond memories of going to the Inner Harbor thru the ‘90s to early 2000s when I lived in Maryland. Hopefully the next prospects will be able to do something to draw people back.
Wild, a lot of other malls are booming and ones like these are just fading away.
Sal, your videos keep getting better and better! I can't wait for the new episodes next year! I would like to wish you a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year!
Been there so many times, so sad that this place has all but collapsed. Feel better and Merry Christmas
This is so sad but yet a sign of the times. Honestly, I think cost has a lot to do with the failure of many malls. Taxes and cost of living continues to increase a LOT faster than pay checks. People just can’t afford the luxury of shopping and dining out. Lots of people must decide do I feed/house/clothe/medicate my family or do I shop at malls. Yes…this is sad but what is sadder is that many families are barely surviving and living paycheck to paycheck. If we fix our economic pitfall, I believe the rest will fall into place.
I have taken photos of retail centers and also occasionally run into security guards telling me not to take photos. This has happened at successful malls as well as struggling malls, not just dead malls. It’s likely because management doesn’t know what the photos/video footage will used for and it may negatively impact the image of the center. I think your videos provide an important, but very sad, historical record. I have been to Inner Harbor several times including 1984, 1987, 1989, 2000. Pretty sad to see what’s happened there-really thought with the stadiums, convention center, the waterfront and other area attractions there would have been enough synergy to keep it active. Thanks for doing this!
Wow. I grew up in MD , in my late teens and early 20s I worked at the Sun Glass hut, California pizza kitchen, Yankee candle in the Pratt St Pavilion and another Sunglass Hut at the Galleria across from the Pavilions :-( Crazy to see how much this area has changed, I left Baltimore in 2007. Those were the best days of my life. The stories I have from working in this area ...the good, the bad , the free entertainment...the life long friends. lol Thank you for this visit down memory lane :- )
The Inner Harbor in the 80s and 90s was awesome! Not far from Little Italy and dancing at the Fish Market, good times in the Harbor. This is sad
We used to take bus trips every year to the Baltimore Inner Harbor. People from all over used to do it. People still go but not like in the 90’s and early 2000’s. The inner harbor needs a serious makeover. Different times.
So sad to see The Gallery and Harborplace left to deteriorate like this. The Inner Harbor was THE place to be and spent many summers working there in the ‘80s. Everyone wanted to work at Phillips Seafood during the summer because of all of the tourists. The area stayed busy. I could tell you where every store was in the Pratt Street, Light Street Pavilions as well as the Gallery: Ann Taylor, Banana Republic, Brooks Brothers, Sharper Image, Hats in the Belfry, Pappagallos, Nine West, Coach, etc. I hope that new ideas will help to refresh the area and create a new and safe tourist attraction and local experience.
Ya I heard about them making the harbor and downtown better, I'm excited
I'm surprised to see the Riply's Believe it or Not museum closed! My husband took me there in 2016, before we married. Very crowded when we went. He took so many pictures of us there, by all the weird exhibits, including one right by that tallest man space. Surreal to see it empty, almost liminal.
I guess it’s mostly “or not”?🤪
Happy holidays, Sal!
Happy Holidays!!!
22:15 that part floods all the time.
It took me 2 or three nights to watch all of this. By the end my eyes were watering.
I have had the pleasure of multiple experiences of Harborplace during its heyday from 1980 till around 2007. Full of shops and eats. Spent most of my time in the Light Street pavilion. Bought burgers, fries, and a couple of baseball books. Many of those times were before O's games up the street. A couple of times I was there after work-related matters elsewhere in DT B'more.
As for the Gallery, I was in there once or twice when it was thriving in the '90s. I bought a book there too.
I hope the new owner brings it all back and that his efforts have a positive effect that blankets all of Baltimore.
Thank you, Sal, for your good professional work and research. Happy 2023. Let us know, folks about future developments (pun partially intended) at the Inner Harbor's centerpiece.
As always, beautifully done. It’s really sad to see, though. I remember when The Gallery land was a parking lot and we’d walk to Harborplace. We’d drive up for dinner, take tourist friends, and shop. Sigh. All that said, congratulations on having been contacted about the reno of the space, that’s brilliant! Hope you’re feeling better. Happy New Year, and Ex Logs!
It's crazy to think they're empty now, there was a time where you could barely squeeze between people and get up the stairs.
Man, I'm shocked that the Uno's has closed! I attend a convention at the Renaissance Hotel every year, and I'd usually end up getting a pizza at Uno's because it was always open late.
I wish you luck young man. It's quite sad to see a once beautiful city that seems to have taken the wrong road. Hopefully you can help turn it around.
The city is still beautiful but it is generally unsafe.
Baltimore will never turn around when it is ran by one party in a one party state with a monopoly on "ideas" and ideology totally beholden to globalism and Klaus Schwab's WEF agenda. Hint: it isn't conservatives.
So sad… i opened the gap at this mall, and years later helped move it to its new improved location in the mall.
This is very sad 😥to see the decline of Harbor Place! I have many happy memories from the early `90's of staying at the Inner Harbor with my parents to celebrate their wedding anniversery and catch a Baltimore Orioles game.
so sad, I used to visit starting in the late 1980's. Each time, closer to a warzone. Last time was for a military mission nearby, and it was a warzone. Which brings to light a truth that I learned growing up in a similar inner-city: We always have heard people say, "Poverty causes crime", but we see here that "Crime causes poverty", often in equal or greater measures. Shooting oneself in the foot, as the saying goes. To the Inner Harbor, Rest in Peace.
It is sad to be in the mall as is in its death throws I worked for a security company we covered two different malls as they want from hubs of activity to after the closing
It's very sad...being a native Baltimorean I remember how beautiful those areas were and all the great places to buy Baltimore themed souveniurs lots of great restaurants and an area to wander and enjoy the night. Haven't been there since early 2000's because of crime and being harassed for money from homeless people
This hurts. So many great memories there.
Merry Christmas man. Hopefully you had holiday filled with lots of cheers. great video!
Cheers!!!
Part of the problem, beyond being too close to sketchy areas or sketchy areas getting too close, is there are only so many people in Baltimore. With Mount Vernon, Power Plant, Harbor East, Fells Point, Fed Hill and Canton there are only so many people to fill the seats. And as food culture advanced in all those other spots in the city, Harborplace got chain restaurants for the tourists. Tourists are great and they'll spend stupid money but what they won't do is worry about being mugged. The locals were allowed to disperse around the city leaving just the hope of tourist dollars. Plus, no one with any common sense was driving into that traffic nightmare between 3 and 6.
In the mid 80s I was involved in retail and attended the national shopping center convention held in Las Vegas. I recall having the promotional brochure for Harborplace - even in 1985 it was being heavily promoted as a huge success for the company. I probably still have it in storage. The Rouse Company put some serious money into that promotional piece. The mall was featured in a number of mall industry trade magazines.
Wow. My 20-nothing ghost is running around in there. Strange what you remember about these places. The last thing I bought here--ages ago, when it was still kind of hopping--was a blue leather tote bag I used in college. That bag is long gone. Sad to see this place go, too.
Truly sad how far the inner harbor has fallen. What was once a shining example of urban revitalization has succumbed to the several decades of repeated poor politics and corruption of Baltimore City.
In other words. Democrats.
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@@jerrysanders9101 yes, democrats in Maryland bring in 84% of Marylands gdp. Baltimore city is number 3 by county, following two other Democratic counties. Red counties bring in 16% of Marylands GDP. You’ve let the GOP clowns convince you of many fallacies that have nothing to do with politics.
Excellent Christmas Eve viewing material - thanks Sal!! 🤘🏼
I love the architecture. It's beautiful!
It’s mind blowing light street has succumbed to desolation. It was always packed when I was there. Sad.
Devastating…but I’m hopeful.
I still love the Harbor. I love Baltimore. I have always had a nice time there. We go every year for either Mothers day or Moms Birthday for seafood.
why did you get a ticket your not the only car there ?????
I'm glad someone is shows interest in saving that mall and involving you, as someone in chat said, most of it's suffering came from tenant lineup not matching the demographics, if most of it was luxury with one of the few "affordable" stores being H&M.
Speaking of the Brookfield purchase Ala Moana Shopping Center was acquired by them too. I think only one wing (Target) was on life support for a bit (after the shutdowns) with the only thing open being a Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant. The top part is back now with a Peanut's themed maze thing and a big candy themed store with the BWW. GGP managed to keep the oldest tenant (a Japanese department store) in the shopping center in a food court format, only to have Brookfield "forcibly" shut it down in late 2020/early to mid 2021, the restaurant in there also had it's own space, and that was included in the closure too, it lead to a court fight between the (now former) tenant and Brookfield for the property left in the spaces, including a bunch of wine (since the restaurant was a vintage wine cellar of sorts).
I question them closing it down now, since I feel like it was kind of done with malice to get them out so they wouldn't compete with the "house" food courts (the one that's been there since the center was built and the one that is in the lower floor of the original space of the tenant that GGP moved during the renovation of the Sears wing, after it got seared).
The renovation that GGP did before they died as an umbrella company to Ala Moana after Sears got seared was amazing, only done in 7-8 short years. I'm glad they didn't leave the Sears space abandoned like a lot of those malls covered in these videos and just demolished the top two floors and expanded the wing, where Nordstrom moved (Nordstrom moved from the space Target/Saks off 5th/Planet Fitness is in now), and also managed to get a our state's only Bloomingdales into that same wing. That expansion may not be suffering from anchoritis, but it's suffering from tenant-itis, I forgor how many stores/restaurants moved from that little courtyard area since the time it opened, I only remember a novelty ice cream store that cooled ice cream using liquid nitrogen, Magnolia's, and Forever 21 on the 3rd floor. (the former two were on the mall level [*note: 1st floor is street level])
Howard Hughes still exists as a holding company though they own the Ward Center complex and built a whole bunch of high rise condos within it.
So many memories of the Harborplace related to Otakon. I'm gonna miss Tir Na Nog the most I think.
I will miss the pavilion restaurants. I used to love visiting them.
Excellent job as usual Sal. Well done. Happy holidays
Cheers, Jeremy!
@@sal Visited Baltimore only once. Went to Old Town Mall in 2017. Can’t imagine what it’s like now 😆
It’s exactly the same…just more deteriorated
Love these vlogs! Feel better!!
Same everywhere it's sad, I remember just 15 years ago the metro center Gateshead mall in Newcastle UK was so busy especially before Christmas. Different world then.
I think something with a Whole Foods in it would work. That new luxury residential tower could use it. I think the Harborplace buildings are just tired. They need replacing.
You should do a profile on the travesty that is the "Avenue" reconfiguration of the former Owings Mills Mall.
Why do you call it a travesty?
The Owings Mills Mall was very nearly the pinnacle of enclosed mall development. Sadly, all the qualities that made it exemplary were the ones that hurried it into infeasibility. 5 anchors and dozens of inline specialty stores meant that they were surviving on narrow margins of profitability. When American shopping habits shifted, the bigger the dinosaur, the surer the demise. A newer, lower overhead, more open format was introduced to the area in the form of the Whire Marsh Avenue. It's success spawned the more ambitious and more successful Hunt Valley Avenue. When Owings Mills was to be converted to an "Avenue" model, it seemed eminently viable. What we got was a Kohls/Petsmart/Old Navy style sprawling nothing burger. It has all the character of a bank of airport snack machines.
@@kevenpinder7025 To be honest I think the Foundry Row and Metro Center developments kind of took the juice out of whatever we were going to get at the former mall site. Also, by the time most of the development was completed our retail environment had shifted greatly from when White Marsh and Hunt Valley were redeveloped. I do feel like there could have been some swaps for better retail (like maybe a Nordstrom Rack, free standing mall retailer, or a higher end thrift/consignment shop instead of the Marshalls/Burlington) but we are in an odd space with brick and mortar retail and I think the super Giant, Costco, Homesense, etc. make sense for the area. I also appreciate the additional food options that
, while technically mostly chains,still provide a little more diversity than the usual fast food, Darden-type restaurants that have been a staple in the area for years.
Wow! I can remember going to Pratt and loving it. It is so sad to see a place go down. I've seen a few malls being torn down and reinvented.
Back in like, 2018 I ended my first date with my then girlfriend just hanging out at Harbourplace. Found out I had accdientally busted open my snack of goldfish in my bag while trying to sneak food into the aquarium and had to clean it out. Even back then parts of the place had been walled off for 'renovations', dunno if they ever actually renovated or they were just closing down sections without saying they were.
Nice work 👍
This was indeed a sad video, but it was beautifully shot and the forensic research you put into it is phenomenal! Happy Holidays, Sal!
I grew up in Maryland and lived here all my life
I remember when they built the inner harbor, it was obviously a BIG thing and continued to be for many years
What happened? I’m sure Baltimore being perceived as becoming a crime ridden cesspool didn’t help but more important the world just moved on. It’s like video renting stores , used to be everywhere now they are extinct
Nowadays no reason to get a vcr movie and no reason to go to a mall to buy anything
Don’t need a crystal ball to see that the time is running out for movie theaters
I agree with you for the most part. But I think there will always be a place for movie theaters. The size of the screen and sound system makes it an experience that can't be replicated at home. The inner harbor is going to have to reinvent itself.... somehow.
" I’m sure Baltimore being perceived as becoming a crime ridden cesspool" Becoming? What rock have you been living under? It has always been that way!! Nothing to perceive about it when it is backed up by objective fact and crime reports. If Baltimore was so great it would be booming especially being a satellite city of Washington D.C. but it isn't. Why is that? Oh, because it is a crime ridden cesspool!
God bless public access TV for putting those unintentionally funny shows on the air. Even the audience, all 8 of them, couldn't keep a straight face. (must have been performing in a retirement home!)
Raised in Baltimore the Harbor was the spot in the 80s and 90s. I use to work at the federal Court house.
Excellent video!
Ralph from Baltimore.. Thank you. I worked at the Enoch Pratt Library for 35 years and have many memories of these malls. Been there so many times. what memories! Had tears in my eyes.bThis city is dying in many ways and this is just one of the many visible proofs. I probably won't live to see any renovation. Nice Job and, once again, thank you. I subscribed.
I don't know if been stated but Baltimore based MCB Real Estate is purchasing Harborplace. Rash Field is also going into phase two centering more on outdoor leisure.
This is incredibly sad for the City of Baltimore. One of the few bright spots that could draw tourists into the city was the Inner Harbor. Much less enticing without the dining and shopping options. This is almost as sad as Union Station in Washington, D.C.-- a dead mall that has every reason not to be dead.
I also did a piece on Union Station…hopefully you can catch it!
It would be nice if Harborplace, Inner Harbor gets redeveloped into a late night restaurant, bar, club and cafe area similar to the various Tokyo Izakaya alleyway neighborhoods and Singapore's Boat Quay Historic Area.
In the late 90s, my sleepaway camp in upstate NY took a trip down to Baltimore. We went to an O's game and Fuddruckers at Harbor Place. In 2006, I moved to Baltimore from South FL. I made several visits to Harbor Place, eating at Uno's, CPK, and Cheesecake Factory. Been to the Gallery a few times, mostly just grabbing Starbucks and walking around. Now, I live in Central PA. Perhaps you have plans to do an episode on the York Galleria or have, but haven't edited and released it yet. Keep up the great work Sal!
I appreciate u giving us this walk down memory lane...I remember hanging out at the harbor as a broke preteen & teen...when I got my first job & started making some money it was fun for me to come down there & shop...my favorite store was the body shop in the Pavillion across from the gallery...it's sad to see the area go down but it's understandable...parking downtown is a nightmare & it's just not worth the hassle of dealing with panhandlers or nefarious people to shop or have an evening out down there.