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Really appreciate this review from someone who doesn't have an affiliate link, maybe I'll still try it but I'm not watering at the mouth to do so anymore
Thanks, appreciate the comment. You may like them, they are high quality strings but certainly are not game changing strings like the hype leads people to think
Great honest review. I’m glad you differentiate the strengths and weaknesses of the string based on player profile. I’m an average player seeking the best equipment and string for my game so your opinion of the string is very valuable. Thanks for your review.
Going to give these a try early next week. My daughter uses Solinco Revolution 16L (main) 18 (x) in her PA 98 strung 54-50. Above 90 degrees the Solico will last 3 group session without dropping much tension and offer great control as well. The issue is, these will get stiff and hard on the arm when temp drop below 65 (even after lowering the tension) So I am looking for a softer setup for her, something with 1, pocketing, 2 feel, 3 control and hopefully some decent tension maintenance. I’ll probably come back here in a week with an update. Thanks for the review
@@TK-Tennisso, we are in the process of testing right now. benchmarking it against the Revolution 16L / 18X that tends to be on the stiff side of polys. Also, I need to point out; I accidentally purchased the Toro-Toro and NOT the O-Toro… But, I think it’s even better since I believe the 1.27mm (?) Toro-Toro is stiffer than the O-Toro (based on website description) The X is the Enzo in the thinner gauge. I “Ballpark’d” the tension to 50M, 45X in the PA98 bc I didn’t have a reference point for these strings at the given temp, racquet etc. Daughter’s reaction is that it is very soft, (comfortable) very powerful but at the same time, very manageable. Has great pocketing which is a must for her. The Solinco Rev is still the preferred setup but due to some injuries, the Toroline is a great substitute - for now. Going to keep this for at least another week and, might string up another racquet with the same strings but a bit higher tension. It usually takes us 4-8 sets of stings before we are able to dial in the “sweet spot” for a given brand/gauge etc. Not sure if it matters but the racquet she uses is the 2024 Babolat PA98, with static weight of 330+ overgrip, 5.5PT HL and no clue about the swing weight. Lead in the 10-2 and at 7” on the handle (under the grip)
O-toro are the best steings I've ever used. They add a ton of free power without sacrificing spin or control. I'm a 4.5 player and highschool level coach. I hit hard and my students that hit hard love this string too. We call it our cheat mode. I string it at 60lbs in my Solinco racquets and it's amazing.
I did not find that to be the case whatsoever, but it is all subjective. From my experience, Restring Zero provides the most power for free of any poly I've tried to date and O-Toro was not in that league. I actually think big hitters like it not because it gives additional power for free, but instead allows big hitters to hit-out on their shots more comfortably without sacrificing control
@@TK-Tennis restring zero was my favorite str8ng before o-toro. I'm guessing it also depends on the racquet and how it compliments it. O-toro feels like we're getting 15-20% more power. What racquet and tension do you use?
@@PeterNordstrom-rd3ifI'm with you Peter Nordstrom, this string is pretty amazing. I had my doubts after watching TK 's subjective video. I've been using restring zero for about a year, felt great with spin and power. The only thing I didn't like to much was the feel, it felt to plasticky for me. So I went on my string journey and tried toroline wasabi, caviar, and ether. Ether was the one I liked but was stiff. The other two wasabi and caviar was a little muted for me and reminded me of restring zero. But I had to try the O Toro everybody's been raven about. Even strung my racket at 55 lbs on a Wilson pro staff v13 felt great. It has the spin and power of the restring zero and felt very lively. Going to be interesting to see how long they will last with tension and snapback. It's definitely a great string so far and a must try
I also think it's so racket dependent. I liked the Restring Zero in my Speed Pro 2022 at 47 pounds but just like Wasabi way more due to the power. I'm also a 4.5 level player with strong spinny forehand and weaker backhand. I think I'll give O Toro a try after Toro Toro before making a call what to play with long term... I've been trying strings for the last 9 months...
I love this string and bought a mini reel for my TF raquet. I’m a rec player. I also have played with wasabi, super toro, and toro toro. I like the super toro out of those 3 by the way. I just purchased TruPro Pure Rush. I really their round ghostwire as a cross. Would love to see you review this brand too.
@@TK-Tennis I went 48/46 in my Tecnifibre which I just loaned to a friend while she searches for a new raquet . She really liked them and was coming from NXT. I just had my blade v9 with same tension strung. Compared to my toro toro blade v9 I find a little more plush.
@@tkdhanani Any hint of the metallic sound I mentioned? Going with a lower tension probably helps this string. As much as i did not enjoy the string myself, I may need to try 45-46 lbs to see if it changes my view at all. I'm lacing up Toro Toro soon.
I am a 4.5 with big serve and forehand and I have pre-order a couple sets. I do string for my usta teams, and I think you are right, people 4.0 and under that don't have the cleanest strokes should probably stay away. I was hoping for an 18g, but since more advanced players need more durability, might not happen.
I imagine you may enjoy O-Toro with a big forehand and serve. If you try it, I'd love to know your thoughts after you've had enough time playing with them and comparing it to another string you already know well.
Currently have it in my Vcore pro 97 and loving it. I am able to freely swing and it dips in. Easy to place the ball. I wouldn’t say it’s soft but definitely not stiff(after break in ofc). Strung at: 52/50 Normal setup: Super toro/ HyperG round 53
Good review. I'm keen to try it. As with rackets I want controllable feel and power but something that gives me extra when I put in extra. I feel like a lot of strings and racket that have this something for free technology like the new blade v9 16/19 when I want to really flatten it out and go for it I often get this feeling like the power output has maxed out and it dies and gives me less power than an average clean shot.
Just found your channel and I love the consise thoughtful breakdowns of your string reviews...Subscribed. I'm a rec 3.5 player and I'm currently using Restring Zero and Wasabi X crosses and mains or vis versa and I'm mostly happy with it, but was wondering if you had any other recommendations or current favs that I might try out at my level?
My most common poly recommendation between 3.5 and 4.5 is Kirshbaum Orange. It's a very comfortable soft-poly that has great feel and pop and is incredibly budget friendly. For the price and playability it's really hard to beat, it's worth a try. Thanks for subscribing and I hope I steer you in the right direction, but you won't hurt my feeling if you don't like it...it's all personal preference after all. I did a review on it as well. Solinco Confidential or Hyper G round may be good options to try as well. From my experience and from stringing for all levels, I would think you may like these options better than Zero.
Hey right now im using solinco revolution 17g with 52 tension, and i wanna try restring my racket using O-toro with lower tension, should i go 48 or 49? Btw my racket is blade V8
Interestingly toro toro (which you rated highly) has higher dynamic stiffness than O-toro, maybe they react differently at different string tension? I think it also depends on the racquet+string pairing, and a lot is down to subjective feeling. Thank you for your thorough review as usual!
I love this comment and I think I want to make a video response about human subjectivity versus technical properties of strings, and what matters most. There is a good motorsports/motocross analogy related to measured horsepower and usable horsepower able to be managed by the rider, and what is more important related to outcomes. Thanks for the comment and stay tuned for a video coming soon.
Just watching your video I think your technique is sound but you’re not generating a high swing speed, it looks like a warm-up rally to me…with most toroline strings you need that extra swing speed to activate the string (I think you said it yourself for O-toro, wasabi and supertoro). I would also suggest to go a couple of pounds lower and differentiate main/crosses. I have been trying 48/46 toro toro and wasabi and I would struggle with 50 pounds. My technique is solid and generate a heavier ball with load of topspin. Funnily enough I have just tried wasabi and compared to toro toro I found it more comfortable, incredibly powerful but only when you get over a certain threshold, so powerful that I would be curios to try wasabi main and toro toro crosses.
I have emailed Toroline and they say O-toro is lower powered compared to Wasabi and Toro Toro. Since I prefer low tension around 48/46 pounds, they say O-toro is a better fit for low tension. So this could be a hint, dropping a few pounds to release some power. This string has a much higher resilience peak, so it should come off the string bed very quickly with low dwell time. Did anybody experience that?
Quite different, replied to another person who had the same question. "Zero gives you more power for free by a fair amount, but O-Toro is more predictable. As far as Polys go, they are quite different than more alike in terms of feel and behavior"
@@eujhin24789 No, not really. I played with Confidential for more than a year, and Confidential is a medium-soft more comfortable poly better suited to a wider range of players. Confidential also gives you more pop and comfort for free.
Thanks for the review. I was never interested in these. I've been using the hawk power 17 in the boom pro now for 7 hours. I like using round or 8 sided strings. They are pretty notched up in the sweet spot but still snapping back no problem. They have nice pop, seem pretty lively and responsive. I dont think they are amazing but solid. I may try Big Hitter Silver in here next. I need to buy a second boom pro to put other sets in. 😊
I typically prefer round stings as well. When Hawk Power was released last year, I was hoping it was going to be the best Head string but for several minor reasons I just didn't jell with it. I am reviewing another Head string right now and I suspect you may be very interested in the final outcome.
I did. It could be string tension, weather or other factors...but frankly anyone suggesting this is "Super soft" either misspoke or is flat-out wrong. I could see players thinking it is "Medium soft" as far as poly's go because there are Poly's that are clearly stiffer/firmer but it is not a SOFT poly by any means. Unless there are special circumstances like arm issues, high caliber and pro players never want their strings to feel soft, and O-Toro was developed for high caliber players. O-Toro may be slightly less stiff than Super Toro, but make no mistake it is still a demanding string for most. While string tests are subjective, I have a clear and consistent process when play testing strings. I use the same racquet, same tensions and always play back-to-back with another racquet which gives me a basis to control or lessen variables. Jonas has a great channel and I watch his content with admiration, but in this case and his views about heavy racquets, I wholly disagree with his views.
Blending this O-toro with a round, comfy, powerful and soft(ish) string like Head Lynx Touch or Enso Pro is probably a way to go for rec folks. Maybe even using O-toro in the cross just for a bit of extra bite, control, tension maintenance. Can't wait to get my 3 test sets in the mail, the hype is for reals though, O-toro is out of stock!
I typically follow the rule to place the shaped poly's in the mains since the mains are mostly responsible for biting into the ball. Looking forward to what you think of O-Toro after you try it for a while.
@@TK-Tennis I tried my to compare my fave blend so far of Super Toro mains with Super Smash crosses to O-Toro mains with Super Smash crosses. I didn’t really feel much difference side by side in the same rackets, Yonex RDiS 100 Mid. I strung mains at 50lbs no pre-stretch and crosses at 53lbs 10% pre-stretched. Very little difference, just a tad more spin/power with Super Toro mains and a bit more control with O-Toro mains. O-Toro seems to hold tension better and notches up less, snapping back in place even after 6-7h of hitting. Will try it in tourney settings next, best way to make a decision imo :) Thank you again for your videos, I probably wouldn’t consider trying such blends. I never liked Super Smash and even Super Toro was kind of okay in full bed, nothing special. But their blend certainly a hit, checks most/all boxes!
@@alexsad1000 Good deal, the Super Toro and KO blend was the only blend that I thought was as good as some of my favorite polys in a full bed. As you may have realized from watching, overall I'm disappointed in the Blend experiment I had going for a while and now have been focused on understanding each string specifically without blending them. I spent the last 4 days playing with Toro Toro and that review is coming out very soon and I think it may surprise, it did for me. btw, food for thought. When I was playing with O-Toro I was alternating between it and KO as I was hitting with a regular hitting partner. He does not know I do string reviews and as I was alternating between strings, he stopped me and asked why I was switching. I told him I was just trying out a new string and he said, "whenever you switch to the Orange string your ball has more jump and it's more challenging for me". This was a completely unsolicited moment and I would not have noticed this effect from my side of the net. He said you should stick with the Orange, this is when I knew O-Toro was not giving me any power for free versus KO. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it helps me on my end as well. Let me know how it goes after the tourni
@@TK-Tennis I'm still hopeful for the blends here :) Agreed that it's probably a good idea to try strings in full bed to have better understanding of their performance. I kind of feel like cross string should be smooth and round for better and longer lasting performance. My best 3 blends so far are Super Toro or O-Toro/Super Smash, Wasabi Pro (Wasabi/Wasabi X) and Head Lynx Tour/Head Lynx Touch, all have slick smooth round polys in crosses, shaped mains. Looking forward to your full Toro Toro review. That's probably the one to try first as a full bed, maybe Snapper as well.
They both are certainly spin friendly strings, but in terms of feel they are quite different. I would not suggest they O-Toro is designed to copy Hyper G, Wasabi is more like Toroline's competitor to Hyper G.
great review, love the honesty and the realistic recommendation. also good to know a bit more abt your tennis background! surprised to hear how unforgiving this string is. thought it was more akin to restring zero with some first impressions saying it was softer. how would u compare this to what i’m assuming is your favorite toroline string, super toro ?
Zero gives you more power for free by a fair amount, but O Toro is slight more predictable. As far as Polys go, they are quite different than more alike in terms of feel and behavior
You have a keen 👂. I started on the Gravity Pro for a year and realized it was too unwieldy during point play and developing tennis elbow for 1st time in my life (amazing solid stick otherwise). Then figured the MP would be more fitting and it was, however I wanted to be able the customize the balance and swing weight. There is not a lot of flexibility when customizing a MP or most other 300g racquets, so I decided to go down to the MPL as a more flexible starting platform. This doesn’t always work because many of the light versions have different beam widths, head sizes or other changes to the design.
@TK-Tennis My current setup is a full bed of Super Toro in an Ezone Tour 22’. In your opinion, does O-Toro produce a lower launch angle than Super Toro? If you were blending these two strings, which one would you recommend on the mains?
From my perspective the launch angle were the same on both, no noticeable difference but I did not play back to back with them. My preference would be to use a full bed of Super Toro and not blend them. Both a hexagonal and I I suspect it would play equally the same either way, but that pure speculation.
If you also have very topspin oriented strokes, I can see why you would be using a spin oriented string with that setup. I used Confidential extensively for a period of time and I consider it a Medium-Soft poly, much like O-Toro. They differ a bit in feel with Confidential being slightly more muted (If I remember right) and O-Toro providing more signal/feedback. I also think Confidential has a little more pop for free, but only very slightly. Confidential has a slightly slower snap-back and O-Toro is a little more aggressive, and I'm not suggesting aggressive snapback is better. All in all they are much more similar than different and you may enjoy O-Toro. Thanks for tuning-in
nice review, love the honesty... still plan on trying it though. I've been tinkering with a weighted up 2024 Extreme MPL. The racket is too powerful with my preferred string setup (zero/sync hybrid) but after this review I'm hoping that maybe O-toro might bring the power level down a bit into reasonable territory. Also wondering how you think o-toro would pair with caviar in the crosses?
Funny, I just weighted an Extreme MPL for a friend. I blended Caviar with Super Toro and it was quite nice, but nothing stood out. I preferred a full bed of Super Toro
@@TK-Tennis I have played 2 matches now with the string and I have to agree - your review was very accurate. I agree this is string for high level players. I did notice that metal feeling. Its advertised as the top spin and arm friendly string, but I didn’t notice that it gave additional spin. Spin is good, but I thought this one will be very good. I play a 18x20 string pattern - this string can feel really rewarding, but hits out the sweet spot looses impact - therefore yes its a string for really good players. I am still going to play more. For some reason I cant put it down yet. I played really well with the string and I am adjusting to the string. I need to play some more - but mostly I think you did a really good review and summary. This string is not a string that will give you free anything.
@@jean-pierreuys1554 Did the metallic sound go away for you after a couple of sessions? It's nice to hear you had a similar experience. Something I may have not mentioned in the video, is that slightly off-center hits the string can feel dead, but on-center hits reward you with what you expect, nothing more, nothing less.
@@TK-Tennis You mentioned the off-center hits. I dont hear the metallic sound anymore. I have to say, I cant put the racket down. I have been playing really, really well with it. It's interesting. It's a very consistent result / feeling when you hit it well and control. I dont notice really increased spin, but lots more control. I am waiting to play a match against a very advanced player and want to see how it plays then.
Good honest review, love it. I hope you can find time to review the Sinner/zverev string: Head hawk touch and the Swiatek string: TF razor code white.🙏
Good timing! My son has been using Head Hawk Touch for about a year and that one is on-deck. TF Razor code has been on my radar, but that one may be a while.
I'm a 4.5 player and used Head Hawk Touch 17g for a while on the Head Gravity Tour and the Head Extreme Tour. It's easy on the arm, more of a muted control string. Spin and power is average. Has good touch/feel on the ball. Maintains tension well. I haven't tested the Razor Code White, but I really didn't like the Razor Code Black. I do like Medvedev's new string, Razor Code Soft... It's more for players who have a full swing and generate their own power. It's a control string with nice spin/touch. My favorite string setup right now though is the Toroline K-Pro or the Super Toro. K-Pro has the edge because it's easier on the arm.
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Really appreciate this review from someone who doesn't have an affiliate link, maybe I'll still try it but I'm not watering at the mouth to do so anymore
Thanks, appreciate the comment. You may like them, they are high quality strings but certainly are not game changing strings like the hype leads people to think
Great honest review. I’m glad you differentiate the strengths and weaknesses of the string based on player profile. I’m an average player seeking the best equipment and string for my game so your opinion of the string is very valuable. Thanks for your review.
I've starting to rate them in that manner going forward. You'll notice many of the reviews are not like that. Thanks for the feedback.
Going to give these a try early next week. My daughter uses Solinco Revolution 16L (main) 18 (x) in her PA 98 strung 54-50. Above 90 degrees the Solico will last 3 group session without dropping much tension and offer great control as well. The issue is, these will get stiff and hard on the arm when temp drop below 65 (even after lowering the tension) So I am looking for a softer setup for her, something with 1, pocketing, 2 feel, 3 control and hopefully some decent tension maintenance. I’ll probably come back here in a week with an update. Thanks for the review
👍 Looking forward to hearing the report after she’s had some time with O-Toro
@@TK-Tennisso, we are in the process of testing right now. benchmarking it against the Revolution 16L / 18X that tends to be on the stiff side of polys. Also, I need to point out; I accidentally purchased the Toro-Toro and NOT the O-Toro… But, I think it’s even better since I believe the 1.27mm (?) Toro-Toro is stiffer than the O-Toro (based on website description)
The X is the Enzo in the thinner gauge. I “Ballpark’d” the tension to 50M, 45X in the PA98 bc I didn’t have a reference point for these strings at the given temp, racquet etc. Daughter’s reaction is that it is very soft, (comfortable) very powerful but at the same time, very manageable. Has great pocketing which is a must for her. The Solinco Rev is still the preferred setup but due to some injuries, the Toroline is a great substitute - for now. Going to keep this for at least another week and, might string up another racquet with the same strings but a bit higher tension. It usually takes us 4-8 sets of stings before we are able to dial in the “sweet spot” for a given brand/gauge etc.
Not sure if it matters but the racquet she uses is the 2024 Babolat PA98, with static weight of 330+ overgrip, 5.5PT HL and no clue about the swing weight. Lead in the 10-2 and at 7” on the handle (under the grip)
Absolutely agree with you regarding controlled variables in string testing. Thanks for the video
Thanks, hope it was helpful.
I use restring 0 in the mains and enzo on the crosses, but this setup is also what you put into the strokes.
O-toro are the best steings I've ever used. They add a ton of free power without sacrificing spin or control. I'm a 4.5 player and highschool level coach. I hit hard and my students that hit hard love this string too. We call it our cheat mode. I string it at 60lbs in my Solinco racquets and it's amazing.
I did not find that to be the case whatsoever, but it is all subjective. From my experience, Restring Zero provides the most power for free of any poly I've tried to date and O-Toro was not in that league. I actually think big hitters like it not because it gives additional power for free, but instead allows big hitters to hit-out on their shots more comfortably without sacrificing control
@@TK-Tennis restring zero was my favorite str8ng before o-toro. I'm guessing it also depends on the racquet and how it compliments it. O-toro feels like we're getting 15-20% more power. What racquet and tension do you use?
@@PeterNordstrom-rd3ifI'm with you Peter Nordstrom, this string is pretty amazing. I had my doubts after watching TK 's subjective video. I've been using restring zero for about a year, felt great with spin and power. The only thing I didn't like to much was the feel, it felt to plasticky for me. So I went on my string journey and tried toroline wasabi, caviar, and ether. Ether was the one I liked but was stiff. The other two wasabi and caviar was a little muted for me and reminded me of restring zero. But I had to try the O Toro everybody's been raven about. Even strung my racket at 55 lbs on a Wilson pro staff v13 felt great. It has the spin and power of the restring zero and felt very lively. Going to be interesting to see how long they will last with tension and snapback. It's definitely a great string so far and a must try
ROTFL at the OTT hype
I also think it's so racket dependent. I liked the Restring Zero in my Speed Pro 2022 at 47 pounds but just like Wasabi way more due to the power. I'm also a 4.5 level player with strong spinny forehand and weaker backhand. I think I'll give O Toro a try after Toro Toro before making a call what to play with long term... I've been trying strings for the last 9 months...
I love this string and bought a mini reel for my TF raquet. I’m a rec player. I also have played with wasabi, super toro, and toro toro. I like the super toro out of those 3 by the way.
I just purchased TruPro Pure Rush. I really their round ghostwire as a cross. Would love to see you review this brand too.
What tension? Will love to know if you stick with O Toro for a while. It’s all personal preference after all
@@TK-Tennis I went 48/46 in my Tecnifibre which I just loaned to a friend while she searches for a new raquet . She really liked them and was coming from NXT. I just had my blade v9 with same tension strung. Compared to my toro toro blade v9 I find a little more plush.
@@tkdhanani Any hint of the metallic sound I mentioned? Going with a lower tension probably helps this string. As much as i did not enjoy the string myself, I may need to try 45-46 lbs to see if it changes my view at all. I'm lacing up Toro Toro soon.
I am a 4.5 with big serve and forehand and I have pre-order a couple sets. I do string for my usta teams, and I think you are right, people 4.0 and under that don't have the cleanest strokes should probably stay away. I was hoping for an 18g, but since more advanced players need more durability, might not happen.
I imagine you may enjoy O-Toro with a big forehand and serve. If you try it, I'd love to know your thoughts after you've had enough time playing with them and comparing it to another string you already know well.
Currently have it in my Vcore pro 97 and loving it. I am able to freely swing and it dips in. Easy to place the ball. I wouldn’t say it’s soft but definitely not stiff(after break in ofc).
Strung at: 52/50
Normal setup: Super toro/ HyperG round 53
Thx ... great review!! Could you do a review on Tru Pro's new string PURE RUSH
I'll add it to my list. I saw the review on Tennis Spin and "if" they are accurate it sounds nice
Been using Pure Rush in a hybrid setup with wasabi-x 53m/55x lbs and absolutely love how it hits and feels on my Speed MP 2024
Second this!
Currently use wasabi pro in my Vcore 95 strung at 50. Good combo.
Excellent review - thanks!
Thanks for watching! 👋
Good review. I'm keen to try it.
As with rackets I want controllable feel and power but something that gives me extra when I put in extra. I feel like a lot of strings and racket that have this something for free technology like the new blade v9 16/19 when I want to really flatten it out and go for it I often get this feeling like the power output has maxed out and it dies and gives me less power than an average clean shot.
Awesome, thanks!
My pleasure, thanks for watching.
Just found your channel and I love the consise thoughtful breakdowns of your string reviews...Subscribed. I'm a rec 3.5 player and I'm currently using Restring Zero and Wasabi X crosses and mains or vis versa and I'm mostly happy with it, but was wondering if you had any other recommendations or current favs that I might try out at my level?
My most common poly recommendation between 3.5 and 4.5 is Kirshbaum Orange. It's a very comfortable soft-poly that has great feel and pop and is incredibly budget friendly. For the price and playability it's really hard to beat, it's worth a try. Thanks for subscribing and I hope I steer you in the right direction, but you won't hurt my feeling if you don't like it...it's all personal preference after all. I did a review on it as well.
Solinco Confidential or Hyper G round may be good options to try as well. From my experience and from stringing for all levels, I would think you may like these options better than Zero.
Hey right now im using solinco revolution 17g with 52 tension, and i wanna try restring my racket using O-toro with lower tension, should i go 48 or 49?
Btw my racket is blade V8
Interestingly toro toro (which you rated highly) has higher dynamic stiffness than O-toro, maybe they react differently at different string tension?
I think it also depends on the racquet+string pairing, and a lot is down to subjective feeling.
Thank you for your thorough review as usual!
I love this comment and I think I want to make a video response about human subjectivity versus technical properties of strings, and what matters most. There is a good motorsports/motocross analogy related to measured horsepower and usable horsepower able to be managed by the rider, and what is more important related to outcomes. Thanks for the comment and stay tuned for a video coming soon.
Just watching your video I think your technique is sound but you’re not generating a high swing speed, it looks like a warm-up rally to me…with most toroline strings you need that extra swing speed to activate the string (I think you said it yourself for O-toro, wasabi and supertoro). I would also suggest to go a couple of pounds lower and differentiate main/crosses. I have been trying 48/46 toro toro and wasabi and I would struggle with 50 pounds. My technique is solid and generate a heavier ball with load of topspin.
Funnily enough I have just tried wasabi and compared to toro toro I found it more comfortable, incredibly powerful but only when you get over a certain threshold, so powerful that I would be curios to try wasabi main and toro toro crosses.
I have emailed Toroline and they say O-toro is lower powered compared to Wasabi and Toro Toro. Since I prefer low tension around 48/46 pounds, they say O-toro is a better fit for low tension. So this could be a hint, dropping a few pounds to release some power. This string has a much higher resilience peak, so it should come off the string bed very quickly with low dwell time. Did anybody experience that?
How would you compare this string to the restring zero?
Quite different, replied to another person who had the same question.
"Zero gives you more power for free by a fair amount, but O-Toro is more predictable. As far as Polys go, they are quite different than more alike in terms of feel and behavior"
@@TK-Tennis would you say o-toro is closer to a string like solinco confidential?
@@eujhin24789 No, not really. I played with Confidential for more than a year, and Confidential is a medium-soft more comfortable poly better suited to a wider range of players. Confidential also gives you more pop and comfort for free.
great, thanks again. And I'll guess here the new set of strings is.... toro toro. :) I'm enjoying it more and more
Logical guess, but strike 1. I wanted to get off the Toroline for a set or two before coming back to Toro Toro
Thanks for the review. I was never interested in these. I've been using the hawk power 17 in the boom pro now for 7 hours. I like using round or 8 sided strings. They are pretty notched up in the sweet spot but still snapping back no problem. They have nice pop, seem pretty lively and responsive. I dont think they are amazing but solid. I may try Big Hitter Silver in here next. I need to buy a second boom pro to put other sets in. 😊
I typically prefer round stings as well. When Hawk Power was released last year, I was hoping it was going to be the best Head string but for several minor reasons I just didn't jell with it. I am reviewing another Head string right now and I suspect you may be very interested in the final outcome.
@@TK-Tennis looking forward to that!
Have you seen the Tennis Nerd review of this string from 2 days ago. He's says its super soft! How can yours and hit reviews be so different??
I did. It could be string tension, weather or other factors...but frankly anyone suggesting this is "Super soft" either misspoke or is flat-out wrong. I could see players thinking it is "Medium soft" as far as poly's go because there are Poly's that are clearly stiffer/firmer but it is not a SOFT poly by any means. Unless there are special circumstances like arm issues, high caliber and pro players never want their strings to feel soft, and O-Toro was developed for high caliber players. O-Toro may be slightly less stiff than Super Toro, but make no mistake it is still a demanding string for most.
While string tests are subjective, I have a clear and consistent process when play testing strings. I use the same racquet, same tensions and always play back-to-back with another racquet which gives me a basis to control or lessen variables. Jonas has a great channel and I watch his content with admiration, but in this case and his views about heavy racquets, I wholly disagree with his views.
btw, thanks for commenting and pointing this out.
Blending this O-toro with a round, comfy, powerful and soft(ish) string like Head Lynx Touch or Enso Pro is probably a way to go for rec folks. Maybe even using O-toro in the cross just for a bit of extra bite, control, tension maintenance. Can't wait to get my 3 test sets in the mail, the hype is for reals though, O-toro is out of stock!
I typically follow the rule to place the shaped poly's in the mains since the mains are mostly responsible for biting into the ball. Looking forward to what you think of O-Toro after you try it for a while.
@@TK-Tennis I tried my to compare my fave blend so far of Super Toro mains with Super Smash crosses to O-Toro mains with Super Smash crosses. I didn’t really feel much difference side by side in the same rackets, Yonex RDiS 100 Mid. I strung mains at 50lbs no pre-stretch and crosses at 53lbs 10% pre-stretched. Very little difference, just a tad more spin/power with Super Toro mains and a bit more control with O-Toro mains. O-Toro seems to hold tension better and notches up less, snapping back in place even after 6-7h of hitting. Will try it in tourney settings next, best way to make a decision imo :) Thank you again for your videos, I probably wouldn’t consider trying such blends. I never liked Super Smash and even Super Toro was kind of okay in full bed, nothing special. But their blend certainly a hit, checks most/all boxes!
@@alexsad1000 Good deal, the Super Toro and KO blend was the only blend that I thought was as good as some of my favorite polys in a full bed. As you may have realized from watching, overall I'm disappointed in the Blend experiment I had going for a while and now have been focused on understanding each string specifically without blending them. I spent the last 4 days playing with Toro Toro and that review is coming out very soon and I think it may surprise, it did for me.
btw, food for thought. When I was playing with O-Toro I was alternating between it and KO as I was hitting with a regular hitting partner. He does not know I do string reviews and as I was alternating between strings, he stopped me and asked why I was switching. I told him I was just trying out a new string and he said, "whenever you switch to the Orange string your ball has more jump and it's more challenging for me". This was a completely unsolicited moment and I would not have noticed this effect from my side of the net. He said you should stick with the Orange, this is when I knew O-Toro was not giving me any power for free versus KO.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it helps me on my end as well. Let me know how it goes after the tourni
@@TK-Tennis I'm still hopeful for the blends here :) Agreed that it's probably a good idea to try strings in full bed to have better understanding of their performance. I kind of feel like cross string should be smooth and round for better and longer lasting performance. My best 3 blends so far are Super Toro or O-Toro/Super Smash, Wasabi Pro (Wasabi/Wasabi X) and Head Lynx Tour/Head Lynx Touch, all have slick smooth round polys in crosses, shaped mains. Looking forward to your full Toro Toro review. That's probably the one to try first as a full bed, maybe Snapper as well.
Can you do a review on K-pop strings? Wasabi +caviar
I may not get around to that for a while, however I did play test Super Toro + Cavier already: ua-cam.com/video/tyGniyFXLQI/v-deo.html
Is this supposed to be a copy of hyper g? It could be an option for hyper g users to use if they’re switching brands color wise.
They both are certainly spin friendly strings, but in terms of feel they are quite different. I would not suggest they O-Toro is designed to copy Hyper G, Wasabi is more like Toroline's competitor to Hyper G.
@@TK-Tennissupposedly they are marketing this as a better luxilon alu power and more comfortable than poly tour pro, idk how much that is true… 😅
Are they firm strings?
They measure soft according to TW University, but they play mid to firm.
great review, love the honesty and the realistic recommendation. also good to know a bit more abt your tennis background! surprised to hear how unforgiving this string is. thought it was more akin to restring zero with some first impressions saying it was softer.
how would u compare this to what i’m assuming is your favorite toroline string, super toro ?
Zero gives you more power for free by a fair amount, but O Toro is slight more predictable. As far as Polys go, they are quite different than more alike in terms of feel and behavior
Off topic. Why MPL and not MP ? :)
You have a keen 👂. I started on the Gravity Pro for a year and realized it was too unwieldy during point play and developing tennis elbow for 1st time in my life (amazing solid stick otherwise). Then figured the MP would be more fitting and it was, however I wanted to be able the customize the balance and swing weight. There is not a lot of flexibility when customizing a MP or most other 300g racquets, so I decided to go down to the MPL as a more flexible starting platform. This doesn’t always work because many of the light versions have different beam widths, head sizes or other changes to the design.
@@TheodorosKolokotronis799 for more context I talked about it in this video ua-cam.com/video/SJ8lBbiGfnw/v-deo.htmlsi=n0oYD9JivwIxqNZO
@TK-Tennis My current setup is a full bed of Super Toro in an Ezone Tour 22’. In your opinion, does O-Toro produce a lower launch angle than Super Toro? If you were blending these two strings, which one would you recommend on the mains?
From my perspective the launch angle were the same on both, no noticeable difference but I did not play back to back with them. My preference would be to use a full bed of Super Toro and not blend them. Both a hexagonal and I I suspect it would play equally the same either way, but that pure speculation.
Geeat review. I use a western grip with pure aero rafa. My string of choice is confidential . Please how do you compare confidential and OToro?
If you also have very topspin oriented strokes, I can see why you would be using a spin oriented string with that setup. I used Confidential extensively for a period of time and I consider it a Medium-Soft poly, much like O-Toro. They differ a bit in feel with Confidential being slightly more muted (If I remember right) and O-Toro providing more signal/feedback. I also think Confidential has a little more pop for free, but only very slightly. Confidential has a slightly slower snap-back and O-Toro is a little more aggressive, and I'm not suggesting aggressive snapback is better. All in all they are much more similar than different and you may enjoy O-Toro. Thanks for tuning-in
@@TK-Tennisthank you for a very detailed answer
i need a string that is super similar to alu power. any recommendations?
Many reviewers suggest Restring Sync was designed to be very similar to Alu Power. I mostly agree
So a little like razor soft maybe?
🤷♂️ Can't say, haven't tried Razor Soft yet.
nice review, love the honesty... still plan on trying it though. I've been tinkering with a weighted up 2024 Extreme MPL. The racket is too powerful with my preferred string setup (zero/sync hybrid) but after this review I'm hoping that maybe O-toro might bring the power level down a bit into reasonable territory. Also wondering how you think o-toro would pair with caviar in the crosses?
Funny, I just weighted an Extreme MPL for a friend. I blended Caviar with Super Toro and it was quite nice, but nothing stood out. I preferred a full bed of Super Toro
Just dropped my racket to be strung with these - before I watched this video. I am 4.0. I will see how it feels to me
It's all personal preference and maybe you'll love them, but interested to hear your thoughts after you've had a fair amount of time using them.
@@TK-Tennis I have played 2 matches now with the string and I have to agree - your review was very accurate. I agree this is string for high level players. I did notice that metal feeling. Its advertised as the top spin and arm friendly string, but I didn’t notice that it gave additional spin. Spin is good, but I thought this one will be very good. I play a 18x20 string pattern - this string can feel really rewarding, but hits out the sweet spot looses impact - therefore yes its a string for really good players. I am still going to play more. For some reason I cant put it down yet. I played really well with the string and I am adjusting to the string. I need to play some more - but mostly I think you did a really good review and summary. This string is not a string that will give you free anything.
@@jean-pierreuys1554 Did the metallic sound go away for you after a couple of sessions? It's nice to hear you had a similar experience. Something I may have not mentioned in the video, is that slightly off-center hits the string can feel dead, but on-center hits reward you with what you expect, nothing more, nothing less.
@@TK-Tennis You mentioned the off-center hits. I dont hear the metallic sound anymore. I have to say, I cant put the racket down. I have been playing really, really well with it. It's interesting. It's a very consistent result / feeling when you hit it well and control. I dont notice really increased spin, but lots more control. I am waiting to play a match against a very advanced player and want to see how it plays then.
@@jean-pierreuys1554 interesting and good info. What was your prior go-to string?
Super toro and wasabi are there best strings for me at least
IMO both a really great strings for a pretty wide range of players.
Good honest review, love it. I hope you can find time to review the Sinner/zverev string: Head hawk touch and the Swiatek string: TF razor code white.🙏
Good timing! My son has been using Head Hawk Touch for about a year and that one is on-deck. TF Razor code has been on my radar, but that one may be a while.
I'm a 4.5 player and used Head Hawk Touch 17g for a while on the Head Gravity Tour and the Head Extreme Tour. It's easy on the arm, more of a muted control string. Spin and power is average. Has good touch/feel on the ball. Maintains tension well.
I haven't tested the Razor Code White, but I really didn't like the Razor Code Black.
I do like Medvedev's new string, Razor Code Soft... It's more for players who have a full swing and generate their own power. It's a control string with nice spin/touch.
My favorite string setup right now though is the Toroline K-Pro or the Super Toro. K-Pro has the edge because it's easier on the arm.