What people often don't realize is that there's 3 Major Vanilla Types: Planifolia: Madagascar, Uganda, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea Tahitensis: Tahiti, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Hawaiian, Ecuador Pompona: Mexico Each with their own base characteristic affected by each region's conditions. You can't get fair comparison across these 3 because it's like comparing Apple to Pear to Quince. Yes they all are Crunchy Fruits, however there's distinction between the 3.
This is really interesting. Its one thing to read about different vanillas, but its great to have a video hearing and seeing real reactions to the various vanilla beans.
The best vanilla beans ive ever smelled were a madagascar pompona hybrid bean grow in Madagascar. It smelled amazingly complex very rich and musky. I think its worth mentioning that with grade A beans we can smell the flavors better and therefore make a better assessment of what that type of bean will produce i terms of an extracts flavor profile. That being said ive always used grade A beans but im really starting to prefer grade B just because the moisture is much lower which means you will get more vanilla beans and more flavor compounds per pound of beans. The only issue being that its harder to judge the quality of the beans flavor by the smell when youre dealing with grade B beans.
Smelling them out of the bag give you a pretty good idea with grad A or B vanilla beans even though B's are drier. But yes Grade B are much better for extract as you do get more vanilla bean per pound. When I do comparisons I use the Grade A so I can see the and feel them little better.
In addition to taking into account the region from where the beans originate, we also need to take into consideration the species of beans; Planifolia, tahitensis, and Pompona all of which you have represented here, but one must also take into consideration the way in which the pods were cured. Were they cured in the bourbon method which uses boiling water and steaming, or the Mexican method in which the sun is used to cure the pods. All of these impact the taste, size, and oil content, etc. Even though they are all vanilla beans, it's still like comparing apples with oranges when there are so many different variations in the species and curing methods themselves.
There so many variations so were do you start? I had to ask my self this when I started all this. I started the blind taste testings for a couple of seasons people were being blinded by others opinions. People can be influenced in to thinking in one direction vs the other and not giving a true honest opinion. When I went into the evaluation of the vanilla beans I purposely did not want to know any information about them at all. This gives a person a more open and clearer mind in the evaluation and not influenced by others. Some think paying $45 a once for vanilla beans they are getting a superior flavored vanilla. None of it matters if it does not taste good. Plus does it really matter when using it in baking. So the question always arises with vanilla beans have the best flavor. No one can really answer this question as everyone's taste buds are different. When the evaluation is done then you can go back and compare notes against the origins, methods and standard flavor charts. It is not comparing apples to oranges, it is comparing apples to apples as the same thing applies origins, regions, species, weather, fertilizers and growing methods all effect the flavors. I have done a lot of blind taste testings and with people who know there stuff including my shelf and It is always a learning experience and usually a shock on 50% of the results. The vanilla in this video has been tested by over 100 people and the results are never the same but will give a great over all ranking.
Thank you so much for this presentation! Oh this preliminary smell test is exactly what I did with 6 different beans as well. My family (ages 5-66) had so much fun. Like you, the most popular aroma was the Ugandan. 🙃 Keep up the good work. I look forward to each video. Your efforts do not go unnoticed! 👍
Thank you for the kind words I do appreciate it. Yeah everyone I had done this with in the past had fun with it. Who knew you could have fun doing something like this.
It's like you read my mind. I was wondering the difference and wanted to try them all too. Looking forward to the results. Curious if the Uganda flavor stays in the final results.
I'm extracting all the information my brain can hold from all these clips. Priceless reaction on the comment at 34:07 🤣 Thank you very much for sharing the knowledge
Love ❤️ this video. You 2 really are funny 😁 with each other, cutting up 😂. Nice to know how all those beans are. I want to try a couple that ur lovely daughter liked. Thanks 😊❤❤❤👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Shane, your passion for excellence is inspiring! Thank you!! I'm a total newbie. I know you give a rough chop to the beans a little ways in to your extract process... so I have 2 questions since you are comparing these whole beans now: 1. Have you in the past done a study on whole beans (grade A or B) in comparison to "rough cut" beans? *My understanding is that rough cut are drier, but in reality you get m o r e beans per ounce - hence more vanllian & other comounds and less water per ounce. 2. Can you comment on this based on your 30+ years of experience? Im a newbie. Thank you again!!! **Maybe another blind taste test in the horizon?¿? 🙃
I don't believe in the grade A or B thing anymore as there is no standard for it in the industry. Each company distributing vanilla beans has there own grading standard and they can change it when ever they want. It is hard pressed to find a written standard from each company on it. They give suggestions on ranges but nothing in stone. Grad B beans use to be cheaper and less water content % but this is not the case anymore. But yes on the water % being lower and having lighter bean your having to add more vanilla beans to make up for the water loss. Does this mean more flavors? yes The FDA gives standard is up 25% water content anything above that you have to add more vanilla beans to compensate for the extra water also. Not everyone reads that part. Basically the FDA standard already compensates for flavors in both directions of water %. As I am learning new things everyday I am evolving with new processes and technique's. I dont do a rough chop any more but I do split them in half and use a vacuum seal on the jars. If I am looking for a cleaner look of finished extract i use whole beans and vacuum seal the jars. The vacuum sealing of the jars makes a huge difference on speed and how much flavors are extracted.
I was also surprised by the Ugandan. I got chocolate notes from it and was very impressed. I smelled a strong cherry smell from the Ecuadorian beans which I didn’t love.
I want to buy a bunch of Ugandan beans right now just based off the smell. But I know the smell does not dictate with the flavor will be. I really hope they turn out good because those beans will save me a ton of labor.
@@ClementFamilyFarms I did just that. I probably should have waited until my first batch was finished before I did but I didn’t want to wait that long. I have some in vodka as well as a bourbon and tequila. I think the Ugandan in bourbon may be my best blend yet.
I was thinking the same it’s hard to smell different aromas you need to cleans your nose pallet like with coffee beans , I know I get sensory overload easy 😁
Does the majority of the flavor come from the pod, or the seeds? VERY VERY curious about the Pampanoa - not sure if bigger is better. It would be a lot less work if those turn out to be as good as Madagascar! LOVE your videos on vanilla extract! THANK YOU!!!
I have another video coming out in the next couple of days that will show were the oils are at. The flavoring is all in the flesh of the pods. The seeds are hard and don't retain any flavor other than the light oils on the out side of them but it is no much.
Best way to taste test Vanilla! You have a couple really good options. 1. teaspoon of sugar and a couple drops vanilla extract. Place on tongue and let it dissolve. 2. Whipped cream works really well also. Take a small amount of the whipped cream and a few drops and mix. 3. Cream or half and half can be used with some vanilla in it. 4. Frosting just make up a small amount of flavorless frosting and add a few drops and taste it. Frosting is a really good way to taste test as this is were most people really see the difference in their baking.
Oh I can't wait. This makes me want to do it as well because i've only had two kinds thus far, and omg I dont know if I could use beans that remind me of shit! 😂. I appreciate her unbridled candor!
I cut out some really funny parts because I cant put to much cuss words in. I love her! I cant wait either i am excited to see how some of these ones come out. I just have this feeling they all are going to be really similar. As of right now I hope the Ugandan beans have great flavor when done because those beans will save me so much time in labor.
It is all on how you look at it. Do I practice magic witchcraft No! Do I believe people can be evil Yes. Do I like things that creep people out OH heck yeah. Why because it makes people laugh, smile and have fun.
What people often don't realize is that there's 3 Major Vanilla Types:
Planifolia: Madagascar, Uganda, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea
Tahitensis: Tahiti, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Hawaiian, Ecuador
Pompona: Mexico
Each with their own base characteristic affected by each region's conditions.
You can't get fair comparison across these 3 because it's like comparing Apple to Pear to Quince. Yes they all are Crunchy Fruits, however there's distinction between the 3.
For a fragrance tet, you need to "clense your nose like a palate " with coffee beans.
The Ugandan and Sri Lanka beans are on sale right now. Picked up quarter pound of each. Thanks so much for your review.
Wonderful!
I've used ugandan and theyre amazing!....smell, plumpness, seeds. beautiful!
This is really interesting. Its one thing to read about different vanillas, but its great to have a video hearing and seeing real reactions to the various vanilla beans.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is very interesting. Just getting into the extract process and I was overwhelmed with the options, hope this leads to a final answer.
I’m so excited about this information! Thanks for uploading and your daughter is delightful!❤
The best vanilla beans ive ever smelled were a madagascar pompona hybrid bean grow in Madagascar. It smelled amazingly complex very rich and musky. I think its worth mentioning that with grade A beans we can smell the flavors better and therefore make a better assessment of what that type of bean will produce i terms of an extracts flavor profile. That being said ive always used grade A beans but im really starting to prefer grade B just because the moisture is much lower which means you will get more vanilla beans and more flavor compounds per pound of beans. The only issue being that its harder to judge the quality of the beans flavor by the smell when youre dealing with grade B beans.
Smelling them out of the bag give you a pretty good idea with grad A or B vanilla beans even though B's are drier. But yes Grade B are much better for extract as you do get more vanilla bean per pound. When I do comparisons I use the Grade A so I can see the and feel them little better.
Very good information, I've learned a lot from your videos. I Iike how your daughter doesn't mince her words and gives her honest opinion .
This was really interesting to watch and i'm looking forward to your continued investigation into all of these beans.
In addition to taking into account the region from where the beans originate, we also need to take into consideration the species of beans; Planifolia, tahitensis, and Pompona all of which you have represented here, but one must also take into consideration the way in which the pods were cured.
Were they cured in the bourbon method which uses boiling water and steaming, or the Mexican method in which the sun is used to cure the pods.
All of these impact the taste, size, and oil content, etc. Even though they are all vanilla beans, it's still like comparing apples with oranges when there are so many different variations in the species and curing methods themselves.
There so many variations so were do you start? I had to ask my self this when I started all this.
I started the blind taste testings for a couple of seasons people were being blinded by others opinions. People can be influenced in to thinking in one direction vs the other and not giving a true honest opinion. When I went into the evaluation of the vanilla beans I purposely did not want to know any information about them at all. This gives a person a more open and clearer mind in the evaluation and not influenced by others. Some think paying $45 a once for vanilla beans they are getting a superior flavored vanilla. None of it matters if it does not taste good. Plus does it really matter when using it in baking. So the question always arises with vanilla beans have the best flavor. No one can really answer this question as everyone's taste buds are different. When the evaluation is done then you can go back and compare notes against the origins, methods and standard flavor charts.
It is not comparing apples to oranges, it is comparing apples to apples as the same thing applies origins, regions, species, weather, fertilizers and growing methods all effect the flavors.
I have done a lot of blind taste testings and with people who know there stuff including my shelf and It is always a learning experience and usually a shock on 50% of the results.
The vanilla in this video has been tested by over 100 people and the results are never the same but will give a great over all ranking.
Thank you so much for this presentation!
Oh this preliminary smell test is exactly what I did with 6 different beans as well.
My family (ages 5-66) had so much fun.
Like you, the most popular aroma was the Ugandan. 🙃
Keep up the good work. I look forward to each video. Your efforts do not go unnoticed! 👍
Thank you for the kind words I do appreciate it. Yeah everyone I had done this with in the past had fun with it. Who knew you could have fun doing something like this.
Very interesting! I'm pretty new at this and great learning tool. Can't wait for the taste test. Thanks!
It's like you read my mind. I was wondering the difference and wanted to try them all too. Looking forward to the results. Curious if the Uganda flavor stays in the final results.
Video starts @21:27 , Play in 1.5 speed. You're welcome
I'm extracting all the information my brain can hold from all these clips.
Priceless reaction on the comment at 34:07 🤣
Thank you very much for sharing the knowledge
Love ❤️ this video. You 2 really are funny 😁 with each other, cutting up 😂. Nice to know how all those beans are. I want to try a couple that ur lovely daughter liked. Thanks 😊❤❤❤👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks so much! 😊I love my daughter and she can dish it out and love that about her.
Thank you so much.
I have bought the new guinea before and thought smelled amazing. Tahi does smell like artificial vanilla.
Shane, your passion for excellence is inspiring!
Thank you!!
I'm a total newbie.
I know you give a rough chop to the beans a little ways in to your extract process... so I have 2 questions since you are comparing these whole beans now:
1.
Have you in the past done a study on whole beans (grade A or B) in comparison to "rough cut" beans?
*My understanding is that rough cut are drier, but in reality you get m o r e beans per ounce - hence more vanllian & other comounds and less water per ounce.
2.
Can you comment on this based on your 30+ years of experience?
Im a newbie.
Thank you again!!!
**Maybe another blind taste test in the horizon?¿? 🙃
I don't believe in the grade A or B thing anymore as there is no standard for it in the industry. Each company distributing vanilla beans has there own grading standard and they can change it when ever they want. It is hard pressed to find a written standard from each company on it. They give suggestions on ranges but nothing in stone.
Grad B beans use to be cheaper and less water content % but this is not the case anymore.
But yes on the water % being lower and having lighter bean your having to add more vanilla beans to make up for the water loss. Does this mean more flavors? yes
The FDA gives standard is up 25% water content anything above that you have to add more vanilla beans to compensate for the extra water also. Not everyone reads that part.
Basically the FDA standard already compensates for flavors in both directions of water %.
As I am learning new things everyday I am evolving with new processes and technique's. I dont do a rough chop any more but I do split them in half and use a vacuum seal on the jars. If I am looking for a cleaner look of finished extract i use whole beans and vacuum seal the jars. The vacuum sealing of the jars makes a huge difference on speed and how much flavors are extracted.
Thank you. 👍
I think I want to try some of the Uganda beans, your daughter really liked them and I also bake.
I hope they are in top of the list when it comes to tasting.
I always enjoy your information. I took notes. Thank you
I was also surprised by the Ugandan. I got chocolate notes from it and was very impressed. I smelled a strong cherry smell from the Ecuadorian beans which I didn’t love.
I want to buy a bunch of Ugandan beans right now just based off the smell. But I know the smell does not dictate with the flavor will be. I really hope they turn out good because those beans will save me a ton of labor.
@@ClementFamilyFarms I did just that. I probably should have waited until my first batch was finished before I did but I didn’t want to wait that long. I have some in vodka as well as a bourbon and tequila. I think the Ugandan in bourbon may be my best blend yet.
I was thinking the same it’s hard to smell different aromas you need to cleans your nose pallet like with coffee beans , I know I get sensory overload easy 😁
Another great video! Love your stuff
Thank you
Does the majority of the flavor come from the pod, or the seeds? VERY VERY curious about the Pampanoa - not sure if bigger is better. It would be a lot less work if those turn out to be as good as Madagascar! LOVE your videos on vanilla extract! THANK YOU!!!
I have another video coming out in the next couple of days that will show were the oils are at. The flavoring is all in the flesh of the pods. The seeds are hard and don't retain any flavor other than the light oils on the out side of them but it is no much.
@@ClementFamilyFarms Wow - I have been so wrong about so much until I started listening to you! Thanks again!
What is the best way to taste vanilla besides baking with it, to get the best flavor profile for customers or friends and family.
Best way to taste test Vanilla!
You have a couple really good options.
1. teaspoon of sugar and a couple drops vanilla extract. Place on tongue and let it dissolve.
2. Whipped cream works really well also. Take a small amount of the whipped cream and a few drops and mix.
3. Cream or half and half can be used with some vanilla in it.
4. Frosting just make up a small amount of flavorless frosting and add a few drops and taste it. Frosting is a really good way to taste test as this is were most people really see the difference in their baking.
Same with jalapeños. The bigger ones are always bland and smaller ones hotter.
It is kinda like horses also Draft horses are the gentle giants and pony's are a little spicy.
Oh I can't wait. This makes me want to do it as well because i've only had two kinds thus far, and omg I dont know if I could use beans that remind me of shit! 😂. I appreciate her unbridled candor!
I cut out some really funny parts because I cant put to much cuss words in. I love her!
I cant wait either i am excited to see how some of these ones come out. I just have this feeling they all are going to be really similar. As of right now I hope the Ugandan beans have great flavor when done because those beans will save me so much time in labor.
@@ClementFamilyFarms yes. i am really curious about flavor.
The internet says the belief is the Pompano believed to be the original vanilla bean.
The masking tape has a smell.
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Do you believe in evil spirits?
It is all on how you look at it.
Do I practice magic witchcraft No!
Do I believe people can be evil Yes.
Do I like things that creep people out OH heck yeah.
Why because it makes people laugh, smile and have fun.