"By the Fire We Carry": Cherokee Author Rebecca Nagle on the Ongoing Fight for Tribal Sovereignty

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  • Опубліковано 5 лис 2024

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  • @artstrology
    @artstrology Місяць тому +54

    The Cherokee should have a seat in the house. So should several others. We should be proactively working to return the Black Hills, and dismantling the gross rock formation known as "Mt Rushmore". Those are tangible doable things. And they are correct. There is much to do.

    • @bobsanborn2395
      @bobsanborn2395 Місяць тому +3

      Right-On, Art

    • @nighthawk6281
      @nighthawk6281 Місяць тому +1

      That’s dumb, no group should have special privileges

    • @artstrology
      @artstrology Місяць тому +4

      @@nighthawk6281 A sovereign Nation that was promised a seat by the President when they signed a treaty. We call it the highest law of the land, not special treatment.

    • @tofuluvrr837
      @tofuluvrr837 Місяць тому

      Why?

    • @tofuluvrr837
      @tofuluvrr837 Місяць тому

      ​@artstrology yeah, a non-voting seat. A vanity seat. And it was just Cherokee, a small fraction of all the Native Americans tribes that operated and fought with one another throughout American history.

  • @pamriding2351
    @pamriding2351 Місяць тому +16

    I loved this guest she was so informative.

  • @fannys941
    @fannys941 Місяць тому +29

    Indigenous people need their rights back!

    • @jimhere1
      @jimhere1 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@mattdobbs-dr2rtahh look the face of Amerikkka shows itself

    • @nighthawk6281
      @nighthawk6281 Місяць тому

      They have rights, what they want are reparations

    • @mattdobbs-dr2rt
      @mattdobbs-dr2rt Місяць тому

      @@nighthawk6281 "they" have blonde and red hair now 🤔

    • @mattdobbs-dr2rt
      @mattdobbs-dr2rt Місяць тому

      @@fannys941 what about other nations that stole from each other? Once you try to correct the past there is no end in sight

    • @ridge7524
      @ridge7524 Місяць тому

      True
      🗽💙

  • @marlenefunk2137
    @marlenefunk2137 Місяць тому +11

    I lived in the U.S. 68 years and have now been retired in South American 13 years. The area in which I live is 72% indigenous. Outside of the towns and cities, you find all farms. We have fresh food every day, no pollution and great weather. Although we have a normally elected government, the native indigenous run this country. The government makes the laws. If the indigenous do not agree, the whole country comes to a standstill ... THE WHOLE COUNTRY. This country includes in its Constitution the rights of the land and the animals. I am proud to say that I have both Cree and Cherokee blood. I feel sure that the U.S. would be much better today with the indigenous ruling the U.S.. I see it around me every day. I live in a stress free environment where people still know the meaning of respect. North America will never be all that it could be because it needs the people who really care about the land. Not winning wars.

    • @ricodelavega4511
      @ricodelavega4511 Місяць тому +5

      sounds ideal, and truly american. The US and Canada chose to eliminate as much as possible the indigenous. No other country in the Americas has 70% or higher fully european population like US & Canada. Argentina is 50% mestizo, and Brazil too. While these other countries in latin america repressed the indigenous, large sectors of their societies ultimately mixed with the indigenous.

    • @KootFloris
      @KootFloris Місяць тому +2

      Which country, for it surely ain't all Latin American countries. In some genocide is still daily reality. And yes they are much better for nature, and everyone's health. As another commenter said: "The Cherokee should have a seat in the house. So should several others." That would be a great start.

  • @MrSevillian
    @MrSevillian Місяць тому +12

    Brilliant exposition by the author.

  • @Gemini19844
    @Gemini19844 Місяць тому +15

    This is so great to see Cherokee Nation represented on my favorite new program!!

  • @Davidpath9127
    @Davidpath9127 Місяць тому +42

    indigenous people should be in charge of Natural resources.

    • @luperamos7307
      @luperamos7307 Місяць тому +1

      And where are they? Does this lady look Indian to you?

    • @Davidpath9127
      @Davidpath9127 Місяць тому +3

      @@luperamos7307 they are in their land that millions from all over the world are sharing and enjoying now.

    • @craigbrowning9448
      @craigbrowning9448 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@luperamos7307Certainly she's short the Headband and the Feather and the "Cigar Store" Indian speak.

    • @ArleeStarr
      @ArleeStarr Місяць тому +2

      Some, like the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara tribes, are getting rich from pumping oil on their reservations. They might agree.

    • @luperamos7307
      @luperamos7307 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Davidpath9127But this lady is clearly not Indian. And when you get to many reservations it's the same thing.

  • @SylvieTripier-j8s
    @SylvieTripier-j8s Місяць тому +11

    Rebecca Nagle is a wonderful And fine Eagle

  • @Davidpath9127
    @Davidpath9127 Місяць тому +24

    Indigenous people should be the one who has more authority in the government instead of the lobbies who are serving their ethnical countries of origine.

  • @moodygirl609
    @moodygirl609 Місяць тому +7

    I love joy harjo's poetry and music. Will read this book by this very informed author.

  • @oa5167
    @oa5167 Місяць тому +3

    This needs to be presented to all POLITICAL ASSEMBLIES and reminded of "deporting, collecting, immigrants, and any person of certain skin colors" to stop repeating these atrocities.

  • @Davidpath9127
    @Davidpath9127 Місяць тому +28

    indigenous people should have more power in the government.

    • @FM-ln2sb
      @FM-ln2sb Місяць тому +3

      Amazing that Tim Walz partly destroyed Tribal 'sovereignty' in MN. The Line 3, Enbridge's largest ever project and part of North America's longest pipeline,

    • @kx7500
      @kx7500 Місяць тому

      We shouldn’t have a government

    • @ArleeStarr
      @ArleeStarr Місяць тому

      @@FM-ln2sb The entire Great Lakes system is threatened by Enbridge's Line 5.
      Do the Harris Walz. One step forward, two steps back, spin in place until the AIPAC DJ stops the music.
      I know you already agreed, but here it is again...
      Vote against genocide and fascism!
      Stein/Ware 2024! Green Party for all other elected offices 2024!

    • @mar25947
      @mar25947 Місяць тому

      @@kx7500 I like this, we should self govern but still support each other whereever possible.

    • @nighthawk6281
      @nighthawk6281 Місяць тому

      1 person 1 vote, no special privileges to any group.

  • @ellanina801
    @ellanina801 Місяць тому +8

    On my wishlist. ✅

  • @emiliobello2538
    @emiliobello2538 Місяць тому +24

    If we get a new documentary about indigenous people
    This footage should be used

    • @luperamos7307
      @luperamos7307 Місяць тому +1

      Why? She is not even Indian. Latin Americans would laugh at this. In Mexico she would be white.

    • @jimhere1
      @jimhere1 Місяць тому

      ​@@luperamos7307she is. And who are you?

    • @luperamos7307
      @luperamos7307 Місяць тому

      @@jimhere1 She is? I am Mexican. We are generally mestizo, which means a mix of European and indigenous. But we also have indigenous people that are real indigenous. This lady is less native than the standard Mexican.

  • @robertskolimowski7049
    @robertskolimowski7049 Місяць тому +4

    Fantastic guest, the tribes are so neglected😞 🕊✌️🙏

  • @carsi7282
    @carsi7282 Місяць тому +2

    Many Native people had a field day with the CNN 'Something Else' meme 4 years ago. Very funny humour on a subject that is not funny at all. So glad Ms Nagle brought that up. Natives claims, rights and history must be front and center. I find it frustrating that the two-party system candidates only talk about reclaiming land for a group in west asia but ignore the Indigenous issues here. The Green party with Dr. Jill Stein and Dr. Butch Ware are the only party that address acknowledgement, reconciliation and reparations for Native issues.

  • @paulgibby6932
    @paulgibby6932 Місяць тому +5

    Great to see how the g*ocide (that continues) has brought about some reflection on our own indigenous peoples' injustice. This woman also has a lovely smile and a lot of information and history to share. Thanks for this show.

    • @luperamos7307
      @luperamos7307 Місяць тому

      Does she look indigenous to you?.

  • @andrearenee7845
    @andrearenee7845 Місяць тому

    So important. Happening in the GAZA, and it's stages it will go thru ... In this our democracy was born out of these stories. Thank you...

  • @fuckbankers
    @fuckbankers Місяць тому +6

    Remember Wounded Knee.

  • @dimatadore
    @dimatadore Місяць тому +3

    Native sovereignty is so important

    • @luperamos7307
      @luperamos7307 Місяць тому

      Does this woman look native to you?

  • @rattle-can-resto5893
    @rattle-can-resto5893 Місяць тому +7

    I need a beautiful Lakota woman. I’m a lonely Lakota warrior.

  • @greatestone4eva
    @greatestone4eva Місяць тому +5

    bless up

  • @4estdweller4ever
    @4estdweller4ever Місяць тому

    In my senior year in high school I had an English teacher, Mr Ashcroft, who inspired me for the rest of my life. He said do not believe your text books. They are biased. Go out and do your own research and go to the source. He cited “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” as an example and I went right out and read it. I’ve kept that book for over 50 years. He helped me realize there is so much untruth in the world and you have to be very careful what you believe to be true. If what you thought was true turns out to be wrong be ready to pivot. Sometimes the truth is uncomfortable to hear when it doesn’t align with beliefs that we hold dear but so is wearing concrete boots and learning nothing new.

  • @FrostRare
    @FrostRare Місяць тому +1

    What a radiant woman

  • @LarryCohen188
    @LarryCohen188 Місяць тому +2

    Can you please compile the list of all the authors and their books who have attended democracy now on your website.

  • @rujackswing618
    @rujackswing618 Місяць тому +3

    Can you believe after all this history.. & all the Military Colleges Connected to the White House... America, is Supplying the Equipment to Repeat this History Over & Over Again After 2020 in Palestine... Have we Learned Nothing.. We Must Pay for Our Sins.. Love Self, Protect Life, Peace..!!!

  • @Natasha_mam
    @Natasha_mam Місяць тому

    Good 👍

  • @dl-zf9dj
    @dl-zf9dj Місяць тому +3

  • @judsonmeraw6294
    @judsonmeraw6294 Місяць тому

    We were all indigenous, even Europeans.

  • @Heavilymoderated
    @Heavilymoderated Місяць тому +3

    It’s just going to be a sht show until we can get the so called authority in this country and around the world to a point where they can admit when they’re wrong, and try to learn from it. Instead, it’s more about what they can get away with.

  • @karenplante2593
    @karenplante2593 Місяць тому

    The US covered-upped the TRUTH OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRUE HISTORY!
    Ie: Trail of Tears
    Wounded Knee
    And so on...

  • @LeeHunt-mu9nb
    @LeeHunt-mu9nb Місяць тому +4

    Wasn't the Cherokee part of the Five Civilized Tribes?

  • @eduvisionary
    @eduvisionary Місяць тому

    Nagle's description of how Federal Indian law informs current legal policy towards immigrants, and others held under anti-terrorism laws, etc...I was struck by the similarity with Israel occupation in Palestine. No wonder the US empire has no compunction in arming and funding the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in flagrant defiance of international law. It's simply a continued application of US practices that have lasted for centuries.

  • @FM-ln2sb
    @FM-ln2sb Місяць тому +4

    Amazing that Tim Walz partly destroyed Tribal 'sovereignty' in MN. The Line 3, Enbridge's largest ever project and part of North America's longest pipeline, zigzags nearly 350 miles across Minnesota and through more than 200 bodies of water. Construction on the project, a rerouting and expansion of an old pipeline, began last December.

    • @ricodelavega4511
      @ricodelavega4511 Місяць тому +2

      did not know this. Thank you

    • @Evolved9
      @Evolved9 Місяць тому +1

      LIES ABOUT Walz, shame on U😤

    • @Evolved9
      @Evolved9 Місяць тому +2

      It was the Oil company that broke the law & continue with construction which should have been halted. It is on sovereign native land. Walz had nothing to do with this. Fool

  • @JC-qg5bl
    @JC-qg5bl 23 дні тому

    I just realized that throughout my education in the United States I grew up in California but regardless still I learned the Pledge of allegiance and learned what a wonderful amazing country and nation and people the United States were from an early age and continuously on and by the time the school curriculum introduced education of us history showing brief glimpses of names referencing Indian policy or treaties or trail tears be context that was given was brief and now I realize very intentionally crafted to be delivered in such a way that a young kid in elementary school isn't going to raise his hand and say wait a minute this sounds like something really bad we did to them and maybe it is but then by the time I got to world history where we learned about World War Two such an amazing emphasis was placed on learning about the Nazis and the Holocaust and there was such a universal feeling at that time for me that everyone in the world knew that Nazis were bad guys the Holocaust was the worst thing humanity had ever done and everybody collectively knew that like there was good and evil and we all saw it the Nazis did was evil because they were evil people doing evil stuff and then it's crazy like being 35 almost in having taken the time to watch democracy now and read and go back to school and learn for myself what actually happened and still I'm learning more and more as brave wonderful beautiful people like we are hearing about here have bought to keep the fire alive so that one day here I am what 400 years later almost half a century someone like me so insignificant and simple as me can have the opportunity to learn the truth and put it all together that there has been a public campaign of propaganda propagated by the US and other world governments to polarize people's opinion of good and evil in a controlled Way that caused me to dismiss what the US did Has done and is continuing to do like she said with marginalized people so I asked myself if I was so upset learning about the Holocaust and if everyone else was so upset like I learned about from the Holocaust Then why are we not upset about the US why are we not all collectively coming together and saying this is what we did this is what we've been doing and we're not going to do it anymore because this is ridiculous my brain cannot comprehend why this is still going on like how I was taught to believe that we were the good people that got rid of that evil and that's still going on I mean I have a freaking computer in my hands that like any person other than the people of the last 2050 years would look at my little computer in my hand and say it was capable of the feats of a god We literally have the tools and we literally have the resources too do something right now the government's in place many people behind them in these policies on their last legs the Millennia of hate and evil propagated by the people who have assured the public that they were good to cover their greed It's over let's fight against the lies together

  • @LandAirWaterBUREAU
    @LandAirWaterBUREAU Місяць тому +1

    Cherokee is a misnomer. A signatory "Indian". We are not " signatory Indians ". We did not, and do not call ourselves that. Please stop the Genocide.

  • @stevenhanson6057
    @stevenhanson6057 Місяць тому

    “What’s the matter with that one?”
    “Flat tire.” “What about that one?”
    “I think it ran out of gas.”

  • @Rt_Ryan91
    @Rt_Ryan91 Місяць тому +1

    Im Irish and always remember my granddad mr Ryan, little king in Gaelic…I always recall his books on American Indians, and he left behind many of them. In Ireland today we face discrimination, from our own government and their pals in the EU parliament. We are having migrants flooded into our country and given free homes and money and food and at the same time an average Irish family can’t afford a home and many Irish are living on the streets. Just recently kids school book was published with a cartoon of the stereotypical Irish family in a cottage and not wanting to mix with other cultures, which is bs and it has caused quite a stir and nobody knows who came up with the cartoon. They’re trying to erode our country and condition children to dislike their own heritage. Very strange times, I believe it was an Indian tribe that coined this behaviour as Wetiko, the mind virus.

  • @lbrown7164
    @lbrown7164 Місяць тому +2

    It will happen again see Palestine

  • @kennethmorrison7689
    @kennethmorrison7689 Місяць тому

    The Smithsonan(?) Institute hosts original copies of over 900 treaties with Indian tribes. Everyone of those treaties were broken by US govt's.

  • @brendasolano1126
    @brendasolano1126 Місяць тому

    Amy, give air time to Jill Stain.

  • @tonyalloyd6010
    @tonyalloyd6010 Місяць тому

    We refuse to be remove ….. JUSTICE FOR THE THE COPPER COLORED RACE… SEMINOLE BLACKFOOT 🪶

  • @jackbrown8052
    @jackbrown8052 Місяць тому +3

    If the Cherokee are seeking tribal sovereignty from the US shouldn't all tribes conquered by other tribes also have tribal sovereignty from the tribes that conquered them?

    • @LM-ki5ll
      @LM-ki5ll Місяць тому

      1. Tribal sovereignty is a guarantee of all federal recognized tribes 2. Each tribe had their own 1 to 1 relationship with the US 3. Watch the video and it explains this

    • @jackbrown8052
      @jackbrown8052 Місяць тому

      @@LM-ki5ll I'm not talking about each tribe's relationship with the US. I'm talking about each tribe's relationship with another tribe who conquered or took them over in some way.
      Tribes are demanding sovereignty from the US. So it seems fair if one tribe took over another tribe by force or assimilation the tribe taken over should also be able to get their freedom and sovereignty back from the tribe that took them over.

    • @LM-ki5ll
      @LM-ki5ll Місяць тому +1

      @@jackbrown8052 the tribes *have* sovereignty. Each tribe is its *own* tribal nation. There is no singular tribal government system all the nations are under. You aren't grasping the concepts and are trying to throw in something that has no standing. It does not matter that tribes precolonially were at war. Just like Germany or Britain or Spain have sovereignty today despite their own history of warring with each other.
      Look up the marshal trilogy. It is the basis of tribal sovereignty today.

    • @jackbrown8052
      @jackbrown8052 Місяць тому

      @@LM-ki5ll If you want to argue the Marshall Trilogy then Cherokee Nation v. Georgia (1831) would apply. In this case SCOTUS said "The Cherokees argued that they were a foreign nation and the laws of Georgia did not apply to them. The Court denied the injunction and went on to say that the Cherokees were not a foreign nation, but they were a ‘domestic dependent nation.’ The relationship between the tribes and the United States was like that of a ‘ward to a guardian.’ This case outlined the sovereign nature of tribes as not like states, but not as complete foreign nations either. Tribal sovereignty was limited by being within the boundaries of the United States, but that tribal sovereignty was inherent sovereignty, which means that it predates the United States. The responsibility that the federal government has to tribes takes root from this and the next of the famous Marshall Indian cases. That responsibility is called the ‘doctrine of federal trust responsibility.’ The idea was that in exchange for the taking of land from the tribes, the federal government would protect the tribes in the lands that they ended up with, and compensate them by providing basic necessities such as food, shelter, and human services to the tribes."
      This means that none of the tribes in the US can claim to be a sovereign nation.

    • @cp3calinigga
      @cp3calinigga Місяць тому

      @@LM-ki5lllol so basically you’re hypocrite

  • @transplant-f3p
    @transplant-f3p Місяць тому

    Success for these efforts will have to happen in court. There is also a World Court. In the World Court this would uncomfortable PR for the U.S. government. Andrew Jackson ignored the law when he created the "Trail Of Tears". Produce a video that provides an honest documentary about the event and let the public see it on streaming TV. More people watch TV than read books, especially history books. Cherokee had their own effective law abiding society. Hasn't a tribe in Oklahoma already won a case against the U.S. Government ? I would rather have my money go to American Indians than foreign governments.

  • @4estdweller4ever
    @4estdweller4ever Місяць тому

    Politics suck. Everybody circling the wagons around their personal interests no matter how much it hurts others. Me first and if there’s anything left over that’s mine too.

  • @5554132
    @5554132 Місяць тому +1

    💋❤‍🔥

  • @johnimhoff6153
    @johnimhoff6153 Місяць тому

    Netanyahu say "If we make it through December, everything gonna be okay."On the 1st day,of Christmas, my true love gave,to me...BARACK OBAMA. On the 2nd day of Christmas my true love gave to me DONALD TRUMP. On the 3nd day of Christmas my true love gave to me...$5 Joe Biden! America's working class Zionist. On the 4th day of Christmas my true love gave to me... Hey, wait a minute... .. I thought there Is only ONE DAY OF CHRISTMAS! Where did that come from? How many days in Chanukah?😮

    • @bazs2855
      @bazs2855 Місяць тому

      12 days of Christmas is an old English tradition stemming from the dark ages. It’s has nothing to do with Hanukkah.

  • @pfflyer3381
    @pfflyer3381 Місяць тому +3

    5:23 we set the narrative, trail of tears. Nice and soft! Only crying,.
    In other places it called, -Death march"!

  • @GladiolaGirl
    @GladiolaGirl Місяць тому +1

    🥲🥲🥲🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️

    • @pfflyer3381
      @pfflyer3381 Місяць тому

      Christianity was the problem, get woke!

  • @mattdobbs-dr2rt
    @mattdobbs-dr2rt Місяць тому +1

    She speaks well for squaw... she from England actually?

    • @jimhere1
      @jimhere1 Місяць тому +1

      Reported for hate speech

  • @Curt-Gevert
    @Curt-Gevert Місяць тому +2

    Buy her book and it will tell you everything you need to know. Pretty capitalistic if you ask me.

  • @kennethsmart7674
    @kennethsmart7674 Місяць тому +2

    The Cherokee nation supports Trump and criticizes Elizabeth Warren on her native ancestral claim.

  • @kellielaine5848
    @kellielaine5848 Місяць тому +6

    Kennedy is the native American advocate, the ONE. You blocked him, Amy, and lost all credibility as a justice journalist.

    • @La_Hoja_Verde
      @La_Hoja_Verde Місяць тому +4

      Lmao

    • @kellielaine5848
      @kellielaine5848 Місяць тому +3

      @@La_Hoja_Verde you've not done your homework, tsk tsk

    • @La_Hoja_Verde
      @La_Hoja_Verde Місяць тому

      @@kellielaine5848 Dude ran a throwaway campaign and then endorsed Trump. It doesn't matter what he says. He's irrelevant.

    • @greatestone4eva
      @greatestone4eva Місяць тому +1

      kennedy isnt even native. and he has no backbone he sought a job with both republican and democrat teams after losing out.

    • @artstrology
      @artstrology Місяць тому +1

      JFK is the one who ordered Lake Perfidy, and removed the Seneca so they could build a dam. Catholics have never been an ally for Native Peoples, they are the primary enemy. Biden placed Haaland in his admin, but she was listed as Catholic.

  • @steven2183
    @steven2183 Місяць тому +1

    Think the title of her book was inspired by the tiki torches in Charlottesville?