Chinobhohwera Masabata ndechekuti they know too much. We grew up being told animals went into the ark 2 by 2 Masabata anobva akuvhurira wonzwa kuti pane dzimwe dzaive by the sevens. Gen 7 vs 2 to 3. We grew up hearing songs zvichinzi Eria aenda nengoro yemoto ivo vanobva vavhura 2 Kings 2 vs 1, 11 to 12. We grew up being taught Sunday is the day for Church observance ivo vanobva vavhura Genesis 2 vs 1 to 3, Ezekiel 20 vs 20, Exodus 20 vs 8 to 11 as if thats not enough avo kutestament itsva Hebrews 4 vs 8 to 11. Chiwenga knows this so you cant risk going head to head with someone ane chokwadi on public platforms. Adventist do not claim to be infallible but we cant dispute the truth they teach. If Chiwega had love for fellow Christians adi auya asunungura masabata arimurima as he claims.
Ev Marufu was responding to questions he was asked. And from the podcasts i have seen, he never said I am really desperate to destroy Chiwenga but he said, "I am open to anyone who wants a bible discussion." Not what Chiwenga is saying. By the way, Jesus had no any position in the Church and Pharises and Elders of the Church couldn't believe he did great works and all they could do was to accuse him. This is what Chiwenga is doing. Anyone can preach the word of God and its not a Title. Kana makutoita zvema titles it means its for personal gains not to spread the message to all the world. What matters is to know the truth. EG White never created this church. Please don't mislead people Chiwenga.
It will be interesting to know how did Chiwenga became an Apostle. We all know how Peter, Andrew,Thomas, John and the rest of the 12 men became an Apostle. Even Mathias, how he occupy the office left vacant by Judas Iscariot. We never heard any other individual calling himself Apostle besides these 12 men. When one dies no person in the new Testament dares to replace them in the new Testament as another Apostles. Even when and where they were send ,we know and by whom and how we know. But this Chiwenga guy we don't know how for sure. But It seems he has managed to hoodwink and convince many people ignorant personals that Jesus has forgotten to let us know that another Apostle will come from Zimbabwe after 2000 years from death of John the last Apostle. So the question still stands, Who made Chiwenga an Apostle. Who send Chiwenga.
Blazman munebvepfepfe imi hindava muchida kuita personal so ,kana Chiwenga wacho achiziva magwaro why he keeps running away from vanhu vese vaanoti makava? Akanzi huya naJ maponga akatiza wani, Marufu challenged him now arikutiza .If he truly has facts, why can't he stand tall paDebate racho tobva tati akapenga
@@munyaradzimatsveru4382 Hauna chaunonotoziva newewo uri mugroup ravaZigo nana Maponga navana Marufu navana Muparinga.Nyararai panoparidzwa naApostole Chiwenga.Maponga is not a man of God in'anga zvayo haatona a sound doctrine.Iwe Marufu wako aita mutete mhani thts y Chiwenga ati wahwina hako marufu haatambise nguva kupwere idzo pavhangeri.Marufu dai waita steady dzikama ishungu dzauinadzo dzirikukupa kusagadzikana kwauinako.Marufu 2040 ndoyauchazenge wakura zvekuita debate naApostole Chiwenga.zvamanji manji chimbodzidza shoko wakanyarara
This has revealed that Chiwenga is not being led by the Spirit of the Lord, because those who are led by the Spirit of the Lord do not behave and talk like this.
Chiwenga has strong doctrine only problem nowadays is love of money. Passion Java ndiye akatsausa Apostle Chiwenga paakamuti he is still poor he must upgrade his level before achi responda kwaari😂
Weldone Apostle.There is no need to debate on things known even with non preachers..We all know Jesus is the end of the Law fullstop.He is now our Sabbath.Verengai kuti Sabata raibatwa sei moona kuti vahedheni mungaxvigona here?
Hapana chozikanwa na apostole avo he is full of himself, even the Bible says man of God should be humble not kuzvi rova dundundu he is after money a'd firm, hapana Chino zirikanwa pana Chiwenga
Satan always hate the Law of God Revelation 12vs17 that's God's church and the devil hate it so ukanzwa munhu anoramba mutemo waMwari pane chakamugara chisiri Mwari
This guy is just arrogant, he said he can debate with anyone, now when people he fears challenges him he starts giving silly excuses and heaps insults on them.
This guys Chiwenga has a huge problem he needs everyone's prayers. Can you believe he tried to debate that young SDA man on the streets who is not known anywhere in SDA, now he refuses to engage with someone who knows the truth. I had him butchering the second covenant and ignorant people ululating!!! Lucifer leading this brother, too much unnecessary pride. By the way the book he claims to preach does it say pride is the greatest sin of them all????
Thank you Chiwenga for the Confirmation kuti wati Iwe Marufu ahwinha.Ichi ndicho chokwadi chawareva.Huya ku SDA udzidze shoko benyu kana wave sober tokuita mufundisi wedu kana watsungirira kufamba muzvokwadi
@@chamuchiwara7373 Ndochokwadi ngaauye ku SDA a'd isusu toda the Bible and the Bible only, anopa tama uyo hanyepere vanhu futii, hope dzanorota achituka vanhu he thinks he can do that to everyone
@@emmanuelnoel7668madii mambomira zvokuti *bible and bible alone*,hamuna bible ramunotevera imi so don't talk as if you are following the bible nokuti ndinogona kuto prover izvezvi kuti ma SDA hamuna bible ramakatenda asi vakatenda Ellen G white.....
SDA haina kana cha Kristu chainoziva,kana one zvacho,I can engage with you in so many SDA doctrinal positions ndokuratidza kuti sei ndati hamuna chaKristu chamunoziva,don't flatter yourself,gehena rakatokumirirai masavadha unless kana mazoitirwa nyasha dzokutendeuka, as long ukafa urimu savadha kana Kristu kudzoka urimusavadha hell is certain
Regai zvenyu Chiwenga achataura types dzose dzembwa.God has never complicated the Gospel kuti the common person asanzwisise.The Adventist Church has stood the taste of times.We will stand for truth bro no matter how many Dogs you know.lt seems hautozivi chinonzi an Apostle chii.Uchiri ku Kindergarten panzwisiso uchazoona hako kuti puppy ndeipi.Vana Devorah vaitaura na Mwari wani vachimiririra Mwari.Nhema hadzi laster long baba Chiwenga urimunyasha dzaMwari but ukaramba uchiisa vanhu ku nhema knowingly as you seem to do Mwari pachake anokugadzirira your own Damascus experience ukasiya that false trajectory yauri kumhanya nayo uchiuya kuzvokwadi ya Mwari akasika the God of the true Sabbath the 7th Day.
@chamuchiwara7373 Mwari watinonamata is identified by his Son Jesus Christ not a day,he's personified, we don't preach physical day but a spiritual day which is Christ,unoti tingaita nguva yokuterera ana Ellen G white vakazvituma here........God never sent a woman to INTRODUCE the doctrine or the gospel,NEVER,God never started any bible college,sabata raIsrael harina kubvira rambochengetwa sezvamurikuita imi zvokuti chero tikati rinochengetwa it is IMPOSSIBLE to observe sabbath today unless kana usingatozive kuti zvii zvinofanira kuitwa kuti rinzi rachengetwa rikaita dzvene,izvo zvamurikuita ndezva Ellen G white azvinei naMwari,......we don't preach or observe days,zveku observer ndezvovambwa kwenyika zvisina maturo zvisina simba.............Galatians 4:8 Asi nenguva iyo, zvamakanga musingazivi Mwari, maiva varanda vavamwari vasati vari vezvokwadi; 9 asi zvino, zvamunoziva Mwari, zvikuru zvamunozikamwa naMwari modzokerazve seiko kune zvokuvamba zvisine simba, zvovurombo, muchida zve kutanga kuva varanda vazvo? 10 Munochengeta misi nemwedzi, nenguva namakore. 11 Ndinotya pamsoro penyu, kuti zvimwe ndakabate-basa kwamuri pasina.
I honestly didn’t think this man would attend the discussion, but his response here really did amaze me. This man thinks this is about winning.?? By their fruits you shall know them.
Ini ndakagara ndazvitaura. Amai Apostle Chiwenga is too busy to be tossed about by these clowns who can only get views and fame and recognition just because they have managed to cook up a story about Apostle Chiwenga. Apostle Chiwenga is busy running the church in Asia, Africa, Europe, America, Australia. He is also looking out for his security and his health. Right now he still has not finished the John Series and we have started the Job Series. We have a big get-together soon. He has Soundbites, counselling, Dares etc to conduct and these little puppies think he has time to come to a radio studio to debate Ellen White. Are they for real? Tell them to go and debate Makandiwa and Magaya.
Chiwenga is a man who has failed both his marriage n ministry . For more than 10 yrs in ministry the guy still preaches heress from a spare bedroom size studio yet he collects money from his blind followers. You chiwenga people open your eyes.
@@ChecXYkitout The fact remain . Chiwenga is one who invite ANYONE publicly to discuss about doctrine . Chiwenga himself akatoisa protocol,Marufu akaitedzedzera and chiwenga akabvuna then cancel again without specific reason uye zvese izvi zvakaitika makore 2 apfuuura. Kana uchiyeuka month ago chiwenga akati munhu anoparidza Deut 22:5 kuti inoreva matrouse anopenga, haana kudziidza and so on. Aireva Marufu coz ndiye akaparidza kuti vakadzi vasapfeka matrouse using that verse. Ko akangotora Moment of Laughter kuiita Debate / Discussion time anenge anyanya kurasikirwa ere .
Read your Bible again when Paul encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus he did not Damascus ministries God Church is from eden to eden church yakatanga ku Eden and Jerusalem not kunoku ku Africa no mamwe ma continents kunenge kwakuspreader chete read churchs history hama yangu so the man akuratidza pride and you are defending him
@@rockmaposa3109 . There have been many numerous sermons on why observing the sabbath is on longer required. eg Message to my Adventist Friends, Gomba Q&A etc. We have had people ask questions and run away from Gomba after failing to back up their arguements. Apostle has in the past called from Dares were in the end, the same Questions are asked over and over again and the same response and verses are given and explained. In the theses ended being a waste of time because we ended up having small fish from the streets trying to boast their views by coming to these dares with weak arguements. Now this puppet Marufu wants to call a debate with Apostle just because Apostle called someone Aurther Miller instead of Roger Miller or just because Apostle said 1850 instead of 1780 or something silly like that. SO WHAT what Miller's first name was or what Miller had for breakfast? As you probably know now, Apostle has stepped up the game and now touching on purity of a marriage, abominations, men growing stronger with empassies on scriptures. It has been over 10 years of opening scriptures about why tithe, festivals, sabbath, is no longer required. We can't keep going back. Asara asara. Go and look, listen and repeat the preaching a few times on what Deu 22:5 meanings because trying to explain it on here, I know that todays Zimbabweans have weak understanding and a short time span of concentrating on deep things. All we are good at is receive, receive, prophecy me, go deeper.
The fact that you're refusing saying Marufu is a nobody is proof that he's chickening out,and Pride is the fall of men. If he's so sure about his beliefs why is he afraid to prove all SDAs wrong despite who he is debating with him
But we have seen Apostle debating "nobodies" in SDA church. I mean, individuals in SDA without titles. I can count a number of Adventist brothers, i have seen on the Dare platform debating with Apostle. Has it changed since.
Pride goes before distruction and haughty spirit before a fall. Whoever exalts themselves will be , and whoevers humbles himself will be exalted. VaChivenga submit to God and resit the devil. Kuzvitutumadza muchizviita mukuru kwenyu uku discredits your authenticity as messenger of God. Christ calls us to be Christ like, meaning to be and live like him, as a preacher you lead by example as Christ though being God humbled himself taking the form of a servant becoming human. Ko imi zvenyu munhu, simba rekuzvikudza nekuzviita Pit bull munoriwanepiko ?
Hahah but you’re happy to pick people off the street and embarrass them because they are not grounded in what they believe. Sounds like Goliath before David. Sounds like the pit bull has lost its bite😅
Chiwenga zvaabvuma kuti akundwa naMarufu, he should do the right thing and retract all his lies about sabbath, and all other heresies. Iye wacho should come and get baptised into SDA faith.
I am an Apostle. Who made you an Apostle. Who made him an Apostle. Who called you to be an Apostle, when and how and who send you and where. Chiwenga himself will never be an Apostle even though you call yourself that meaning you also have won. The last Apostle was John, who died around 90AD.
@ericharati4751 Why must we argue. What is the reason of arguing or you just respond without understanding. You see so who is empty now. Instead of giving answers to questions asked you just went wild in your responses. Ignorance will consume you.
@artherrunesu The term Apostle simply means ONE WHO IS SENT. We all know who sent Peter, James, Judas etc. What we don't know is who sent this Chiwenga. Look at how ignorant you are. When l asked who sent Chiwenga and where? , right in that question, l was telling you the meaning of the word Apostle. But as always you choose to be ignorant. Not everything is a matter of one's interpretation. So are you going to answer the question now , Who sent Chiwenga, when was he sent? and where was he sent to,? or not? Give answer
Marufu is indeed a small he can't debate Chiwenga😂. Chiwenga is higher so far he can only be stopped by Damina. Both Chiwenga and Damina are strong. In fact these two preach same messege though Chiwenga likes to put himself on top.
The sad reality is that even Maponga asked u to debate he chickened out. Remember Marufu didn’t grow up sda he was mpostoli. So he knows some of the teaches or arguments brought by Chiwenga. U can’t attack a denomination and refuse a pastor from that denomination to defend, explain; show evidence etc. Any denomination u speak about have a pastor of that church to be present and explain. The behaviour of attacking people while there are not there is like people who can only threaten u on the phone but can’t say the same thing in person. A singe ke Segway gnawed thina Chiwenga. Too much false teaching
Iwe is he an Adventist anoti hakuna title inonzi evangelist akazviwana kupi ngangobvuma plus haisi nyaya yekuti uriani bible rinotii plus haasi marufu akati anoda ndi zigo akada kukubatanidzai Ko iwe unoti uri apostle wakazviwana papi mubible
Saka kana usiri muSDA zvinoreva kuti zveku SDA hauzvizive here?Inhema here kuti hamuna title ya evangelist muSDA? Mu SDA kuna President(asipo mu bhaibheri futi) munema Pastors which were ordained by a prophetess(which is un biblical again),munema Elders ma Deacons and Deaconeses......in other words SDA has a church structure *which is not according to scriptures or to the early church but according to Ellen G white*.......izvozvi chete tisati tabata zvakawanda kana usina kudhakwa ne wine ye Babylon unofanira kuwona kurasika kwe SDA.........zvino satan aka maker sure kuti hamuzvinetsi nema fundamental issues of the gospel.....akakudzidzisai kunongozvinetsa ne sabata chete,akakugadzirirai your own standard of holiness which is contrary to the scriptures
Apostle munhuwo am sure uku kurasikawo.... Zvemazino nekushaikwa kwawo hazvifaniri kumisa chokwadi kuti chibudiswe. What if from that debate Ev Marufu was to be saved? Who knows? I am sure this issue was not well handled.
Deborah was a woman but a King and a judge for Israel, God can use anyone, Ellen White is far much better than you Amai kkkkk in the sight of the Lord. What is wrong with the Sabbath, its for our own good.
Looks like Chiwenga is the one looking for Pitbulls ndiye arikutsvaka mbiri. There are Evangelists in the SDA church if Mr Chiwenga didn’t know. That shows some lack of knowledge on his side. Also when a platform comes up where you have a chance to preach your truth there is no other better time to do that than pawatowana mukana ipapo. That’s how the gospel spreads. Also l have seen him debate Adventists on issues of the law on one or two videos that l can look for and post on the timeline . People who were not even pastors. Lastly Chiwenga has proved he is the only bonafide Man of God bcoz he has called almost all other preachers of the gospel charlatans. Not that he is wrong asi kuti anozarurirwa chokwadi ichocho namwari wake. Only he and his god know the truth
God does not judge according to positions and hierarchy.The Jewish leaders made the same mistake and they failed even to recognize when Yeshua came . He came through Joseph who had no position and who was just a carpenter. So earthly position and popularity doesn't count in God's Kingdom. You speak like a pharisee
At your church they call you Amai, yet you are contradicting yourself uchiti hakuna message inobva kune munhukadzi. The birth of Jesus Christ was first told to Mary iye Joseph asipo
Iwewe pachako ungade kuita conversation nemunhu anozviti conductor mundege since when ndege Ina conductor 😅😅😅😅😅 SDA akuna evangelist anzi bring someone who is better than muchinda uyo in SDA cult
In reality that's his class ,he must debate with him let's see because the same way he wants to debate with big names they are calling him a puppy because he is a puppy.
James 4 VS 10, who is he to say he can't face Marufu Jesus mingled with everyone, I tell you this Chiwenga guy is full of himself, with Marufu he won't stand, he will be ashamed, Chiwenga know nothing, we said it before, he will be ashamed uyo
😂😂😂.......Noone is immune to prophecy ....The lack of humility was the downfall of Chiwenga ...parizvino uyu haasisiri pambiri yaMwari. Jethro ....taakuda kusvika paye patakati ..you will make a video soon disowning him ....Achaita zvekuti even you will say that's not it.......
Pride mkoma yakakuwandirai chero muchiziva henyu . No need to turn down invitations. Musawande nekuti munonyanyoziva zvakanyanya zvekusvika pakuti hamuchatare nevasina ruzivo . Apa murikutodzikisira vakadzi futi to prove kuti makadzungaira.
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Chinobhohwera Masabata ndechekuti they know too much. We grew up being told animals went into the ark 2 by 2 Masabata anobva akuvhurira wonzwa kuti pane dzimwe dzaive by the sevens. Gen 7 vs 2 to 3. We grew up hearing songs zvichinzi Eria aenda nengoro yemoto ivo vanobva vavhura 2 Kings 2 vs 1, 11 to 12. We grew up being taught Sunday is the day for Church observance ivo vanobva vavhura Genesis 2 vs 1 to 3, Ezekiel 20 vs 20, Exodus 20 vs 8 to 11 as if thats not enough avo kutestament itsva Hebrews 4 vs 8 to 11. Chiwenga knows this so you cant risk going head to head with someone ane chokwadi on public platforms. Adventist do not claim to be infallible but we cant dispute the truth they teach. If Chiwega had love for fellow Christians adi auya asunungura masabata arimurima as he claims.
you are making much sense bro.God bless the truth
If listen to apostle chiwenga you will understand 1 thing he didn’t have anything to do with so called Christian
You shall the truth and the shall set you free. I like your comment friend
Vanhu verengai bible mega.
Genesisi 7:2
Utore mhando dzemhuka dzose dzakanaka nomwe nomwe, mukono nehadzi yayo uye mbiri mbiri pamhando dzose dzemhuka dzisina kunaka, mukono nehadzi yayo
Ev Marufu was responding to questions he was asked. And from the podcasts i have seen, he never said I am really desperate to destroy Chiwenga but he said, "I am open to anyone who wants a bible discussion." Not what Chiwenga is saying.
By the way, Jesus had no any position in the Church and Pharises and Elders of the Church couldn't believe he did great works and all they could do was to accuse him. This is what Chiwenga is doing. Anyone can preach the word of God and its not a Title. Kana makutoita zvema titles it means its for personal gains not to spread the message to all the world. What matters is to know the truth.
EG White never created this church. Please don't mislead people Chiwenga.
Yes akaitongo pindura zvaakanga abvunzwa haana kana kumboti anenzara yekuita debet rachiwengwa.
Haa Evangelist Marufu preaches the true gospel and he know scriptures
Manje ava baba vanenge agent wasatan he is the to find problem mune vamwe vake haana kana chisvinu chaanotaura about God's gispel
It will be interesting to know how did Chiwenga became an Apostle. We all know how Peter, Andrew,Thomas, John and the rest of the 12 men became an Apostle. Even Mathias, how he occupy the office left vacant by Judas Iscariot. We never heard any other individual calling himself Apostle besides these 12 men. When one dies no person in the new Testament dares to replace them in the new Testament as another Apostles.
Even when and where they were send ,we know and by whom and how we know.
But this Chiwenga guy we don't know how for sure. But
It seems he has managed to hoodwink and convince many people ignorant personals that Jesus has forgotten to let us know that another Apostle will come from Zimbabwe after 2000 years from death of John the last Apostle.
So the question still stands, Who made Chiwenga an Apostle. Who send Chiwenga.
Wakanzi naJoshua Maponga huya ukatya comrade
I only sense pride from Apostle.
We have Evengelists inS D A Watyiwa munhu waMwari😅😅😅😅
The level of pride u have, even Satan is 10times humble than you.
Mareva baba
Marufu ingori preasure yekumhanya nedzungu rekusatoziva magwaro.Haasati akura zvekuita debate naapostole Chiwenga. Ngaamirire 2040 ndopaanenge ava kukodzera kumira naChiwenga one on one not now guys .Honai zvakaita zigo achivhura maverse achisapota Muparinga achifunga achitsiura Chiwenga. Unonyarirepi nhai zigo nauparinga wako mataurirwa chokwadi chirikubva mumagwaro.Bvumai imi makava Marufu wenyu ngaambomira idzungu chete raanaro nespeed .Give Chiwenga a pitbull not tumbwanana twune shungu yekuhukura.Marufu ita steady wangu
Blazman munebvepfepfe imi hindava muchida kuita personal so ,kana Chiwenga wacho achiziva magwaro why he keeps running away from vanhu vese vaanoti makava? Akanzi huya naJ maponga akatiza wani, Marufu challenged him now arikutiza .If he truly has facts, why can't he stand tall paDebate racho tobva tati akapenga
@@munyaradzimatsveru4382 Hauna chaunonotoziva newewo uri mugroup ravaZigo nana Maponga navana Marufu navana Muparinga.Nyararai panoparidzwa naApostole Chiwenga.Maponga is not a man of God in'anga zvayo haatona a sound doctrine.Iwe Marufu wako aita mutete mhani thts y Chiwenga ati wahwina hako marufu haatambise nguva kupwere idzo pavhangeri.Marufu dai waita steady dzikama ishungu dzauinadzo dzirikukupa kusagadzikana kwauinako.Marufu 2040 ndoyauchazenge wakura zvekuita debate naApostole Chiwenga.zvamanji manji chimbodzidza shoko wakanyarara
@TashyTechymadii madzikama zvenyu,chi chaMwari chamunoziva masavadha,takabva neko ufunge
@@givemorenyamunzororo2958tell them my brother.......zvaida kuisa pride pa side vanhu vodzidza vakanyarara
@TashyTechy so y bothering yourself if he knows nothing .Chiwenga will remain the true man of God kunyangwe asingazvide hako chekuita hapana.
This has revealed that Chiwenga is not being led by the Spirit of the Lord, because those who are led by the Spirit of the Lord do not behave and talk like this.
Chiwenga has strong doctrine only problem nowadays is love of money. Passion Java ndiye akatsausa Apostle Chiwenga paakamuti he is still poor he must upgrade his level before achi responda kwaari😂
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Ev Marufu is your perfect match. @Chiwenga
He picks them from the streets and debates. When someone informed invites him he is now a pit bull.
Apa vatya apostle kukwata chaiko ndikokwavaita. Marufu Howard na Maponga vanovatya zvekutodaro.
Weldone Apostle.There is no need to debate on things known even with non preachers..We all know Jesus is the end of the Law fullstop.He is now our Sabbath.Verengai kuti Sabata raibatwa sei moona kuti vahedheni mungaxvigona here?
What do u mean end of the law and he is the sabbath. What verse says that
Hapana chozikanwa na apostole avo he is full of himself, even the Bible says man of God should be humble not kuzvi rova dundundu he is after money a'd firm, hapana Chino zirikanwa pana Chiwenga
Satan always hate the Law of God Revelation 12vs17 that's God's church and the devil hate it so ukanzwa munhu anoramba mutemo waMwari pane chakamugara chisiri Mwari
This guy is just arrogant, he said he can debate with anyone, now when people he fears challenges him he starts giving silly excuses and heaps insults on them.
Imagine moses bragging like this 😂
Chiwenga haana bible raanoziva to those vanofunga kuti anoziva
This guys Chiwenga has a huge problem he needs everyone's prayers.
Can you believe he tried to debate that young SDA man on the streets who is not known anywhere in SDA, now he refuses to engage with someone who knows the truth. I had him butchering the second covenant and ignorant people ululating!!!
Lucifer leading this brother, too much unnecessary pride.
By the way the book he claims to preach does it say pride is the greatest sin of them all????
PITBULL 👏👏👏
Debate him not prove yourself superior but to teach him and correct him , we also benefit as Christians followers
Thank you Chiwenga for the Confirmation kuti wati Iwe Marufu ahwinha.Ichi ndicho chokwadi chawareva.Huya ku SDA udzidze shoko benyu kana wave sober tokuita mufundisi wedu kana watsungirira kufamba muzvokwadi
@@chamuchiwara7373 Ndochokwadi ngaauye ku SDA a'd isusu toda the Bible and the Bible only, anopa tama uyo hanyepere vanhu futii, hope dzanorota achituka vanhu he thinks he can do that to everyone
@@emmanuelnoel7668madii mambomira zvokuti *bible and bible alone*,hamuna bible ramunotevera imi so don't talk as if you are following the bible nokuti ndinogona kuto prover izvezvi kuti ma SDA hamuna bible ramakatenda asi vakatenda Ellen G white.....
SDA haina kana cha Kristu chainoziva,kana one zvacho,I can engage with you in so many SDA doctrinal positions ndokuratidza kuti sei ndati hamuna chaKristu chamunoziva,don't flatter yourself,gehena rakatokumirirai masavadha unless kana mazoitirwa nyasha dzokutendeuka, as long ukafa urimu savadha kana Kristu kudzoka urimusavadha hell is certain
Regai zvenyu Chiwenga achataura types dzose dzembwa.God has never complicated the Gospel kuti the common person asanzwisise.The Adventist Church has stood the taste of times.We will stand for truth bro no matter how many Dogs you know.lt seems hautozivi chinonzi an Apostle chii.Uchiri ku Kindergarten panzwisiso uchazoona hako kuti puppy ndeipi.Vana Devorah vaitaura na Mwari wani vachimiririra Mwari.Nhema hadzi laster long baba Chiwenga urimunyasha dzaMwari but ukaramba uchiisa vanhu ku nhema knowingly as you seem to do Mwari pachake anokugadzirira your own Damascus experience ukasiya that false trajectory yauri kumhanya nayo uchiuya kuzvokwadi ya Mwari akasika the God of the true Sabbath the 7th Day.
@chamuchiwara7373 Mwari watinonamata is identified by his Son Jesus Christ not a day,he's personified, we don't preach physical day but a spiritual day which is Christ,unoti tingaita nguva yokuterera ana Ellen G white vakazvituma here........God never sent a woman to INTRODUCE the doctrine or the gospel,NEVER,God never started any bible college,sabata raIsrael harina kubvira rambochengetwa sezvamurikuita imi zvokuti chero tikati rinochengetwa it is IMPOSSIBLE to observe sabbath today unless kana usingatozive kuti zvii zvinofanira kuitwa kuti rinzi rachengetwa rikaita dzvene,izvo zvamurikuita ndezva Ellen G white azvinei naMwari,......we don't preach or observe days,zveku observer ndezvovambwa kwenyika zvisina maturo zvisina simba.............Galatians 4:8 Asi nenguva iyo, zvamakanga musingazivi Mwari, maiva varanda vavamwari vasati vari vezvokwadi;
9 asi zvino, zvamunoziva Mwari, zvikuru zvamunozikamwa naMwari modzokerazve seiko kune zvokuvamba zvisine simba, zvovurombo, muchida zve kutanga kuva varanda vazvo?
10 Munochengeta misi nemwedzi, nenguva namakore.
11 Ndinotya pamsoro penyu, kuti zvimwe ndakabate-basa kwamuri pasina.
I honestly didn’t think this man would attend the discussion, but his response here really did amaze me. This man thinks this is about winning.??
By their fruits you shall know them.
Congratulations Marufu!!!!
Wakurasika manje Chiwenga
Thank you Amai
Ukawona uri munhu waMwari une kunekunamata kune chibairo chine mavara,,first bvisa mavara uchene uwoneke, chiyedza chenyu ngachive chichivenekra vanhu vose zvakanaka,,seyi chiwenga usingatsiurike nenyaya ye kusvikudza, ,hapana akati ahuzive bible ,seyi une mweya wekusada kuzvininipisa, ,everything ungori iwe, iwe, inini,inini, inini, Chiwenga tendeuka spirit yekuzvikudza iyi, pride, tendeuka ukasatendeuka pamharidzo yenyika yekuti bvisa pride, ,uchaipa kupfuura zvauri, ,gadzirisa mabasa ako akaipa aya, ,panekuti mutaurirane na marufu munzwanane Chokwadi chobudiswa pachena asi iwe Chiwenga urikungozvikudza, ,tendeukahama yedu, ,Jesu anouyazve
Kkkk kusvika pakutaura zvemapitbull pashoko raMwari nekuhwina ......Mashoko iwaya ega anotaura kuti arikudaro pashoko raMwari munhu akaita sei........ otherwise shoko harikumirwi asi kuti iro ndiro rinototanga kududzira kuti arikuritaura ndewechokwadi here kana kuti wemanyepo
The truth is Chiwenga is afraid 😨 of getting tossed
Chiwenga is wise he does not want to be exposed simple ... bt iye anoziva hake kuti ari kutsausa vanhu
Ini ndakagara ndazvitaura.
Amai Apostle Chiwenga is too busy to be tossed about by these clowns who can only get views and fame and recognition just because they have managed to cook up a story about Apostle Chiwenga.
Apostle Chiwenga is busy running the church in Asia, Africa, Europe, America, Australia. He is also looking out for his security and his health. Right now he still has not finished the John Series and we have started the Job Series. We have a big get-together soon. He has Soundbites, counselling, Dares etc to conduct and these little puppies think he has time to come to a radio studio to debate Ellen White. Are they for real?
Tell them to go and debate Makandiwa and Magaya.
Chiwenga is a man who has failed both his marriage n ministry . For more than 10 yrs in ministry the guy still preaches heress from a spare bedroom size studio yet he collects money from his blind followers. You chiwenga people open your eyes.
@@ChecXYkitout The fact remain . Chiwenga is one who invite ANYONE publicly to discuss about doctrine . Chiwenga himself akatoisa protocol,Marufu akaitedzedzera and chiwenga akabvuna then cancel again without specific reason uye zvese izvi zvakaitika makore 2 apfuuura.
Kana uchiyeuka month ago chiwenga akati munhu anoparidza Deut 22:5 kuti inoreva matrouse anopenga, haana kudziidza and so on. Aireva Marufu coz ndiye akaparidza kuti vakadzi vasapfeka matrouse using that verse.
Ko akangotora Moment of Laughter kuiita Debate / Discussion time anenge anyanya kurasikirwa ere .
Read your Bible again when Paul encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus he did not Damascus ministries God Church is from eden to eden church yakatanga ku Eden and Jerusalem not kunoku ku Africa no mamwe ma continents kunenge kwakuspreader chete read churchs history hama yangu so the man akuratidza pride and you are defending him
@@rockmaposa3109 . There have been many numerous sermons on why observing the sabbath is on longer required. eg Message to my Adventist Friends, Gomba Q&A etc. We have had people ask questions and run away from Gomba after failing to back up their arguements.
Apostle has in the past called from Dares were in the end, the same Questions are asked over and over again and the same response and verses are given and explained. In the theses ended being a waste of time because we ended up having small fish from the streets trying to boast their views by coming to these dares with weak arguements.
Now this puppet Marufu wants to call a debate with Apostle just because Apostle called someone Aurther Miller instead of Roger Miller or just because Apostle said 1850 instead of 1780 or something silly like that. SO WHAT what Miller's first name was or what Miller had for breakfast?
As you probably know now, Apostle has stepped up the game and now touching on purity of a marriage, abominations, men growing stronger with empassies on scriptures. It has been over 10 years of opening scriptures about why tithe, festivals, sabbath, is no longer required. We can't keep going back. Asara asara.
Go and look, listen and repeat the preaching a few times on what Deu 22:5 meanings because trying to explain it on here, I know that todays Zimbabweans have weak understanding and a short time span of concentrating on deep things. All we are good at is receive, receive, prophecy me, go deeper.
@@nancynyawodza2426 . Dear Nancy Nyarwodza. Some comments don't require a response. You sound ill.
Zvakuremeraa Chiwenga, taura zvakanaka
The fact that you're refusing saying Marufu is a nobody is proof that he's chickening out,and Pride is the fall of men.
If he's so sure about his beliefs why is he afraid to prove all SDAs wrong despite who he is debating with him
This man has pride and if he is not careful pride will lead to his downfall
true, in fact he's already fallen.
Who crowned him an apostle????? Who crowns apostles????
Do you self-style yourself an apostle and it binds???
Jesus crows Apostle. Unfortunately he is in heaven. But signs of Apostleship are written all over him
That is Pride 101
Those who want to debate with Chiwenga ,they must just deny what he already preaches ,the sermons are there he proved them wrong already
Very primitive massage always
But we have seen Apostle debating "nobodies" in SDA church. I mean, individuals in SDA without titles. I can count a number of Adventist brothers, i have seen on the Dare platform debating with Apostle. Has it changed since.
Thats when he came up with a conclusion of not entertain them again through debates.
@@ArnoldMarambire Well, okay then
Jesus sent Mary with a message to the Apostles, he never said you're a woman. Endererai mberi nekurasisa vanhu.
This man is full of pride full of pride
I guess chiwenga doesn't read the book of Ruth..let alone Esther.
@@BellsChisanga chero nyaya ya Deborah or Mirriam
Is it about the truth or about the denomination.
Iwe hausi amai here 😅😅😅
Pride goes before distruction and haughty spirit before a fall. Whoever exalts themselves will be , and whoevers humbles himself will be exalted. VaChivenga submit to God and resit the devil. Kuzvitutumadza muchizviita mukuru kwenyu uku discredits your authenticity as messenger of God. Christ calls us to be Christ like, meaning to be and live like him, as a preacher you lead by example as Christ though being God humbled himself taking the form of a servant becoming human. Ko imi zvenyu munhu, simba rekuzvikudza nekuzviita Pit bull munoriwanepiko ?
😂😂 Mfesi uyu akatenduuka here ummm haya
Hahah but you’re happy to pick people off the street and embarrass them because they are not grounded in what they believe. Sounds like Goliath before David. Sounds like the pit bull has lost its bite😅
Atotya Puppy yacho nxaa😂
Guy knows nothing about SDA you need to educate yourself.
Chiwenga zvaabvuma kuti akundwa naMarufu, he should do the right thing and retract all his lies about sabbath, and all other heresies. Iye wacho should come and get baptised into SDA faith.
I am an Apostle.
Who made you an Apostle.
Who made him an Apostle.
Who called you to be an Apostle, when and how and who send you and where.
Chiwenga himself will never be an Apostle even though you call yourself that meaning you also have won.
The last Apostle was John, who died around 90AD.
Can't argue with you because you are empty
Kkkk 😂, sorry.
@ericharati4751 Why must we argue. What is the reason of arguing or you just respond without understanding.
You see so who is empty now.
Instead of giving answers to questions asked you just went wild in your responses.
Ignorance will consume you.
Do you know the meaning of the word "Apostle"
@artherrunesu The term Apostle simply means ONE WHO IS SENT. We all know who sent Peter, James, Judas etc.
What we don't know is who sent this Chiwenga.
Look at how ignorant you are. When l asked who sent Chiwenga and where? , right in that question, l was telling you the meaning of the word Apostle. But as always you choose to be ignorant.
Not everything is a matter of one's interpretation.
So are you going to answer the question now , Who sent Chiwenga, when was he sent? and where was he sent to,? or not?
Give answer
Marufu is indeed a small he can't debate Chiwenga😂. Chiwenga is higher so far he can only be stopped by Damina. Both Chiwenga and Damina are strong. In fact these two preach same messege though Chiwenga likes to put himself on top.
Lies
Akurasika Chiwenga. Anyway the bible haridi nharo dzema egos
His afraid chiwenga uyo
The David and Goliath repeat
Kkkkkkk kwahi Marufu waWinner. Kupenga zvake Chiwenga bt vashoma vanovhurirana naye bible.
Ariko ma evangelist ku sda.
Yes marufu murwere uyaa
Chiwenga is full of himself, Mwari havadi munhu anozvikudza.
kungoti SDA😂😂😂 CHETE ZVINOKURADZA KUTI HAPANA ZVINOZIKANWA
The sad reality is that even Maponga asked u to debate he chickened out. Remember Marufu didn’t grow up sda he was mpostoli. So he knows some of the teaches or arguments brought by Chiwenga. U can’t attack a denomination and refuse a pastor from that denomination to defend, explain; show evidence etc. Any denomination u speak about have a pastor of that church to be present and explain. The behaviour of attacking people while there are not there is like people who can only threaten u on the phone but can’t say the same thing in person. A singe ke Segway gnawed thina Chiwenga. Too much false teaching
Give him chance and listen 👂 to his opinion
Madzibaba marufu 😂😂😂mahwani debet
Iwe is he an Adventist anoti hakuna title inonzi evangelist akazviwana kupi ngangobvuma plus haisi nyaya yekuti uriani bible rinotii plus haasi marufu akati anoda ndi zigo akada kukubatanidzai
Ko iwe unoti uri apostle wakazviwana papi mubible
Saka kana usiri muSDA zvinoreva kuti zveku SDA hauzvizive here?Inhema here kuti hamuna title ya evangelist muSDA? Mu SDA kuna President(asipo mu bhaibheri futi) munema Pastors which were ordained by a prophetess(which is un biblical again),munema Elders ma Deacons and Deaconeses......in other words SDA has a church structure *which is not according to scriptures or to the early church but according to Ellen G white*.......izvozvi chete tisati tabata zvakawanda kana usina kudhakwa ne wine ye Babylon unofanira kuwona kurasika kwe SDA.........zvino satan aka maker sure kuti hamuzvinetsi nema fundamental issues of the gospel.....akakudzidzisai kunongozvinetsa ne sabata chete,akakugadzirirai your own standard of holiness which is contrary to the scriptures
Mxxxxm shame
You are not an apostle muri Amai, read your bible brother Jesus said to the apostles go and make disciples of all nations not Apostles.
Madzibaba marufu 😂😂😂
Apostle munhuwo am sure uku kurasikawo.... Zvemazino nekushaikwa kwawo hazvifaniri kumisa chokwadi kuti chibudiswe. What if from that debate Ev Marufu was to be saved? Who knows? I am sure this issue was not well handled.
Chiwenga ataura semunhu mukuru , zvekuti asangane na Marufu zvamukurira Saka apindura semunhu mukuru.
He uses other man of God by attacking them so that he be relevant
It's just debate but just jokes because what both of you doing hazvina Basa ne kunamata it's just your job not kuti murivaparidzie no
ini ndomwa doro but iwewe unotaura semunhu wekubhawa hauna mwari pauri ukutsvaga mbiri nemari
God doesn’t send a woman to preach 😂😂😂😂😂 but you have a lady as a Pastor in your church Talent wakapata uyu
Iye Chiwenga anotozviti mukadzi kkkk anotodaidzwa muchurch make kunzi mhamha kana mukadzi wake anoti amai kune murume wake😂
Kkk is this still God's word or populacy n self-exaltation....I just wonder😮
I think ,this guy must go and see a specialist.
havana kutumwa baba ava taakuvaziva
Marufu haana zvaanoziva angori kambwa kanohukura nzou ichingofamba isina pasi nekapopi kari kuhukura
Iro girazi ndere wine
Deborah was a woman but a King and a judge for Israel, God can use anyone, Ellen White is far much better than you Amai kkkkk in the sight of the Lord. What is wrong with the Sabbath, its for our own good.
you are so right
Munopenga vakanzi huyai kudare when hapasi matova ne more than 3 years akuda kuzochalenja now how come
😂😂😂😂 Joshua Maponga , idzo dzeku UK dzakati ngaauye akaramba wani Chiwenga ..infect Chiwenga mupengo busy preaching people
And Chiwenga is a noone to the likes of Makandiwa and Magaya
Marufu akuda kutsvaga mbiri naChiwenga
Kkkk
Usapusa iwe . Ko he used to debate with sda members Wani
@@cnmaths24 hapana mbiri yaarikuda arikutaura shoko same as Chiwenga
Looks like Chiwenga is the one looking for Pitbulls ndiye arikutsvaka mbiri. There are Evangelists in the SDA church if Mr Chiwenga didn’t know. That shows some lack of knowledge on his side. Also when a platform comes up where you have a chance to preach your truth there is no other better time to do that than pawatowana mukana ipapo. That’s how the gospel spreads. Also l have seen him debate Adventists on issues of the law on one or two videos that l can look for and post on the timeline . People who were not even pastors. Lastly Chiwenga has proved he is the only bonafide Man of God bcoz he has called almost all other preachers of the gospel charlatans. Not that he is wrong asi kuti anozarurirwa chokwadi ichocho namwari wake. Only he and his god know the truth
@@zezaicharamba very true he is a puppy trying to fight with pitbulls also.
Zvinhu zvacho hazvidi maqq ndezva mwari
Chiwenga anopenga uyo anoda relevance chete inga he is the one akati vanhu huyai now ava kuramba
Apostle must not waist his time
Makuisa matestimony pa video ye solar haaaaa shamwari
Apostle chiwenga has poor biblical hermenics that's why he refused to debate
God does not judge according to positions and hierarchy.The Jewish leaders made the same mistake and they failed even to recognize when Yeshua came . He came through Joseph who had no position and who was just a carpenter. So earthly position and popularity doesn't count in God's Kingdom. You speak like a pharisee
At your church they call you Amai, yet you are contradicting yourself uchiti hakuna message inobva kune munhukadzi.
The birth of Jesus Christ was first told to Mary iye Joseph asipo
But who did Mary preach to?
Chivenga anozvikudza iye kwete Mwari vaanoti ndiye waanoshumira. Zinhu zvaMwari hazvizodi zvazvo kudaro kunyanya uchinamata zvifananidzo zvaanotoziva kuti zvichapera zvakangooitawo baari under Elijah. Mark my words.. Self praise yake yakanyanyawo uyu.
Pane vanhu vanozvikudza kudarika masavadha iwe?
Chiwenga watya ndochikwadi mupe nguva unzwe zvaanazvo usangomhanya kushora
Ehe ataura kuti ndatya
Iwewe pachako ungade kuita conversation nemunhu anozviti conductor mundege since when ndege Ina conductor 😅😅😅😅😅 SDA akuna evangelist anzi bring someone who is better than muchinda uyo in SDA cult
In reality that's his class ,he must debate with him let's see because the same way he wants to debate with big names they are calling him a puppy because he is a puppy.
James 4 VS 10, who is he to say he can't face Marufu Jesus mingled with everyone, I tell you this Chiwenga guy is full of himself, with Marufu he won't stand, he will be ashamed, Chiwenga know nothing, we said it before, he will be ashamed uyo
Marufu anotoda isu zvedu vakaponeswa zuro kubva kuguva rinonzi SDA,one question chaiwo haagoni kuipindura uya.....ukawona munhu akasanganisa chipostori nechisavadha confusion yacho ma1,akabva mukutenda ngirozi achiuya kumunhu akazviti spirit of prophecy😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Apostle chiwenga has biblical hermenics that's why refused to debate
Apa apostle vakwata apa Marufu Howard na Mapoñga vanovatya zvekudaro.
He does not have good facts
😂😂😂.......Noone is immune to prophecy ....The lack of humility was the downfall of Chiwenga ...parizvino uyu haasisiri pambiri yaMwari.
Jethro ....taakuda kusvika paye patakati ..you will make a video soon disowning him ....Achaita zvekuti even you will say that's not it.......
Humility to who
The same reason whyMakandiwa doesn't want to debate Chiwenga means Amai is a nobody who is also trying to gain relevance 🤷
😂😂😂😂😂
1 Timothy 1 vs 7
Ane a lot of heresy mukudzidzisa kwake
Pride mkoma yakakuwandirai chero muchiziva henyu . No need to turn down invitations. Musawande nekuti munonyanyoziva zvakanyanya zvekusvika pakuti hamuchatare nevasina ruzivo . Apa murikutodzikisira vakadzi futi to prove kuti makadzungaira.
Inga ati Marufu ahwina
Standard yako yekunamata ichiri pa0% chaunogona kushora nekutuka vamwe tsvaga mwari nguva ichiripo usatidzidzise kushora nekutuka dzidzisa vanhu nezve humambo nehutsvene hwamwari
Unorwara iwe, empty heard Mwari anotsvagwa kupi, I feel for your wife and kids if you have any