The whole film is very very emotional. and even with such a very saddening ending, the most emotional part for me is where George said, I WILL FIND YOU! I WILL FIND YOU JONNY!
"I don't think there will be a day that goes by for the rest of my life when i won't be thinking of Johnny" - When Lala died a picture of johnny as a toddler was found as the only thing on her bedside table "he was the only one of us who was able to be himself" - all the other children suffered in adulthood. david looked for a mother figure, bullied his younger brother and referred to johnny as an animal and was a nazi sympathizer, bertie was a nervous stutterer, mary junior didn't know how to show affection to her own children they have said, henry/harry was known to be very lazy and lacking intelligence probably down to the fear developed as a child, he was known to faint as a child when his father stepped into a room and georgie became hooked on drugs having lost his childhood contacts of johnny and Lala who were his sources of love. georgie was a highly creative and academic boy who was fluent in five languages and played instruments. unlike the rest of the royals he didn't shoot or hunt and preferred swimming and skiing, was anti military preferring to play music and enjoy the jazz age that was his era. he was raised more with Lala then his elder brothers as he wasn't the heir, the spare or even the spare of the spare so had more freedom and therefore was more cultured and a warmer individual. he never gave up on johnny and always visited him and was incredibly hurt when he died. but he too couldn't cope with the regal life and the lack of affection without his nanny or brother around and depended on destructive things. georgie was the next one of the queens children to die in his late thirties, queen mary outlived her two youngest children. may they be unseperated in heaven
Remember, Queen Elizabeth the 2nd's father, King George the 6th aka Berite died a year before Queen Mary herself died. So she outlived three of her kids.
Lala was devastating but the Queen pushed me over the edge. Whenever you watch anything with royals you have to take their display with a pinch of salt, she's been forced to be a reserved figure her whole life. She can't display emotion, she doesn't know how because she's never been allowed. Her portrayal of that broken numbness you get with grief, you feel EVERYTHING apart from the loss of the one who has died - when she's rambling, 'I didn't think it would be Johnny... everything's changed... you did manage to remove the ivy.' It's not a lack of compassion, it's sheer shock at the fact he has gone and she's missed it. It's only when Lalla breaks down that she's kind of dragged out of this dazed state into reality. Lalla is telling her how Johnny made her feel as though she was the only one to experience it, I truly feel the Queen adored him but just did not know how to be the parent he needs, she was simply unable to carry the duty that came with being Queen with the duty of being a Mother. The Queen of England gets on her knees to clear a broken plate to save her son's nanny having to do it alone. That is not a compassionate-less woman, she's simply a product of her time.
Beth - There hasn't been a "Queen of England" since 1707. George V and Mary of Tech were the King and Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. And since 1922, this country has been the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland exist as well, mind!
The hardest part was the fact that his parents sent him away and didn't love him. They had to be forced to stay and watch him play his Trumpet and then he died
@@strugglingcollegestudent - The trouble is that you're watching this too much from a 21st century perspective. This scene was based in 1919 when attitudes in this country were different. George V and Mary of Teck WERE loving parents by all accounts, particularly George V, but at the time the royal family were seen as, and saw themselves as, figures who had to be seen as being physically and emotionally detached even behind closed doors because it was tradition. And it was the same in wider society in this country at the time. The UK hasn't always been the affectionate country that it is today. Also this is an adaptation, not a documentary. Parts of it would be exaggerated for dramatic purposes, so it's not 100% accurate. Also, epilepsy wasn't as understood then as it is today. I'm epileptic myself and if I'd been alive in the 1910s, I'd have been seen in a similar light even to myself because the awareness wasn't there at the time. And far from being shut out all his life, it's widely known that Prince John was front and centre of the royal family, especially after his father became King. There are about a million photographs of him, how could he have been cast aside? But when his seizures became more regular and stronger towards the end of his life he was moved to this outhouse in Norfolk where its quieter to keep them under control. How can anyone be expected to keep track of an epileptic child in a 700-odd room Palace in Central London at one of the most turbulent times in this country's history? It's not a case of "his parents didn't love him", it's a case of a completely different era.
I understand the criticism of Queen Mary’s behaviour- but read her letter to David after Johnnie’s death! That the true grief of a mother! Like a dagger through her soul! Rest well fair Johnnie! ❤
This story was tragic and very saddening. even worse that even his own mother saw him as an embarrassment. jonnies nanny was more of a mother than the Queen!
I saw this on TV last year and I cried at this part, which, because of my autism (Johnnie might have been autistic himself), is not something I normally do. I myself don't have epilepsy or seizures but I could relate to Johnnie, what with how very honest and cutely quirky he was.
The way they hid him away like he was a dirty secret. It’s maddening for me. My little brother is severely autistic and the idea that any family would treat a child that way makes me piss blood.
It’s mad knowing I have took time finding out who prince john was then he’s own family disowned him it hurts more knowing my sister suffers with epilepsy and autism just like johnny did and I could not imagine my mother and father turning their backs on her like thay did
As a loyal royal with a 💙 I’m ashamed with how johnny was treated my sister suffers with epilepsy and autism but back in the day it was normal I suppose
Such was 1919. Birth defects were to be ashamed of, people who were "different" were embarrassing, to be avoided. A king was so far beyond ignorance that we can't even visualize it now. Can we move forward now? Until last November, I thought so.
To be fair, George V was not intended to be King. He was the second oldest son. If his older brother didn't die, he wouldn't have been king. He wasn't really prepared to be king, let alone during a massive war. Especially with his cousins being brutally murdered. He had a lot going on.
@@strugglingcollegestudent I guess "moving forward" now involves convincing young boys that they're actually girls, giving hormone "therapy" to children without telling their parents, throwing parents into jail for not playing into the batshit insanity of using "the wrong pronouns" when referring to their children, and normalizing pedophilia by referring to degenerates as "minor attracted persons." If that's the standard of moving forward, I'd rather go backward.
@@mirjamsander9371 They just sent him away though, he didn't fit their image of a perfect little prince so they basically erased him from existence. Nobody knew about him except his nanny. Imagine how lonely that would be. And they couldn't even make time to visit him...
Stoicism used to be one of the great characteristics of the British people, not just the monarchy. The emotion’s there but is courageously hidden behind the stoicism. The emotional incontinence of today is mere self-indulgence.
i cant believe that's Miranda Richardson.... to see her in such a serious role... instead of a very childish Queen elizabeth in Blackadder.... doesnt even look like her...
The man who plays king George us one of the finest actors we have today
Dear lovely prince. Rest in peace!
Rip Johnny
The whole film is very very emotional. and even with such a very saddening ending, the most emotional part for me is where George said, I WILL FIND YOU! I WILL FIND YOU JONNY!
"I don't think there will be a day that goes by for the rest of my life when i won't be thinking of Johnny" - When Lala died a picture of johnny as a toddler was found as the only thing on her bedside table
"he was the only one of us who was able to be himself" - all the other children suffered in adulthood. david looked for a mother figure, bullied his younger brother and referred to johnny as an animal and was a nazi sympathizer, bertie was a nervous stutterer, mary junior didn't know how to show affection to her own children they have said, henry/harry was known to be very lazy and lacking intelligence probably down to the fear developed as a child, he was known to faint as a child when his father stepped into a room and georgie became hooked on drugs having lost his childhood contacts of johnny and Lala who were his sources of love. georgie was a highly creative and academic boy who was fluent in five languages and played instruments. unlike the rest of the royals he didn't shoot or hunt and preferred swimming and skiing, was anti military preferring to play music and enjoy the jazz age that was his era. he was raised more with Lala then his elder brothers as he wasn't the heir, the spare or even the spare of the spare so had more freedom and therefore was more cultured and a warmer individual. he never gave up on johnny and always visited him and was incredibly hurt when he died. but he too couldn't cope with the regal life and the lack of affection without his nanny or brother around and depended on destructive things. georgie was the next one of the queens children to die in his late thirties, queen mary outlived her two youngest children. may they be unseperated in heaven
annie howell Bertie died a year before Queen Mary died. So she outlived THREE of her children.
Remember, Queen Elizabeth the 2nd's father, King George the 6th aka Berite died a year before Queen Mary herself died. So she outlived three of her kids.
Lala was devastating but the Queen pushed me over the edge. Whenever you watch anything with royals you have to take their display with a pinch of salt, she's been forced to be a reserved figure her whole life. She can't display emotion, she doesn't know how because she's never been allowed. Her portrayal of that broken numbness you get with grief, you feel EVERYTHING apart from the loss of the one who has died - when she's rambling, 'I didn't think it would be Johnny... everything's changed... you did manage to remove the ivy.'
It's not a lack of compassion, it's sheer shock at the fact he has gone and she's missed it. It's only when Lalla breaks down that she's kind of dragged out of this dazed state into reality. Lalla is telling her how Johnny made her feel as though she was the only one to experience it, I truly feel the Queen adored him but just did not know how to be the parent he needs, she was simply unable to carry the duty that came with being Queen with the duty of being a Mother.
The Queen of England gets on her knees to clear a broken plate to save her son's nanny having to do it alone. That is not a compassionate-less woman, she's simply a product of her time.
Beth - There hasn't been a "Queen of England" since 1707. George V and Mary of Tech were the King and Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. And since 1922, this country has been the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland exist as well, mind!
that was so beautiful that I cried.
lovebird101 ........ We - Do This 'sort of thing' ..... SO WELL!
The hardest part was the fact that his parents sent him away and didn't love him. They had to be forced to stay and watch him play his Trumpet and then he died
@@strugglingcollegestudent - The trouble is that you're watching this too much from a 21st century perspective. This scene was based in 1919 when attitudes in this country were different. George V and Mary of Teck WERE loving parents by all accounts, particularly George V, but at the time the royal family were seen as, and saw themselves as, figures who had to be seen as being physically and emotionally detached even behind closed doors because it was tradition. And it was the same in wider society in this country at the time. The UK hasn't always been the affectionate country that it is today. Also this is an adaptation, not a documentary. Parts of it would be exaggerated for dramatic purposes, so it's not 100% accurate. Also, epilepsy wasn't as understood then as it is today. I'm epileptic myself and if I'd been alive in the 1910s, I'd have been seen in a similar light even to myself because the awareness wasn't there at the time. And far from being shut out all his life, it's widely known that Prince John was front and centre of the royal family, especially after his father became King. There are about a million photographs of him, how could he have been cast aside? But when his seizures became more regular and stronger towards the end of his life he was moved to this outhouse in Norfolk where its quieter to keep them under control. How can anyone be expected to keep track of an epileptic child in a 700-odd room Palace in Central London at one of the most turbulent times in this country's history? It's not a case of "his parents didn't love him", it's a case of a completely different era.
god bless prince john My sister also Suffers with epilepsy and autism. It’s shameful that he was right out of history.
I understand the criticism of Queen Mary’s behaviour- but read her letter to David after Johnnie’s death! That the true grief of a mother! Like a dagger through her soul! Rest well fair Johnnie! ❤
This story was tragic and very saddening.
even worse that even his own mother saw him as an embarrassment.
jonnies nanny was more of a mother than the Queen!
Ikr rip little prince... Johnny deserved better.
Well back then the royalties must not show their emotion in public.
I saw this on TV last year and I cried at this part, which, because of my autism (Johnnie might have been autistic himself), is not something I normally do. I myself don't have epilepsy or seizures but I could relate to Johnnie, what with how very honest and cutely quirky he was.
im the same, i dont cry often either with my autism... no matter how much i feel i must.
+The hard Tourist yeah...
The way they hid him away like he was a dirty secret. It’s maddening for me.
My little brother is severely autistic and the idea that any family would treat a child that way makes me piss blood.
It’s mad knowing I have took time finding out who prince john was then he’s own family disowned him it hurts more knowing my sister suffers with epilepsy and autism just like johnny did and I could not imagine my mother and father turning their backs on her like thay did
As a loyal royal with a 💙 I’m ashamed with how johnny was treated my sister suffers with epilepsy and autism but back in the day it was normal I suppose
You can almost feel them all, the king and queen and princes all trapped in their roles
*wiping tears* :(
Such was 1919. Birth defects were to be ashamed of, people who were "different" were embarrassing, to be avoided. A king was so far beyond ignorance that we can't even visualize it now. Can we move forward now? Until last November, I thought so.
It's from all that incest and inbreeding
To be fair, George V was not intended to be King. He was the second oldest son. If his older brother didn't die, he wouldn't have been king. He wasn't really prepared to be king, let alone during a massive war. Especially with his cousins being brutally murdered. He had a lot going on.
Speaking of November, yes we can now
@@strugglingcollegestudent I guess "moving forward" now involves convincing young boys that they're actually girls, giving hormone "therapy" to children without telling their parents, throwing parents into jail for not playing into the batshit insanity of using "the wrong pronouns" when referring to their children, and normalizing pedophilia by referring to degenerates as "minor attracted persons." If that's the standard of moving forward, I'd rather go backward.
@@annemary9680Amen
His nanny morned for him more than his own mother.
TheGreg131313 that's how it was in the royal family back then....and it's spelt mourned not morned. Just so you know.
The Queen was brought up to control her emotions.
I know
That was horrible. He grew up with his own parents not loving him
@@strugglingcollegestudent i wouldnt say so. i think they loved him in they own way, but they were constricted by their time and role
@@mirjamsander9371 They just sent him away though, he didn't fit their image of a perfect little prince so they basically erased him from existence. Nobody knew about him except his nanny. Imagine how lonely that would be.
And they couldn't even make time to visit him...
Such fine acting
Poor George, he had a tough run
The only one that truly mourned was LaLa. Everyone else seemed to shrug it off.
And George
And his mother
I am a loyal royal with a bigger 💙 than Harry after watching this I will not have a bad word said about the royals
Prince George and princess Mary and queen Mary of teck and king George V are going to miss her younger son and their younger brother prince John.😢😢
Too bad Queen Mary has to outlive two more of her children.
Not 2 it is 3 when Edward abdicated Queen Mary refused accept him as her son
Don’t call the crown I am a loyal royal 💙 QUEEN MARY was the woman what saved the royal family use thick cunts know nothing
@@yuvrajgupta571and what about Mary’s daughter have you forgot about her
You could see the queen just about to shatter
Prince Johnnie want able too see himself
Stoicism used to be one of the great characteristics of the British people, not just the monarchy.
The emotion’s there but is courageously hidden behind the stoicism.
The emotional incontinence of today is mere self-indulgence.
What’s the name of this movie?
The Lost Prince
It tells the story of Prince John the youngest brother of the future King George (the father of Queen Elizabeth II)
i cant believe that's Miranda Richardson.... to see her in such a serious role... instead of a very childish Queen elizabeth in Blackadder.... doesnt even look like her...
Renlentless Tourist her versatility is what makes her so brilliant and is why she's my idol
whats the name of the movie?
The lost prince on daily motion by bbc
@@yogitakapoor4901 thankyou!
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