She's so manipulative. Annette is the type of mom you just cut ties with and don't look back because that woman will NEVER understand basic boundaries.
@@quianaj499 absolutely! I had to cut my own mother off several years ago for the same behavior. After years of setting boundaries and her continuing to not acknowledge them was when I’d had enough.
@@jodidegyves5539 Yikes! I'm starting to do more research and I believe my mom also has many of these characteristics. I feel like I've always gotta walk on eggshells around her because I never know how she may respond or when she'll have a sudden change in mood. It's driving me nuts! I commend you for taking a stand like that. I'm sure it was for peace of mind and your own mental and emotional well being!
@@quianaj499 I know exactly how you feel. Walking on eggshells all the time. Never knowing what mood you could be walking into. I never thought I would be strong enough to face her and calmly walk away but I did it and my life has been so much more peaceful since. I hope that you find the strength you need to receive your own peace, whether that means walking away from your mom or finally being able to get her to receive the help she needs. Be strong!!
She just makes me angry. She had her wedding, leave them alone. Did you not raise him to have a backbone? Stop blaming poor Justina. I just want to slap the smirk, know it all look off her face. 😡😤😡
Exactly if it was not so annoying it be comical that here Jason is teachings his daughter whose potty training and his mother that sometimes in life your gonna hear the word no your not always going to get your way. But yet it’s the grandmother who throwing the tantrum because she being told there not getting married where she wants them to
EXACTLY! I think the mother is in denial that her son is now a grown man and another woman could possibly know him (as a man) better than his mother....which is exactly how it's supposed to be. Some mom's feel a sense of guilt or loss when they realize that the man they thought they knew was actually a projected image of the boy that she raised. It can be hard for smothers to grasp that all the years of manipulation could be being undone . "I thought he'd be mine forever" mentality. Rejoice! You've raised a good man. Whether that's a product of your raising him or a product of him choosing not to be the person his parents were, he's a good egg. Now you get to relax and watch him enjoy fatherhood. Some grandparents steal the joy of parenting away from their children because they are selfish and want things their way.
I'm actually extremely proud of Jason right now. He's defending his wife standing up to his mother setting boundaries this is extremely healthy I hope he continues it
I agree if it was not so annoying it be comical that here Jason is teachings his daughter whose potty training and his mother that sometimes in life your gonna hear the word no your not always going to get your way. But yet it’s the grandmother who throwing the tantrum.
I’m actually amazed how mature and emotionally intelligent Justina is towards the mom. The mom is acting so crazy… it’s actually kinda scary if I can be honest💀
Not many men enmeshed with mommy are good husbands. The nicest guys but manipulated their whole lives. Passive unusually and make his wife deal with the mother in laws. There are fen zero boundaries in his family. If the entire family ,y is enmeshed, they send sibling proxies, so daughters in law get in on it too. It’s hard if mother is doing that, but if the unmarried daughters who Aldi think and act like they should still be having him sacrifice and go around his wife as if he weren’t married, is enraging if he’s passive. Be sure he’s fully emancipated from the family of origin and his loyalty will lie with you first, and even second and third. They aren’t entitled to invade the first circle of intimacy in his life no matter what his family is implying and guilting him into. If the mother has a disable husband or she’s a widow when you marry, this can be very intense.
6:26 : Annette: "It's not natural for a son to be against his own mother." Me: "It's not natural for a mother to keep intruding in her son's marriage."
On the contrary! It is not at all natural for a grown man to have to be against his wife to do the will of his mother!! I'm so cringey about her I couldn't even watch further when she had booked the "couple's massage"... I'm was a single mom to my son too, but never would I ever intrude myself upon him!
Grandparents should not go crazy of free for all. As a grandma I follow my children's boundaries but tip a toe into grandma territory which they allow because I respect them as parents.
@@BrickCityEllA it is up to you to set boundaries, explain why you do not want all the toys bought and enforce it. Explain all toys that she continues to buy ....stays at her house. The breastfeeding and formula was totally disrespect and wrong health wise. She prob felt the need to "fed her grandson" but could of given him plain water and I feel you would of been ok with water. Sounds like you both need a parenting grandparent class. It basically helps set boundaries etc with your mom. See if you have some options in your area and to get her to actually go and learn something.....😅🤣 tell her the class is for you 😁
My thoughts exactly she has the patience of a saint cause I couldn’t handle all that! Her niceness and calmness throughout her MIL rant(s) is unmatched!
This woman fears abandonment. She needs therapy. Its obvious that she derives all of her self worth from what she perceives as her "role" in her sons' life. She is pitiful.
It’s the parents choice to decide if their daughter gets only one toy for potty training not the grandmother’s choice to get her granddaughter another toy
Woman that actively raise their sons to be a Mama's boy are really raising emotional husband's because they probably never received love from men which most likely comes from daddy issues. So technically this mom sees his fiance as the wh0re that stole her man.
@@BrickCityEllA it's not. There are a few husbands on this show, and each one of them looks beaten the hell down. At that point they let the mothers do what they want so they won't bother the husbands. They've checked out you can tell.
Don't ever marry a mama's boy. I have drilled that into my 25 year old daughter's head her whole life. The marriage will not survive. Been there, done that.
@@beaglemama7928 it's devastating when the son gets married. While it's great they find a life partner, it can be like a death for the boy's mother. I have grieved but not let it show. My son and I were very close for years. He makes sure we visit him each two to three weeks but a mother can't always say what she wants to say. It's the life cycle I know but it's still deeply sad. My son sometimes rings me in his lunch hour from work though if we need to discuss anything which is good, but I'm not an interfering mother. Just saying there are two sides to things. I was/am happy with whoever my sons choose.
@@beaglemama7928 .... Well my son had stayed at home until he was 30 (doing his degrees) so I missed all the chats we had. I like my daughter in law though and he chose well. I'd been alone since 12 since losing my mother and not too long after my father so it was devastating. I have a big section too and my son used to help me with jobs now I have to do quite a few alone. He's kind though and I visit him regularly. (I won't say why but the wedding was a nightmare, nothing of my making). We have a beautiful grandchild though these days. I count my blessings. Got to see my other son married off now ha. He came close once.
Oh wow. Thank you. I've never had the word but incest to describe my mother in law & brother in laws relationship. Now I do. She had picked staying in a hotel room than with son over staying with her alzheimers husband and the rest of the family at a rental house for a week ofvacation. When we went out to dinner, my daughter, her granddaughter wanted to sit by nana, which would be between nana & steve. Nana/MIL said ,but I want to sit by Steve. He's 50 something years old and lives with you!!!
omg how dare this so called mother say such stupid words, like. .. oh your hurting my feelings 😁she is over bearing to talk to... mother keep yr big red face out of these beautiful couples wedding .. if they want yr advice they will ask you red face mama lol
He really isn't doing a great job though. This is advanced levels of disordered behaviour. This is the only clip i've seen of...this couple, so I don't know how it ends up but I bet it's "not great". This man is going to need serious therapy to work through all the manipulative incestuous behaviour his mother has done for his entire life.
I agree it’s ironic to me that the grandmother is doing exactly what they are trying to teach their daughter not to do which throw a tantrum when you don’t get your way.
Mother of the groom: “I don’t think it’s natural for a son to be against his mother” Me: “I don’t think it’s natural for a son to always agree with his mother even when she’s wrong”
@@uk9383 The bible was made by goat herders 2000 years ago, and then revised many more than a dozen times over the years. It is NOT a book to take relationship advice from. :|
@@razornz007 do you think the wives and girlfriends of these controlling possessive mothers look very happy do you think the relationships look very stable and like they work very well… there’s a reason why.
Exactly and it's not like they're making it unfair but they shouldn't have to change their minds and adjust to everything she wants bc she's unreasonable and in her mind it's her wedding and that's not reality.
Ooof. She admitted her goal is to win. She clearly doesn’t care about the couple and will keep putting her son in tough positions. Keep her far away from this wedding!!
I truly admire this girl and the way she’s able to stand her ground!!! Def taking notes I need to learn how to do this for the sake of my own situation 😩
Justina has so much anxiety when she has to deal with MIL. She keeps looking away as they're talking. Let's hope that Jason takes that job offer in a different state otherwise there is only gloom & doom ahead for these two!
I totally agree with you. you can tell she is walking on egg shells the entire time she speaks with the monster in law, yet a very strong young woman who is firmly holding her boundaries! very proud of her.
They must move away as far as they can, from this totally mad narcotics mama... she needs to get her face fixed first keep glowing beetroot red wen she can't get her own way ,London. Maybe lol
"Justina's being really unreasonable" LOL she means that she herself is unreasonable. The venue is decided by the COUPLE. Not the mom. The parenting is decided by the PARENTS, not grandparents.
The girl is much more patient that I could be. I was so glad to here her set clear boundaries with that crazy mom. She is so intrusive and wants to speak for her son, which is ironically what she accuses the wife of doing.
Exactly it’s ironic that they’re trying to teach there toddler daughter that sometime you don’t get what you want and her she is pouting and behaving like a toddler who not being giving what she wants.
Mom....... back off. Relax. Take a breather. It's OK to give people space. Let your children make their own decisions. Or you will lose your son, wife, grandchild. You ain't gonna win.
This reminds me of my mother-in-law. She buys our son clothes and toys, and she will use that against us. If we dont agree with her, she will call us ungrateful and remind us how much she has bought…
My MIL tried this as well, sending 2 or 3 large boxes each week, (after moving halfway across the country to get away). I asked her nicely, then told her firmly to stop but of course she didn't. Started refusing packages ... she eventually stopped.
Controlling by material things it doesn’t work on mature people just children. And it’s confusing if my parents don’t get it and the grandparents are it’s just uncomfortable and a recipe for a spoiled about the be on Dr. Phil child
At this rate, grandmas boundary stomping and insulting of the daughter in law, is gonna make it so she’s not allowed to see her granddaughter or even be invited to the wedding.
@@futuristicvibes2643 What if the wife have kids from a previous marriage? Why tf would i help somebody else's mother? I could help my mother and my kids instead. If my wife messes with my mother, il mess with her mother back harder. Just like i won't like an other man calling my mother ' his wife ' , that's my fking mother first before being an other piece of garbage's wife. Also, i show my finger to the one who wrote the bible. He is saying to put your spouse before everybody else, including your kids from a previous marriage. A mother should put her kids first, not her muh husband. Not everything is about husband or wife. A relation between mother child, for exemple should be stronger than that the relation she have with her ' muh husband '.
I’m going to win over this venue? But on the strip, for her SON and all HIS buddies. It’s like she’s picturing the wedding of HERS AND HER SONS dreams. Also, Vegas strip over a beautiful outside venue? Someone please tell me how that’s traditional and not tacky? Absolutely INSANE,
Justina is a Saint for keeping herself so poised during every interaction with her soon to be Narcissist-in-law, er I mean "mother-in-law". Everything is about the narcissist and how it affects themselves and I agree it is not natural for a son to be against his mother, except when the narcissist mother is WRONG on so many levels.
You Americans seem to have a dysfunctional idea of how parent/adult child relationships should or shouldn't be. Is it the christofascism? Or maybe it's the treating people as if they're kids up until they're 21? A combination maybe. That's not normal for the rest of the world. It's baffling. And I hope your culture NEVER spreads to our shores in that way. I don't have a great relationship with my parents, but I know damn well that I am the arbiter of my life (as much as is allowed under capitalism), and my mother doesn't get to make choices about my life. The infantilisation of American 18-21 year olds is fucked up. Old enough to be killed in a foreign country because it has oil that America wants, but not old enough to buy alcohol? Absurd. Gross even.
I’ve never seen someone use “I feel” statements in such a selfish way. She’s so manipulative and is upset her son is finally being a good father and husband to his new family
I won the mother in law lottery! She accepted me from day one. Loved me! There was never any tension. We lost her a few months ago and we all miss her terribly! She was nothing like this and she raised my husband without his dad! For a long time it was just him and her.
that must be nice to have a wonderful MIL! i’m sorry she passed away. mine hates me because i’ve encouraged my boyfriend to set boundaries with her and his sister.
Her tears are sooo manipulative! She didn't get her way so she cried like a baby. Later on she has the nerve to say that Justina's being unreasonable! No lady- the only unreasonable one is YOU! Then she whines about being left out with 🤦♀️ ZERO comprehension as to why they're leaving her out. She constantly says "I feel...I feel...I feel" as if it's all about her. It's not a summer camp wedding, it's a wedding at an outdoor venue. Huge difference. The only 2 people standing at the altar and getting married are the bride and groom. It's THEIR wedding! I'm so glad to finally see a son who actually stands up to his mother and backs up his partner. These are the kind of couples that I want to see more of and root for.
Exactly she doing what they’re trying to teach there daughter whose training not to do. if it was not so annoying it be comical that here Jason is teachings his daughter whose potty training and his mother that sometimes in life your gonna hear the word no your not always going to get your way. But yet it’s the grandmother who throwing the tantrum.
"You're entitled." The mom is projecting so much onto the wife. Poor mom is trying so hard to be mature and communicative in front of her young daughter and in public.
The Grandma needs to have respect for what the parents want. Not what she wants to do. I had to learn with my grandkids at the parents said no it was no
She would have gotten the "know your place" and "I think it's time for you to step down and let us live how we want" speech from me and her teary eyes wouldn't make me budge
It trips me out that Annette really showed us through her actions that she expects her needs to be placed before her granddaughter’s needs. That’s really weird.
It's Jason & Justina's wedding. NOT Jason's Mom's wedding. This will be a day that Jason & Justina will treasure and always remember for the rest of their lives. If they want to plan a summer camp wedding, then Jason's Mom needs to accept their choice, and back off. It's NOT all about her. Wishing Jason & Justina a very happy life together. ❤
Using how she took care of them before they had their baby, is gross. You do good things out if yohr heart and not to use to hold over their heads later on, to manipulate the situation...my MIL does this too
This grandma is incredibly manipulative and toxic. She is also using tears to manipulate. I can't imagine having a mother in law like that. "She's way off base when she says I am pushy... I am still going to win a Las Vegas wedding venue."
This fiance is a keeper she knows exactly how to deal with manipulative and chaotic people and she has a great voice and way to deal with this monster in laws antics😅🙄 prayers for the happy couple❤️
Though the grandma has done a lot for them, that doesn't give her the right to dictate what they do for their wedding and how they raise their child. I hope they don't cave to her and remain as classy as they are. The grandma's job is done. She had her day and now it's their turn to decide for themselves in their lives! Sheesh! I'd like to see more on how this goes...
I need her to give some advice and tips and tricks bc if i ever encounter ppl like the mother i need to learn to keep my cool and not lash and cuss out
shes such a cry baby and thinks she is the one getting married . Like no hunny its not ur happiness and ur special day . And second off all Jason is being a good dad . He is teaching his daughter a lesson that money does not always grow on trees
I spoil my grandchildren, son in law, and daughter in law, along with my own kids. But when they say enough I back off. I told them to let me know if I go to far and that I do believe that my children's families out rank me and my husband. And my son in law asked us to move in with them...so step back yet be there at the same time.
I totally agree! My son is getting married in May and I adore my DIL. I cringe at her vision of her wedding, however, but I have zipped my lips and smiled. It is not my wedding! I'm just happy my son has picked the perfect one for him, however much I may be cringing through the actual day lol
This happens in all relationships the in-laws are always the hill to overcome,the bible say''a man shall leave his parents home and marry''it didn't say bring the parents along.
As soon as I turned 16 (same with my husband actually) I was left to get on with it, it’s great not having in laws interfering in our marriage or how we parent our children! I would be so angry haha
I mean I don't agree. I'm not married but in my last long term relationship i loved his family and his mom was kind to me and always supported us. Healthy in laws exist lol
I get the gma wanting to spoil her gdaughter, but the whole "I don't tell her no" is the wrong kind of spoiling. As a gma, gpa, aunt/uncle you want to spoil them but also always keep in mind their future well-being. We already know what kind of adults spoiled kids become.
Grandmas like that annoy me to no end. Lady, he is your son, but he is her spouse. You're inserting yourself where you do not belong. And saying "That really hurts me" doesn't mean you get to have your way. You're sick. I'm embarrassed you're of my generation.
Getting the toy isn't the problem. It's undermining the rules that her son and daughter in law are placing to try to instill good habits for the future. I mean she could maybe wait to buy whatever it is and give it to her another time. Although kids that age cha ge their minds 100 times a day so she probably won't even remember she wanted something. I think mediation between the three of them is a good way to stay unbiased while also holding all of them accountable for what's happening. With that being said...I really wanna go to a toy store now. 😂
I could never deal with a MIL like this!!! Maybe if he was like the perfect man for me then I could maybe swallow it a little bit, but I’d still speak my mind. You should never have to walk on eggshells with your MIL! It’s insane
Annette your behavior is so shocking to me..His wife comes first, and then his child....You are a married women for a long time...Take all your attention that you give to your son, and pay attention to your own husband....Take a trip to Vegas just you and your husband, and have a great time...
Only mom and wife talking is stupid. The mom thinks her son isn’t making his own choices but it’s not the wife’s job to convince mom about her sons choices... mom and Jason should be having this conversation.
Could you not bicker and fight and cry infront of your 2 year old when this is supposed to be her reward for doing good with potty training. Annettes ovaries dried up years ago, she needs to stop trying to be a mother to her granddaughter. Annettes the biggest manipulator and drama-cow, Jesus.
Finally a real man! Good for him defending his and his wife’s parenting decisions and knowing how to set and enforce a boundary. If my ex had - we would still be married.
She's so manipulative. Annette is the type of mom you just cut ties with and don't look back because that woman will NEVER understand basic boundaries.
Are these signs of narcissism or that too extreme of a label for her behavior? I couldn't really tell for sure
@@quianaj499 absolutely! I had to cut my own mother off several years ago for the same behavior. After years of setting boundaries and her continuing to not acknowledge them was when I’d had enough.
@@quianaj499 Definitely narcissism.
@@jodidegyves5539 Yikes! I'm starting to do more research and I believe my mom also has many of these characteristics. I feel like I've always gotta walk on eggshells around her because I never know how she may respond or when she'll have a sudden change in mood. It's driving me nuts! I commend you for taking a stand like that. I'm sure it was for peace of mind and your own mental and emotional well being!
@@quianaj499 I know exactly how you feel. Walking on eggshells all the time. Never knowing what mood you could be walking into. I never thought I would be strong enough to face her and calmly walk away but I did it and my life has been so much more peaceful since. I hope that you find the strength you need to receive your own peace, whether that means walking away from your mom or finally being able to get her to receive the help she needs. Be strong!!
Unbelievable. She didn’t get her way and then picks a fight about the venue. It is so embarrassing to watch her.
And then cries about it.
She just makes me angry. She had her wedding, leave them alone. Did you not raise him to have a backbone? Stop blaming poor Justina. I just want to slap the smirk, know it all look off her face. 😡😤😡
Maam this is NOT your wedding! On the strip 🤦 why dont you have a wedding for yourself there.
She’s literally like a spoiled child!
Exactly if it was not so annoying it be comical that here Jason is teachings his daughter whose potty training and his mother that sometimes in life your gonna hear the word no your not always going to get your way. But yet it’s the grandmother who throwing the tantrum because she being told there not getting married where she wants them to
“Jason feels like he has to defend you and your thoughts” - like he should, that’s his WIFE!!!
Exactly what I was thinking.
Riight!!! Sounds like shes salty her son isnt doing it for her🥴
EXACTLY! I think the mother is in denial that her son is now a grown man and another woman could possibly know him (as a man) better than his mother....which is exactly how it's supposed to be. Some mom's feel a sense of guilt or loss when they realize that the man they thought they knew was actually a projected image of the boy that she raised. It can be hard for smothers to grasp that all the years of manipulation could be being undone . "I thought he'd be mine forever" mentality. Rejoice! You've raised a good man. Whether that's a product of your raising him or a product of him choosing not to be the person his parents were, he's a good egg. Now you get to relax and watch him enjoy fatherhood. Some grandparents steal the joy of parenting away from their children because they are selfish and want things their way.
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Bingo!!!!
I'm actually extremely proud of Jason right now. He's defending his wife standing up to his mother setting boundaries this is extremely healthy I hope he continues it
He’s the only one on this show that actually says no to his mom and says this is our decision and that’s it. I like that!
I was proud of him for this one too. He did a great job here.
I agree if it was not so annoying it be comical that here Jason is teachings his daughter whose potty training and his mother that sometimes in life your gonna hear the word no your not always going to get your way. But yet it’s the grandmother who throwing the tantrum.
I’m actually amazed how mature and emotionally intelligent Justina is towards the mom. The mom is acting so crazy… it’s actually kinda scary if I can be honest💀
Yes scary and dangerous seen people do things to people and they act just like this.
Yes exactly ❤️ either Justina had some really great parents that instilled this poise and confidence in her or she raised herself very well.
Not many men enmeshed with mommy are good husbands. The nicest guys but manipulated their whole lives. Passive unusually and make his wife deal with the mother in laws. There are fen zero boundaries in his family. If the entire family ,y is enmeshed, they send sibling proxies, so daughters in law get in on it too. It’s hard if mother is doing that, but if the unmarried daughters who Aldi think and act like they should still be having him sacrifice and go around his wife as if he weren’t married, is enraging if he’s passive. Be sure he’s fully emancipated from the family of origin and his loyalty will lie with you first, and even second and third. They aren’t entitled to invade the first circle of intimacy in his life no matter what his family is implying and guilting him into. If the mother has a disable husband or she’s a widow when you marry, this can be very intense.
Why not just offer to pay for the one toy...? That's what my mom would do.
6:26 : Annette: "It's not natural for a son to be against his own mother."
Me: "It's not natural for a mother to keep intruding in her son's marriage."
“If Jason had a say” hello, if he had a say they likely would be at a justice of the peace and never see YOU again🤨
The need to be on Dr.phil
On the contrary!
It is not at all natural for a grown man to have to be against his wife to do the will of his mother!!
I'm so cringey about her I couldn't even watch further when she had booked the "couple's massage"...
I'm was a single mom to my son too, but never would I ever intrude myself upon him!
Just seems like emotional incest tbh
If the wife have kids from a previous marriage, i will stand with my mother. Why tf would i help somebody else's mother instead of mine?
It's up to the parents to set the boundaries and not the grandparents.
Grandparents should not go crazy of free for all. As a grandma I follow my children's boundaries but tip a toe into grandma territory which they allow because I respect them as parents.
@@mylifeinanutshell6931 that's awesome! It's so important for grandparents to respect boundaries!
Yeh, it's called discipline. Something this lady knows nothing about
@@BrickCityEllA it is up to you to set boundaries, explain why you do not want all the toys bought and enforce it. Explain all toys that she continues to buy ....stays at her house. The breastfeeding and formula was totally disrespect and wrong health wise. She prob felt the need to "fed her grandson" but could of given him plain water and I feel you would of been ok with water. Sounds like you both need a parenting grandparent class. It basically helps set boundaries etc with your mom. See if you have some options in your area and to get her to actually go and learn something.....😅🤣 tell her the class is for you 😁
Preach
Sheesh, the emotional manipulation is wild.
That mother-in-law is definitely a covert narcissist🤮
Yess just what i think
@@teamcougars Covert? She's about as subtle as a freight train!
Yep. You can see the wheels turning in her head to try to stay a step ahead.
@@nhugh23 lol I totally agree!!
Justina handles a narcissist so well. Natural born care taker. Makes you wonder what she dealt with growing up.
My thoughts exactly she has the patience of a saint cause I couldn’t handle all that! Her niceness and calmness throughout her MIL rant(s) is unmatched!
This woman fears abandonment. She needs therapy. Its obvious that she derives all of her self worth from what she perceives as her "role" in her sons' life. She is pitiful.
It’s the parents choice to decide if their daughter gets only one toy for potty training not the grandmother’s choice to get her granddaughter another toy
Facts
They should have left grandma at home.
@A H 🤣🤣
Yes! Please respect parents choices.
So the sister who "spilled the beans"" is added to the bitch list as well. She had a good teacher the mum.....
I don't understand how petty his mom is she acts like she's the one getting married
it's because she has no real friends
Woman that actively raise their sons to be a Mama's boy are really raising emotional husband's because they probably never received love from men which most likely comes from daddy issues. So technically this mom sees his fiance as the wh0re that stole her man.
@@sammagny6548 😳
@@BrickCityEllA sad part is that she has one.
@@BrickCityEllA it's not. There are a few husbands on this show, and each one of them looks beaten the hell down. At that point they let the mothers do what they want so they won't bother the husbands. They've checked out you can tell.
This girl is very good at setting boundaries and standing by them. As a young woman her age, I could learn a thing or two! Good inspiration👌
Don't ever marry a mama's boy. I have drilled that into my 25 year old daughter's head her whole life.
The marriage will not survive.
Been there, done that.
@@beaglemama7928 it's devastating when the son gets married. While it's great they find a life partner,
it can be like a death for the boy's mother. I have grieved but not let it show. My son and I were very close for years. He makes sure we visit him each two to three weeks but a mother can't always say what she wants to say. It's the life cycle I know but it's still deeply sad. My son sometimes rings me in his lunch hour from work though if we need to discuss anything which is good, but I'm not an interfering mother. Just saying there are two sides to things. I was/am happy with whoever my sons choose.
@@earnold1896 it is not "devastating" when your son gets married.
It's a joyous occasion for most mothers😂
@@beaglemama7928 .... Well my son had stayed at home until he was 30 (doing his degrees) so I missed all the chats we had. I like my daughter in law though and he chose well. I'd been alone since 12 since losing my mother and not too long after my father so it was devastating. I have a big section too and my son used to help me with jobs now I have to do quite a few alone. He's kind though and I visit him regularly. (I won't say why but the wedding was a nightmare, nothing of my making).
We have a beautiful grandchild though these days. I count my blessings.
Got to see my other son married off now ha. He came close once.
@@earnold1896 oh lord - that attitude is so wack. Sorry to insult, but my dad's mother was absolutely possessive and intrusive. It's traumatic.
I respect Justina so much for how good of a communicator she is, especially having difficult conversations. 👏
His mom says that "this backyard summer camp wedding is not working for me". Well good thing it's not your wedding then! 🙄
Covert/emotional incest is disgusting and Hes doing a great job finally speaking up against his mom but shes out of control.
Definitely, it feels like the mother is legitimately in romantic love with her own son
Oh wow. Thank you. I've never had the word but incest to describe my mother in law & brother in laws relationship. Now I do. She had picked staying in a hotel room than with son over staying with her alzheimers husband and the rest of the family at a rental house for a week ofvacation. When we went out to dinner, my daughter, her granddaughter wanted to sit by nana, which would be between nana & steve. Nana/MIL said ,but I want to sit by Steve. He's 50 something years old and lives with you!!!
omg how dare this so called mother say such stupid words, like. .. oh your hurting my feelings 😁she is over bearing to talk to... mother keep yr big red face out of these beautiful couples wedding .. if they want yr advice they will ask you red face mama lol
He really isn't doing a great job though.
This is advanced levels of disordered behaviour. This is the only clip i've seen of...this couple, so I don't know how it ends up but I bet it's "not great". This man is going to need serious therapy to work through all the manipulative incestuous behaviour his mother has done for his entire life.
Finally a man on this show is checking his mom. Wish they were on this season.
they're not on this season because Jason stood up to her. Not much to see anymore. Still not married.
@@npierce1801 thanks for the update!
Selfish Grandmother.
The granddaughter suffers.
Strong parents.
SHAME on the Grandmother!!’
@@npierce1801 hope they will be okay.
Hope Granny is in a terrible nursing home
@@npierce1801 that's too bad because they felt the most real where everyone else seems so fake.
Their parenting skills for rewarding and giving structure I love that !!
I agree it’s ironic to me that the grandmother is doing exactly what they are trying to teach their daughter not to do which throw a tantrum when you don’t get your way.
This grandma does not love her son and granddaugher, its all about her making them love her
Yes! That control aspect is what she loves. Rather scary.
I know she ain't call the bride unreasonable about HER OWN WEDDING
Bride: "We're gonna get what we want for our wedding."
Mother of the groom: "That hurts me"
Mother of the groom: “I don’t think it’s natural for a son to be against his mother”
Me: “I don’t think it’s natural for a son to always agree with his mother even when she’s wrong”
@@leiajones852 in the bible it says that a son needs to LEAVE his original family especially his mother and lean into his wife. Lol
@@leiajones852 "I don't think its natural for an idiot to manipulate her son like a puppet to get what she wants,"
@@uk9383 The bible was made by goat herders 2000 years ago, and then revised many more than a dozen times over the years.
It is NOT a book to take relationship advice from. :|
@@razornz007 do you think the wives and girlfriends of these controlling possessive mothers look very happy do you think the relationships look very stable and like they work very well… there’s a reason why.
When a grown woman says, "It's not fair", she still has some growing to do.
That’s when you tell her boo-hoo lifes unfair get over it
I was waiting for her to stamp her little feet and pound her little fists on the table. Sheesh!
That was my thought exactly!!
Exactly and it's not like they're making it unfair but they shouldn't have to change their minds and adjust to everything she wants bc she's unreasonable and in her mind it's her wedding and that's not reality.
Eh
Ooof. She admitted her goal is to win. She clearly doesn’t care about the couple and will keep putting her son in tough positions. Keep her far away from this wedding!!
Far away from their lives in general
Fr she just wants what she wants no matter the cost
Yeah the mother is aggressive.
That woman has no boundaries. If she keeps this up, she's going to lose her granddaughter, son and daughter in law.
I truly admire this girl and the way she’s able to stand her ground!!!
Def taking notes I need to learn how to do this for the sake of my own situation 😩
Mother law is a bulldozer. She is way out of line. “Hurt” feelings are such a manipulation.
Agreed. She plays the victim so, well.
She played that hurt-feelings act so well she could win an Academy Award.
I think these are somewhat scripted
Period
Justina has so much anxiety when she has to deal with MIL. She keeps looking away as they're talking. Let's hope that Jason takes that job offer in a different state otherwise there is only gloom & doom ahead for these two!
I totally agree with you. you can tell she is walking on egg shells the entire time she speaks with the monster in law, yet a very strong young woman who is firmly holding her boundaries! very proud of her.
@@hannahpadfield3142 yes.....I hope she stays strong! She's got her hands full with this pain in the ass MIL!
i do hope they move away
They must move away as far as they can, from this totally mad narcotics mama... she needs to get her face fixed first keep glowing beetroot red wen she can't get her own way ,London. Maybe lol
I feel like even if he takes this job relocation, the mom will move and buy a house near them
"Justina's being really unreasonable" LOL she means that she herself is unreasonable. The venue is decided by the COUPLE. Not the mom. The parenting is decided by the PARENTS, not grandparents.
Notice how she says "we".
Simple and this grandma refuses to get it
Noo grandma is unreasonable
“Jason feels like he has to defend you and its not fair” YOURE RIGHT ITS NOT FAIR YOU FORCE YOUR SON TO DEFEND HIS WIFE AGAINST YOU.
The girl is much more patient that I could be. I was so glad to here her set clear boundaries with that crazy mom. She is so intrusive and wants to speak for her son, which is ironically what she accuses the wife of doing.
Exactly it’s ironic that they’re trying to teach there toddler daughter that sometime you don’t get what you want and her she is pouting and behaving like a toddler who not being giving what she wants.
Mom....... back off. Relax. Take a breather. It's OK to give people space. Let your children make their own decisions. Or you will lose your son, wife, grandchild. You ain't gonna win.
Wow they are so tolerant , the mum is very good at crying on cue . Good luck x
I couldn't believe how calm and tolerant this couple was, the wife especially.
Just like my mil. Although I'm not as nice as this chick lolol
Yep, manipulation at it's finest. Exhibit A.
Grandma needs a passion and a friend of her own
YES!!!
True, but who wants that gig? Not me! 😵
@@hollyhock3945 it’s called a group home
@@animebrat76 I want no part of that group! 😵
Now who’s up for that job?
Her red cherry face😂 she was holding back turning into the she hulk she truly is the whole entire time
This reminds me of my mother-in-law. She buys our son clothes and toys, and she will use that against us. If we dont agree with her, she will call us ungrateful and remind us how much she has bought…
My MIL tried this as well, sending 2 or 3 large boxes each week, (after moving halfway across the country to get away).
I asked her nicely, then told her firmly to stop but of course she didn't.
Started refusing packages ... she eventually stopped.
Controlling by material things it doesn’t work on mature people just children. And it’s confusing if my parents don’t get it and the grandparents are it’s just uncomfortable and a recipe for a spoiled about the be on Dr. Phil child
My MIL is the exact same way too. It's pure emotion abuse.
At this rate, grandmas boundary stomping and insulting of the daughter in law, is gonna make it so she’s not allowed to see her granddaughter or even be invited to the wedding.
Worst case scenario, there won't be a wedding. Maybe Justina will get tired of it.
Grandma You Are beyond pushy
“Jason feels like he has to defend you” ma’am that’s his wife and the mother of his child💀
Just because you have a child with somoene that does not make that person family with you. That person is still a stranger.
@@chrisbab6553 bruh what💀
@@Iraxxty it's actually the case ✨
@@chrisbab6553 Ok you sir should never marry if you’d consider your wife a stranger 😂
@@futuristicvibes2643 What if the wife have kids from a previous marriage? Why tf would i help somebody else's mother? I could help my mother and my kids instead. If my wife messes with my mother, il mess with her mother back harder. Just like i won't like an other man calling my mother ' his wife ' , that's my fking mother first before being an other piece of garbage's wife. Also, i show my finger to the one who wrote the bible. He is saying to put your spouse before everybody else, including your kids from a previous marriage. A mother should put her kids first, not her muh husband. Not everything is about husband or wife. A relation between mother child, for exemple should be stronger than that the relation she have with her ' muh husband '.
I’m going to win over this venue? But on the strip, for her SON and all HIS buddies. It’s like she’s picturing the wedding of HERS AND HER SONS dreams. Also, Vegas strip over a beautiful outside venue? Someone please tell me how that’s traditional and not tacky? Absolutely INSANE,
When I imagine a Vegas strip wedding, I imagine people who just want the quick wedding then go about to hit the casinos.
My thoughts exactly.
She’s a horror show!
Maybe that's the point, mom doesn't like the bride clearly so she wants this cheap Vegas wedding to kind of symbolize how she feels about the marriage
This show is borderline incest with these moms.
She emotionally married to her son. Disgusting
Justina is so pure and kind. I wish her & Jason the best.
It cracks me up how red her face gets when she isn't getting her way!
Almost purple amazing
Like a bratty child
Justina is a Saint for keeping herself so poised during every interaction with her soon to be Narcissist-in-law, er I mean "mother-in-law". Everything is about the narcissist and how it affects themselves and I agree it is not natural for a son to be against his mother, except when the narcissist mother is WRONG on so many levels.
Narc across the board
You Americans seem to have a dysfunctional idea of how parent/adult child relationships should or shouldn't be.
Is it the christofascism? Or maybe it's the treating people as if they're kids up until they're 21? A combination maybe.
That's not normal for the rest of the world.
It's baffling. And I hope your culture NEVER spreads to our shores in that way.
I don't have a great relationship with my parents, but I know damn well that I am the arbiter of my life (as much as is allowed under capitalism), and my mother doesn't get to make choices about my life.
The infantilisation of American 18-21 year olds is fucked up.
Old enough to be killed in a foreign country because it has oil that America wants, but not old enough to buy alcohol? Absurd. Gross even.
Honestly the patients on that girl 💯💯❤️❤️
I’ve never seen someone use “I feel” statements in such a selfish way. She’s so manipulative and is upset her son is finally being a good father and husband to his new family
Justina is a lovely young lady. This Mom should count her blessings!
Omg she’s so controlling. It’s not your child. It’s your grandchild. And you take what’s given to you. YOU ARE NOT IN CONTROL
I won the mother in law lottery! She accepted me from day one. Loved me! There was never any tension. We lost her a few months ago and we all miss her terribly! She was nothing like this and she raised my husband without his dad! For a long time it was just him and her.
So sorry about your loss. My MIL is also a godsend, and I hate to think of losing her.
that must be nice to have a wonderful MIL! i’m sorry she passed away. mine hates me because i’ve encouraged my boyfriend to set boundaries with her and his sister.
So sorry 4your lost. Count yourself lucky to had a good one.
That’s the dream.
I’m living vicariously through you 😂
My MIL is amazing. Even after her son & I divourced.
She has been my & my children's rock!
Her tears are sooo manipulative! She didn't get her way so she cried like a baby. Later on she has the nerve to say that Justina's being unreasonable! No lady- the only unreasonable one is YOU! Then she whines about being left out with 🤦♀️ ZERO comprehension as to why they're leaving her out. She constantly says "I feel...I feel...I feel" as if it's all about her. It's not a summer camp wedding, it's a wedding at an outdoor venue. Huge difference. The only 2 people standing at the altar and getting married are the bride and groom. It's THEIR wedding! I'm so glad to finally see a son who actually stands up to his mother and backs up his partner. These are the kind of couples that I want to see more of and root for.
exactly
yes!
Exactly she doing what they’re trying to teach there daughter whose training not to do. if it was not so annoying it be comical that here Jason is teachings his daughter whose potty training and his mother that sometimes in life your gonna hear the word no your not always going to get your way. But yet it’s the grandmother who throwing the tantrum.
"You're entitled." The mom is projecting so much onto the wife. Poor mom is trying so hard to be mature and communicative in front of her young daughter and in public.
How red his mom turned was funny asf 😂😂 like damn calm Down, her blood pressure just went the hell up!!!
I respect her for establishing boundaries for her child.
The mother would be a lot more zen if she just let people chose for themselves, and not try to control everything her way.
@Ian Valmont The main problem isn't her size, it's her narcissism.
@@marzipanmangoyes. I would even say her mental is a direct reflection of her physical. She’s a very very I’ll woman
The Grandma needs to have respect for what the parents want. Not what she wants to do. I had to learn with my grandkids at the parents said no it was no
Boy this is one interfering mother in law. How they plan their wedding is up to them. More I watch them the more it is pissing me off
Parents say no. But grandparents say yes when it comes to their grandchildren.
@@ivellbullock784 nope
@@frutcakes6370 Well, sometimes.
Grandma will never have respect for anyone but herself and belittling this “other woman”. Emotional incest is gross!
She would have gotten the "know your place" and "I think it's time for you to step down and let us live how we want" speech from me and her teary eyes wouldn't make me budge
Annette refuses to even entertain the idea that her son would have an opinion different from hers...
Dude it’s not her wedding! She needs to let them be. I agree with the daughter’s situation but telling them where to have a wedding is insane
It trips me out that Annette really showed us through her actions that she expects her needs to be placed before her granddaughter’s needs. That’s really weird.
Normal for a narcissist
She's selfish as fuck
It's Jason & Justina's wedding. NOT Jason's Mom's wedding. This will be a day that Jason & Justina will treasure and always remember for the rest of their lives. If they want to plan a summer camp wedding, then Jason's Mom needs to accept their choice, and back off. It's NOT all about her. Wishing Jason & Justina a very happy life together. ❤
She acts like she’s the 3rd person in the relationship and they’re being unreasonable for not considering her in couple decisions. Crazy
This woman sees it as a contest. Im going to win. No, honey, you wont.
I thought my mother was controlling but now that I’ve watched a couple episodes. I’m so grateful for my mom now..
"Jason feels like he has to defend you"
That's his wife of course he should be defending her tf
So a summer camp wedding is just _way out there_ , but Vegas is fine?!
I know so true x
What is her reason to only want a Vegas wedding for her son
What happens in Vegas doesn't last !
@@lindasuekulpaka8206 that’s literally so scary to hear lol, my favorite celebrity couple got married in Vegas lol.
The woman is insane
Imagine trying to tell a bride where she should have HER wedding 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Literally
Using how she took care of them before they had their baby, is gross. You do good things out if yohr heart and not to use to hold over their heads later on, to manipulate the situation...my MIL does this too
She is ABUSIVE!!
Jesus Christ, if i was the wife id stay far away from the mother in law.
This grandma is incredibly manipulative and toxic. She is also using tears to manipulate. I can't imagine having a mother in law like that. "She's way off base when she says I am pushy... I am still going to win a Las Vegas wedding venue."
This fiance is a keeper she knows exactly how to deal with manipulative and chaotic people and she has a great voice and way to deal with this monster in laws antics😅🙄 prayers for the happy couple❤️
Those tears went away quick I have seen one tear drop girll manipulation is in full effect
Though the grandma has done a lot for them, that doesn't give her the right to dictate what they do for their wedding and how they raise their child. I hope they don't cave to her and remain as classy as they are. The grandma's job is done. She had her day and now it's their turn to decide for themselves in their lives! Sheesh! I'd like to see more on how this goes...
You are so fortunate your future daughter in law talks openly...Mom...needs to grow up!
His mom looks like danielle from 90 day fiance🤣🤣😭
I didn’t realize that till I read your comment. Can’t un see that now. 🤣🤣
@@OakleyGamerGirl LMAOOOO😂😂😂😂
She really does lmao 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
To be fair, she look better
Fr😆😆😆
Poor naive girl. RUN.
This fiancé is so understanding it’s incredible. Kudos to the sun for standing up to his mother.
I need her to give some advice and tips and tricks bc if i ever encounter ppl like the mother i need to learn to keep my cool and not lash and cuss out
Jason is the scapegoat for his mom's feelings and it's good to see Justina and Jason sticking up for each other.
shes such a cry baby and thinks she is the one getting married . Like no hunny its not ur happiness and ur special day . And second off all Jason is being a good dad . He is teaching his daughter a lesson that money does not always grow on trees
It’s sad this women can’t even plan her own wedding because of the mom it’s unacceptable the decision should be made between the couple
Its her wedding. You had your day years ago.
I spoil my grandchildren, son in law, and daughter in law, along with my own kids. But when they say enough I back off. I told them to let me know if I go to far and that I do believe that my children's families out rank me and my husband. And my son in law asked us to move in with them...so step back yet be there at the same time.
I totally agree! My son is getting married in May and I adore my DIL. I cringe at her vision of her wedding, however, but I have zipped my lips and smiled. It is not my wedding! I'm just happy my son has picked the perfect one for him, however much I may be cringing through the actual day lol
@@michellestratford9753 you are the best mom ever.
@@susanhunter9617 we aren't going to move in with them. Its just nice to know they want us to.
@@Aluapay awwww so sweet that it came from your child’s spouse too. That’s special 💓
@@michellestratford9753 you’re a great parent :)
This happens in all relationships the in-laws are always the hill to overcome,the bible say''a man shall leave his parents home and marry''it didn't say bring the parents along.
Not every relationship. Don’t act like this is normal
@@bitchmittens99 Agreed! Not every relationship..
My in laws are fabulous ! I’ve never had a problem with them and really that’s how it should be
As soon as I turned 16 (same with my husband actually) I was left to get on with it, it’s great not having in laws interfering in our marriage or how we parent our children! I would be so angry haha
I mean I don't agree. I'm not married but in my last long term relationship i loved his family and his mom was kind to me and always supported us. Healthy in laws exist lol
I get the gma wanting to spoil her gdaughter, but the whole "I don't tell her no" is the wrong kind of spoiling. As a gma, gpa, aunt/uncle you want to spoil them but also always keep in mind their future well-being. We already know what kind of adults spoiled kids become.
nope. would not tolerate this, even from my own mother. it's beyond ridiculous.
This wedding is not about you or what you want! Man this woman is driving me crazy..
Grandmas like that annoy me to no end. Lady, he is your son, but he is her spouse. You're inserting yourself where you do not belong. And saying "That really hurts me" doesn't mean you get to have your way. You're sick. I'm embarrassed you're of my generation.
Getting the toy isn't the problem. It's undermining the rules that her son and daughter in law are placing to try to instill good habits for the future.
I mean she could maybe wait to buy whatever it is and give it to her another time. Although kids that age cha ge their minds 100 times a day so she probably won't even remember she wanted something.
I think mediation between the three of them is a good way to stay unbiased while also holding all of them accountable for what's happening.
With that being said...I really wanna go to a toy store now. 😂
😂😂😂
Go Justina!! She had that sit down tea time with her and told her exactly what she wants. It is her wedding!
I would’ve been so quick to say “it’s not your wedding”
The yard is not working for me!!! It’s not your wedding. Has nobody grounded this mum
I could never deal with a MIL like this!!! Maybe if he was like the perfect man for me then I could maybe swallow it a little bit, but I’d still speak my mind. You should never have to walk on eggshells with your MIL! It’s insane
Annette your behavior is so shocking to me..His wife comes first, and then his child....You are a married women for a long time...Take all your attention that you give to your son, and pay attention to your own husband....Take a trip to Vegas just you and your husband, and have a great time...
The mother needs to stay in her lane. She needs to know her place, she acts as if she's marrying her son. She makes me uncomfortable.
Did she really start crying in a toy store where the granddaughter is supposed to be the center of attention....🤦
Talking about the venue was crazy!!
“you think I’m being pushy 🥺”
I respect this guy, he’s the first one on this show that I’ve seen who even dares to breath in front of they moms 😂😪
I admire that poor girl for her patience…
Only mom and wife talking is stupid. The mom thinks her son isn’t making his own choices but it’s not the wife’s job to convince mom about her sons choices... mom and Jason should be having this conversation.
It’s non of his mother’s business on where this couple want to have their wedding. She is to attend and enjoy their day.
Could you not bicker and fight and cry infront of your 2 year old when this is supposed to be her reward for doing good with potty training. Annettes ovaries dried up years ago, she needs to stop trying to be a mother to her granddaughter. Annettes the biggest manipulator and drama-cow, Jesus.
My friends daughter had wedding and reception camp wooded area. It was great!
I bet it was. Better than all the fakeness on the strip.
Popular where I live
Lmao I can imagine one in Alaska that'd be sick
Finally a real man! Good for him defending his and his wife’s parenting decisions and knowing how to set and enforce a boundary. If my ex had - we would still be married.