Saquon has everything on his side: 1. Backwards hurdle 2. Electric big plays every week 3. Breaking franchise records 4. Giants giving up on him and turning his career around the next year 5. SB caliber team again with him
No. The QB is changing plays, changing protections, calling out stuff all the time, got someone in their headset before plays...if you are doing that and balling, you're more valuable than a RB. Especially if the RB has A THOUSAND yards before contact? Saquons great but he's not Josh or Lamar
@ryanblosser6081: Saquon is acting as a stabilizing force for this Eagles team offense though & he’s a home run hitter. Generally I understand your perspective but Saquon is a special back too, with a fantastic O-Line but RBs ofcourse kind of accept that award for both them & the line.
I hate this conversation. "You have to be a QB or you have to absolutely historical to win." Meanwhile, you can be a QB and have a season simular to other QBs of the past.
They better get the 1 seed before you rest him. Also he has the most yards before contact. He’s not having to break 4 tackles every play like Derrick Henry
the issue with Lamar is that either he shouldn't have 3 MVPs. He should have 2. If he wins last year when the defense carried and his stats were mid (for an MVP) then Mahomes should win this year since the Chiefs are better on offense than the 2023 Ravens and not carried by their defense with the 1 seed. If he wins this year since he has the best stats then either Josh Allen or Dak Prescott or Brock Purdy should've won last year.
The league needs to change the award to MVQB. It's not the most valuable player. Its a joke. Saquon could break the all time season rushing record and they still won't give it to him. He's breaking records every game and it doesn't matter.
It is a joke and all these casual young fans are so against it. In todays gm it’s much harder to break stats rushing then in prior era taking into acct the 17 gm season… which typically doesn’t even count since those “MVP’s” sit the last week before the playoffs
They already have something similar to that with the All Pros. QBs always win the MVP because they are actually the best player in the regular season 99% of the time. Outside of that very mid MVP season last year, when do you think a QB should NOT have won the award since the 2010's??
The NFL MVPs have been Dominate. The NBA MVP is the worse. Since 2010 NFL MVP has had a lot of MVPs with dominating seasons. This is flat out wrong to say.
NFL should definitely modernize the MVP Trophy... 1) Regular-Season Most Valuable Player (RMVP) 2) Post-Season Most Valuable Player (PMVP) 3) Most Valuable Skill Player (MVSP)
Bro get this man off tv. Did he really just say jayden has more td then nix? I’ll make it easy for him Bo nix has 21 total td to Jayden 17. Further more stats outside of td don’t tell the whole story. Bo nix has been the best rookie qb statistically since the month of October. That means for the last 9 weeks. That’s a fact not an opinion. The only reason why his yearly total don’t reach Jayden is because Bo nix first 4 starts was that bad. But Bo nix has been statistically the best rookie qb for 2 months now. It’s like basketball if I average 9 points the fist 30 games then 20 the last 40 my average for the year gonna be 14. And now all of sudden he only good because of Sean but the same people were saying Sean was a an outdated coach
This analysis completely ignores how valuable a consistently incredible running game is. It demoralizes the other team, tires them out, eats up the clock, and provides low risk yardage so that your QB can score TDs or you get FGs. The running game also wins in the play offs. Stopping the run wins in the playoffs. Just look and how both the Eagles and Lions are dominating games right now. When you have a historic running back year, you better give it to him. Seems like these days great QBs are a dime a dozen.
I swear these people don't watch commanders games. Jayden was special for 8 weeks partially because of him, but kingsbury was up there with ben johnson for a minute when it came to calling plays. In these past 3 games, Kingsbury's playcalling has been horrible for most of the time in these games. He's using way less motion than what he was using in the earlier games, and jayden has been predetermining his throw to guys who aren't even open. Dan quinn's decisions have been questionable these last couple of games as well. When the coaches are making bad decisions and aren't addressing what adjustments need to be made, the player's production goes down. Sean payton scheming up plays for Bo Nix's success is what he's supposed to do, and commanders coaches haven't been doing that as of late. Daniels has lost the lead in the roty race. He's missing a lot of throws that he was making early on. He's getting gittery behind a beat-up offensive line, and kliff hasn't made adjustments to teams stuffing the run game and blanketing our best receiver, and thuss jayden is playing worse. Oh, and another thing, can people stop talking about the designed runs. Most of jayden's rush yards have come from scrambles. They barely call designed runs, and almost none of them work unless he has half the line rolling out in front of him.
If saquan gets over 2000 yards I would or break the rushing record I would agree but josh allen is winning with basically a bunch of rookies a solid not great defense.
Interesting how Graziano talks about passes Saquon has thrown, based on ESPN’s own stats on the ESPN app, Josh Allen is Top 15, rushing yds he is Top 50, but because he is a QB and the team is good and he beat Mahomes, he’s above Saquon who is having a record breaking year for his position
unbiased eagles fan Mvp 1.Lamar 2.Saquon 3.Allen Opoy1.Saquon slightly over Henry If Saquon wins Mvp’ he’s going to win Opoy, Henry still has more td’s and isn’t far behind him in rushing yards. So Henry could still win Opoy
I'm not sure I like the idea of giving it to Saquan because he will probably have over 2000, maybe 2200 yard through 17 games with some receiving yards. I still think it should be Lamar or Josh Allen 2nd
No player should be considered for MVP unless their team reaches the conference championship game... at least! If your team fails to reach even the conference final then how "valuable" are you really? Not very! Lamar has only won 2 playoff games in his career. He's just an overrated average QB like Cam Newton was. If you don't win, you ain't much.
Dickerson has the 16 game record. When OJ rushed for 2000 it was a 14 game season. If OJ had the 2 extra games and maintained his per game average, he would be about 180 yards ahead of Dickerson.
It’s been one whole week since Josh Allen ended the Chiefs undefeated season with the NFL play of the year and now Saquon is MVP because he ran 70 yards untouched up 2 scores with 2 minutes left.
The Chiefs thing you mentioned is such casual eye candy, credit the bills that was definitely big for seeding potentially but anyone that has watched ball this year knows the chiefs should have lost at least 4 games
Josh Allen has had multiple horrendous games. One so bad they were wondering if he had brain damage. Those facts are antithetical to an mvp season. If Jalen Hurts didn’t win mvp in 2022 simply because he was hurt for 2 games, then surely Lamar and Josh Allen cannot win mvp because they’ve both had multiple horrendously bad games. Playing bad should be a much stronger disqualifying characteristic than missing games.
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@@DFin321 what is.... knowing that Jeff Saturdays record as a head coach is 1-7 or is it knowing that the Ravens didnt lose because Henry didnt didnt get the ball, Henry didnt get the ball because the Ravens were losing.... if you wanna keep handing off the ball when youre down by 17 youre going to lose.... So yeah I know football and can do math better than you... Anything else you want to prove? Because you're doing good job proving you're an idiot.
SAQUAN BARKLEY KEADS THE NFL U. RUSHING YARDS ONNA TEAM THAT IS 9-2 .SOUNDS LIKE AN NFL MVP TO ME. IF THIS WAS CHRISTIAN MCCAFREY DOING WHAT SAQUAN WAS DOING HE WOULD BE THE MVP
L video. Was 13 minutes and 44 seconds some kind of automatic cutoff? You ask a question at 13 min and 40 seconds that we don't get to see the conclusion for because of an arbitrary video length criteria? Now I probably have to go find an aggregate website to see the end to be interrupted by some kind of art special at the end of that video. LOL.
Lamar and Josh Allen have both had multiple horrifically bad games. If that’s not disqualifying for the MVP then the award is cooked. Jalen Hurts in 2022 and Carson Wentz in 2017 both didn’t get the mvp because they missed a couple games to injury even though they were unanimously favored prior. If missing games disqualifies you for the award, surely causing your team to lose by playing horribly should too because that’s much worse.
Saquon has everything on his side:
1. Backwards hurdle
2. Electric big plays every week
3. Breaking franchise records
4. Giants giving up on him and turning his career around the next year
5. SB caliber team again with him
He doesnt have the most important factor, being a QB
@ make it a QB only award if that’s your logic
He will probably have to settle with a regular Superbowl MVP. Actually that is way better. I would be happy with that.
@@hggfhh4449idk if eagles beat lions brotha but it’ll
Be tough
@@tooeasyy5287what QB is performing better??? Better not say Lamar the dude who has more MVP than playoff wins.
Saturday is right on his SAQUAN take
No. The QB is changing plays, changing protections, calling out stuff all the time, got someone in their headset before plays...if you are doing that and balling, you're more valuable than a RB. Especially if the RB has A THOUSAND yards before contact?
Saquons great but he's not Josh or Lamar
@@ryanblosser6081 The O-line give the QB time to think
@ryanblosser6081: Saquon is acting as a stabilizing force for this Eagles team offense though & he’s a home run hitter. Generally I understand your perspective but Saquon is a special back too, with a fantastic O-Line but RBs ofcourse kind of accept that award for both them & the line.
We need a QB of the year award. It's a shame that it's ALWAYS. QB
Bo actually has more touchdowns, throwing and total touchdowns
They will die on the their hill of not wanting to be wrong about Bo Nix. It’s crazy. Both are talented QBs. 😂 the disrespect for Bo is real.
I hate this conversation. "You have to be a QB or you have to absolutely historical to win."
Meanwhile, you can be a QB and have a season simular to other QBs of the past.
They better start resting Barkley
This ☝️.ravens rested Henry a few weeks with minimal carries and they have a bye coming up
@@GildedWarrior331That’s why I didn’t question the Ravens choice to save King Henry’s legs for the playoffs.
They better get the 1 seed before you rest him. Also he has the most yards before contact. He’s not having to break 4 tackles every play like Derrick Henry
212 yards before contact, he’ll be fine. They just can’t over do it.
He’s barely been touched. He wasn’t even sweating after the rams. He’s good
MVP should be the O-line the QB is dead without one.
MVP is team specific. Who’s the most valuable player to their team? I’d argue Saquon Barkley has changed the Eagles in a significant way.
lol every week they gonna have a new mvp the conversation gonna get watered down
Especially when it’s still Lamar in the front. Greeny just hates Lamar.
@@shadow33103 but it's not Lamar
Well the Eagles and Ravens play each other next so that can determine some things
these shows exist soley to agitate zoomers on social media and make boomers bet more
the issue with Lamar is that either he shouldn't have 3 MVPs. He should have 2.
If he wins last year when the defense carried and his stats were mid (for an MVP) then Mahomes should win this year since the Chiefs are better on offense than the 2023 Ravens and not carried by their defense with the 1 seed.
If he wins this year since he has the best stats then either Josh Allen or Dak Prescott or Brock Purdy should've won last year.
Jeff forgets that Lamar’s Line is Not Good.
The league needs to change the award to MVQB. It's not the most valuable player. Its a joke. Saquon could break the all time season rushing record and they still won't give it to him. He's breaking records every game and it doesn't matter.
It is a joke and all these casual young fans are so against it. In todays gm it’s much harder to break stats rushing then in prior era taking into acct the 17 gm season… which typically doesn’t even count since those “MVP’s” sit the last week before the playoffs
NFL MVP is the worst major award in sports. They should just have an award for the best at each position
They already have something similar to that with the All Pros. QBs always win the MVP because they are actually the best player in the regular season 99% of the time.
Outside of that very mid MVP season last year, when do you think a QB should NOT have won the award since the 2010's??
The NFL MVPs have been Dominate. The NBA MVP is the worse. Since 2010 NFL MVP has had a lot of MVPs with dominating seasons. This is flat out wrong to say.
@scruffd0g193 Ya last year's mvp was so dominant he scored 10 points in the championship game
It’s all these clown shows care about so they can put out some stupid narrative 😂
@@scruffd0g193 Last 3 years Jokic been the best player on the planet and it's not even close, he should had won last 3 years
NFL should definitely modernize the MVP Trophy...
1) Regular-Season Most Valuable Player (RMVP)
2) Post-Season Most Valuable Player (PMVP)
3) Most Valuable Skill Player (MVSP)
'Very Fanish' !!! great way to put it!
Why call it MVP (most valuable player) if they are not considering any other positions. Just change the award name to MVQB.
As a giants fan it’s gross what we did. What a failure our organization is. From benching Eli to not paying this man and building a team properly
BOOST ME BABY! I STILL chuckle when Greeny says that in the commercial.
Ain’t it 7 games left? Talking about who should win the MVP when it’s that many games left is wild af
Honestly the NFL needs a Cy Young like award for QBs, so the other positions have a reasonable chance
Every position should have it's own award
Best LB. example MVLB most valuable linebacker.
Then come up with a regular season MVP using numbers and weighted
Bro get this man off tv. Did he really just say jayden has more td then nix? I’ll make it easy for him Bo nix has 21 total td to Jayden 17. Further more stats outside of td don’t tell the whole story. Bo nix has been the best rookie qb statistically since the month of October. That means for the last 9 weeks. That’s a fact not an opinion. The only reason why his yearly total don’t reach Jayden is because Bo nix first 4 starts was that bad. But Bo nix has been statistically the best rookie qb for 2 months now. It’s like basketball if I average 9 points the fist 30 games then 20 the last 40 my average for the year gonna be 14. And now all of sudden he only good because of Sean but the same people were saying Sean was a an outdated coach
Jayden Daniels was the MVP 3 weeks ago😂
Rui was the Jokic stopper two year ago.
Espn clown show😂😂😂
Offensive line? The Ravens and Bills also have offensive lines to protect their QB. That comment made ZERO sense.
This analysis completely ignores how valuable a consistently incredible running game is. It demoralizes the other team, tires them out, eats up the clock, and provides low risk yardage so that your QB can score TDs or you get FGs. The running game also wins in the play offs. Stopping the run wins in the playoffs. Just look and how both the Eagles and Lions are dominating games right now. When you have a historic running back year, you better give it to him. Seems like these days great QBs are a dime a dozen.
I swear these people don't watch commanders games. Jayden was special for 8 weeks partially because of him, but kingsbury was up there with ben johnson for a minute when it came to calling plays. In these past 3 games, Kingsbury's playcalling has been horrible for most of the time in these games. He's using way less motion than what he was using in the earlier games, and jayden has been predetermining his throw to guys who aren't even open. Dan quinn's decisions have been questionable these last couple of games as well. When the coaches are making bad decisions and aren't addressing what adjustments need to be made, the player's production goes down. Sean payton scheming up plays for Bo Nix's success is what he's supposed to do, and commanders coaches haven't been doing that as of late. Daniels has lost the lead in the roty race. He's missing a lot of throws that he was making early on. He's getting gittery behind a beat-up offensive line, and kliff hasn't made adjustments to teams stuffing the run game and blanketing our best receiver, and thuss jayden is playing worse. Oh, and another thing, can people stop talking about the designed runs. Most of jayden's rush yards have come from scrambles. They barely call designed runs, and almost none of them work unless he has half the line rolling out in front of him.
We Better Journalist Than ESPN
Allen and Lamar don’t have the numbers. Saquan is the leader for MVP.
If saquan gets over 2000 yards I would or break the rushing record I would agree but josh allen is winning with basically a bunch of rookies a solid not great defense.
Barkley for MVP⭐️⭐️⭐️
Quarterbacks need their own Award and should to be barred from the MVP. Everyone's tired of the MVP going to quarterbacks. Everyone!
Facts
why do you let Graziano talk???? seriously, he could just stand in the corner, would be much better for everyone watching
Go birds! Saquon for MVP 🦅🦅🦅
Interesting how Graziano talks about passes Saquon has thrown, based on ESPN’s own stats on the ESPN app, Josh Allen is Top 15, rushing yds he is Top 50, but because he is a QB and the team is good and he beat Mahomes, he’s above Saquon who is having a record breaking year for his position
Give the MVP to Allen. Saquon is going for the SB MVP. That's more important.
2 Awards gotta be the best solution. A QB award and Best player award.
The word value makes it unfair to every position besides QB.
unbiased eagles fan
Mvp 1.Lamar 2.Saquon 3.Allen
Opoy1.Saquon slightly over Henry
If Saquon wins Mvp’ he’s going to win Opoy, Henry still has more td’s and isn’t far behind him in rushing yards. So Henry could still win Opoy
I’m still confused on how Josh Allen is in the MVP discussion
Saquon has played 1 less game then Henry. You gotta factor that in as well.
@@rupertpupkin2660 That’s true, but Ravens have a good run defense so Saquon not get as many yards. Devonte Smith is also returning. I may be wrong.
13:05 Drew Brees in his prime had a cannon for an arm. His arm was just shot by the end of his career.
Brees never had a cannon. His shoulder was completely reconstructed in the prime of his career. Brees was great at timing and accuracy throws.
They Fake Journalist
Saquon already a lock for OPOTY, keep making a case for MVP 26!!!!
ESPN needs to apologize to sirianni
If the QB’s fall off? How about if the eagles just have a better record?
That is ok. Quinyon Mitchell or AJ Brown can get Superbowl Mvp. He will still get a ring.
Lmfaooo how the ravens picking up 3 games on the Steelers LOL this panel is so delusional on the ravens good god
Lamar don’t beat the Steelers so assuring they lose the other game to the Steelers before you say they only 2 back
I'm not sure I like the idea of giving it to Saquan because he will probably have over 2000, maybe 2200 yard through 17 games with some receiving yards. I still think it should be Lamar or Josh Allen 2nd
With your logic just make it a QB only award going fwd lol
@@DFin321 Lamar's passing numbers this year are just too good for me (personally) to ignore
@@ChanceyBoi-g4t he’s not even 1st… by your logic it’s Joe Burrow who should have it
The hate on Bo nix is crazyyy
It's ESPN Fake Journalist That Suck And Can't Do Their Jobs. 😂
Not most valuable quarterback. Most valuable PLAYER
They rasing the bar the man is the mvp so far
Running back must do something historic, QBs don't, just need to play good... got it
MVP is a QB award to casuals
They need to stop slopping qbs there’s 22 players both sides of ball someone else can be deserving of a mvp
THEN WHY DONT THEY CALL IT MVQ MOST VALUABLE QUARTERBACK
Nick Sirianni won 7 straight games. But you clowns won't give the coaching staff any credit 😂
2:29 does offensive line not help the QB?
Saquan may get 700 yards facing the panthers in 2 weeks
Why these two dudes talking to Jeff Saturday as if he’s an idiot and they so smart. Buhls prob never even played balled by the looks of them.
More games = more stats
More records gonna be broken because of more games
Its a week 2 week league but Saquon has been more consistent in his weeks, than any QB this season
I guess you haven't watched Lamar.
@@atg1338 He had sub-par games against , Pittsburgh & Las Vegas
Saquon wasn’t good every game lol
@@keyeviondavis9647defense gave up the Las Vegas game
@keyeviondavis9647 And Barkley has had 4 games under a 100 yards and 0 tds
No player should be considered for MVP unless their team reaches the conference championship game... at least! If your team fails to reach even the conference final then how "valuable" are you really? Not very! Lamar has only won 2 playoff games in his career. He's just an overrated average QB like Cam Newton was. If you don't win, you ain't much.
Cam got to a Super Bowl though but u get what you trying to say…
he meant 13 passing and 11 rushing tds for hurts
"Rex Ryan said this..." video ends
Dickerson has the 16 game record. When OJ rushed for 2000 it was a 14 game season. If OJ had the 2 extra games and maintained his per game average, he would be about 180 yards ahead of Dickerson.
Why they hating on Saquon??
It’s been one whole week since Josh Allen ended the Chiefs undefeated season with the NFL play of the year and now Saquon is MVP because he ran 70 yards untouched up 2 scores with 2 minutes left.
His first 70 yard td was the first play of the 3rd Qtr 😂
The Chiefs thing you mentioned is such casual eye candy, credit the bills that was definitely big for seeding potentially but anyone that has watched ball this year knows the chiefs should have lost at least 4 games
KC🤣🤣🤣 the worst 10-1 team in history. The Ravens beat the breaks off the Bills and Josh. Maybe the Bills can keep playing weak teams.
How tf was that the play of the year
Josh Allen has had multiple horrendous games. One so bad they were wondering if he had brain damage. Those facts are antithetical to an mvp season. If Jalen Hurts didn’t win mvp in 2022 simply because he was hurt for 2 games, then surely Lamar and Josh Allen cannot win mvp because they’ve both had multiple horrendously bad games. Playing bad should be a much stronger disqualifying characteristic than missing games.
BOY, BRING DEM EAGLES ON…LET SEE IF “Mr So🙄called MVP front runner Saquon” do vs US😤!
LaMarvelous “Action” Jackson has a chance to wrap 🆙 his 3rd MVP with a Dub(W) and GOAT performance 😤
🗣️Yes SiRrrr, I lovee itttt!
😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈
Jeff Saturday key to success... if youre down by 17 keep handing off the ball
Jeff Saturday record as a head coach... 1-7
Put your phone down and pay attention in your 10th grade math class kid
@DFin321 awww. Show me on this doll where the truth hurt you.
@@sodblitz3445 this is why u need to pay attention in school…
@@DFin321 what is.... knowing that Jeff Saturdays record as a head coach is 1-7 or is it knowing that the Ravens didnt lose because Henry didnt didnt get the ball, Henry didnt get the ball because the Ravens were losing.... if you wanna keep handing off the ball when youre down by 17 youre going to lose....
So yeah I know football and can do math better than you... Anything else you want to prove? Because you're doing good job proving you're an idiot.
Dan just loves to hate the Eagles
How is Joe Schoen still employed?
SAQUAN BARKLEY KEADS THE NFL U. RUSHING YARDS ONNA TEAM THAT IS 9-2 .SOUNDS LIKE AN NFL MVP TO ME. IF THIS WAS CHRISTIAN MCCAFREY DOING WHAT SAQUAN WAS DOING HE WOULD BE THE MVP
Why did he win it last yr then? Stop being so ignorant son
Every skow need an o line player.
Jeff be saying anything sometimes
Josh all stats are not even that good
If the qb is always the most important and valuable position on the field, then make a quarterback award, food for thought
Exactly
No we have All pro
L video. Was 13 minutes and 44 seconds some kind of automatic cutoff? You ask a question at 13 min and 40 seconds that we don't get to see the conclusion for because of an arbitrary video length criteria? Now I probably have to go find an aggregate website to see the end to be interrupted by some kind of art special at the end of that video. LOL.
I am so bored with this topic ... overkill
Giants fan or you don’t love ball lmao
if CMC didnt get last year Barkley shouldnt get this year
CMC has less rushing yards then Saquon and he only has played 11 gms LOL
You can make more explosive plays on the ground because there is less risque ... except when Lamar does it. Then he's called a pretend Quarterback.
Do you see how after Josh beat Mahomes, now it’s great to be a running quarterback and it is a winning style?😅😅😅
Saquan is not the mvp 😂
Lamar and Josh Allen have both had multiple horrifically bad games. If that’s not disqualifying for the MVP then the award is cooked. Jalen Hurts in 2022 and Carson Wentz in 2017 both didn’t get the mvp because they missed a couple games to injury even though they were unanimously favored prior. If missing games disqualifies you for the award, surely causing your team to lose by playing horribly should too because that’s much worse.
Only gm u can make a slight case against saquon is the falcons gm but he basically got them in the spot to win anyways
@@DFin321and dropped the ball that would of ended the game!
@@ethanhuntemcee1663 just said that…
At least come ba k player oty
last year, saquon avg 3.9yds a carry lol
It’s all about the dolphins 🐬 baby
A team with a losing record 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ yeah,I’m die a dolphins fan
Foxworth has some really trash takes
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The eagles would be below 500 without Saquan
That’s why he is the MVP
Not really