As someone with a lot of experience with FEBuilder, this video makes me think back to when i first found the program, messing around with it and finding all the bugs. Great video, would love to see more. And, by the by, if you want to do this again, there are two patches that you can use to make this easier. AI controls Player units. And Control Enemy. That way you don't have to manually set all the enemies to players yourself
And by using just the control enemy patch, you can have someone else control the blue units while you control the red ones, IIRC. To make things less frustrating for the red player, you might want to also install a 1rn patch so that the low% hit rates don't get cut further by 2rn. A DSFE avoid (avo=spd+lck instead of avo=spd*2+lck) patch would also make the hit rates more manageable. I believe both are available from the default list of patches that come with febuilder?
No way, is it genuinely that easy? 😅 That would have saved me a lot of time haha. Thanks for the advice, that might make the full campaigns possible. Do you know if those patches are available on all 3 GBA games?
@@BadAtFireEmblem FE6 has awful compatability because of its engine. FE8 meanwhile is the most compatible, and it's usually the go too for rom hacking I just checked and that "Change the Control of Blue Units" patch is FE8 only, so sorry about that! You can find all these patches by going under Tools > Patches on the top left :)
@@BadAtFireEmblem and, by the by, the Game Over flag condition is triggered by the units Death Quote, so you'll be able to alter that as well by changing the death quote completion flag from 65 (GameOver) to 0. You can find the death quote editor under Advanced Editors And if you're looking to do a full playthrough, there's another patch that allows you to put the game into "Casual Mode" (FE8 only again I think)
The adventures of Lord Batta and his trusted allies, 30 skill guy, the glitch face gang and Bug all fighting to save the day from the Zombie Nomad Lyn and her fellow zombies. Luckily your army has the power to rewind time to avoid things like instant death curses and to try different strategies against Lyn's overwhelming power.
I believe every action was causing a game over because the Game Over Flag (global flag #65) was active. It activates during the death quote of the main lord. So even though you cleared the chapter before the game over screen hit, the flag was still active, and it checked for it at the end of any action. You can manually deactivate the flag using the debugger event screen, or you can go in and delete the flag from Lyn's death quote to stop that from happening. Also, you could set the death quotes of all the bosses to have the game over flag if you want so if the boss dies it's a game over, and you don't end up in an infinite loop like the prologue lol
HIGHLIGHTS Lyn dies? Game over. Lyn lives? Game over. Move your unit? Game over. The tip of Lyn's nose itches? Believe it or not, game over. After killing Lyn, Batta felt bad and took up her journey. Lyn and her army sneak up on the bandits by standing on top of each other wearing a single trenchcoat. A terrified villager pretends the bandits are there to help. The bandit, remembering Batta's change of heart, decides not to burn the town down. Inspired by the merciful bandits, an elite mercenary with 30 Skill joins them. Natalie: "You're bodyblocking all doors to protect me, right?" Lyn: "..." Natalie: "You're bodyblocking all doors to protect me, right??" Shaman garbs an Energy Ring, the world ends, then the Shaman gets duplicated. Lyn, repeatedly coming back from the dead (the red clothing is because it's stained with her own blood from countless deaths), terrifies the enemy army. They yield after one turn every time. Their boss, desperate, runs across the battlefield in full plate armor and defeats Lyn in one shot. Only for Lyn to revive right before his eyes. It's all over. It's all Lyn. Always has been. Lord Hausen: "Lundgren told me that my daughter had died" Lyn: "Well, yes, but actually no"
My theory for why Lyn's army all spawned on the same tile: they're programmed to enter on that tile, then move to their actual starting positions. Somehow in converting them to red units, the instructions to move them to their starting space is ignored.
It brought Batta into chapter 1 because he was added to the party by being blue, while Lyn wasn't. I think the game over was happening in chapter 1 because the game over flag might have still been set from when you cheated death in the prologue.
I know you seem to be very frustrated from the issues when making this video, but it was genuinely one of the funniest FE related videos I've seen in a while. Just the whole string of issues from 3:55 to 5:16 had me cackling and could tell from there that it was only going to get funnier.
I think they started ch2 in a pile because they all enter the map from there in a lil cutscene and then spread out, which obviously isn't happening because they're enemies (unless I'm misremembering in which case I have no idea)
I was giggling through the whole video, although it sounded super frustrating for you the constant completely unpredictable behaviour all the way through was absolutely top notch entertainment. As a software developer myself i felt that defeated "I dont understaaand!" in my soul.
I went in for the awesome concept from the video, and I stayed because of how hilarious the bugs were (and your reactions to them were even more amazing) Great video dude keep up the work!!
Could you figure out a way to swap out generic mobs for any Boss who managed to survive in earlier maps? Could build up your party as you go, allowing you to keep named Red Units with Batta as the Bandit Lord (still wish we had a full-length Bandit campaign game outside of Bandit Emblem that is kind of on the short side).
Lyn is one of my all time favorite characters in gaming. Watching her torment you and cause you game overs was nice. I really wish Nintendo remade the Elibe games.
I'm just getting into FE as a whole (had a 3ds laying around and decided to play awakening) so I don't really know how this game works but even then, this was an absolute blast to watch, very entertaining and funny, great content!
20:53 "Why are my units so bad?" Should your units, apart from the bosses, all be level 1 or 2? 31:52 Even on the final map, your Shaman is only level 3 and the Mercenary shown a few seconds later is level 2. It's been a while since I played this game, but that seems way too low
The wiki does confirm that basically every non-boss enemy is level 1 or 2. Lyn mode is basically just a pool of exp to distribute based on your favorite characters
Ah yes, the version unlocked after winning Hector Hard Mode Batta Beast Mode (also on the Dorcas map, shouldn't he be one of your units? he starts as an enemy until Lyn talks to him)
If you wanna try a challenge, i can recommend the "lasting damage" run, which is absolutely BRUTAL! Basicly, you treat every bit of damage taken as if it's permanent, and that healing simply doesn't exist. Instead of taking away health from a pool, damage is more treated as lowering the overall HP stat of the unit. Say you start with a character with 30HP. They take 5 damage, but level up HP as well. So since it took 5, but gained an overall HP as well, the damage carried over comes out as 31 for their new overall max HP, minus 5 for the damage taken, meaning the unit now has a new overall HP stat of 26. You pretty much keep track of damage like in D&D, and if your character ever drops to zero overall HP after taking damage, that unit is permanently dead, as this challenge runs off of ironman rules as well...
I have 3 years worth of FRBuilder experience so I find really funny to see you make the same mistakes I did at the very beginning, not understanding events and flags through the many parameters that play For example I believe the repeated Game Over of chapter 2 might have been because you killed Lyn (who has a game over death flag regardless of faction) but forced the clear chapter right before, and it might have put the game over on stand by waiting for an input
I did eventually work out why the game overs were happening on most chapters, but chapter 10 I have no clue haha. Yeah febuilder is interesting to say the least 😅
One of the big things that you could do to remove the game over flag is to make every chapter not have their unit game over condition as the main lord, but as the boss instead
I have the feeling the random game overs were because you didn't have a lord character. I ran into the same issue when trying to make a fe8 ch5x style chapter in my hack. I don't know how to fix it and I have no clue why it happens or why it only happens sometimes, but if you really can't fix the "game over after every move" problem you might want to try to just spawn another Lyn on your team in a corner.
Considering how weak the Lyn mode enemies are, this was actually impressive. The rest of the game would hypothetically be much easier, though I don't imagine you have the sanity left to attempt such a long, arduous task.
there's probably a trigger after each action that checks if the expected blue team has lyn. Because when you win, you take another unit into the next mission, lyn isn't there, and the lyn copy you add probably isn't recognised because it's not the main hero unit.
Would it be easier if you did it this way?: 1) play the previous chapter normally 2) save 3) change unit allegiance & play as the red team 4) reload the save and play the chapter normally 5) repeat If you don't have time, consider just setting the chapter clear flag right away and then levelling up the player units via the editor,
7:56 my guess is that the game keeps a variable whether main 3 hero dies rather than whether they live and it only resets upon new game or chapter reset? So save state loading just copies the variable over with lyn still considered dead so as soon as you do anything the game over is scripted to appear
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As someone with a lot of experience with FEBuilder, this video makes me think back to when i first found the program, messing around with it and finding all the bugs.
Great video, would love to see more.
And, by the by, if you want to do this again, there are two patches that you can use to make this easier. AI controls Player units. And Control Enemy. That way you don't have to manually set all the enemies to players yourself
And by using just the control enemy patch, you can have someone else control the blue units while you control the red ones, IIRC.
To make things less frustrating for the red player, you might want to also install a 1rn patch so that the low% hit rates don't get cut further by 2rn. A DSFE avoid (avo=spd+lck instead of avo=spd*2+lck) patch would also make the hit rates more manageable. I believe both are available from the default list of patches that come with febuilder?
No way, is it genuinely that easy? 😅 That would have saved me a lot of time haha. Thanks for the advice, that might make the full campaigns possible. Do you know if those patches are available on all 3 GBA games?
@@BadAtFireEmblem FE6 has awful compatability because of its engine. FE8 meanwhile is the most compatible, and it's usually the go too for rom hacking
I just checked and that "Change the Control of Blue Units" patch is FE8 only, so sorry about that!
You can find all these patches by going under Tools > Patches on the top left :)
@@BadAtFireEmblem and, by the by, the Game Over flag condition is triggered by the units Death Quote, so you'll be able to alter that as well by changing the death quote completion flag from 65 (GameOver) to 0.
You can find the death quote editor under Advanced Editors
And if you're looking to do a full playthrough, there's another patch that allows you to put the game into "Casual Mode" (FE8 only again I think)
@@azula5646 thanks for all the advice 😊
Batta killing lyn and taking her place, only for kent and sain to not question it. crazy
They look alike, how were they supossed to find out that wasn't lyn?
“I can tell it’s you Lyn, you have your mother’s eyes”
Batta x Lyn is “Battlin’”
Corporate wants you to find the difference between this picture (Lyn) and this picture (Batta)
They're the same picture
The adventures of Lord Batta and his trusted allies, 30 skill guy, the glitch face gang and Bug all fighting to save the day from the Zombie Nomad Lyn and her fellow zombies. Luckily your army has the power to rewind time to avoid things like instant death curses and to try different strategies against Lyn's overwhelming power.
30 skill guy is probably realy famous outside the main campain, so for lyn he is just a bandit, for us he is legend
>hit wall
>game over
great vid
Bro adopted the FE1 AI mindset and threw every single unit he had at Lyn while ignoring everyone else lol
I remember playing shadow dragon
Last chapter, I teleport Tiki to fight the boss, she dies
Next round: I teleport Marth to fight the boss, it dies
Win
Here's what would have happened if Mark had been hired by the bad guys
Money is money
Move over 3-13 archer, 30 skill guy has arrived
but he downgraded to 20 skill guy
@@HelterwithoutSkelter But only after upgrading to 99 skill guy, so it balances out.
Lyn immediately murking Natalie frame 1 in that chapter was wild.
There were a bunch of surprises for sure
Ah..
@@patoriikku Translate to English
@@nessdbest8708 See original (Translated by Google)
Now beat the entire game with Batta replacing Lynn. Good luck wait a minute... @@BadAtFireEmblem
I believe every action was causing a game over because the Game Over Flag (global flag #65) was active. It activates during the death quote of the main lord. So even though you cleared the chapter before the game over screen hit, the flag was still active, and it checked for it at the end of any action. You can manually deactivate the flag using the debugger event screen, or you can go in and delete the flag from Lyn's death quote to stop that from happening.
Also, you could set the death quotes of all the bosses to have the game over flag if you want so if the boss dies it's a game over, and you don't end up in an infinite loop like the prologue lol
Good advice, thank you
I wouldn’t put boss death flag on every chapter, mainly just the ones that are defeat boss, or capture throne
HIGHLIGHTS
Lyn dies? Game over. Lyn lives? Game over. Move your unit? Game over. The tip of Lyn's nose itches? Believe it or not, game over.
After killing Lyn, Batta felt bad and took up her journey.
Lyn and her army sneak up on the bandits by standing on top of each other wearing a single trenchcoat.
A terrified villager pretends the bandits are there to help. The bandit, remembering Batta's change of heart, decides not to burn the town down.
Inspired by the merciful bandits, an elite mercenary with 30 Skill joins them.
Natalie: "You're bodyblocking all doors to protect me, right?" Lyn: "..." Natalie: "You're bodyblocking all doors to protect me, right??"
Shaman garbs an Energy Ring, the world ends, then the Shaman gets duplicated.
Lyn, repeatedly coming back from the dead (the red clothing is because it's stained with her own blood from countless deaths), terrifies the enemy army. They yield after one turn every time. Their boss, desperate, runs across the battlefield in full plate armor and defeats Lyn in one shot. Only for Lyn to revive right before his eyes. It's all over. It's all Lyn. Always has been.
Lord Hausen: "Lundgren told me that my daughter had died" Lyn: "Well, yes, but actually no"
Amazing summary
Bro forgot to tell the story of Lyn and bandits in an attempt to pillage a Castle
Batta is the new lord???
Confirmed!
I hear he's a beast
My theory for why Lyn's army all spawned on the same tile: they're programmed to enter on that tile, then move to their actual starting positions. Somehow in converting them to red units, the instructions to move them to their starting space is ignored.
"Lyn is a bad unit"
Red Lyn: "And I took that personally"
It brought Batta into chapter 1 because he was added to the party by being blue, while Lyn wasn't. I think the game over was happening in chapter 1 because the game over flag might have still been set from when you cheated death in the prologue.
Man got TF2 auto-balanced
I know you seem to be very frustrated from the issues when making this video, but it was genuinely one of the funniest FE related videos I've seen in a while. Just the whole string of issues from 3:55 to 5:16 had me cackling and could tell from there that it was only going to get funnier.
I'm glad you enjoyed it 💛
Yeah the bugs only make it better
Fun concept, good breakup from the other content. Would be interested in seeing this done in the other gba fire emblem tutorial chapters.
Never had a video say "no views" before, this is too interesting to pass up on.
You had Sonic the hedgehog speed
You must of shown up instantly seeing how it is 22k in 3 day
@@Mylifeisalie979 Nah I just made the comment now. 0 watchers. Even I didn't watch it.
@@blondieanon you right, my fault
I think they started ch2 in a pile because they all enter the map from there in a lil cutscene and then spread out, which obviously isn't happening because they're enemies (unless I'm misremembering in which case I have no idea)
I think you're right
"that's a dead Kent, that's very nice" really caught me off guard 😂
23:38 Lyn you were supposed to destroy the bandits not join them! Bring balance to the Fire Emblem not leave it ruin!
Bandit queen Lyn: I HATE YOU
PLEASE make more of this style of video, it'd be hilarious to see multiple bosses play against the main party
The G in Lyn stands for "good".
I was giggling through the whole video, although it sounded super frustrating for you the constant completely unpredictable behaviour all the way through was absolutely top notch entertainment.
As a software developer myself i felt that defeated "I dont understaaand!" in my soul.
31:23 insane comic timing
Fire emblem 7- Batta hard mode
This is probably your best video yet, I'd love to see this done on other games! Thank you for the content, your suffering was enjoyable.
Thank you for the kind words, glad to know the pain was worth it 😂
That random bandit with a maxed out skill is definitely canon with all the times I’ve been crit killed by a tiny hit chance
7:21 Wow, I didn't know Fire Emblem had the Pair Up mechanic before Awakening
I went in for the awesome concept from the video, and I stayed because of how hilarious the bugs were (and your reactions to them were even more amazing)
Great video dude keep up the work!!
The crazy adventures of batta the bandit!
Batta is now the Secae clan leader and you will have to accept it.
Could you figure out a way to swap out generic mobs for any Boss who managed to survive in earlier maps? Could build up your party as you go, allowing you to keep named Red Units with Batta as the Bandit Lord (still wish we had a full-length Bandit campaign game outside of Bandit Emblem that is kind of on the short side).
if everything had hone according to plan, this video wouldn't have been half as good as it is
Lyn is one of my all time favorite characters in gaming. Watching her torment you and cause you game overs was nice. I really wish Nintendo remade the Elibe games.
I'm just getting into FE as a whole (had a 3ds laying around and decided to play awakening) so I don't really know how this game works but even then, this was an absolute blast to watch, very entertaining and funny, great content!
20:53 "Why are my units so bad?" Should your units, apart from the bosses, all be level 1 or 2?
31:52 Even on the final map, your Shaman is only level 3 and the Mercenary shown a few seconds later is level 2. It's been a while since I played this game, but that seems way too low
Welcome to Lyn mode
The wiki does confirm that basically every non-boss enemy is level 1 or 2. Lyn mode is basically just a pool of exp to distribute based on your favorite characters
This is a really cool concept! Would love to see more of this, it's an interesting challenge
Another FE UA-camr did an entire playthrough where the red units were controlled by another player. It was basically a versus campaign.
It was Mekkah iirc, I'd recommend checking it out. I know I enjoyed it when I saw it years ago
Well this was clearly well thought out and meticulously planned. Well done.
Hoping to get lucky with necromancer red dressed Lyn basically sums up my teenage years.
"She's so strong"
I see, being on the player's side is what was holding Lyn back this entire time.
When the Axemans skill is so bad it buffer overflows to max
If im not mistaken Mekka did something similar by inviting a co host and using the control enemy cheat!
You could try it some day for fun!
try beating the first level of Sacred Stones as the red army... Actually just try to kill Seth in that map lol
This is quite entertaining for what a mess it is
Corrupt Emblem Lyn vs the cast of Engage:
NEW BAD AT FIRE EMBLEM VIDEO ‼️‼️
Ah yes, the version unlocked after winning Hector Hard Mode
Batta Beast Mode
(also on the Dorcas map, shouldn't he be one of your units? he starts as an enemy until Lyn talks to him)
That's actually a great point, yes he should
If you wanna try a challenge, i can recommend the "lasting damage" run, which is absolutely BRUTAL!
Basicly, you treat every bit of damage taken as if it's permanent, and that healing simply doesn't exist. Instead of taking away health from a pool, damage is more treated as lowering the overall HP stat of the unit.
Say you start with a character with 30HP. They take 5 damage, but level up HP as well. So since it took 5, but gained an overall HP as well, the damage carried over comes out as 31 for their new overall max HP, minus 5 for the damage taken, meaning the unit now has a new overall HP stat of 26.
You pretty much keep track of damage like in D&D, and if your character ever drops to zero overall HP after taking damage, that unit is permanently dead, as this challenge runs off of ironman rules as well...
I think I've seen a run of this, might have been excelblem? I think it'd be too painful for me 😅
@@BadAtFireEmblem It's extremely brutal
I have 3 years worth of FRBuilder experience so I find really funny to see you make the same mistakes I did at the very beginning, not understanding events and flags through the many parameters that play
For example I believe the repeated Game Over of chapter 2 might have been because you killed Lyn (who has a game over death flag regardless of faction) but forced the clear chapter right before, and it might have put the game over on stand by waiting for an input
I did eventually work out why the game overs were happening on most chapters, but chapter 10 I have no clue haha. Yeah febuilder is interesting to say the least 😅
Yeah, no idea why Game Over is a global flag rather than a temp flag, it really makes no sense.
Loved it, what a comedy of errors
I laughed when evil Lyn just silently stabbed Natalie lmaooo
Great video. Amazing how this 15-20 year old game still gets so many views.
16k after 1 day uploading, crazy stuff
It’s really funny how this challenge gets easier the harder the difficulty you select
Insert Red Vs. Blue joke here
28:42 on my I am the Boss run i took wallace knight crest and gave it to kent and turned him into a paladin 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for your suffering was a funny run. Go team red!
I would really like to see a version of this for Battle before dawn. Maybe it would be fun
Batta is my favorite FE7 lord.
Do you complain that Dorkas blocks the path to his wife? You ask why... It's his wife
Never forget the most skillful brigand in the land
Ugh seeing Lyn's death text makes me sad
This was so cursed in the best way
One of the big things that you could do to remove the game over flag is to make every chapter not have their unit game over condition as the main lord, but as the boss instead
At this point you should've just made a rom hack
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Red Lyn is just perfect
YOOO this is peak
Thanks Hanakko 💛
Haven't started the video yet but the answer is definitely yes
HHM is going to be the new easy mode 🤔
I think this is the most scuffed fire emblem video I've ever seen...
Now do it in eliwood mode😈 lol
Doing it in eliwood mode would be easier
I take that as the highest of compliments, thank you
Imagine a boss recruitment version of this
I have the feeling the random game overs were because you didn't have a lord character. I ran into the same issue when trying to make a fe8 ch5x style chapter in my hack. I don't know how to fix it and I have no clue why it happens or why it only happens sometimes, but if you really can't fix the "game over after every move" problem you might want to try to just spawn another Lyn on your team in a corner.
Ahhh that's interesting, good tip!
Considering how weak the Lyn mode enemies are, this was actually impressive. The rest of the game would hypothetically be much easier, though I don't imagine you have the sanity left to attempt such a long, arduous task.
The bugs were a funny spice, but I understand the frustration! Nice video though, I never thought I would empathize with the AI. lol
Aaaa I love bugs when using FEbuilder XD fun video my guy!
They do be fun, cheers Scottle ❤️
Ok time for hector hard mode now!
I love controlling the bad red units to try to kill the good blue units
This video is amazing😂
2:48 isn’t RNG seeded in this game, so repeating the exact same actions will end identically?
16:00 Lyn! Jesus christ, girl
Can I beat Lyn Mode as Red team
Glitches: I dont know. Can you?
there's probably a trigger after each action that checks if the expected blue team has lyn. Because when you win, you take another unit into the next mission, lyn isn't there, and the lyn copy you add probably isn't recognised because it's not the main hero unit.
Would love to see the other modes!
A great idea!
9:16 how does the bandit have 100% hit with triangle disadvantage???
30 skill propbably too, overflowing numbers.
what a mess of a video, loved it {3
2:06 I would've moved both axe units to the 2 mountain tiles on the top left corner of the map.
Easier to play the ROM hack I made
Would it be easier if you did it this way?:
1) play the previous chapter normally
2) save
3) change unit allegiance & play as the red team
4) reload the save and play the chapter normally
5) repeat
If you don't have time, consider just setting the chapter clear flag right away and then levelling up the player units via the editor,
3 minutes ago? Already know this one is a banger
Would you have the same issues if you replayed the maps normally after beating them to progress, erasing the team switch every time?
10:59 average Florina run
Why not just set blue units to be controlled by the AI, and red units player controlled?
Because I didn't know that was an option 😅
7:56 my guess is that the game keeps a variable whether main 3 hero dies rather than whether they live and it only resets upon new game or chapter reset? So save state loading just copies the variable over with lyn still considered dead so as soon as you do anything the game over is scripted to appear
you think you can stand up to batta the beast?
21:44
Phrasing, lmao
Awesome! :D
Short answer is no because the spaghetti code won’t let you
Veri spaghetti
Bug is getting absolutely shafted here, he misses a 30% hit only for lyn to 20% crit him
Bandit emblem but fe7