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Praise God my brother, we came from a small church to that was a storefront then moved to the “Tabernacle” we call it with seats about 250 people and it has a balcony, then we moved to the Cathedral which holds almost 1000, awesome sounds system, lighting, clusters in the ceiling, a baptistery up on the wall, a second floor full of classrooms and a video room and a library and all that, but then had a split and had to sell that building and move back to the tabernacle, but I think God for the tabernacle. Since we moved back, more people started coming back to the church because our cathedral size building was too far and out in the middle of nowhere. We took some of the gear that we had from up there back to our medium sized tabernacle church, and we just got blessed with the Behringer XR 18 since the old Analog Peavey 32 channel board that we had from years ago started acting up. We realized that we didn’t need all 32 channels anymore and that 18 will be just fine for right now. That digital mixer will change your whole life. Now I don’t have to panic if one of our Sound guys are not there or running late, I could play my keyboards in confidence and don’t have to panic, I can control the system by my iPad which is right above my keyboards. We don’t use in years at all, since we have enough wedges up there for everyone including two for me. But if you get additional mixer, things will be so much better and easier.You won’t need a sound room at all.
i declare over this church more presence of God, His anointing, grace and His word! I command souls will come in and provision, thank you for sharing your video brother its a huge help for us,, God bless hopefully you can visit here in the Philippines
I love the "We use what we have" thing. It’s the same for my church whose congregation is about the same size. Up until the beginning of this year we were on an analog 24 channel mixer too. But I have to say I am SUPER GLAD about all the things I can do on our digital mixer that we have now. I actually have a few things on my mind I think you could improve or at least try out, assuming you haven’t already. 1) Build some DIY absorbers and spread them across the walls of the auditorium. It doesn’t substitute a professional coming in and coming up with an acoustics concept. But one of these is a cheap option and the other is not. ;) Absorbers would be the quickest and by far most effective way of improving speech intelligibility and sound clarity in your auditorium, hands down. 2) AFTER you do that, buy a stereo graphic EQ and tune the PA to your room. 3) On the cajon, you might try swapping the SM57 and the 849. I haven’t used the 849 but chaces are it’ll pick up the low end much better than the SM57 which has very little sub bass but emphasizes the 200 Hz range. I think swapping them could potentially make your life easier when EQing them to get proper sonic separation. 4) I don’t know exactly what your cajon player uses in addition and how, but the way the third mic is positioned, you are likely to get some phase cancellation between the Audio Technica mic and the Shure 849. If it’s possible (meaning you can’t restrict the player’s mobility of course), try positioning the third mic in a way that it points only at the extra instruments, but away from the cajon as much as possible. 5) Maybe not super important, but it would be nicer to have all power amps in the stage area. It’s best practice to keep high power lines as short as possible. Btw what’s funny is that my church uses one of those power amps for wedges too. The funny thing is: we never use the power switch on it because it’s hooked up to a switchable power multi socket. Might try the same thing so you don’t have to mess around with those switches anymore? Btw that pad setup has got to be the funniest but coolest thing on stage I’ve seen in a long time!!! :D And I think you guys did a wonderful job with that combination of wood and carpets on the stage. And one more thing: I’m a huge fan of the Taylor 214ce. You have great taste in guitars, sir.
Feels good to hear a small church tech tour. I always felt bad as a kid leading worship in my dad's mission church in Indian slums. We used to make our own mikes by buying a good sm58 coil and solder stuff into place inside any old junk microphone body, due to budget constraints. Now I do have my own personal digital pro set with an x32 mixer and so on. But nothing feels as good as leading ministry in those old days.
When you do replace those amps i highly recommend Crown. They are pretty affordable and they are really good, that is what we use in my high schools theatre
One of our QSC's died a few months ago too. Turned out to be the switch failed. $125 fix at the local shop (they're long out of warranty). Great vid. We're all about use what we have. We make it work and that means squeezing every ounce of multi use we can.
Hi. Im a Brazilian worship leader. Bro, what you have, here in Brazil is fo the medium riches!! Here is hard to buy. Thanks to show that to us!! God Bless u.
Your church is huge compared to mine. But the information shared here was very useful. We also hold to the same philosophy of "use what you got" lol. Thanks for this
Thank you! I just started pastoring a small church and have been looking for simple lighting ideas. Sound gear I get, but am totally lost when it comes to lighting. It looks like a couple PAR cans and some wash really are all we need.
Thank you for a wonderfully refreshing video on your gear and why you have it. I am in the same position as you. I've been doing the sound at our church using a Behringer Eurodesk 2442 FX analog mixer, powered stage wedges and passive FOH speakers. My struggle was with the worship team wanting to hear themselves louder with the stage monitors, which totally destroyed the FOH sound. They were more interested in themselves than the church as a whole. After almost 7 years of this (and me wanting to quit more than one time), I decided to spend from my US gov't retirement pension and replace the equipment and try going IEM. Since I would be paying for it, it had to be inexpensive and I had to re-use what we had. I went Behringer XR18, the cheapest laptop and tablet I could find and an wireless router. I used the "old" snake which as 24 inputs and 4 AUX sends, same amp, FOH speakers, but got rid of monitors. For IEM's, I bought AliExpress KZ ZST's, and for stationary musicians, used Behringer HA8000 headphone amp on stage, and for the wireless IEM system, AliExpress again with ERZhen In Ear Wireless Stage Monitor System 4 body pack. It was a gamble, but anything else would have cost way much more. The receivers are cheaply made and the plastic battery door is flimsy, but they work. Not stereo, but the sound quality is "ok". Replaced IEM with KZ's. Now, with digital mixer, they control their own mix. No more "I can't hear myself". I have the singers on one channel so they have to learn to work together with no one dominating the IEM mix. Stage singers use wireless mics (Amazon.co.uk), everyone else is wired. I set the gear up at home and was fearful about the first Sunday service with it. After service, the congregation was talking to the worship team how great things sounded. I haven't looked back at going analog. No way. I added a Behringer X-Touch Universal because I like sliders, but still use the laptop for quick adjustments, and the tablet for walking around listening and if there is a problem on stage. The XR18 was way cheaper than any version of the X32.
As I get more involved in doing sound at the small church I attend, I've looking at other churches and what they're doing. We have the exact same QSC amp, with the exact same switch problem!
Hello! I was at the guitar center last month, and they showed me activ speakers (!!!!!!) monitors, and main speakers!!!!! It’s cost cheaper then if we’re gonna talk about passive stuff!!!!!!! So you guys go ahead and check it out; active is mach better then price of an amplifier, then the speakers... But: don’t forget to install SPD protection for each speaker !! SPD protect all your gear from lightning strikes throughout electric circuit!!
Great video and honest, no-frills approach - thank you! We're in the process of looking for a new mixing desk so this is interesting. The Allen & Heath Qu-16 looks great, and the QSnake stage box avoids the thick cable (Cat5 Ethernet instead) plus it affords more inputs & outputs than a conventional snake. But we have all that to do. We also changed from projector and screen to large TVs due to God's wonderful Sunday morning sunlight (who needs stage lighting?) obliterating the image on the big screen. TVs are so much better due to the higher contrast and clarity, and far more manageable, with two 60inch at the front and one 50inch at the back for the leader. EasyWorship manages all of the media smoothly, but PowerPoint files are imported as songs and readings can be styled up more effectively. I have no idea what the 'pad' does, and I hate cajons; drums are far better, but that's just my subjective opinion. It's great to be able to share this with fellow Christian techies.
Great video. We’re also a smaller church (50-60 people). We use to use PowerPoint for our presentation but last year we switched to Faithlife Proclaim. It’s $15ish a month and I personally think it’s better than Pro Presenter. They give a free 30 day trail. You should check it out.
How's that meinl jumbo cajon working for your church? I was thinking of getting one for our friday student meetings. I hear when u hit the bass part, u would also hear the snare buzz?
I just found your channel and I like the simplicity of your set up. I am reminded through this video that God does not need digital state of the art gear to change lives. Though we use digital stuff and in ear monitors, we look to keep it as simple in presentation as we can.
Well done, great video and very informative. I’m helping set up sound and light in a community based charity in Glasgow Scotland, Golden Friendships. I was wondering what you use for the projector and types of screens you are using. Loved the use of wooden pallets on stage wall by the way. 👍
awesome video, was thinking I was left out coz our church got similar setup. I wanted to know why you have 2 power amps in front and 1 at the back and how you use them. thank you.
I am going to guess for him. The amp in the back is the FOH. With for monitor wedges, one channel for each wedge is 2 stereo amps on stage. Assuming the board is using 4 sends for the 4 monitors.
Isettech is right. As far as keeping the 1 amp in the back - that runs the mains. It's only in the back because I didn't know what I was doing when I set everything up 😂
When it became necessary for our church to upgrade to powered speakers ( we still have an analog board) we had a yard sale. We raised the money that way. We have less than 60 full time in attendance and no budget for worship.
This is so helpful I run the tech at my church with the help of a few other members we are located in Maine are attendance is around 50-100 on a good week we are small and growing each week I mainly run video and media this helps a lot thanks most videos like you said are talking about budgets being 10k or more and 500 is a lot for us as a small church thanks again
You should use OpenLP for words/videos, until you have the money for a paid software. So awesome to use, and in my opinion, it’s only beat out from proclaim, and propresenter.
Great to see the real life of a small church, as you said nothing is perfect or 100% functional in a small church. We see the others apresentations in youtube of great places with things we could never have in a small church. Brazil is watching you =) 0/
If you are a small church, then ours is a micro church. Would love to have your worship team and all the space you have. Our sanctuary is about 1000 sq ft. We do have industrial carpets.
I guess size is all relative. To me a "small church" is a church under 100 people. We're lucky to have the building we have but we're still under 100 people.
Awesome use of the space as it pertains to the design of the building. May I ask the square footage of the facility. We are searching for a more permanent location and I’m very inspired by this set up.
Have you tried OpenLP? It's a good open source alternativ to ProPresenter. At my Church we started with SongBeamer, moved on to OpenLP because of more functionality. After a year or so we tried ProPresenter, but found OpenLP a better fit for our needs. Also if your amps are working fine besides those switches i'd just replace that switch
Sounds like you have a lot of echo in there. How does that effect your sound? We have a church build in 1972, it was built for a choir, not a band. We get a lot of reverb
It's already been said, but yeah, Proclaim is great for the small church dynamic. Both of the basis of budget, and workflow. Sounds like you could benefit from the cloud based platform of it. Also has a free trial. Also, you could have a free lighting software for as small of a dmx count you have in LightKey. The most that upgrade may be is a $70 interface on Amazon.
Analog isn’t necessarily bad. For small, low budget churches, analog tends to be the best solution. Digital boards are better for larger churches with more channels of audio or for churches that want to use Dante.
Digital boards will replace a large portion of outboard gear if your church is using reverb, compressors, EQs, etc. Having a screen with full EQ is a step above Low, Sweepable Mid, and High tone on each channel + compression. If you don't use FX, EQ, and compression, you are not ready for digital.
If you are mixing a morning service you should not be hitting 100dB. You want max 90, 95 peaks, anything over that will damage hearing, and will probably be simply unpleasant, unless your building is acoustically amazing. (Or you are outside, which is why concerts can be so loud)
A common issue with mid size power amps is when they are first turned on, the switch takes the hit of a shorted power supply because all the large filter caps are at 0 volts, which pits and burns the contacts on each operation. Larger amps have soft start, which is a gradual turn on performing a pre-charge with a current limiting resistor before the main relay turns on, or has a solid state relay for the main power switching. This pitting can be reduced by leaving the power switches on and using a sound system power sequencer. Most of those have some sort of soft turn on for the main amps. If the amps perform well, please get them repaired instead of buying new amps. A switch and techniciain's time is much less expensive than a new amp. Are there anyone in the congregation who is or knows an electronics technician who can change the switch? If you can afford it, adding the house lights to a dimmer on your DMX can improve candle light services, videos, and other activities needing the house lights dimmed. Also recommend addressing each PAR light individually and using the console to create scenes. This enables playback of themes in lighting for Easter, Christmas, Independance, or other special occasions. By using the fade time slider, you can have smooth timed fades between scenes. Find someone interested in programming the lights and scenes in the console. We have different scenes for Offering, Congregational singing, Sermon, Videos, and special occasions.
Sadly, someone doesn't care about sound. As that location doesn't allow for the sound operator to hear what the congregation hears. That's unfortunately not unusual for many churches.
Yikes, that Amp with the faulty switch looks dangerous. I’d say just put all the monitors just on one amp and take the faulty one off, so it doesn’t start a fire. Plus, if you get a digital mixer, you won’t even need a sound room, you definitely won’t have to have your Sound Man in the boiler room next to the heaters,And life will be much easier.
Honestly, I'm not sure you can "kill the echo." You can do things to lessen it but, at the end of the day, you're still in a room with a concrete floor. A few things that help: add carpet to the floor (we considered adding runners down our isles but ultimately decided against it), fill your room with chairs and people.
Live sound should never be done in a booth. Have your FOH tech back about 65% of the room's mass. Control booths are good for recording or broadcasting/live streaming. Get out of that death trap utility room asap.
Love your channel I’m a worship pastor at a small church and I love your content I’m subscribing!!! Check out eqworships UA-cam channel if you can my wife and I are starting a worship ministry
You sound crazy insecure about your church and gear man! Why bother really? worshiping in spirit and in truth doesn't need anything but a willing heart.
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This was great. "We use what we have!" Thank you for a realistic presentation for smaller churches. God bless.
Glad you're here Shawn!
Praise God my brother, we came from a small church to that was a storefront then moved to the “Tabernacle” we call it with seats about 250 people and it has a balcony, then we moved to the Cathedral which holds almost 1000, awesome sounds system, lighting, clusters in the ceiling, a baptistery up on the wall, a second floor full of classrooms and a video room and a library and all that, but then had a split and had to sell that building and move back to the tabernacle, but I think God for the tabernacle. Since we moved back, more people started coming back to the church because our cathedral size building was too far and out in the middle of nowhere. We took some of the gear that we had from up there back to our medium sized tabernacle church, and we just got blessed with the Behringer XR 18 since the old Analog Peavey 32 channel board that we had from years ago started acting up. We realized that we didn’t need all 32 channels anymore and that 18 will be just fine for right now. That digital mixer will change your whole life. Now I don’t have to panic if one of our Sound guys are not there or running late, I could play my keyboards in confidence and don’t have to panic, I can control the system by my iPad which is right above my keyboards. We don’t use in years at all, since we have enough wedges up there for everyone including two for me. But if you get additional mixer, things will be so much better and easier.You won’t need a sound room at all.
i declare over this church more presence of God, His anointing, grace and His word! I command souls will come in and provision, thank you for sharing your video brother its a huge help for us,, God bless hopefully you can visit here in the Philippines
Where in Mindanao is your church located?
FANTASTIC! A Church that actually HAS an actual Cross! The Cross (and the Bible) are the most important part.
Good video too. 😉
👍👍👍
Amen to that
I love the "We use what we have" thing. It’s the same for my church whose congregation is about the same size. Up until the beginning of this year we were on an analog 24 channel mixer too. But I have to say I am SUPER GLAD about all the things I can do on our digital mixer that we have now.
I actually have a few things on my mind I think you could improve or at least try out, assuming you haven’t already.
1) Build some DIY absorbers and spread them across the walls of the auditorium. It doesn’t substitute a professional coming in and coming up with an acoustics concept. But one of these is a cheap option and the other is not. ;) Absorbers would be the quickest and by far most effective way of improving speech intelligibility and sound clarity in your auditorium, hands down.
2) AFTER you do that, buy a stereo graphic EQ and tune the PA to your room.
3) On the cajon, you might try swapping the SM57 and the 849. I haven’t used the 849 but chaces are it’ll pick up the low end much better than the SM57 which has very little sub bass but emphasizes the 200 Hz range. I think swapping them could potentially make your life easier when EQing them to get proper sonic separation.
4) I don’t know exactly what your cajon player uses in addition and how, but the way the third mic is positioned, you are likely to get some phase cancellation between the Audio Technica mic and the Shure 849. If it’s possible (meaning you can’t restrict the player’s mobility of course), try positioning the third mic in a way that it points only at the extra instruments, but away from the cajon as much as possible.
5) Maybe not super important, but it would be nicer to have all power amps in the stage area. It’s best practice to keep high power lines as short as possible. Btw what’s funny is that my church uses one of those power amps for wedges too. The funny thing is: we never use the power switch on it because it’s hooked up to a switchable power multi socket. Might try the same thing so you don’t have to mess around with those switches anymore?
Btw that pad setup has got to be the funniest but coolest thing on stage I’ve seen in a long time!!! :D
And I think you guys did a wonderful job with that combination of wood and carpets on the stage.
And one more thing: I’m a huge fan of the Taylor 214ce. You have great taste in guitars, sir.
Thanks for all the suggestions Rick! You rock!
@@LeadingWorshipWell Sure thing, keep up the good work! :)
do you bother or try to tune your sound system?
@@LeadingWorshipWellShure SM7B is all the mic you'll need on the cajon!
Love how you were very genuine in this video “we use what we have “
Glad you're here Tobi! 👊
Feels good to hear a small church tech tour. I always felt bad as a kid leading worship in my dad's mission church in Indian slums. We used to make our own mikes by buying a good sm58 coil and solder stuff into place inside any old junk microphone body, due to budget constraints. Now I do have my own personal digital pro set with an x32 mixer and so on. But nothing feels as good as leading ministry in those old days.
When you do replace those amps i highly recommend Crown. They are pretty affordable and they are really good, that is what we use in my high schools theatre
This is one of the most helpful videos I have seen on worship! Kudos! The Volume pedal for the pads was genius!
What a breath of fresh air. It's tough to Macgyver things together. But with the right talent and the hand of God, well, there you go. Great job.
Glad you're here Chris! 👊
Love it. It’s the reality of small churches with limit resources.
Keep leading well Tim! 👊
Did you ever upgrade? I just got our church upgraded from a 12 channel analog Soundcraft to an Allen & Heath QU-16 a couple years ago.
One of our QSC's died a few months ago too. Turned out to be the switch failed. $125 fix at the local shop (they're long out of warranty). Great vid. We're all about use what we have. We make it work and that means squeezing every ounce of multi use we can.
Yeah. Sadly, I've had the switches go bad in quite a few of them.
Keep leading well Kyle!
If the switch is a continuing problem...don't fix it. Open up the amp and bypass the switch. Then turn it on and off with a external power strip.
My church fits about the same amount of people! Thank you for this!! Will definitely be sharing!
Hi.
Im a Brazilian worship leader.
Bro, what you have, here in Brazil is fo the medium riches!!
Here is hard to buy.
Thanks to show that to us!!
God Bless u.
The Same in Dominican Republic
May God bless you and the church.
Your church is huge compared to mine. But the information shared here was very useful. We also hold to the same philosophy of "use what you got" lol. Thanks for this
This church is only about 75-100 people so even though we have a decent sized building the church is relatively small.
Glad you're here Raul!
Thank you! I just started pastoring a small church and have been looking for simple lighting ideas. Sound gear I get, but am totally lost when it comes to lighting. It looks like a couple PAR cans and some wash really are all we need.
Glad it helped! 👊
Thank you for a wonderfully refreshing video on your gear and why you have it. I am in the same position as you. I've been doing the sound at our church using a Behringer Eurodesk 2442 FX analog mixer, powered stage wedges and passive FOH speakers. My struggle was with the worship team wanting to hear themselves louder with the stage monitors, which totally destroyed the FOH sound. They were more interested in themselves than the church as a whole. After almost 7 years of this (and me wanting to quit more than one time), I decided to spend from my US gov't retirement pension and replace the equipment and try going IEM. Since I would be paying for it, it had to be inexpensive and I had to re-use what we had. I went Behringer XR18, the cheapest laptop and tablet I could find and an wireless router. I used the "old" snake which as 24 inputs and 4 AUX sends, same amp, FOH speakers, but got rid of monitors.
For IEM's, I bought AliExpress KZ ZST's, and for stationary musicians, used Behringer HA8000 headphone amp on stage, and for the wireless IEM system, AliExpress again with ERZhen In Ear Wireless Stage Monitor System 4 body pack. It was a gamble, but anything else would have cost way much more. The receivers are cheaply made and the plastic battery door is flimsy, but they work. Not stereo, but the sound quality is "ok". Replaced IEM with KZ's. Now, with digital mixer, they control their own mix. No more "I can't hear myself". I have the singers on one channel so they have to learn to work together with no one dominating the IEM mix. Stage singers use wireless mics (Amazon.co.uk), everyone else is wired.
I set the gear up at home and was fearful about the first Sunday service with it. After service, the congregation was talking to the worship team how great things sounded. I haven't looked back at going analog. No way. I added a Behringer X-Touch Universal because I like sliders, but still use the laptop for quick adjustments, and the tablet for walking around listening and if there is a problem on stage.
The XR18 was way cheaper than any version of the X32.
Sounds like it all worked out in the end. Keep leading well! 👊
As I get more involved in doing sound at the small church I attend, I've looking at other churches and what they're doing. We have the exact same QSC amp, with the exact same switch problem!
On those QSC amps... you can buy those switches at used to be radio shack and it's generally just two 1/4 pin connectors.
Hello!
I was at the guitar center last month, and they showed me activ speakers (!!!!!!) monitors, and main speakers!!!!!
It’s cost cheaper then if we’re gonna talk about passive stuff!!!!!!!
So you guys go ahead and check it out; active is mach better then price of an amplifier, then the speakers...
But: don’t forget to install SPD protection for each speaker !! SPD protect all your gear from lightning strikes throughout electric circuit!!
Great video and honest, no-frills approach - thank you!
We're in the process of looking for a new mixing desk so this is interesting. The Allen & Heath Qu-16 looks great, and the QSnake stage box avoids the thick cable (Cat5 Ethernet instead) plus it affords more inputs & outputs than a conventional snake. But we have all that to do.
We also changed from projector and screen to large TVs due to God's wonderful Sunday morning sunlight (who needs stage lighting?) obliterating the image on the big screen. TVs are so much better due to the higher contrast and clarity, and far more manageable, with two 60inch at the front and one 50inch at the back for the leader. EasyWorship manages all of the media smoothly, but PowerPoint files are imported as songs and readings can be styled up more effectively.
I have no idea what the 'pad' does, and I hate cajons; drums are far better, but that's just my subjective opinion.
It's great to be able to share this with fellow Christian techies.
Glad you're here Kendal! 👊
Great video. We’re also a smaller church (50-60 people). We use to use PowerPoint for our presentation but last year we switched to Faithlife Proclaim. It’s $15ish a month and I personally think it’s better than Pro Presenter. They give a free 30 day trail. You should check it out.
I'll check it out! Thanks!
Leading Worship Well let me know how you like it. If you need any help feel free to hit me up.
@@MicahAtwell Thanks Micah!
I switched to it a year ago or so, and I love it.
At my church we have a behringer x32 and it’s a very nice mixer for mixing bands
And you trimmed your beard! Looks good! 👍👍 Thanks for the vid.
Gotta keep that beard trimmed 👌
How's that meinl jumbo cajon working for your church? I was thinking of getting one for our friday student meetings. I hear when u hit the bass part, u would also hear the snare buzz?
I recommend it! Nice beefy sound. A little weird to mic because the sound port is in the front. But it's the most bassy cajon I've found 👍
Thanks for sharing - Interested in seeing your video setup ect. Very motivating
Nicely done! Finally a tech tour from a smaller church like mine! Would have been lovely to see it all in action. Maybe in a future video ;D
Maybe someday! Thanks for watching!
I just found your channel and I like the simplicity of your set up. I am reminded through this video that God does not need digital state of the art gear to change lives. Though we use digital stuff and in ear monitors, we look to keep it as simple in presentation as we can.
💯 Keep leading well Tim!
Well done, great video and very informative. I’m helping set up sound and light in a community based charity in Glasgow Scotland, Golden Friendships. I was wondering what you use for the projector and types of screens you are using. Loved the use of wooden pallets on stage wall by the way. 👍
The projectors are Optoma WXGAs but I'm not sure the exact model.
I don't remember where we got the screens from. But I know we ordered a kit online.
would you still recommend the shure blx4r considering the issue with frequencies?
I love that board
Thanks for watching! 👊
awesome video, was thinking I was left out coz our church got similar setup. I wanted to know why you have 2 power amps in front and 1 at the back and how you use them. thank you.
I am going to guess for him. The amp in the back is the FOH. With for monitor wedges, one channel for each wedge is 2 stereo amps on stage. Assuming the board is using 4 sends for the 4 monitors.
@@isettech I guess that makes sense
Isettech is right.
As far as keeping the 1 amp in the back - that runs the mains. It's only in the back because I didn't know what I was doing when I set everything up 😂
@@LeadingWorshipWell Your snake has only 4 returns which is full of monitors. It reduces stage clutter off stage.
Sound Techs who have never said we use what we have before, are sooo lucky lol 😆
When it became necessary for our church to upgrade to powered speakers ( we still have an analog board) we had a yard sale.
We raised the money that way. We have less than 60 full time in attendance and no budget for worship.
This is so helpful I run the tech at my church with the help of a few other members we are located in Maine are attendance is around 50-100 on a good week we are small and growing each week I mainly run video and media this helps a lot thanks most videos like you said are talking about budgets being 10k or more and 500 is a lot for us as a small church thanks again
Thanks for watching Jeremy! Glad you're here!
excellent vid Bro. I love the realism!
Glad you're here Jarrett! 👊
This is great video. Thanks for breaking down all of the different gear and how it all fits together. Thanks!!!
Glad you're here!
@@LeadingWorshipWell - Thank you!
You should use OpenLP for words/videos, until you have the money for a paid software. So awesome to use, and in my opinion, it’s only beat out from proclaim, and propresenter.
Great to see the real life of a small church, as you said nothing is perfect or 100% functional in a small church. We see the others apresentations in youtube of great places with things we could never have in a small church. Brazil is watching you =) 0/
Glad you're here Tatiane! 👊
"So we're a small church at 75-100 members.."
Me: *chuckles * then we're an ultra mini church 🤣
Great video though, really inspiring! 😄
Glad you're here! Keep leading well! 👊
Haha, us too.
Never demise small beginnings. Jesus only had 12.
@@kelmcgkelmcg but 5000 (not including women and children) listened to Him preaching.
Timothy Fish we are that small church, haha. When we do activities or serve food attendance immediately goes up.
Really good,! I am also a pioneering church here in philippines, your church is so cool.love it!
If you are a small church, then ours is a micro church. Would love to have your worship team and all the space you have. Our sanctuary is about 1000 sq ft. We do have industrial carpets.
I guess size is all relative. To me a "small church" is a church under 100 people. We're lucky to have the building we have but we're still under 100 people.
Where do you get your pads from that you add to your dell pad?
We have a qsc gtx series amp and we just use a surge protector power supply like the furman power conditioner
We used to have the behringer eurodesk which is also a 32 channel mixer except that it is analog
Awesome use of the space as it pertains to the design of the building. May I ask the square footage of the facility. We are searching for a more permanent location and I’m very inspired by this set up.
Not sure the sqft of our worship space. Capacity is 250 people.
The total building sqft is around 10000.
Thats not a small space 10,000 sf is a dream space ..l love it
Can you please upload church service video to get more details
Have you tried OpenLP? It's a good open source alternativ to ProPresenter. At my Church we started with SongBeamer, moved on to OpenLP because of more functionality. After a year or so we tried ProPresenter, but found OpenLP a better fit for our needs.
Also if your amps are working fine besides those switches i'd just replace that switch
Thanks for the suggestions! 👊
Sounds like you have a lot of echo in there. How does that effect your sound? We have a church build in 1972, it was built for a choir, not a band. We get a lot of reverb
We just embraced it. At the end of the day, we're in a concrete warehouse space - there's only so much you can do.
I recommend switching over to using worship extreme!
Thanks for the suggestion! 👊
Bless you. Thanks.
We too have a small church and we want to setup our stage in a very tight budget. Anyone who can help?
It's already been said, but yeah, Proclaim is great for the small church dynamic. Both of the basis of budget, and workflow. Sounds like you could benefit from the cloud based platform of it. Also has a free trial.
Also, you could have a free lighting software for as small of a dmx count you have in LightKey. The most that upgrade may be is a $70 interface on Amazon.
Thanks for the suggestions Tyler! 👊
Analog isn’t necessarily bad. For small, low budget churches, analog tends to be the best solution. Digital boards are better for larger churches with more channels of audio or for churches that want to use Dante.
Thanks for sharing Daniel! Glad you're here!
Digital boards will replace a large portion of outboard gear if your church is using reverb, compressors, EQs, etc. Having a screen with full EQ is a step above Low, Sweepable Mid, and High tone on each channel + compression. If you don't use FX, EQ, and compression, you are not ready for digital.
Love it! I feel ya. Same size and similar equipment.
Glad you're here Tom! 👊
Can't go wrong with Whirlwind or Radial!
what do you use for stage screen??? projector???
Great video.. I love the use of the pallets.
Keep leading well! 👊
You say you like to keep your volume at a comfortable level. what is that level for you in db? i struggle to get my sound below 100
If you are mixing a morning service you should not be hitting 100dB. You want max 90, 95 peaks, anything over that will damage hearing, and will probably be simply unpleasant, unless your building is acoustically amazing. (Or you are outside, which is why concerts can be so loud)
Noticing white cylinders on stands distributed off stage and in the hall. Are those ASC StudioTraps?
No. Those are just lamps. But they do look similar!
If you'd like to try out an AttackWall for your nearfield mixing setup, let me know
The Amp switch is a easy fix. I repair all sorts of audio gear and a power switch is very easy fix.
Thanks bro we are fighting about the feedback of the mics.
Get qu 32 when you update
Qu32s are a good choice for sure! 👊
A common issue with mid size power amps is when they are first turned on, the switch takes the hit of a shorted power supply because all the large filter caps are at 0 volts, which pits and burns the contacts on each operation. Larger amps have soft start, which is a gradual turn on performing a pre-charge with a current limiting resistor before the main relay turns on, or has a solid state relay for the main power switching. This pitting can be reduced by leaving the power switches on and using a sound system power sequencer. Most of those have some sort of soft turn on for the main amps. If the amps perform well, please get them repaired instead of buying new amps. A switch and techniciain's time is much less expensive than a new amp. Are there anyone in the congregation who is or knows an electronics technician who can change the switch? If you can afford it, adding the house lights to a dimmer on your DMX can improve candle light services, videos, and other activities needing the house lights dimmed. Also recommend addressing each PAR light individually and using the console to create scenes. This enables playback of themes in lighting for Easter, Christmas, Independance, or other special occasions. By using the fade time slider, you can have smooth timed fades between scenes. Find someone interested in programming the lights and scenes in the console. We have different scenes for Offering, Congregational singing, Sermon, Videos, and special occasions.
Thanks for the detailed explanations and suggestions! I appreciate it! 👊
@@LeadingWorshipWell You are welcome. I am a repair tech for my main job.
All great art is the expression of man's delight in God's work, not his own.
I’d like to know more about them lighting set ups and how to install pallets.
Is there something specific you want to know about the lighting set up?
For the pallets, we just mounted them to the wall with screws and L brackets.
Leading Worship Well how to connect them correctly and how you send them
Sadly, someone doesn't care about sound. As that location doesn't allow for the sound operator to hear what the congregation hears. That's unfortunately not unusual for many churches.
We have the same lighting setup. We also just had to change the wireless.
Keep leading well Shawn! 👊
I use 3 of those qsc amps and had to replace the switch in all of them.
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You didn’t go over the projector setup isn’t that part of the tech setup
the switches shouldnt be to hard to change yourself. We have a crest audio poweram p there the switch broke down. No soldering changing it.
How do you avoid the smoke alarm or the air quality alarm going off when you use that amount of haze?
Lol. The struggle is real 😉
Never use the power amp switches, regardless of brand. Power Conditioner or Power Regulator is the only way to go!
Yikes, that Amp with the faulty switch looks dangerous. I’d say just put all the monitors just on one amp and take the faulty one off, so it doesn’t start a fire. Plus, if you get a digital mixer, you won’t even need a sound room, you definitely won’t have to have your Sound Man in the boiler room next to the heaters,And life will be much easier.
Hey bro what apps you use in your tablet please
I just use Google play. You can use any app as long as it can repeat tracks.
@@LeadingWorshipWell thanx bro!
My church has cement floors too, how do you kill echo?
Honestly, I'm not sure you can "kill the echo." You can do things to lessen it but, at the end of the day, you're still in a room with a concrete floor. A few things that help: add carpet to the floor (we considered adding runners down our isles but ultimately decided against it), fill your room with chairs and people.
This title is hilarious! HAHA!
Hey What about the projector screen and Projector??
The projectors are Optoma WXGAs but I'm not sure the exact model.
I don't remember where we got the screens from. But I know we ordered a kit online.
use proclaim...they do monthly subscriptions
Thanks for the suggestion! 👊
I think we have a different definition for “small church”
ikr . small church to me is 20-50 people
Poor sound guy in the utility room! Hope the new booth is up and running for you!
I know right! lol!
add a piano and drummer
You say "budget" but you're using a Mac, which cost 3X as much as a comparable PC which would do the job just as well, likely better.
You can't have a PC crash on you during the service so a Mac is essential. He mentioned they got a refurbished one so you can relax.
@@_hold_the_line_ Instead, you can have your expensive Mac lock up on you for no reason.
Don't call it a small church call it a growing church because one day it's going to be a huge church with god' s help.
Nice setup. If you guys ever need any help in the future please give us a call. Mcgees Crossroads Productions. 🌝👍❤
Different beard too...
Indeed 👍
Live sound should never be done in a booth. Have your FOH tech back about 65% of the room's mass. Control booths are good for recording or broadcasting/live streaming. Get out of that death trap utility room asap.
I cannot stress enough how correct you are.
Absolutely nothing wrong with an analog board
Agreed
75-100 people isn’t small.... 20 is small. Haha
Also had a shave 😂
You know it! 👊
Love your channel I’m a worship pastor at a small church and I love your content I’m subscribing!!! Check out eqworships UA-cam channel if you can my wife and I are starting a worship ministry
Glad you're here Quinlan!
Men the poor sound men must be suffering been in an enclosed room next to hvac equipment. LOL
That's why I called it the "death box" 😂
You sound crazy insecure about your church and gear man! Why bother really? worshiping in spirit and in truth doesn't need anything but a willing heart.
@Icky Icky Batang agreed 👍