@@prolific1518bare handed vs a fearless wolf, there's no way 7 people taking on a fearless full grown wolf, 1 wolf has a bite force of 1200 psi, crushing bones, not to mention speed, agility, and claws that shred niggas up literally, but that's really only if a wolf is fearless, most wolves aren't gonna just attack a group of humans
It's hilarious even in the chat no one was listening. John keeps saying there are categories he is basing it off of, and Dylan is saying I'm tired of you saying that. List the categories. and John is avoiding to list the categories, and Dylan is pressing that not letting it slide, and everyone including people in the chat are letting it slide and telling Dylan to shut up. You can't make this stuff up lol
Nah Dylan was doing too much cause what John was saying was on point. Dylan wasn’t even listening to what was being said cause after I think it was Ippy added his points John agreed with the categories he said. But right after Dylan kept screaming ts
Dragon Ball serves the purpose of being fun, adventurous, & intense action. AOT serves the purpose of telling a focused story that’s grounded, while having stakes w/ mystery. Either are bad, and either should be compared to one another
Dylan doesn’t take into account that certain anime’s had to be the style or pace they were because of the time period. You can reduce a point off that cause it was something that couldn’t be helped, you have to just take into account the major moments
This is weird because y'all are on the cusp of a meta argument about the animation industry and its evolution. Yet I haven't heard much about animators, producers, timelines, contracts ,TV networks, show distributors, practices & techniques, funding.... All of these things are components that build the foundation of what anime we receive. (Dark lights, I'm sure y'all feeling it) Y'all should talk about that ish too. Arguments weren't bad, it's just hard to argue subjective points. I think some common criteria and standards might help you guys. (What makes a good anime, good character development, good animation, etc). Because the back and forth touches on things outside of the anime director's control sometimes 😂😂
Everytime i see an arguing with John it's always the most frustrating thing in the world because bro never answer the question. He just keep going on a roundabout way to say something just for it to go nowhere. It's dumb
@@roxas4587 Nah bruh naruto takes half an episode on a flashback for us to see how lonely naruto was as a child for the milionth time, that's incredibly annoying. I got the cut version of the entire show with no fillers and couldn't finish the show regardless.
@@oldmanjesus9855 the show is like 430 cannon eps long bruh. ofc u gonna have many flashbacks. and the flashbacks happen during the height of fights as most villains r usually what naruto could've been, there is always a comparison. it just feels the flashbacks r alot but it really isn't when u take the total eps into consideration.
@@roxas4587 but the excessive amount of flashbacks really messes up the pace of the show. It gets incredibly disruptive, when you basically know about the character's childhood but you still have to put up with yet another emo flashback with Sadness and sorrow playing in the back(the song is fire though).
@@roxas4587nah op is right. Pacing is filler. Naruto has hella fillers and it has to be accounted for bc it was accounted for in DBZ which has less filler
Yea but let's be real the peak of db in terms of decent story was og dragon ball and I guess z up until namek saga after that it was kinda just repeated villains cell and buu just loves fighting fr only difference was cell was just more confident in his skills
Here's a hot take: Eren did not have any character development in Attack on Titan, sure he got more powers but he is the SAME dude that killed Mikasa's kidnappers as a kid, til he died during the end of the rumbling
AND its 7v1. 7 Members of Rdc versus a single wolf. If someone has to get bitten, whatever but they can easily kill a wolf even if one person gets injured badly.
@@oldmanjesus9855 i always love how this is every dbz fans logic when someone has any criticism about it. I mean dylan likes aot and its popular so whats the logic there
Cartel loves DBZ. We have people thinking they can turn Super Saiyan. Kamehameha probably the most known named move. Loved by the MLS community. Nothing touching DB in terms of impact.
Saying there isn’t an anime as influential as Dbz when mfers across the country in atleast my generation use to Naruto run to be first in line for lunch…. And that being a whole ass meme for 3 years is crazy…😂😂😂😂
On God we ain't about to say the action in Attack on Titan toppin Dragon Ball. You had every other argument for that show in your favor, IN the bag, and you use action. Good god Dylan, you are the WORST debater.
DBZ has good storytelling the reason I feel like a lot of ppl can’t see it is bc it’s not complex but they try to make it complex by ignoring the story. I will say this a lot of the fights do have shitty choreography but you can’t say they don’t hit
Aye aot is prolly the greatest anime they gave u character development a story a beginning middle and end also we got real emotion and why they felt the emotion bruh that show is gone change the anime world
At this point i think i realize these people are the most normie anime fan ever. Their head is only fulls of shonen, anything that not shonen(like Aot) will never beat a shonen show no matter how good they are because they just want to see people fight
It’s really weird to compare these two to begin with. It’s like comparing Avatar the Last Airbender to Star Wars The Clone Wars. Both are great, but are completely different, that it’s just weird to say which is objectively better when they don’t share anything in common.
@jzagg9362 You’re right, but when AOT doesn’t have the same meaningful transformations or likable characters. That’s considered irrelevant. Objectivity hardly means anything to me, but it might to you or anyone else who’s reading this. Which is completely fine. Db the goat
@@AlexSummaryyou can’t say everything aot does is Irrelevant because it doesn’t have iconic transformations compared to dbz which has the most iconic transformation in anime if not fiction that’s a terrible argument
Nah wtf they don’t know the feats of a wolverine. Bro lions don’t even fuck with them cause they know it can be really dangerous. Talking bout it’s small. 😂😂 yall getting washed And halo reach being better than halo 3 is a crazy take. Now reach made it where they can expand the world of halo in a dope way but 3 was better because you had to be more skilled. No powers non of that bull shit. If you can’t aim you’re dead and halo had the best ranking even made. If you where sorry you’re hitting every in between rank before you hit 5 star general
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One Piece stands the test of time bc of its story. DBZ stands the test of time bc of nostalgia. There arent any young kids being like "hey lets watch dragonball Z!" today. They have fans. But its none of their favorite animes.
You have no clue what you're talking about lol the average kid knows dragon ball, only anime fans know what one piece is. I say this as somebody who has a bunch of nephews and nieces. They all know dragon ball and love watching the old OG and Z episodes.
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John just be arguing with no destination 💀
He juss there to talk fr. I know it when I see it.
Right 💀
@@WuntaykTimmy1sometimes he be having decent points, but then he just keeps rambling which is what be losing me😂
He was right about the wolf. Ain't no way 7 men should lose vs 1 wolf.
@@prolific1518bare handed vs a fearless wolf, there's no way 7 people taking on a fearless full grown wolf, 1 wolf has a bite force of 1200 psi, crushing bones, not to mention speed, agility, and claws that shred niggas up literally, but that's really only if a wolf is fearless, most wolves aren't gonna just attack a group of humans
I would hate to argued with John all he does is avoid the question and spout sum bullshit
Johns argument was so sorry he thought he was getting jumped...
It's hilarious even in the chat no one was listening. John keeps saying there are categories he is basing it off of, and Dylan is saying I'm tired of you saying that. List the categories. and John is avoiding to list the categories, and Dylan is pressing that not letting it slide, and everyone including people in the chat are letting it slide and telling Dylan to shut up. You can't make this stuff up lol
Don't matter what the categories are cuz everyone has different tastes.
Nah Dylan was doing too much cause what John was saying was on point. Dylan wasn’t even listening to what was being said cause after I think it was Ippy added his points John agreed with the categories he said. But right after Dylan kept screaming ts
@@robertfishburn8545this was my entire point bruh. Two completely different shows in terms of story and execution and they comparing them???
@@jaylenphillips tbf it is literally their job to have these discussions so they should be able to answer basic questions
Yea that was crazy lol they were bailing John out
John and Dylan arguing always has me crying😂
John just yaps for a living. That boy talk a women to death if he wanted to.
mark always fucking coughing
He itachi fr
those lebron videos getting to his throat. pause.
@@yungdeleuze4658aight man😂😂😂😂
Why do we compare old anime to new anime in quality ? Dbz is 24 years older that AOT 😂
John underestimates Tf outta animals 😂
Dragon Ball serves the purpose of being fun, adventurous, & intense action.
AOT serves the purpose of telling a focused story that’s grounded, while having stakes w/ mystery.
Either are bad, and either should be compared to one another
Im smoking n making a big ass breakfast rn. Bless up
Likewise mate! But I am making dinner xD Ggs
Bitxh u had 2 eggs and a hot pocket little meal ah
I had a pound of bacon, hash browns, breakfast sausage and ya momma pancakes to top it off. Get on somewhere lmao
Why smoke in the morning. Don't need weed all the time@@GDKF0238
@@Yapertoncityblue waffles are delicious 🤤
Dylan doesn’t take into account that certain anime’s had to be the style or pace they were because of the time period.
You can reduce a point off that cause it was something that couldn’t be helped, you have to just take into account the major moments
This is weird because y'all are on the cusp of a meta argument about the animation industry and its evolution.
Yet I haven't heard much about animators, producers, timelines, contracts ,TV networks, show distributors, practices & techniques, funding.... All of these things are components that build the foundation of what anime we receive. (Dark lights, I'm sure y'all feeling it)
Y'all should talk about that ish too. Arguments weren't bad, it's just hard to argue subjective points.
I think some common criteria and standards might help you guys. (What makes a good anime, good character development, good animation, etc).
Because the back and forth touches on things outside of the anime director's control sometimes 😂😂
Everytime i see an arguing with John it's always the most frustrating thing in the world because bro never answer the question. He just keep going on a roundabout way to say something just for it to go nowhere. It's dumb
Dylan hates dbz with a fucking passion. Bro can’t comprehend that dbz the goat because it invented modern shonen anime.
He wasn’t arguing which one is greater tho
The only way he wins the argument is excluding nostalgia. But you can't. DBZ has nostalgia and that gives it +100
It is trash tho
Bro I cannot believe Dylan said attack on titan action is better than DBZ action and everybody stayed quiet …sickening
Right 💀
It does tf and DBZ ain’t top 10 when it comes to action
@@tvickkwhat strain you smoking? I’d love to try it 😂
@@tvickk 3/10 bait comment try again
He was talking about animation wise. Dragon balls fights are flashy but not that impressive in that regard
Saying that DBZ have episodes where nothing happens while praising naruto is insane lol
oh hell naw naruto's weak point isn't pacing. it's fillers. if u disregard the fillers, the cannon eps r well paced & most eps have shit happening.
@@roxas4587 Nah bruh naruto takes half an episode on a flashback for us to see how lonely naruto was as a child for the milionth time, that's incredibly annoying. I got the cut version of the entire show with no fillers and couldn't finish the show regardless.
@@oldmanjesus9855 the show is like 430 cannon eps long bruh. ofc u gonna have many flashbacks. and the flashbacks happen during the height of fights as most villains r usually what naruto could've been, there is always a comparison. it just feels the flashbacks r alot but it really isn't when u take the total eps into consideration.
@@roxas4587 but the excessive amount of flashbacks really messes up the pace of the show. It gets incredibly disruptive, when you basically know about the character's childhood but you still have to put up with yet another emo flashback with Sadness and sorrow playing in the back(the song is fire though).
@@roxas4587nah op is right. Pacing is filler. Naruto has hella fillers and it has to be accounted for bc it was accounted for in DBZ which has less filler
Had mark let dylan press john about those so called 5 categories i think the argument would have been over but whatever
wasnt dragonball a weekly show vs attack on titan being a seasonal show? they had prep time for attack on titan
Yea but let's be real the peak of db in terms of decent story was og dragon ball and I guess z up until namek saga after that it was kinda just repeated villains cell and buu just loves fighting fr only difference was cell was just more confident in his skills
@@corruptedbeastvoidmost ignorant take I’ve ever seen
is it not insane they think a wolf is harder to kill than a cheetah????
RDC where the stream at fellas! I don’t go back to work till Friday!
Here's a hot take: Eren did not have any character development in Attack on Titan, sure he got more powers but he is the SAME dude that killed Mikasa's kidnappers as a kid, til he died during the end of the rumbling
No one will be talking about AoT in 15 more years. DBZ will still be relevant
How does animation count but not nostalgia and impact because of time periods? DBZ is a greater anime than AOT but AOT is a better anime
Two different era man
Humans can kill a wolf with their bare hands. Wolves in packs will definitely kill a single or 2 humans but in equal measure humans will kill wolves
AND its 7v1. 7 Members of Rdc versus a single wolf. If someone has to get bitten, whatever but they can easily kill a wolf even if one person gets injured badly.
29:47 lee had to be drunk ngl
john so fucking annoying
dylan be having the worst takes lmaooo
Nah atleast he can back them up. John just says whatever he wants and moves on
John talks alot. and I mean alot alot. which ultimately boils down to absolutely nothing. he is one of the greatest yappers I've seen.
@@mzwethu3805 he backs them up with terrible reasoning too lmao
Dylan just hates dragon ball z because it's popular
@@oldmanjesus9855 i always love how this is every dbz fans logic when someone has any criticism about it. I mean dylan likes aot and its popular so whats the logic there
DBZ is just the same story over and over again except with just different hair colors
Cartel loves DBZ. We have people thinking they can turn Super Saiyan. Kamehameha probably the most known named move. Loved by the MLS community. Nothing touching DB in terms of impact.
mfs always talking about impact when the show is just boring asf and its old so the animation is ass and unwatchable now
Akira wrote it manga but other work on animation it also change every anime
Saying there isn’t an anime as influential as Dbz when mfers across the country in atleast my generation use to Naruto run to be first in line for lunch…. And that being a whole ass meme for 3 years is crazy…😂😂😂😂
OP isn’t objectively the best anime wtf that’s subjective
So you tellin me i gotta be 200 to fight all of rdc?????
On God we ain't about to say the action in Attack on Titan toppin Dragon Ball. You had every other argument for that show in your favor, IN the bag, and you use action. Good god Dylan, you are the WORST debater.
DBZ action is basic as shit even Card Captor Sakura had more entertaining action 💀
Piccolo vs. 17
Goku vs. Majin Vegeta
DBZ has good storytelling the reason I feel like a lot of ppl can’t see it is bc it’s not complex but they try to make it complex by ignoring the story. I will say this a lot of the fights do have shitty choreography but you can’t say they don’t hit
Heartgold and soul silver are so slept on as great pokemon games
Dylan you tripping
Lee came in like a guardian angel and saved john from getting cooked by dylan😂 lee was on dylan ass
The only characters in AOT that developed was eren lol Dragon Ball Z has way more you can hear the bias in IP voice 💯
Bruh AOT had like 5 parts for a final arc lol. You cant compare those 2 shows at all
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Aye aot is prolly the greatest anime they gave u character development a story a beginning middle and end also we got real emotion and why they felt the emotion bruh that show is gone change the anime world
Smh I could've easily won the argument for DBZ🤦🏾♂️
Might as well compare early one piece to early dragon ball where goku was a kid. tell me which show would flop harder
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At this point i think i realize these people are the most normie anime fan ever. Their head is only fulls of shonen, anything that not shonen(like Aot) will never beat a shonen show no matter how good they are because they just want to see people fight
I think the statement “goku doesn’t have character development” never watch the show
He's the same character though the entire show 😂😂
@@starwarsbane2405nigga never watched the show to be saying that
Attack on titan is better than dragon ball not more iconic or greater but it’s almost irrefutable how AOT is better
It’s really weird to compare these two to begin with. It’s like comparing Avatar the Last Airbender to Star Wars The Clone Wars. Both are great, but are completely different, that it’s just weird to say which is objectively better when they don’t share anything in common.
@jzagg9362 You’re right, but when AOT doesn’t have the same meaningful transformations or likable characters. That’s considered irrelevant. Objectivity hardly means anything to me, but it might to you or anyone else who’s reading this. Which is completely fine. Db the goat
@@AlexSummaryyou can’t say everything aot does is Irrelevant because it doesn’t have iconic transformations compared to dbz which has the most iconic transformation in anime if not fiction that’s a terrible argument
Dat nostalgia gon keep AOT below DBZ forever😂😂😂Dbz n Naruto is like lebron n Jordan
@jzagg9362 I thought it was clear I was being bias.
Desmond was speaking here🥴
20:17 I DONT KNOW SHIT FR 🗣️💯
Jon n dyl need to just glove up 🥊
Jon Jon gone max out that pit by his self idk why they playing
Will rdc beat a cheetah
Nah wtf they don’t know the feats of a wolverine. Bro lions don’t even fuck with them cause they know it can be really dangerous. Talking bout it’s small. 😂😂 yall getting washed
And halo reach being better than halo 3 is a crazy take. Now reach made it where they can expand the world of halo in a dope way but 3 was better because you had to be more skilled. No powers non of that bull shit. If you can’t aim you’re dead and halo had the best ranking even made. If you where sorry you’re hitting every in between rank before you hit 5 star general
Aot post timeskip was all dogshit, i dont understand how people enjoyed shit, ending was ass as well
Well reasoned opinion, you are very trustworthy!
It was def 3 v 1
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I don’t like John
Dragon ball has better world building and character development
No way you actually think this 😭😭
Dragon ball has the worst world building
Dragonball got no world building that’s crazy you think that
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Lol iconic show… but if you think it’s well written, then congrats! You let nostalgia win haha😂
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One Piece stands the test of time bc of its story. DBZ stands the test of time bc of nostalgia. There arent any young kids being like "hey lets watch dragonball Z!" today. They have fans. But its none of their favorite animes.
You have no clue what you're talking about lol the average kid knows dragon ball, only anime fans know what one piece is. I say this as somebody who has a bunch of nephews and nieces. They all know dragon ball and love watching the old OG and Z episodes.
nah fr definitely yapping. my lil brothers always wanna watch dbz i never hear a SOUL say “lets watch one piece” wtf😭
Nah you yapping like crazy and have no idea what you're saying, my 12 year old brother is obsessed with DBZ
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❤Leíste el retretes es un juego 😂de la escuela y que no me dejen trabajar en la casa y que no me 😂en el trabajo en 😂de la escuela y que no me dejen 😂en la mañana me voy de vacaciones a la escuela 😂gracias a la 😂últimamente pero me hace muy difícil ir a la
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John is never wrong 😭🥲 lol