The Case For Daytime Running Lights On Bikes | Bontrager Flare RT & Ion RT First Look
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2018
- Bike lights during dark hours is a no-brainer, but should we be running them during the daytime too? Recent studies suggest there could be a benefit, so we sent Emma and Chris to investigate!
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Running lights during daylight hours can help to significantly increase a cyclists visibility and therefore decrease accident risk. Research has suggested that the flash sequence of a light can also change the visibility of a cyclist, determining that a varying sequence is much more noticeable to the human eye. Overall, there is a strong case for running daytime lights and we suggest this is something all cyclists should think about.
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References:
Edewaard DE, Fekety DK, Szubski EC, Tyrell RA (2018) The conspicuity benefits of bicycle taillights and high visibility clothing in daylight. Manuscript in preparation
Madsen JCO, Andersen T, Lahrmann HS (2013) Safety effects of permanent running lights for bicycles: a controlled experiment. Accident Analysis & Prevention. 50: 820-829.
Edewaard DE, Fekety DK, Szubski EC, Tyrell RA Rosopa PJ (2017) The conspicuity benefits of dynamic and static bicycle taillights at night. Proceedings of the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society 2017 Annual Meeting.
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Do you use lights during the day? Let us know 👇
I use my lights in strobe setting during the day if i'm going to be on the roadway. It really just make sense.
Strobe during day strobe front and rear.
No, easier to have bright color clothes on etc :)
Yes.SOS
Global Cycling Network I just use my road bike/Mountainbike with a dynamo in the middle of the wheel and I have the light in all the time because the dynamo is producing electricity all the time when driving si I can just use the light for a small bit of extra safety
I use daytime running lights on every ride. I get comments from other road users pretty regularly about how visible I am, which makes me feel a lot safer on the road. I’ve also seen cars give me a lot of space, and then pass very close to other cyclists who weren’t using any lights. I fully believe that my lights help keep me safer on every ride.
That's cool, safety is SO important. 👍
I commute regularly by bike both day and night, and visibility is the most important part of the ride in my opinion. I have two headlights (one narrow+bright and one wide+dim) and two taillights mouned to my bike, plus a very excessive amount of reflective tape. I also have a taillight on my high visibility vest, and a fluorescent yellow backpack cover.
This all works incredibly well to keep you safe on the roads, but some drivers seem almost more inclined to drive closely to you and cut you off. They're generally the ones that are well known in local groups though, repeat offenders.
If you're curious about my light+tape setup, I'd be happy to upload some images.
I agree about passing distance - it's more noticeable when I'm commuting (as the road is busier), but I get a really good passing distance when I'm using lights. I think the intensity of the light makes me seem larger than I actually am, so the driver passes wider. I don't use them in the summer though, and get regular close passes. Perhaps I should take heed of my own evidence....
They will think more like how they will overtake a Motorcycle/Moped when they see a light than just the reflectors.
z.browning, I have also been using daylight running lights (1st generation Bontrager Ion and Flare RT), I agree totally with you accessment that cars give cyclsit with lights a lot more space!
I work in emergency management and have been racing in cycling and bike commuting for over 30 years. The difference between a collision or non-collision in my opinion is seconds or tenths of seconds more time available to be seen by motorists, pedestrians or other cyclists. Daytime running lights can help give you that extra visibility advantage in marbled shade, in busy backgrounds or when a motorist only briefly glances left and right. Collisions can have many variables but if you can improve your visibility to all other road users, you are reducing one of major risks.
Do I use lights in daytime? Yes. Why not. And you don't need the fanciest, sorry Bontrager. Most quality lights have disruptive flash patterns and are newer lights are USB-cable recharging so you can easily recharge them without having to remove AAA batteries and trying to find your battery charger that your swore was in the middle drawer in your kitchen.
You have the opportunity to reduce your risks. Why not seize the opportunity?
That's very true, anything we can do to make the roads safer and be seen
Unfortunatelly, the use of flashing lights on bikes is illegal in Germany.
I lost a dear friend because he was not seen approaching in the daylight. Front light just as essential in my opinion.
I agree, My second day out on my bike a car pulled out right in front of me from a stop sign, luckily I was able to stop just in time.
The arguments against DRL are frankly ridiculous, modern motorcycles are fitted with always on lights for a very good reason....
I have been using daytime running lights (the older version of the Bontrager lights in this video in fact) for the past year and I must say that it has made me feel tremendously safer and more confident when riding long distances. I feel so much more visible, cars definitely notice me from much further away and those cars also give me more space when they pass. Daytime running lights are a definite game changer and I recommend them to everybody.
If it makes you feel safer then it's certainly worth it
I've been using a rear flashing light for a few years. Added a front flashing light last year after a driver exiting a lot looked right at me then pulled out in front of me. He realized what he had done upon hearing my reaction, stopped and apologized, and indicated that he hadn't noticed me. Anything to increase visibility is to the good, which is why I also wear fluorescent sun sleeves and socks as well.
I have lights and I never used them during the day. You have changed my mind on this. I'm sold. From now on I'm using them during the day. Thanks! Great video!
i've been using daytime lights for a couple of years now and its an effective way of being seen
We think so!
Bright Clothing Helps As well,
@@Lasermanprint Indeed it does. My fluorescent bike apparel might make look a bit silly, but it's better to look silly and be seen than to look cool and risk being dead or injured.
When I'm riding on the roads I've always used my trusty Niterider headlight in flash mode and it has noticeably caught the attention of drivers approaching intersections from a cross street. They all pause when they see me. So I totally agree with all findings... and now want to check out these lights too! Great video, thanks.
Glad to see a video on this. I am a huge proponent for flashing lights in the daytime. Good to see some science behind it, and even the best type of flashes and such. Well done guys!
I’ve used daytime running lights ever since I got knocked off almost 4 years ago. To me as a motorist as well as a cyclist seeing a flashing light attracts you attention.
great video. definitely sharing it on fb with my clubs. I am an advocate for lights all the time. I run on my bikes cygolite dash 460 in the front and see.sense on the back, I also try to wear colorful kits so its easier to spot me while cycling! great content guys!
Cheers Jorge! It all makes a difference.
Me too!
Great video. I'm going to try this out on my commute. Thanks.
I always have lights on, day and night. Flashing rear light always. Headlight; steady at night (so I can see,) flashing in the daytime so I can be seen.
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Same here
I use exactly same setup, especially here in Vancouver where it gets pretty dark in winter months.
I am kitting out my recumbent trike and will definately be using daylight running lights. Just bought 2 Bontragers for front to accompany the Moon I already have. Thanks for the insight very useful
Your video concerning bike lights as very good and helpful. I will definitely use daytime lights now when I can get them.
Great to hear Frankie!
Absolutely, every time. I have the Bontrager Flare R, the bigger unit which is great - will look at getting one of those little Ion 200s for summer in NZ when I pack away my bigger front light. Like the connection with the Wahoo, that's useful.
Hi guys! Following a great review of the Bontrager Flare, I’ve been using one mounted to my seat post as a daytime running light for a couple of months. It’s bright, decent battery life and best of all it’s “light”.. a light light.. adds a little bit more confidence when training or on a commute.. 😁
Another great video. Thanks guys. Love the color of your bike Ema.
Cheers! It's a pretty awesome colour on Emma's Trek!
i do use flashing lights in daytime but having seen this i need to upgrade. as always, GCN puts out great videos. thanks !
Brilliant video! I've had DRLs on my bike since the start of the year, a real easy way to make rides safer. If i'm on the bike, the lights are on.
Yes, your information was extremely delightful😅❤ thank you for sharing.
Awesome Video! Thank you for sharing!
Really liked this video. Great work to you both. Thx for the info.
Glad you enjoyed it David
Super important topic, thanks GCN folks. I've been thinking about adding bike lights, day or night, after few fellow cyclists got into nasty incidents. Noticed more and more riders are using lights recently, nothing bad in my opinion, just get yourself more visible. Side note, same or similar lights on a tri/TT bike should be no problem?
I was always in two minds about the advantages of using daytime running lights on my bike but after seeing this video I'm utterly convinced.
Very useful video. Thank you.
Physiologist here. Human visual systems are especially cued into features that change. Presumably they are more relevant for survival. More input into the superior coliculus and not just into the lateral geniculate nucleus for those of especially bio-geeky mindset. The flashes ensure that. I always ride with them when riding alone. Of course it would make you more visible to giant predatory flying dinosaurs. Fortunately that's not a problem where I live. Joking aside it is the flashing that matters and really small cheap lights are quite sufficient.
Welp, I just bought a set which do not flash (built by a German manufacturer and conform to German road laws) but not exactly helpful in this regard.
Thanks for sharing that Stuart, we'll have to get the PhD presenters on the bio-geeky stuff!
cerebellum
We are talking about daytime riding.
Neuroscience PhD here, and I concur with Stuart's statements. Especially the flying dinosaurs.
Human Factors psychologist here: While it is important that during daytime hours, flashing lights increase visibility, one should educate people about the downsights and issues during the night, e.g. decreased ability to perceive distance compared to a steady light source. One further factor which should be researched is how sensibility towards cyclist which don’t use flashing light decreases once people get used towards flashing lights.
I've also been using daytime lights. Have been ever since I started cycling on the road again. Recently got new Trek bikes for wife and I and I was sure to outfit both with these lights!! I feel better knowing we can be seen in all conditions.
1:15 notice that? A little wave just to acknowledge a fellow cyclist. I’m fed up waving to cyclist and not even getting a simple nod. We all do the same sport!
I always give fellow cyclists the finger both hands! Welcome to Toronto!!!
Thanks for the video I am really pleased with your recommendation as I have just invested in a set of lights for my bike😀
Great stuff Suresh, what lights have you bought?
A pair of see sense ace. Delivery in Sept and it’s made in the UK😀
Hi any recommendations of it in India? Available in decathlon?
No idea I am from Australia.
Thank you! VERY helpful and informative video!
Yep ; big fan of them ! Need them around Cornish roads
Thank you for your video. I enjoyed it and will be adding DLR lights to my bike.
I absolutely loved this video. I'm definitely getting some of them lights. Well done.👍👍👍👍👍
Awesome! Safe riding!
I use the Exposure Flares (F&R) with the day bright setting and motorists seem more likely to slow up and give me a little bit extra room when approaching and passing... which is nice
I us the bontrager ion pro rt, two on the front, two on the rear. Sometimes I spend over 8hrs in the saddle, so with two I always got light, and if I want to run fast through the trails at night...I got two up front. Love em.
I've been using daytime running lights for years. I currently have the Bontrager Ion/Flare 100 lights. I do think drivers are more likely to see you.
good video i m looking a day light front i already hav since 2016 flare rt red on back its the best !!!!!!!!!! tks
Local Trek dealer HIGHLY SUGGESTED I get the Flair R as a rear light, or something similar, right away. He saw me riding the recumbent trike in the daytime and said I need to be more noticeable.
Bought the Flare R, then later the Ion R up front for the daytime running light modes. These are THE BEST attention getters. Not seen any other company provide a daytime running strobe like Bontrager, and it's the randomized pattern and that extra boost on the main flash that grabs attention.
Other companies give a cheap strobe that does not grab attention as much as it annoys drivers. Almost tried a Lezyne version as thought perhaps the Germans got it, but I have not tried theirs. Was not as well impressed.
I use the older Bontrager Flairs, in fact have two rear Flair R's. Although they do not adjust light intensity or anything, so I may have to bit the bullet and upgrade to RTs.
It’s really made me consider looking into these lights. Also, I’m a psychology student who’s interested in doing research, and I realized that this subject would much likely one that would be worth looking into in my future career.
A Great video. I use my lights during the day as well as at night as it helps in so many situations. Drivers notice me and change their behaviour (I've even had 2 that started pulling out in front of me, but when the corner of their eye caught the light they stopped) and other people using the cycle path (I use the one in this video the twins tunnels path) who are walking and in a world of their own, tend to wake up when the light reflects of something in front of them which is better for them and better for me.
Glad you enjoyed the video David
I only cycle in daylight for preference and I always use flashing front and rear lights all the time - feel a lot safer!
If you feel safer then it's certainly worth it
This was very helpful, thanx.
Well I always use a flashing rear light ( coincidently a Bontrager) ; then as conditions start to get duller and / overcast like going into winter I use a front light. Add with this for winter riding I have a set of full fingered gloves which are a flouro yellow colour.
Nice choice 👍
Yes I use them in day time, especially in time trials .good video.👍
Glad you enjoyed this one Mark
I use the Garmin Varia UT800, adjusts the flashing and brightness according to outside light. Mounts right underneath my Garmin 520 very neatly
Fluorescent jackets are very important too..as a driver and cyclist I tend to notice cyclists wearing high visibility jackets more
These lights are hell mush better than reflex! I must bye these and thanks Emma and Chris for enjoying safety video! GCN not only bike riding they save lives to!
Thanks Petinka! Safety first!
Chilling. I just started using daytime running lights recently on my rides w my kids - just as a precaution. We used to only activate our lights when we were biking closer to dusk. I am only here because of Bontrager’s advertising - but now I know I am right in taking the extra precautions and using the lights regardless of the time of day.
Now I wonder - should I get the Bontrager Flare for extra visibility or will the CatEye Rapid5’s (that we already have) suffice?
Fly6 on the back all year round at minimum, dull/overcast days or early AM I'll have front light on too. Sometimes flashing,depends on whether I need to see with it
I've got Lezyne 400XL and 300 Lumen rear, I use them on Day Flash when out in the countryside, and in cities at dusk. I also have Day Flash on the rear during the night when out doing Deliveroo, I use the 150 mode rather than the full 300, and it's angled such that it won't shine in people's eyes but is still super bright - I find the flash pattern of low and high flash to be beneficial.
What bike path did you use? Also is there any movement to allow bike to have blinking light. I live in a country that does not allow blinking lights. Also seeing the bike and recognizing there is a bike is a big difference. Lights greatly help this
Most helpful. Thank you. I agree!
I love the idea of light on bikes at all times. I'm also glad that rechargeable lights are now commonplace and the most popular option. However, it is annoying that the batteries usually die within 6-8 hours of use. My biggest challenge is making sure I actually remember to charge all my devices. Just inside my back door I've set up a charging station with 3 micro USB plugs to charge my GPS unit, front light, and rear light/camera. I still don't always remember to plug everything in. The next step in safety is making sure it become a natural processes for users to implement it every time.
Would be good have an internal cabling just for powering (dynamo or battery) and charging all gear (light, bike computer and DI2) from one place. These Bontrager lights are really nice, but I miss a better connector that can be used for permanent cabling.
I have done the same thing, 3 plugs with micro USB cables so i can charge my rear lights, front light and Garmin at the same time.
I've used flashing (pulsing) lights with an irregular pattern during the daytime front and back for several years. Many times I see recognition in a driver's face that they see me - and I'm sure the lights contributed to them recognizing my approach.
I also find the lights to be helpful when I my path falls under the shade of roadside trees or I ride through tunnels or underpasses in relative darkness. Drivers would not be able to see me in the relatively dark conditions otherwise.
Note, I've heard the Clemson study determined "pulsing" lights are better than "flashing" lights, but have not seen a universally accepted definition of pulse vs. flash.
Great video. It's certainly turned me on to using lights in the daytime!!
Great stuff
I avoid riding at night and use DRLs always during the day. Car drivers in the US are too often looking at thier cell phones rather than the road. Anything to attract attention!
i think people that are glancing at the phones should be CHARGED as a DUI/DWI. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Ben Jones. I actually prefer riding at night because I can see the lights of an approaching car behind me, I then move as far over as is safe. I’ve had more close calls in the day light than night. I use DRL’s 50% of the time depending on the opportunity to recharge. I’ve always got a AAA powered flasher on the back of my helmet just Incase my main light dies. At night I run both.
Use whistle always
In Thailand I always have my motorbike lights on during the day, I'll do the same for my road bike. Good reminder video
I've been using lights all the time for years. Great idea
Fair science as usual from GCN, and great video too. I always run flashing (Exposure) lights during the UK daytime. My comment on the content here is that although these lights are indeed ANT+ controllable as stated in the video eg. with a Garmin GPS device), the Wahoo Element GPS head unit featured in the video would not be able to control them as the ANT+ function for lights is not included the Wahoo operating system as I write this comment in 2021.
Yes all the time I am on the road day and night. Having a very bright on the front have made pedestrians and drivers look at me and gets their attention. I also have two red flashing lights, one set low left side near the axle and one just above my rear brakes on my Cevelo soloist. I feel it’s made a difference for me after years of riding without them!
Since I was hit from behind during daytime, I seriously considered mounting a flashing red light on my motorcycle. I am sure it will help to make me more visible and attract the attention of motorist coming from behind. I am constantly trying to make myself as seen as possible - but people are so ignorant of cyclist and motorbikes...sad but true. I like you video very much!! Thanks you for making it.
In certain countries (e.g. in Switzerland) it is mandatory to ride with steady lights... not sure now if only at night or also in daytime...
You can add flashing lights if you want but one of your lights needs to be steady on each end of the bike.
I'm currently on the lookout for a good front light to attach to my aero bar. I use this bike for commuting so it should really do it's job well and - as I said - tightly fit onto my flat aero bars. Any recommendations?
Excellent!
Interesting video. Given the information, it would seem that an ideal solution would be to equip cycling shoes with lights in their toes and heels that would only turn on when being worn.
Maybe that's the future!
I use them all the time in the day, especially good when going through heavily wooded areas where light does not penetrant very well.
I rarely use them during the day - unless I'm in a lot of shade. But I do always use the irregular flash pattern.
I personally use front ( Cateye volt800) and rear light on all my rides mostly daytime,set on flashing mode and I really can see the difference from drivers when I am about to engage my self in an intersection. For the opposite traffic my front light can be seen almost 1/2 mile away it is F....g bright I am very please with the results on the the roads. Anything it better then nothing brother. Keep it safe
I use magnetic dynamo lights that run every time I ride, the cost is 2 watts and are a bit of a weight but put on and forget, plus the extra weight and drag on you commute bike well it just add to the training effect.
I'm all for daytime lights. I currently use the first gen Flare R and Ion 800 and absolutely love them. I like to call them "car repellant" as as soon as you turn both on where I live in Montreal, drivers instantly give you space and that goes for the trucks and busses too. I also do the Bio-Motion thing where I use brightly coloured socks so help drivers see me.
Nice stuff! What colour socks do you go for?
Anything brightly coloured like high viz yellow, blue and orange. Bontrager has nice lineup of socks like these.
I use a Cateye rear light which integrates beautifully into my Fizik saddle - has to be the cleanest solution out there. Unfortunately no longer supported!
I've been cycling for more than 30 years and in this time I have always kitted my bikes with the latest technology available (going back to the original Cat Eye with 6v globe and 2xC Batteries) in head lights and tail lights unless I'm racing. If one is a road user then it is a no brainier to set yourself up to the nearest standards of a motor vehicle. Safety first, looks second. Every time I buy a new bike it gets setup at the same time with head lights and taillights. I also find if you tuck a rear flashing light in behind the drops (U-Bend) "behind the brake levers" it increases your width from behind and you then have double rear flashing lights. Just be aware you cannot use that brake lever to easily in the low down drop position. So left side paving (GB) then right side of handle bars, and ride side paving (FR) left side of handle bars.
Somehow GCN gave read my mind again. Was just talking to someone in the lbs about these lights for daytime running.
Hope you found the video helpful!
Great video topic and great video.
I don’t go anywhere without lights on my bike, no matter the time of day. In fact I have a day set and a night set, which are a mix of knog and Bontrager. Love they are all USB rechargeable easily attached and have multiple flash modes.
The only other thing I would have added about lights is that there are helmets now that easily accept small lights, and this keeps me seen from a higher level and above the height of most car roofs. There are a lot of distractions for drivers these days, and all of my close calls were from drivers not paying attention or being distracted (smartphone, map), or an oncoming driver not seeing me among the background when turning at an intersection. Lights hitting their mirrors from behind (parked cars included.) can help as well.
Stay safe out there riders. I really recommend the Bontrager lights, and while they were pricey, I consider them a form of insurance and wouldn’t buy anything except knog and Bontrager these days.
Glad you enjoyed this one and thanks for a great comment!
I use a strong front light during the day but have a jumbo saddle bag for my clothing so there isn't really room on the seat post for a rear light. Are there any decent lights that fix well onto the seat stays?
Does that mean, when i start a ride on my Wahoo Elemnt Bolt the lights will automatically turn on ?
I ride early, so for part of the year it's dark. Found a nice rechargeable headlight with 3 brightness levels and a pulse mode. Don't ride without it and I haven't had anyone pull in front of me. Do use a rear light as well.
Looks like a nice track to ride on, (with or without lights).
All the time - every ride. It's especially helpful on busy roads where there are a lot of cars turning out to join traffic.
Thanks for your video, I just ordered a set of these lights. Is there an app for android phones that can control these lights? If so, what is it called? I know there is a remote you can buy, but I'd rather use my phone.
I’ve always got my Garmin radar back light on. It’s great.
Nice 👍
Me too. I feel a lot safer being told of when cars are approaching from behind, before I can hear them. And less looking behind me means I can focus on the road ahead. Win-win. The only small caveat I've found is that cars that stalk you at the same speed as the bike don't show up.
4.20 does anyone know which out front mount is being used? I have the same front light and wahoo bolt and like the simplicity?
I run a set of Cycliq camera lights front and rear, day and night. In the event of driver inattention I have video evidence as well!
Also a pair of WOWOW dark glove FR gloves which are 360° reflective... great for signalling!
I ride 2-3000 miles a year. Probably 1000 of that is on a boris bike in central London so daytime lights aren't as necessary. Where lights make the most impact for me are the roads further out towards surrey and box hill..especially in summer with a lot of greenery and dappled light meaning people approaching at 50 -60 have minimum time to react. I already use a four4th scorpion on the rear and think I'll try these out too..anything that makes you more visible can only be a good thing, right?
I always use a flashing taillight but the headlight stays in the drawer most rides. Both flash in regular intervals only - maybe I’ll look into intermittent flashing. I’m worried I’ll be aware of the funky rhythm and it will impact my flawless pedal stroke. (Sarcasm)
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I’ve been using daytime lights for years and high vis kit, maybe all those cyclists wearing all dark kit should do as well.
Good choice
Why not have the day time lights , I think it’s a great idea with nearly all Lycra used is black. It’s got to help ....right👍🏻
I noticed you had a mount on your handlebar which held the front light - do you mind responding who makes it - thanks
I have the ion 800 on the front and the ion flare on the rear of my domane and the first ride I had them on I notice cars gave me a wider berth on the road
Anyone know if these will work with wahoo? Trek says they only work with Garmin head units for the ANT+ features.
Always use my lights when out on the bike day or night. I’d even go so far to say low sun conditions can be worse than riding in the dark
That's true, when the sun is low it can be pretty blinding
I already run day running lights. I have a couple bontrager lights and I'd definitely recommend em.
Awesome!
I started using a daytime back light a year ago and right away noticed vehicles giving me more space when they passed me. I don’t know if it was because they saw me sooner or I gained more respect.
Super important video. ✅✅✅🙏
I was at a club TT yesterday and I was impressed by how noticeable daytime lights were. They make sense when riding solo but perhaps no so suitable for group rides. But you would hope to be visible in other ways in that situation.
That's true, when you are out on your own you are less likely to be seen than a big group of cyclists
I own the previous generation Flare R and have had drivers come up to me at a stop and ask me if I could turn the light's brightness down (when flashing at full power) because it was "distracting" them. If that isn't a ringing endorsement for a daytime light I don't know what is.
@GCN: What kind of front mount is that underneath the Wahoo? Seems like a mount that could fit under a K-edge. Pretty aero.