I am currently at 60 g per day and I’m going to start tapering. This will be my second time quitting. I was on it for six years and quit for a year and a half …and then like an idiot started again thinking I could control it this time. This stuff is making me want to… After a while it does something. The depression gets very deep. This plant can be very useful for people who are addicted to dangerous drugs but if you have a personality, that is addictive, be very careful. Thank you for making this channel. It helps so much to see that there are other people in the world like me.
This is very true for me too. After a while I oscillate between feeling great for a few days, then really not great for days. It's odd. Not to mention being a slave to anything sucks. I had to taper more than once as well... And I picked up kratom after surviving heroin addiction and being clean for years. Just don't give up. If you falter on your taper, be kind to yourself and try to jump back nearest you can to where you left of. I couldn't get through it until I decided to love myself even when I messed up - and to still believe it was possible for me. If you really want to be clean - Never give up!
10:02 this is me to a T I’ve turned into a hermit no ambition don’t like people I isolate I want off it too I’m just dreading the withdraw I’ve slowed down and I don’t wanna replace it 🛑🛑
Currently tapering. Presently at 3 grams every six hours. Videos on others experience with quitting are encouraging. I am using Corydalis or Ashwagandha in between doses. I’ve been using for 3.5 years; as high as 30-35 grams per day
I don't get it! I use Kratom for more then 3 years, but I have never do more than 12g per day. Curently I do only 2.7g, 3 times per day. How people take 3x what I do, it's kind of shocking for me.
Sounds like a struggle. I'm new to kratom. Using 1gpd and 3 days a week. Videos like this help to put this drug into perspective and make me very cautious with my use. Thank you, I'm watching and wishing you the best my friend
If you keep your dose low and use it no more than three times a day you will be fine! It's the high doses, multiple times a day and never taking a break is where you can get into trouble very quickly
Dude all of this resonates and so fucken true. Get this shit, the one time I cold turkeyd it, I woke up with Covid and I thought everything I was experiencing was Covid related. Didn’t sleep for 2 weeks. Stupidly I got back on kratom after a month and soon realized everything I experienced was withdrawal and the Covid wasn’t really all that bad. Just started my taper today at around 17gpd. This shit turned out to be so whack! Withdrawals are absolutely no joke
Been off kratom for 8 days. It's not that bad to quit once you get over the first 3 days to week. You might be restless for awhile but it goes away pretty quick tho couple weeks to a month. Depending on how much you take.
All right so I just want to say for anyone trying to do this. Since my last comment I have successfully quit and restarted kratom. I want about a solid 7 days before 90% of the symptoms were gone. So I was using a bunch of supplements. Idk if anything worked. It was straight hell. I'll tell you what though. If you are in a safe position to do it. Just drink your way through it. I had ten days off work and was staying in a cabin with no one around. Day two I just started drinking heavy. It's all still intense but alcohol is like armor. I just drank and listened to music until I would fall asleep for a couple hours and wake up and start again. And if you have good friends just keep as many on the phone as you can laughing and talking about old times and shit. Made it all quite doable. Anyway since all that I realized I love kratom and now I'm back down to a reasonable amount and all is well. Good luck everyone. Don't blame the drugs.
I'm quitting kratom AGAIN right now. Kratom is only nice the first 2-3 weeks of use, then does like you say, makes you content doing nothing, having no goals, etc. I've quit like 6 or 7 times now, so I know what supplements and medications actually significantly help through the withdrawal process; pretty sad that I know that now.
Im tapering rn from 30ish grams 3 days ago i went down ton4 capsules 4 times a day 4 capsules is 2.4 grams of the ones im taking its been a rough week and still nore to go i wanna taper way down and finally jump off i tried the cold turkey it sucked
I'm on suboxone because of kratom but in the end found out it wasn't kratom and no one knows what it actually was but they have stopped selling it because people were getting physically addicted to it being sold as a Kratom extract high potency. I was waking up every 4 hours in full blown withdrawals basically sick as fk. Kratom made me crap enormous turds that really hurt to pass. The powder is very dense. The taste is horrific. Then I found these pills and became physically addicted. Suboxone is bad too but I'm not having really bad withdrawals from it. Personally because it's not regulated there have been trace amounts of toxic substance in that powder.
Starting my taper tomorrow, as i going to try and do it with a journal, and i hqve a few supplements i going to get as well. Ngl, i have come off of suboxone with kratom. Always fept it was a god send. But, i have to quit. I am scared, but i know i can do it. Wish me luck!
Had a 2 year Kratom dance in 2016-18 then got off it then covid hit 2020 we all was on lockdown in our own homes then i ordered some more kratom it seemed to fill the void at first then you feel like you are looking out of a vacuum chamber all alone i withdrew and today 18th march 2024 i am starting the tapering i have had constant dreams of late can not switch them off i going to aim for clean in 30 days i will Do IT!!!!! will come back and tell how it goes :-)
@@guilhermehenrique3458 off it all now it was slow process nowspending days walking in sunshine and training as both are bringing me back to myself grounding been gone so long thank you for asking peace :-)
How are you doing now? Your experience sounds so much like mine, but I’m really struggling to go off of it this time because the anxiety I experience. Ugh, I wish I had never started this drug.
Its a dark place to be man. Hang in there. Separate yourself from the drug crowd. If i hadnt cut all my old friends off i would have never quit all that bull sh*t. Im fortunate to quit the scene after 8 years but the damage is done. I cant imagine the damage after 20 or 30 years. Im more easily irritated, i have a life long sentence of cronic insomnia. Maybe ill figure something out for sleep eventually but so far ive been f*cked.
You're insomnia will eventually go away if it is caused by kratom withdrawal. All the symptoms of opiate or kratom withdrawal subside. I say opiate or kratom withdrawals because they are two different things. Put both act on the opioid receptor
All I can say is do carnivore diet. Literally eat nothing but beef, beef organs on rare occasions and organic pasture raised eggs. It will get rid of your insomnia
I've been taking pretty hight doses every day for 4 years other than the withdrawal and the price (100$ for 1000 grams) I don't have a problem with it it helped me stop smoking meth so I'd call it a win 😉
yea i would always have to plan my quitting around my vacation time at work starting cold turkey on that Thursday going to work Friday sick then be sick all week at home even returning to work the following Monday still sick,,even after 3 or 4 weeks you have periods of being completely lethargic...if one is able to get through a couple months of no use its best dont ever touch it again the withdrawals alone make it not worth using...
I eat 2.2lbs every 3ish weeks, I cant get through my day without it, I've got health problems and lots of pain, it helps me stay awake so I can work and pay the bills. Smoke alot of D8 and hemp flower. I probably eat 5g every hour or 2, specially when working I prob eat more. So glad I can get a 1kilo bag for $80 Been on it hard the last 4+ years, was the only way I was able to make it to work with covid without ever calling out. Stuff tastes so so nasty, very addictive, if I got 12 hours without it, the brain fog and the fatigue is so heavy.
I'm on suboxone because of kratom but in the end found out it wasn't kratom and no one knows what it actually was but they have stopped selling it because people were getting physically addicted to it being sold as a Kratom extract high potency. I was waking up every 4 hours in full blown withdrawals basically sick as fk. Kratom made me crap enormous turds that really hurt to pass. The powder is very dense. The taste is horrific. Then I found these pills and became physically addicted. Suboxone is bad too but I'm not having really bad withdrawals from it. Personally because it's not regulated there have been trace amounts of toxic substance in that powder.
I am currently at 60 g per day and I’m going to start tapering. This will be my second time quitting. I was on it for six years and quit for a year and a half …and then like an idiot started again thinking I could control it this time. This stuff is making me want to… After a while it does something. The depression gets very deep. This plant can be very useful for people who are addicted to dangerous drugs but if you have a personality, that is addictive, be very careful. Thank you for making this channel. It helps so much to see that there are other people in the world like me.
This is very true for me too. After a while I oscillate between feeling great for a few days, then really not great for days. It's odd.
Not to mention being a slave to anything sucks.
I had to taper more than once as well... And I picked up kratom after surviving heroin addiction and being clean for years.
Just don't give up. If you falter on your taper, be kind to yourself and try to jump back nearest you can to where you left of.
I couldn't get through it until I decided to love myself even when I messed up - and to still believe it was possible for me.
If you really want to be clean - Never give up!
The plant can be amazing for sure. Getting addicted to it is awful. When quitting the depression is absolutely unbearable.
That is the mentality of addict. It's called insanity which by definition means doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
That is the mentality of addict. It's called insanity which by definition means doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
10:02 this is me to a T I’ve turned into a hermit no ambition don’t like people I isolate I want off it too I’m just dreading the withdraw I’ve slowed down and I don’t wanna replace it 🛑🛑
Currently tapering. Presently at 3 grams every six hours.
Videos on others experience with quitting are encouraging.
I am using Corydalis or Ashwagandha in between doses.
I’ve been using for 3.5 years; as high as 30-35 grams per day
@KabertaNxgroCxntmanI'll be there soon, I hope. Starting my taper today.
I don't get it! I use Kratom for more then 3 years, but I have never do more than 12g per day. Curently I do only 2.7g, 3 times per day. How people take 3x what I do, it's kind of shocking for me.
@woytas74 SAME!! I take about 4 grams at a time that's it! Every 5 to 6 hours
Very interesting and important information. Thank you for sharing with the world and good luck to you sir!
Sounds like a struggle. I'm new to kratom. Using 1gpd and 3 days a week. Videos like this help to put this drug into perspective and make me very cautious with my use. Thank you, I'm watching and wishing you the best my friend
Thank you for the support. 1gpd at 3x/ week should be a very safe usage in my opinion. It can be a slippery slope if not careful tho.
@KabertaNxgroCxntman thanks for the words of caution. Are you speaking from personal experience?
If you keep your dose low and use it no more than three times a day you will be fine! It's the high doses, multiple times a day and never taking a break is where you can get into trouble very quickly
@@whocares4464 thanks man, I really appreciate the feedback. I'm def keeping my usage in check.
I wish I had never started using this drug in the first place. I feel like my life is slowly slipping away. Gosh, I miss my old self 🥹
Dude all of this resonates and so fucken true. Get this shit, the one time I cold turkeyd it, I woke up with Covid and I thought everything I was experiencing was Covid related. Didn’t sleep for 2 weeks. Stupidly I got back on kratom after a month and soon realized everything I experienced was withdrawal and the Covid wasn’t really all that bad. Just started my taper today at around 17gpd. This shit turned out to be so whack! Withdrawals are absolutely no joke
Been off kratom for 8 days. It's not that bad to quit once you get over the first 3 days to week. You might be restless for awhile but it goes away pretty quick tho couple weeks to a month. Depending on how much you take.
All right so I just want to say for anyone trying to do this.
Since my last comment I have successfully quit and restarted kratom.
I want about a solid 7 days before 90% of the symptoms were gone.
So I was using a bunch of supplements. Idk if anything worked. It was straight hell.
I'll tell you what though. If you are in a safe position to do it. Just drink your way through it.
I had ten days off work and was staying in a cabin with no one around. Day two I just started drinking heavy. It's all still intense but alcohol is like armor. I just drank and listened to music until I would fall asleep for a couple hours and wake up and start again.
And if you have good friends just keep as many on the phone as you can laughing and talking about old times and shit.
Made it all quite doable.
Anyway since all that I realized I love kratom and now I'm back down to a reasonable amount and all is well.
Good luck everyone.
Don't blame the drugs.
Abuse one drug to deal with the withdrawal of another drug, then go back to the original drug. Great advice.
I found your assessment right on the money!
I'm quitting kratom AGAIN right now. Kratom is only nice the first 2-3 weeks of use, then does like you say, makes you content doing nothing, having no goals, etc. I've quit like 6 or 7 times now, so I know what supplements and medications actually significantly help through the withdrawal process; pretty sad that I know that now.
Same, up around 7,8,9 times quitting this time over 10 years. 100% agree that the good only lasts a few weeks before it becomes a losing battle.
@@TK-sz6nj may you have the strength to stay off for good.
People don't need substances to become content with doing nothing and having no goals that's a problem with the person bro 😉
Im tapering rn from 30ish grams 3 days ago i went down ton4 capsules 4 times a day 4 capsules is 2.4 grams of the ones im taking its been a rough week and still nore to go i wanna taper way down and finally jump off i tried the cold turkey it sucked
I'm on suboxone because of kratom but in the end found out it wasn't kratom and no one knows what it actually was but they have stopped selling it because people were getting physically addicted to it being sold as a Kratom extract high potency. I was waking up every 4 hours in full blown withdrawals basically sick as fk. Kratom made me crap enormous turds that really hurt to pass. The powder is very dense. The taste is horrific. Then I found these pills and became physically addicted. Suboxone is bad too but I'm not having really bad withdrawals from it. Personally because it's not regulated there have been trace amounts of toxic substance in that powder.
Starting my taper tomorrow, as i going to try and do it with a journal, and i hqve a few supplements i going to get as well. Ngl, i have come off of suboxone with kratom. Always fept it was a god send. But, i have to quit. I am scared, but i know i can do it. Wish me luck!
Good luck my friend, you can do this!
Had a 2 year Kratom dance in 2016-18 then got off it then covid hit 2020 we all was on lockdown in our own homes then i ordered some more kratom it seemed to fill the void at first then you feel like you are looking out of a vacuum chamber all alone i withdrew and today 18th march 2024 i am starting the tapering i have had constant dreams of late can not switch them off i going to aim for clean in 30 days i will Do IT!!!!! will come back and tell how it goes :-)
How it went?
@@guilhermehenrique3458 off it all now it was slow process nowspending days walking in sunshine and training as both are bringing me back to myself grounding been gone so long thank you for asking peace :-)
@@guilhermehenrique3458buddy didn’t make it
How are you doing now? Your experience sounds so much like mine, but I’m really struggling to go off of it this time because the anxiety I experience. Ugh, I wish I had never started this drug.
You are inspiring
Its a dark place to be man. Hang in there. Separate yourself from the drug crowd. If i hadnt cut all my old friends off i would have never quit all that bull sh*t.
Im fortunate to quit the scene after 8 years but the damage is done. I cant imagine the damage after 20 or 30 years. Im more easily irritated, i have a life long sentence of cronic insomnia. Maybe ill figure something out for sleep eventually but so far ive been f*cked.
You're insomnia will eventually go away if it is caused by kratom withdrawal. All the symptoms of opiate or kratom withdrawal subside. I say opiate or kratom withdrawals because they are two different things. Put both act on the opioid receptor
All I can say is do carnivore diet. Literally eat nothing but beef, beef organs on rare occasions and organic pasture raised eggs. It will get rid of your insomnia
I've been taking pretty hight doses every day for 4 years other than the withdrawal and the price (100$ for 1000 grams) I don't have a problem with it it helped me stop smoking meth so I'd call it a win 😉
Strait up man. This is how it is.
Better man then me.
The skin burning with the restless body shit is isane.
6 years this september.
Real talk how to people choke down 60 grams for a dose or even half it’s so thick and awful
yea i would always have to plan my quitting around my vacation time at work starting cold turkey on that Thursday going to work Friday sick then be sick all week at home even returning to work the following Monday still sick,,even after 3 or 4 weeks you have periods of being completely lethargic...if one is able to get through a couple months of no use its best dont ever touch it again the withdrawals alone make it not worth using...
Opioids fucking suck. That'll be all thanks for coming to my ted talk. -pain patient who's also dependent on the garbage.
I eat 2.2lbs every 3ish weeks, I cant get through my day without it, I've got health problems and lots of pain, it helps me stay awake so I can work and pay the bills. Smoke alot of D8 and hemp flower.
I probably eat 5g every hour or 2, specially when working I prob eat more. So glad I can get a 1kilo bag for $80
Been on it hard the last 4+ years, was the only way I was able to make it to work with covid without ever calling out.
Stuff tastes so so nasty, very addictive, if I got 12 hours without it, the brain fog and the fatigue is so heavy.
I'm on suboxone because of kratom but in the end found out it wasn't kratom and no one knows what it actually was but they have stopped selling it because people were getting physically addicted to it being sold as a Kratom extract high potency. I was waking up every 4 hours in full blown withdrawals basically sick as fk. Kratom made me crap enormous turds that really hurt to pass. The powder is very dense. The taste is horrific. Then I found these pills and became physically addicted. Suboxone is bad too but I'm not having really bad withdrawals from it. Personally because it's not regulated there have been trace amounts of toxic substance in that powder.