The Problem With Mudryk
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2023
- Chelsea and Mykhailo Mudryk has been a topic of conversation ever since his arrival in January but where is it going wrong for him and what's next in the storyline of this seemingly ill-fated transfer.
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"Do you remember when he chose Chelsea over Arsenal? It was glorious". Bro, you literally made a video about how embarrassing it was when he signed for Chelsea.
Did the same for canceido and so far he's even worse 😅😅
@motivationchannel3658 what are the so many proven players that haven't made it at United? All I can think of is Pogba and Sancho and we still won with Pogba and his assist numbers weren't that bad. Shut up if you don't know what you're talking about.
@@hackle511di maria, Antony, Donny, Telles, Cavani, Maguire, Lukaku, Sanchez, Mkhitaryan, Ibra, Schweinsteiger, Falcao, Sancho, Pogba we’re all proven pre United and then looked far worse in a United top.these are all within the past ten years. Only chelsea have had nearly as many absolute flops in that time
@jamesnorthcote3718 Bro you shut him up there 🤣🤣🤣
Mudryk wanted Arsenal but Al Nassr took the biggerbid so that they could donate more money to the Ukraine war effort
Chelsea’s transfer strategy hasn’t been identifying profiles and skill sets that would enhance their team, it’s literally just take other clubs transfer targets without actually realizing what they’re good at or what they bring to a team
Very ignorant comment. How do you sit on UA-cam comments section and judge club officials getting paid for what they do??? Do you even know the details and actual process of player acquisitions?
@@africanchild2541 mudryk is quite literally the best example of this. He was certainly not scouted before the window started, they had an abundance of wingers, and they only gained interest when arsenal were in for him. Same with caicedo, absolutely no interest before arsenal and Liverpool were in for him. There is no transfer strategy whatsoever with this club.
@@africanchild2541proof is in the proofing . Have you seen those new buys being a success ? A Caceido is Brighton is different from one at Chelsea. Mudryk only had a few game but look what he was bought for ? There has to be some track record to support such a signing .
Club is dysfunctionnal period. It should take boely as long as other American owners to get it right... years or never liké MU
@@africanchild2541
The owner of Chelsea transfer window is absolute focking stupid moran. The new owner of Chelsea thinks he should buy just a lot of mediocre players to hope get succes, when his dumb enough to not realize, that you need few key players to your club, if you want to have succes with rest of the team being also good, like with De Bruyne and Haaland in Man City who are literally the best football players of their generation. Chelsea just buys randomly players that dont have really that good chemistry with eachother, when Chelsea compleately switch their starting eleven from last season. Why did they sell Kante, when he is very important defensive mid-fielder for Chelsea and Havertz was atleast decent striker for scooring goals, when Sterling is known for missing his chances, so he aint that good, while he is fast. Chelsea bought Enzo Feranandes, because he won the World Cup, but he is also just another mediocre decent mid-fielder. Not top class like De Bruyne and for this reason buying a lot of random players, that are not super good or best of generation, when their only mediocre gives Chelsea mediocre results in Premier League and its not good to switch your whole starting eleven, when they will have lack of chemistry, when its just good to buy one or two players for next season replacing the bad players or old football players, like how before last season City bought Haaland, when he was the only one they needed for scooring goals, when Aguero had already left Man City, when became too old.
De Zerbi’s comments were taken out of context! At Shaktar he asked Mudryk what he wanted from his career, and he said he would love to win the Ballon d’or… RDZ’s comments were in reference to this. He didn’t just randomly say that Mudryk would win it simply based on his talent…
RDZ could also have said it to drive Mudryk’s price up, thus doing a favour to his former club… This isn’t super far-fetched if we consider everything going on in Ukraine, and RDZ having an affinity to Shaktar and the country, and wanting to help them out…
He didn't choose Chels over Arsenal
It was political.
He wanted arsenal. That's a fact.
If his trash football player. I dont mind him going to trash club, where he wont find much any football succes at all.
It’s true. Shakhtar selected the higher bid..
His face in the photos says it all... He just wanted to get out of the country and Shakhtar would only let him go to the highest bidder.
@@jout738you talking as if your team frequently win trophies when in reality it is rare for yall
Exactly.
Choosing Chelsea over Arsenal wasn't solely his decision. I remember at that time, Mudryk was dropping every potential hint about a move to Arsenal, however, Shakhtar were the ones who accepted Chelsea's offer. And yes, at the time it did feel like you lot got one over us, until Trossard happened. And I will say that the Trossard transfer wasn't well-received by Arsenal fans either. From all the Mudryk drama, and the fact that Trossard had fallen out with De Zerbi because of his attitude (something Arteta would totally not fancy), I think most of us thought of this as a desperate, plan B transfer. Thankfully for us, he turned out to be a revelation and at the moment is more than happy to rotate with out attackers whenever he's needed.
Agreed, Leo been brilliant. But do you think if Mudryk got his move to the club he wanted (Arsenal) he'd be any better?
Spot on 👍
@@louisepage192 Yes its not a coincidence a lot of wonderkids been going to chelsea and failing that chaos is just too much for young players. That whole Roman to boehly transition has been rough to everyone
No one was upset about Trossard. We all seen what he can do
@@louisepage192I think mudryk would've been unreal for Arsenal
Rory is hilarious
“The fact that arteta wanted mudryk MUST mean there is lots of potential there”
“I dont care if arteta rates Kai Havertz, he will never ever be good”
Pick a struggle bro
Its Karma. Chelsae has twice done the same thing. stealing other clubs' transfer. Rory ranted about Caesedo last week and Mudryk this week.
I’m making the case that if Mudryk would have joined Arsenal, he would have walked into an environment that nurtures, promotes and invests in young players. He would’ve been training under a manager who has proven to get the best out of players, both young (Odegaard, Saliba, Martinelli etc.) and old (Xhaka). He would’ve had a friend in Zinchenko who would speak his language. He’d be talked about as a totally different player due to these circumstances. I’m an arsenal fan and despite all the shenanigans that happened, I would still love to see him at the Emirates.
No Wonder you lot sold Havertz to us at Arsenal when you gave Arteta the Opportunity 😅 Great player I actually admired when he was at Chelsea, you lot would have done well to keep in as it happens 👍
Those Arsenal fans that threw shit at him when we faced Chelsea at the Emirates were geniunly classless dickheads that think footballers are entertainers and not humans
Yeah, kinda still hope that we will rejoin with him too. Although Nelson revealed himself after that winter transfer window
Mudryk ship has sailed don’t be dumb, his value dropped significantly he’s failed in the prem. Nelson is better than mudryk
If Ukraine Bolt was bought for his real value (30 mil) no one would be complaining. It’s not his fault Chelsea overpaid. Leave him alone
Totally agree. They overpaid, want him to perform 100m during a crisis and will get frustrated if he's not playing like Salah.
No one leaves maguire and Antony alone lmao why should mudryk be allowed to not reach his apparent value he is just a big Dan James lol
For real. I can't stand when people blame or treat players differently due to something they have no control over. These are kids too. If I was 21, I'd definately feel the pressure of all this BS around me.
Says someone who’s team employs harry maguire and woman beaters
Well it was his fault that he accepted this horrible deal
He didn't choose Chelsea, he was forced into it. You can tell with his performances. Chelsea have a great academy but haven't developed players who joined the senior squad in years. He was raw and needed someone to work with him. Won't find that at Mercenary FC.
Imo, he's just bad, all muscle no brainer, look at his basic ball control😂, he should be playing here in Indonesia super league.
Haven't developed youth platers for years😂 we just got £60m for Mount £35m for Hall. Ex Academy players James, Chalobah, Gallagher, Colwill and Maatsen all in the match day teams.
@@jaysp1910 Plus Loftus-Cheek, Hudson-Odoi, Christensen, Abraham, Tomori, Gilmour, etc. among those who also made it but left shortly before Mount and Hall. No other academy has recently produced as many first team players for a Premier League club as Chelsea's.
@@jaysp1910 Did you read what I said? Great academy but senior players don't develop when they join Chelsea.
He was only signed because the new owners wanted to show how anti-russia they are now. Seems pretty obvious to me.
Not sure why Rory is confused...Mudryk NEVER wanted to come to Cheshit in the first place so WHY would he play passionately?
Some players dgaf about what they are being paid or what their agents get. Some players want to play for certain clubs more than what they can gain financially from joining Rivals.
That being said, the only thing confusing here is why Boely gave this unknown foreign prospect an 8 year contract. Jail SENTENCE FC
Boehly punishes him for picking the wrong side, payed 100 mil just for this, gotta respect the hustle ngl😂😂
@@japs_21 😂😂😂
Your forgetting how Todd and his former club forced him into the Chelsea move coz his former club wanted more 💰. He always wanted Arsenal, never Chelsea
Mudryk needed Arteta more than Arteta needed him.. Coaches like De Zerbi and Arteta are amongst the few that can make him achieve his potential..
Could be worse. You could have bought Antony and Sancho for about 90M and 80M each like my team. 😢
Nah Antony and Sancho are terrible but Mudryk is so much worse. Absolutely talentless fraud of a footballer
@@All-Outta-Bubblegum Unfortunately the most important ability is availability. Looks very likely neither will be playing. At least Chelsea can play their crappy player.
Antony actually scores.
The problem with Mudryk is he plays for Chelsea.
If he was at Liverpool or City he’d be unreal
Yes. Same thing with enzo and caicedo. If enzo would be under pep it would be scary. Him and mac allister are also a good proven duo
@@sushipizza4439mac gets carried by enzo and got carried by caicedo, getting exposed at liverpool
@@benkoj6581 tf. They play in a double pivot. No one carries no one. Mac allister plays insane for argentina and so does enzo. It’s a team effort not a 1 man team. Caicedo is not worth 115 million and chelshit are gonna ruin him. Respond to me when your side is doing well. Keep your mouth shut until then
@@benkoj6581 lol what are you talking about?
Silly comment, have you actually watched him play? He's been laughably bad
The thing is, Todd Boehly's Chelsea is the worst team for a developing footballer. You are on monster wage, surrounded by mercenaries, under the microscopic scrutiny of media and fans, your boss happy to replace you at anytime with a younger prospect. Even if Mudryk has world class potential, he is not going to get anywhere near it at Chelsea
He just doesnt have world class potential
@@johannespitkamaki1369he does, and we all saw it before Chelsea happened to him. If he went to Arsenal Arteta would have made him a beast by now.
Players should learn that money isn't everything.
@@valourpeters6714 he just doesnt 😂😂 u and ur potentials fukin donkey😂😂 and arteta has made haverts so good its unreal
Well Mudryk isn't on huge wages, he's not even in top 10 in Chelsea @@valourpeters6714
Exactly! That is why they should have never gone in for him.
The problem is that gym video if you’ve seen it you know exactly what i mean
You can’t elaborate for those who don’t know🙄
@@s3precision750 some man was exercising at the gym and his his shorts had slipped down and the guy obviously didn’t notice and instead of tell him Mudryk decided to film him and post it online
@@kaidenhall2718oh yeah he got called out by that Joey Swoll
Tells you everything you need to know about the headless chicken
@@kaidenhall2718 damn glad we dodged a bullet then😂 (Arsenal)
Why oh why did Mudryk go to Chelsea over Arsenal. Arteta had a plan for him and he chose/was coersed into choosing the money. Bet hes regretting that now smh
There is no problem with mudryk. The problem is the price chelsea paid for him lol.
Even wothout his price tag he's still crap
It's his fault to go to the wrong side of London🤡🤡
But you say he's crap so why does it matter where he goes? You know he's good but lacks confidence that's all it is l. De Zerbi rates him highly from shaktar and if poch stop playing Chilwell as a winger then he will get better, guy hasn't even played a full 90mins
He needs a run of games
I still remain convinced that Mudryk was a Boehly signing and not a Potter signing. I think he saw how eager Arsenal was to sign him and thought, like you, 'oh, well Arsenal are good at scouting talent - let's go for this guy then'.
You have a typo in the title. It says "Problem" instead of "Problems".
Mudryk wanted Arsenal and still does imo. When Chelsea offered that money and the game for Ukraine, he had to go Chelsea. How bad would that look if he said no? His attitude at Chelsea is poor.
imo it didn't matter if it was chelsea or arsenal he just wanted london
Its called hate buying players, needed by rival fans
With Chelsea's recent association with Russia's Roman Abramovich. If Mudryk really cared so much about Ukraine, he should have gone to Arsenal instead. But he didn't. He went to Chelsea for more money instead. Tells you a lot about his priorities.
@@temporaryuseraccount0012 wow i forgot about all that. mydrik is sabotaging chels
he just wanted to go to top-club, he isn't Arsenal fan or smth, and I assume he don't want that after laser thing. You should check his interview 3 weeks ago, guy said something like: I don't know why they hate me that much, I didn't played for them and didn't done anything bad to that club
I think the problem with Mudryk is Chelsea seem to have bought him with no plan in mind other than that a rival wanted him
Bholry is getting destroyed the same way he achieved his dark success
The buy everyone with know plan and long may it go on
Looks like Arsenal have got away with this one. Where is the player everyone has been talking up, could it be the case of wrong club wrong time
The problem with Mudryk is that he is a very raw talent and was bought by Chelsea with no plan for him or how he would be utilized in a Chelsea side that was not functioning, not to mention constantly changing managers. Mudryk is a signing for Todd, not a signing for Chelsea. I guess Todd can celebrate signing him as getting one over Edu or a political Ukrainian player raising his national flag over previously Russian owned Chelsea.
You decided to sign a player for 90 mill who had played fewer professional games than Jude Bellingham had played for Birmingham City at 17…when he was 22. Older than Foden and Saka. That was always an absolutely bonkers decision and I said that at the time
The problem is Rory, is that he wanted Arsenal. We bidded the same as Chelsea but Shaktar felt that Chelsea’s instalments were more realistic than Arsenal’s. You also probably offered him more money in wages but he wanted us and not Chelsea. At the end of the day we signed Trossard who is also a great player so it wasn’t too bad
If he really wanted to join Arsenal then he would’ve done that
Mudryk is a kid surrounded by many other kids. He is a player that needs guidance and advice from veteran players. So much expectations on his shoulders where if he played for someone like Everton he'd probably shine.
Entirely his fault. Could’ve came to Arsenal and not picked dirty russian money. Total karma.
@@jamest9395I forgot that Todd Boehly was Russian
@@jamest9395Todd bohley, the Russian billionaire.
@@jamest9395 tbf to him, Shakhtar were the ones who rejected our advances. So it was imperative that he would make the big step to the PL instead of playing the waiting game, or worse, staying there for another season.
Carney is still a kid and good, no excuses if youre not the pitch, youre old enough
The issue is he's not getting any minutes to get a feel for the PL + develop team chemistry. He's barely been given a chance; I can't remember the last time he started a game and it's hard to make an impact coming on for 15 mins when you haven't had game time in weeks. We have to stop signing players and not giving them opportunities and time to show their worth. We've done this before with Salah and De Bruyne, and both went on to become 2 of the best PL players of this generation. Another player I wish we kept was Billy Gilmour who is now doing really well at Brighton - he had so much potential but we never played him.
Very nicely pointed. .. Mudryk has not given chances and been sidelined from his position...last season Cucurrela was not giving him pass and everyone has shown it ... Club is really not in good shape.. bad management and so much internal politics .. I'm personally also think Reece don't deserve to be captain .. James and Chillwell were nowhere when club actually needed them ..James only played 12 games last season and this season he has been made captain .. huge disrespect for Thiago Silva ...shame
If Bholey buys a club in Rwanda,
No player will be injured and we will starting wining 5-0
lol, we solve the problem by giving him game time in his position and occasionally playing to his strengths (pace, directness, two footed shooting) or playing him in his position and allow him time to acclimate to poch’s style of play..
playing chilwel over him simply doesn’t solve anything for the team and it certainly doesn’t help mudryk’s confidence… it’s really not that hard, he has to be trusted to play.
Simple! Chilwell offers absolutely nothing playing as a winger.
If he goes to another team, he will become a star there. He needs his manager. He's a good winger
Nah
Happy for you to have him hoping for your sake that he never comes good 😊😊😊
Pulisic playing in his position wins Milan’s player of the month in his first month😭 replaced by this Mudryk fella im crying
Hilarious lol
"I'm desperate for it to work." That's basically every Chelsea fan's opinion of Chelsea right now.
As an Arsenal fan I fell in love with Mudryk's highlights when we were linked to him. He even looked unreal against Real Madrid while playing on the counter. He has world class talents but he is obviously very raw and inexperienced. He will regress unless he's given minutes with clear instructions. You simply have to at least give him 30 minutes off the bench every week. Otherwise he'll never learn to be a footballer. Ideally he needs to start too to improve. I still think Arteta would have got a tune out of Mudryk if he signed him.
Nah. Anyone can look good on highlights and on the counter with loads of space. Fact is, Mudryk's basic fundamentals are horrific. I'm so delighted we didn't sign him because he would've been another Fablo Viera and Sambi Lokonga, just another overhyped "young prospect."
@@BubblesChika Mudryk was really good at Shakhtar, difference is he was their star player thus he had sky high confidence in games where he single handedly destroyed RM/other top European teams out wide, he created the spaces himself, he should of went to a club like Dortmund where he could of established himself. EPL was too big of a step up for him, and current Chelsea squad harmony is so shit you could put 22 year old Messi in there and they still wouldn't make it into top 4.
@@tyrus1686 Difference is, he also had plenty of space to operate in on the counter, too. I don't think he would've made it anywhere.
He's just not intelligent or technical enough. Explosive pace is really the only thing he has to his game
@@BubblesChika Guess Arteta doesn't know better than you.
@@BubblesChikabro, please don't even try to insinuate that Fabio Viera is a flop, dude is going to be a giant for us this season just you wait my guy.
The issue with the player/ manager chemistry is exactly what happened with Pepe. Not saying he would have been a roaring success but Pepe didn't suit Arteta 's style of play and was finished.
Chelsea need to buy more premier league proven players, or just proven players as a whole. I know they were close with Olise, but as a palace fan I’m surprised they haven’t gone for Eze.
I remember seeing him for the first time against Liverpool and I immediately thought, wow, this kid could be special.
I don't think mudryk will ever get over the regret not playing under arteta who made it clear he was wanted and would of been made special
Background bunnies an adorable touch Rory ;). There's certainly still time but with each passing month, if the status quo remains as is, well ... very, very grim indeed. Trossard has been miles better the last 9 months.
He needs a run of games to be fully judged he showed signs on his debut and preseason (yes I know it’s just preseason) but there’s no doubt the jury out on him. I do think hes a confidence player. Chilly needs to be moved back to LB. Bournemouth is a great game for mudryk to be given a chance.
Yeah exaclty! People like rory calling him a flop but in his own words he has only completed 90mins once. Well thats hardly giving him a chance is it. Give him a run of starts and leave him on. Let him settle into the team rather than being worried one missed chance means being taken off or benched next week. Its absurd and i support arsenal. Seeing the same thing with Haverts (arsenal fans moaning) but i like arteta attitude towards him as he is basically saying fuck everyone else you are my guy and i get the feeling we will see the best out of him soon.
@@deanv5796 yeah I like Rory but he can be harsh and sometimes there’s a lack of thoughtfulness in his words. I agree with arteta backing, the only thing I would say, havertz at Chelsea was never played in the right position and I think it’s happening again at arsenal (however at arsenal they have a winning formula that shouldn’t be changed for one player). Havertz should be player behind a striker. Perfect example would be as a Chelsea fan when we 4231 after the first CL win we had hazard mata oscar. Havertz should be mata. Without a doubt havertz will succeed somewhere because he’s a very good player.
@@joshhamer5076yeah i do agree with you as thats where i think his best position is and i was shocked when we signed him not because he doesn't have the talent but just because he was never replacing odegaard and we already got players like smith rowe and vieira who like that role the best but can't get a look in.
Tbf though i do get the cm role as he has all the attributes for it. Iwas suprised by his work rate and how well he actually wins the ball back weirdly its been the offensive side that he has struggled but hoping thats just a confidence thing.
As for mudryk i think he will come good somewhere but may just not be chelsea. I also think he struggles at arsenal because he is not going to be ahead of martinelli anytime soon, was shocked we pushed for him so hard anyway but they must of seen something in him especislly if they maybe thought his ceiling is higher than martinellis to spend that much.
He would never have been this bad if he had come to Arsenal.
Are you delusional Arsenal haven't even won a European Cup stfu😂😂
He's Useless
He didn't chose Chelsea over arsenal mate. Shakhtar were the decision maker. Arsenal and Chelsea offered similar amount but Arsenal's with £20m in add ons that were almost impossible like 200 appearence, winning the PL and champions league semi finals etc. He was begging Edu to match Chelsea's offer until the last minutes mate. But yes you won that one and remember Shakhtar doesn't have a return policy, they are not covered with Trading Standards Act😅😅
Enjoy Kai Havertz. He bagged us a ucl, super cup and cwc. 3 trophies in 3 years..
@@IamwhatyousayiamEnjoy? You should be kissing our feet for the next ten years for taking him of your backs
@Iamwhatyousayiam ha ha yes. Wait until he blends in. He's only had 4 games and I anticipate him to start firing by the 10 games mark if not before. He's replacing Xhaka as a box to box MF in a tiki taka system, will need time to adjust to that. Took Xhaka some times too. If he score now, his confidence will raise and that can accelerate it. By next season I see him as one of the most important players in the team, mark my words for it
Choosing Chelsea is to choose a rapid decline in your potential as a player, such as the malaise in that club.
For Mudryk its extreme but honestly: Chelsea record of developing talents isn`t very good. Sure the academy is great but for senior players especially transfers,players come in and for most of the time they don`t develop/become better or even decline.This wasn`t so bad because mostly they bought the finished article but the list of talented players who came to Chelsea and stopped becoming better is huge. I know some will now cite Hazard and others, I didn`t say they never develop I said many many players stagnate. In comparison to e.g. Dortmund, Brighton, Arsenal (Wenger years) , Ajax Chelsea doesn`t seem to be able to be as good at developing. Might be that they want instant success ...but its a theme even if Mudryk is an extreme example but far from the only one .
Have you ever tought some ruben butt cheeks and others among murdick are just fucking bad players thats why they dont become anything
Mudryk has been huge flop I'm sorry around 90 mil chelsea paid for him 1 assist in his chelsea career
When I was 21 years old I was fighting as a Mercenary in then Rhodesia . Age is only a number what matters is what’s between your ears.
Send him on loan for him to regain confidence. There is a good player in Mudryk, but he needs minutes and the right environment, neither of which Chelsea can currently provide.
The problem is all about the finances of it. He should’ve been a 20 million euro transfer but instead shaktar played an absolute blinder and got a kings random
Ransom 😂
@@WeanerBeaner69 thank you Steph
Pochettino isn’t as good with youth as people think… he likes a small squad, and only brought through 1 youth player in his last 4 years at the club
Everyone else was sent out on loan. Pochettino is an intensity manager, if he sees a player isn’t up for it he gets them toward the exit door
You cannot take his performances from last season and apply the same theory this season. The whole club last year was horrendous. This young man hasn’t been given any real chance this season. Preseason he looked really dangerous on that left hand side. The issue really is us playing a 3 at the back. Switch to a 4231 and Mudryk will flourish on the left.
Grealish scored what, 5 goals in his first season at city? He’s now one of the best wingers in the prem. I’m not saying Mudryk will be the best winger this time next year but we need to give him a chance and he will prove the doubters wrong
With all respect Rory it’s case of a player at a team he 100% doesn’t want to be at, remember he only went to Chelsea because Todd played the check-book game
Mudryk needs to be played consistently for a run of games, we can’t judge him when all he gets is subbed on when we are loosing and then all the pressure is on him to change the game, let him start and he will show us why people rave about him
Same thing that happened to Pulisic
Him choosing chelsea over arsenal is like caicedo & lavia choosing chelsea over liverpool look where all of them are now
I compare this Mudryk transfer to when Liverpool got Lazar Markovic from Benfica way back. Similar Styles & Massive Question marks on if they'll ever adapt
Mudryk is bigger deal. While
Lazar was potential future star, nowhere close as much pressure as Mudryk
Markovic was 19 million not 100 million
@@erosion271different time
Different markets
Alan shearer was £15m
Loved markovic back in the day
I’m a Manchester United fan it’s so similar to Antony situation so much talent and promise but yet to show it
I think its simple… he didn’t want to go to Chelsea. He probably would’ve been a hit if he joined Arsenal cause his heart would’ve been in it.
As a Chelsea fan, the problem is not with the players, but it is with the club. If these players signed for City or Arsenal or Liverpool, the conversation around them would be so different. Someone like Szoboszlai would be talked about so differently if he had signed for Chelsea. Let's face it, these players aren't the ones ruining our club, our club is ruining them and their careers.
He's just very very very raw, I'm an Arsenal fan by the way. The thing is, young players in that bracket of 18-24 years of age are still learning their trade. If he's not playing how do you expect him to develop, what can you expect them to do in 20/30 min when they do feature? You also have to remember Chelsea's transfer policy is unforgiving for giving players time to develop, its about success and performing right now and not in a couple seasons time. Chelsea under Todd have been recruiting young players in that bracket of 18-24 years of age so the project is looking to be successful in 2/3 years times rather than right now. Poch is also under pressure so why is he going to rely on him when he knows he's inconsistent and unknown. The best thing for him this summer was to go on loan somewhere, get that gametime in an develop if he was never going to start consistently under Poch. I thought it was quite odd we were willing to spend 80 million on a player who was always going to be back up to Martinelli and Saka.
face it, Mudryk was just a front for US to send money to Ukraine...
@@goonerOZZSo paying 100mil to the Ukrainian oligarch Akhmetov (Shakhtar owner) is supposed to help Ukraine somehow? I don't want to ruin your outstanding conspiracies, you sound like a guy who believes in flat earth just because you want to feel special.
@@mikesteinberg5891 you really think if he was that good other clubs won't hover around him? It was only 2 American owned club that approached him.
Both willing to pay highly over the market price for an unproven youngster that apparently had ONE good match against Madrid.
Everything about that transfer is just odd and now we truly see that the player himself is just your average championship level player.
For me I'm just glad that Boehly is the one biting the bullet.
He never chose Chelsea, he was forced into the Chelsea move by his club for 💰
Yes mate but has he EVER actually played 3 games back to back without interruption or subs? Not 5 or 10 or more, just 3? No is the answer. He will never find form by being chopped and changed and the sample sizes of his performances are too small for statistical significance. He needs some tough love, some statistical rigour and a run of games. Until he gets that, the onus lies on Chelsea to build a platform for him to succeed.
Arsenal fans can barely take Havertz playing consistently for ~4 games. You think Chelsea fans will be okay with a Mudryk playing but not scoring for 4 games? Doubt.
He’s been given a chance and managers go off what they see . If they see him coming on and being the difference, he would start next game. Are you saying you are satisfied with his little cameos to warrant him starting ?
agents, backhanders, favours. Arsenal were stung by Pepe. Despite that - hope it works out for him.
It's hard for a player to reach his potential when he's playing 15 minutes a game
I agree don't think he can be as ineffective as Chilwell playing as a winger.
Your diagram has Chilwell as wing-back when he is pretty much playing as far forward as Jackson. Also, as Silva has confirmed on social media, it is a back four (Gusto at right-back, Silva and Disasi as centre-backs, Colwill as LB) rather than a back three.
So reactionary, he will come good I know it. He’s shown glimpses of a solid player, he needs time and experience.
Lololol. Shown glimpses, in 9 months?
@@abdullah087 he’s only played 600 minutes for the club in total, in all reality that’s not a lot. Many players struggle in new leagues and need time to adapt. He will come good.
to be fair, i thought that mason mount on course to become top5 in the world, yet here we are. I think its not just about the player, its also about the club's role that developing them. Chelsea currently is not the club ideal for young talent, dortmund brighton maybe the place to go.
I honestly believe if Trossard went Chelsea and Mudryk went Arsenal then Mud would be doing alright and Tross would be struggling. Chelsea got to be the hardest club to settle at in the world right now
And you'd be dead wrong then. I don't get this blind, deluded faith that Arteta would've "somehow" moulded an awful footballer into a good player considering both Sambi Lokonga and Fablo Viera, two similar young prospects, have struggled under him
Don’t underestimate Chelsea’s ability to make world class players once they leave Chelsea.
I agree with other comments that he wanted to be at Arsenal. Unfortunately, he's Ukrainian and that means that some people were using him to get a cut and blackmail a young man. He's also a committed Christian and I think people play on this so he ended up at a club he didn't want to be at and a club which is utterly dysfunctional.
One of the problems that Poch changed the formation and plays without wingers. Second is that he has limited functionality and the last one based on what he said in the interviews in Ukrainian media, he has been struggling in terms of communication, mentality of the people in the UK is way different and a lot of media pressure on him. I honestly would prefer him to go on a loan to Brighton where De Zerbi can fully open his potential.
i think its unfair to single out mudryk. yes he came with high expectations and a high price tag, but so did alot of other players. Sterling just started to preform after over a year at the club and had a high pricetag. alot of players did. in mudryks case he hasnt really got the chance to proove himself in a system that works for him. look at the banger he scored during the preseason. the guy can score, but he hasnt really gotten the minutes to show it. it doesnt work to play him the last 10-15 minutes.
I love Rory, but when he said Mudryks only 90 mins was a 2-1 loss to brighton and I could see the life leave his eyes I laughed so hard
Seems Arsenal dodged a bullet with Mudryk.
The problem is that his style of play suits a counter-attacking side where he has a lot of space to run into. Unfortunately, Chelsea is not that type of team.
You lot should try to get West Ham to buy him off you! 😂
Mudryk is my favourite player as he chose us over Arsenal. Your favourite player doesn’t have to be the best player
Hazard was an awful trainer but he turned up in games. I think some players are like that. Poch should just try him out and give him a run of games. He should tweak the policy of "who trains well, plays" and try these players.
Mudryk is a soft soy boy version of Adama Traore. Them both can run, and that’s all.
He hasn’t done really anything and no one else were willing to pay that type of money because no one else are idiots
Man was mesmerised when mudryk ran past milner. Nice one mate
Mudryk is like your Sancho m8, except he has a bit less time at your club
Chose Chelsea over the Arsenal? Watch his latest interview with the Ukrainian media where he said something like: “I don’t want to get in the details, but I explained what happened to Zinchenko and he replied with ahh, I see.”
You forgot to mention he signed an 8 year deal Rory .. thats the negativity of giving them longterm deals, he's set for life now,
He didn’t choose Chelsea arsenal wouldn’t offer the same as what Chelsea offered aha
Players watch UA-cam too. Do you think that they want to see these videos? You are really helping that man's confidence now
He is quick, but seems to lack the ability to control the ball.
You've got Cole Palmer, WTF are you worryin about?
Calling a spade a spade; Mudryk doesn’t want to be at Chelsea. He wanted to move to Arsenal. His heart isn’t in it.
He doesn't have any problem apart from management! He needs to play 90 minutes every game for at least Five game. He needs to know that he can make mistakes and still get picked the next day. That's the only way to unlock the "Mbampe" in him. He can be a really world class player. We can also end up destroying his career.. I just don't understand this 5minutes ,10 minutes here and there .That's never going to help! I just Hate Pochitino for his style so far, and especially for the way he has treated this player.
How do you expect him to score goals while on the bench? Or last 10 minutes when teams are already defending for their lives cuz they are either ahead or are just happy to get a draw.
Exactly
This was one of the problems CHO and pulisic faced
Tuchel dropped him after a mistake and was willing to sub him when he came of the bench which makes the players want to play safe and not take risk and do their thing
He didn’t choose you… you just bidded more 🤣
Give it some time. It was just a handful of PL games under Poch, I believe he wants Mudric to get fit for PL before putting him under pressure. We will see him shining, it just needs some time.
Would Mudryk be a better player at another club? Would he live up to the potential if he were at a club that were more concerned with developing instead of the finished article? Brighton for example? Just a question.
Mudryk signed up for turmoil and inconsistency when he joined Chelsea over Arsenal killed his progression and development for the dollar
Mudryk bagged a brilliant goal against Brighton in pre-season and was excellent throughout pre-season, seemed very confident. However now in the new season it just seems to be the same mudryk we saw last season…
The only this Chelsea "saw" In Mudryk was exactly that Arsenal were sniffing around for him
‘We must have seen something, we gave him the longest contract in PL history’….or Chelsea found a loophole in Fair Play rules?
If history is anything to go by, you'll sell him to Arsenal for about £80 million and Arteta will promise to transform him....
He is a potential talent who is getting trained by crappy coaches (not just managers). Didnt the end of Abrahamovic also cause most of the coaching staff to leave as well?
As you have said. He has only played 90 minutes once. Give him 6, 90 minutes, a clear role with instructions and he will play himself into form.
You can't keep dropping him. Sterling played himself into form, Caicedo will play himself into form. If we give him the same game time as Havertz and he doesn't perform. Then he is a flop.
Better sell as soon as possible. His value diminishes every week, and he becomes harder to move on every week. If Chelsea hangs onto him for another year then it’s going to be very difficult to move him on. It’ll probably end up with his contract being terminated, which will be enormously costly.
Arsenal will take him on the cheap in a year and Arteta will turn him into a monster.
Transfer window is closed. Unless Chelsea can sell him to the Middle-East
Let's give him this season b4 we jump ahead.
No chance with that prison sentence you gave him
Apparently, Chelsea offered him up to Arsenal in exchange for ESR. Our fanbase was like nah if you sell ESR especially to a direct rival there will be hell.
Mydryk was so highly praised when he came on vs Liverpool in the first match, what happened? He was your best player that match for sure. since then he has fallen off a cliff
Bro he was running away from a war zone , now he is comfortable and without motivation