Why is nobody stating the obvious. Tom is only trying to get back in the friend group because Rachel didn't come back. He had already made his choice and gave up his relationship with all of the group to be with her. He doesn't really care about those relationships. He is only trying to make connections again because she bailed. If Rachel was back all these other relationships would be past tense for him and he wouldn't be looking back. Don't be fooled. His final statement that the end was great for him and he loved it says a lot about the way he is thinking.
Tom would still be fighting for his place in the group even if Rachel returned. He needs to be the center of the world. He’d just be doing it with her by his side and honestly, he would have succeeded faster because the misogyny question would have been removed.
And showed his true colours. He didnt get his own way when Arianna walked out so he threw her under the bus AGAIN. If Lala and Schaena dont understand that is who he really is (a narcissist) and want to be friends with both him and Arianna, it will only not end well for them. Arianna is staying true to herself. Lala put up boundaries around her ex, she should respect Arianna for doing the same.
How was walking out a slap in the face?? That's insane.. the party was over.. she told production she wouldnt talk to him. He shouldve never approaced her like that. It was psychotic
Her walking out is what made the episode because if we had to stand there and listen to that man fake cry and give another half assed apology. I was gonna lose it. 😂
Production manipulated you all saying there will be no show. They were wrong. The viewers watched to see something authentic not something contrived. This is why we supported Ariana and Katie and James. A show about breaking the 4th wall can work.
Tom said on watch what happens live immediately after the show that he lied when he said that Ariana didn't care about any of the cast and that she didn't like them. He admitted it was a lie.
Thank you!! It was obvious it was a lie just to make Ariana look bad because he was pissed he couldn't have his "moment" filmed with her for his fake redemption arc. Someone on Twitter put it best with him: because he now has zero control or access to Ariana (and it drives him nuts), he now wants to control how other people see her.
Ariana made a deal with production after she spoke with Tom when cameras picked back up after the scandal. The did speak. She's done speaking to him after that. She's at all the events with him present. She's not being avoidant.. shes just not letting production manipulate the situation in his favor
Then Ariana signed another contract. She gave nothing this season because she is still stubborn. When stassi walked out because they wanted her to talk to Jax and she didn’t the next season there was no stassi. Clearly they have a contractual obligation to have these talks. Fans are forgetting the way this show works. Ariana should leave if she can’t handle being in the work space she has signed on for. We all want Tom gone but he isn’t going anywhere so Ariana needs to buck up or walk away. She is so cocky now so if she thinks she can stand alone without this show then bye!! Scheanas pregnancy journey and post partum is far more important to talk about and go through than this highschool drama that should have been expected since she started out cheating with Tom. Not to mention she lied up and down for years about the beginning of that relationship and completely allowed the audience to believe kristen was crazy. She is calculated and Scheana deserves better. K take care!
@@christinasanchez4278 she gave everything to season people love her I like, seeing a woman sitting boundaries and actually holding to them. Walking away was great her screaming at him on the beach. Great, he deserved it. I was here for her all season her Katie and James were the only reason I could watch the season
@@tracim3080 she absolutely has the right to create boundaries. She doesn’t have a right to dictate how the show operates. The season stassi walked off for not talking to Jax was followed by a season without stassi. The rules must apply to all. She isn’t extra special she has a job and in that job there are expectations and she chose to walk away so that means she should be off the show. She is only well liked because a lot of women have been scorned the way she was. Her overall presence seemed burdened and bothered. Infact she has never acted interested in the show and has always gone under the radar for her snarky comments and mannerisms. Sorry but I disagree with ya. Take care!
@@christinasanchez4278Stassi was left go because of what she did to Faith not Jax! Her racist ways got her fired PERIOD!! Ariana stated in her contract that she will not interact with Tom so if production didn’t like it, they should’ve said something before the contract was signed. Otherwise, I am so proud of this woman. She stood her ground!!
After this whole season, for Scheana to say that Ariana’s walking away was a “slap in the face” to everyone is delusional. I hope Ariana sees this and stays away from these people. She’s supposed to torment herself by speaking to her stressor for you all? What about her mental health? You don’t care about that anymore?
Ariana being allegedly $u¡¢¡D@£ was used as an excuse for Tom's behaviour & Tom being allegedly $u¡¢¡D@£ was also used as an excuse for Tom's behaviour - so gross.
It would be different if Tom only had a one night stand.. it would be different if he was remorseful, it would be different if Tom didn't put her health at risk by sleeping around and still sleeping with her, it would be different if Rachel didn't sue Ariana for what Tom did. Tom seems to be the chaos not Ariana
Sheena, you asked Tom if you were going to look like an idiot because of him in the final episode there and I have your answer for you. You did look like an idiot but because of you because you decided to side with that guy again and again, no matter how many times you told us that he hurt you not just Ariana You let him buy your friendship right in front of us and we got to watch you toss Ariana side like her cheering you on, and actually being a friend you meant absolutely nothing because she didn’t spend money on you and doesn’t like to party as much You decided she needed to hear his apology, even though, if you had to tell him to apologize, it’s not a real apology and you had no business doing that You can’t tell us that Tom hurt you and that we need to think about your feelings and tell us that you need to forgive Tom because you can’t hold a grudge for Ariana sake You had your own issues with him that you needed to admit you and own up to and hold him accountable for not sweep under the rug and blame Ariana every time you got mad
It’s now evident to most of us that it doesn’t matter what Ariana did this season because it was already set. The fans saw it for what it was. A farce. Nothing this season made any logical sense and it felt produced and inauthentic, but LVP chose her side which is always the Toms. production chose to redeem Tom and villainise Ariana and majority of the cast were jealous and insecure and chose to back the wrong person. Ariana was going to be the villain because that was always the plan. That’s what society wants. Redemption for the man and make the woman the villain. They did it to Faith, Laura Leigh, Katie, Kristen, Stassi, Jo, Rachel, even the people defending Sandoval like Scheana and Lala for gods sake! Coming down hard on the women while always redeeming Jax, James, Sandoval and Schwartz. Their biggest mistake though was underestimating the fans and how much society has changed. The fans dont fall for the same tricks anymore and we are more tv savvy. We want justice when injustice is done and don’t want to see misogyny rewarded anymore. It’s not cute. Now that’s on period #PumpRules #VanderpumpRules
YES! Pop off!! I was looking forward to this season where all the girls supported each other and their business endeavours, and we got to see the Toms shunned to the sidelines for their pathetic behaviour. Instead it just showed the division in the cast - real friends v people who will do anything for a paycheck. Guess we know which one Scheana is. Sad.
Dayum!! Flat out the best comment to explain the clusterf**k of a season!! Exactly how we have all been feeling !! Like we have entered the damn twilight zone!! I think that is why there is so much back and forth on social media...Production hit a nerve with this b.s. We are tired of the freaking lies, manipulation and misogyny!!! Everything you said!!❤❤❤❤❤
Scheana crying to Ariana: “I love you so much I don’t want to loose you” *2 minutes later* Talking massive 💩 w/ Lala & Tom about how much of a terrible person and friend Ariana is
Im glad she had Janet on who can vouch for what Matt Rogers and the rest of the audience is seeing. We're over the misogony from bravo. Centering these toxic men and letting women fall to the wayside. This should have been a slam dunk season with the girls rallying around Ariana. The fact that production didnt find a problem with the storyline direction is concerning. what was edited out at @27:43
AGREED!!!! These shows are all tanking for this reason. Why doesn’t Bravo listen to their fans!!!?! We want to see women come TOGETHER, the old storylines are outdated
What a joke you guys made out of the show and fans this season. It is so dark when you really put it in perspective. Ariana had her partner and friend betray her in such a terrible way. Only to then have 2 more friends use her pain against her and make her feel the betrayal all over again. How she trusts a soul at this point is a miracle.
Sheana and Lala, I so liked you last season and I am so disappointed in you both this season. You both are the biggest back stabbers I have ever seen. Such a bad look for you 2 mom's.
Yeah, it was dark and gross especially when they started tossing shade at the idea of a woman fighting for her property like a woman fighting for her legally, entitled property is somehow just the most awful thing a woman can do Only bitter and crazy women apparently fight for their legally entitled property according to Sheena and Lala
L&S were determined to get Ariana out of her own home. Why? So Scumdoval could move Raquel in and get her back on the show. That way he could afford to keep the house and create an instant storyline. They were all in on it, except Katie and James. They’re a den of snakes!!! But Ariana and Raquel didn’t play ball. 🤣So funny, cos it was all for nothing. 😂
That's what real friends do... Just what Janet did right here. Also, Janet was saying she was doing the same thing with Kristen, setting boundaries for her well being. Why not tell her she needs to film with Kristen?
@@Roz-y2d I don’t think she’s getting a season 12 The only people left worth watching are Ariana, Katie and James because they’re the only ones that actually stuck to behaving like adults who weren’t trying to overproduces show Pretty sure the show is just going to cut their losses and hire a new crew
@@tracim3080Agreed! I would LOVE to watch it with Ariana, Katie, and James! I’m tired of stressful, gossipy, mean-spirited TV. I want to see these people having FUN together and figuring out their issues with integrity and some common sense
@@tracim3080well if there isn’t a season 12 I’ll be ok with that. The show is not entertaining anymore. I just realised that it’s no longer funny like it used to be. I haven’t laughed properly once this season.🙁
A slap in the face? Scheana, you talked crap about Ariana with your BFF Lala the ENTIRE SEASON! You value Tom Sandoval despite him never valuing you and treating you like dirt. You certainty never valued Ariana despite her treating you like a sister. Maybe if you stopped making EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU for a second, Scheana, you might realize that. By the way, you can make a fist.
THANK YOU JANET, she made so much sense and saw right through Toms lame last attempt to have them turn on Ariana. Tom sandoval literally stormed out when he found out the lyrics in your song, did that feel like a slap in the face and Eff all your jobs? If your job is that dependant on someone having a conversation with their ex then maybe you need to reevaluate your job and small role you must play in VPR. VPR most likely wouldn't have been renewed had Ariana not told production to start filming when the affair happened, so you should all be thanking her you had one last kick and were able to purchase what? 2 homes in the last year thanks to her.
Doing your job is also meant to be reality and not just be having a conversation on camera so as a viewer it made no sense for Ariana to talk to Tom which is why people thought Lala was being shady because it showed she did things for the camera just like Tom.
Schena, I'm disappointed in you. Tom Scandavol literally said on camera that you hit Rachel. He could have potentially had you doing time in jail for battery. I don't give a a got D how much money he loaned you or gave you during the pandemic. I'm done with you if you try to play with my family, my freedom, my money. That is unforgivable. If LaLa was your friend Schena, she would be standing right there with Katie & Ariana helping you to understand this man tried to assist you in catching a case. Wake tf up Schena.
I just want to know what Scheana does with her money? Why does she need Tom paying her bills all the time. Girl has a 10 year music background and can’t afford to hire a sound guy?
, I have these same questions. She was so broke she needed a couple thousand dollar from Sandoval. Bizarre right? She acted like Sandoval’s sound guy was the best gift ever. Girl, don’t you have a band? They don’t have a sound person? AND Brock went on and on about everything Tom does for them. That turned me off so badly. Brock seems awfully comfy taking money and gifts from Sandoval. My husband would not be down with some other dude doing this, never mind being happy about it.
@@jakestroll6518 well, she paid off all of Brock’s back child support so that probably took a huge chunk And her first husband was a drug addict too drained all her accounts
The irony of this conversation taking place with Janet...who on the most recent episode of the Valley is refusing to film with Kristen...who sure as hell didn't do anything close to what Tom did.
There have been multiple cheating scandals, births, marriages, divorces on this show and it never got the attention or ratings it has now. Instead of thinking Ariana gave a slap in the face and eff your jobs, you should be never ending thanking her that you got a little extra fame off her pain. The fact that you and Lauren bought houses off gossiping off her life and then turned and got mad at her in the end is INSANE.
@@maryjanedodo the fact that Tom pointed that out pretty crazy!! He's not wrong! But these girls just keep Ariana's name in their mouth!! Make it make sense !! Please!!
How can you say Ariana doesn’t like you or is talking 💩 about you when she said you were her family?!?! How can you believe anything that Sandoval says but not Ariana?
Her brain is broken. Coz after a season of bashing Ariana on camera, including supporting Lalas vicious rant, she’s now mad that Ariana ALLEGEDLY vented about their friendship privately to her own partner?
Scheana, listen to what Matt is saying. He is describing Katie as a friend. That is the kind of loyalty and the kind of friend Katie is. She doesn't tell you what you want to hear she tells you what you need to hear. Please see that she is not a red flag. Scheana you need Katie in your life, you too are good together when you are real. Good friends don't always say the perfect thing about each other all the time, they say the truth.
Scheana you were so terrible to Ariana in the final. She called you an idiot? Lie. As soon as she walked away from you and Tom you ratted her out to Tom. Admit you do not like Ariana. Tom admitted on WWHL he lied about Ariana not liking them and you just ignore the truth. To fit your narrative. You could not be surprised your ‘friendship’ is over. Go make ‘friends’ on the Valley. If they will have you. I am sure Jax and Brock will bond. 😂
For goodness sake Scheana, just admit you’re a hopeless judge of character because you are so desperate to be best friends with everyone. There was absolutely no need for you and lala to carry on the way you did. You both looked crazy jealous.
I genuinely thought Scheana was being intentionally obtuse as some sort of schtick on VPR. After tuning in to her podcast, I realize that this is not an act. Scheana seriously teared up at the thought of Ariana talking behind her back after how she behaved this season. Why is it Ariana's responsibility to take care of the cast when the cast is not taking care of her? The betrayal is so deep and has so many layers. And production threatening to cancel the show if you didn't fall in line, why would anyone believe that after the numbers season 10 brought in? It doesn't make any sense and was a clear manipulation tactic. Maybe it feels different if your in it. How did Katie, James and Ally make it through without selling out Ariana? Just proves it was possible to film with Sandoval and not destroy Ariana in the process.
Sheana just wants everyone to like her, but she doesn't seem very adept at being able to see things from other peoples perspectives. She seems like she's hugely popular and connected socially with A LOT of people in the bravo extended universe & is clearly very extroverted - but having as many friends + acquaintances as she has means your friendships are inevitably going to be a bit shallow...
@@Roz-y2d Yes, and that's just sad. You know what's even sadder? That production continually manipulates the weak (Scheana/Lala/Brock) into thinking that what they are doing is in the best interest of the show and they fall for it every time. Production counts on their vanity and a bit of their stupidity to make sense of the senseless. It's why they look like tools every season and they keep coming back unchanged. Sensible people would take what they've learned and apply it moving forward. James learned, Katie learned, Ariana learned so this is why they are seeing the viewers rally behind them. It's not rocket science.
Those who watched this season saw that there was probably no true friendship between the girls, Ariana agreed with the production in a written contract that she did not have to be photographed in uncomfortable or staged situations. The entire team knew this and still the pair of viper snakes did not stop gossiping about her from the very beginning of the season I wonder if Ariana had called Randall's lover how Lala would have reacted? Does anyone remember that when Lala was in a relationship with Randall while he was married she refused to be photographed, reveal details and share for a very long time everyone revealed their lives except Lala In my opinion, lines have been crossed from which there is no way back Ariana needs to put Scheana and Lala in the past and not look back
Production biffed it with how they handled this season, but to totally hide behind that as the excuse for being two-faced is really disappointing. Ariana is honestly better off not coming back, it's clear Katie, James, and Ally were her only friends this season.
Scheana...why did the show depend on Ariana talking to Tom??? That would never be any woman's REALITY after what he did...you followed Blah Blah...and you looked like a bad friend. Yes a Fool!
Meh. He’s coming in soft and not putting pushback. Coz we watched Scheana say terrible things about Ariana in front of the whole world. But she’s triggered that because maybe Ariana might have privately vented about her to her bf? Really? Make it make sense, Jesus.
Girl you got some explaining to do about that final, also your husband insisting on Tom being a good friend because he spends money and not caring that he yells in your face and makes you cry is a dangerous sign for how he treats you.
Brock was saying Sandoval shows up for his friends where as Ariana hasn't been. Sounds like Ariana messages/calls the others right back but not Scheana. It's been said by Lala that Scheana has not been able to speak her truth with Ariana and Brock is trying to get Scheana to see the truth. I believe Sandoval when he said this is the Ariana I lived with yelling and set in her ways. Too bad Tom/Ariana didn't walk away when their relationship became toxic to them both.
@@carriekay4827 if your friend is repeatedly telling you, they struggle about choosing between you and a man that likes to throw past mistakes in her face, scream in her face and leave her humiliated on national television (and I’m talking about what Tom has done to Sheena not what Tom did Ariana )like if Sheena has to question which one of those people is a better friend then clearly Ariana doesn’t mean much to her As adults we have busy lives. Sometimes we don’t get right back to our friends but when our friends make it clear that money and partying, or somehow more important than my actual emotional support and talking to you on a deeper level than maybe we’re not supposed to be friends.
We all understand you're just trying to keep your paychecks flowing ... but we can see right though the lies and fakeness. Ariana is the only one being honest. That's why we liked her from the start and that's why we were so outraged when Scandavol happened in the first place.
This is true. Ariana was called boring for many years because she didn’t insert herself into drama but what that did is it made her relatable and real to us. And so when something dramatic happened to her, we cared. The love Ariana gets is 10 years of just being herself paying off.
ARIANA HAS NOT been honest since day 1 and has been fake and HAS NOT showed ALL of her relationship wit Tom bc SHE DEFF is not the same person on camera as she was behind closed doors wit Tom!!!!!! SMH SHE DEFF is fake and tried to hide the issues going on wit her and Tom, I can DEFF see where she belittled Tom behind closed doors and I can see her acting like a completely diff person off camera and NOT a good person!!! I think shes a bully and I think she DEFF was rude and nasty to Tom and short wit him and she didn't wanna address the issues in their relationship bc she was worried about losing money or losing the house and THATS why she stayed at the house for SOOO long after they broke up!!!!!! ARIANA DEFF is not the person everyone thinks she is!!!!
@@BeautyXXBrittany so I should ignore all the verbal and mental abuse. I’ve seen Tom put all of these women through over the years and just believe that Ariana was always the real problem even tho we saw him be this way with Kristen too? How gullible are you expecting us to be?
Ariana had a heart wrenching in depth convo w him onscreen right after finding out. She said “Any last words before I never speak to you again?” & she meant it.
I really was on your side and thought you had a good heart so you were trying to mediate and see both sides. You going along w/ BLA BLA and attacking Ariana was incredibly 2 faced.
It's weird for Scheana to care this much about Ariana at this point. It should've never been that much of a struggle to understand her.. THATS why people are feeling a certain way. Scheana, you'll spend your whole life waiting for people to understand you when you have such a hard time just seeing a situation for what it is and not what you want it to be.
I hope the VPR cast realizes that just because it is production doesn't make them right. They completely miscalculated what S11 should have been and what fans wanted/needed to see, and now the whole cast are casualties of their poor judgement and direction. No one needed Tom redeemed. No one needed this forced conversation they had you all were pushing for at every turn. The audience fully understood. Now we are all left confused and disappointed for different reasons .
It would have been such a good season if they just gave Tom the villain edit he deserves - he's such a himbo they would have had ample footage, all of it hillarious. I wonder if LVP made some demands or if Tom just has good dirt on producers, because the redemption arc was implausible in evey single way.
Yes! Well said! This season sucked and for the life of me I cannot imagine what any new seasons would be about and why we would care to watch. I can’t stomach Scheana, Lala, or the Toms any longer. The Tom’s make my skin crawl and Lala and Scheana chose the Tom’s. They came out and did podcasts for a year knowing full well that they kissed those losers arses during filming. It’s wild. Shows ruined.
Matt was such a great guest. I loved how knowledgeable and insightful he was, how he asked the right questions, and gave productive commentary. Definitely bring him back when you can. He clearly has all the VPR girl's best interest at heart.
Please, please, please don’t listen to Tom. It was a last ditch effort to get you all to agree with him. It’s very typical in his case. He wants to be right about everything. Ariana has every right to still be upset. And you have every right to let Tom back in. Just respect that she doesn’t want to hear about Tom. Yes it’s a show, but it’s a show about real life. I love my best friend but it would be challenging if she had stayed friends with my ex. You are a beautiful mom and wife, and I have to say this 50yr. old has enjoyed watching VPR. Just remember to always put yourself first.
I really hope Summer and Ocean find better friends than you and Lala were to Ariana. And hopefully they are the supportive and loyal friend to others. This whole season was so disappointing to see. 😢 And to think you thought the audience would be on your side…until it aired! NOW you’re backpedaling a little but still not taking full accountability for being a shitty friend, sellout, and production pet. Sheana when will you learn that you’re always on the wrong side of history? You should just start doing the opposite of what you think is right at first.
So proud of Ariana for not letting anybody bully her into talking to a toxic man!! She showed all women what strength she had sticking to her boundaries 💪🏽. 98% of podcasters and fans have been showing their support of her not letting anyone tell her how she needs to deal with her trauma!!! I loved that we all did not buy the hypocrisy you all were trying to sell us!! Ariana and Katie were definitely MVPs of VPR this season!
Scheana needs to listen to the latest episode of Ryan Bailey’s show. He spoke to a mental health professional and her opinion of Sandoval and why he gives things to his friends. IMO, you guys are right to clock Sandoval as being manipulative with what he said about Ariana bitching about everyone. He is so manipulative and he is still trying to paint her as the villain to deflect from his own actions and the consequences of these actions. This was a great episode. The guest asked some great questions.
Yeah it really was. People misconstrue narcissism with egotism far too often. I love Ryan for keeping it real even when it hurts him to do so - he clearly loves the cast, wants the best for them & is brave enough to call them out on their bs.
I wish you wouldn’t have cut the finale conversation so short. He clearly wanted to keep talking about it. Lol You know how Matt felt about the way you all treated Ariana and it would have been such a good opportunity for you to be honest with the audience and let us hear your side. Matt was as upset as the audience was at you guys, and you let him just keep his mouth shut and be polite rather than you opening an honest conversation up.
I would love to see how things would have gone if Rachel would have come back. It would have been Tom and Rachel and Tom and Jo. All the girls would have hated them and they would have been on Arianna's side. Without Rachel in the picture Scheana, Brock and LaLa went running right back to the Tom's. How sad.
Sheena you’re on a reality show not a sitcom there is no ensemble cast You guys pushing Tom on Ariana, acting like he’s some redeemed human being is what made the show feel so freaking fake We wanted real we wanted to see how adults handle that situation which, by the way is picking damn sides
Correct. It was very bizarre to those of us who’ve had divorces. If Ariana had started talking to him at the finale party, I would have assumed the affair was also scripted. They have no idea how much she’s saved the shows realness. If I want fake drama, I’ll watch a scripted soap opera.
It's so interesting to me that they see themselves as professional actors & they're part of an ensemble cast bla bla... they're not being real because they don't want to upset the viewers. Hypocrisy, not reality tv.
Swartz started dating Sophia before you started filming season 11 we know this now so everything he did with Joe was because he had already got a new girlfriend and was using Katie as an excuse to dump Joe after getting her signed up to film season 11.
Scheana, you are a really terrible friend. Your jealousy got the better of you and you looked most shady this season. You backstabbed Ariana and together with Lauren contradicted all what you stood for during last reunion.
Scheana, while it may be true that production pushed you to make nice with Tom, ultimately your priority is your paycheck and you made the choice. It's def not authentically" the friend group" and that is what is making it fall apart. I used to like you but this season, 4th wall breakage or not, I feel like your true colors are not so pretty.
Although we can see how much you wanted to believe Sandoval was being genuine it was obvious to us (Ariana’s Fans!) that he was just using you to gain likability with the group! Your acceptance meant he would gain Brock’s acceptance and then eventually weasel his way back in!! Shame on you Scheana!! STOP romanticizing your friendship with Sandoval and just admit you were wrong & manipulated into turning against your best friend for $$!!!
That's a very plausible theory - Lala & Sheana are pretty co-depemdent lately - i could see Lala's psychotic fixations influencing Sheana - especially if shes been struggling with anxiety & vulnerable / gullible
Scheana, I hope Janet can meditate between you and Ariana because I do think it is a friendship worth saving. I think Ariana understands you better than you think she does. I encourage you to consider Tom was deliberately trying to get in your head with his words in that finale moment - dare so successfully, giving the way you currently feel. No one has experienced his gaslighting more than she does. She's been unpacking all his mind games herself. Ariana knows your mind and heart, please consider this was probably something she was trying to protect you from. She knows your vulnerability and she knows what he would say/do to exploit it. Tom is a known liar and manipulator. I don't know how many more ways he has to show it. Don't let him win on this. He said one thing and somehow that has more value than the beautiful convo you had with Ariana where she reiterated that you were family and were never going to lose her? Please consider the sources and who has the credibility here.
It amazes me how she can doubt her friendship over what tom said. I had a crazy narcissistic ex who tried to do the same to my friendships because that's what they do! im so happy my friends saw threw the bs it shows me your quick to jump ships and truly don't know Ariana i would be truly offended if i was her just because a friend is busy picking up their life after so much lost!! Doesn't mean that they are a bad friend!! Sad... I feel more bad for Ariana. narcissists have the same patterns. Maybe you should learn about it so you can truly see why toms does what he does instead of thinking he's a good friend when he charms you! And then learn what it takes to get out of a relationship with a narc the effect it causes her!! Ariana is a strong B 👏 her!!
Scheana I love you, but I do hope this time away from the show can give you time to reflect, I think being on reailty tv for so long has made a lot of the cast lose a sense of what is actually reailty. I also think if you do want a relationship with Ariana,then a conversation needs to happen off camera so you dont have to worry about what you are portraying to the audience. She was your best friend for so many years and I know you both love one another, I truly think Tom wanted to drive you away from her and he's really good at manipulating people so he knew he could do it to you. This break is very much needed and I hope the women on the show can regroup and learn to look outside of the show .
The cast is going to find out we the audeince didnt like the gaslighting we seen on the show . Not invested with the narrative they have pushed onto Ariana & katie this season
It shouldn't be all on Ariana to save the show. You all have a story. Ariana walking out was the best move that saved the show so maybe be greatful and thank her.
I don't like Janet. I believe Kristine was telling the truth about the conversation with Zach & Janet. I don't know if she had poor behavior because she was pregnant & bored at home. Or is she just a sneaky individual wanting to cause drama. When you isolate people from the cast, it makes for a horrible tv show. Ariana showed up even when Tom was in the building. The fact that this nobody Janet is causing this, it's ridiculous.
That was some season finale like i dont know what to think it just annoys me how everyone is up arianas butt for wanting her to forgive him so quickly like dont they get sandavol cheated for months and has no remorse for it im team ariana all day long❤
Even is she did play along NO ONE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED IT! Let alone liked it. They're delusional for thinking they could pull that off. Not sure why Lala, Sheana & the producers were so convinced their stupid plan would work either 🤷♀️ it would have made the show worse than it is currently.
Maybe Scheana you should be mad at production instead of Ariana. Maybe Scheana you should be mad at LVP and Tom for weaponizing Tom’s mental health against the cast. Maybe Scheana you should be mad at your husband Brock for being a big suck and being a production puppet. Keep defending Lala and you will go down with her. No way Lala should be on the valley she will ruin the show.
Yes I wish we could have focused on your own individual lives more that would have been very exciting instead of seriously being so obsessed with Ariana's living situation and every single scene being your friends telling Ari how amazing Tom Sandoval is when all he's doing is going on about how in love Raquel he is. That hurts my heart so much just thinking about it. Not only did he throw Ariana away but he still was in love with your ex friend. Why would you push this person on her. The fans don't want to see that s***
Right! It’s clear from her use of “we have to have these hard conversations” and “it was a slap in the face”. Even Brock has used those phrases in interviews regarding season 11. So it’s clear that the 3 of them have been talking crap about Ariana, but Scheana’s so butt hurt at the prospect of Ariana venting and pillow-talking to her life partner at the time
Ariana has said on the show and off throughout that she was not filming with Sandoval. Too bad you and Lala could not have shown Ariana the love and respect she deserved.
GOTTA ASK: What's with the VPR cast bringing fans on the show? Scheana brought on Janet. James brought on Raquel, then Ally (BOTH fans). It was so funny when his mom said she liked Ally because they met "organically." Cut to the confessional when Ally admitted that her friend "dragged" her out to see James Kennedy DJ. 🤔Raquel said the same thing. Schwartz brought on (or will if you get another season) Sophia. She's a fan. She said in Nick Viall's podcast that she went to TomTom because she heard he/James/Tom were there. She already tried this before and met Katie instead lol. So clearly, a fan. Jo was Kristen's friend after Kristen was canceled so the same can't be said for her. Hearing Britany's podcast, there's an argument that even she was a fan! Interestingly enough, she was arguing against being a fan and Janet was a guest on that podcast ep. There's a reason Katie reads reddit Scheana! Inside information! Go on reddit and type in Janet from The Valley- YOU pop up several times. People that know her claim that Janet was a VPR fan and once she met you "randomly" at a pool party, she immediately canceled her plans to move back home or wherever. Soon after that, she starts co-hosting your podcast, infiltrates your friend group, and now she's on a hit Bravo reality show. After watching that VPR finale montage, it looks like her show might be replacing VPR. It looked like the end. A better ending/send-off than most Bravo shows get. If you look at what twitter/X and reddit are saying about Janet, it's giving Single White Female. It looks like the two of you meeting "randomly," MAY have been a bit more calculated. She's not well received on The Valley by fans (that's everywhere) or producers (I mean, she contradicts herself so the producers have to call her on it-just like they do Jax-so she's not alone in that regard). She never thought in a million years that the audience would stand with Kristen. Say what you will about Kristen but right, wrong, or indifferent, at least SHE'S authentic. Reddit also gives proof (screenshots, etc) that Janet was a registered republican...funny how she admitted to saying THAT about Michelle.
SHE DEFF CUT the part out after he asked who schena is closer to TOM or ARIANA after she said neither they edited the REST OUT CUZ IT CUTS and u can see it!?!?! WOW SMH FAKE!!! I DONT LIKE FAKE SH*T!!! sm😅h
Oh, now I know why you love Brock, you, like him is a yes girl. Sheana needs a real friends like Katie and Arianna, they will protect her from the bad toxic people and help her stand up for herself. She has too many people that do all her fighting for her as she associates herself with all the toxic people.
I dont understand why sheena sympathizes so much with the nasty men in the group. Her and lala are definitely the furthest from a girls girl. I feel like they hate seeing their friends doing better than them, meanwhile expect their friends to jump for everything they invite them to... givin mean girl energy. They need to do better, especially because they both have daughters.
Ok something been nagging at me since Scheana said Tom bailed her out during pandemic. Why did he have to? Hasn't she been getting paid the big reality bucks for years now. Looks like she might not know how to manage her money. Lots of extravagance. Maybe shes forgiving Tom because the show is ending, shes bought how many houses over the years and how much were the birthday parties for her daughter that shes too young to remember? Shes got to be in major debt. Brock doesnt work but he probably gets a friend of check. Looks like Scheana may have to ask Tom for another loan or go back to work at Sur. She'll probably go to the valley though. Now she'll be jealous if big breasted boobalicious Brittany since shes the star of that show and she'll be working with Jax again. Maybe she can come up with yet another version of good as gold.
It’s a lie. Made up to justify throwing her oldest female friend in the group to the wolves. She’s also implying that she couldn’t afford to pay a sound guy since he somehow bailed her out. Fake for the storyline
Because she was divorced from a drug addict, who was secretly draining her bank accounts behind her back Her first divorce left her pretty much broke and was shortly before Covid, where she got knocked up by the Australian guy on vacation So I kind of get why she doesn’t have that much money, but still needs to try to fake it to fit in with her friends
@@tracim3080 But she owns a house in Palm Springs and a house is LA but is so skint she needs to borrow $5k from a friend?! Sounds more like she’s overextended herself or is not managing her money well.
Jo, is not my favorite but Tom is really bad. He gets away with so much because he pretends to be so nice. He plays dumb but he is really smart, he can be so mean and then he turns on the nice when he needs to and comes out looking like the nice guy. Look at everything he did to Katie.
My feeling is Sandoval knows Ariana v well and poked her in the last episode knowing she wouldn't engage and set you all up to explode to turn it all in his favour exactly as per his hot mic comment. Scheana, I understand getting in your head about what is real in your friendship with her, but imagine the magnitude of what she has to face in terms of what/who is real for/to HER in this group. In the end, she didn't want to enable him, and sadly you all did.
Scheana has abandonment issues and rejection issues with men, which is why she is a pick-me. She can push, but the moment a man pulls away she wants to cling on to him, this includes Sandivol. We’ve watched her do this since the very beginning, her NEED for Sandoval’s acceptance is nothing new. He has repeatedly betrayed her and let her know that she means nothing to him, but when he needs her on his side he so easily pulls her back in to use her as his flying monkey. Scheana needs to talk to a therapist that specializes in emotional abuse because she’s still a victim of Sandival’s even though they’re not in a romantic relationship. She should also discuss why she accepts her husband being ok with a guy verbally and emotionally abusing his wife and encouraging her to accept being treated that way.
Did anyone see the change on Scheana's face when Janet said it's normal to talk smack about their friends to their husbands? It's the moment we saw Scheana go straight into her head and overthink it. Also, why did I start rewatching VPR and already finished season 1?? You were babies!
It’s so interesting. I’m doing the same. Season 4 and all I see is Ariana showing up for scheana again and again. Them being besties. Tom.. just hanging with Jax and Tom, cheating, lying, getting caught out all of them!!! Soooo… struggling to see why she wants his scary friendship during the show. Just watched Ariana not eat for three days, crying at her first wedding’s bachelor Miami party- through anxiety, but wanting to be there for Scheana ……. So disappointing. Ariana deserves so much more. I’ve always loved her calmness, and self awareness. Now she has escaped the Tom spell, she is a queen!!!!
Basically every conversation Scheana and Lala had with Ariana this season centered around Sandoval. Judging her. Questioning her. Supporting him. Not once ever asking. “How are you doing? What can I do to help you?” The confessionals are even worse. These are not good friends. I hope Ariana distances herself from these thirsty, greedy people.
You and Lala could’ve been fan favorites along with Katie this season by having the same level of companionship & integrity that Katie had to rally behind Ariana. It would’ve changed my bad perception of you from previous seasons if you had done that. But you didn’t. You could’ve helped keep this show going in a totally different (better) way, but instead you were belittling, slanderous, and rapacious towards someone who was hurting. You’re a terrible, shallow “friend”
Janet is not very nice to Kristen!! Janet needs to apologize to her as much as Kristen needs to apologize to her!! She just seemed to really attack her when she should t have!!
Please tell Janet to lay off of Kristen in Season 2 on The Valley. Kristen has a LOT of fans, and a lot of viewers see Janet stirring the pot and pointing the finger at her. Not cool, Janet. Not the way to win over fans… 👎👎👎👎
I don't understand why Tom Sandoval would have to stay on the show past this last season. They already kicked other cast members. Why is Tom so special?
How geniune is it really with Lala really not being able to film with Ocean? Even with the new baby being born we wont see the siblings growing up together So if you speak about beimg authentic how about the transparency in Lalas life?? Sounds like breaking the 4th wall would benifit Lauren the most.
This whole season whas disappointing with Schaena and Lala. Ariana setting boundaries and priortizinf her mental health gets villified and two friends immediatley bash her behind her back? Can sheana not se through the lies of Sandoval. Gross. Ariana deserves better.
“I think perception of what’s ok to put people through amongst the cast is getting warped” 🎯 I truly feel like it all boils down to this: people are very uncomfortable seeing others set and maintain their boundaries when they weren’t able to do so in similar situations. Since day one, this show’s entire MO is horrible, gutter behavior displayed amongst a friend group. The show is constantly touted as one the only reality tv shows with a real friend group yet the fundamental characterizes of true friendship is RARELY displayed by the cast, much less consistently. People keep saying they’re jealous of Ariana’s success. They all ate of off Scandovol, so they can cut that excuse now. I think the real discomfort is seeing someone unapologetically choosing themselves when the show’s norm is accepting truly the worst human behavior with no true accountability or consequences. You all are in your 30s and 40s now - Ariana’s actions track appropriately IMO.
Man it’s got to be so hard. She can’t look in the comments anymore. Poor girl. She is going to go crazy. In Australia they keep them off social media for their own mental health ❤
Unbelievable how much y’all support misogyny and male narcissism. We don’t want to see that worm weasel his way into forcing a woman he destroyed to even be asked to speak to him. I’ve love VPR since the beginning. I could care less now. As it ended I said “I want to watch Ariana and her new life. Without all the fake people!”
Yess, VPR returns with Arianna and HER group of friends. Fire everyone else. Wait! Katie can stay! Or just replace VPR with a show called Something About Her. Just the cool girls!
Why is nobody stating the obvious. Tom is only trying to get back in the friend group because Rachel didn't come back. He had already made his choice and gave up his relationship with all of the group to be with her. He doesn't really care about those relationships. He is only trying to make connections again because she bailed. If Rachel was back all these other relationships would be past tense for him and he wouldn't be looking back. Don't be fooled. His final statement that the end was great for him and he loved it says a lot about the way he is thinking.
Tom would still be fighting for his place in the group even if Rachel returned. He needs to be the center of the world. He’d just be doing it with her by his side and honestly, he would have succeeded faster because the misogyny question would have been removed.
And showed his true colours. He didnt get his own way when Arianna walked out so he threw her under the bus AGAIN. If Lala and Schaena dont understand that is who he really is (a narcissist) and want to be friends with both him and Arianna, it will only not end well for them. Arianna is staying true to herself. Lala put up boundaries around her ex, she should respect Arianna for doing the same.
@@jakestroll6518the accuracy 🤌🏽
How was walking out a slap in the face?? That's insane.. the party was over.. she told production she wouldnt talk to him. He shouldve never approaced her like that. It was psychotic
Her walking out is what made the episode because if we had to stand there and listen to that man fake cry and give another half assed apology. I was gonna lose it. 😂
Scumdoval exposed what he was really feeling right at the end of the finale. What an A-hole.
I believe she said in the after show it was stated in her contract no contact with Tom!!
Production manipulated you all saying there will be no show. They were wrong. The viewers watched to see something authentic not something contrived. This is why we supported Ariana and Katie and James. A show about breaking the 4th wall can work.
It’s completely selfish of eveyone to think Ariana owes y’all anything. She deserves to live out her truth and feelings.
Tom said on watch what happens live immediately after the show that he lied when he said that Ariana didn't care about any of the cast and that she didn't like them. He admitted it was a lie.
Thank you!! It was obvious it was a lie just to make Ariana look bad because he was pissed he couldn't have his "moment" filmed with her for his fake redemption arc. Someone on Twitter put it best with him: because he now has zero control or access to Ariana (and it drives him nuts), he now wants to control how other people see her.
At least he admitted it
He said she didn't "show up" for her friends and that he "overstated or exaggerated" it.
@@MikePenceFly she doesn’t show up to every party, but she shows up to all the important ones
Which in your 30s is pretty typical
@@tracim3080 True. And she's busy AF right now. I think she's outgrown it.
Ariana made a deal with production after she spoke with Tom when cameras picked back up after the scandal. The did speak. She's done speaking to him after that. She's at all the events with him present. She's not being avoidant.. shes just not letting production manipulate the situation in his favor
Then Ariana signed another contract. She gave nothing this season because she is still stubborn. When stassi walked out because they wanted her to talk to Jax and she didn’t the next season there was no stassi. Clearly they have a contractual obligation to have these talks. Fans are forgetting the way this show works. Ariana should leave if she can’t handle being in the work space she has signed on for. We all want Tom gone but he isn’t going anywhere so Ariana needs to buck up or walk away. She is so cocky now so if she thinks she can stand alone without this show then bye!! Scheanas pregnancy journey and post partum is far more important to talk about and go through than this highschool drama that should have been expected since she started out cheating with Tom. Not to mention she lied up and down for years about the beginning of that relationship and completely allowed the audience to believe kristen was crazy. She is calculated and Scheana deserves better. K take care!
@@christinasanchez4278 she gave everything to season people love her I like, seeing a woman sitting boundaries and actually holding to them. Walking away was great her screaming at him on the beach. Great, he deserved it.
I was here for her all season her Katie and James were the only reason I could watch the season
@@tracim3080 she absolutely has the right to create boundaries. She doesn’t have a right to dictate how the show operates. The season stassi walked off for not talking to Jax was followed by a season without stassi. The rules must apply to all. She isn’t extra special she has a job and in that job there are expectations and she chose to walk away so that means she should be off the show. She is only well liked because a lot of women have been scorned the way she was. Her overall presence seemed burdened and bothered. Infact she has never acted interested in the show and has always gone under the radar for her snarky comments and mannerisms. Sorry but I disagree with ya. Take care!
@@christinasanchez4278Stassi was left go because of what she did to Faith not Jax! Her racist ways got her fired PERIOD!! Ariana stated in her contract that she will not interact with Tom so if production didn’t like it, they should’ve said something before the contract was signed. Otherwise, I am so proud of this woman. She stood her ground!!
Why are the people of the valley so much more insightful than the cruel friends of VPR? They're not jealous of Ariana's fame perhaps ❤
After this whole season, for Scheana to say that Ariana’s walking away was a “slap in the face” to everyone is delusional. I hope Ariana sees this and stays away from these people. She’s supposed to torment herself by speaking to her stressor for you all? What about her mental health? You don’t care about that anymore?
Ariana being allegedly $u¡¢¡D@£ was used as an excuse for Tom's behaviour & Tom being allegedly $u¡¢¡D@£ was also used as an excuse for Tom's behaviour - so gross.
@@maryjanedodoAgreed!
Was this filmed before the recent Watch What Happens Live? Because Tom legit told Andy that exaggerated & made up that Arianna talks about the group.
It would be different if Tom only had a one night stand.. it would be different if he was remorseful, it would be different if Tom didn't put her health at risk by sleeping around and still sleeping with her, it would be different if Rachel didn't sue Ariana for what Tom did. Tom seems to be the chaos not Ariana
He also was going to couples counselling while having an affair & making an exit plan - psycho
@@maryjanedodo👍🏻👏
When Stassi refused to film w/ Jax in Season 3 nobody said 1 word about it. But Ariana does it and its CRIMINAL HOW DARE SHE
Sheena, you asked Tom if you were going to look like an idiot because of him in the final episode there and I have your answer for you. You did look like an idiot but because of you because you decided to side with that guy again and again, no matter how many times you told us that he hurt you not just Ariana
You let him buy your friendship right in front of us and we got to watch you toss Ariana side like her cheering you on, and actually being a friend you meant absolutely nothing because she didn’t spend money on you and doesn’t like to party as much
You decided she needed to hear his apology, even though, if you had to tell him to apologize, it’s not a real apology and you had no business doing that
You can’t tell us that Tom hurt you and that we need to think about your feelings and tell us that you need to forgive Tom because you can’t hold a grudge for Ariana sake
You had your own issues with him that you needed to admit you and own up to and hold him accountable for not sweep under the rug and blame Ariana every time you got mad
Thank you!! Very well put. Been tired of the gaslighting!!!
“Because she didn’t spend money on you and doesn’t like to party as much” the accuracy ❤ well said.
THIS THIS THIS
It’s now evident to most of us that it doesn’t matter what Ariana did this season because it was already set. The fans saw it for what it was. A farce. Nothing this season made any logical sense and it felt produced and inauthentic, but LVP chose her side which is always the Toms. production chose to redeem Tom and villainise Ariana and majority of the cast were jealous and insecure and chose to back the wrong person. Ariana was going to be the villain because that was always the plan. That’s what society wants. Redemption for the man and make the woman the villain. They did it to Faith, Laura Leigh, Katie, Kristen, Stassi, Jo, Rachel, even the people defending Sandoval like Scheana and Lala for gods sake! Coming down hard on the women while always redeeming Jax, James, Sandoval and Schwartz. Their biggest mistake though was underestimating the fans and how much society has changed. The fans dont fall for the same tricks anymore and we are more tv savvy. We want justice when injustice is done and don’t want to see misogyny rewarded anymore. It’s not cute. Now that’s on period #PumpRules #VanderpumpRules
YES! Pop off!!
I was looking forward to this season where all the girls supported each other and their business endeavours, and we got to see the Toms shunned to the sidelines for their pathetic behaviour. Instead it just showed the division in the cast - real friends v people who will do anything for a paycheck. Guess we know which one Scheana is. Sad.
Dayum!! Flat out the best comment to explain the clusterf**k of a season!! Exactly how we have all been feeling !! Like we have entered the damn twilight zone!! I think that is why there is so much back and forth on social media...Production hit a nerve with this b.s. We are tired of the freaking lies, manipulation and misogyny!!! Everything you said!!❤❤❤❤❤
yup u triggered
Every single thing you said! Everything! F Lisa’s support of misogyny! I’m so done!
Thank you You said it all Everything we were feeling 👍
Scheana crying to Ariana: “I love you so much I don’t want to loose you”
*2 minutes later* Talking massive 💩 w/ Lala & Tom about how much of a terrible person and friend Ariana is
Just shows who he really is. She chose to walk away, he chose to trash her. She is far more adult and mature he could ever be.
Yeah, that was disappointing to watch
@@skyelynnaeBut not surprising, I bet! Typical Schemer.
Im glad she had Janet on who can vouch for what Matt Rogers and the rest of the audience is seeing. We're over the misogony from bravo. Centering these toxic men and letting women fall to the wayside. This should have been a slam dunk season with the girls rallying around Ariana. The fact that production didnt find a problem with the storyline direction is concerning. what was edited out at @27:43
THIS!!!👆👆👆👆👆👆❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
What WAS edited out????
AGREED!!!! These shows are all tanking for this reason. Why doesn’t Bravo listen to their fans!!!?! We want to see women come TOGETHER, the old storylines are outdated
What a joke you guys made out of the show and fans this season. It is so dark when you really put it in perspective. Ariana had her partner and friend betray her in such a terrible way. Only to then have 2 more friends use her pain against her and make her feel the betrayal all over again. How she trusts a soul at this point is a miracle.
Sheana and Lala, I so liked you last season and I am so disappointed in you both this season. You both are the biggest back stabbers I have ever seen. Such a bad look for you 2 mom's.
Yeah, it was dark and gross especially when they started tossing shade at the idea of a woman fighting for her property like a woman fighting for her legally, entitled property is somehow just the most awful thing a woman can do
Only bitter and crazy women apparently fight for their legally entitled property according to Sheena and Lala
Yep this right here!!❤❤❤❤
L&S were determined to get Ariana out of her own home. Why? So Scumdoval could move Raquel in and get her back on the show. That way he could afford to keep the house and create an instant storyline. They were all in on it, except Katie and James. They’re a den of snakes!!! But Ariana and Raquel didn’t play ball. 🤣So funny, cos it was all for nothing. 😂
Omg you all are so bored 😂
Janet is telling scheana the cold hard truth right to her face and she’s just not listening
She never does! She’s already planning what she’ll do on season 12, we’ve just heard her do it. Tone deaf !!!
That's what real friends do... Just what Janet did right here. Also, Janet was saying she was doing the same thing with Kristen, setting boundaries for her well being. Why not tell her she needs to film with Kristen?
@@Roz-y2d I don’t think she’s getting a season 12
The only people left worth watching are Ariana, Katie and James because they’re the only ones that actually stuck to behaving like adults who weren’t trying to overproduces show
Pretty sure the show is just going to cut their losses and hire a new crew
@@tracim3080Agreed! I would LOVE to watch it with Ariana, Katie, and James! I’m tired of stressful, gossipy, mean-spirited TV. I want to see these people having FUN together and figuring out their issues with integrity and some common sense
@@tracim3080well if there isn’t a season 12 I’ll be ok with that. The show is not entertaining anymore. I just realised that it’s no longer funny like it used to be. I haven’t laughed properly once this season.🙁
So Scheana understands why Janet made her choices for her health… but can’t understand why Ariana did it for her mental health?
Yep had the same thought ❤
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A slap in the face? Scheana, you talked crap about Ariana with your BFF Lala the ENTIRE SEASON! You value Tom Sandoval despite him never valuing you and treating you like dirt. You certainty never valued Ariana despite her treating you like a sister. Maybe if you stopped making EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU for a second, Scheana, you might realize that. By the way, you can make a fist.
THANK YOU JANET, she made so much sense and saw right through Toms lame last attempt to have them turn on Ariana. Tom sandoval literally stormed out when he found out the lyrics in your song, did that feel like a slap in the face and Eff all your jobs? If your job is that dependant on someone having a conversation with their ex then maybe you need to reevaluate your job and small role you must play in VPR. VPR most likely wouldn't have been renewed had Ariana not told production to start filming when the affair happened, so you should all be thanking her you had one last kick and were able to purchase what? 2 homes in the last year thanks to her.
Exactly 💯🎉🎉❤❤
🙌🏻 yes
Doing your job is also meant to be reality and not just be having a conversation on camera so as a viewer it made no sense for Ariana to talk to Tom which is why people thought Lala was being shady because it showed she did things for the camera just like Tom.
Schena, I'm disappointed in you. Tom Scandavol literally said on camera that you hit Rachel. He could have potentially had you doing time in jail for battery. I don't give a a got D how much money he loaned you or gave you during the pandemic. I'm done with you if you try to play with my family, my freedom, my money. That is unforgivable. If LaLa was your friend Schena, she would be standing right there with Katie & Ariana helping you to understand this man tried to assist you in catching a case. Wake tf up Schena.
I just want to know what Scheana does with her money? Why does she need Tom paying her bills all the time. Girl has a 10 year music background and can’t afford to hire a sound guy?
@@jakestroll6518Scumdoval got the sound guy for Kyle Chan, not Scheana. But you know Scheana, everything is about her!🤣😂😅
YES!!!!!
, I have these same questions. She was so broke she needed a couple thousand dollar from Sandoval. Bizarre right? She acted like Sandoval’s sound guy was the best gift ever. Girl, don’t you have a band? They don’t have a sound person? AND Brock went on and on about everything Tom does for them. That turned me off so badly. Brock seems awfully comfy taking money and gifts from Sandoval. My husband would not be down with some other dude doing this, never mind being happy about it.
@@jakestroll6518 well, she paid off all of Brock’s back child support so that probably took a huge chunk
And her first husband was a drug addict too drained all her accounts
The irony of this conversation taking place with Janet...who on the most recent episode of the Valley is refusing to film with Kristen...who sure as hell didn't do anything close to what Tom did.
My thoughts exactly and scheana backing her up completely!
There have been multiple cheating scandals, births, marriages, divorces on this show and it never got the attention or ratings it has now. Instead of thinking Ariana gave a slap in the face and eff your jobs, you should be never ending thanking her that you got a little extra fame off her pain. The fact that you and Lauren bought houses off gossiping off her life and then turned and got mad at her in the end is INSANE.
Yep!!! Hit the nail on the head!!!❤❤❤
And Ariana did film with Scumdoval, she just didn’t want to speak to him!
Even Sandoval said that Ariana didn't exploit the situation anywhere near as much as Sheana did - pretty much the only good take he had this season.
@@maryjanedodo the fact that Tom pointed that out pretty crazy!! He's not wrong! But these girls just keep Ariana's name in their mouth!! Make it make sense !! Please!!
Well the same argument could apply to Tom. Had he not had the affair then none of this would have occurred.
How can you say Ariana doesn’t like you or is talking 💩 about you when she said you were her family?!?! How can you believe anything that Sandoval says but not Ariana?
Her brain is broken. Coz after a season of bashing Ariana on camera, including supporting Lalas vicious rant, she’s now mad that Ariana ALLEGEDLY vented about their friendship privately to her own partner?
@@jakestroll6518Well it’s ALL about ‘Pick me’ isn’t it? 😂
MALE SYMPATHISER, Katie said it best
Scheana, listen to what Matt is saying. He is describing Katie as a friend. That is the kind of loyalty and the kind of friend Katie is. She doesn't tell you what you want to hear she tells you what you need to hear. Please see that she is not a red flag. Scheana you need Katie in your life, you too are good together when you are real. Good friends don't always say the perfect thing about each other all the time, they say the truth.
Scheana you were so terrible to Ariana in the final. She called you an idiot? Lie. As soon as she walked away from you and Tom you ratted her out to Tom. Admit you do not like Ariana. Tom admitted on WWHL he lied about Ariana not liking them and you just ignore the truth. To fit your narrative. You could not be surprised your ‘friendship’ is over. Go make ‘friends’ on the Valley. If they will have you. I am sure Jax and Brock will bond. 😂
No. Not the valley I want to continue watching it
NOT the Valley, they’ll ruin it!
For goodness sake Scheana, just admit you’re a hopeless judge of character because you are so desperate to be best friends with everyone. There was absolutely no need for you and lala to carry on the way you did. You both looked crazy jealous.
I genuinely thought Scheana was being intentionally obtuse as some sort of schtick on VPR. After tuning in to her podcast, I realize that this is not an act. Scheana seriously teared up at the thought of Ariana talking behind her back after how she behaved this season. Why is it Ariana's responsibility to take care of the cast when the cast is not taking care of her? The betrayal is so deep and has so many layers.
And production threatening to cancel the show if you didn't fall in line, why would anyone believe that after the numbers season 10 brought in? It doesn't make any sense and was a clear manipulation tactic. Maybe it feels different if your in it. How did Katie, James and Ally make it through without selling out Ariana? Just proves it was possible to film with Sandoval and not destroy Ariana in the process.
Bingo! But Scheana will never be able to understand cos she doesn’t know how to! 🤮
Sheana just wants everyone to like her, but she doesn't seem very adept at being able to see things from other peoples perspectives. She seems like she's hugely popular and connected socially with A LOT of people in the bravo extended universe & is clearly very extroverted - but having as many friends + acquaintances as she has means your friendships are inevitably going to be a bit shallow...
@@Roz-y2d Yes, and that's just sad. You know what's even sadder? That production continually manipulates the weak (Scheana/Lala/Brock) into thinking that what they are doing is in the best interest of the show and they fall for it every time. Production counts on their vanity and a bit of their stupidity to make sense of the senseless. It's why they look like tools every season and they keep coming back unchanged. Sensible people would take what they've learned and apply it moving forward. James learned, Katie learned, Ariana learned so this is why they are seeing the viewers rally behind them. It's not rocket science.
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Those who watched this season saw that there was probably no true friendship between the girls, Ariana agreed with the production in a written contract that she did not have to be photographed in uncomfortable or staged situations. The entire team knew this and still the pair of viper snakes did not stop gossiping about her from the very beginning of the season I wonder if Ariana had called Randall's lover how Lala would have reacted? Does anyone remember that when Lala was in a relationship with Randall while he was married she refused to be photographed, reveal details and share for a very long time everyone revealed their lives except Lala In my opinion, lines have been crossed from which there is no way back Ariana needs to put Scheana and Lala in the past and not look back
Totally agree. Really awful, misogynistic women!
Production biffed it with how they handled this season, but to totally hide behind that as the excuse for being two-faced is really disappointing. Ariana is honestly better off not coming back, it's clear Katie, James, and Ally were her only friends this season.
Scheana...why did the show depend on Ariana talking to Tom??? That would never be any woman's REALITY after what he did...you followed Blah Blah...and you looked like a bad friend. Yes a Fool!
Especially when they are in a legal dispute over the house
You need $$ after moving to the Valley. Good luck with friendships in your future because you and Lala lost so many fans!
Yep, they really look foolish now, and very cruel!
yasss Matt Rogers asking all the questions and observations for all of us ❤
Meh. He’s coming in soft and not putting pushback. Coz we watched Scheana say terrible things about Ariana in front of the whole world. But she’s triggered that because maybe Ariana might have privately vented about her to her bf? Really? Make it make sense, Jesus.
Girl you got some explaining to do about that final, also your husband insisting on Tom being a good friend because he spends money and not caring that he yells in your face and makes you cry is a dangerous sign for how he treats you.
Brock was saying Sandoval shows up for his friends where as Ariana hasn't been. Sounds like Ariana messages/calls the others right back but not Scheana. It's been said by Lala that Scheana has not been able to speak her truth with Ariana and Brock is trying to get Scheana to see the truth.
I believe Sandoval when he said this is the Ariana I lived with yelling and set in her ways. Too bad Tom/Ariana didn't walk away when their relationship became toxic to them both.
@@carriekay4827 if your friend is repeatedly telling you, they struggle about choosing between you and a man that likes to throw past mistakes in her face, scream in her face and leave her humiliated on national television (and I’m talking about what Tom has done to Sheena not what Tom did Ariana )like if Sheena has to question which one of those people is a better friend then clearly Ariana doesn’t mean much to her
As adults we have busy lives. Sometimes we don’t get right back to our friends but when our friends make it clear that money and partying, or somehow more important than my actual emotional support and talking to you on a deeper level than maybe we’re not supposed to be friends.
@@carriekay4827 By the way, believing a pathological liar just makes you seem really naïve and gullible
@@tracim3080so does believing everything you see on TV
@@tracim3080a true friend would never make you choose between another person. They would respect your friendships.
We all understand you're just trying to keep your paychecks flowing ... but we can see right though the lies and fakeness. Ariana is the only one being honest. That's why we liked her from the start and that's why we were so outraged when Scandavol happened in the first place.
This is true. Ariana was called boring for many years because she didn’t insert herself into drama but what that did is it made her relatable and real to us. And so when something dramatic happened to her, we cared. The love Ariana gets is 10 years of just being herself paying off.
ARIANA HAS NOT been honest since day 1 and has been fake and HAS NOT showed ALL of her relationship wit Tom bc SHE DEFF is not the same person on camera as she was behind closed doors wit Tom!!!!!! SMH SHE DEFF is fake and tried to hide the issues going on wit her and Tom, I can DEFF see where she belittled Tom behind closed doors and I can see her acting like a completely diff person off camera and NOT a good person!!! I think shes a bully and I think she DEFF was rude and nasty to Tom and short wit him and she didn't wanna address the issues in their relationship bc she was worried about losing money or losing the house and THATS why she stayed at the house for SOOO long after they broke up!!!!!! ARIANA DEFF is not the person everyone thinks she is!!!!
@@BeautyXXBrittany so I should ignore all the verbal and mental abuse. I’ve seen Tom put all of these women through over the years and just believe that Ariana was always the real problem even tho we saw him be this way with Kristen too?
How gullible are you expecting us to be?
❤❤❤❤exactly
Ariana has been real on a reality show!
Ariana had a heart wrenching in depth convo w him onscreen right after finding out. She said “Any last words before I never speak to you again?” & she meant it.
Yes, that was the one to one conversation, so why was it so important to have another?
I really was on your side and thought you had a good heart so you were trying to mediate and see both sides.
You going along w/ BLA BLA and attacking Ariana was incredibly 2 faced.
It's weird for Scheana to care this much about Ariana at this point.
It should've never been that much of a struggle to understand her.. THATS why people are feeling a certain way. Scheana, you'll spend your whole life waiting for people to understand you when you have such a hard time just seeing a situation for what it is and not what you want it to be.
I think the fans with this take can’t see the situation for what it is. Everyone is beyond critical of her for things everyone does.
Girl!! 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Well said. But Scheana doesn’t listen cos she’s too busy thinking about herself.
@@christinasanchez4278like she and Lala were beyond critical of Ariana!
WHY WHY WHY would you listen to ANYTHING he has to say!! He is a LIAR!! He will say ANYTHING to get back into the group.
I hope the VPR cast realizes that just because it is production doesn't make them right. They completely miscalculated what S11 should have been and what fans wanted/needed to see, and now the whole cast are casualties of their poor judgement and direction. No one needed Tom redeemed. No one needed this forced conversation they had you all were pushing for at every turn. The audience fully understood. Now we are all left confused and disappointed for different reasons .
It would have been such a good season if they just gave Tom the villain edit he deserves - he's such a himbo they would have had ample footage, all of it hillarious. I wonder if LVP made some demands or if Tom just has good dirt on producers, because the redemption arc was implausible in evey single way.
Yes! Well said! This season sucked and for the life of me I cannot imagine what any new seasons would be about and why we would care to watch. I can’t stomach Scheana, Lala, or the Toms any longer. The Tom’s make my skin crawl and Lala and Scheana chose the Tom’s. They came out and did podcasts for a year knowing full well that they kissed those losers arses during filming. It’s wild. Shows ruined.
Matt was such a great guest. I loved how knowledgeable and insightful he was, how he asked the right questions, and gave productive commentary. Definitely bring him back when you can. He clearly has all the VPR girl's best interest at heart.
He really is the best.
Please, please, please don’t listen to Tom. It was a last ditch effort to get you all to agree with him. It’s very typical in his case. He wants to be right about everything. Ariana has every right to still be upset. And you have every right to let Tom back in. Just respect that she doesn’t want to hear about Tom. Yes it’s a show, but it’s a show about real life. I love my best friend but it would be challenging if she had stayed friends with my ex.
You are a beautiful mom and wife, and I have to say this 50yr. old has enjoyed watching VPR. Just remember to always put yourself first.
I really hope Summer and Ocean find better friends than you and Lala were to Ariana. And hopefully they are the supportive and loyal friend to others. This whole season was so disappointing to see. 😢
And to think you thought the audience would be on your side…until it aired! NOW you’re backpedaling a little but still not taking full accountability for being a shitty friend, sellout, and production pet. Sheana when will you learn that you’re always on the wrong side of history? You should just start doing the opposite of what you think is right at first.
So proud of Ariana for not letting anybody bully her into talking to a toxic man!! She showed all women what strength she had sticking to her boundaries 💪🏽. 98% of podcasters and fans have been showing their support of her not letting anyone tell her how she needs to deal with her trauma!!! I loved that we all did not buy the hypocrisy you all were trying to sell us!!
Ariana and Katie were definitely MVPs of VPR this season!
One hundred percent!
James & Ally deserve their flowers for this season too
Ally too. And James came around too after initially hanging out with Sandoval.
Scheana needs to listen to the latest episode of Ryan Bailey’s show. He spoke to a mental health professional and her opinion of Sandoval and why he gives things to his friends. IMO, you guys are right to clock Sandoval as being manipulative with what he said about Ariana bitching about everyone. He is so manipulative and he is still trying to paint her as the villain to deflect from his own actions and the consequences of these actions.
This was a great episode. The guest asked some great questions.
That was absolutely fantastic The whole cast and production should listen to it !!
Yeah it really was. People misconstrue narcissism with egotism far too often. I love Ryan for keeping it real even when it hurts him to do so - he clearly loves the cast, wants the best for them & is brave enough to call them out on their bs.
I wish you wouldn’t have cut the finale conversation so short. He clearly wanted to keep talking about it. Lol You know how Matt felt about the way you all treated Ariana and it would have been such a good opportunity for you to be honest with the audience and let us hear your side. Matt was as upset as the audience was at you guys, and you let him just keep his mouth shut and be polite rather than you opening an honest conversation up.
I would love to see how things would have gone if Rachel would have come back. It would have been Tom and Rachel and Tom and Jo. All the girls would have hated them and they would have been on Arianna's side. Without Rachel in the picture Scheana, Brock and LaLa went running right back to the Tom's. How sad.
The misogyny .. it’s actually disturbing. I’m over it!
If Tom wants Ariana to “move on” he needs to sell the damn house!!!
Lala will ruin the Valley, if Lala goes to valley I won’t be watching.
Sheena you’re on a reality show not a sitcom there is no ensemble cast
You guys pushing Tom on Ariana, acting like he’s some redeemed human being is what made the show feel so freaking fake
We wanted real we wanted to see how adults handle that situation which, by the way is picking damn sides
Well said. She can’t be a flip flopper all her life.
Correct. It was very bizarre to those of us who’ve had divorces. If Ariana had started talking to him at the finale party, I would have assumed the affair was also scripted. They have no idea how much she’s saved the shows realness. If I want fake drama, I’ll watch a scripted soap opera.
It's so interesting to me that they see themselves as professional actors & they're part of an ensemble cast bla bla... they're not being real because they don't want to upset the viewers. Hypocrisy, not reality tv.
YES!!!
Yes Janet!! Tom was throwing stones not being apologetic at all.. he doesn't care about anyone but himself
Janet love your husband. He seems to be the only man in that group that sees Sandoval for who he is. You’ve got a good man there.
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Swartz started dating Sophia before you started filming season 11 we know this now so everything he did with Joe was because he had already got a new girlfriend and was using Katie as an excuse to dump Joe after getting her signed up to film season 11.
Really? So Swartz didn’t share his life either. Did Scumdoval call him out on it? If not, why not? 😡
@@Roz-y2d because scumbags cover for other scumbags.
Zack said it best, “Janet is a mean girl and she hides it well.” But not so well for everyone sees it! Check comments through out the season.
Matt rogers you are KING of the world 💅
Loved alot of what he said!❤❤❤
Scheana, you are a really terrible friend. Your jealousy got the better of you and you looked most shady this season. You backstabbed Ariana and together with Lauren contradicted all what you stood for during last reunion.
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Scheana, while it may be true that production pushed you to make nice with Tom, ultimately your priority is your paycheck and you made the choice. It's def not authentically" the friend group" and that is what is making it fall apart. I used to like you but this season, 4th wall breakage or not, I feel like your true colors are not so pretty.
Although we can see how much you wanted to believe Sandoval was being genuine it was obvious to us (Ariana’s Fans!) that he was just using you to gain likability with the group! Your acceptance meant he would gain Brock’s acceptance and then eventually weasel his way back in!! Shame on you Scheana!! STOP romanticizing your friendship with Sandoval and just admit you were wrong & manipulated into turning against your best friend for $$!!!
LALA got into your head girl. It's ALL about your paycheck. WHAT ABOUT YOUR FRIENDSHIP..SICKENING
That's a very plausible theory - Lala & Sheana are pretty co-depemdent lately - i could see Lala's psychotic fixations influencing Sheana - especially if shes been struggling with anxiety & vulnerable / gullible
Loyalty means to be a friend, be honest, don't flip flop. Communicate issues u have with each other. Having the same values Also !
Scheana, I hope Janet can meditate between you and Ariana because I do think it is a friendship worth saving. I think Ariana understands you better than you think she does.
I encourage you to consider Tom was deliberately trying to get in your head with his words in that finale moment - dare so successfully, giving the way you currently feel. No one has experienced his gaslighting more than she does. She's been unpacking all his mind games herself. Ariana knows your mind and heart, please consider this was probably something she was trying to protect you from. She knows your vulnerability and she knows what he would say/do to exploit it. Tom is a known liar and manipulator. I don't know how many more ways he has to show it. Don't let him win on this. He said one thing and somehow that has more value than the beautiful convo you had with Ariana where she reiterated that you were family and were never going to lose her? Please consider the sources and who has the credibility here.
This is really insightful
So for Scheana it’s completely cool that Janet doesn’t want to talk or film with Kristen and Zach… right…
It amazes me how she can doubt her friendship over what tom said. I had a crazy narcissistic ex who tried to do the same to my friendships because that's what they do! im so happy my friends saw threw the bs it shows me your quick to jump ships and truly don't know Ariana i would be truly offended if i was her just because a friend is busy picking up their life after so much lost!! Doesn't mean that they are a bad friend!! Sad... I feel more bad for Ariana. narcissists have the same patterns. Maybe you should learn about it so you can truly see why toms does what he does instead of thinking he's a good friend when he charms you! And then learn what it takes to get out of a relationship with a narc the effect it causes her!! Ariana is a strong B 👏 her!!
Scheana I love you, but I do hope this time away from the show can give you time to reflect, I think being on reailty tv for so long has made a lot of the cast lose a sense of what is actually reailty. I also think if you do want a relationship with Ariana,then a conversation needs to happen off camera so you dont have to worry about what you are portraying to the audience. She was your best friend for so many years and I know you both love one another, I truly think Tom wanted to drive you away from her and he's really good at manipulating people so he knew he could do it to you. This break is very much needed and I hope the women on the show can regroup and learn to look outside of the show .
Lala & Sandoval are toxic AF & not in an entertaining way
The cast is going to find out we the audeince didnt like the gaslighting we seen on the show . Not invested with the narrative they have pushed onto Ariana & katie this season
This! They're really insulting the audience's intelligence & exposing their lack of intelligence also
It shouldn't be all on Ariana to save the show. You all have a story. Ariana walking out was the best move that saved the show so maybe be greatful and thank her.
I don't like Janet. I believe Kristine was telling the truth about the conversation with Zach & Janet. I don't know if she had poor behavior because she was pregnant & bored at home. Or is she just a sneaky individual wanting to cause drama. When you isolate people from the cast, it makes for a horrible tv show. Ariana showed up even when Tom was in the building. The fact that this nobody Janet is causing this, it's ridiculous.
That was some season finale like i dont know what to think it just annoys me how everyone is up arianas butt for wanting her to forgive him so quickly like dont they get sandavol cheated for months and has no remorse for it im team ariana all day long❤
Even is she did play along NO ONE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED IT! Let alone liked it. They're delusional for thinking they could pull that off. Not sure why Lala, Sheana & the producers were so convinced their stupid plan would work either 🤷♀️ it would have made the show worse than it is currently.
Maybe Scheana you should be mad at production instead of Ariana.
Maybe Scheana you should be mad at LVP and Tom for weaponizing Tom’s mental health against the cast.
Maybe Scheana you should be mad at your husband Brock for being a big suck and being a production puppet.
Keep defending Lala and you will go down with her. No way Lala should be on the valley she will ruin the show.
Isn’t it supposed to be “Reality TV”. She was true to herself, she didn’t indulge in the script.
Yes I wish we could have focused on your own individual lives more that would have been very exciting instead of seriously being so obsessed with Ariana's living situation and every single scene being your friends telling Ari how amazing Tom Sandoval is when all he's doing is going on about how in love Raquel he is. That hurts my heart so much just thinking about it. Not only did he throw Ariana away but he still was in love with your ex friend. Why would you push this person on her. The fans don't want to see that s***
I’m sorry you have let lala whisper in your ear to much your starting even use her wording. It makes me sad
Right! It’s clear from her use of “we have to have these hard conversations” and “it was a slap in the face”. Even Brock has used those phrases in interviews regarding season 11. So it’s clear that the 3 of them have been talking crap about Ariana, but Scheana’s so butt hurt at the prospect of Ariana venting and pillow-talking to her life partner at the time
I love Matt
Ariana has said on the show and off throughout that she was not filming with Sandoval. Too bad you and Lala could not have shown Ariana the love and respect she deserved.
Then leave the show!
GOTTA ASK: What's with the VPR cast bringing fans on the show? Scheana brought on Janet. James brought on Raquel, then Ally (BOTH fans). It was so funny when his mom said she liked Ally because they met "organically." Cut to the confessional when Ally admitted that her friend "dragged" her out to see James Kennedy DJ. 🤔Raquel said the same thing. Schwartz brought on (or will if you get another season) Sophia. She's a fan. She said in Nick Viall's podcast that she went to TomTom because she heard he/James/Tom were there. She already tried this before and met Katie instead lol. So clearly, a fan. Jo was Kristen's friend after Kristen was canceled so the same can't be said for her. Hearing Britany's podcast, there's an argument that even she was a fan! Interestingly enough, she was arguing against being a fan and Janet was a guest on that podcast ep. There's a reason Katie reads reddit Scheana! Inside information! Go on reddit and type in Janet from The Valley- YOU pop up several times. People that know her claim that Janet was a VPR fan and once she met you "randomly" at a pool party, she immediately canceled her plans to move back home or wherever. Soon after that, she starts co-hosting your podcast, infiltrates your friend group, and now she's on a hit Bravo reality show. After watching that VPR finale montage, it looks like her show might be replacing VPR. It looked like the end. A better ending/send-off than most Bravo shows get. If you look at what twitter/X and reddit are saying about Janet, it's giving Single White Female. It looks like the two of you meeting "randomly," MAY have been a bit more calculated. She's not well received on The Valley by fans (that's everywhere) or producers (I mean, she contradicts herself so the producers have to call her on it-just like they do Jax-so she's not alone in that regard). She never thought in a million years that the audience would stand with Kristen. Say what you will about Kristen but right, wrong, or indifferent, at least SHE'S authentic. Reddit also gives proof (screenshots, etc) that Janet was a registered republican...funny how she admitted to saying THAT about Michelle.
SHE DEFF CUT the part out after he asked who schena is closer to TOM or ARIANA after she said neither they edited the REST OUT CUZ IT CUTS and u can see it!?!?! WOW SMH FAKE!!! I DONT LIKE FAKE SH*T!!! sm😅h
Oh, now I know why you love Brock, you, like him is a yes girl. Sheana needs a real friends like Katie and Arianna, they will protect her from the bad toxic people and help her stand up for herself. She has too many people that do all her fighting for her as she associates herself with all the toxic people.
I dont understand why sheena sympathizes so much with the nasty men in the group. Her and lala are definitely the furthest from a girls girl. I feel like they hate seeing their friends doing better than them, meanwhile expect their friends to jump for everything they invite them to... givin mean girl energy. They need to do better, especially because they both have daughters.
Ok something been nagging at me since Scheana said Tom bailed her out during pandemic. Why did he have to? Hasn't she been getting paid the big reality bucks for years now. Looks like she might not know how to manage her money. Lots of extravagance. Maybe shes forgiving Tom because the show is ending, shes bought how many houses over the years and how much were the birthday parties for her daughter that shes too young to remember? Shes got to be in major debt. Brock doesnt work but he probably gets a friend of check. Looks like Scheana may have to ask Tom for another loan or go back to work at Sur. She'll probably go to the valley though. Now she'll be jealous if big breasted boobalicious Brittany since shes the star of that show and she'll be working with Jax again. Maybe she can come up with yet another version of good as gold.
It’s a lie. Made up to justify throwing her oldest female friend in the group to the wolves. She’s also implying that she couldn’t afford to pay a sound guy since he somehow bailed her out. Fake for the storyline
Maybe he was paying for Rachel to stay at scheana’s because they would lose their hookup place
I hope Brock’s paid off that child support he owed!
Because she was divorced from a drug addict, who was secretly draining her bank accounts behind her back
Her first divorce left her pretty much broke and was shortly before Covid, where she got knocked up by the Australian guy on vacation
So I kind of get why she doesn’t have that much money, but still needs to try to fake it to fit in with her friends
@@tracim3080 But she owns a house in Palm Springs and a house is LA but is so skint she needs to borrow $5k from a friend?! Sounds more like she’s overextended herself or is not managing her money well.
Janet. The people screaming were your buddies Michelle and Jesse. Yet, you chose to exclude Kristen and not them. You lie, girl.
Jo, is not my favorite but Tom is really bad. He gets away with so much because he pretends to be so nice. He plays dumb but he is really smart, he can be so mean and then he turns on the nice when he needs to and comes out looking like the nice guy. Look at everything he did to Katie.
Yep but Katie is somehow the bad guy. No Katie just doesn't suffer anybody's BS anymore!
I’ve really seen Swartz clearly the last two seasons. He’s a nasty, cruel a-hole.
🤣Delusional 😂
Matt Rogers is SUCH a good guest on this pod. I love the questions he asks!!!
My feeling is Sandoval knows Ariana v well and poked her in the last episode knowing she wouldn't engage and set you all up to explode to turn it all in his favour exactly as per his hot mic comment. Scheana, I understand getting in your head about what is real in your friendship with her, but imagine the magnitude of what she has to face in terms of what/who is real for/to HER in this group. In the end, she didn't want to enable him, and sadly you all did.
Such a great episode!! You three work well together and flow. Similar energy- I like it!
Matt needs to come on more ❤
Scheana has abandonment issues and rejection issues with men, which is why she is a pick-me. She can push, but the moment a man pulls away she wants to cling on to him, this includes Sandivol. We’ve watched her do this since the very beginning, her NEED for Sandoval’s acceptance is nothing new. He has repeatedly betrayed her and let her know that she means nothing to him, but when he needs her on his side he so easily pulls her back in to use her as his flying monkey. Scheana needs to talk to a therapist that specializes in emotional abuse because she’s still a victim of Sandival’s even though they’re not in a romantic relationship. She should also discuss why she accepts her husband being ok with a guy verbally and emotionally abusing his wife and encouraging her to accept being treated that way.
Did anyone see the change on Scheana's face when Janet said it's normal to talk smack about their friends to their husbands? It's the moment we saw Scheana go straight into her head and overthink it. Also, why did I start rewatching VPR and already finished season 1?? You were babies!
It’s so interesting. I’m doing the same. Season 4 and all I see is Ariana showing up for scheana again and again. Them being besties. Tom.. just hanging with Jax and Tom, cheating, lying, getting caught out all of them!!! Soooo… struggling to see why she wants his scary friendship during the show. Just watched Ariana not eat for three days, crying at her first wedding’s bachelor Miami party- through anxiety, but wanting to be there for Scheana ……. So disappointing. Ariana deserves so much more. I’ve always loved her calmness, and self awareness. Now she has escaped the Tom spell, she is a queen!!!!
Janet saying “ Kristen doute” she’s WORSE!!! 😂😂😂
Not Scheana saying Janet’s HUSBAND is attractive and everyone knowing now they’ve hooked up 😅
That woman has no decorum! Crass.🤣
Wait what? Scheena hooked up with Janet’s husband?
Basically every conversation Scheana and Lala had with Ariana this season centered around Sandoval. Judging her. Questioning her. Supporting him. Not once ever asking. “How are you doing? What can I do to help you?” The confessionals are even worse. These are not good friends. I hope Ariana distances herself from these thirsty, greedy people.
You and Lala could’ve been fan favorites along with Katie this season by having the same level of companionship & integrity that Katie had to rally behind Ariana. It would’ve changed my bad perception of you from previous seasons if you had done that. But you didn’t. You could’ve helped keep this show going in a totally different (better) way, but instead you were belittling, slanderous, and rapacious towards someone who was hurting. You’re a terrible, shallow “friend”
vanderpump halloween and christmas would be cool even if it airs in spring and not xmas, i loved that they filmed in winter too on the hills
and If they filmed holiday parties then we could see people go visit their parents
Janet is not very nice to Kristen!! Janet needs to apologize to her as much as Kristen needs to apologize to her!! She just seemed to really attack her when she should t have!!
Please tell Janet to lay off of Kristen in Season 2 on The Valley. Kristen has a LOT of fans, and a lot of viewers see Janet stirring the pot and pointing the finger at her. Not cool, Janet. Not the way to win over fans… 👎👎👎👎
Janet comes in as a nobody but acts like likes she is a reality star. No one knows who you are. Team kristen.
So Janet is not coming back!!! This is live, & Kristen was already live that s2 is back! Her & Luke got their contracts
Oh, thank God. Janet is insufferable
All cast is back apparently
I don't understand why Tom Sandoval would have to stay on the show past this last season. They already kicked other cast members. Why is Tom so special?
Because he’s Lisa’s boy toy😂😂
How geniune is it really with Lala really not being able to film with Ocean? Even with the new baby being born we wont see the siblings growing up together So if you speak about beimg authentic how about the transparency in Lalas life?? Sounds like breaking the 4th wall would benifit Lauren the most.
Scheana I dedicate Kendrick’s diss track to you
Sorry, I’m already the biggest hater. You can be number 2 biggest hater.
❤❤❤love this comment so much!!
I dedicate it to Lala and Lisa too!
Do not allow VPR barnacles to latch onto the Valley. VPR can stay if it’s fully recast with SUR servers again
This whole season whas disappointing with Schaena and Lala. Ariana setting boundaries and priortizinf her mental health gets villified and two friends immediatley bash her behind her back? Can sheana not se through the lies of Sandoval. Gross. Ariana deserves better.
Janet is cray cray
“I think perception of what’s ok to put people through amongst the cast is getting warped” 🎯 I truly feel like it all boils down to this: people are very uncomfortable seeing others set and maintain their boundaries when they weren’t able to do so in similar situations. Since day one, this show’s entire MO is horrible, gutter behavior displayed amongst a friend group. The show is constantly touted as one the only reality tv shows with a real friend group yet the fundamental characterizes of true friendship is RARELY displayed by the cast, much less consistently. People keep saying they’re jealous of Ariana’s success. They all ate of off Scandovol, so they can cut that excuse now. I think the real discomfort is seeing someone unapologetically choosing themselves when the show’s norm is accepting truly the worst human behavior with no true accountability or consequences. You all are in your 30s and 40s now - Ariana’s actions track appropriately IMO.
I’m so happy these were the guests on this ep!!!
Man it’s got to be so hard. She can’t look in the comments anymore. Poor girl. She is going to go crazy. In Australia they keep them off social media for their own mental health ❤
No, they do that in Australia so they dont post spoilers or change their behaviour during filming due to audience backlash
Unbelievable how much y’all support misogyny and male narcissism. We don’t want to see that worm weasel his way into forcing a woman he destroyed to even be asked to speak to him. I’ve love VPR since the beginning. I could care less now. As it ended I said “I want to watch Ariana and her new life. Without all the fake people!”
Yess, VPR returns with Arianna and HER group of friends. Fire everyone else. Wait! Katie can stay! Or just replace VPR with a show called Something About Her. Just the cool girls!