Grandstream HT801 ATA - Keeping your analog dreams alive!
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- Need to keep analog devices (fax, alarm, rotary phones) going and integrated into your VoIP/SIP environment? The Grandstream HT8xx series of ATAs (analog telephone adapters) is the perfect way to do it! Here I show you how I'm hooking up an original early 80's rotary phone for my new office phone!
00:00 - Intro
00:11 - HT801 introduction
01:20 - What do you need an analog telephone adapter for?
02:00 - GS ATAs support pulse dialing
02:30 - Quick specs of the Grandstream HT801 ATA
04:05 - Powering on the Grandstream HT801 ATA
04:30 - The RED PHONE and how I wired it up!
06:15 - I did have to find the schematic for the bias spring
06:45 - Grandstream HT801 web interface and setup
08:40 - Pulse dialing setup
10:15 - IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE!
10:45 - High power ring
11:15 - Calling out from the RED PHONE!
11:30 - Why do I need an ATA?
12:15 - Wrap up
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I had one of these laying around and it never had an option for pulse dialing. However I saw this video, dug it out of my junk drawer and did the firmware upgrade...now it works with my rotary phones! Thanks for letting me know this was possible!
thank you for giving ideas to keep analog alive
Nice to see that something is available that still supports pulse. Might be interesting to connect one of my rotary phones just for nostalgia. The commenter is right about how to use a rotary phone please pull your finger out of the dial hole and let it spring back by itself if it can. I've seen worse. When I did Telecom for the school system some schools still had rotary phones in the office. The children did not understand how to use them they would press the numbers in the dial thinking it was some sort of touch tone and then give really funny looks when nothing happened. We had to stifle our laughs
Spring moves too slow for me.
Excellent video thanks for the info. Happy new year 🎆
Really enjoyed the video! Thanks so much.
Nice video ! bought one too for my pulse dial phone (Ericsson)
This is awesome!
When using a rotary dial you don't need to keep your finger in the hole after the clockwise turn, it should return on its own unless the spring is broken.
Spring moves too slow for me.
@@WillieHoweand that’s how you break it
I was an Operator and from day one of training we were told not to "ride the dial".
@@kernow9324 you are correct, they told you not to ride the dial as you say for a very good reason.
Yep 100% agree let return spring do it's Job!!! The More I tried to Rush entering the number e.g rotating dial backwards I would always stuff up on the Last Bloody Number ffs!!! So Start all over again FMD! FFS! FML! Haha😢 😂(And it Made a weird noise when you did IT! Was obvious it didn't LIKE it at ALL lol! Saying that I never did Break IT)🤦 But try telling that to a adhd 7yr Old 🙆🤦 OMG THIS Phone killed my LIFE 🤯🤬
Thanks, This video is really great!
Good to know, i used to think only old Ht5xx were compatible with pulse !
I have a large resort that did not want to swap to IP running off 48port GXW FXS adapters from Grandstream PLUS one of these for the alarm system dedicated. The front desk, office, other areas in the main building are IP phones the rest we stuck with the 20year old analog phones and they work fine.
I love that phone.
Nice 1 sir
Love ya work ! ;)
Informative, thank you, With regards to the settings in the Grandstream, does it need the help from the telecom company to know the server and password info?
Love this! Trying to get a Western Electric wall phone to work in the garage, at least in some capacity. Problem is, we'd need battery power (usually run an extension cord from the house when needed, so that's Plan B.) Also the router is in the house, but we can get WiFi in the garage. Bluetooth retrofit would be the easiest route, but that would make it redundant.
Use a wireless bridge to connect to the garage to the home wi-fi. Telephone "talk battery" is going to be provided by the ATA so I don't know what battery power you're talking about unless you have no power in the garage and you're trying to run the ATA off of batteries.
@@BufordBuzzard Power in garage is an extension cord we use as needed. It's not always in there but I will look into a bridge for starters. Thanks!
You can also keep the ATA near the router (and preferably both powered from an “uninterruptible” power source, then run a phone line to the garage. (Most ATAs can have 1 kilometer or more of standard phone line to the phone location).
Love this I just bought an 802 and will try and figure out freepbx
It works awesome I had to do some research on FreePBX to know to use the secret and NOT the password field in the extension on the Grandstream or any phone for that matter.
Omggg good luck with freepbx 🙄
@@GuidoLoko Works great it was not hard to learn but I may wish to try and figure out Asterisks by itself so I can run it in docker instead of a vm.
I did not realize that you could use one of the ATAs as an FXS port on the PBX. (Holy crap is that ever alphabet soup) by 6302 will now be a 6301! Just learned a lot about my HT814)
Hello, thanking for sharing your video. I ran through some issue on accessing the web ui to set-up the device, I am to log-in but can not access advance settings or fxs port. Any advice on this issue? Thank you
Willie, I really need one of these for my fax. Is there any special settings for config of the ATA?
Nice.
Can we have an example with GDMS registration?
Did you try enabling the high power ringer option in the HT801 before adjusting the ringer in the phone? Might help. EDIT: yes you did try I see as I continue to watch. :) good demo
Amazing video, i have question if i have landline phone i would like to use it like IPoV ? Which me if someone called the landline number it should ring to IPoV app for example
What are they doing to support automated attendant systems? As the network becomes more and more digital the DTMF tones do not work properly all the time. The FCC is mandating the discontinuation of analog lines. They should also mandate that the companies find a solution for this problem. It affects banking, telephone entry units, almost any business that uses an automated attendant. Not to mention systems that use a dial up connection for updates, YES they are still out there. Some installed just a couple of years ago. We are not talking about decades old infrastructure.
Your video is very interesting. I was working with this device and my question is how many phones can I connect, because I have had a problem: You can receive calls, you have a tone, very well, but when you make a call from any phone, then no more calls come in and the answering machine is activated automatic. Any ideas? any limitations? Connecting only ONE phone goes well ...
Excellent information I did everything but log into the ata box and register and change to pulse
So when I called my old Contempra desk phone it rings now because I change that little wire that you pointed out to the other slot and I picked up the receiver and I could hear my wife talking on my cell phone when we made the call and of course we get a dial tone. The only thing that I’m unable to do is dial out and I think that’s because of the pulse and registered information that needs to be done.
I’ll probably call my provider who supplies this box and see if their tech-support team can help me with that thank you so much for your information.
Is It possible to use a ovpn configuration on the ht801?
How many phones can u plug in that one port? Also will it be able to ring more then one phone at once?
Good information sir but how to change caller tune on gs phone they only tell ring tone in their web.
Do you know if these are capable of outbound masking? Where all outbound calls are displayed to the recipient as the main number?
Any idea why the ATA won't accept a static config? Should I move that part to a later step after I configure the SIP stuff?
I tried to use my Grandstream with my new Panasonic telephone. I tried putting the telephone line directly into the box, but it kept saying check phone line. Do I need a dongle adapter?
Will this work with an Alarm system using pulse dialing. We have one installed but the alarm is not detecting a line. Any suggestions?
how do you call from 1 HT801 FXS analog phone in one location to another HT801 FXS analog phone in another location directly? also, is there a peer to peer network, so i bypass the use of a third-party sip server?
How can you configure the Grandstream HT802 for "ring down" mode?
Hello, my Intruder alarm does not send me SMS when it sets off as it does not work with digital internet connection. Would this device help to convert the signal from analogue to digital?
Are these able to be used in a hosted phone system?
Oct 2022: Thanks, was the video I was looking for! So if I wanted two analog phones over existing wifi - say, between house and garage, would I then need TWO of these boxes? Also, is this a subscription-based service or can I just use my existing wifi router and a wifi extender with Ethernet on the 2nd phone to have simple VOIP connection? Thanks.
You have to either connect it to a PBX or put a sip trunk directly to it.
Hi! Loved this video! I recently purchased an old ITT rotary phone for nostalgia in my home office. It received calls OK but will not dial out. I am on ATT VoIP internet and have a touch tone phone there now, which works fine, but want to change it out with the old one. All there is is a standard phone jack, and I figured this device could help make calls out. Problem is that the house modem is in the garage, nowhere near where I want to use the phone. There is a phone out on the modem going to a small white box where it looks like it is going to the wall. I am not sure how to connect this HT801 in this setup to make it work, or if it will even work at all. I really appreciate any help! Thank you so much!
Depending, it may need a polarity fix. Some of these old phones for some reason or another if the wiring is not in the correct polarity, it won't out.
Does the Grandstream Ht801 work for paging systems? 🤔
Can I use with a Google Voice line?
I have a grand stream ht701. I have had it for about 7 yrs. I got it from Wal-Mart. If I order the ht801, can I keep my old phone number?
is this only thing that is needed or need actual phone # from phone company?
I have a rotating pulse converter to enable my antique phone to wort on a tone dial only fiber modem router
That's AWESOME Willie! So, to push it 1 step further .. Can this configuration (analog Pulse phone / Grandstream ) with Unifi TALK !.. I been trying this with limited success. hoping you can provide missing link! Thanks
Yes but it's all cli config file based.
Thanks for the video. I got a 1980 Australian 800 Series phone to work send and receive) with 3CX, however it does not ring. It uses 4 wires from its plug and ensured that I am using a 4 wire 610 to RJ12 adapter between the phone and the ATA. I have high power ringing ON also. Any ideas anyone? I've heard it takes from 50-100v AC to ring?
I think the Grandstream uses 2 wires only wheras the 800 phone probably uses 3 with the bell wire seperate. Open the phone and remove the blue wire and make sure that terminals 4 5 6 7 are strapped and 8 9 seperately strapped
Great video. Very helpful. At the beginning, you mention that you wish the Grandstream ATA HT801 had POE (Power Over Ethernet?). What is the benefit of POE?
We can use this where there's no power available as long as we have Ethernet.
@@WillieHoweOne can use a PoE to 5v USB micro power splitter and then no local power would be required.
I used an auto dialer it didn’t play the sound but it made he phone call, when I call using a phone I can hear everything fine, any idea
Hi. Do i need a 801 after every phone or can i install one behind a PBX so all the connected pulse phones can use it?
Using a device like the Grandstream ATA do you then not need a SIP account for the 3CX platform?
Does it work with "all in one" Epson fax machines? It has an ethernet port and an ip address.
I have an HT801, how do I connect it to my obi2182?
A Cortelco 2500 needs an ATA like this or not?
4g/5g hotspot to ATA - is it possible? What is the best configuration/hardware? Thanks for the great video!
Buying an LTE router with a LAN port, or failing that you could get a normal router that has a "client mode" feature.
Hi, Please how do I get the SIP server IP???
Would it be possible to take an old analog line and change it to a trunk?
I don't have ethernet anywhere near my old payphone that I want to use this for. Can this be adapted for WIFI?
Can you have this device trigger an iphone shortcut when you pickup the red phone?
My only issue is the step in FXS port for sip user id. What shall I use there? Thank you in advance
The same question I have been asking
I type in the ip for my HT702 and it just times out...
Great I gonna make a BBS
I have an old phoneline I'm trying to figure out how to set it up as a voip phone, any suggestions?
Can you use old number on this device to call in?
Will it work with Google voice?
I have a car gate controller on the phone line that uses ## to access the controller. The dial tone from grandstream does not respond to this key . How can this be modified?
Hello, thank you for this video. I also have this adapter and a rotary phone. But I don't have a Grandstream telephone system. I have a German FritzBox (router with small PBX functions). I need a dial plan for the Grandstream adapter so I can dial * and # with numbers. I entered this dial plan: { [126]x+ | xxxx }, but it doesn't work completely. The second part is already functional. If I dial a 9 before the number, the connection is established. But the first part doesn't work. I would like that if I first dial a 1, a 2 or a 6, the adapter automatically puts ** in front of the number, so when I dial 620 it should dial **620. Could you helb me?
So to be clear, I would need a Grandstream 801 in every room where I would have an internet hardline and wanted to install an analog phone? plus an ATA for rotary phones? Is it possible to plug in the existing house R11 network and run it through the copper lines?
You could tie it to existing house pairs and have multiple phonea
i ordered one but it was from vontage so none of the default passwords work to gain admin access so i cant even try to set it up
Magic Jack made one at one time.
Hi, what was the ip address you put in? Do we need to buy a static IP for this Device? Thanks..
How can I access ChatGPT voice assistant via the landline?
It is really disappointing that's not POE. However what is the power requirements I know it's 5 V how many amps? There are POE converters that are available for like $15 on eBay with micro USB and ethernet pass-through I've been using them with a few things they're very handy. They tend to be marketed towards the raspberry pi crowd.
I just got one of these to hope to use in my Avaya environment to use as a Fax line instead of purchasing POTs lines. I picked up the 801 and from this it seems pretty simple. Just configure my Avaya server info and the extension.. is that pretty much it?
Yes
@@WillieHowe so what phone type do you select on your PBX(avaya)? I've tried various ones and I can't get the device to register. I built the station and enter the PBX IP info, station and pw in the GS FSX config page. But it just wont register. Thanks for responding to an old vid.
Is there a way to link the obi200 to the grand stream ht801 so I can use google voice and the u inquest pulse feature?
Got my rotary phone to work, rings and receives calls well,
enabled pulse dialing but nothing happens can still hear dial tone
Phone just says property of bell, cable doesn't even have a jack just three screw terminals red, yellow, and green,
Red going to red, green and yellow going to green
If I have the HT802 with 2 rj11 ports, can I make a call between the two phones? I only have 1 voip account.
Why did you use an ethernet cable for the analog phone instead of a regular analog phone wire with rj11 connectors?
Not sure what you mean can you expound on that?
Do you know if the HT801 can be setup to auto answer for a paging system?
Which direction?
@@WillieHoweVoIP call the extension setup on the HT801 thru the copper line to a speaker
Is there any sort of fee with the use of this device along with an old style rotary telephone? Or once you buy the device and hook it up everything just goes thru your Internet and there are no additional charges?
Decide not register??
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Will this device work with multiple POTS phones connected in parallel? In other words I have several POTS in my home wired to a single point. My desire is to connect that single point to the Grandstream unit and all my old POTS phone works as before?
It should
Did u get it to work?
Yes works great
@@GuidoLoko yes works great.
What is the REN number ? IE how many phones can you plug into it ?
Great question! I'm actually not sure!
Doing the same thing in an old 60's home we bought as a second house. Hiding all technology while still using it. Want to use Google voice if possible. Options?
Can only do SIP with Google Voice for Business
HELP HELP HELP . . . following the User Manual for the HT801 it states: for finding the IP address to PRESS the * three times (* * *) on your analog phone. . . that takes you to another menu Where you PRESS 02 and a recorded message announces the address. BUT the message is so fast and spoken so low that it's inaudible. Plus it's spoken by some woman that's sounds half Eskimo and half Welch. ANYONE ELSE ????????
I do not own, or be attached to a PBX. Is there some PBX provider where I can get registered for making phone calls.?
Sure. You could register it directly to Telnyx. You don't get PBX functionality -- would be similar to it being connected directly to the Telco.
Sounds like the Rockford Files
Some cell phones have a dial tone like Jitterbug. Us senior citizens need to get together and riot and over turn cars until they bring back the dial tone to all cell phones. Just a passing thought for what it's worth. What do you think am I alone ?
is there a way to use this with residential Google voice?
Probably not
@@WillieHowe thanks, might just get a Bluetooth home phone with multiple handsets and be done with it.
The password didn’t work for me- (admin admin)_it said password not recongnized or you do not have access privilege please try again. Remaining Attempts:3 -what should next step be ?
I don't understand why you needed to fiddle with the phone's wiring. Was this step necessary? Can I just skip this with my rotary phone?
Don't forget there is a difference between FXS and FXO ATA's
You can make it poe with an adapter.
One PORT?!
Alright.
Most people live only with their cell phones now but if you do that, your life is in danger. If you get something lodged in your throat while eating, how are you going to tell 911 where you live when precious seconds count? People say "they can use triagulation now to find you". Okay, you have 3 minutes left to live. How long is triangulation going to take? And first you have to find your phone. And then it had better not be turned off. And if it's on, hopefully your battery is not about to die just as you're calling.
So having a home phone plugged in and powered up all the time is a wonderful thing (voips work so long as the power is on) and so long as you pay for the 911 service on an obi or other device, you're (hopefully) good to go. Magic Jack has 911 already included.
Damn, what a headache just to use a rotary phone.
I purchased Grandstream HT812 in order to put a DECT Home phone and SKY PLC/SKY HD Plus back online but as could not get the details from my Broadband Provider which was also my home phone provider but they would not oblige and supply the necessary sip.conf file so I am sunk and had to purchase a Mobile Phone for the house, don't you actually have to setup your user telephone number,sip server address,loopback,and the secret?
Wonderful video ! So do we need an actual phone number with a phone provider or can I use a number I own already for this ?
One you already own.