New Tractor in 2023? How Much Would You Bid?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- New Tractor in 2023? How Much Would You Bid? Good used farm tractors for sale at auction near me. Vintage farm tractor for sale at auction near me. #farmallfanatic #farmauction #auction
I'm a JD guy, but always liked the 56 series. Guess I have a hankering for the 60's and 70's style tractors, since that's mostly what I grew up with. I've drove all the colors.
I own 1466 and an 856, for me they have been the most reliable trouble free tractors I own out of the 10 that I have, some of which are newer and way bigger. Any one of those you showed would be an excellent addition to your fleet you should definately seek out a 1066 or 1086 or both.
Right on
I have an 856 D that I kept when I retired from farming. It has 9,937 hours on the tach. Neither the head nor the pan have even been off. Good solid tractor.
I had a 1086 that almost 9,000 hours on it when I sold it. I purchased it used. The pump had been turned up - easy to spot, the paint was burned off the left side where the muffler is. I had the engine rebuilt, the pump turned down to factory. It was a beast. Only negative I had on it was the shifting.
Back when I farmed in Michigan years ago had a neighbor that had a 1066 he never had an issue with it and kept maintenance on it! Workhorse it was!
How long ago and where in MI? Grew up outside little town of Reed City, and just moved home little to east of it.
Have a friend in Central PA that has a 1066 that has around 1200 original hours that looks like the day it came from the dealer.
@@TomA6788 southeast, Michigan ! Use to deer hunt some near Reed city!
I would personally pass over the 460 seeing what you already have. Its not an upgrade in power over a good strong M. The 856 is an absolute horse, I pull 5-16s with mine and its pretty much pick whatever gear and go. My vote lays with an 856. I paid 9000 for mine in IL, and its on the rough side in terms of paint but everything works and it runs like a stuck pig
I can't argue there
I love each and every model you had listed, looking forward to seeing what you end up adding to the fleet this year. Let's go let's grow....the fleet!
💥BOOM 💥
The 1586 with the cab looked really nice, looks like it could be a good restoration
Definitely
My opinion couldn't give me the 460 we had one junk. 1586 always wondered why IH screwed up putting a 3 speed in them great tractor always needed another gear..Any 856 or 1066 can't go wrong
My buddy has a plethora of IH Farmalls from small and old to big and "new". His favorite, hands down, is the 806.
I hear that a lot
Back in the 1970s our big plow tractor was an 806 gas open station wide front with a full rack of suitcase weights pulling a matching fast hitch five bottom plow. We farmed a couple hundred acres back then. Always dependable for us except for batteries, always batteries, no matter what tractor the batteries would be out when you wanted them, lol. Often it had a straight downspout exhaust pipe on it so it would roar when dragging that plow. It also got used for baling after the Oliver 880 went down for transmission gears. The 1066's with cabs were one of the more popular models in their day and thus should be easiest on your list to find parts -- I know some collectors chase the limited run models but I like the high production runners since I'm still working them. Unless pulling for show, I'd skip the turbos you showed as more things to break. Used car prices are collapsing ... likely won't be too long before the torrid tractor prices fall too, so it's best if you have patience.
I haven't noticed the used car prices collapsing yet here in Pennsylvania
bought my 856 with cab and dual loader at auction 2 years ago for 6500, sold loader for 1600, hubs for duals for 100, cut one foot off each side of rear axle. put on my 100 dollar 7 foot snowblower that is all the that tractor gets to do a couple times a year here in northern minnesota i love it.
I think the 460 will bring $3500-$4000 ! I would wait for more power like the 856 or the 1256 and u will have big savings on fuel too !
Tough call between the 66 and 86 series(in my eyes). There all red and pre-fiat so it's all good!
The 460 has the T/A lever removed. The usually means it doesn't work and / or has been deleted. I have a 966 and I love it. It does everything I ask it to do easily, and is not hard on fuel. i did not see a T/A handle on a couple of the other tractors.
No the TA lever is definitely there on the 460
Yeah I believe the 856 is factory delete
The 460 had the TA lever. The 856 didn't but they can be ordered without, and I think it's likely the case with that tractor.
856 is one of the best IH tractors ever built my family has one still being used they bought in 1973 it has over 20,000 hours on it. The 460 diesel 5,000 top price if fast hitch and t/a are good 3500 is much better price for one. 1066 have went crazy on price but again can't go wrong with one 1256 narrow front is one on my list someday.
I agree with that
Geno. The 460 diesel is a rare bird. Did you happen to see the hitch? It's hard to put a price on a tractor that you can't kick the tires on. The front end looks loose, no fenders, and it's hard to tell if the tires are dry rotted because they were driving around in the mud. Can't tell if the pump or the glow plugs work from a video because you can't start it. Is there any paperwork with it? Just because it's a rare tractor, I would say between 3500 to 4500.
That's exactly where I'm at on it
I started that 460 about a month ago, it had been running a few hours before hand but it started pretty easy. It's a pretty nice machine in person
Were you able to test the fast pitch and see if it moved up-and-down with ease
@Farmall Fanatic I wasn't, I just fired it up for an older gentleman that was looking at it, didn't drive it or anything unfortunately
You are getting geared up for a big year! I can’t wait to see what you do and how your channel grows because of it!
How are you dropping a video every single day? I mean you're a video making machine.
@@FarmallFanatic 😂😂😂😂
I’m no pro like you… it’s quickly thrown together over here😅
@@McGieHomesteadAdventures but you're still getting subs and making money 😳
@@FarmallFanatic I really miss the farmall friday growstreams …… we used to really grow back then!!😂😂😂
Even though we now are picking up actual organic viewers and more of them, those were some fun and exciting times!
@@McGieHomesteadAdventures We weren't even a blip on the map then now we're at least a blip lol
1066 , you got my attention
66 series is my fav
Ok first that 460 would be an excellent little power house for your farm. Get it out in the field with the disc or cultimulcher and let her Sing. As for the other tractors in my eyes it would depend on what you would be doing with it. Take the 1586 for example. It’s a big tractor that takes a lot of fuel and oil along with other maintenance. Also the gearing in them is a little funny in my opinion. I think an 856 or the 1066 would be a excellent tractor for you. Not to big or small. They will pull your existing equipment and they’ll give you a reason to expand. Also they would fit in your next shed because let’s face it you need another shed 🤣.
I need one twice the size of what I have
@@FarmallFanatic I have the same problem 🤣
Like all of them. That 460 looks great and will fit in good with your fleet. The new iron videos are my favorite for sure. Thank you again
856 or 1256 is what I’d want after seeing those videos. Depends what you want to do. 806 diesel also super reliable for us after 27 years.
I don't know what 460's are worth (I'd imagine the diesels are worth more) but I'd say $4,500-$5,000 max depending on how well it started and if the ta works. I've seen gassers for sale around me for $3,300-$4,200 so I'm basically going off that 😂. Hope this helps a little, lol.
Yeah that makes sense
That is a very nice 460 Diesel. I bet it will go for $5000 or more. It would be perfect for the 311 plow. All the tractors were really nice. It is noteworthy, however that the 1256 and 1586 have a significant upgrade: The PTO. Both models original only had the 1000 RPM PTO, and these both had dual PTOs which came off of smaller tractors. I like both the 856 and 1256.
Me too
An open station 1066 has always been my favorite to look at and if I ever have the disposable income, I want one.
1:29 Nice tractor! Actually, they are all pretty nice although in a previous video I confessed to being a Selective Steve. Not a fan at all of the 460/560.
I've never owned a 60 series and if I do get it and don't like it it can go down the river
1066 is a damn good tractor n she’s a biggie RED THEN comes more equipment to buy To feed her power to pull
Makes it kind of fun
Oh to have the problem you have. Lol. But seriously, I always wanted a 1066. Way more tractor than I would ever need but there is just something about them.
Yeah they definitely are an icon of red power
Would love to see an 66 or 86 series on the place, never could figure why only a 3 speed in 15 instead of 4 speed like the 14, they’re all butes and brutes and I’m sure you’ll do your do diligence in making the decision, you always do. Best of luck FF and can’t wait to see your purchase 🇺🇸💪🏻🇺🇸
1566 had a completely different final drive than the 1466.The 4spd transmission was not compatible.
The 14 had alot of rear end problems, so they built a stronger rear end with only 3 gears. That's pretty much the difference between a 14 and a 15, a heavy duty rear end
We just bought a 1466 and it's a work horse.
My favorite red power!
*One of the international turbos! They look and sound so good!* #WorldsOkayestFarmer
Wife’s uncle had a 1066 and it was a workhorse, never had an issue with it.
Would love to have a 1086. Guess I need to take a road trip to the Midwest. Don't see to many in north east Texas. I have 140's and an MX110 CASE IH. I'm a sucker sometimes, I would go as high as my banker would let me go.
Right on
In like condition: 460 $5k
856 $8500
1256 $10k+
1066 $15k-$20k
1086 $12k
1586 $15k-$20k
These are max bids,in like condition, of video provided.
P.S. 1066 Black stripe will probably be higher.
No argument here
Grew up riding on the back dash of a 1586 plowing and discing with our local farmer. I don't remember what "size" combine he used but it was J.D. green. Good memories and good times.
I remember when the 86 series come out, I thought it was a space ship
I have ran all but the 826 that you showed was about 4 years old when dad took delivery of a new 460 diesel did a lot of farming with it right out of high gave it a paint job traded it off never wanted to see it again overhauled after broken crank maybe would start without being pulled during the summer months chain took all the paint from front axle being that said I rebuilt a 460 gas still have like great my uncle who worked had 856,1206,1456, and 1466 I took to the field first day he got it. When I started farming I got a used 1066 think might been turned a little but believe wasn't that far behind the 14 great tractor 1466 were hard on rear ends my last tractor I bought a 5088 right when all the IH dealers going out of business as a demonstrator first owner little over 200 hr and warrenty 1983 auction 20500. Put 2500 hr. On it sold it on my farm sale got 19000. The rear end did go out but was under warrenty so new hytran on me and rest covered far I'm concerned that 414, 436 turbo engine really tough and a good starting engine there still quite a few these 966 1066 1466 out here in Midwest don't see as many 1256 don't think we're made to many years as I recalled bottom line that 1256 looked pretty good but I have a soft spot for 1066 just wear a good set of ear protection can't believe I hear as good as I do because I didn't wear protection any way sure it will be RED that's all that matters right we will be waiting for the outcome 😁
I forgot to add the coolant filter was important to maintain on those 66 86 and 88 series thinking maybe even the 56 series as well but by the 66 IH was definitely started putting coolant filters on
I didn’t even make it through January without getting one. Traded one of my old Squarebody Chevy 1 tons for a 57 350 Diesel Utility.
my gpa had a 560 and freeman 4000 loader he said it was best tractor he had, his biggest tractor was a 706 for planting, the 460 should be just as good I’ve been looking for a 460 diesel myself
Finicky Phil:
Not a fan of 86 shifting. Do you need something that big??
No TA 856.
460 no solid drawbar, only on 2 pt adjustment.
10'2 and 12 top of my list.
I personally would choose the 1066 over any of them because I just love the look of them. they're just perfect
I heard it said a couple times around central MN that the two happiest days for a farmer who bought a 460. The day it was delivered to the farm and the day it left the farm. Hate to talk negative about any of the Farmall's or IH's but the 460 diesel wasn't one of the best ones built. I have a late model 62' 460 gas with the large axels, a 59' 560 gas and a 63' 560 diesel. The 460 and 560's are about the same physical size (running the same tires) and I am disappointed when I get on the 460 due to the lack of torque and power the 560 gas has. Just comparing the 460 gas to the 560 gas. They both start very well, no matter if its brutal cold or warm. The 460 is a good wagon puller. When the farmers in the area ran those older six cylinder IH's, it was pure music, gas or diesel. I love my 560's.
I'm not new to that news that's for sure
I guess to me it just depends on what you expect the tractor to do.. I personally feel like it is a 3 bottom tractor
Looks good Gino I'm not afraid to buy sight unseen. I just buy a tractor that way. This looks great Gino buy it. Have a great day
I'm gonna bid low
I think you need the 1256. I had an 856 that someone had put a DT407 industrial engine in. It was a beast!
I'm sure it was lol
If you can't find an 826, an 856 will do and new rubber at least on that 856!! Depends on your horsepower needs, I guess.
460?? not quite sure, they had issues in the day, rear end issues, have seen them SOLD from $1300 - $5500. If the 460 serial tag has a triangle at the end, a dealer has replaced the rear end under recall. That goes for the 560 and 660 as well.
good luck
I like the 1256 looks mean and good
The 460 diesel appears to be dry, no leaks. Maybe it was restored in the past. Maybe you can steal it for 4000, put on fenders, and buff the paint.
True
I myself would buy the RED one!
The first tractor was nice, but too short of video to assess. I do like the 1256 towards the end.
The 460 I wouldn't go over $4000, 1066 $10,000, 856 $6000, 1256 $8000, 1586 $10,000 but all depends on what the hours are and condition. Looking at some previous auctions, these are about the average price. I've seen some lower and some higher.
I agree with the 460 but those other tractors haven't done those prices in 20 years
856 5 to 7g 1586 around 15
Good day FF Up here neighbour has 460 gas utility I think he wanted 4000, & it is not sold. Thanks
I always add a 1000 bucks for diesel
It depends on what you are looking to do with it. The 460 will match most of your equipment. The 1256 looks like a nice tractor and so does the 1066. I used a 1256 at the neighbors to help haul chopper wagons.
I consider the 56 series the forgotten series
Right on man I personally love the 806 but the 56 series is a close second
Great video also finds Gino :) be what you pick up for your new addition in fleet on sales what get this weekend! I hope don't get over priced to on $ worth be nice prices!
First WTC auction of the year in just over 3 weeks!
This is true and it looks like the weather is going to be nice this month in the mid forties almost every day
Hey FF...I didn't hear you mention a 1206! I know of one available in NE pa
I wouldn't be against it
I let you know when it's done
Some nice tractors there! I wouldn't mind owning a few of those. I need a few more smaller hp tractors to round out my fleet.
I like the 56 series but I run a 560 all the time around my area the 460 world go around $3000 to 3500
You won't be unhappy with either one.
All of them were nice. I just dont know what i would bib on something i aint stood beside to hear start or climb on and drive and ck hydraulics. I might would just ahead and get me the 1566 with cab and work clothes on.
460 diesel is maybe for a reason lots of 560 dsl s in Indiana still being used hammering 282 seems to be the better engine most 460 are being converted to pullers buy you a 966 cheaper than a 856 1256 1066 or my favorite 66 series the 766 and 460 is a 3-4 k tractor condition condition condition
Out of that pack I loved the 8 or 1256 series. Don't have any idea the price on the 460 but nice tractor as well. 🇺🇸
I like your channel and I am a big fan of red tractors but I am not too knowledgeable about prices. I was thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of $5000 for the 460. But that is just a rookie guess. God bless and best wishes.
If I knew everything worked, 5000 would not be out of the question at all
John Deere fella so I wouldn't even have an idea what to give. Which ever one you go for hope you get it for a good deal.
Right on
All looked like good tractors..
Good luck !
Thanks
Chalkers selling that 460D i will be watching it closely lol since i have a truck out that way that will need something to bring home possibly. Good luck and thanks for sharing it
How did you know?
@@FarmallFanatic its been on tractor house and equipment facts. so its not a secret by any means lol
Good video. If I were you Id skip 460 and put money toward bigger machine. The m and h will do the work of the 460 and use less fuel. Did alot of mowing with 560 narrow front. Fun tractor to drive.
You really think that 236 diesel uses a lot of fuel?
No not really but h and m would be cheaper. Forgot about your 400. That tractor is just as good as 460.
most definitely the 400 I would put up against that 460 any day
@@FarmallFanatic I used a 450 to green chip and we used it on silage blower. All kinds of power.
The 460 if it were out here in Kansas would probably be in the $3000 to $4500. range. It’s kinda hard to say, not knowing about the TA, or any of the rest of it’s history. Good luck.
Thanks
I going on the cheap side 4500 to5000. But that's me. I have to see a lot closer to bid on it. Good luck. Boom 💥💥💥
Yeah that sounds about right
I'm glad you came in to some serious money
I'm old it took me years to have any money
856. The 1086 they were all nice
Definitely
856 and 1066 Boom!
I didn't like the chatterey clatter I seemed to hear at 6:56 with the 1256.
856 looks very sharp
I bought my 560 diesel for $5,000 back in 2020, so probably a little bit less maybe the 4,500 range
Whether you believe it or not, prices have damn near doubled in 2 years
If it was me I would look for a 1486. Most of the 15's only came with 1000 PTO and for some reason they only have 3 gears in the tranny. You get four with the 14 and lower.
Honestly not having 4 gears is no big deal to me because I do field work. I would add A540PTO
When I responded last week about contacting my cousin in Missouri about potential Tractors available for purchase, I had no idea he would pass away the end of that week. His youngest son is my source for Tractors and parts. My search for these will be delayed a bit. I know you can understand that. God Blass and I'll keep trying.
My condolences
@@FarmallFanatic Thank you!!!
Why not just get a international tractor with a cab that way when you have to move snow or get caught in a rain storm you can either stay warm during the winter or when it starts raining you can stay dry and not look like a wet fog when you are done doing field work
It's definitely a consideration
I would buy the 1256 turbo ( Red Power) , that tractor is very tidy...it would pull the barn and the house down
Yea it would lol
I like the 856.
All very nice. Not sure of price on 460. But, buy them all😉
All good choices!
You have to be careful on those 460s. Some of those had H axles. I think You would want one with the M axles.Those small axles were not a good deal with that HP.
This is a 1961 all the upgrades were done at the factory
What about the 560 same size as a 460 but more HP.
I'm not against it
@@FarmallFanatic Burnouts with Bob.😆
Depends on how much money do u have. The prices on 66 and 86 series are going up.
Yeah well in 5 years they definitely won't be any cheaper
My honest opinion on the last tractor video is that I wouldn’t go any higher than $1500.00 yeah may bring more than that at auction but I’m still not paying over $1500.00 for it because in all honesty you or I don’t know if it’s been torn apart and rebuilt or when the fluids were last changed you really can’t put a price on it unless you see it in person then that’s the only way I know if it’s worth purchasing it
That's true
If You would only go 1500 You wouldn't get to bid much.
All great choices!!
Wide front 460s in mint shape sell for around 5000 here
If you were to pick the best all around tractor from the 1940's-1960's to farm and hay with what would it be and why? Most efficient with just enough power to pull smaller implements 14' or so. Best gasser and best diesel. If you were gonna pick one tractor to do everything on a budget what would it be?
Super C
I would look for an early model 756 diesel... Plenty of power starts right up n great on fuel
And eight speed transmission!
Figure out what type of farming you are going to do. Look up Rick Clark presentations on youtube for soybeans and Jon Stevens Maple Grove Farms youtube channel for corn (look for his 'white board talks' he shows conventional tillage vs strip/no-till hp and costs). If you are going conventional tillage you'll need to figure out how many plow bottoms and how much seat time you want in November. Regen Ag you only need to worry about pulling a no-till drill through standing rye at either 4, 8, 12, or 16 row unit size you want (again seat time) and enough hydraulic lines to run its functions. Our big plow tractor years ago was an 806 gas and worked out great for pulling a five bottom plow through heavy clay. Figure 15-20hp per plow bottom you want to do, 10hp per chisel shank if using those. These days I'm going all-in on Regen Ag with heirloom open pollinated seed so very little equipment is needed (I'm currently using a Ferguson 35 and Allis Chalmers WD). There's a youtuber running a round baler with a Farmall 350. You have the right idea looking at the old gear rather than new equipment payments.
The 1066 is the pick of the bunch
An 856 set up for duals, but a 1586 with stub axles??? Must be using the big tractor on a ensilage chopper.
I noticed that too
I like the 460.
I'm a bit fussy. The 460(?) seems to have lost its fenders and what was the gear grinding when the fella attempted to reverse?
Full throttle and still moving...neither has worked for me
I hauled a load of dirt for a old guy and he had me dump it behind his house in a wooded area and I almost cried when I saw all the tractors rusting away several ih like what you showed here and several other brands he said the ones that were complete ran when he parked them 15+years ago I could tell he would never sell so I didn’t ask he is a hoarder 😂maybe his family will sell later on
Yeah they won't get a darn thing for those tractors
Hoarding is a mental illness
FF, all bigger than I ever got to run so not much help $$ wise. Any Red Power is good power💪💪pre Case-IH that is😉😉 Best to you for whatever you decide on, it will be exciting to see when you share with us 💥💥💥
I would sub in a 1456 for the 1586 if i were you. Kent from PEI
its difficult in uk they would make a lot more than usa prices although container prices are very expensive but items can vary for instance what i see a wd9 is much cheaper in us a than uk but i have super wd9 and in usa look 50% more for that model. id say buy a uk built super bmd for something different or b450 maybe
They are very difficult to find here and if somebody does have them they don't sell them
go for 1466
@nigelgwillim644 why not 1566
I run a 1256 and 786. And me tell if I was in the market I'd buy a 1086 and be done with it.
FF if you aren't successful by the last Wednesday in March you can come to central PA and bid on our 1066 (white stripe) or 1566 black stripe
What exact town?
@@FarmallFanatic 16930 . Fraleys Auction company doing the sale
They all look delicious!
True
I know farmall letter serious has 2 pto's one for a belt and one for brush hog.. But I don't understand why the big farmalls need 2 pto's....
One is 1000 rpm. The other is 540.
@@jeffrankin967 thank you
At about 90 hp equipment mfg recommended 1000 rpm gearboxes on new implements sold. It was easier on drive lines. On our farm the discbine, 2 forage harvesters, and the silage blower had 1000 drivelines.Our three higher hp tractors Were 110hp, 150hp and 155Hp.
Try a johndeere 4840 love ours had an overhaul after 17,000 hours
Lol
@@FarmallFanatic all the ih tractors need overhauls after like 900 hours