yeah u can tell he didn't like 2pac the character or persona... he keep saying "i got love for" and "not to disrespect" but he literally went out of his way to basically say Pac was fake. its simple as that
@@sincerethegod325 thats what he's saying because he keeps harking on that one interaction they had at that show where he felt that because he portrays a tough image his actions didn't match it when he was in an uncomfortable situation. and the whole part in the beginning of his "speech" talking about how time can either build a myth or tarnish it. Pac was called multifaceted or mr. duplicity while he was alive shit everyone has different sides to them but that man sitting there saying Pac wasn't what ppl thought he was. why else would he bring up that story when the original question was asking him to pick between DMX and 2pac..? not to mention the fact he snickered and laughed b4 he went into it
These old bitter dudes just hating that's all. The question was about music and he just goes off on pac like the guy doesn't have family members and friends that are alive. He should have just said dmx and keep it moving. Stop trying to justify this hating shit. Pac deceased. Let him rest. Tired of these old new York dudes hating on a guy that died almost 30 years ago. It's getting old as fuck
They call Pac a punk for wanting to leave the spot after the 5th fight, but they call him crazy for rushing Orlando, calling out all of Chicago on stage for Yummy, Pulling a strap when he was about to get robbed at Quad, and Shooting 2 off-duty cops… WHAT IS IT?! Lol
Brah dissed Pac so many times in this interview … he kept saying I don’t wanna, I’m not trying to, but you did brah ! Why y’all hate on that man so much you can tell he was the man when he was alive .
There were people who were killed during/after PAC’s performances. He didn’t want any more people to get hurt while he performed or get blamed. He was dealing with a lot of civil cases against him. He was being smart.
Facts like WTF is wrong with this dude it sound like PAC was smart according to the dude in the Red. That dude would never see a brother getting jumped on by 2 white men step in & defend him. Not step in & fight another brother.. white men who were Police.. until he can say he did that. Don’t speak on PAC
Blacks have been made to be so weak that the white man can give him his hero and he'll accept it,..... That nigga wasn't nobody to follow, IN REAL LIFE.....He played gangster and RAN INTO REEL ONES.....
He's not dissing him you sensitive niggas, he's speaking on how pac REALLY was compared to how niggas like you view him, and he's speaking from personal experience, not like he doesn't know him, he clearly knew the guy personally, you didn't, cmon man, and I'm a HUGE pac fan, but facts are facts
Definitely 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He says he a real NY cat, but he's still angry at another man who wanted to cum, do the job and get the f out of a situation he could read was offish 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Old fools!!!
I'm 40. You ask my grandma who 2pac is and she'll tell you. My son 10. He gonna tell you who Pac is. There are rappers in the game right now who has no idea who this dude is. Dudes from NY. Pac was 25 when he died. How old this dude?? Big up EFN.
I’m 37 love pac and big. Had all their albums since they came out and still never heard of this dude. 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂. Dude talking about a kid in his late teens and early 20s when he knew him. Fkin clown
Pac was so big all these old famous new york rappers hated him because he was everything they wanted 2 b and more actor poet big movie star iconic figure ladies man president of the black panthers so much more
These days some try to claim it was all love back then but at that time damn near every NY dude I knew disliked Pac's music. Called him trash. For real.
@@D.Nice.. Funny, because that's exactly how the rest of the country felt about ny music.. trash. Which is why nwa, deathrow and 2pac destroyed ny in the early to mid 90's. Bodied ny so bad ny stop doing ny rap, and started copying w. coast music. Now ny copy a mixture of w. coast and southern rap. Hell pac still destroying ny now, which is why it's always some corny lame bitter ny ninja that throw shade on Pac's name in all these youtube interviews.. except for Nas he always give pac his flowers. Even tho nas can thank pac for his Hennessey deal. " let you get my last shot of hennessey, ain't never had a friend like me" -2pac
@@mr.nyceguy7800ol this corny ass essay..when did NY try to sound like Cali? Show me the song!? I can show you how ice cube sounded like NY when he left NWA tho...Cali loves to pick Pac as their own...Pac lived in Cali for 7 years...he ain't from Cali...If 69 moves to Cali for 8 years ya'll gonna claim him....only goes to show the d-riding and the fact the no goat in your eyes is from ya'll soil...bozzos should just get behind Cube who's dope instead of riding for "MC-New York" like he from your hood
@@SHARPEYE1 that's true and I'm not denying that but in this case you can see there's still some feelings there. It's like it bothers him how much people love Tupac.
@@bklynlive30 it's not that. Look at how he said 'Thats easy for me, DMX' and started laughing. This dude be holding onto feelings. Tupac is loved and he can't stand it.
@@j.wellington777 come on, you can tell by the tone of his voice that he's hating. What was the point of rambling on and on about this lame dead end story when the question was most likely about who was the better artist between pac and dmx lol and he takes it somewhere else. Also the guy in the red t shirt checking him tells me all I need to know. The man is still jealous and bitter of Tupac legacy and reverence and is trying everything he can to assassinate and demean his character. He's jealous, period. I find it cowardly too for this old ass man to sit here and shit on someone that passed young and can no longer defend himself. Lame, Im not rocking with this crap.
PAC said in various interviews that wasn’t a gangster and said he never had criminal record until he got famous. What does anything he said have to do with the impact that PAC had on Hip Hop and society? These old dudes still down talk a 25 year old dead man as if they were perfect in their 20’s. As far as honor goes, who had 15 kids out of wedlock since character is what we’re using to decide who’s great. Them NY cats be salty, boy. Like modern women. You basically said DMX is a better artist because PAC offended your weak ass feelings before.
i liked ur comment. im fro NY tho...and my GOAT is DON MAKAVELI....and alooooooot of NY ppl feel d same way. Majority of us here in NY LOVE Pac & have him as our GOAT, rightfully so.
Ya act like that didn't make pac looks soft that's what ya don't understand in nyc fights and cuts to the face is normal on the block if you try to leave or flinch people know you soft in those times
@gulf r. a. naw fam I'm a west coast nigga from the bay we see and sniff envy and dres is salty and obviously has a personal experience he can't get over, why are you mad how people perceive a man, I bet he couldn't pull as many hoes as pac did that l know NY get niggas mad when it comes to hoes and you happen to have more, shout ot to EFN I know he wasn't feeling it
Because he didn't want to help an unknown name group trying coming out that had nothing to do with him, felt like if he felt uncomfortable that night is because pac is a dude from the west in a room full of new york people scrapping
Picking Apart And Criticizing A Young Man’s Growth And Development, A Young Man That Died A Young Man, And Decades Later Trying To Hold Him Accountable On The Standards of A Mature Man Because Now You’re Over 50yrs Old Is Crazy. He Feels Like Pac Isn’t Deserving of The Legacy That Lives On. Life Is Seen Thru The Minds Lenses (Eyes) And The Eyes See What The Mind Thinks. It’s All About Perspective. Everyone Has Their Own Truths…
That is so real Pac was 19 or 20 i seen a video of me & my friends at that age we was arrogant & cocky and cursing for no reason he never had time to mature
He did all pick apart on a man who didn’t get to grow in time but i know wat he mean but if he gonna pick apart pac he gotta do dmx too thts just real just imagine wat dmx really could had been crack wasn’t his down fall💯🤦🏾♂️
NY was hating on everybody's music even themselves. Snoop and Dp made NY NY and biggie called the radio station and told NY to go against em and they shot at em, then dp re edited the video kicking buildings. NY still haven't taken accountability blaming erbody else
The man telling a Story that he approached Pac in front of his dudes and his man just acknowledged the story..So basically he did have that energy, he was trying to figure out why Pac didn't....I Fuck with Pac but questions like the one you pose is the Reason he's saying what he said....
PAC being 25 did a lot of lifetime work on our culture and as a people. Not surprised he was immature at times or overly aggressive. I.m sure he would grow out of it if he lived longer. He did a lot and he would have done even more ❤️
He was still a kidd he had to grow up fast there was too much at stake nobody lift’s there voice like him i haven’t seen that in year’s☺️untill the second wave😂they ain’t gone be ready for this ☝🏾 salaam✊🏾
2pac or DMX? Dude could've just said DMX and stated what he likes about DMX's artistry. Instead, he goes on a 24-minute rant on 2pac's shortcomings. That's weird. And he kept saying no disrespect, not to shit on, no offense, but... That's a clear sign of someone being disingenuous. This guy had maybe one "hit" song in 1991 the title of which most people don't even remember. I sense a bit of envy from this Dres guy.
@@TrueProphit Right. Maybe Young Noble may say something... Good thing Pac has real fans. I mean, I wouldn't be mad if Dres said DMX and proceeded to tell how he likes his flow, delivery, wordplay, etc. But no, he had to go on a 24-minute rant.
He don't really like him, but don't wanna come out and say it. A lot of these NY guys never got over 2Pac dissing NY rappers (some not all). Especially when he disses BIG and Jay Z. They still in their feelings 20 years later. Truth hurts. Lies don't sting this long. Notice, everybody talking ish is "NY" rappers? LOL. DP need to make another video and step on some more buildings in NY.
Nore was waiting on a negative Pac story…… I wish Nore would just say he doesn’t like Tupac. I get it the other nigga. Pac might have cost you some paper potentially. But Blacksheep was playing out in 92. Pac was what 20 maybe 21 and you calling him soft for not wanting to perform with another guy(biggie). I am glad the other 2 guys came in a straightened out the story
Nah, y'all too sensitive... when you a real nigga, you can't tell no lies. Nore had problems with Pac during the East/West beef... he's clear on that... but he doesn't hate him. He's not sour and bitter over that 25 years later.
" Niggas talk a lot of shit, but that's after I'm gone 'Cause they fear me in physical form Let it be known I'm troublesome " 2pac - Troublesome 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯🎯
I met pac once and he wasnt intimidating at all couldnt believe how small he was but always had big dudes around him,he reminded me more of one of them little dogs that snap at ya ankles,the little homie who always felt he had something to prove.
I actually know what he meant when he said that, it's because if you listen to alot of his fanbase, people make it seem like Pac had people shook and that wasn't the case. Pac was a Respected Artist and was becoming a Bigger actor. Most people didn't catch on to Pac until he got locked up then went to DeathRow.
@Belzabet Empire Lol No He wasn't...Pac was a Dope Rap Artist...Wasn't no Mob Boss.. When you a Boss, the things that Happened to him Wouldn't have... I Fuck With Pac but I call it like I See It.....
@Belzabet Empire Lol The World Says That Huh...Im a Fan of Pac but just because someone is The Most Popular don't mean he's the best...People only said that after him and Biggie died..It was Never said while he was Alive...Definitely didn't say it, his first couple of albums..So just because people jumped on the Bandwagon after he got Shot, went to jail, and signed to DeathRow doesn't necessarily mean that...Definitely an All time Great...but it was other rappers who were better Definitely Lyrically...
Clearly Pac Must’ve Pounded Out One Of Dres’s Bitches Or Something 😂😭😂😂😂 & Nore, I Lost Mad Respect For You, How You Gonna Sit Up There & Act Like Pac Wasn’t Born In Harlem & Had Massive Ties To Queens. The Man’s Rap Name Was MC New York For Christ Sakes Before He Decided To Go By His Own Birth Name... Pac Was Probably More New York Than All Of Them Up There..... I Really Dont Get It
What y'all keep forgetting that pac had a vendetta against New York he rocked with certain NY cats but he went after NY when he left prison my man's was locked up with him he was getting extorted yo lol
This dude with the white tshirt never once explained why he chose DMX over 2Pac. You just told a story and left out one very important aspect to it. The brother with the red collared shirt had to come to the table and clarify things. 2pac was spiritual and felt uncomfortable because of the fights, what's fake about protecting your energy? Having an opinion is one thing but when you go out of your way just to belittle someone who isn't here to defend themselves tells me a lot about your character! You're a true BUSTER, whatever your name with the white tshirt in this video. 2pac is a revolutionary, his legacy will always be REMEMBERED!
@@HRDRZ Who's crying BIH? All because that BIH nigga with the white tshirt has an OPINION doesn't make anything factual. If anyone Is salty it's you BUSTER!
People Talk S***After Pac Passing...But When He Was Alive Most of these Dude Are Quiet as a Church Mouse...Pac Was Against particular people in NYC that most of them cross him...Pac Didn't Say Fuck NYC...Method Man...Redman on All Eyes On Me. He held Wu tang member down and got him chain back after it was taken...He was still with Jamming with Greg Nice And Smooth B..Eric B....Nothing like the Old School is on Me Against The World Was Tribute To NYC...California Love On All Eyes On Me Album....2 Pac Is From NYC and Have Ties to Northern California so he going to Have Love for Both Sides..Dres talking Real Slick...Dmx is same dude that said about deceased 2 pac he suck his d*** ..I believe alot of that had something to do with the feeling that people felt that dmx was stealing from pac earlier on...only thing to me that separate dmx and pac was the dog theme and heavy drug habits but thats it...alot of of pac influence same for ja rule which he man enough to say he was inspired by pac..My Problem is They Didn't say this S*** When Pac was Alive..its Sucka S*** !!
A lot of these artist from that era was jealous of Tupac NOT because of his music or talent. But because Tupac was getting the females. PAC was taking these niggas women and running threw em. That story Snoop Dogg told of PAC taking a certain celebrity female from him and when he called her to come through, she replies with I don’t think Tupac would like that is a PERFECT example of what I’m trying to say. Probably why Snoop started hating on him🤷🏾♂️
Why they had to be Jealous? I really think alot of people was Young in Pac time because alot of things he's saying is correct and I'm a Pac fan but I doubt those Rappers was Jealous of Pac, especially around the time he's talking about....
Nore definitely got some feelings about Pac. He's always trying to get other people to say something negative but in a slick way. He even did it when the Dogg Pound was on the show but he said it with different energy. He love pointing out the Old School/Cali Love song comparison. I've seen him do it 3 or 4 times now.
Nore is just keepin it real... a lot of us street cats in NY felt some type of way about Pac in '95-'96 when he was on his East/West rampage... dudes today want to act like it was all love, but it wasn't... Pac really did have the streets heated... and Biggie had West Coast cats heated... the beef was real with the fans. The magazines blew it up. Some artists tried to play it off, but shit was real. I don't think Nore hates Pac still to this day... and neither do I... but a lot of us were saying F him back in the day.
@@KtotheG Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, South America and the whole West Coast still have respect for Pac no matter what his critics say. We know the truth!
@@naturalimmunity7007 I will never respect a man that is talkin negatively behind a dead man’s back. Especially Pac. Pac wasn’t an ordinary dude. He was a well known artist and character. Look at his face and the way he talks. It’s obvious that he’s a weak man that tries to act tough and wise. A wise man respects the dead Period.
Life experiences change people, Pac was going through alot in a short period of time. He not only was catching cases left and right, but he also felt like dudes who were suppose to be his people violated, shot and robbed him, went to prison for an alleged sexual assault, got out and started bangin in the west. Time is crazy, he might have been a different dude in his last days from when he was a kid running around on the east
He been in west he brought biggie out there and perform out there he didn't bang the west but he said since people talking about where they from why not talk about LA he was living there at the time.. Tupac was still going back and forth to the east coast.. no one say anything about kurupt when he's from my city Philly ice t from Jersey.. even pac gave you the old school on me against the world..NYC traded on pac while he was in jail NYC started that rumor which was Wendy Williams and others said pac getting raped in prison.. once pac came out he had things to get off his chest people said he's crazy.. that is like me saying you rape little kids . But when you respond I say this nigga is crazy make it seem as you started shit..
Bruh wtf u talking about? There’s hundreds of videos online with Tupack rolling with deep ass crews u Tupack fanatics always trying to change history 😂😂
The thing that confuses me when people talk about Pac is that they try to expose him even though there’s nothing to expose. Everything about his life he exposed himself and why does nore keep referring to a playlist on a streaming app like it’s an album because old school and California love are on two different albums
Shoutout to Chi Ali, EFN & the brotha in the red who added in (especially the dude in the red who added context to that clown Dre’s story) Tupac had wolves around him that loved him. And as far as the “he hated NY” shit that Nore continues to push.. literally half his fine was from NY/Jersey… wtf is Nore problem
@@A.I_Leon_TV he knew they would feel a way. He was from there so he wasn't dissing em all. Too bad he died too young he couldn't grow up like errbody else
The commentary was good and was a lot of things said in this interview.On another level this was a teachable moment.That moment was when Q came in and gave context to Dres story.”Context in a story is everything “.. Context drives the motive, Context navigates the direction, and Context displays the BIGGER picture.
@@Coach_LoveWe get that, but when Dres left out the key components to Pac's change of mind it was misleading. His man gave us context that didn't diminish Dres' feelings, but it gave the audience more clarity on Pac's point of view in the moment. Without context there is no way to truly comprehend a story.
@@PurebreedFLAExactly because it's footage on UA-cam when Pac was with Death row filming a video, fights were breaking out, he got soo mad he left the set. Same scenario!! East Pac/West Pac...what's crazy, when Pac was alive, none of these hating dudes said a word!!😅😅😅😅
Ali was the only NY OG that kept it real on the subject & they lowkey aint like that shit 😂😂 he pretty much said “wow wth? yeah yall niggas still hurt & hatin. i was there too. Pac was solid”
Actually he did, but then again ya'll listen to the words and not the message. It's all good though, that's why you think Hit Em Up was the hardest diss track ever.
@@jamescummings6703 Yeah basically he said his decision has nothing to do with pac and x music. It has a lot to do with his personal relationship with Pac at a show. He didn't really like Pac
@@kennyboudreaux1657 Cube is a beast and I give him credit for his song even Death Row Records added his song to they greatest hits album and clearly he's not with death row but it's not as good as Hit Em Up it's still played to this day on the radio and in the clubs it is what it is it's timeless.
Exactly...what DJ EFN said! Pac died young and its unbelievable what he accomplished in his short run actually. Easy to pick apart a 25yr old cat...Dres definitely a little salty.
Why are these dudes up here throwing shade on a man that has been deceased longer than he was alive and why is nore always bringing up tupacs name every chance he gets, why does he always have 2pac name in his mouth like what did pac do to you 🤣. It I think it's lame that all these 50 year old dudes are sitting here shitting on someone that passed away young and died almost 30 years ago. So much animosity towards 2pac. So lame. This guy talking sounds jealous of tupacs legacy and reverence.
What Jadakiss say " I see why Pac didn't like y'all niccaz" ...You can tell these dudes could never bury the hate they have for Tupac.I can imagine what they say when the cameras are off.Nore trying to hide his hate, but just look how angry he looked quoting those Cali Love lyrics.I bet these dudes celebrated when Pac died.
So sad how a lot of these rappers be sounding like bitter ex-girlfriends 25 years later🤦🏾♀️😞 He’s the GOAT! Period. His legacy will never be tarnished no matter how many of you haters try😂
This is a hit piece… Tupac at the time was 19 20 yrs old around the time they talking bout. This conversation is why hip hop is where it is and it ain’t black no more. No real preservation of the greats. You don’t see this in no other genres.
That's not facts. Damn near all genres of music got stories of artists past that the public don't know about. This here ain't even shittin on Pac. It's just real stories he had with him. It ain't that serious.
A room full of NY dudes discussing 2pac is always a weird sight. 2pac never said "fuck ny"...he said "if niggas in new york wanna bring it, bring it! I was talking about biggie and niggas opened their mouth with a mufuckin opinion"! He never dissed New York as a whole..he dissed some new york individuals.
He was actually hating on Pac and he’s friend came through and gave us the trap perspective on how and why Pac acted that way. Pac was right, mofos would talk smack after he was gone cus they feared him in physical form. Crazy
He made it personal. All he had to say was DMX & kept it moving. This was supposed to be about the music. People keep forgetting how young Pac was when he died. Dres probably didn’t see Pac in 96 bcuz He was always with the Outlawz. That night when Pac & Nas @ the park, He was mostly with Goons from Chancellor Ave in Irvington, New Jerz After 95 He was never with Dudes from Queens. Ea$t vs We$t was about culture vultures making money. All of the Outlawz was from the East Coast. Most of the members were from Jersey. Pac started going in hard after he heard Do Wop & others dissing him on mixtapes. Puff was on Video Music Box dissing Pac. Remember these mixtape wasn’t being played on the West Coast. Pac still end up hearing them. Salute to the OG Dres he’s a top tier Emcee.
I don't get it , Pac is not here but people still talk about him to tarnish his name, but it won't work , who cares about his personality, focus on his Talent....
@@melocarlo199 only when you mention all negative things about 2Pac and he's not here to defend his self now that's pure hate , just changes my thoughts on Black Sheep as a group now, even when you have a little Fame you can still be a hater....
@@melocarlo199 Okay if you say someone speaks truth why does the conversation sound very negative like Black Sheep dislike him? He could have kept that to his self...
He said PAC was scared to perform , but he wasn’t scared to ignore Dres and turned his head when Dre’s approached him . Sounded like Pac was cocky , and Son’d Dres. That scared of fights is cap , ninjas fight at most rap concerts in those days and sometimes get to bussin. That ain’t nothing new to a dude like PAC who been on the road for years
Right... Face told the story of Pac in concert a few times about how he wasn't scared and trying to fight a gang of dudes until he stopped him...He went at the GD's in Milwaukee over the child being killed....notice its always those who dislike Pac who try to discredit or belittle his stature/status/legacy manhood
Pac was going to house party's out here in the worst hoods in Oakland and damn near got attacked many times cause he simply took all the chick's and he was loud...pac was never scared. Lol
Tupac had the attitude to do whatever whenever however he wasn't the type to back down from a performance and I doubt he was scared at all about being there Black sheep just trying to dirty up his name because they wasn't a part of the history
Shit sounds so personal on why he chose DMX over Pac. He's holding on to some shit that happened so long ago. A pointless reason why he chose DMX. Not about music but some personal shit.
i'm from Cali. born and raised, and i have ALWAYS been a bigger fan of DMX than 2pac. I love both, but X is a sicker lyricist. Pac doesn't have a single album that is better than It's Dark and Hell is Hot
@@akeemthacrazed9403 I don't think there will ever be a album better than it's dark and hell is hot ,that was a bone chilling masterpiece ,and it's timeless
I h8 how brothers be all in they feelings over not being necessarily bigger or just as big as the brother Pac. Hate it or Love it but Tupac was that dude! 💯
Makes nO sense, his rant to me sounds like he’s he’s been holding on to something that must’ve happened between the to. It’s not natural for someone to be ask a simple ? Than go on a rant about someone’s character.
@@2pacOneNation07 And your profile name shows that you are a man, vice-gripped on to Pac’s scr0tum as if you his woman. You fan-boys always in yah feelins when somebody say somethin unflattering about your idol.
I don't respect not sucker talking after the man after being dead for almost twenty six years. If you didn't have the balls to say it back then don't say it now. No body ever thought this dude was a gangster. He didn't scare nobody back then.
NORE is growing a weird obsession with Tupac that’s VLAD levels of weird. EFN & Chi Ali were the only logical ones here and even Dre’s man had to check him for leaving out context
The thing about pac is he was still a child for real when he died. Imagine pac at 40. We only get a glimpse of what he truly could have been. He was so wise and talented beyond his years. Same.could be said about others like big L and what not. So it's hard to ever compare an artist who lived longer than these guys. Same can be said for so many other artist. You say you know the best but what if Otis redding didn't die in that plane crash or aliyah even. Too young.
He was a kid he died age 25 years old yes he was a walking contradiction but he was hip hop, tupac was not the best lyricist never but the greatest hip hop star, he basically died for hip hop
25 is not a child fk I can’t stand the rhetoric put out by people in this generation. This BS actually started in the 90s when I was growing up. Once I became old enough to vote I considered myself a grown man. This is exactly the type of crap that contributes to the overwhelming immaturity of this era’s human population. Unreal.
I thought it was just ME until I read the comments lol. You mad huh?? Lol. Damn!! Pac was really a great. Only the GREATS get this much HATE in hip hop.
@@rashellwilli6254 well….. yea… I’m from the bay … I’m x generation … yea.. we all lived it bud…. We were all there.. every line pac rapped - we lived it.. the bay.. oaktown to marin to Vallejo to the 415… hunters point … We didn’t run around waving the rainbow flags like y’all today ….
@@kkim1177 wrong Pac wasn’t getting smacked around in marine county. Ik that for a fact. Ya stay hating on Pac and come up with some of the fakest stories lol
Dres ain't hating he is telling you his perspective and he was there. Don't get mad because he blew down the MYTH that Pac was a Supa Thug. Michael Jai White has said he hung with Pac and he wasn't the gangsta that alot of y'all think he is. 🤷🏿♂️
This cat don’t rep how all New Yorker feel about PAC. Him being his age and turning a simple PAC or DMX question into a fucking 23 minute thesis about a 21 year old kid is weird.
Shows how much Pac was ahead of his time he was more about positivity around that time he was only 21-22 yrs old & you gotta remember his family lineage he has a black panther for a mother he wasn’t about that shit early on it was after he started to be targeted by police and falsely accused when he flipped out completely… He started to see the world for what it really was and people for who they really were unfortunately he was loyal to people that really truly didn’t care about him and that got him killed
EFN, you’re making it clear that you don’t like, was annoyed at or didn’t respect this guest. You kept it professional but it’s obvious my dude. You’re awesome. You keep the show very legit. Stay that please.
@@kc718201 I understand where you’re coming from. I’m just reading EFN’s body language. As a professional talk show/podcast host, they are biased about who they call icons vs who they call a legend. The intro always tells me how successful NORE thinks the guest is (respectfully). I think the interview started off good but Dres is a long winded talker (no disrespect) and he took too long to answer questions. Chi had to check a couple of times. Dres was throwing shade intentionally and unintentionally at people to give the whole story but it came out salty. EFN, had to help him get to the point too many times and I think he was done with him.
@@kc718201 for the record, I’m an “old school rapper” that didn’t make big but I’m not mad at Pac or anybody else for being a legend. Now I do hiphop because I genuinely love doing it. Dres was one of my faves and I think he should take the high road next time. Even if he knew another side of our cultural icons, he might want to reword his comments before it damages his legacy…which is dope btw. He could literally write a script about all of this and get box office smash. #thisorthat
Yeah i think Dres kind of sounded bitter and jealous and not authentic. You see Chi come in a few times to say "Pac was the same when I met him" and EFN said" he aint here to defend hisself"
@@nigelryan5658 and I know he didn’t wanna sound that way. From the abundance of his heart, his mouth spoke unfortunately. He either needs new success to help him let go of the past or closure on some unfinished business. Sounds like good counseling will help him move forward.
So basically he feels some type of way because Tupac didn't stick around in a shitty situation. It's the headliners get stuck with the lawsuit's. Look how they are getting at Travis Scott for his concert. Glad the other guy pointed out what really happened in the crowd. These guys are obviously feeling some type of way.
Tupac is an class by himself .
Yea fake gangster
@@dblockvillin 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
X all day
yeah u can tell he didn't like 2pac the character or persona... he keep saying "i got love for" and "not to disrespect" but he literally went out of his way to basically say Pac was fake. its simple as that
Fact!!!!! 💡💡💡💡💡
Is he saying that or that's what you getting out of that..He's not the First, second, or third person to say Pac got multiple personalities...
I've been saying that from day one. People need to separate the artist from the person.
@@sincerethegod325 thats what he's saying because he keeps harking on that one interaction they had at that show where he felt that because he portrays a tough image his actions didn't match it when he was in an uncomfortable situation. and the whole part in the beginning of his "speech" talking about how time can either build a myth or tarnish it. Pac was called multifaceted or mr. duplicity while he was alive shit everyone has different sides to them but that man sitting there saying Pac wasn't what ppl thought he was. why else would he bring up that story when the original question was asking him to pick between DMX and 2pac..? not to mention the fact he snickered and laughed b4 he went into it
These old bitter dudes just hating that's all. The question was about music and he just goes off on pac like the guy doesn't have family members and friends that are alive. He should have just said dmx and keep it moving. Stop trying to justify this hating shit. Pac deceased. Let him rest. Tired of these old new York dudes hating on a guy that died almost 30 years ago. It's getting old as fuck
They call Pac a punk for wanting to leave the spot after the 5th fight, but they call him crazy for rushing Orlando, calling out all of Chicago on stage for Yummy, Pulling a strap when he was about to get robbed at Quad, and Shooting 2 off-duty cops… WHAT IS IT?! Lol
mfs pick and choose what fits their stories
🎯🎯🎯🎯
Talk about ir
Brah dissed Pac so many times in this interview … he kept saying I don’t wanna, I’m not trying to, but you did brah ! Why y’all hate on that man so much you can tell he was the man when he was alive .
You can tell it's more to it
He's only known for one song and Pac known for many singles.... Pac all day
He asked DMX or 2pac. It turn into a hate rant. The music cutting him off was on point.
It’s not hate he’s just stating his opinion those hate and opinion are 2 different things
Exactly he came up with a goofy ass reasons and not really answering the question really but none the less it's his reason
naw yall just hate to hear the truth about pac. if he was talking good about pac for a whole hour you would have nothing to say
He didnt even say why he choice dmx nore asked him why
@@cruzescobar187 it was definitely hate
There were people who were killed during/after PAC’s performances. He didn’t want any more people to get hurt while he performed or get blamed. He was dealing with a lot of civil cases against him. He was being smart.
Damn right!
Facts like WTF is wrong with this dude it sound like PAC was smart according to the dude in the Red. That dude would never see a brother getting jumped on by 2 white men step in & defend him. Not step in & fight another brother.. white men who were Police.. until he can say he did that. Don’t speak on PAC
So how is hoping onto BIG gonna help
@@Tshipa You mean Mr. "Who shot ya"? Nothing else a ninja could do but "Hit em up".
Blacks have been made to be so weak that the white man can give him his hero and he'll accept it,..... That nigga wasn't nobody to follow, IN REAL LIFE.....He played gangster and RAN INTO REEL ONES.....
He kept saying not to dis him but kept dissing him 🤦🏽♂️
He's not dissing him you sensitive niggas, he's speaking on how pac REALLY was compared to how niggas like you view him, and he's speaking from personal experience, not like he doesn't know him, he clearly knew the guy personally, you didn't, cmon man, and I'm a HUGE pac fan, but facts are facts
Dude def had a personal vendetta it showsss this answer was sooo drawn out 😂 i aint hurd DMX name since the beginning
He coulda saved us 25 minutes by just saying he envious of pac
Right he coulda just said I'm a Pac hater but I got love for him as a brother
Definitely 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He says he a real NY cat, but he's still angry at another man who wanted to cum, do the job and get the f out of a situation he could read was offish 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Old fools!!!
💯! Now you could see why pac hated so many ny cats.
Stop it 😆 you are right tho
Now I know the reason why pac ain’t really like most y’all cowards Jadakiss voice
I'm 40. You ask my grandma who 2pac is and she'll tell you. My son 10. He gonna tell you who Pac is. There are rappers in the game right now who has no idea who this dude is. Dudes from NY. Pac was 25 when he died. How old this dude?? Big up EFN.
He was closet hating on Pac heavy.
I’m 37 love pac and big. Had all their albums since they came out and still never heard of this dude. 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂. Dude talking about a kid in his late teens and early 20s when he knew him. Fkin clown
My grandma and daughter know who vanilla ice is too...
24mins About 2PAC.... That MAN really left A mark on People... RIP 2PAC
Right. This is why I hate the question because if u break down X like this u can have bad things to say as well. R.I.P. both are legendary.
Pac was so big all these old famous new york rappers hated him because he was everything they wanted 2 b and more actor poet big movie star iconic figure ladies man president of the black panthers so much more
Just like orlando anderson and them quad goons left a mark on tupac lol
@@deez44s dmx took pacs spotlight
That's what you took from that. Lol.
You can feel the energy from New Yorkers when it comes to Pac. You can feel the hate.
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These days some try to claim it was all love back then but at that time damn near every NY dude I knew disliked Pac's music. Called him trash. For real.
@@D.Nice.. Funny, because that's exactly how the rest of the country felt about ny music.. trash. Which is why nwa, deathrow and 2pac destroyed ny in the early to mid 90's. Bodied ny so bad ny stop doing ny rap, and started copying w. coast music. Now ny copy a mixture of w. coast and southern rap. Hell pac still destroying ny now, which is why it's always some corny lame bitter ny ninja that throw shade on Pac's name in all these youtube interviews.. except for Nas he always give pac his flowers. Even tho nas can thank pac for his Hennessey deal.
" let you get my last shot of hennessey, ain't never had a friend like me" -2pac
Facts
@@mr.nyceguy7800ol this corny ass essay..when did NY try to sound like Cali? Show me the song!? I can show you how ice cube sounded like NY when he left NWA tho...Cali loves to pick Pac as their own...Pac lived in Cali for 7 years...he ain't from Cali...If 69 moves to Cali for 8 years ya'll gonna claim him....only goes to show the d-riding and the fact the no goat in your eyes is from ya'll soil...bozzos should just get behind Cube who's dope instead of riding for "MC-New York" like he from your hood
This dude low key dissing PAC at the same pretending to be a good friend of his
It was pretty high key bro
He was around pac when he was alive... so he definitely know more about that man than you groupie fans ever will.
@@craigmiller507 these guys exaggerating their experience with pac. This man probably was around pac 4 a week
@@craigmiller507 I’ve been around pac too
The jealousy towards Pac runs deep
Dude has a lot of malice towards Tupac. You can clearly tell. When you start a sentence with 'I got love for Pac but...' you already know.
Everybody got there good and bad about them
@@SHARPEYE1 that's true and I'm not denying that but in this case you can see there's still some feelings there. It's like it bothers him how much people love Tupac.
Every story about pac is not gonna be a fairy tale.....
I'm glad u caught that , facts not to many new york dudes genuinely like tupac 💯
@@bklynlive30 it's not that. Look at how he said 'Thats easy for me, DMX' and started laughing. This dude be holding onto feelings. Tupac is loved and he can't stand it.
Anybody that knows Pac, know damn well he ain’t said that to Pac 🤣
Exactly 💯😂🤣
I guarantee you if you ask a West Coast brother Pac or DMX he would probably pick Pac without hating on DMX.
We love dmx
It's not hate its a story that he's telling. And he's right over the years the myth of 2Pac has been added to over and over again.
I question brothers who are quick to say someone is hatin.
@@j.wellington777 come on, you can tell by the tone of his voice that he's hating. What was the point of rambling on and on about this lame dead end story when the question was most likely about who was the better artist between pac and dmx lol and he takes it somewhere else. Also the guy in the red t shirt checking him tells me all I need to know. The man is still jealous and bitter of Tupac legacy and reverence and is trying everything he can to assassinate and demean his character. He's jealous, period. I find it cowardly too for this old ass man to sit here and shit on someone that passed young and can no longer defend himself. Lame, Im not rocking with this crap.
Dmx ain’t diss Cali so no shit
PAC said in various interviews that wasn’t a gangster and said he never had criminal record until he got famous. What does anything he said have to do with the impact that PAC had on Hip Hop and society? These old dudes still down talk a 25 year old dead man as if they were perfect in their 20’s. As far as honor goes, who had 15 kids out of wedlock since character is what we’re using to decide who’s great. Them NY cats be salty, boy. Like modern women. You basically said DMX is a better artist because PAC offended your weak ass feelings before.
i liked ur comment. im fro NY tho...and my GOAT is DON MAKAVELI....and alooooooot of NY ppl feel d same way. Majority of us here in NY LOVE Pac & have him as our GOAT, rightfully so.
Pac first rap name was MC New York. He was from there you clown. Get off his nuts
@@cesarguerra8102 You're a clown
low key hating smh
Dude relax you all in yo feelings for men you neva met... are you sus? Relax and listen.
Big up to EFN for defending Pac
Glad the dude in the red shirt came in and told the whole story. 🤨🤨🤨🤨
Thank you, that was mad sus to leave that part out
Exactly. Sounds Like a little hate and Envious energy to me
Ya act like that didn't make pac looks soft that's what ya don't understand in nyc fights and cuts to the face is normal on the block if you try to leave or flinch people know you soft in those times
@@fabolousjada5070 NY is weird it's why pac came to the west..we pimpish yall simpish
THE 2PAC HATE SEEMS PERSONAL 💯
Always
The Pac slurping is more personal
@gulf r. a. naw fam I'm a west coast nigga from the bay we see and sniff envy and dres is salty and obviously has a personal experience he can't get over, why are you mad how people perceive a man, I bet he couldn't pull as many hoes as pac did that l know NY get niggas mad when it comes to hoes and you happen to have more, shout ot to EFN I know he wasn't feeling it
… pac wasn’t it. Not the one people think he was
Because he didn't want to help an unknown name group trying coming out that had nothing to do with him, felt like if he felt uncomfortable that night is because pac is a dude from the west in a room full of new york people scrapping
Lmao you know Dres frontin when EFN had to step in. No respect for dres
Picking Apart And Criticizing A Young Man’s Growth And Development, A Young Man That Died A Young Man, And Decades Later Trying To Hold Him Accountable On The Standards of A Mature Man Because Now You’re Over 50yrs Old Is Crazy. He Feels Like Pac Isn’t Deserving of The Legacy That Lives On. Life Is Seen Thru The Minds Lenses (Eyes) And The Eyes See What The Mind Thinks. It’s All About Perspective. Everyone Has Their Own Truths…
U hit it right on da head my G
That is so real Pac was 19 or 20 i seen a video of me & my friends at that age we was arrogant & cocky and cursing for no reason he never had time to mature
💯💯You're on point
He did all pick apart on a man who didn’t get to grow in time but i know wat he mean but if he gonna pick apart pac he gotta do dmx too thts just real just imagine wat dmx really could had been crack wasn’t his down fall💯🤦🏾♂️
NY was hating on everybody's music even themselves. Snoop and Dp made NY NY and biggie called the radio station and told NY to go against em and they shot at em, then dp re edited the video kicking buildings. NY still haven't taken accountability blaming erbody else
Yoooo Dres where was this energy in 1996 when pac was alive and well????
Right 😂 now he was a coward
Well he was alive...🤤
But when he's gone
I'll be talking again 💪
Well!!!🤣😂
The man telling a Story that he approached Pac in front of his dudes and his man just acknowledged the story..So basically he did have that energy, he was trying to figure out why Pac didn't....I Fuck with Pac but questions like the one you pose is the Reason he's saying what he said....
"Niggas talk a lot of shit but that's after I'm gone/ Cause they fear me in the physical form" -Tupac
PAC being 25 did a lot of lifetime work on our culture and as a people. Not surprised he was immature at times or overly aggressive. I.m sure he would grow out of it if he lived longer. He did a lot and he would have done even more ❤️
He was still a kidd he had to grow up fast there was too much at stake nobody lift’s there voice like him i haven’t seen that in year’s☺️untill the second wave😂they ain’t gone be ready for this ☝🏾 salaam✊🏾
2pac or DMX? Dude could've just said DMX and stated what he likes about DMX's artistry. Instead, he goes on a 24-minute rant on 2pac's shortcomings. That's weird. And he kept saying no disrespect, not to shit on, no offense, but... That's a clear sign of someone being disingenuous. This guy had maybe one "hit" song in 1991 the title of which most people don't even remember. I sense a bit of envy from this Dres guy.
What’s sad is all pac homeboys ain’t gonna say nothing only his fans.
@@TrueProphit Right. Maybe Young Noble may say something... Good thing Pac has real fans. I mean, I wouldn't be mad if Dres said DMX and proceeded to tell how he likes his flow, delivery, wordplay, etc. But no, he had to go on a 24-minute rant.
He don't really like him, but don't wanna come out and say it. A lot of these NY guys never got over 2Pac dissing NY rappers (some not all). Especially when he disses BIG and Jay Z. They still in their feelings 20 years later. Truth hurts. Lies don't sting this long.
Notice, everybody talking ish is "NY" rappers? LOL. DP need to make another video and step on some more buildings in NY.
@@themiseducationoftheameric7407 Dawg I luv that line you said "Lies don't sting this long". That's fire.
Exactly. He didn’t say anything about music. Just his few interactions with him lol
Nore was waiting on a negative Pac story…… I wish Nore would just say he doesn’t like Tupac. I get it the other nigga. Pac might have cost you some paper potentially. But Blacksheep was playing out in 92. Pac was what 20 maybe 21 and you calling him soft for not wanting to perform with another guy(biggie). I am glad the other 2 guys came in a straightened out the story
Thank you he can’t hide it! This west coast east coast bs is garbage! We don’t own a ding block.
Nah, y'all too sensitive... when you a real nigga, you can't tell no lies. Nore had problems with Pac during the East/West beef... he's clear on that... but he doesn't hate him. He's not sour and bitter over that 25 years later.
Nore wack as ish always hating on pac
@@KtotheG bs that nigga nore a hater always been
@@KtotheG when will they let it go ?? The hate can't kill his legacy
" Niggas talk a lot of shit, but that's after I'm gone
'Cause they fear me in physical form
Let it be known I'm troublesome "
2pac - Troublesome 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯🎯
Exactly
TuTuPac. Nobody feared that ballerina ask Haitian Jack
I was just about to say that!!!
you beat me to it damn!... 🤦🏽😁
Let it be known ❤
I met pac once and he wasnt intimidating at all couldnt believe how small he was but always had big dudes around him,he reminded me more of one of them little dogs that snap at ya ankles,the little homie who always felt he had something to prove.
Nobody thought Pac was intimidating.. We thought Pac was a black man coming up in America.. Period !!
I actually know what he meant when he said that, it's because if you listen to alot of his fanbase, people make it seem like Pac had people shook and that wasn't the case. Pac was a Respected Artist and was becoming a Bigger actor. Most people didn't catch on to Pac until he got locked up then went to DeathRow.
@Belzabet Empire Lol No He wasn't...Pac was a Dope Rap Artist...Wasn't no Mob Boss.. When you a Boss, the things that Happened to him Wouldn't have... I Fuck With Pac but I call it like I See It.....
@Belzabet Empire Lol The World Says That Huh...Im a Fan of Pac but just because someone is The Most Popular don't mean he's the best...People only said that after him and Biggie died..It was Never said while he was Alive...Definitely didn't say it, his first couple of albums..So just because people jumped on the Bandwagon after he got Shot, went to jail, and signed to DeathRow doesn't necessarily mean that...Definitely an All time Great...but it was other rappers who were better Definitely Lyrically...
@@sincerethegod325that’s a lie
Clearly Pac Must’ve Pounded Out One Of Dres’s Bitches Or Something 😂😭😂😂😂 & Nore, I Lost Mad Respect For You, How You Gonna Sit Up There & Act Like Pac Wasn’t Born In Harlem & Had Massive Ties To Queens. The Man’s Rap Name Was MC New York For Christ Sakes Before He Decided To Go By His Own Birth Name... Pac Was Probably More New York Than All Of Them Up There..... I Really Dont Get It
Facts bro these niggas knew what time it was when pac was alive 💀💯
Facts!!!
Yup nigga still in they feelings 🤣🤣🤣
I got no respect for any of these dudes except EFN. Made the whole interview about Pac instead of talking about the one hit they made.
What y'all keep forgetting that pac had a vendetta against New York he rocked with certain NY cats but he went after NY when he left prison my man's was locked up with him he was getting extorted yo lol
Both GOATS in their own way.
LEGENDS
WTF was he talking about in this long-ass dead-end story??
A whole lot of nothing
The beginning was so weird & lame smh
T.o.n.y most likely.
Exactly. A whole fucking dead end story.... Pac forever hands down!!
This is why pac is the 🐐 26 years later his name live on almost like a biblical figure
Exactly Pac's life is bigger than his music. and like the bible Pac's life has alot of embellishment, over-exaggeration and lies.
I never viewed him in this capacity. But you're kinda right.
Tupac the goat and been living rent free in haters minds for over 25 years 😂😂😂
RIP TUPAC AND DMX🙏❤️❤️
This dude with the white tshirt never once explained why he chose DMX over 2Pac. You just told a story and left out one very important aspect to it. The brother with the red collared shirt had to come to the table and clarify things. 2pac was spiritual and felt uncomfortable because of the fights, what's fake about protecting your energy? Having an opinion is one thing but when you go out of your way just to belittle someone who isn't here to defend themselves tells me a lot about your character! You're a true BUSTER, whatever your name with the white tshirt in this video. 2pac is a revolutionary, his legacy will always be REMEMBERED!
Listen to these salty Stans cry 🤣
@@HRDRZ Who's crying BIH? All because that BIH nigga with the white tshirt has an OPINION doesn't make anything factual. If anyone Is salty it's you BUSTER!
@Darkelz Smith the fights weren't a big deal to anyone but Pac. So he fvcked other dudes over because he was scared? That's some bih ish.
@@HRDRZ So its not smart fighting Orlando Anderson, but dumb for trying to leave an event that had multiple fights... Pac cant win with yall haters
@Mobius not dumb, just pvssy af
They let him talk long enough for the hate to come to light Lmao 🤣😂
He ain't stop either😂😂😂
This guy mad because 2Pac messed his show up … Being emotional bruh
he now left the part out of fights going on, smh, sly nigga
@@bighuncho5587 facts! It's crazy how he left such important details out that story!
It wasn’t his it was the don’s
People Talk S***After Pac Passing...But When He Was Alive Most of these Dude Are Quiet as a Church Mouse...Pac Was Against particular people in NYC that most of them cross him...Pac Didn't Say Fuck NYC...Method Man...Redman on All Eyes On Me. He held Wu tang member down and got him chain back after it was taken...He was still with Jamming with Greg Nice And Smooth B..Eric B....Nothing like the Old School is on Me Against The World Was Tribute To NYC...California Love On All Eyes On Me Album....2 Pac Is From NYC and Have Ties to Northern California so he going to Have Love for Both Sides..Dres talking Real Slick...Dmx is same dude that said about deceased 2 pac he suck his d*** ..I believe alot of that had something to do with the feeling that people felt that dmx was stealing from pac earlier on...only thing to me that separate dmx and pac was the dog theme and heavy drug habits but thats it...alot of of pac influence same for ja rule which he man enough to say he was inspired by pac..My Problem is They Didn't say this S*** When Pac was Alive..its Sucka S*** !!
All fizzzzacts!!!! 💯💯
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Rest In Peace 2pac
Facts
A 50 year old man doing 25 minutes on a 20year old man he knew 30 years ago
A lot of these artist from that era was jealous of Tupac NOT because of his music or talent.
But because Tupac was getting the females.
PAC was taking these niggas women and running threw em.
That story Snoop Dogg told of PAC taking a certain celebrity female from him and when he called her to come through, she replies with I don’t think Tupac would like that is a PERFECT example of what I’m trying to say. Probably why Snoop started hating on him🤷🏾♂️
Straight jealousy FOH!!!
Why they had to be Jealous? I really think alot of people was Young in Pac time because alot of things he's saying is correct and I'm a Pac fan but I doubt those Rappers was Jealous of Pac, especially around the time he's talking about....
Pac mist of broke his girl off too
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@TrueProphit right
Nore definitely got some feelings about Pac. He's always trying to get other people to say something negative but in a slick way. He even did it when the Dogg Pound was on the show but he said it with different energy. He love pointing out the Old School/Cali Love song comparison. I've seen him do it 3 or 4 times now.
Nore is just keepin it real... a lot of us street cats in NY felt some type of way about Pac in '95-'96 when he was on his East/West rampage... dudes today want to act like it was all love, but it wasn't... Pac really did have the streets heated... and Biggie had West Coast cats heated... the beef was real with the fans. The magazines blew it up. Some artists tried to play it off, but shit was real. I don't think Nore hates Pac still to this day... and neither do I... but a lot of us were saying F him back in the day.
@@KtotheG Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, South America and the whole West Coast still have respect for Pac no matter what his critics say. We know the truth!
Because he know 2Pac was a fraud
@@naturalimmunity7007 I will never respect a man that is talkin negatively behind a dead man’s back. Especially Pac. Pac wasn’t an ordinary dude. He was a well known artist and character. Look at his face and the way he talks. It’s obvious that he’s a weak man that tries to act tough and wise. A wise man respects the dead Period.
@@sidohofman6835 You don't know their relationship. You're on the outside looking in. Besides, he didn't dis him. You're being overly sensitive.
Life experiences change people, Pac was going through alot in a short period of time. He not only was catching cases left and right, but he also felt like dudes who were suppose to be his people violated, shot and robbed him, went to prison for an alleged sexual assault, got out and started bangin in the west. Time is crazy, he might have been a different dude in his last days from when he was a kid running around on the east
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Exactly 💯
He been in west he brought biggie out there and perform out there he didn't bang the west but he said since people talking about where they from why not talk about LA he was living there at the time.. Tupac was still going back and forth to the east coast.. no one say anything about kurupt when he's from my city Philly ice t from Jersey.. even pac gave you the old school on me against the world..NYC traded on pac while he was in jail NYC started that rumor which was Wendy Williams and others said pac getting raped in prison.. once pac came out he had things to get off his chest people said he's crazy.. that is like me saying you rape little kids . But when you respond I say this nigga is crazy make it seem as you started shit..
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Dres could have told that story when Pac was alive. Nore get Spice 1 on the show, A Outlaw , C Bo. Somebody who really knew Pac.
These fools are trying to Re-Write History.
@@wnnfrhrw4452 they doing a damn good job too, damn haters
Get Richie Rich on here
Straight facts 💪🏾💯
Nore won't be acting like this around Treach or Spice 1 or Mike 🤣🤣🤣
WHY YALL ALWAYS TYRNA ENCOURAGE THE GUEST TO PICK DMX OVER 2PAC ??? 🤔 WHAT'S THE REAL AGENDA 👁
NY bias shit
THANK YOU !!! THE 25 YEARS OF NON STOP HATE AGAINST TUPAC SHAKUR IS UNREAL !!! SMDH
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Easy to feel held down when your crew is deep. Tupac was solo. He didnt run in a pack. The pack ran with him.
PAC ran with DU & NBN. FOH!
Pac was a follower. WTF are you talking about.
Bruh wtf u talking about? There’s hundreds of videos online with Tupack rolling with deep ass crews u Tupack fanatics always trying to change history 😂😂
Another example of folks making pac larger than life!
The thing that confuses me when people talk about Pac is that they try to expose him even though there’s nothing to expose. Everything about his life he exposed himself and why does nore keep referring to a playlist on a streaming app like it’s an album because old school and California love are on two different albums
Facts
It's that clown ass NY slick talk...you know how they do
Facts
@@fboyd109 Lol... nah man, y'all bamas too sensitive....foh.
@@KtotheG Very sensitive lol New Yorkers be living rent free in they head.
Shoutout to Chi Ali, EFN & the brotha in the red who added in (especially the dude in the red who added context to that clown Dre’s story)
Tupac had wolves around him that loved him. And as far as the “he hated NY” shit that Nore continues to push.. literally half his fine was from NY/Jersey… wtf is Nore problem
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Facts
To be fair on (hit ‘em up )he did say “any of you New York niggas wanna bring it bring it”
@@A.I_Leon_TV he knew they would feel a way. He was from there so he wasn't dissing em all. Too bad he died too young he couldn't grow up like errbody else
Nore drunk all the time running his mouth. He won't do that shit around any of 2pac people I can guarantee that.
The commentary was good and was a lot of things said in this interview.On another level this was a teachable moment.That moment was when Q came in and gave context to Dres story.”Context in a story is everything “.. Context drives the motive, Context navigates the direction, and Context displays the BIGGER picture.
Pac embraced a Chaotic energy so when hes in a chaotic environment why wasn’t he comfortable. Thats Dres point
@@Coach_LoveWe get that, but when Dres left out the key components to Pac's change of mind it was misleading. His man gave us context that didn't diminish Dres' feelings, but it gave the audience more clarity on Pac's point of view in the moment. Without context there is no way to truly comprehend a story.
I don't believe dres he mad because pac left early and went on before him he trying to say pac was pussy at the end of the day and that's fucked up
@@PurebreedFLAExactly because it's footage on UA-cam when Pac was with Death row filming a video, fights were breaking out, he got soo mad he left the set. Same scenario!! East Pac/West Pac...what's crazy, when Pac was alive, none of these hating dudes said a word!!😅😅😅😅
Ali was the only NY OG that kept it real on the subject & they lowkey aint like that shit 😂😂 he pretty much said “wow wth? yeah yall niggas still hurt & hatin. i was there too. Pac was solid”
He still hasn’t said why he prefer DMX as an artist 😂.
Actually he did, but then again ya'll listen to the words and not the message. It's all good though, that's why you think Hit Em Up was the hardest diss track ever.
@@jamescummings6703 Nope that would be No Vaseline by Cube.
@@jamescummings6703
Tbh 2pac Watch Yo Mouth is harder than No Vaseline and Hit em up it just wasn't released until after 2pac died.
@@jamescummings6703 Yeah basically he said his decision has nothing to do with pac and x music. It has a lot to do with his personal relationship with Pac at a show. He didn't really like Pac
@@kennyboudreaux1657
Cube is a beast and I give him credit for his song even Death Row Records added his song to they greatest hits album and clearly he's not with death row but it's not as good as Hit Em Up it's still played to this day on the radio and in the clubs it is what it is it's timeless.
Exactly...what DJ EFN said! Pac died young and its unbelievable what he accomplished in his short run actually. Easy to pick apart a 25yr old cat...Dres definitely a little salty.
Why are these dudes up here throwing shade on a man that has been deceased longer than he was alive and why is nore always bringing up tupacs name every chance he gets, why does he always have 2pac name in his mouth like what did pac do to you 🤣. It I think it's lame that all these 50 year old dudes are sitting here shitting on someone that passed away young and died almost 30 years ago. So much animosity towards 2pac. So lame. This guy talking sounds jealous of tupacs legacy and reverence.
Because the Truth is the truth
Because they are like bitter women..they mad every chick on this planet was a pac fan...thats the real reason
What Jadakiss say " I see why Pac didn't like y'all niccaz" ...You can tell these dudes could never bury the hate they have for Tupac.I can imagine what they say when the cameras are off.Nore trying to hide his hate, but just look how angry he looked quoting those Cali Love lyrics.I bet these dudes celebrated when Pac died.
@@dirtyface-capone7622 where did Jada say this?
@@jundean5292 ua-cam.com/video/_DoYxg3Oqz0/v-deo.html
Kiss verse starts at 1:32.
Sounds like this guy's girl gave Pac that 🐈.....and he still hasn't gotten over it.
This man sounds like he still has envy in his heart.
Shoutout EFN for being the voice of reason and defending Pac’s side when it looked like niggas were talking shit “respectfully”
Growing up in LA, I always felt that that the Latinos loved PAC more than the black community.
That’s exactly what he doing
It was pretty high key brother!!
Yessir
Wasn't nothing to defend on Pac side, if you're old enough to remember what it was at the time, Dres and Nore didn't say anything wrong.
So sad how a lot of these rappers be sounding like bitter ex-girlfriends 25 years later🤦🏾♀️😞 He’s the GOAT! Period. His legacy will never be tarnished no matter how many of you haters try😂
Pac was a PONY
Feel dat
Exactly !! This dude is from the group Black sheep ..who is a ONE HIT WONDER .🙄
Nobody tarnished nothing they spoke on their experiences that’s not hating
Pac said cats would talk about him when he's dead and gone because they fear him in the physical form!!!!👑
This is a hit piece… Tupac at the time was 19 20 yrs old around the time they talking bout. This conversation is why hip hop is where it is and it ain’t black no more. No real preservation of the greats. You don’t see this in no other genres.
Stretch the dude pac think he set up in quad studios
*set him up
That's not facts. Damn near all genres of music got stories of artists past that the public don't know about. This here ain't even shittin on Pac. It's just real stories he had with him. It ain't that serious.
Dres just keeping it real
He was older than that
These New York cats are a trip man lol 😂
Including Tupac
@@deman19901 💯
NYC im starting to see they all are fake
@@deman19901 pac wasn't new York, he was a west coast rapper. He's more west than east.
@@michaeldaggerdick7122 Mc New York was an East coast rapper.
A room full of NY dudes discussing 2pac is always a weird sight. 2pac never said "fuck ny"...he said "if niggas in new york wanna bring it, bring it! I was talking about biggie and niggas opened their mouth with a mufuckin opinion"! He never dissed New York as a whole..he dissed some new york individuals.
Wrong listen to ny 87
He has a hate for pac obviously
U can hear the fake love and envy in his tone
Tupac use to diss the native tongues
He was actually hating on Pac and he’s friend came through and gave us the trap perspective on how and why Pac acted that way. Pac was right, mofos would talk smack after he was gone cus they feared him in physical form. Crazy
Facts
He was unpredictable, but he said what DMX said, he's a hood person but he battles good & evil like anyone else.
feared pac? ...lol lol lol llol lol whoever says that niggas feared pac, aint got no gangsta blood in their body. not a ounce
Lol.. yea they feared him. Not mob piru
😅 haha it was awesome how he hated on him because he deserved it
Even in his death Pac still smacking them, still giving them nightmares… what’s understood doesn’t need to be explained, crazy!
He made it personal. All he had to say was DMX & kept it moving. This was supposed to be about the music. People keep forgetting how young Pac was when he died. Dres probably didn’t see Pac in 96 bcuz He was always with the Outlawz. That night when Pac & Nas @ the park, He was mostly with Goons from Chancellor Ave in Irvington, New Jerz After 95
He was never with Dudes from Queens.
Ea$t vs We$t was about culture vultures making money. All of the Outlawz was from the East Coast. Most of the members were from Jersey. Pac started going in hard after he heard Do Wop & others dissing him on mixtapes. Puff was on Video Music Box dissing Pac. Remember these mixtape wasn’t being played on the West Coast. Pac still end up hearing them. Salute to the OG Dres he’s a top tier Emcee.
Facts them small hats wearing people made mad money of it.
Exactly, he was extra when all he had to say was DMX. It comes off like hating after
That’s ALL IM SAYIN! Thank you man! Smh
Pac was with dudes from queens...stretch and his crew is from queens
Nore asked to him elaborate. It hurts yall hearts hear that Pac wasnt thuggish or a gangster. Pac was perpetrator
I don't get it , Pac is not here but people still talk about him to tarnish his name, but it won't work , who cares about his personality, focus on his Talent....
Pacs ballet talent could've kept him outta trouble
Its just a story of his history....doesn't tarnish him.... makes him human. We all have faults, and fears.
@@melocarlo199 only when you mention all negative things about 2Pac and he's not here to defend his self now that's pure hate , just changes my thoughts on Black Sheep as a group now, even when you have a little Fame you can still be a hater....
@@jjrandom165 nah bro... pac spoke truth why shouldn't his elders?
@@melocarlo199 Okay if you say someone speaks truth why does the conversation sound very negative like Black Sheep dislike him? He could have kept that to his self...
I didn't hear none of this when Pac was alive. Cowards! "Talk a lot of s**t but that's after I'm gone. Cause you fear me in the physical form."
He said PAC was scared to perform , but he wasn’t scared to ignore Dres and turned his head when Dre’s approached him . Sounded like Pac was cocky , and Son’d Dres. That scared of fights is cap , ninjas fight at most rap concerts in those days and sometimes get to bussin. That ain’t nothing new to a dude like PAC who been on the road for years
Right... Face told the story of Pac in concert a few times about how he wasn't scared and trying to fight a gang of dudes until he stopped him...He went at the GD's in Milwaukee over the child being killed....notice its always those who dislike Pac who try to discredit or belittle his stature/status/legacy manhood
Pac was going to house party's out here in the worst hoods in Oakland and damn near got attacked many times cause he simply took all the chick's and he was loud...pac was never scared. Lol
Tupac had the attitude to do whatever whenever however he wasn't the type to back down from a performance and I doubt he was scared at all about being there Black sheep just trying to dirty up his name because they wasn't a part of the history
Then said Pac performed tho lol
Ask scarface was pac scared to fight he told a lot of stories about pac fighting. Dres full of it.
NY dudes stay hating into old age if it doesn’t even get worst
Nori a 2pac hater and never knew him 🤣 straight up goofy!
Ain't none of better than Tupac , ain't none of you gone be Remembered or be missed as much as he is and always will be. Hate or Love it.
But check this out pac is dead and dres is still alive and people remember pac of what he did but people remember dres now face it pac is dead lol
@Charles Jackson ok u go on and chase the ghost of pac ok✌🏾
@Charles Jackson u call it trolling but it's a fact that 2pac is dead hes gone
@@tonegee1083 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Facts💯🎯
Another New York dude hating on the goat…. Go figure
Yep
He's not the goat..., He was a fraud who played himself out with the gangsters on both coastes......
It's well deserved. Dres has right.
@@diamonddee178coastes huh? Slow mf
@@diamonddee178stop the cap
U can hear and smell the hate/jealousy, he talking like he was pac shadow.a few encounters and he knows everything about character?! Come on son
100%
Shit sounds so personal on why he chose DMX over Pac. He's holding on to some shit that happened so long ago. A pointless reason why he chose DMX. Not about music but some personal shit.
Agree
Big facts bruh BIG FACTS
Also had issues with fab five freddy😁
His own homiee telling him don't make up a story.Damm.He pretty much told him you be bullshitting and don't do it now.
I’m sorry and rip dmx but picking dmx over 2pac is ridiculous stop the fuckin cap
New York niggas
i'm from Cali. born and raised, and i have ALWAYS been a bigger fan of DMX than 2pac. I love both, but X is a sicker lyricist. Pac doesn't have a single album that is better than It's Dark and Hell is Hot
@@akeemthacrazed9403 I don't think there will ever be a album better than it's dark and hell is hot ,that was a bone chilling masterpiece ,and it's timeless
@@akeemthacrazed9403 makaveli album
Pac definitely got more bangers but X does as well. Pac just put out so much Damm music
He can say that cause pac is not here to speak for hisself.
Damn Nore! I didn’t know you hated PAC! That’s heart breaking! I didn’t know
He said he's a fan tho😂
@@DonYoGi8331you believe he’s a fan? Are you stupid?
I h8 how brothers be all in they feelings over not being necessarily bigger or just as big as the brother Pac. Hate it or Love it but Tupac was that dude! 💯
He was a little WWE though 😂
this long ass hate video answered the question 😂😂 they completely forgot about DMX & went on a rant about Tha Don Makaveli
yo BIG FACTSS!!! lmfaoo he picked DMX but talked about Pac for 24 minutes lmaoooo
Tupac is the King
Ain’t no way I’d be on national tv and my hate, disdain and jealousy of a person would be this prevalent.
this guy said "I choose DMX, but I will talk about Pac for 20+ minutes instead".
Well the man had an actual story to tell about Pac. If you was around Pac, wouldn’t you tell your story whether it was good or bad?
Makes nO sense, his rant to me sounds like he’s he’s been holding on to something that must’ve happened between the to. It’s not natural for someone to be ask a simple ? Than go on a rant about someone’s character.
@@2pacOneNation07 And your profile name shows that you are a man, vice-gripped on to Pac’s scr0tum as if you his woman. You fan-boys always in yah feelins when somebody say somethin unflattering about your idol.
Maybe when nore said "why" was the reason. Duh
Exactly
Red shirt came in and told the truth
Bro its clearly Pac when you choose X and spend 20 minutes explaining why its not Pac instead of why it is X.
I don't respect not sucker talking after the man after being dead for almost twenty six years. If you didn't have the balls to say it back then don't say it now. No body ever thought this dude was a gangster. He didn't scare nobody back then.
NORE is growing a weird obsession with Tupac that’s VLAD levels of weird.
EFN & Chi Ali were the only logical ones here and even Dre’s man had to check him for leaving out context
Facts! Finally sombody sees it
😂😂😂This is mad funny. Hating on a man while they not here is the pits. Even Nore tries to hide the hate a lot of times in interview.
The thing about pac is he was still a child for real when he died. Imagine pac at 40. We only get a glimpse of what he truly could have been. He was so wise and talented beyond his years. Same.could be said about others like big L and what not. So it's hard to ever compare an artist who lived longer than these guys. Same can be said for so many other artist. You say you know the best but what if Otis redding didn't die in that plane crash or aliyah even. Too young.
He was a kid he died age 25 years old yes he was a walking contradiction but he was hip hop, tupac was not the best lyricist never but the greatest hip hop star, he basically died for hip hop
25 y.o is not a child
Him stomping out a crip was not wise ? Tf ? He had a big heart but wise ? Not really
25 is not a child fk I can’t stand the rhetoric put out by people in this generation. This BS actually started in the 90s when I was growing up. Once I became old enough to vote I considered myself a grown man. This is exactly the type of crap that contributes to the overwhelming immaturity of this era’s human population.
Unreal.
Y’all probably 25 still living with ya parents stfu
I thought it was just ME until I read the comments lol. You mad huh?? Lol. Damn!! Pac was really a great. Only the GREATS get this much HATE in hip hop.
Stans and feminized youngsters confused criticism with hate because people can actually give an honest account without ball washing
@@muckmire3716 not with a 24 minute rant tho lol...could just answer the question abd keep it moving
Pac was 10 steps ahead, none of these dudes on or near his levels
I don’t believe anything he said about PAC
Pac got smacked around in marine county, ca as well…
@@kkim1177 you was there huh?
@@rashellwilli6254 well….. yea… I’m from the bay … I’m x generation … yea.. we all lived it bud…. We were all there.. every line pac rapped - we lived it.. the bay.. oaktown to marin to Vallejo to the 415… hunters point … We didn’t run around waving the rainbow flags like y’all today ….
@@kkim1177 wrong Pac wasn’t getting smacked around in marine county. Ik that for a fact. Ya stay hating on Pac and come up with some of the fakest stories lol
@@rashellwilli6254 he wasn’t there, I’m also from the Bay and that never happened.
He definitely from Salt Lake City… Team Tupac
Facts
Dres ain't hating he is telling you his perspective and he was there. Don't get mad because he blew down the MYTH that Pac was a Supa Thug. Michael Jai White has said he hung with Pac and he wasn't the gangsta that alot of y'all think he is. 🤷🏿♂️
This cat don’t rep how all New Yorker feel about PAC. Him being his age and turning a simple PAC or DMX question into a fucking 23 minute thesis about a 21 year old kid is weird.
Dres is definitely a hater. And yall shouldn't be talking about someone who isn't here
Shows how much Pac was ahead of his time he was more about positivity around that time he was only 21-22 yrs old & you gotta remember his family lineage he has a black panther for a mother he wasn’t about that shit early on it was after he started to be targeted by police and falsely accused when he flipped out completely… He started to see the world for what it really was and people for who they really were unfortunately he was loyal to people that really truly didn’t care about him and that got him killed
Damn good comment
...just s... up. fan boy
@@patrickkylaba lame
Weird thing is, 2Pac & DMX were always kool & ppl stay comparing them.
2pac better than D.M.X and I love them both
FACTSS
@@user-tk7rl6hw6c OPINION
No
I prefer X
@@tiagoleite3535 yea can't go wrong with it they are my favorite two rapper's
So much envy and so much hate from these old dudes 😂 they’re jealous of a 25 year old who done more in his short career than all of them put together.
Homie seem mad bitter and jealous of Pac he been dead for 30 years sheesh
EFN, you’re making it clear that you don’t like, was annoyed at or didn’t respect this guest. You kept it professional but it’s obvious my dude. You’re awesome. You keep the show very legit. Stay that please.
But if he didn't like the guest I don't think they would be on the show.
@@kc718201 I understand where you’re coming from. I’m just reading EFN’s body language. As a professional talk show/podcast host, they are biased about who they call icons vs who they call a legend. The intro always tells me how successful NORE thinks the guest is (respectfully).
I think the interview started off good but Dres is a long winded talker (no disrespect) and he took too long to answer questions. Chi had to check a couple of times. Dres was throwing shade intentionally and unintentionally at people to give the whole story but it came out salty. EFN, had to help him get to the point too many times and I think he was done with him.
@@kc718201 for the record, I’m an “old school rapper” that didn’t make big but I’m not mad at Pac or anybody else for being a legend. Now I do hiphop because I genuinely love doing it. Dres was one of my faves and I think he should take the high road next time. Even if he knew another side of our cultural icons, he might want to reword his comments before it damages his legacy…which is dope btw. He could literally write a script about all of this and get box office smash. #thisorthat
Yeah i think Dres kind of sounded bitter and jealous and not authentic. You see Chi come in a few times to say "Pac was the same when I met him" and EFN said" he aint here to defend hisself"
@@nigelryan5658 and I know he didn’t wanna sound that way. From the abundance of his heart, his mouth spoke unfortunately. He either needs new success to help him let go of the past or closure on some unfinished business. Sounds like good counseling will help him move forward.
So basically he feels some type of way because Tupac didn't stick around in a shitty situation. It's the headliners get stuck with the lawsuit's. Look how they are getting at Travis Scott for his concert. Glad the other guy pointed out what really happened in the crowd. These guys are obviously feeling some type of way.