CRAZIEST God MOMENT From Jordan Peterson's Event NOBODY Is Talking About
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You're blinded again by your bias.
You came to London? I would have loved to meet you and your family 🙂
This was very much a Christian event.
"Your True, my True" Yet Truth exists among Reality outside the self and unpossessable.
@ruslanKD
Which Christian religion is the true one?
Finding and listening very seriously to Jonathan Pageau has been the main reason I began going back to church.
I am currently a catechumen with my 4 kids in my local orthodox parish.
For those interested in the foundations of Christianity and just discovering his and his brothers work - I say they are absolutely worth your attention.
Ive listened to nearly everything he has posted (as I work a trade job with headphones) Here are my top recommendations for anyone wanting to hear more, arranged in order from general/easy to deep/complex.
1. The perfect mode of Being (interview with Peterson)
2. The christian story is inevitable (interview with speak life)
3. Symbolic vs literal interpretation
4. There is no literal meaning
5. How science is nested in religion
6. What is logos
7. All other podcasts on petersons channel with pageau. (A lecture by pageau: the symbolic world, 4 horsemen, deeper yet into the weeds with pageau and vervaeke)
It's not about Pageau the individual. We all know that. But he has eloquently provided a window for modern people to return to an ancient worldview in which everything - undeniably - matters.
Feel free to upvote so more people can see the list :)
Does he believe in an afterlife though? Hell, God's wrath and judgement, the cross as a real and necessary substitution to forgive our sins and cleanse us, saving faith and being born again, and Jesus being the only way and God Himself?
From what I've heard from him (a couple of hours), it seems to me he's more open to the scriptures as being metaphors meant to inspire and guide us so we can become the better versions of ourselves. Which would explain why Jordan likes him so much, since he teaches roughly the same thing.
@GustavoRivasMendez and btw I'm protestant not orthodox.
I am hindu, and I love listening to this
@@GustavoRivasMendez You may want to read the Nicean Creed, that is the foundation of what Orthodox Christians believe. I am confident that the answer to your question regarding his beliefs is yes.
@@GustavoRivasMendez I've watched quite a bit from him and he absolutely believes all of those things. There's a big difference between believing the Bible is metaphorical and believing it's symbolic. In fact in order to understand how true and literal the Bible is you have to understand the symbolic nature of every bit of the Bible, it makes it more true than any other book and puts every other religious doctrine to shame once you understand the symbolic accuracy.
🙌🏼🙌🏼 Jonathan Pageau opened my eyes and brought me to the Orthodox church. My husband and I are being baptized next month. Glory to God!
Jonathan is truly proving to be a treasure of Orthodoxy! ☦️
It makes me so happy to see a representative of the Orthodox faith begin to have some pull within the western mindset!
Totally agree! Δόξα στο Θεό. Glory to God ☦️
@@firmbiz000 Αμήν. Δόξα εσύ Κύριε δόξα εσύ!☦️
✝️☦️✝️
I could be wrong because I'm not orthodox but I try to consume orthodox sources and it seems like if catholics are the philopshers than the the orthodox are the mystics and think it's nice to see them get some influence. I hope it helps bring some balance.
Jonathan Pageau is quickly becoming a significant figure in the body of Christ. Shine on Jonathan.
And as Ruslan KD stated to the most important;
“which is JESUS”.
Thank you Ruslan KD for your honest expression.
I'm only afraid that people won't understand such profoundness. This was beautiful.
Have faith. It will meet people where they are at, somewhere in their heart 🕊️
I know from personal experience that when you get rid of the "stuff" you get rid of the problems in your life, and you also gain the power to say no to people because you're not ruled by material things.
Indeed. You are not enslaved anymore by your idols. Let the idols be smashed brother :-)
Mo money mo problems, rappers know 😂
Been rocking with Pageau for years now, since around the time Peterson did his Genesis Biblical lectures. He is sooooooooo good at breaking down a lot of what is going on in the world right now and bridging the gap between the religious and non-religious. Would be great if you got him on the channel one day 🙏
Go to church people!!!
Go to church and love one another!) that's the key
And Pray and Fast! ✝️☦️✝️
Even when I found God and began to go to church, I always felt that I was missing something. I visited different denominations, but never found what that missing thing was until I came across a video from Jonathan Pageau and I heard about Orthodoxy for the first time. After taking the time to look into it, I finally decided to attend a liturgy and found that missing thing in the Orthodox Church. The reverence , holiness, traditions. The ancient faith, PRE denominations. I am thankful to Jonathan for his videos, but all the Glory goes to God for leading me to where I am supposed to be! ☦️
Johnathan Pageau is a treasure and has been influential in my return to Christianity
Unconvincing
Consider islam, its actualy a much more logical and rational, and loving religion.
@@IaKhanic nothing I've heard a Muslim say about Islam has seemed logical
@@jedi77palmer What part of islam doesnt seem logical.
@@IaKhanic marrying a child
Love seeing Pageau get the recognition he deserves.
Pray for him! I have a feeling he’s stacking up treasure in heaven! He’s almost a modern day apostle, maybe even a prophet. Many people go to church because of him and his symbolic thinking and speaking opens our eyes to the truth of Orthodoxy! I’m not saying this lightly, I’ll be forever grateful for what he did for me, never met him but I love him! Hope to embrace him one day! Glory to God!
Jonathan pageau is a top 3 most important figures in my religious journey
Is there any videos by his that you recommend ?? I would love to watch more :0
Same here
Oh. I thought he was Wendigoon
I only have 1 and it's Jesus christ .
@@willjimenez9013
Not even St Paul, St Peter, or St John the Elder? What about the Gospels writers?
Jonathan is such a powerful speaker. This man just knows how to transmit information so casually like its not a big deal yet it's full of huge knowledge that haunts you when you think about it seriously.
Funny, because a lot of people see it as exact opposite: it's almost never knowledge. Just opinions, dressed up to be pseen as the big deal.
“Keep your eyes high” is such a good quote to leave on. If you keep your eyes high you will eventually realize that God is at the top. He’s subtlety evangelizing these folks and I love it.
Yes ! Col 3:2...and Matt6:9
When he brought home the point about safety not being the ultimate good I wanted to cheer.
So many people need to hear this message today.
It was so sad to see some of my Christian friends and family start to worship safety and control during Covid as the highest good. But then, on the other side people were exalting personal freedom in a similar way. Not an easy line to walk, putting "goods" in their proper place. I am glad I got to hear Jonathan touch on this in this video, I feel like I've been waiting for someone to say it for three years and now finally heard it expressed the right way. Thanks for sharing Ruslan.
Christians should read the “language of creation” by his brother Matthieu Pageau. Absolutely mind blowing!
It is truly mind blowing!
@lo5182 Those are Christians too :)
I believe Jonathan clearly stated in one of his videos that his brother isn’t orthodox. Unless that’s changed fairly recently, I don’t know.
this is true@@Amyshoe75
@Amyshoe75 he definitely isn't orthodox. He said it recently on twitter. He is Christian though he also said that.
Thank you so much for highlighting this part of Jordan Peterson's Event. I had never thought of values/virtues as being in a hierarchy (dancing together) with a supreme orienting "good" sitting at their apex. I can feel a rabbit hole..
I was an atheist for the last 20 yrs. Over the last yr I've come to realize that my atheism was based on just as much faith as when I was a Protestant Christian. Both are stories that I decided to believe are true at some point. I nolonger know what is true. All I know is that everything gets distilled down to faith. Nomatter what I believe, it's because I'm placing faith in my capacity for logic, reason, & understanding. The cruel irony that it took me 20 yrs as an atheist to come back to faith as the source of my belief.
Same brother. Atheism is also faith based. It robs you of divine purpose.
So faith at the end is proven and so are patterns therefore God is real and not just any God but the one from the Bible. Thank God for scientists as the After Death film brings to light the proof of Jesus ❤🎉❤🎉
There's a God shaped hole in every heart. One thing I realized was that if you don't put something there that is worthy, then you are vulnerable. You're vulnerable to anything that you try to fill that void with, and if something or someone else can control it then they control you.
Man - I'm so glad you went to this conference. Man, you are doing some great work. Keep it up!!
What a SPEECH!!!!!!!! yeah man Jonathon says it this way, during Covid i said it this way - God did not give me a spirit of fear. So, I cannot agree to sacrifice these things i am being asked to sacrifice in the name of public safety, because gods will, will be done.
"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." - Matthew 4:4
So well said !!! What an amazing speech 🤍🤍
Love Pageau. His was the first ARC speech I listened to on youtube.
Oh man. I'm going to have to listen to that one or two or three times and take notes. That was amazing.
And I would say an answer to prayer as well. I've been asking God to give me eyes that see and ears that hear and to truly understand how creation reveals him inexcusably as Romans 1 says. And then this just drops in my path.
Finally getting some recognition. God bless my Orthodox brothers and sisters.
Im glad youre finally getting to Jonathan. He cleared a lot of things up about christianity. I hope you reach out to him.
I told friends that the issue during covid is that safety had become the nation's idol around the first month in. Good to hear someone actually affirm the observation.
well not nation's idol, but state's idol.
government's and media idol to be most precise.
In the nation there was plenty of people who were not idolising it, especially religious folks whose number is not negligible.
So glad you highlighted this talk - it’s actually the first one I listened to from the ARC conference. Loved watching it impact you the same way it impacted me!
Much love to my Eastern Orthodox brothers and sister
@@DudeNamedDuncan your point?
A critique of “inclusivity”?
Why can’t a commenter connect wth others of their own ancient faith ?
Anyone’s allowed to reach out to whatever group or individuals they want to.
Deeply Moving!!! Blessed are you when your Supreme Good is GOD, The Before Time!!!
This reminds me of the book The Scarcity Brain. It mentioned how productivity and harmony are increased when resources are lower. Makes you wonder
I ended up in a life of playing a very short game. Get money at all costs, no time for anyone. What God ? Ended up in what I would call hell. Wife turned abusive, I ended up a dancing puppet as she played the long game. Kids suffering from toxic environment. You know, that old chestnut.
Found Jesus, "well he found me very scared and broken'. Had no relationship with God till months after, felt that odd. Now I make decisions that i do not expect any win from nor any recognition if at all this side of my grave. The highest good at all cost. The costs have been huge. I had a $1.5 million dollar house and now I rent. Pride stripped, shammed etc etc "Making her long game look pretty short now."
I am very healthy and spiritually happy for the first time in years.
Glory to God. (And not to me in anyway. Best I can be is a conduit for Gods Good)
Bob Dylan sang it in 1979! “It may be the devil or it may be the Lord, but you’re gonna have to serve somebody.” Great song. Great speech. Both great Christians evangelizing the secular world! Bless them both!
Slow Train Coming was Dylan's All-Time Best Album Ever.
In fact it IS THE. Best. Album. Ever. (Followed closely by Blood On the Tracks, of course.) And his salvation worked God's Will out in the lives of MILLIONS; who otherwise would never have given a second thought to the Truth of the Gospel. Surely God has used that man's voice to influence lives for His Purpose; since long before his conversion. 👍(BTW, Dylan's Saved album is also a Masterpiece.)
Loved this video and commentary Ruslan! I'm reminded of the Screwtape letters where it is mentioned that in order to corrupt spirituality all a believer has to do is simply place "a good" in the position of God (and he'll never fully attain either).
Great subject. Great editing. The pixilated face gag cracked me up.
Pageau is a smart fellow. Been listening to him for a while now.
I pray God uses you to bring light in these areas
I'm not a Christian (I used to be an atheist but in recent years felt increasingly drawn towards Buddhism and Taoism) but this man is fascinating.
Imo you're better off christian or bhuddist than almost anything else. So I won't complain. I know some bhuddists who seem pius(can you use that word to describe bhuddists?), faithful, hardworking, and virtuous. They love those around them and support their communities they're in. So I ain't got no beef.
He has a podcast “Symbolic World” definitely worth a follow and listen
Glad you are discovering Jonathan Pageau he is well worth listening to, along with his brother Matthieu Pageau 🙏
Dad Ruslan is so wholesome
Appreciate you highlighting this, and I think your commentary adds a lot to a complicated talk.
Safety CANNOT be the highest good. Whatever makes the thing you are keeping safe worth keeping safe must be a higher good than safety.
What he talks about- good things being in competition with each other. It reminds me of Aristotle's Doctrine of the Mean.
Whenever I heard Pageau speak about how architecture and decor can represent what we worship, I started to notice things at work. I noticed how the break room walls are completely covered with posters about safety and store profits. Everyone worships something indeed, but I’ve learned the hard way that all earthly things will disappoint you. Safety is good, but fear is unnecessary. If you believe in Christ and embody His honesty, faith, and charity, you will never be disappointed.
You should read "The Quest for Community" by Robert Nisbet. It explains a lot of modern social issues. It was written in the 50's and has become more true than I think the author could have ever realized.
Thank God for Jonathan, he's more on my level that Jordan at this point and so I'm very thankful for Peterson introducing him to us all through the attention he has been able to gather.
Glad you brought him to light. Been following him for a while now.
His brother’s book “the language of creation” is great, highly recommend it.
This is awesome! What an intellect.
I've often said, "if you cannot name the god you follow, then you are the god you follow."
Awesome broadcast. Thank you brother. Even my atheist friends like it. I pray they know truth of the Fathers love through the holy spirit and our Lord Jesus. ❤
Worship means to pay attention, among other things. Worship etymologically means worth (worthy) + ship (quality or state of). 'Worship no other God's before me' means he is most the most worthy. Worthy of our attention, worthy of our offerings/sacrifices worthy of our gratitude and love. Worthy of total submission and many more things that we have to offer.
I hope you all have a wonderful day. God bless
Jonathan significantly impacted my conversion to Easten Orthodox.
Welcome to London😊!! I hope you and your family had a wonderful time🎉!
Brilliant speech! Thank you for posting it! 🙏❤️🕊️
Something our pastor says often is that despair happens in our lives when a good thing that has become an ultimate thing is blocked or taken or fails us.
Only someone who cannot be blocked or taken, and he will NEVER fail us. That is the only answer to despair in this dark world. The answer is the Christ.
Thank you for sharing. That wording spoke to me.
This guys on another level, 👏🙌
God bless Jonathan and Jordan. I turned to Christ and the church because of them.
I'm so glad you went to this conference! I heard bout it back in Jan this year....rep for us all Ruslan. So so good.
Regarding “Stuff”: interesting. I recall Spock in the old Star Trek series saying he concluded that, Wanting was greater than having.
I believe That meaning is not a thought but a feeling, The feeling is Joy, This is what sits at the top for me!!
That's cool that they blessed you that way, Ruslan. Thanks for sharing.
Nehemiah 9:35 spoke of this. When times are good, values and gratitude fail. It's the same cycle as hard times create hard men, which create soft times which create soft men, which create hard times. It's cyclical
Orthodoxy is the one and true church. The only church that God created and promised to preserve until the end of times. Truth will always shine! Glory to God ❤
This was an amazing and thought provoking talk. I hope everyone could hear this.
Not an OrthoBro, but I have a very deep appreciation for Jonathan. Truly a Brother in Christ.
Come and See, Ruslan!
Thank you for sharing this portion of ARC...SO important. This was so important. Love is the Ultimate Good, God Is Love.
Jonathan Pageau is top tier.
I just saw a video he made explaining Orthodoxy 😊 interesting man
(I just got to the part in the intro where you said he was Canadian. Awesome! Canada represent, we need all of the good representation we can get)
You mean Jordan Peterson? Yes, he is Canadian and I'd vote for him if he ever ran to be PM.
@@annieholbis2430Think he means Jonathan Pageau.
Very smart gentleman and the show is Class altogether.❤
One of my favorite speakers! He is able to move through multiple concepts and principles.
God is revealing himself
Thank you for bringing the conference to those that weren't there brother
That poverty statistic is incredible. I know many concerned about bringing children into this world because they see it as utterly broken. They don't know how much brighter the future's set to be. But it's ours to lose.
The only reason I clicked on this video was for Jordan Peterson. And even though there was no Jordan Peterson, I'm glad I did. Thanks for sharing- I ain't even mad
I watched ARC twice. ❤❤❤ I cried when he spoke.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them
Let’s put quotation marks around that, and the Biblical reference: 1 Thessalonians 5:3
Your closing words are right on target🎯, Ruslan🕊️❤️🙏
Just Brillant!!
Thank you so much Jonathan Pageaue.
Never ever I face up my northern Star in those terms!
Brutal !
Excelent Ruslan KD.
✨✝️✨🙏🏻
Greetings from 🇵🇪.
The lust for power is what will be our downfall.
The supreme and ineffable good cannot be replaced by idols. Know what is the pinnacle to always be sought which is the light and the truth.
Jonathan Pageau has probably been the most important person to my conversion
Ruslan, so happy you war in London. we are praying for the konferenz. and we will pray continually for this community building…
Johnatan is genius and Jesus Loving man!
Jonathan is one reason why I'm proud to be french canadians, we still in the ggame 💪
Think it was Bishop Robert Barron that said this. Jesus or Christianity, in general, is the only religion in the world asking people to love Jesus more than anything, including your spouse and children.
Duh what other religion thinks Jesus is G-D.
Jonathan pageau is awesome
Wow, oh wow! Excellent!
The old truths are comming back. The eternal war keeps on going.
Two books come to mind as I listen to Jonathan: "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. "Simulations of God" by John C. Lilly.
It’s a start. Here is something for those who are ready, Correct Your Status And Standing, and neutralize the Fictional powers of oppression.
So you guys are catching up , peace be with you.
I am so glad you've decided to cover what Johnathan has to say. I look forward to what you might cover next.
I will be sharing this. Thanks for posting it!
I've never lived in the states so english is my 2nd language but I know I wasn't the only one who paused to look up the word Ineffable 😂
The Exodus series was fantastic.