@@PhillipSkraba Free tip from a fellow Skoda driver: put you cars cruise control on 30 km/h with lane assist on. It will steer by itself amd brake when it needs to. Works on dirt roads as well. Does the auto steering and stopping much better than the Mini 4. That way you can focus on more important stuff like flying the drone manually and capturing the epic King of the Skies shots 😉
There is a setting that you can change that will allow the drone to go below 2m while using activetrack. The default for this setting tells the drone to stay above 2m. DCRainmaker mentioned this on his review I think.
That’s correct, yes, but only in person mode, that’s how I think Peter L got such sweet, but very slow footage of a motorbike in a parking garage, human tracking.
@@PhillipSkraba the AIR 3 is no option for me (take the drones on mountains, Skitouren) and staying with the Mini 3 Pro until the end also not really :D ... I have got my Mini 3 Pro back from DJICare and I can sell the original packed drone quite well, so I will do that and hope for a solution (maybe a option to upload your drone licence in to your DJI Profil) or an hack which will come for sure with that drone :-( I want only fly legal 120m over ground at the mountains. that's all
4:31 What you do though mate is alter the FPS in editing. They don’t shoot chase scenes at the real speed. Watch how they filmed the Aston Martin in James Bond. It’s a good example
In this video background motion is jumping so much. Looks like video file was 25 fps and extracted on 30 fps. Every second missing some frames and jumping
Mine are 1.8yrs and 5 yrs, little devils they are! It's like I have to clean the car once a week or it looks like a 1983 Toyota, destruction derby edition.
Patents. Or the Chinese version of them. Its why DJI doesn't stop recording automatically on landing (Autel has the patent) Now that Skydio dropped out of the consumer space, there is more likelihood we will see it in DJI development.
Yes!! We are each provided with a special, secret location by DJI in our countries, this is the only place we're allowed to do our tracking videos. This was mine, I guess I got the hardest one, but it did a cool job!
Yes, I agree, I think it works great, and is a superb upgrade from the Mini 3 Pro. The situations I put it in here are really worst case scenario, and it's hard for it not to have problems here, but generally when you give it some space it does a really good job.
Two criticisms of your comments about tracking: while you have to drive slowly, you can speed it up and post processing. And two: drone tracking shots are only going to be a few seconds long, they’re not gonna extend for 15 to 20 or 30 seconds. So you can get a great shot looking down on your car moving and maybe only show a four5 second clip before transitioning to another clip.
Well, you can speed it up, but then any jerky movement will be much more visible, and any other movements in the frame, such as trees, cars, anything basically will look very unnatural. Yes, I usually keep my car shots quite dynamic, but there are moment where I want them to be a little longer, in that case I'll manually fly it to avoid any faults made by the tracking.
@@PhillipSkrabano, their correct. You decrease the fps while recording to help smooth out any jerkiness, then you increase the FPS in post. That’s how professional car chases are shot and they obviously have very expensive equipment. Sure they’ll be some outliers but the Bond movie where he’s in the Aston Martin on the Ice is a perfect example. Watch a video about that and it’ll show you what I mean. Also you need to adjust the upper and lower limits of the active tracking while using subject recognition…no shade mate. Try it though and maybe show us what results you get?
@@joachimlarsen2k Thanks. I do some work (freelance) using novel techniques to get shots (photo and video) that are otherwise almost impossible to achieve using equipment not available to your average person. Let me know if you want to hear about about my best (so far) photo of the Moon using an iPhone and the stock app. Maybe I’m just cocky but I was pretty impressed with myself 😂
I am trying to get my mini 4 to track my big orange, very slow-moving Kubota tractor. I want to get it working now so I can have it track and shoot video while I plow snow here on this NH mountain. I have played around with it some and have Not had much luck making it work. I am quite new to flying drones but do have some experience. Should the active track work for me? I have it set to 'vehicle' ...but I'm not getting the "one circle' in the RC lower left... I recently updated to the latest mini 4 firmware...
If youve got to be manually adjusting it..i fail to see the benifit of active tracking at this level...you have to walk holding the controller in case it twats a branch..or ride doing the same..or drive slow..you wont get the natural looking shots you want..manual control will kill it everytime...after years of seeing the arrival of active tracking im still to be convinced..new lens' , range and fly time are selling points.."active tracking" for me is not...🤙
Active track in vehicle mode isn't easy, the drone has to be 50m or closer, it moves up when I'd prefer it to be lower and due to that fact it could hit trees or electric wires. If it could be lower, if it could be faster, then things would be great, but most of the time if I want the job done I'll manual fly it in Sports Mode to get the shot I need.
Exactly..im still kicking about my mini 2 here and throw out a video now and again..all manual..in fact it was you saying learn manual that got me learning more.." its a tool!" use it !! Haha 🤙where the mini 3 and 4 pro leave the mini 2 behind are...better lens, night shots and resolution and fps for slomo etc..but ive never missed active tracking👍
You trying to out-rural me? If that's the moo-ve you did well - why'd I want to put "grasshopper" there? Too many questions! I think AT 360 is VERY interesting- but folks literally begging DJI to port it to Air 3/Mavic 3 Series should be careful what they wish for. I love it, but there are always trade-offs, some that we have yet to learn. If wider rollouts take time, that's allright, in my view.
I think it needs some updates to be super smooth, so that might take some time, but it's a fun idea that is a ton of fun. I would never out rural you. John.
Jaka jest różnica w oprogramowaniu i możliwościach przed i po aktualizacji w Polce(Czy dostępna opcja 120→500m po aktualizacji)? Jutro czekam na przesyłkę z mini 4 pro
For walking or running it works great. But it is almost useless for vehicles due regulations. I recorded many attempts and almost loose the Mini 4 Pro once. Spotlight + manual throttling works fine. But the real deal, Active Tracking, yeah, nah.
Because at DJI they think their costumers are very stupid and will crash their drone without obstacle-avoidance. for the first part they may be right. But because people now expect the sensors to be 100% flawless they crash their drones even more.
Great test. The MP4 will manage and probably will not crash but it reminds of Joe Biden leaving the stage after a speech. It just isnt sharp and perceptive enough to find the right route. Ah we go this way, oh oops the other way, I go up? No? Down and left? Oh right, thats it we go right and....lost it. Manual (sober) flying is the way to go and the 360 obstacle avoidance is an extra safety measure as long as your mot in sport mode
Did you have it in Normal or Nifty mode under Bypassing options? Dont know if the drunk active track that boosts the drones self-confidence let's you fly lower
It's always so funny to see DJI people struggling with active-track thinking it's the only way. And that is because for some mysterious reason at DJI they think it's a good idea to cripple their products by providing follow-me as well. Now don't get me wrong. Active-track is a great feature. I have nothing against it. But follow-me is much more user friendly and reliable, even if it means you won't have obstacle avoidance. And to prove it has zero to do with the price, my $135 drone does everything exactly right. I wish it had a better camera half as good as a DJI.
@@PhillipSkraba I don't mind if the video quality isn't perfect. I don't work for National Geographic. But if I can't fly a drone because it takes too long, or is unreliable, or too big, I won't have any footage at all. And that is the problem with DJI's active-track. On paper it looks great. In reality I'm not going to spend an hour on a 10 second shot. What I want is a drone I can throw in the air in seconds, take the the shot, and move on again. And not go through all the menus and draw lines on an impossible touchscreen and ride back every time the drone lost me.
Your distracted driving opening shot gave me anxiety! 😂 Great discussion on follow-me mode.
Lol, country road with no cows around, I was ok!
@@PhillipSkraba Free tip from a fellow Skoda driver: put you cars cruise control on 30 km/h with lane assist on. It will steer by itself amd brake when it needs to. Works on dirt roads as well. Does the auto steering and stopping much better than the Mini 4. That way you can focus on more important stuff like flying the drone manually and capturing the epic King of the Skies shots 😉
There is a setting that you can change that will allow the drone to go below 2m while using activetrack. The default for this setting tells the drone to stay above 2m. DCRainmaker mentioned this on his review I think.
That’s correct, yes, but only in person mode, that’s how I think Peter L got such sweet, but very slow footage of a motorbike in a parking garage, human tracking.
Do you keep the Mini 3 Pro? Because of the 120m problem - or hope for a solution or hack for the Mini 4 Pro? 😕
I will keep my Mini 3 Pro, but if that gets capped to 120m I will ask DJI for the Air 3.
@@PhillipSkraba the AIR 3 is no option for me (take the drones on mountains, Skitouren) and staying with the Mini 3 Pro until the end also not really :D ... I have got my Mini 3 Pro back from DJICare and I can sell the original packed drone quite well, so I will do that and hope for a solution (maybe a option to upload your drone licence in to your DJI Profil) or an hack which will come for sure with that drone :-(
I want only fly legal 120m over ground at the mountains. that's all
4:31 What you do though mate is alter the FPS in editing. They don’t shoot chase scenes at the real speed. Watch how they filmed the Aston Martin in James Bond. It’s a good example
In this video background motion is jumping so much. Looks like video file was 25 fps and extracted on 30 fps. Every second missing some frames and jumping
It’s always 25fps and 25fps, never differs.
Nice car. Was that a Kodiaq?
Yes, Kodiaq 2022 after the lift. It’s good for my two sweet but ratter messy kids in the back.
@@PhillipSkraba I know how it is, I got 2 little 7 years old devils myself 🙈.
Mine are 1.8yrs and 5 yrs, little devils they are! It's like I have to clean the car once a week or it looks like a 1983 Toyota, destruction derby edition.
great video!!
Glad you liked it!
I don't understand why DJI just doesn't do something similar like Skydio with following an sort of transmitter. Feel like that would solve everything.
I'm guessing that could be the next thing on the RC3, who knows!
Skydio also tracks optical. But it does look at the position of your phone when it loses you.
Patents. Or the Chinese version of them. Its why DJI doesn't stop recording automatically on landing (Autel has the patent) Now that Skydio dropped out of the consumer space, there is more likelihood we will see it in DJI development.
@@BlairAir $35 GPS drones have follow-me. But a Mini 4 Pro doesn't. Absolutely ridiculous. People who only had DJI are so oblivious.
You can do that with third-party apps on the Mini 2, the Mini SE 1 and I think the Mini 3 is in beta.
You literally have to find a secret secluded woodland spot just to use the 360 sensors as i see all reviewsers do 😂
Yes!! We are each provided with a special, secret location by DJI in our countries, this is the only place we're allowed to do our tracking videos. This was mine, I guess I got the hardest one, but it did a cool job!
Dji mini 4 pro works really well. And for the small size its excellent. Well not everything works, thats EU
Yes, I agree, I think it works great, and is a superb upgrade from the Mini 3 Pro. The situations I put it in here are really worst case scenario, and it's hard for it not to have problems here, but generally when you give it some space it does a really good job.
Turn off automatic subject detection / then track your car - and change settings in the 360 track menu to close and low 👌🏼
Still dog shite, no point upgrading... Does it follow from front, don't seem like it? I'll wait for the mini 7 pro
Yes, it follows from the front, without any problems, unless you're walking through an area like I was here.
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Thanks!
Please tell me if I am driving on a mountain road and the road goes up and down, will the drone automatically gain altitude or decrease altitude?
Now would it be the same with I differnt color car what about a brighter color like white or red
Two criticisms of your comments about tracking: while you have to drive slowly, you can speed it up and post processing. And two: drone tracking shots are only going to be a few seconds long, they’re not gonna extend for 15 to 20 or 30 seconds. So you can get a great shot looking down on your car moving and maybe only show a four5 second clip before transitioning to another clip.
Well, you can speed it up, but then any jerky movement will be much more visible, and any other movements in the frame, such as trees, cars, anything basically will look very unnatural. Yes, I usually keep my car shots quite dynamic, but there are moment where I want them to be a little longer, in that case I'll manually fly it to avoid any faults made by the tracking.
@@PhillipSkrabano, their correct. You decrease the fps while recording to help smooth out any jerkiness, then you increase the FPS in post. That’s how professional car chases are shot and they obviously have very expensive equipment. Sure they’ll be some outliers but the Bond movie where he’s in the Aston Martin on the Ice is a perfect example. Watch a video about that and it’ll show you what I mean. Also you need to adjust the upper and lower limits of the active tracking while using subject recognition…no shade mate. Try it though and maybe show us what results you get?
@@ClassicRikiWait… that’s actually genius! I never thought about using undercranking for that sort of situation 🤯
@@joachimlarsen2k Thanks. I do some work (freelance) using novel techniques to get shots (photo and video) that are otherwise almost impossible to achieve using equipment not available to your average person. Let me know if you want to hear about about my best (so far) photo of the Moon using an iPhone and the stock app. Maybe I’m just cocky but I was pretty impressed with myself 😂
Thanks for sharing, Next time disable the beeping for the sake of making the video watchable.
We can disable the beeping?!?!?
@@PhillipSkraba yep, mute the volume for the controller by swiping down from the top.
@mahchymk93 no way!!
I am trying to get my mini 4 to track my big orange, very slow-moving Kubota tractor. I want to get it working now so I can have it track and shoot video while I plow snow here on this NH mountain. I have played around with it some and have Not had much luck making it work. I am quite new to flying drones but do have some experience. Should the active track work for me? I have it set to 'vehicle' ...but I'm not getting the "one circle' in the RC lower left... I recently updated to the latest mini 4 firmware...
If youve got to be manually adjusting it..i fail to see the benifit of active tracking at this level...you have to walk holding the controller in case it twats a branch..or ride doing the same..or drive slow..you wont get the natural looking shots you want..manual control will kill it everytime...after years of seeing the arrival of active tracking im still to be convinced..new lens' , range and fly time are selling points.."active tracking" for me is not...🤙
Active track in vehicle mode isn't easy, the drone has to be 50m or closer, it moves up when I'd prefer it to be lower and due to that fact it could hit trees or electric wires. If it could be lower, if it could be faster, then things would be great, but most of the time if I want the job done I'll manual fly it in Sports Mode to get the shot I need.
Exactly..im still kicking about my mini 2 here and throw out a video now and again..all manual..in fact it was you saying learn manual that got me learning more.." its a tool!" use it !! Haha 🤙where the mini 3 and 4 pro leave the mini 2 behind are...better lens, night shots and resolution and fps for slomo etc..but ive never missed active tracking👍
@livingonthemoonhelps9407 it’s just a tool, damn right 🤘🏻
Great test! Thanks! I thnk you should only work a little bit on the running part ;)
Lol, I do need to run more, that’s true 👹
You trying to out-rural me? If that's the moo-ve you did well - why'd I want to put "grasshopper" there? Too many questions! I think AT 360 is VERY interesting- but folks literally begging DJI to port it to Air 3/Mavic 3 Series should be careful what they wish for. I love it, but there are always trade-offs, some that we have yet to learn. If wider rollouts take time, that's allright, in my view.
I think it needs some updates to be super smooth, so that might take some time, but it's a fun idea that is a ton of fun. I would never out rural you. John.
Better if they give second little pilot to active truck with GPS like in Skydio.
Im in the USA and mine does this as well
It’ll no doubt get better and better.
Jaka jest różnica w oprogramowaniu i możliwościach przed i po aktualizacji w Polce(Czy dostępna opcja 120→500m po aktualizacji)? Jutro czekam na przesyłkę z mini 4 pro
W Polsce mozesz juz zmienic z 120m do 500m, tak jak zrobilem w tym filmie - ua-cam.com/video/vkXMPIBo9uE/v-deo.htmlsi=Vd7Z3Quvad4wCc6f
go to the security menu Track 360 - there you will find the setting for limits in the 360 active track - it would be nice to see a new test 👌🏼
Nice review!, watch out with content from you driving without "seat-belt", not just the copyright stuff is important.
Thanks! Oh yeah, I’m the first person to put a seat belt on, feel naked without one, passenger or driver!
For walking or running it works great. But it is almost useless for vehicles due regulations. I recorded many attempts and almost loose the Mini 4 Pro once. Spotlight + manual throttling works fine. But the real deal, Active Tracking, yeah, nah.
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Thanks!
No follow the controller option in the year 2023, why?
How dare you DJI!
It would no doubt work a lot, lot better if we had that option.
Because at DJI they think their costumers are very stupid and will crash their drone without obstacle-avoidance. for the first part they may be right. But because people now expect the sensors to be 100% flawless they crash their drones even more.
I think they're spot on lol.
Great test. The MP4 will manage and probably will not crash but it reminds of Joe Biden leaving the stage after a speech. It just isnt sharp and perceptive enough to find the right route. Ah we go this way, oh oops the other way, I go up? No? Down and left? Oh right, thats it we go right and....lost it.
Manual (sober) flying is the way to go and the 360 obstacle avoidance is an extra safety measure as long as your mot in sport mode
I wish it was a little more sure of itself and allowed me to fly lower in vehicle mode, yes!
Did you have it in Normal or Nifty mode under Bypassing options? Dont know if the drunk active track that boosts the drones self-confidence let's you fly lower
I had it in normal mode, I tend not to trust nifty mode 😂
@@TomBoudewijns The MP4 is incredibly intelligent. It can track person man woman camera tv. Even win from Obama and keep us out of World War 2.
It is pretty rad isn't it.
Cannot finish watching this video while you are driving. Get a driver for safety.
Yeah, wish I had that option. I managed to survive, so did the trees 🤘🏻
Still way behind Skydio (rip) when it comes to following
No idea, never tried a Skydio drone.
F the EU and their BS regulations.
It's always so funny to see DJI people struggling with active-track thinking it's the only way. And that is because for some mysterious reason at DJI they think it's a good idea to cripple their products by providing follow-me as well.
Now don't get me wrong. Active-track is a great feature. I have nothing against it.
But follow-me is much more user friendly and reliable, even if it means you won't have obstacle avoidance. And to prove it has zero to do with the price, my $135 drone does everything exactly right. I wish it had a better camera half as good as a DJI.
Yeah, that's the problem, other companies have really crappy video quality.
@@PhillipSkraba I don't mind if the video quality isn't perfect. I don't work for National Geographic. But if I can't fly a drone because it takes too long, or is unreliable, or too big, I won't have any footage at all.
And that is the problem with DJI's active-track. On paper it looks great. In reality I'm not going to spend an hour on a 10 second shot. What I want is a drone I can throw in the air in seconds, take the the shot, and move on again. And not go through all the menus and draw lines on an impossible touchscreen and ride back every time the drone lost me.