Yeah, I thought it was odd the Erosion dungeon didn't drop the metals. Weapon cores, okay, a PITA and more grind, but once you max out a weapon there is nothing else to do to it. And weapons were weak, so I understand. Same as reactor implanting, also v. expensive, but also optional really. I need High Voltage (for range presumably), but I like my Electric Condense for speed, and mob zaps. And nuke. I also don't like fighting Defiler, the first and only time, was a TPK in his berserk phase.
Any improvement is welcome! Weapon cores materials are going to change! Meaning the farming is going to be easier for sure they are going to add the materials to other activities except 400 and the abyss boss and rise how much you get!
Discovered your channel a week or two ago. I've used your videos to get to grips with what Im supposed to be doing. Thank you. Keep up the awesome work.
it's a great one. Won't name other names (because I don't want to sound too negative), but there were 2 others that I'd heavily watch as well. One has more or less become a PoE2 streamer at this point (which is cool, no problem. Focus on what you like) and the other started focusing on content where you constantly have to open menu -> exit mission repeatedly and while probably very effective, I'd rather rub my face on a stovetop on high. At this point, probably the only content creator for TFD I keep up with (plus, he actually does the "teach a man to fish" method with things like reactors as opposed to just creating "this is good for now, I'll create a video later when this changes" content).
The most efficient way to farming void abyss metal fragments is not doing that until the devs fix the terrible acquisition rate, amount required, or both. screw doing 100 infiltration missions for one weapon core
Thank you, as someone with a day job, figuring out what the h*ll needs to be done to participate in the new mechanics is not straight forward and not properly explained in the game, this video is appreciated
Thank you for this. I’m one of those players that don’t do the really hard bosses, and I had never beaten the defiler until now. It took me 4min, and 1 death, but I can solo it after copying your build. So thank you 😊🙏🙏
I really wonder about the devs sometimes like ... If I have this void boss on farm ... what even is the point of this system then? What am I gonna shoot with this now even stronger weapon, I already breezed through everything and cleared it all, there is nothing left where I would need this. This system should have been unlocked through that new void dungeon, and then you use the increase in power to tackle the new boss.
This is only the beginning of the Endgame content they have starting giving out. Along with that we still have around 20ish more erosion stages they have not given us yet. You can use the new system to help in the harder void erosion coming in February and March + whatever else new bosses they can release in S3.
Exactly, we just murdered the super bosses without the Cores. What are we supposed to want them for? They should have released some content that made us go "Oh, shit. Guess I need to Amp up my weapons to take this on."
the answer is "the next season". Once i fully upgrade INES she is ready for the next seasonal content, thats it. My ulti bunny from the pre season was my main in the 1st season, same with the thundercage.
One word: valby! That's all you need, build crit on her and you get under a minute kills! Great video like always and agree with you: they will bend the knee lmao
6:02 Damn! The difference is insane! Gladly a maxed Ines is able to kill Defiler solo under a minute which can make this even more time efficient. Working on building her atm.
Weapon cores are a nice way to customise your weapons but they do need more options on where to get these materials or up the drop amounts. Thanks for the great bunny build..
Gotta say, I am not a fan of how many components it takes to get a core. At my rate of play it would take close to a year to get all the cores I want for my weapons. I don't think it should be handed to me but at least add more opportunities to get the shards that's more friendly to the average player in the community.
@@cezarpena2024 once you get a couple runs against defiler it becomes really easy, the secret is to just stay in the air as long as possible, defiler leaves a load of poison AOE that's the only thing that's dangerous about him, but with mid air manoeuvring and triple jumping you can more or less stay airbourne the entire fight and completely avoid his toxic gas
If you have at least one Yujin in the lobby, makes it way easier. You need at least two dps players though. With my Yujin I've farmed it to get the new skin. I got it for Yujin.
Thank you!!!! that part of the game was slowlly sucking away my will to play, but now i made to do it, but in 6-9 minutes (i guess im not as good as you). Also added hp collector, perfect antivenom instead of mp collector and hp amplification instead of battle of stamina
Considering that the weapon core upgrade stats are left completely up to RNG, the economy for this grind is outrageous. If the stats had a guaranteed window based on tier level and we got to choose from a pool of 3-4 of those stats (just like how we gamble away at the stat slot machine already) then I wouldn't mind it so much. Or even if we could combine 20 tier 1s into a tier 2, that would make more sense as well. As of now, Nexon took the weapon adjustment slot machine and made it an impossible to win roulette wheel, that requires years of your life and first born to play the game just once. The economy of the game is really outta whack right now. Void shards were the first big complaint. Nexon made certain missions solely dedicated to having void shards drop, increased their drop amount, and then eventually made them irrelevant by flooding the economy with them. I understand having one off materials and dedicated areas to farm those items, but the outright disappointing amount that you receive as a reward lately is the issue. It get that this is game of grind, but having to run one activity over 100xs just to get just one thing that you will eventually need hundreds if not thousand of later is absolutely ludicrous. Especially when what you're working towards is based under even more levels of RNG. This is bringing another elephant further into the center of the room, which is new maps and new missions. We need places to go farm this stuff that doesn't involve a Colossi battle or a "dungeon" that we've already done 100,000xs before. This game is really a typical Asian mobile game. Just look at the map next time that you open it up and expand it. TFD is no different than anything you could play on your phone circa 2010-2015.
i did 10 runs and it took me 45min. include loading in / out, dismantle, got a coffee, had a wipe etc and you need like 35 runs for 2000. so realistic is like 2.5h to 3h to get that 2000 and i need at least 4 of em asap. So 10 to 12 hours of grinding Defiler during the weekend xD
I'll probably upgrade my dog to final level before I get a 2nd premium protein. I got it only once in about 60 times doing the void ship... it's already a chore... I can probably close my eyes and do the void ship.
Something weird is happening. Using the same build as you, yesterday I got it down to 2 mins per kill, today cant go below 3:30, up to 4 mins. Did they buff the HP of the boss or smth?
Im honestly going to hold off. Its definitely a rough grind, so i know people are gonna make a stink about it and the Devs will likely do something to remedy the grind.
As a average player this is something that’s gonna takes months to do. Still haven’t gotten all weapons or Descendants. I’ll rather wait until it gets a bit easier to farm.
I feel they kinda of missed the mark here. By making it so that you neeed such a ridiculously large amount of shards just to be able to mod one weapon (not even mentioning re-slotting a weapon) and THEN go farm the new content, which by the way ONLY gives you orbs for weapons. They kind of made it so there is no point in a fast majority of players to not even bother with erosion purge more than the first one you get for free. Shards need to be dropped in the VE purge, others it's not really worth doing them.
The high level orbs, the highest being 7, drop on 18, 19, 20. I think 17 drops it too. I stopped at 18. I can just farm that for cores but this will be a tedious grind. Only going to do weapons I main
I think the correct answer here is: "Whichever Gun will help you the most." It depends on which Descendants you use the most, what their builds are, and, thus, which guns you use with them. And all of that can be different for every player. If you use Enduring Legacy a lot with a lot of Descendants, you can't go wrong with it. Although, one could also argue that Enduring Legacy is strong enough without Cores and it might be better to unlock Cores on a weapon that "needs" them to bring them up to Enduring Legacy's level so you have more weapon options at that level. I'm sure people, especially Content Creators, will try to to say, "Objectively THIS weapon is the one you should go for first," but in my opinion, it really comes down to you. It comes down to the Descendants and Weapons you use and what you believe. I know this, probably, wasn't the answer you were looking for, but I hope it helps nonetheless.
@ love your response and I didn’t even think about that. I feel rushed because I’m always falling behind, trying to keep up with this game. I have all the ultimate descendants fully built. I still only use bunny with thunder cage for the daily invasions and I use enduring legacy on my Freyna for bossing. That’s been my loop experience since the season started. Oh yeah, I use Valby and Viessa for solo bossing the new bosses. I honestly still don’t know what to pick.
I couldnt do it with ines, but with "spider bunny" can. Is not the 40s of ines, but i think 1m40s with spider bunny (2 cd hook) is enough at least. Also i get mostly around 55. Also only get 4 VII cores from erosion, idk if they nerfed or what
As much as I hate GRINDING as much as this game requires...I also realize that, if we have nothing to grind, this game is pretty much over. There is always the new stuff that comes out, but it's still frustrating that there really is no instant gratification in this game like I'm used to. So don't be in such a hurry to get through the game. I like the idea of weapon cores.
When I saw that it dropped from 400s, I was hoping it would drop in small quantities from all the elites in the mission, but nope, just 20 from the mission completion. What a great meme. EDIT: as someone else pointed out, there's currently little reason for weapon cores to even exist though, as skill power builds currently trivialize most bosses in solo play, and normal weapon builds are perfectly fine for clearing all the hard mode bosses with far less time investment.
What the devs thought about ? That i'll go to grind 2k for a core, i don't care, i'm playing for fun not to hate myself.Very bad move by the devs unless they changed it soon.
@@johnydildo4285 Do you think she would be strong against Gluttony?! I play Valby currently but if more people play Ines maybe I'll meet some of them and finally would be able to proceed further... that "cooling" mechanic to kill Gluttony is stupid, if the team is not coordinated it's probably impossible... and when I'm alone... I have to do too many things and I die...
Yeah, I'm thinking the same, though I can't even do anything because I'm stuck on Gluttony and if I can't beat it alone it'll probably never happen with random players. Also they should reward stronger players to help the weaker ones so we have a reason to stay and play at all. And also they should make something like a game+ mechanic, so we can run the campaign again. The first time I did the campaign I was more concentrated on not dying than listening to what is happening... also I didn't know the lore so I didn't knew what I was watching. Now I want to rerun the campaign but I don't know any easy way to do it in a chronological order... I know I can do individual missions but it's not the same.
This is going to become a problem! When I start thinking to make progress I need to upgrade my reactor and now my weapon, I must run abyss 5 or 10 times per day! The game stops being fun and become a chore!
Doing the same thing is extremely boring... I tried to tell the devs we should be able to rerun the campaign (something like a game+), so we don't do the same missions again and again... I just play less now, also I still can't beat Gluttony by myself so I get bored quickly, I just do a few missions on the void ship, try to beat Gluttony 1 or 2 times and exit the game.... though I would play if I could replay the campaign.... they should add stand alone lore missions or something... but nah, they just add more mindless grind. I can do the void ship with closed eyes already... how many times we should repeat that mission to get all the things we want... a 1000... 10 000... I already wait for everybody to come to the final boss on the void ship even when I'm lazy... which means no old players even play the void ship.
I hope they listen to the community on this. I’m not going to spend that much time farming for a small upgrade to dps. There is already buzz around how these live shooter looter games are dying.
It takes around 40 boss battles. Im doing this with bunny. It takes me 2min30 to 3 min. Im doing 10 battles per day and go do something else cause this is just boring.
I don't understand why I'm constantly taking random damage in this fight. I'm flying around in the air spidermanning and nothing being fired is even in the same galaxy as my Bunny but I'm just constant hearing the 'hit' sound effect and taking damage. I can kill him but I always lose a few lives along the way and it's really annoying. I thought at first I had to wait until he floods the area with that purple dust then destroy his generators for the little shield they seem to give you but that's not helping. I have perfect antivenom so I know I'm not poisoned either.
What is anger inducing is how ridiculously expensive precise ion exchange (and how long they take to bake)/dimension analyzers are. Like WTF.... THAT crap needs to change.
Content update good! The erosion need a rework ...reaching level 20 and then all other tiers are just unuseful ...we have 25 ultimates weapons and this 1 time activation so i think The waves could give us more void anomaly shards so this farm it is going to end sometime later..
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Not worth it. Didnt farm infernal walker and wont do this too.
I didn't know IW was a limited time event, (why would they vault content so early?). Now that I missed out on getting the set, the FOMO spell is broken. If it wasn't for the Core Mats these Abyss bosses could feck off for all I care.
You can still get all the Infernal Walker sets until the end of this season. You just have to farm Defiler to get the tickets instead. Let the FOMO commence, lol.
Best method for killing defiler is using ultimate Sharen ambush setup and hiding behind objects using her ambush and ultimate. I’ll take the cheese if it’s on the menu. 🧀
need 4min for the boss (bunny mobbing build), this will be a very hard grind. :(( I dont think i will do it for more than 1 or 2 weapons till they lower this.
Players may need more powerful weapons to take on newest high-level bosses and missions... Nexon proceeds to make said upgrades available only by grinding said bosses and missions? Not necessarily a logically sound argument for adding considerably more grind to an already grind-intensive game
I beat Defiler many times and I HATE the boss. I tried to run Infernal Walker Valby build but it was so ineffective. Defiler boss requires too much specialty and too much coordination. Not to mention, the reward is just too little for all the pain I had to get through. Dying is guaranteed at least once and I just don't feel any fun. For me, the boss needs a heavy nerf in some attacks and rewards need to be multiplied as well. If patch is not made, then I'll just hold on and go with Infernal Walker which was much easier.
The fact that they made it require 2000 of those proves they hate everyone and want the remaining 10% of the player base to quit, Unless this is changed I will be another one.
They made it tedious on purpose. They know community will hate this, so they will change it later on and will be praised for it. Typical Nexon tactics. They basicaly do this in every bigger update.
Lol, I'll wait until they make it easier. I'm not interested in running the same content over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over... Pass.
It is expensive, but there are only what 24 ultimate weapons in the game? And how many do you REALLY need core binders for? I have no problem with making it more accessible, but is it really necessary?
Depends who you ask, one mans grind is another mans breaking point. I don't mind it's current implementation but I do think we need some in Void Erosion Purge
Think the idea is to get players to craft multiples of ult weapons so you can have different setups. I agree they do need them in Erosion because that would make the most sense. They’re just looking for ways to keep 400% alive.
Done with ridiculous farming it's not fun,blew through the content with what I've got already....so what's the point of grinding for weapon enhancements ,everything is already dead....love the game but really pitiful use of the word content.
Totally not worth the grind unless you are unemployed.. also in season 3 they’ll add void erosion control lvl 10 so basically it’s useless upgrade your weapons now.. I can see why 95% of game playerbase have left
I'll just skip the content until they make it easier or never do it at all. I'm fine with farming, doing some dailies, easy dps check bosses not dark souls gameplay...
This update sucks. Not farming defined not doing 200 missions of 400% missions either. Ines behind void vessel was awful enough as that mode sucks horse nuts, now this? This game is doing everything it can to push me away.
No amount of rewards or systems are going to make up the difference for you if the game itself isn't fun to play. The grind is what? Playing? If it was walking on a treadmill and reciting the dictionary, yeah, I'd pass. But it's playing a beautiful video game, guys. Don't get so eager to optimize the fun out. If you don't like running around blowing stuff up and picking up rewards along the way, well, I mean.. Why are you wanting the rewards in the first place, then?
Honestly, the players of this game are going to be the ones killing it. If the game requires a ton of items, then it's "too much farming". If the game makes farming easy, then it's "I've done everything I can, there's nothing to do in the game!". Jesus Christ...just pick a poison already people.
I want to rerun the campaign in chronological order in some easy way (something like new game+ with all current gear, so I can see the story in a more peaceful manner)... not just repeating single missions. They should make something like a game+ or whatever so we can see the story again... I'm tired of doing the void ship for 100th time without a story or meaning... just to grind for Ines...
What are your thoughts on Weapon Cores, W or not great?
Yeah, I thought it was odd the Erosion dungeon didn't drop the metals.
Weapon cores, okay, a PITA and more grind, but once you max out a weapon
there is nothing else to do to it. And weapons were weak, so I understand.
Same as reactor implanting, also v. expensive, but also optional really.
I need High Voltage (for range presumably), but I like my Electric Condense for speed, and mob zaps. And nuke.
I also don't like fighting Defiler, the first and only time, was a TPK in his berserk phase.
Diz update is for higher rank n skin kinda look normal didn't motivate me to grind hard
Big W!
Too much grind for the reward
Any improvement is welcome! Weapon cores materials are going to change! Meaning the farming is going to be easier for sure they are going to add the materials to other activities except 400 and the abyss boss and rise how much you get!
2000 per weapon is ludicrous.
35 kills on abyss and invasion is 100+
Discovered your channel a week or two ago. I've used your videos to get to grips with what Im supposed to be doing. Thank you. Keep up the awesome work.
Welcome!
it's a great one. Won't name other names (because I don't want to sound too negative), but there were 2 others that I'd heavily watch as well. One has more or less become a PoE2 streamer at this point (which is cool, no problem. Focus on what you like) and the other started focusing on content where you constantly have to open menu -> exit mission repeatedly and while probably very effective, I'd rather rub my face on a stovetop on high. At this point, probably the only content creator for TFD I keep up with (plus, he actually does the "teach a man to fish" method with things like reactors as opposed to just creating "this is good for now, I'll create a video later when this changes" content).
The most efficient way to farming void abyss metal fragments is not doing that until the devs fix the terrible acquisition rate, amount required, or both. screw doing 100 infiltration missions for one weapon core
Yeah dev need to increase 400% infiltration to 40 or 50
20 is lol
It’s sooo painful
Defiled drops over 70 per run
@@thomasbruzzese6419 I've had yet seen that most I seen is 56
Thank you, as someone with a day job, figuring out what the h*ll needs to be done to participate in the new mechanics is not straight forward and not properly explained in the game, this video is appreciated
Thank you for this. I’m one of those players that don’t do the really hard bosses, and I had never beaten the defiler until now. It took me 4min, and 1 death, but I can solo it after copying your build.
So thank you 😊🙏🙏
Awesome!
I really wonder about the devs sometimes like ...
If I have this void boss on farm ... what even is the point of this system then?
What am I gonna shoot with this now even stronger weapon, I already breezed through everything and cleared it all, there is nothing left where I would need this.
This system should have been unlocked through that new void dungeon, and then you use the increase in power to tackle the new boss.
they always make it harder at the beginning,,, then they nerf it the next patch...
agreed. was not happy these don't drop in the new dungeon. thought that was the point
This is only the beginning of the Endgame content they have starting giving out. Along with that we still have around 20ish more erosion stages they have not given us yet. You can use the new system to help in the harder void erosion coming in February and March + whatever else new bosses they can release in S3.
Exactly, we just murdered the super bosses without the Cores.
What are we supposed to want them for? They should have released some content that made us go "Oh, shit. Guess I need to Amp up my weapons to take this on."
the answer is "the next season". Once i fully upgrade INES she is ready for the next seasonal content, thats it. My ulti bunny from the pre season was my main in the 1st season, same with the thundercage.
One word: valby! That's all you need, build crit on her and you get under a minute kills! Great video like always and agree with you: they will bend the knee lmao
true!
A fully maxed build ines can do the job too.
6:02 Damn! The difference is insane! Gladly a maxed Ines is able to kill Defiler solo under a minute which can make this even more time efficient. Working on building her atm.
Mine has 3 hrs to go. Otherwise, my best defiler is 1:33 with valby. There's another content creator that has a 48s Ines on defiler
Weapon cores are a nice way to customise your weapons but they do need more options on where to get these materials or up the drop amounts. Thanks for the great bunny build..
Gotta say, I am not a fan of how many components it takes to get a core. At my rate of play it would take close to a year to get all the cores I want for my weapons. I don't think it should be handed to me but at least add more opportunities to get the shards that's more friendly to the average player in the community.
Makes sense
I made a post today on discord asking them to boost the rates and add them as drops in Erosion
Great video so glad you broke this down for us thanks 🖤
Glad it was helpful!
@@theFullMeasure yes very 🖤
The weapons core are great, how to get them sucks😂. Thanks for the video.
I'll be alternating between full-crit Ines in 400% and Defiler High Voltage Bunny. Just to keep my sanity in check.
Sound strategy
@@cezarpena2024 once you get a couple runs against defiler it becomes really easy, the secret is to just stay in the air as long as possible, defiler leaves a load of poison AOE that's the only thing that's dangerous about him, but with mid air manoeuvring and triple jumping you can more or less stay airbourne the entire fight and completely avoid his toxic gas
They really should add it on the loot table for Void Erosion. Don't make no sense for it to not be there to be frank. Fkin Cheers!
100% agreed
Just discovered your channel today and subbed. Nice work, sir
Welcome aboard!
Gonna have to give solo defiler a go, tried a few pubs last night and we didn't defeat it once. Fracking chairs for the bunny build.
If you have at least one Yujin in the lobby, makes it way easier. You need at least two dps players though.
With my Yujin I've farmed it to get the new skin. I got it for Yujin.
Public lobby has become so bad it seems I would possibly be able to beat Gluttony alone that I'll ever do in a public party.
Defiler is the way to go.
2K for the binder is completely insane, but hey, the grind is the game with this one T^T
Thank you!!!! that part of the game was slowlly sucking away my will to play, but now i made to do it, but in 6-9 minutes (i guess im not as good as you). Also added hp collector, perfect antivenom instead of mp collector and hp amplification instead of battle of stamina
And now i just notice the reactor and external where wrong u.u
and now reduce it to 4 minutes
They are really going to have to tweak this economy, no one is going to farm these and avoid absolute burnout.
Thanks for this video!
Works very well mate, I owe you a beer ;)
Deal!
@@theFullMeasure 🍺
Think we r a bit far for a real beer, where r u from mate?
Considering that the weapon core upgrade stats are left completely up to RNG, the economy for this grind is outrageous. If the stats had a guaranteed window based on tier level and we got to choose from a pool of 3-4 of those stats (just like how we gamble away at the stat slot machine already) then I wouldn't mind it so much. Or even if we could combine 20 tier 1s into a tier 2, that would make more sense as well.
As of now, Nexon took the weapon adjustment slot machine and made it an impossible to win roulette wheel, that requires years of your life and first born to play the game just once.
The economy of the game is really outta whack right now. Void shards were the first big complaint. Nexon made certain missions solely dedicated to having void shards drop, increased their drop amount, and then eventually made them irrelevant by flooding the economy with them. I understand having one off materials and dedicated areas to farm those items, but the outright disappointing amount that you receive as a reward lately is the issue. It get that this is game of grind, but having to run one activity over 100xs just to get just one thing that you will eventually need hundreds if not thousand of later is absolutely ludicrous. Especially when what you're working towards is based under even more levels of RNG.
This is bringing another elephant further into the center of the room, which is new maps and new missions. We need places to go farm this stuff that doesn't involve a Colossi battle or a "dungeon" that we've already done 100,000xs before.
This game is really a typical Asian mobile game. Just look at the map next time that you open it up and expand it. TFD is no different than anything you could play on your phone circa 2010-2015.
Great video, thanks for posting now i know what i am in for. So the real ? , enduring legacy or piercing 1st?
EL baby!
i did 10 runs and it took me 45min. include loading in / out, dismantle, got a coffee, had a wipe etc and you need like 35 runs for 2000. so realistic is like 2.5h to 3h to get that 2000 and i need at least 4 of em asap. So 10 to 12 hours of grinding Defiler during the weekend xD
This giving me ptsd of levelling up my dog. 50+ plus on hard mode not once got premium protein blueprints. So yeah…
I'll probably upgrade my dog to final level before I get a 2nd premium protein. I got it only once in about 60 times doing the void ship... it's already a chore... I can probably close my eyes and do the void ship.
Why we cant salvadge augmentation core for get this ressource ?
We have to get 2000 per core unlocking for each weapon? That’s 100 runs for each 🤬
Something weird is happening. Using the same build as you, yesterday I got it down to 2 mins per kill, today cant go below 3:30, up to 4 mins. Did they buff the HP of the boss or smth?
Im honestly going to hold off. Its definitely a rough grind, so i know people are gonna make a stink about it and the Devs will likely do something to remedy the grind.
As a average player this is something that’s gonna takes months to do. Still haven’t gotten all weapons or Descendants. I’ll rather wait until it gets a bit easier to farm.
I feel they kinda of missed the mark here. By making it so that you neeed such a ridiculously large amount of shards just to be able to mod one weapon (not even mentioning re-slotting a weapon) and THEN go farm the new content, which by the way ONLY gives you orbs for weapons. They kind of made it so there is no point in a fast majority of players to not even bother with erosion purge more than the first one you get for free. Shards need to be dropped in the VE purge, others it's not really worth doing them.
The late level Void Purge have higher gun bonuses. You actually have to play them solo for most levels to get the higher weapon bonuses.
The high level orbs, the highest being 7, drop on 18, 19, 20. I think 17 drops it too. I stopped at 18. I can just farm that for cores but this will be a tedious grind. Only going to do weapons I main
2000 is a piss take, 200 would have been too many.
So what is the “correct weapon” we should choose for the new quest? Enduring legacy.?
I think the correct answer here is: "Whichever Gun will help you the most."
It depends on which Descendants you use the most, what their builds are, and, thus, which guns you use with them. And all of that can be different for every player. If you use Enduring Legacy a lot with a lot of Descendants, you can't go wrong with it. Although, one could also argue that Enduring Legacy is strong enough without Cores and it might be better to unlock Cores on a weapon that "needs" them to bring them up to Enduring Legacy's level so you have more weapon options at that level. I'm sure people, especially Content Creators, will try to to say, "Objectively THIS weapon is the one you should go for first," but in my opinion, it really comes down to you. It comes down to the Descendants and Weapons you use and what you believe. I know this, probably, wasn't the answer you were looking for, but I hope it helps nonetheless.
@ love your response and I didn’t even think about that. I feel rushed because I’m always falling behind, trying to keep up with this game. I have all the ultimate descendants fully built. I still only use bunny with thunder cage for the daily invasions and I use enduring legacy on my Freyna for bossing. That’s been my loop experience since the season started. Oh yeah, I use Valby and Viessa for solo bossing the new bosses. I honestly still don’t know what to pick.
I couldnt do it with ines, but with "spider bunny" can. Is not the 40s of ines, but i think 1m40s with spider bunny (2 cd hook) is enough at least. Also i get mostly around 55. Also only get 4 VII cores from erosion, idk if they nerfed or what
Hi mate, totally miffed about the legacey, it seems like they have nerfed it, ive noticed the fire rate dont speed up.
As much as I hate GRINDING as much as this game requires...I also realize that, if we have nothing to grind, this game is pretty much over. There is always the new stuff that comes out, but it's still frustrating that there really is no instant gratification in this game like I'm used to. So don't be in such a hurry to get through the game. I like the idea of weapon cores.
When I saw that it dropped from 400s, I was hoping it would drop in small quantities from all the elites in the mission, but nope, just 20 from the mission completion. What a great meme.
EDIT: as someone else pointed out, there's currently little reason for weapon cores to even exist though, as skill power builds currently trivialize most bosses in solo play, and normal weapon builds are perfectly fine for clearing all the hard mode bosses with far less time investment.
What the devs thought about ? That i'll go to grind 2k for a core, i don't care, i'm playing for fun not to hate myself.Very bad move by the devs unless they changed it soon.
Wouldn't Electric specialist be better than Skill power?
I can confirm that Ines is stronger than bunny and freyna together.
I have the same understanding
@@theFullMeasure and she benefits from other descendants, especially Freyna and valby, they help spread the electricity.
@@johnydildo4285 Do you think she would be strong against Gluttony?! I play Valby currently but if more people play Ines maybe I'll meet some of them and finally would be able to proceed further... that "cooling" mechanic to kill Gluttony is stupid, if the team is not coordinated it's probably impossible... and when I'm alone... I have to do too many things and I die...
@Slav4o911 tell you what, add me and i'll help you.
100 runs of 400% to unlock ONE weapon.
How about I skip and don't care at all :P
Yeah, I'm thinking the same, though I can't even do anything because I'm stuck on Gluttony and if I can't beat it alone it'll probably never happen with random players. Also they should reward stronger players to help the weaker ones so we have a reason to stay and play at all. And also they should make something like a game+ mechanic, so we can run the campaign again. The first time I did the campaign I was more concentrated on not dying than listening to what is happening... also I didn't know the lore so I didn't knew what I was watching. Now I want to rerun the campaign but I don't know any easy way to do it in a chronological order... I know I can do individual missions but it's not the same.
This is going to become a problem! When I start thinking to make progress I need to upgrade my reactor and now my weapon, I must run abyss 5 or 10 times per day! The game stops being fun and become a chore!
Jup, same thing with destiny.
Doing the same thing is extremely boring... I tried to tell the devs we should be able to rerun the campaign (something like a game+), so we don't do the same missions again and again... I just play less now, also I still can't beat Gluttony by myself so I get bored quickly, I just do a few missions on the void ship, try to beat Gluttony 1 or 2 times and exit the game.... though I would play if I could replay the campaign.... they should add stand alone lore missions or something... but nah, they just add more mindless grind. I can do the void ship with closed eyes already... how many times we should repeat that mission to get all the things we want... a 1000... 10 000... I already wait for everybody to come to the final boss on the void ship even when I'm lazy... which means no old players even play the void ship.
With ines u can do defiler in 1-2min. So its not that bad.
You can do in 30ish seconds with Ines.Took me around half an hour to farm for one core.
U already got the new gun omg and I haven't beat the defiler yet.
U Bunny can beat it
If you dont have Ines
I hope they listen to the community on this. I’m not going to spend that much time farming for a small upgrade to dps. There is already buzz around how these live shooter looter games are dying.
It takes around 40 boss battles. Im doing this with bunny. It takes me 2min30 to 3 min. Im doing 10 battles per day and go do something else cause this is just boring.
I'd have wished the 400% bosses dropped 10 each of the metal instead of 20 for the dungeon (so one could do the same thing we do for voucher farming)
u only need 1 core binder for a weapon? or 1 just to unlock 1 slot in a weapon?
1 per weapon mate 🤙
@@sir_smokalot2540 ty !!
I don't understand why I'm constantly taking random damage in this fight. I'm flying around in the air spidermanning and nothing being fired is even in the same galaxy as my Bunny but I'm just constant hearing the 'hit' sound effect and taking damage. I can kill him but I always lose a few lives along the way and it's really annoying. I thought at first I had to wait until he floods the area with that purple dust then destroy his generators for the little shield they seem to give you but that's not helping. I have perfect antivenom so I know I'm not poisoned either.
What is anger inducing is how ridiculously expensive precise ion exchange (and how long they take to bake)/dimension analyzers are. Like WTF.... THAT crap needs to change.
Use grapling hook mod reduce cooldown so u can graple in air infinite while kill abys defiler faster
quest? what quest?
Let’s be honest. We’re only doing this for the Enduring Legacy. Maybe also piercing light for Hailey. I refuse to engage in this timegate long term
funny enough that exactly the weapon I chose to do to lol
I will just try to do for EL, PL and SG, just this three after that I am done. That’s all the effort I am willing to put in.
I put it on Wave of Light first. Love that gun. Thunder Cage next, then probably EL.
Content update good!
The erosion need a rework ...reaching level 20 and then all other tiers are just unuseful
...we have 25 ultimates weapons and this 1 time activation so i think
The waves could give us more void anomaly shards so this farm it is going to end sometime later..
Not worth it. Didnt farm infernal walker and wont do this too.
Cause u trash kid go back to fortnite and build me a house
Skill issue
@@Rodriguez5450 how is not worth it a skill issue are you 12 lol
@@Rodriguez5450 not everyone have too much time in their hand like u
Yeah there's no lifers and us who have jobs and a life
Fuckin' Cheers. Thanks so much....
Now gotta build ines to just spam elim defiler with that 1 😂
It's delicious
at least they gave us 1 CORE for free from the quest, straight to the thundercage.
I got my free weapon core while I was drunk, and drunk me decided to put it on my shotgun smh drunk me is a dummy!
hahahaha I feel you
Finally Bunny is usefull
Hahahaha
I didn't know IW was a limited time event, (why would they vault content so early?).
Now that I missed out on getting the set, the FOMO spell is broken. If it wasn't for the Core Mats these Abyss bosses could feck off for all I care.
You can still get all the Infernal Walker sets until the end of this season. You just have to farm Defiler to get the tickets instead. Let the FOMO commence, lol.
@Leozoro Blursed knowledge. OK I'll get the Backpacks at least.
Best method for killing defiler is using ultimate Sharen ambush setup and hiding behind objects using her ambush and ultimate.
I’ll take the cheese if it’s on the menu. 🧀
need 4min for the boss (bunny mobbing build), this will be a very hard grind. :((
I dont think i will do it for more than 1 or 2 weapons till they lower this.
Players may need more powerful weapons to take on newest high-level bosses and missions... Nexon proceeds to make said upgrades available only by grinding said bosses and missions? Not necessarily a logically sound argument for adding considerably more grind to an already grind-intensive game
You must be a wizard, because i took the exact same bunny build and the defiler repeatedly wrecked me, I couldn't get him below 60%!
The trouble is that nexon are just like bungie with destiny, no respect for people' time
Or just make a Valby build with Peacemaker and u can run the boss every 1 min.
question do u need a full level up reactor for that build or no ?
So many fucking currencies to farm now.
shield ajax is good for teams
I beat Defiler many times and I HATE the boss. I tried to run Infernal Walker Valby build but it was so ineffective. Defiler boss requires too much specialty and too much coordination. Not to mention, the reward is just too little for all the pain I had to get through. Dying is guaranteed at least once and I just don't feel any fun.
For me, the boss needs a heavy nerf in some attacks and rewards need to be multiplied as well. If patch is not made, then I'll just hold on and go with Infernal Walker which was much easier.
The fact that they made it require 2000 of those proves they hate everyone and want the remaining 10% of the player base to quit, Unless this is changed I will be another one.
They made it tedious on purpose. They know community will hate this, so they will change it later on and will be praised for it. Typical Nexon tactics. They basicaly do this in every bigger update.
Seems to be the trend yeah
wow good way to kill a good game, I like this game but im not grinding hours to upgrade one weapon out of 30 weapons what a F#$King joke.
Lol, I'll wait until they make it easier. I'm not interested in running the same content over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over... Pass.
It is expensive, but there are only what 24 ultimate weapons in the game? And how many do you REALLY need core binders for? I have no problem with making it more accessible, but is it really necessary?
Depends who you ask, one mans grind is another mans breaking point. I don't mind it's current implementation but I do think we need some in Void Erosion Purge
Think the idea is to get players to craft multiples of ult weapons so you can have different setups. I agree they do need them in Erosion because that would make the most sense. They’re just looking for ways to keep 400% alive.
R.I.P casual players. Only hardcore players can get tons of those.
Done with ridiculous farming it's not fun,blew through the content with what I've got already....so what's the point of grinding for weapon enhancements ,everything is already dead....love the game but really pitiful use of the word content.
Sorry brother pass, see ya in season 3 ill pick up ines during that time, tired of the Ludacris material count needed.
Totally not worth the grind unless you are unemployed.. also in season 3 they’ll add void erosion control lvl 10 so basically it’s useless upgrade your weapons now.. I can see why 95% of game playerbase have left
One hundred 400% dungeons. Oof. I'll try the boss route. Tyty
Will preserve some sanity for sure
For me it's dungeons need go 100 of them I don't do bossing in this game 😂😂😂 last I killed Molten Fortress.😂😂😂Have now 545 😂😂😂 half of day
Don't have a reactor like that.
I'll just skip the content until they make it easier or never do it at all. I'm fine with farming, doing some dailies, easy dps check bosses not dark souls gameplay...
Rise difficulty too much will push players to leave game who not playing game for challenge
I just seen video by Sen Evades clearing defiler in 28s xD people should use ur farm with her :'o
I get it's endgame stuff but come on
This update sucks. Not farming defined not doing 200 missions of 400% missions either. Ines behind void vessel was awful enough as that mode sucks horse nuts, now this? This game is doing everything it can to push me away.
No amount of rewards or systems are going to make up the difference for you if the game itself isn't fun to play.
The grind is what? Playing?
If it was walking on a treadmill and reciting the dictionary, yeah, I'd pass.
But it's playing a beautiful video game, guys. Don't get so eager to optimize the fun out.
If you don't like running around blowing stuff up and picking up rewards along the way, well, I mean..
Why are you wanting the rewards in the first place, then?
I would be more mad, except you get 60 for killing defiler, and bunny absolutely slaps defiler, I'm killing him in like under 2 minutes with bunny
They always adjust. Relax....
I guess they did this bs to try and keep people playing 😂 .... Don't worry people will cry it will be changed
I think so too
Honestly, the players of this game are going to be the ones killing it.
If the game requires a ton of items, then it's "too much farming". If the game makes farming easy, then it's "I've done everything I can, there's nothing to do in the game!". Jesus Christ...just pick a poison already people.
I want to rerun the campaign in chronological order in some easy way (something like new game+ with all current gear, so I can see the story in a more peaceful manner)... not just repeating single missions. They should make something like a game+ or whatever so we can see the story again... I'm tired of doing the void ship for 100th time without a story or meaning... just to grind for Ines...