Hollow Ichigo: THE PSYCHO | BLEACH: Character Analysis
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The very highly requested Bleach Character analysis of Hollow Ichigo is here! In this video I try my best to explain why Hollow Ichigo behaves the way that he does. What exactly causes him to be so psychotic, and threatens Ichigo throughout the series. Also explaining the reason behind his interruptions during Ichigo’s battles against: Byakuya, Grimmjow and Ulquiorra.
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Hollow Ichigo was the only one in the series who didn't lie or keep information from him. He told ichigo that he was Zangetsu. Ultimately he wanted to protect ichigo as well. In the tensa Zangetsu form you see both spirits crying.
Hollow ichigo also wanted to fully control ichigo body..🙃
@@deziredelapenabarros1566 that's not true. He wanted ichigo to use his full power and quit being scared because it would get THEM killed. If he wouldn't man up Zangetsu would take over.
@@deziredelapenabarros1566 I think the other response is forgetting the bit where I think he Or Ywach TELL HIM THIS or something how "I wanted to prevent you from doing any of this knowing that I myself wouold later take your power but after watching through everything and you and zangetsu (white zangetsu/""hollow Ichigo") always showed me another way of thinking and after a while seeing how powerful you were with ME SUPRESSING ALL YOUR POWERS (that were from My Side of the power so hollow powers fused with shinigami powers- like a more reiatsu wave based sword slashes which I think is WHY his sword even becomes the opposite colour of White Zangetsu's who IS the real zangetsu.... like maybe the asauchi that he was GIVEN at beginning of story was literally Quincy Zangetsu who is perfect youth form of Ywach basically but maybe did something similar to how asauchi's are made from dead soul reaper or human spirits with powerful reiatsu and theres something weird about how Ichigo has TWO sword spirits and ONLY one LIKES using swords THOUGH I think QZangetsu eventually started liking his unique style of swordplay where hed basically be more trying to see if he can get the desired effect of bow technique with quincy skills and using that in bending the reiatsu along paths where the blade would be used to laugh off or throw the energy) but after how Ichigo wa that powerful with his suppression and how hed need to support because of not trusting White Zangetsu to do it cause I think some of the quincy ideology of Ywach had to Realise that he was a part of a Unique Unusual being that He WANTED to see OUTDO his Own Original body because of how he may not even be able to steal his powers with how theyre a weird mix that even beats aizen which only made sense deleting his powers with mugetsu IF its because his zanpaktou spirits were in a kind of crude fusion together in an attempt to better help maintain the spiritual effectiveness of the host because they were willing to sacrifice their seperate individual identities to become something capable of the best of both their unique and very different combat tactics strategy use of reiatsu ane so on... I still think white zangetsu when the hollow isnt beating the quincy for conflict in a different fight so that then some crazy transformation and cero coloured getsuga's which lack the blacker reiatsu which would only have the red more visible when it was just the hollow side in control and not getting input or direction from Quincy Zangetsu who I dont believe "ISN'T Reeeallllly Zangetsu" just because his physical form is essentially young Ywach with a bit more openmindedness and curiosity and fascination like he doesnt think hes the grandest most powerful being so he can just take over everything and end White, because MAYBE NEITHER can live if the other doesnt which would negate the idea of ichigo losing all his quincy potential and Ywach based reiatsu that was a big part of his reiatsu and now its JUST all getsugas that look Only like Ceros from thereon out.... It is interesting that his zanpaktou spirits ARE essentially IMPROVED versions of the beings that Ended his Mother's life, which though White isnt properly killed and doesnt absorb Ichigo but instead he his a Servant to Ichigo like a Horse riding him the best way possible when hes trying to do dumb shit and nearly dies and hollow powers temporarily take over so he can get Regeneration and all the rest cause White Zangetsu would Rather NOT die, and Maybe both Zangetsus are excited about Actually Defeating Ywach using the knowledge techniques, wisdom and talents along with shared spirit energy from the most powerful shinigami in the eastern sereitei so theyd combat godly quincy whose taken all the quincy and soul reaper powers and the soul king powers and so on and ONLY aizen atoning for his past evil to help Ichigo REALLY comes in clutch.... and but besides that part I think the complexity of Zangetsu is that I see him as a Zanpaktou spirit that due to the nature of the inherent powers, chose to manifest as two different entities, one which is Ichigo Turning into White and the other is basically Ichigo if he was Zangetsus grandchild kind of and thats why you have two VERY differently themed Zangetsu characters and its mystery and uncertainty which i love that he didnt give all his thoughts and now were finally gona get the ending animated but MAYBE Kubo is allowed to ADD Everything that WASNT ALLOWED IN because of a forced cutoff date and so on which generally changes how the mangaka can tell their story IF it even IS THEIR STORY AS the Mangaka WOULD write it but now im ramblin.. checking my bleach games cause why give us a really good game when they maybe nearly accomplshed this several consoles back...hehehe but its all potential thatd be great if they dont try to make everything into overpriced DLC for a mobile game which is how gacha games work generally... but actually finishing the continuity of the development of the characters cant be impossible to earn within time frames appropriate for f2p players.... and def there at that point where its pissed you Only spent 20 dollars whenthere was a crazy sale and you had more money without world shutdown.... worlds always a mess though but this is next level bullshit now.. the so called real world as it stands today falling apart as theyd planned biiiiiig thumbs down on all that.... : /
Kinda true. Even though he said he'd take over, he'd only do that if Ichigo wasn't strong enough when he needed to be.
@@DrJackShelton also Jesus Christ man. I don't quite like how the story turned out with the whole "i was suppressing your powers thing and him not being able to summon his original(true to me) Zanpakutou and got those twin swords (don't like the design and how it's said to be stronger than Dangai(which is supposedly the true fusion between a Soul reaper and his Zanpakutou in order to achieve godhood or something similar). I mean, to me a lot of this doesn't make sense.
One thing I love is how willing Zangetsu was to playing the internal villain. We literally see him play as the 'internal interloper' when the Old Man first called him out. He was violent, crude, and was an all around brutal teacher who laughed maniacally. But when Ichigo was gone? Dude was chill as all hell, and even seemed to be thankful to the Old Man when that guy literally stole his name and place. Zangetsu seemed to even get along with the old man, and further played the villain role when Byakuya asked him for his name, and he replied "I have no name." The foreshadowing has always been there even down to the design, Tensa Zangetsu's chain on the end of the hilt is literally a broken chain, the VERY thing that signifies a soul is turning into a Hollow. Man literally planned this shit from the start.
This is why it always bugs me when people say that Bleach was meant to end at the Soul Society arc or that it should have ended there. No Kubo had so much planned from the very beginning and everything was intentional in his designs even the name of the series is meaningful.
Zangetsu tenshou in a bonkia while spinning Zangetsu from the chain wold be cool!?!
All this makes you sad for shiro (what I like to call hollow Ichigo), the man just wanted the love and affection that all zanpakto desire but his master wouldn't listen. He ended up being the bigger man and "said I'll help and support you even if you don't want it because I care for you". Kubo got me tearing up.
@@jarrettcohens5305 yes, everyone loves to compare him to kurama ( nine tails) saying he felt change when he saw naruto grow and decided to help him and they just don't get that white is very different compared to him.
we need bleach remastered a la full metal alchemist brotherhood.
When you think about it he's basically an older brother who purposely irritates their younger sibling to teach them lessons in life. In this case he's teaching Ichigo how to properly defend himself and use his weapon.
They are the same age. He learned with Ichigo
@@jermainekngdom3154 than their twins
@@maximusfattus4363 sorta yes
AshXXMayftw yeah except ichigo is to stubborn to actually learn
@@maximusfattus4363 no, Hollow Ichigo is Zangetsu
Ichigo what's the difference between a KING and a HORSE.......INSTINCT.
@Sonic The Artist i knew there would be an idiot....He specifically stated that, " i am not asking a general answer like one is an animal and one is a human." "Form, ability and power if they are equal then why is it that one becomes a king and becomes an ANIMAL and carries the King. Its Instinct."
"But if the king has instinct, but the horse has instinct, then what does the...aww man I worked through this whole thing a hour ago"
-bleach s
Badass quote...
Well said and agreed 💯%
@@heyllo1337 probably that the horse instinctively knows that it has to obey
Lastly its really funny, Hollow Ichigo is the power that Ichigo needs to protect people so they dont end up like his mother, dead. His quincy powers which suppressed his powers almost got him killed which is mirrored by the ffact that it was the King of all QUINCY that got her killed by what? Suppressing her damn powers.
I personally love all of these Parallels that you can draw from the series!
@@DBZimran I have a newfound appreciation with Bleach honestly! While I'm watching/reading Jujutsu Kaisen and seeing Sukuna he reminds me so much of Hollow Ichigo I cry a little bc I miss that "psycho"
@@queenb2450 People don't know that jujutsu Kaisen is Inspired from bleach they all can only think About Naruto similarities lmao
@@aarizabdullah1454 domain expansion I kinda like the new bankai
Chapter 66: THE BLADE AND ME
Chapter 542: THE BLADE IS ME
I always loved Chapter 66/Volume 8's title, so when I first read the chapter title of 542, it gave me goosebumps. Bleach has the most interesting chapter titles in any manga in my opinion.
That sounds interesting. I never really payed attention to the chapter titles like that so that's cool
AOT slightly edges it out if you have been keeping up with that - Bleach's unique poems are a big selling point for the volumes for me tho.
Kubo was really good at those poems and the imagery he could build/allude to. It's kind of a shame Bleach took such a typical shonen route because all the possible lore, world building, and mood/tone setting that I always felt was just barely there could've been expanded and add a lot to the series if he had been able to. His art style also suited this really really well
@@mischifer1 No bro, it didnt took typical shonen root at all,
Bleach neither has a great mentor for ichigo nor does it uses a mentor's death as motivation for ichigo, ichigo doesnt have rival,
Bleach characters get way less emotional, The backstories also arent much dark and are realistic, it doesnt give each and every character backstory
It doesnt use themes such as hardwork and contradict it like naruto, Naruto repeates itself actually it used villains that want to bring peace three times
Chapter 684: THE BLADE
Also Kubo really had us fooled. From the moment Hollow Ichigo said he is Zangetsu....no one really believed him despite all the shit he was doing MADE IT VERY CLEAR who he was and should have made us question who the hell was the other guy that didnt explicity claim he was Zangetsu. We just saw Hollow Ichigo as what Soul Reapers see Hollows...a mere Hollow that is housed in Ichigo.
It becomes when you realize that in their first two fights, hollow ichigo clearly could have defeated ichigo and taken full control with no fear of being surpressed. But having that reveal recontextualizes these fights as him teaching ichigo a lesson that will carry him on through every fight he willhave.
It was one of Kubo's best plot twists!
I always found Zangetsu suspicious since he only took over when Ichigo was losing. I never believed Zangetsu was telling the truth until the reveal. There was foreshadowing all over the story and we never figured it out until the reveal.
I think what really doesn’t help is the anime only filler zanpaktou arc. We see everyone lose their zanpaktou spirits and the one Ichigo loses is the old man. Even with the bankai doll it was old man Zangetsu that manifested too. It’s really only when you take a step back and look at all of their encounters that you realize hollow Zangetsu always beat on Ichigo easily in their fights but never actually outright beat him. Hollow Zangetsu always took the fights at his own pace, talking during the fights and questioning Ichigo about the things he is struggling with. Ichigo even admits that he learns all of his technique by copying HZangetsu. Someone else even pointed out that the broken chain of his bankai is the same as a hollow’s broken chain like when he was in the shattered shaft. It’s a real shame Kubo didn’t get to finish it like he wanted, if he did maybe then we could have seen him really use his full powers with a mix of his Quincy side as well.
A theory I have is that Old Man Zangetsu modified Mugetsu to act similar to Letz Still to use up all of Ichigo’s power. Isshin claims to know the cost of the technique yet he’s never able to use it since he failed to learn it in the first place. My theory is that for Isshin it would have severely depleted his power to make him no better than a plus soul while his power would have to recuperate over decades/centuries which would leave him in a weakened state and probably cut off from his zanpaktou like Ichigo was, and if engetsu is similar to Zangetsu then he wouldn’t have wanted Isshin in such a vulnerable state.
But, Ichigo differs from Isshin in the fact that he had a Quincy spirit who had no problem modifying Ichigo’s power as it saw fit. When the truth comes out we find out that QZangetsu was able to suppress Ichigo’s power from the very beginning. His sword has been nothing but a reishi weapon like any other Quincy. Is it really so far fetched to think he could have turn a technique into a Letz Still?
@Star Beard same I trust him from the beginning story.
@@SoaringxDragon I might be wrong, but muramasa was manipulating other zanpaktos trough their negative emotions or something.
But how much can you really do, if zanpakto already lives with those almost at core of his being - as partly hollow?
So glad they changed the colour of his teeth in the second encounter.
Honestly never noticed until you pointed it out. I didn’t really mind the black teeth tbh ahahah
@@cappxd.6126 As a kid those teeth always looked like lips to me and it really weirded me out.
Same. The black teeth kept making think he had black lips.
Maybe he didn't brush his teeth?
I didn't really mind that
What irked me was that ichigo never spun the sword with his cloth after that first fight. He didn't pick up any moves
Honestly! The way the hollow version fights is the way I expected Ichigo to fight but instead he fights like a samurai and not a shinigami
Yeah, that's like the one complaint I have about Ichigo, he doesn't usually fight unpredictably/by instinct nor does usually he use every trick up his sleeve, Ichigo just limits himself to his sword's blade, not using his hands, legs, feet, or even using the handle of his sword. Not much anyway.
Only one time ichigo spun zangetsu was when he rescued rukia
@@Devilyami22 yeah. He did it one time. And just to show off. He never once used it in a fight.
@@danielcontos5541 That was my issue with it too. Ichigos fighting style never really felt like it evolved beyond a one off use. He spun the cloth once and did a point blank getsuga once. He didn't really learn any new moves so he was kind of the most boring one fight wise of the big 3. Naruto taking rasengan to insane heights and Luffy always being a surprise during his final bouts.
The thing I loved about this sub plot is, every time Hollow Zangetsu meets Ichigo, he always treats him with respect, calling him his name: "Ichigo", or "Your Majesty", or simply "Partner". Though he acts the villain, he never actually disrespects Ichigo when talking to him. It's a nice, subtle touch. Also, when training to control his Hollowfication, it's shown through the immense difference between the power of their respective uses of Getsuga, that if Hollow Zangetsu was really adamant about beating Ichigo and taking over his body, he could have. Easily. Yet what does he do? Takes "breaks" between the action and talks with Ichigo, giving his wielder time to let the "lesson" sink in.
Though everyone gives Kubo shit for writing a "weak story", the Ichigo and Quincy/Hollow Zangetsu sub plot blows just about everything else out there out of the fucking water. It's a sub plot that was given proper time to develop, done in a natural way with literary subterfuge, and a twist at the end that makes you go back and look for the foreshadowing, only to kick yourself for not noticing it sooner.
I completely agree
When tensa zangetsu started crying when he taught ichigo the final getsuga really showed how much he cares for ichigo (despite being a hollow)
Ichigo: " Who...who are you?"
H.Ichigo: " Didnt I already told you? I AM ZANGETSU!"
I always was curious as to why a darker side of Ichigo was so persistent to be his weapon. I realized it was the case that his darker side is a part him but Ichigo never wanted it. Similar how Naruto was to the Kurama but the fox had no interest to have Naruto be strong, rather he wanted freedom and leave Naruto to dust. Kurama only came out when Naruto is truly enraged over a friend, near-death or etc. I thought the comparison would be solid and as to why H.Ichigo is better "demon inside Protag" character than the Nine Tail Fox.
That's a great observation! Kicking myself for not including it now.
I agree with you white ( the hollow and Soul reaper powers ) just like qungastsu ( the Quincy power) truly dose care for Ichigo he show’s tuff love but try’s to pass it off as he only cares for himself but he does care for him this is a great contrast to early nine tails and Naruto where the nine tails didn’t care about Naruto and only save his life because of if he dies then he dose as well and if am not mistaken try to get Naruto to remove the seal
I wouldn’t say better, just different. It was executed differently, and that doesn’t necessarily mean that either one was better or worse.
Its completely 2 different dynamic. Kurama was a reflection of naruto and vice versa. Kurama was born because the rikudo sage wanted to save humanity from the juubi revival. Kurama wasn’t evil at first but with time the world came to fear him as the incarnation of destruction thanks to people like madara and the masked man. A role he came to accept and so kurama became an evil fox demon who wanted to turn the world to ashes. Naruto was also born out of good intention and to save konoha and the shinobi world but of course out of fear, he was called the demon fox. Throughout the manga . There were subtle hints of kurama changing little by little helping naruto. In early shippuden he warns sasuke not to kill naruto or he would live to regret it. The theme of naruto and kurama is that of SELF IDENTITY rather than self preservation.
ninshu6paths I completely I agree. Naruto’s relationship with Kurama and Ichigo’s with W Ichigo aren’t that easy to compare. At face value, someone can assume that they are just “the inner demon” character type, but if you dig deeper, it is clear that their purposes in their respective stories are very different. You’re summary of Kurama seems pretty accurate to me.
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His channel has a hollow channel too so he gud XD
Same
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I wouldn't call him the psycho. I would call him The Protector. Every time something really bad happens to ichigo he is always there to save him or revive him etc. Ichigo misunderstood him and what he meant all the time until he found out the truth in the tybw arc. My theory when it fighting ulquiorra and says i will protect you, it is him saying he will protect ichigo and not inoue.
The psycho just felt more click baity. But indeed he is the protector!
@@DBZimran true. Lol
It shows that Tite Kubo actually planned out his story, because the set up for Ichigo's true heritage was subtly set up a whole two arcs before it payed off. I fucking love it.
@@siegfried8644 Thats y the rushed ending is so tragic. If they just let him finish the story in his own time the TYBA could've rivaled the SS arc. Instead we get 0 division off screened, Ryuken/Isshin showing up to deliver an ass pull, fullbringers/arracar doing almost nothing, a 2 min 1st fight against Bach, no showings from Ichigo's hyped bankai & maybe the worst final boss fight in manga. An extra 20-30 chapters could flesh it all out especially if they ran a little longer than normal
He saved ichigo only because if ichigo dies so does zangetsu or white ichigo
"I AM ZANGETSU"
when anime only fans learn the true meaning of those words
They should take their time in the anime
I never considered a psycho, he just seemed like an extreme on the personality scale. A character who would rather die as king then live as a servant. He fought to dominate not to preserve himself
He is also part hollow
He’s chaotic good
hmm, good point
he's the Id in the freudrian trio, the wild rampant instincts to survive, destroy and procreate that rules over all life forms but it also gives them drive, he can also be seen as Ichigo's shadow archetype: he's everything Ichigo hides and dislikes about himself and the only real way to keep him in check is to acknowledge and confront him.
@@luxsuperbia1531 huh actually true. As hollows tend to focus much more on negativity in them, thx to their nature.
But white didn't had any personality traits, only pure will to survive.
And as zanpaktos are a part of wielder soul - it means he quite literally inherited ichigo's traits.
Huh. Except he knows more stuff and more "cold blooded" due to his nature of zanpakto.
Hollow Ichigo/Zangetsu is a sadistic babysitter, probably the strongest babysitter to evet exist.
what about beerus babysitting pan
Let me put it this way. That is a babysitter that you do NOT want to fuck with. EVER.
Hollow Ichigo's story arc is the most brilliant act of a writer gaslighting our perception of Hollow Ichigo, using our preconceptions masterfully.
I know, right? Poetry in motion!
Honestly, Hollow Ichigo is probably my favorite character in the series, all the brilliant foreshadowing and long-misguided truth reveal to the side, Zangetsu/White gives us a mirror into how Ichigo would have been if he were less tame, meek and fearful and had more will to power and well... instinct.
Ichigo, considering all the circumstances of his heritage, had all the predispositions to be insanely powerful just by raw, inherent talent, having hollow, quincy and shinigami powers, said hollow being sourced from a vasto-lorde level hollow and said shinigami powers from a royal blessed with exceptionally high spiritual pressure, the thing is, with old man ''Zangetsu'' reining in his powers and Ichigo himself constantly refusing to rely on his hollow, all throughout the series, he was practically never utilizing his full potential, or anywhere close to it.
My favorite part about the real Zangetsu is he gives us a view into how insanely powerful our carrot top MC really could have been if he utilized all his inherent talents and powers from the get-go, and honestly, whenever he did take over Ichigo's body, it was a hype moment for me, as he'd universally decimate the opponent that Ichigo was about to get beaten by.
Ichigo: **cuts yami arm** ok I got this now all I need is
Hichigo: damn this yami guy is strong I have to take control of ichigo or he will die
I think that was more so with Ulquiorra. White was trying to stop Ichigo from taking out Yammy, if he did that he would have been forced to fight Ulquiorra next... And everyone knows how that would go
To be fair, white probably could feel both #0 and #4's true nature. As a hollow to a hollow.
I think it was moreso to punish Ichigo for not accepting his other side
Uh. And yami actually was pretty strong in ressurection form. Atleast for the first encounter - idk if ichigo would be able to beat yami on his rampage.
The Zanpakuto filler arc sorta reinforces why Hollow Ichigo is less of a *villain* and more of a guardian.
When Muramasa was able to extract Old Man Zangetsu, Hollow Ichigo (real Zangetsu) not only aided Ichigo in taking on Old Man by fusing his power with Ichigo, he even told Muramasa how dead wrong he was to suggest that it was Ichigo suppressing *him*.
Hollow Ichigo is definitely one of, if not absolute favorite characters in not only Bleach, or Anime/Manga, but in all of fiction. He's kind of a walking psychological embodiment of suppressed potential just waiting to be unleashed that already exists within one's being.
I agree that Zangetsu is a sort of guardian to Ichigo in a tough love kind of way. But i wouldn't use the Zanpakuto filler arc as an example considering it's non canon and wasn't written by Kubo.
@@armannsteinn2736 the Zanpakuto Rebellion Arc is semi-Cannon
I disagree his inner hollow is always fighting for control as it was mindless before and is sentient now. It's attained a powerful body why would he not wrest for control it wants to be free and only abides Ichigo because their souls are bound to each other.
@@IveBeenWithBruma As it was explained, a zanpakto must obey their master. Hollow Ichigo had no choice but to help Ichigo. True, that he wants to be a king but that is just motivation for Ichigo. If hollow Ichigo wanted control then he wouldn't help Ichigo to get stronger after the Vizard thing. All this time, it was tough love (I cant believe I just said that LMFAO).
Honestly the Zanpaktou rebellion arc only supports he's Zangetsu. Once the Quincy left, Hollow Ichigo wanted to show just how strong Ichigo's powers were without restraint, even saying not to hollowfy. No need to force out the power when nothing is restricting him anymore.
There's is a Bankai called
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Ability is it allows you to be notified whenever a video is posted
Shikai- Subscribing
BANKAI - Sub with Bell Notifications lol
@@DBZimran 😂😂 exactly!
@@DBZimran like button smash + sub + notif - merging with the zanpakuto
Suzumaru. Given the way YT likes to f*** up though, it's probably Hihio Suzumaru and not Souou Suzumaru.
I love his sadistic personality to. I don't think I'm right but I feel like his role in the story shown us how to accept our own dark side. How to accept our own flaws and to be more mature. How Ichigo did when he accepted his hollow. Now.... him reminds my of the Beast of Darkness from Berserk. After Stark I would like a video about Byakuya, Halibel or Riruka. Thank you for this amazing video!
Exactly.
So what ur saying is If this was Persona 4 Hollow ichigo is Ichigos shadow
@@7eb055 hollow ichigo is adachi
Same
So the real Zangetsu/White is possibly one of the most complex characters in all of anime. The details and hints of who he really was to Ichigo was literally right in front of everyone's faces and no one noticed it until the end. To add more to his complexity, he was possibly a whole other person prior to him becoming "White" given as to how Aizen continuously experimented and nonchalantly played with many people's lives tampering with Shinigami and Hollow nature. Incredible and yet devilsh writing with mystery on Kubo's part. I really wish he was able to take all the time he needed with this series, such quality writing, character development and foreshadowing would've indeed crafted Bleach in to the sharpest blade of a story.
I feel you on that.
One thing that I was always curious about was the difference in Hollow transformations when Ichigo is training with the Vizards versus his Vasto Lorde transformation. Easy answer is Kubo was still not sure what Ichigo's true Hollow form should look like just yet, and so made him kinda overall beastly with a bunch of seemingly random features to just make him seem chaotic.
But in terms of story, it seemed like each transformation occurs in different circumstances. During his Vizard training, Ichigo was actively combating his inner Hollow, possibly leading to a haphazard and sporadic style of transformation due to conflicting spirit energies for control. This even happens again in the Living Zanpakuto filler arc after Old Man Zangetsu is pulled from Ichigo.
Compare this to his Vasto Lorde transformation, where Ichigo is focused on a single goal, to which his inner Hollow applies all of its strength to accomplish. Ichigo and his Hollow were working instinctively towards a single purpose, but together, not in competition with one another.
Also, upon re-watching, I wonder if Hueco Mundo had some sort of influence on his inner Hollow as well, in a way similar to Chad and his Fullbring abilities being amplified due to their Hollow-like affinity. In a way, it was a return home for that Hollow part of Ichigo. And all that fighting would only serve to make him stronger.
Great video, DBZimran! Can't wait to see your vid on Stark!
Don't put too much thought into it.
They are just different stages or states.Just how his mask progressively elovled.Not to say his hollow evolution was progressive,many diffrent factors and circumstances played into it, for example the intense emotion and trauma he felt in the Ulquiorra fight.
First it was basic body takeover with partial mask,then during his visored training and zampakutou arc he was classiffied as an 'Adjucha' and then 'Vasto Lorde',the highest evolution in Hueco Mundo.
But hey,that's the beauty of Kubo's writing.😋
Easy to explain.
Early hollow form was not entirely a form, but instead a process. Hollow power slowly took over Ichigo's body and his hallow powers manifested slowly over Ichigo's body. Even at the end of the training, hallow Ichigo had one enough power manifested to clad entire body in hallow powers. So, this form slowly built up from 0% of hallow powers to X% of hallow powers, however, this form was just that: Ichigo powers as a soul reaper clad with hallow powers. It was incomplete form in which Ichigo and hallow Ichigo were battling for supremacy. So, first form was just Ichigo being equipped by hallow powers.
Vasto Lorde form, however, was not a power struggle. Instead, hallow Ichigo took over completely and hold both soul reaper powers and hallow powers as his own. Unlike previous form, this one started with its near maximum power at the start.
So, to sum up.
Early form was: Ichigo's soul reaper powers being taking over by his hallow powers, however both of them struggle against each other for control.
Vasto Lorde form: Ichigo's soul reaper powers and hallow powers working together, but for hallow Ichigo.
I think it was just the form prior to vasto lorde (adjuhas or however you spell it I forgot)
Sometimes it felt like his Yhwach side was like his metaphorical mom, wanting to keep him out of trouble, while his Hollow side was his metaphorical dad, wanting him to become stronger.
For me i think it is the reverse, the hollow side is the metaphorical mom, raising him and teaching him, while the old man was the metaphorical dad, not wanting him to go outside the house.
@@diablo.the.cheater
Honestly, I say they were each a bit of both
He literally got his Quincy powers from his mom. Who is old man zangetsu. And his shinigami powers from his dad. Who is hollow ichigo.
literally me and my wife about our son
@@haysnairte4 lol thank you
Your video helped me realize why Bleach had some an impact on me in high school, college, and then ten years later. Hollow Ichigo is akin to the Shadow in Carl Jung's field of psychology. Young Yhwach is akin to the ego. The ego holds back as a matter of self-preservation, but this creates a timid, powerless individual whom is incapable of achieving what one really desires. Think of the common stereotype of millenials, beta males, etc. The shadow is our "dark" side; it's our instinct. It's the part that wants to viciously tear apart, to destroy, and to leave others in ruins because we can. Psychopaths are probably a good example of this, which, again, aligns with the way Vasto Lord Ichigo acted. It's terrifying to be like that, but fits of anger are a good example of this. The harmony betweent he two, or the assimilation of the shadow into the ego, is a balance between brain and instinct. It's what I feel that Ichigo realized in the 1000-year arc when his attained his true zanpakuto. The weirdest thing about this is that this extends to all Shinigami, -- they attain their true bankai, which is often the opposite of their shikai, when they acknowledge what would be their opposite. Soi Fon aligns with this, as does Urahara, Kenpachi, and so on. Realizing this gives me an even deeper respect for Kubo.
This is incredible insight and elaboration on what I touch upon in the video. This is literally the reason why I love and respect Kubo so much. His writing is very under appreciated.
I came here to say something like this but I’m glad you did it first because you made it sound a lot better
The concept of the 'shadow' predates Jung in most other (non-western) cultures.
The ancient Egyptians 3000 years ago considered it an aspect of the soul called 'Shut', and it lived both metaphorically, and physically in the minds of others, as one example.
Shinto is one heck of a religion and spiritual practice, and a lot of it lives on in the best works that have come from Japan.
Ancient psychology is far more fascinating than modern western psychology.
The inner animal is only fearful in your social status in society. The Shadow, the Inner Animal, is only a fear because people fear a lack of societal acceptance. Why would anyone be anything but a beta in a society that fears the negatives of our humanity? People are usually the way they are because society itself acts in the opposite of the individual's benefit. I'm lucky enough to not be forced into such a dynamic. I do not demonize anyone who acquiesces to the will of others.
The Shadow, the Inner Animal, is always a part of you. So why fear yourself for any self-preserving purpose? I think that society works better when everyone is open and honest with themselves. A society that relies on human dishonesty, should not exist.
White: What's the difference between the KING and the HORSE.
Me: well one is a leader, may have castles, influence and wealth and the other is an animal who has bee-
White : INSTINCT
Me: yeh that too-
KINGS chooses to build castles, spread influence, and acquire wealth. To Dominate.
HORSES only want to survive.
Fun fact any zanpakuto regardless of hollowfication CAN control and help their owner. Kenpachi never subjugated his zanpakuto so in his bankai, the spirit (yachiru or nozarashi) controls him. Katen from shunsui's sword even remarks to him right after he used his bankai against lil barro and it didnt work. to "let me take control" implying that zanpakuto that were properly subjugated by the wielder can still control their owners. (I beleive the subjugation just forces the zanpakuto to need the wielders permission)
That makes a lot sense, when you think about it, the zanpakuto are the shinigami so when wielder needs help they'll step in.
And they are soo much skilled than the masters.
And I'm going to get torched, but this is one of the reasons I loved the Zanpakuto Rebellion Arc (Muramasa Filler), when Koga Kuchiki broke Muramasa (his zanpakuto) and became himself his own true wielder, the lore behind both the filler and TBWY showed so much love and care from Tite Kubo.
T_T To deny and disown your own self because you think you truly don't need that part of you... all Muramasa wanted was his master to call upon him once more, to go through such length, just to have it all shattered. T_T
It also happens with Hisagi, Kazeshini feeds him with killer intent and bloodlust when fully released
@@bmg6229 Hell Izuru theorizes that Kazeshini is also the physical embodiment of Shuhei's stress and dark impulses so all that he suppressed went to him if anything Kubo used Kazeshini to foreshadow Zangetsu's true identity and nature
I always did wish that Ichigo had another moment with Hollow Ichigo/ Zangetsu. Like with Old Man Zangetsu(Younger Yuha), he had a moment of clarity when he knew who he was. I wanted to see Hollow Ichigo and Ichigo finally in good terms while speaking face to face. Yes he got his real zanpaktou but he always feared him for what he does to his body or saw him as the enemy because he looked like a Hollow and was hostile. Maybe we would learn that Hollow Ichigos hostility and wanting to be the King on the horse was a facade of how much he wanted to protect Ichigo from the aspect of helplessness.
I think in the zapacto arc ep 235 i guess ichigo and hollow ichigo become one to defait the old man zangetsu
I would like to see it too. Maybe we can when it is animated. Who can we contact to ensure it happens tho?
I think it happened off screen. When fighting Yuha, Ichigo explained that in order to "wake someone up" to use his Hollow Hybrid form, he needed to be exposed to a lot of Quincy Reiatsu, as he hadn't mastered doing it himself with his own Quincy powers yet.
So I assume it was a bit after the forging that Ichigo went into his inner world and conversed with them both to learn about his new powers.
Zangetsu: “I refuse to play horse to a king who’s weaker than me”
13yo me understanding what that meant: 👁 👁
💧 👄 💧
Damn right
i still dont get it
Kuki Urie basically he’s saying I dont want to lend you my power if you’re not going to use probably to keep both of us alive
Its crazy how Kenpachi basically awakened hollow ichigo and was able to take him on even while limiting himself in battle.
So basically, whenever Ichigo uses his hollow mask alongside any form, that is tecnically a suppressed true shikai/bankai. The Vasta Lorde is a purely Hollowfied Bankai.
While I love naruto just as much as bleach one of my biggest complaints with naruto was the six paths power up It didn't feel earned unlike ichigo finding out about white and young yhwach which made him come to terms with himself and finally help forge the blades that would become the true zanpaktou.
The reason for that probably comes more the fact of barely getting enough mentions for the sage of sixth paths alot.... Now that I think about besides the fact ryu and isshin both had kids they were connected by quincy related stuff which helps explain didn't just and shoot isshin regardless of his soul reaper background every time they interacted
That Six path power of Naruto and Sasuke was bullcrap. The most unneccessary powerup in anime.
@@bleach4k239 The power was given to them it kinda defeats the whole point of the working hard to grow stronger and you think the sage of six paths would take back the power from naruto and sasuke after sealing kaguya
Man...this is one of the things that makes ichigo different from other shonen protagonist, his power is explained throughout the series and not just purely plot armour and you did a great job explaining it
I love this analysis. Kubo's best writing was the set up for the twist that Hollow Ichigo was his true Zanpakuto. It all made sense, even up to Nimaiya revealing that Ichigo never had a real zanpakuto because he didn't have an asauchi. Everything made sense because it had been set up from the start. I'm glad it gets appreciated with videos like this.
I love that hollows themselves are very primal in their actions, it seems like a nod to the shadow described by Carl Jung. They aren't evil, but just viewed as that because of how honest they are on following their instincts.
I feel like kenpachi would love to fight white
Yeah but his but would be kicked
@@pashuku1915 maybe if the fight was short. In the long run I doubt it
NO CAP I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT
Bankai Kenpachi vs True Bankai Ichigo?
Some people want to save the world, others just wanna watch it burn
@@napalmelderlich That fight honestly would be cool, but I am afraid to the world around the two fighting... I mean, the moment those swords clash, the world around them would propably just break into little pieces.
It's sad ichigo never tries to understand zangetsu until he is fused with the quincy powers. When it is too late to understand his blade cus he loses his powers after dangai. Good video
@Snake yup
@Snake yes when ichigo gets his true zampakto white ichigo appears as his zampakto spirit
@Snake The novels confirm that he regains his powers after the war
white accepted him in the tybw arc and become the larger blade of the two zangetsus
@Snake he didnt lost his powers At all against yhwach, he lost some energy and energy gets regained just like we regain our energy by eating food
I love how powerful the story arc of Ichigo and Zangetsu is it goes way deeper than just the normal "the enemy is myself" story arcs
I love how when the asuchi turns into zangetsu he's drawn in a almost sad manner as if he's been "neglected" all his life
I know I might be overthinking it, but the battle between Hollow Ichigo and Young Ywatch inside Ichigo pretty much mirrors the inner battle in each of us. The battle between our instincts and logic side, both are part of us but we have to accept each of them in order to survive and develop properly. Thanks to your videos I am getting to understand how deep Bleach is and it truly helps me appreciate the manga even more.
Zangetsu is a beast. He's the best bleach character ever. None can deny this
Fierce too loved the way he wields his shikai havent seen anything like this with ichigo
Hollow Ichigo is a awesome showing of ones inner demon. Its antagonistic and it will fight you. But ultimately, it's trying to tell you something, something you've forgotten about yourself or something new to realize about yourself, and ultimately a truth about itself.
Damn right!
Yes he made it and nice job on your sponser DBZimran
Couldn't have done it without all of your support!
@Sonic The Artist nice drawings
hallow ichigo is such a presence that he stands as his own character. kubo's art and knowledge of the human face is so oceanic and vast that even IF they have the same face shape, design, body, nose, jaw, etc. i still believe he's a different person because of his expressions and body language. i also love how unlike everyone else in the hueco mundo arc he doesn't lie about anything. he never tells a lie and never says something he doesn't 100% believe in or something he won't fallow through on. because of that honesty, he is by far the strongest character in that arc only being one up by aizen (though keep in mind we only saw vasto lorde at half strength and not at full so jury is still out on who is stronger.). this whole theme of deceit is perfectly executed in the perfect way but i feel like a lot of people miss it. a great example is orihime and well...... let's save that for another time.
This!!! Maybe Kubo wasn't the most technical/detailed manga artist but he's so effing good at making the characters be unique and stand out from each other!! The way he adds details and his creativity is also top notch. I mean come on, 90% of the characters in the show are dressed exactly the same it forced him to find other ways to differentiate them!
Robb Korhonen couldn’t agree more man
@@mischifer1 This. YES.
I think his honesty is partly due to to fact that he is a zanpakutou. As we see in the zanpakutou arc, they tend to say what is on their mind and don't seem to lie unless someone has put them up to it. As for the Old Man, he wasn't originally a zanpakutou, which may explain why he lied for so long compared to the hollow
Hollow ichigo broke the talk no jutsu out of ichigo. Most Shonen protagonist would try to convince their enemies to stop doing the evil deeds but hollow ichigo is the reality in a world where it is to kill or be killed.
Love his character and play his bankai form in brave souls mainly because he doesn't hold back.
Maybe it's just my view, but I was lead to believe White was a remnant of Ichigo's unconventional gain of Soul Reaper Powers through becoming a Plus then a Hollow temporarily and because of that he still had traces of the transformation he had to start with, although as you pointed out this happened to be the same time that White would manifest inside because Ichigo's breaking of his Hollow transformation into a Soul Reaper was really him breaking the seal of his parents. Anger, Instinct, Primal Desire. When we first see White he is the very namesake of the series. A Shinigami in a White as opposed to a Black Shihakusho. He immediately shows a different interpretation of things to Ichigo that even goes as far as the way he uses Zangetsu or himself swinging it like a flail using the wrappings which the wrappings itself seemingly just serving an aesthetic purpose as well as the most notable thing of Zangetsu being how large it is, no one would even ever consider using it that way and if they did most would expect a slow sling. *Not Zangetsu though.* In my interpretation of Zanpakuto Spirits I feel being the weapons themselves they will inherently have the knowledge of how to best use their weapon forms and any abilities they may have, if not by Ichigo's then by Shuhei's who coincidentally resembles Ichigo and seemingly has no special ability to his Zanpaktou outside of the same capabilty to swing it around and maybe wrap things. It's also why it's no small coincidence he would take over as protagonist for Ichigo while he's on literal vacation in CFYOW. (Did Ichigo ever really get any special abilities with his fake or real Zanpakuto though? My running theory is Getsuga in Shikai and an extra Speed Boost in Bankai but Getsuga isn't unique and Bankai should already be it's own multiplier/amp.) I see White as in the same boat as Old Man Zangetsu where he just wants what's best for Ichigo but has to use his own methods that come naturally to him by being forceful. If the Old Man was the Gentle Mother as he is technically the remnants of his Mother he would be the Father as weird and as cursed as that sounds. Often times taking the path of reason happens to work for Ichigo, believing everyone has some purpose for fighting and doesn't strictly want to kill them, this works and applies on notably, Ikkaku, Renji, and Byakuya, maybe even Kenpachi who might just find his view "interesting" on how he has so much power and still refuses to fight for the joy of it, which is more in line with White. Which is a shame he never appeared in Kenpachi's fight because I would love to see if he would cream his pants at that side of Ichigo or not. Though the first battle where Ichigo utilized White both literally in addition to his ideals was Grimmjow I felt while right before he finished the fight he did declare he had the "Instinct" and fought for the joy of battle as White tried to convince him, he also kept the "Reason" Ichigo and Old Man Zangetsu believe in. Perhaps at this time by clashing with Grimmjow he saw into him giving him any missing information in addition to Grimmjow relentlessly declaring himself King not unlike White even though it is obvious not only are there Espada and Soul Reapers like himself more powerful than him. My interpretation is Ichigo understands Grimmjow has an innate fear of something if he isn't the "King" he keeps claiming he is, that being he might revert to a thoughtless mass of Hollow Souls which is an existience comparable in how awful it is to the Soul King. So he can't help but keep fighting on as it is out of Fear of regression to that- out of Instinct. For that reason when he wins he grabs Grimmjow's arm and gently puts him down as if to say "You don't have to fight so hard against me, I don't hate you, I'm not looking down on you." He simply needed his Instinct to counter Grimmjow's which conveying his is perhaps the only way he could understand. Which is why Ichigo becomes so enraged when Nnoitra strikes him while he is in this vulnerable state. He in theory could take Orihime and run as I've never seen Nnoitra fight in the air for long periods of time but he could still maybe match Ichigo's speed if not surpass it. He'd have to grab Nel too. Next would him being seemingly killed by Ulquiorra for the 2nd time. Imagine being in Ichigo's place and this again notes how what makes Ichigo so much greater and at the same time more foreign to people than people like Luffy or Naruto is how he reacts to things in the story realistically. Imagine after escaping a Brush with death to someone once you come out stronger and are so grateful for the 2nd chance you'll never let it go to waste, as seen when Ichigo has gotten stronger in the short time: you fall again to the same opponent. Although this time right before you do you see he very person you were fighting for now vulnerable. If you are conscious at all it is only in your own mind, you would be beyond panic, beyond fear. There is no power up or special technique you have that you know of to use. If you did it is too late, there is no one powerful enough to know where you are outside of Las Noches in time to save you or anyone. What Ulquiorra said to Orihime actually applied to Ichigo: You are alone. No one (besides Orihime) will see you die. I'm doing my best to convey it with words but really it's a feeling of absolute panic and fear you'd have to feel something similar to understand. Maybe you want to throw up, maybe you feel your heart is about to burst, maybe there's a cold through out your body or a painful heat in your head. But there's nothing left. You still see it as you have to do something as Ichigo notes to Ulquiorra why he fights. If this is a story you have to see it through to it's happy ending. Surely something will come? Surely something will happen? You'll go on living as you always do? The reality reflects the environment they are fighting in. A lifeless lonely desert in an eternal night that for some reason I always thought had it's own beauty. Ichigo is dead. The last thing he hears is Orihime's crying. If any thoughts or reason remained it could only be something simple, something instinctive. "I must protect-" that lone thought is the only thing that remains alive. "-Must protect." Through this panic and through that last core thought it either undoes any and all resistance Ichigo had on White or White actually shared an instinctual desire to protect what Ichigo wishes too. If what Old Man Zangetsu wants to protect isn't what Ichigo wants to protect, and White in a few ways could be interpreted as the opposite of him then he should want to protect what Ichigo wants to protect: being Orihime. And getting into Power Scaling over narrative we see that this desire at max scales 250x above this form of Ulquiorra that's 100x the base Ichigo was doing rather well against while Masked, using the most basic form of White's power. Which is roughly 20x to 100x Ichigo's base as well depending on how you want to do the math. Ichigo wins. But was basically dead/asleep while it happened. Another feeling you have do your best to fully empathize with. What I suspect is getting drunk then waking to learn you did all these awful things you weren't even aware of. As opposed to gently setting someone like Grimmjow down who was believed to be beyond understanding and respected in the end. Ulquiorra has been mutilated and beaten, he succedded in terrifying Orihime, which was the thing holding him back in the previous battle with Grimmjow he tried to prevent, as well as stabbing Uryu. The worse part: It worked. When his previous belief of his and Old Man Zangetu's reason and understanding didn't. Ichigo is obviously distraught of this on top of the damage he has caused. Though at the last second with Ulquiorra's death if not just Orihime, he too understands Ulquiorra finally, or maybe Ulquiorra understands them. For all these reasons, Ichigo's mental barrier on himself becomes stronger than it's ever been, not in the previous dominative and resolveful way he has to force White or his mask to cooperate, but in a more submissive, fearful way and this is why he can no longer use his Mask properly and we never see it again after this arc. The mask itself has changed. This is the last bit of characterization and who it affects by White we get without delving into Old Man Zangetsu as well which would be a nice theme to follow after Starrk and the 10k special I know is going to be great whatever it is. Finally outside of reading (although it was after for me) Johnny Yong Bosch is just amazing at portraying and conveying him, it's just no contest for me. I just want at least *someone* to acknowledge that. He also did a guttural scream when completely taking over as opposed to what sounds like a more stock roar in the Japanese version. Would love to touch on *both* Zangetsus another time if we ever get a video on the Zanpakuto Spirit Arc! Good work as usual!
Very nice points, I didn't ever think of it that way, that after the fight with ulqui, the reason he felt shame and fear is because he basically woke up after a drunk rage and killed someone he didn't intend to or truly want to kill. That definitely explains the deep shame and fear he'd have. Like even though he won... It was not in an agreeable it honorable way, and caused more destruction than good.
Even though he won, he would feel like he fucked up and didn't deserve it, and wouldn't even consider it a win, or even a fight.
It's one thing to want to beat someone in a fight or make a bully back off from your friend, but even in the prescience of that, if you get drunk, find them while drunk, kill and mutilate them in that drunk state and then wake up after and see what you did and know your friends and loved ones saw you do that... You'd feel horrible and NEVER want to do that again, likely wouldn't even take pride in it.
I get that new. It confused me why he couldn't hollowfy after that but I understand it now, thanks.
@@occultninja4 Glad my own drunken ramblings could help.😊Thanks for taking the time to read it.
Woah
White Zangetsu is actually a good guy, I liked his gestures right from the start.
I have to say, as much as a fan as Bleach as I am, I never noticed all the subtle details of each character, specially Zangetsu's. Loving all the in-depth instrospection of each character, can't wait for Aizen's turn!
I always felt Ichigo was too weak considering all the powers he had. After seeing this video I now understand it’s because Ichigo was always denying or in fear of his powers. I have a whole new level of respect for Kubo. Hope the anime lets him do his story justice.
I'm at work when this came out, but i couldn't wait this mans content is a must watch for bleach fans
Edit: And this type of writing and for shadowing is why Bleach deserves its spot on the big 3. Sure not all characters were as developed and sure it was rushed and has filler, but when you dig deep you see a LOT more than other anime
He is ZANGETSU!
Nice vid man can’t wait for your next! Do you plan on making some sort of personal vid? Like you talking about your fav anime and how you got into anime? Maybe in your next subscribers special?
If people care for what I have to say I'd love to :')
@@DBZimran it would be a fun video :)
@@DBZimran I/We care :D :)
I wish there more scenes of Zangetsu.
I always wanted more inner world scenes for all the Shinigami. The Zanpakutou filler arc was a good compromise.
They missed a chance with Hyourinmaru though during the Diamond Dust Rebellion movie.
@@SeraphimFaith well with Kubo working close with the anime team we may get some in quote unquote "filler" which is some of the ideas he couldn't put into the manga due to time and health issues
@@masonwilliams1345 I also hope the returning anime expand the epilogue. It was rushed in the manga
I love how Hollow ichigo is Loyal to ichigo even tho he just wants his body on the Zanpakto arc when the Zanpakto turn against the soul society he is offered a chance to be free but remains loyal
I don’t know what it is but something about this video makes me feel so at ease. I already love hollow ichigo as a character, but hearing such a good analysis that makes this insane character sane is just satisfying
The editing on this was legendary. Couldn't wait till the end to coment about it 😍😍😍. Great job as always Imran, can't wait to see the special one
Bro you're going to blow up. You're video essays are so interesting and i'm so happy to say you've earned a sub and im more than happy to spread the word of your channel! The qaulity here is top notch!
Im also so glad your bleach video was recommended to me, it got me interested in the series again! I just want to say thank you for that, without it I wouldnt give a damn about the anime coming back. Im not a huge manga reader but at the end of the day I had to know how the series ended. Props to any anime only fans who have stuck it out and are waiting for everything to be animated👏.
So Basically, Hollow Ichigo is the Dad while young Juha Bach was the mom.
I love how his Hollow and Quincy part worked together in order to protect Ichigo
My favorite thing about Zangetsu is how he absolutely loves spinning himself (his sword) around.
Man, the quality of these videos feels like they come from a channel that has many more subscribers. My man, trust me, you are gonna become a big UA-camr one day, you do these videos so professionally and you analyze things so well that I can say that no other anime UA-camr can parry you. Bleach returns next year so you will get even more attention then than now, and with your skills to make someone as quickly bored as me to watch a 22-minute video sponsorship and views are gonna come like they never did.
Thank you so much! Comments like this really motivate me to keep going, I appreciate your time!
This is why bleach is my favorite anime
You know I’ve watched and read bleach so many times…but now I finally realize who white is and tite kubo is an amazing writer for this…white is literally that voice in your head that will always tell you, your not good enough…your weak…and will constantly protect you from being hurt because that voice in your head will get hurt as well…bleach really is the best anime of all time. Thank you DBZ for the interpretation of ichigos hollow spirit! It was well said!
Zangetsu: The Id
Ichigo: The Ego
Manifestation: The Super Ego
One thing to notice are how similar Ichigo and Zangetsu/H.Ichigo truly are.
Ichigo does have that killer instinct that Zangetsu talks about, but the interesting part is that he uses his "heroic" actions as an excuse to fight as stated by Grimmjow during their fight in Hueco mundo.
“Why did you come here?
Isn't it obvious? To rescue Inoue
Then why didn't you took the bitch and ran away the moment you saw her?....
Let me break it down to you, because you don't seem yo undestand, you didn't came here to rescue her, you came here to fight"
After that statement, during the final moments of the battle Ichigo's attitude feels like Zangetsu's.
he smiles, and even mocks Grimmjow while fighting.
“Hah! You can't stand what? Being treated like an equal by a human?"
IMO it is only when Ichigo accepts his insticts for battle when he becomes a better fighter, since he is uncounsionly accepting H.Ichigo as himself
Since Hollow Ichigo didn't come out the first time Ulquiorra overpowered and almost killed Ichigo leads me to think that even as he was dying, Ichigo was still rejecting White. However, the second time around, when Orihime's cries were added to the mix, it made Ichigo desperate enough that he unwittingly set his Hollow freed.
I'm just misunderstood
I guess old man zangetsu's stache will have to do.
indeed a suprising character. From start to finish it would appear to be an antagonist fuesed to the protaginsit. But everything he did was his own instinct, combiend with his purpose as a Zanpaktu
if Quincy Zangetsu was the wise old man mentor then Zanpaktou Zangetsu was the sink and swim mentor
two sides, diffrent personalites
but both part of one with the same goal
protect and mature Ichigo
trulya fascinating character.
Good Cop Bad Cop, so to speak.
During ichigo's battle with grimmjow, he started to act more like hichigo as the fight went on.
I don't think anybody but Kubo himself could have explained it better. Great video bro. I'm subscribing
I just made this connection. We found out Kisuke studied plenty of the Zero divisions creation and training. So, kisuke made ichigo hurt or dodge a punch like in the hot springs when he reacts quick.
Shattered Shaft is a 3 day period to become a shinigami or a hollow
The hoodin has a time limit to fight for a asauchi to accept you.
So Ichigo had a sealed asauchi, during the hollow bait incident he blocks a cero, and uryu states " hes pouring out so much spiritual pressure. Otesu said " time for a bit of your soul, then pull it out.
So kisuke created the zangetsu, so this might be why in the soul palace
The asauchi might so know of ichigo "cheating " by having someone other otesu.
One thing you kind of forgot was when Ichigo dealt the winning blow to Kenpachi we get to see a manifestation of his reitsi, which looks exactly like he's hollow. Plus in the filler arc of the zanpakuto rebellion: when Ichigo received power from his hollow self it again looks as when he fought Kenpachi.
I just keep loving this channel more and more
I love hollow ichigo he was such a presence they way he fights and this vid digging more into him makes me love him even more
Man bleach sure brings back good memories.
ever since ichigos kenpachi fight and when he left his inner world when hollow ichigo went all chill, i loved him as a character, and i realized that he was a lethal protector like venom. like if ichigo had instead befriended him it woulda been alot like eddie brock and venom, and how they work together so seemlessly, like its second nature. just overall woulda been an awesome character dynamic.
That would’ve been pretty awesome
Something I think a lot of people also kinda miss about 'Shirosaki'/Hollow Ichigo is that his demeanor is actually not that far off from Ichigo during the very earliest chapters of Bleach, back when Ichigo showed more personality. He was a lot more outspoken, aggressive, prone to getting into fights and threatening others, and an all-around punk. Literally character traits that Shirosaki portrays, only amplified up to eleven. In a sense, the Inner Hollow was the closest to Ichigo's most natural and relaxed behaviour from before the Soul Society arc. Hence why the whole 'instinct' thing is so important during the 'King and His Horse' speech. Ichigo, at that point, has stopped living according to his impulsive, instinctual behaviour that he used to in the past.
Hollow Ichigo actually being the real zangetsu really does make sense to me after it was confirmed and the fake one was a quicny soul of Ichigo but also ywach a younger one was crazy
I do love the fact that even though hollow ichigo looks like ichigo, his fighting style is way different than ichigo's, even when he takes over his body. The way he spins that huge sword from the strap at the end of it like a helicopter with no effort is really kool. I guess being stronger and faster than ichigo helps with that. The only thing I don't like is that hollow doesn't stick around to fight long enough.
"Some may say that he instinctively won"
I see that you're drawing on my power DBZimran
Lmfao what a great follow up :') Lend me your strength from now on!
@@DBZimran I'll lend you my strength but that means if you ever get the slightest bit lazy that's all it'll take for me to knock you down and take over your channel!!
Wonderful video. As much as the Hollow was helping Ichigo out, the most interesting part of him to me is the fact that he's both right and wrong. He shows Ichigo that killer instinct is what he needs at the moment, but while Hollow thinks this should be a constant thing, Ichigo must learn to balance the Hollow and the Quincy, his instinct and his compassion. Multiple scenes show Ichigo failing for relying on one or the other too much, his final form represents him finally completing his character arc which had been set up since chapter 1. It also relates to the themes of death heavily. You shouldn't let yourself become depressed at the thought of death but you also can't ignore it. So cool how Kubo is able to make these inherently dark things way more complex than one might think. You're first shown "death is scary" and then you're given "death is nothing to be feared" but there is then a third lesson that teaches you to live in the middle. Yhwach represents Ichigo's (and humanity's) instinctual fear of death, but I'll wait for you to make a video on him before I say much more.
I love how you provided insight on Hollow Ichigo and Ichigo by pointing out the subtle, yet key, details. Great video!!
Keep em' coming my man! Your videos are some of the ones i look forward to weekly. I hope more bleach fans find you.
Bro seriously I've been waiting for someone to take a deep dive into this character and man you did an awesome job. Definitely subbing to you. Great work my man.
Ironically, ichigo never really used Zangetsu like his hope counterpart anyway outside of saving Rukia and against YHWCH
Thanks for the in depth analysis, I really enjoyed your hollow ichigo and grimmjow analysis and please continue to make more
Finally!! Someone explained this with clarity! Thank you
Im still amazed how many hints kubo showed and had planned from the beginning, the quincy blue getsuga learned from the old man, the black from the hollow zangetsu. The red lines on the mask getting longer when the old man whas getting weaker. The broken chain of his bankai looking back to epi c19 the chains of ichigo getting eaten while searching for his blade.. i miss al this
Man I still rememebr being younger n hearing "if u want to control my power dont die" n then reading the manga weekly and ichigo dies. All week people were like omg and I was like "Dude rememebr his hollow said dont die watch him come back."
This is by far the best explanation I’ve ever seen about this side of him. Loved this man!
I freaking luv ya for this breakdown my man ...just makes me happier that I keep bleach as one of my top tier animes !!!! I knew kubo had understanding of his characters and nothing was just randomly added or filled in !!!! You rock brotha
What I found bone chilling about this character is that his notions are the complete opposite of other stories, anime and cartoon adaptions. Its practicality is really usable, you cant think your way out and instinct is the only thing you cant counter against.
I believe that Shattered Shaft was a technique that Urahara developed particularly for Ichigo's case. Since his Zanpakutou is his inner Hollow, forcing the Human part of his soul into Hollowification would draw out his Zanpakutou as well
YET ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO, KEEP IT UP IMRAN
My favorite character in all of Bleach..... I was waiting for this video to come out! Might even be my favorite character in all of anime but thank you for blessing my morning 🔥🙏🏾
These videos are great but are you planning on analysing newer shonen?
These videos show why how bleach actually has depth more than people don't even credit which is frustrating
Because let's face it most people who watch shounen do it for the BOOM BOOM POW, not for philosophy.
Imagine if he had embraced Zangetsu from the beginning?
He could have accepted his help, if for no other reason than to have access to his full powers.
The reason for the possessions were due to him refusing his Zanpakuto, all the while still wanting to use his power.
It sounds kind of crappy to have someone else's life in your hands, even gaining power from this interaction, and not caring for or protecting your benefactor...
No wonder he got frustrated when Ichigo consistently refused to use all of the power available to him when fighting enemies that he knows are stronger than him...it's like paying taxes and the government keeps insisting on sending social workers to handle situations that would require a SWAT team.
I like the narration and info. Alot of plot holes that I missed watching your videos. I appreciate that as a bleach fan
just watched for the first time...very impressed by your analysis. I love this kind of thing! It is so interesting learning about one of my favorite animes and discovering answers to questions i have always had! cheers! subbed!