This is probably the best example I've ever heard of showcasing the new colors and emotional capabilities of 31-tet as opposed to 12. The color and tension in this progression just....gives me such chills with each rise and fall. Each resolution. Pure is the best word I could use to describe the sound. Could easily imagine this in a film score.
I appreciate it. I'm glad it captures a cinematic effect. For me making music is a very visual process too. Making tracks often feels like tuning into different worlds. So yeah, it definitely can result into filmscore-esque soundscapes.
One could argue that comfort is detrimental to all art. I am often very intimidated by the music of others, but I think it's necessary tension for me to keep pushing my own boundaries. Music-making often feels like a pendulum between the extremes of self-doubt and confidence. Thanks for listening!
Sound like an old sci-fi movie. This also makes me think of those "scale of the universe" videos where you progressively zoom out from the size of an atom to the entire observable universe. If each measure means a tenfold increase of scale, the duration perfectly matches one required for zooming from a proton until the universe starts to appear uniform at largest scales (then we can get where we started from, a uniform cloud of matter). The piece can induce awe, surprise and existential dread.
When I was 4 poker face struck fear into my heart cause I was fairly new to music and hearing a medium I’d never heard before. Somehow this is giving me the same feeling 13 years later, but with uneasy excitement added as a bonus. Absolutely incredible work here :D Little bit of a rant here: After a lot of pondering, I reckon we as westerners are trying our best to copy/paste 12 tone ideas that have been incredibly well developed over ages, but I think this kind of experimentation is the route we should be going down. Just sitting with this new tuning, expressing and innovating, and seeing where stuff goes :0 I wonder if someday we’ll all adjust to different tunings between songs like we do with different genres! And then some time decades or centuries from now we’ll have “the rules” for all kinds of tunings
Wow, this is insane! I'm in awe at the rich soundscape you've created, it's unlike anything I've ever heard before! Edit: the chord progression from 3:18 is my favourite one so far, it's so sinister and ominous.
I was recently talking to a buddy about Annihilation. I am not quickly impressed by movies but that one stood out to me, I need to watch it again. I re-listened to the whole soundtrack, I agree, great stuff.
@@benyamind yeah it's time i revisit that movie again. You ever here the Hereditary ost by Colin Stetson? Or any of Colin's work in the last 5 years. Might fascinate you. His thing is more extended technique and texture than additional tones, but figured I'd throw it out there! Cheers
Sure thing! I mostly use Kontakt. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html This one from Sevish is also helpful: ua-cam.com/video/WxrpZ4L404M/v-deo.html
Nowadays there are many options with different synths. My go to is Kontakt. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
Most of it is from Kontakt. Its factory library and also from the Ethno World 6 library. I stack quite a few pads in this piece to obtain power but also to get a lot of details in the appearance of the sound. There are also automations going on to open up the sensation. Thank you!
@@benyamind nice method. Ethnoword is a classic, recently I installed Mysteria which has automations built in and great chorales but it has issues with microtuning it seems 😑
Humans, beyond helpless, smaller than tiny, we watch and we don't understand. Human souls ripped from their bodies, floating in a place beyond touch, watching angels and demons rush towards the earth to fight the last and largest battle that will ever be fought. Humans, watching from the void. Stars between your fingers when you reach out. Flames growing, and you can do nothing. Jacob Collier is there, playing a... it looks like a trombone, but it has fur. The Ender Dragon screams. The earth breaks in half. You start to vibrate, and all of the cosmos is filled with water. The water tastes like neon green and purple and a memory from your childhood that you long ago convinced yourself was not real. Salt crystals grow on your hands and you start falling upwards and forwards, approaching the speed of light. You swing around a center of force you dare not look at, and you know that it is God. The man beside you looks up and is vaporized. You keep looking down. Every plant to ever live is dragged through the water like a streak of paint. Trillions of green needles in the deep blue void, but the sun is rising, deep blue turning to cyan, and bubbles form on your skin. You are shaken impossibly hard and the ground of a new world rises to meet your feet at a speed beyond terror. impact.
That's ok. A part of the exploration is finding out how people react to it. With 31 I can experience an ease, but also the discomfort you experience. It depends on the usage. I don't particularly like 31 when it's trying to do 12-tone music, but I like it a lot when you go deeper into its structures.
How do you even come up wqith something as nice as this? How long have you been composing microtonal stuff ? Do you have any videos to help us start learning how to do it too?
Glad you enjoy it. I've been making microtonal music for a good 5 years now (time flies). I guess the key things in music are passion, effort and time.. As I am so passionate about it I keep investing time into at. At some point you get to this point where a lot of stuff becomes intuitive rather than a conscious process. So right here you could view this as a very complicated web of chords. But realistically, I just closely listen to a chord by itself, then how it relates to the chords it connects to, and then how it sounds in the bigger pictures. Also, these chords all started out rather simple, and then get more dense as I am building. For years I've worked with cluster chords so my ear is used to this process. I try not to overcomplicate it. If I don't feel it's quite right in the moment, I trust myself to hear what's bugging me next day. Taking a break gives you a fresh ear. I feel like a lot of (theory/production) stuff in music can be overwhelming, but in the end music comes from your inner. So trust your creative being and just keep going. You should hear my first beats from more than a decade ago lol! Here's a video I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html And a video where I introduce you to 17-tone equal temperament: ua-cam.com/video/LiMrUBo3qeQ/v-deo.html Thanks for your interest!
Hi, i would love to know how did you implement this microtonal piano roll to your fl studio? I'm looking around hoping to find some kind of microtonal software but can't find anything alike
I mostly use Kontakt to go microtonal. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html This video from Sevish is also helpful to introduce you to the possibilities out there: ua-cam.com/video/WxrpZ4L404M/v-deo.html
I tune synths. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html Regarding your second question: I'd say it's a mix of theory and feel. The theory side for me is not so much the theory of western harmony but more about exploring harmonics and how to create a stabile sensation through understanding intervallic relations. You can get away with the weirdest things because the most absurd types of dissonance can create novel consonant structures in the right contexts. With this said, I think the 'feel' side of things is often more important. Theory to me is a consequence, not a cause. The more I free myself from right or wrong, the more I can just drift off into inner space. Thanks for listening!
@@benyamind Thanks for responding to my questions! Literally all my music is feel, I tried to find out what scale one of my songs is in and turns out I invented a new scale that isn't in any form of music lol. I think its often good but I do struggle with stuff like chord progressions from not knowing theory.
It'd be cool to hear a version with just standard strings or something so we could hear the notes better. It's so washed out with all the reverb the uniqueness of the tuning and massive chords is hard to appreciate fully.
This is the sort of soundtrack you imagine hearing in a Minecraft End dimension update
Real asf, i second this statement
It's like hearing music for the first time
The emotive breadth of 31tet is stunning. You got me vacillating between eternal bliss and agonizing fear
Well said.
Yeah that isn't actually due to the temperament lol, so many extra sounds the actual xenharmonic subtleties are hard to percieve
This is the sort of sound that awakens you to the existence of a 4th spatial dimension
This is probably the best example I've ever heard of showcasing the new colors and emotional capabilities of 31-tet as opposed to 12. The color and tension in this progression just....gives me such chills with each rise and fall. Each resolution. Pure is the best word I could use to describe the sound. Could easily imagine this in a film score.
I appreciate it. I'm glad it captures a cinematic effect. For me making music is a very visual process too. Making tracks often feels like tuning into different worlds. So yeah, it definitely can result into filmscore-esque soundscapes.
@@benyamindi wish i had anywhere near your level of imagination
Dune part 3 should introduce 31-tet to the masses!
Very nice! I could see this working very well in a movie/game sequence about discovering remnants of an alien civilization
This is the vibe!
Yup, Makes me think of Annihilation, which had a fantastic soundtrack
Definitely got alien/mytsery/horror/demonic vibes
Instantly thought of Halo.
That chord at 1:11 is so beautiful
I love the next chord
daaaamn, and here i am, trying to make dark ambient with only one chord. this is terrifying and i mean in the best way
One could argue that comfort is detrimental to all art. I am often very intimidated by the music of others, but I think it's necessary tension for me to keep pushing my own boundaries. Music-making often feels like a pendulum between the extremes of self-doubt and confidence.
Thanks for listening!
@@benyamind nice and wise words ☺️
I LOVE HOW IT SOUNDS EVIL IN SOME CHORDS BUT THEN THAT TENSION GETS RELEASED IN SOME AREAS SO COOL!!!!
I also love how the bassline slowly starts rising
The idea was to have that bassline slowly go through that upward motion and then arrange a whole progression around that!
Sounds like a soundtrack for an arthouse science fiction horror. Very good.
This is one of my favourites so far. I love the progression idea, it's like tuning between radiostations on planet bizzaro.
Help me! I'm trapped in a YT algorithm loop where I get recommended only 31TET music and I totally love it (even though it sounds horrific!)
You'll be aight buddy 💪
This is fantastic, what a great progression, so earthy and yet somehow extra-terrestrial! ;)
🙌
this made me feel both awe and fear at the same time, absolutely spectacular
I get so many emotions from this. it's scary and tranquil and overwhelming and epic at the same time.
Nice harmonization of that chromatic scale, nice ambiance, cool stuff.
Wow this evokes indescribable primal feelings inside of me
This is intense and ethereal and beautiful and otherworldly all in one. I am in awe. (genuine)
I'm glad it evokes these sensations! Thank you for sharing.
I gotta know what VST this is, it's absolutely haunting in its beauty, and the 31 progression truly sells the vibe. Absolutely astounding!
Thank you. It's done with the VST Kontakt. I stack a bunch of sounds to obtain the big sound you hear here.
This is so suitable for an alien movie .. love it
I have a new obsession.
Best listened to with eyes closed, wearing studio headphones, in a freezing cold room.
this is so cool... i always wanted to try out different temperaments.. havent been able to do yet..lol
Sound like an old sci-fi movie. This also makes me think of those "scale of the universe" videos where you progressively zoom out from the size of an atom to the entire observable universe. If each measure means a tenfold increase of scale, the duration perfectly matches one required for zooming from a proton until the universe starts to appear uniform at largest scales (then we can get where we started from, a uniform cloud of matter). The piece can induce awe, surprise and existential dread.
Journey to the Centre of the Mind
I want to shit my pants watching a scene of an indie japanese horror movie with this as a soundtrack
Video or it didn't happen
This might be the greatest thing ive ever heard
Bless
bro... this is so epic. immediately subscribed
I appreciate it!
this is astonishing
Oh boy this is madness.... I love this.
That was so fun tysm
this sounds so... mystical
holy shit this is something truly amazing (i could easily see this being in like a scene from interstellar or something WOW)
damn dude.. never thought i'd enjoy a build-up or progression like this o-o
Sounds like the music that you would expect to see all the wonders of the universe revealed to.
Beautiful
cool sounds. i like the piano roll background too
Oh my goodness, this is just so crushingly awesome.
Thank you!
When I was 4 poker face struck fear into my heart cause I was fairly new to music and hearing a medium I’d never heard before. Somehow this is giving me the same feeling 13 years later, but with uneasy excitement added as a bonus. Absolutely incredible work here :D
Little bit of a rant here: After a lot of pondering, I reckon we as westerners are trying our best to copy/paste 12 tone ideas that have been incredibly well developed over ages, but I think this kind of experimentation is the route we should be going down. Just sitting with this new tuning, expressing and innovating, and seeing where stuff goes :0 I wonder if someday we’ll all adjust to different tunings between songs like we do with different genres! And then some time decades or centuries from now we’ll have “the rules” for all kinds of tunings
Wow, this is insane! I'm in awe at the rich soundscape you've created, it's unlike anything I've ever heard before!
Edit: the chord progression from 3:18 is my favourite one so far, it's so sinister and ominous.
I appreciate it!
go to 0:44 and keep hitting the right arrow
So cool that it almost perfectly goes through all the chords!
GOOD GRAVY THAT'S MAJESTIC!! GOOD JOB!!!
this is really amazing dude!
this is the coolest thing
I remember watching you work on this! Super cool to see how it turned out, it sounds awesome.
damn that's very nice.
Very good!
Makes me think of Annihilation, which had a fantastic soundtrack
I was recently talking to a buddy about Annihilation. I am not quickly impressed by movies but that one stood out to me, I need to watch it again. I re-listened to the whole soundtrack, I agree, great stuff.
@@benyamind yeah it's time i revisit that movie again. You ever here the Hereditary ost by Colin Stetson? Or any of Colin's work in the last 5 years. Might fascinate you. His thing is more extended technique and texture than additional tones, but figured I'd throw it out there! Cheers
Very Voices-of-the-Void-ey
Beautiful!!!!!!!
damn bro make sumn ambient dnb rn im all for it
ua-cam.com/video/0vP0c1Oj89Q/v-deo.html
Great!
This made me feel.
Just discovered 31tet, this is amazing! How do you do set up more than 12 notes per octave? Is there a video you could point me to?
Sure thing!
I mostly use Kontakt. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
This one from Sevish is also helpful: ua-cam.com/video/WxrpZ4L404M/v-deo.html
@@benyamind goat, thank you
holy shit... where am I... what is this... how is this...
Nice hehe
BREATHTAKING
Yóu're breathtaking! - Keanu Reeves
hollow knight snail shamman vibes
Some of those chords hit hard, dude, @1:00, @1:25, @3:08, 3:14, 3:18. Yes I love the more consonant ones.
Glad you enjoy this stuff!
That is awesome
Ladder progression!
holy shit
reminds me of Amnesia: The Dark Descent. good stuff!
this is some silent hill stuff
Hot
This piece would have been killer if it had been the theme to the Forerunner relics, like the Ark.
Balm for the ears. 🧶
Spunds rad!
Can I have link to the stream with sevish you mentioned in the description?
Thank you! The stream was an in the moment thing, it's not online.
This is crazy! How was this done on FL studio??!
ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
Sounds like ps2 startup sound
Noice
Hey, sir, you just reminded me Max Corbacho
This is really cool! How do you set up different tuning systems in fl studio? I'd imagine it would be very tedious and inconvenient.
Nowadays there are many options with different synths. My go to is Kontakt. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
otherwordly and amazing! May I ask what are the plugins used? (especially for the choral)
Most of it is from Kontakt. Its factory library and also from the Ethno World 6 library. I stack quite a few pads in this piece to obtain power but also to get a lot of details in the appearance of the sound. There are also automations going on to open up the sensation.
Thank you!
@@benyamind nice method. Ethnoword is a classic, recently I installed Mysteria which has automations built in and great chorales but it has issues with microtuning it seems 😑
Wow
Humans, beyond helpless, smaller than tiny, we watch and we don't understand.
Human souls ripped from their bodies, floating in a place beyond touch, watching angels and demons rush towards the earth to fight the last and largest battle that will ever be fought.
Humans, watching from the void. Stars between your fingers when you reach out. Flames growing, and you can do nothing. Jacob Collier is there, playing a... it looks like a trombone, but it has fur. The Ender Dragon screams. The earth breaks in half. You start to vibrate, and all of the cosmos is filled with water. The water tastes like neon green and purple and a memory from your childhood that you long ago convinced yourself was not real. Salt crystals grow on your hands and you start falling upwards and forwards, approaching the speed of light. You swing around a center of force you dare not look at, and you know that it is God. The man beside you looks up and is vaporized. You keep looking down. Every plant to ever live is dragged through the water like a streak of paint. Trillions of green needles in the deep blue void, but the sun is rising, deep blue turning to cyan, and bubbles form on your skin. You are shaken impossibly hard and the ground of a new world rises to meet your feet at a speed beyond terror.
impact.
You have a talent for writing!
I don’t know why, but what I feel is pain, literal pain. Don’t take me wrong, I love experimental music, but this tuning system physically hurts me.
That's ok. A part of the exploration is finding out how people react to it. With 31 I can experience an ease, but also the discomfort you experience. It depends on the usage. I don't particularly like 31 when it's trying to do 12-tone music, but I like it a lot when you go deeper into its structures.
Reminds me of Steve Roach.
Feels (sounds) like Zelda.
Zelda on shrooms
How do you even come up wqith something as nice as this? How long have you been composing microtonal stuff ? Do you have any videos to help us start learning how to do it too?
Glad you enjoy it. I've been making microtonal music for a good 5 years now (time flies). I guess the key things in music are passion, effort and time.. As I am so passionate about it I keep investing time into at. At some point you get to this point where a lot of stuff becomes intuitive rather than a conscious process.
So right here you could view this as a very complicated web of chords. But realistically, I just closely listen to a chord by itself, then how it relates to the chords it connects to, and then how it sounds in the bigger pictures. Also, these chords all started out rather simple, and then get more dense as I am building. For years I've worked with cluster chords so my ear is used to this process. I try not to overcomplicate it. If I don't feel it's quite right in the moment, I trust myself to hear what's bugging me next day. Taking a break gives you a fresh ear.
I feel like a lot of (theory/production) stuff in music can be overwhelming, but in the end music comes from your inner. So trust your creative being and just keep going. You should hear my first beats from more than a decade ago lol!
Here's a video I made on how to microtune in Kontakt:
ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
And a video where I introduce you to 17-tone equal temperament:
ua-cam.com/video/LiMrUBo3qeQ/v-deo.html
Thanks for your interest!
This should be the real Dune soundtrack. Hans is too lame. It does not make sense to use 12TET in SF movies in future.
100%
more
Show me what you got
Hi, i would love to know how did you implement this microtonal piano roll to your fl studio? I'm looking around hoping to find some kind of microtonal software but can't find anything alike
I mostly use Kontakt to go microtonal. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
This video from Sevish is also helpful to introduce you to the possibilities out there: ua-cam.com/video/WxrpZ4L404M/v-deo.html
Can you do a lil how to video for microtonal stuff in FL studio? I imagine there are a few ways of doing it, curious what you did here
This is my main method: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
2:41
5/5
👍i LoVe !
💙⚪❤
if I wanted to create music like this, could I do it just by placing notes randomly until I like it? because music theory is really confusing looking
I'd say theory is just a consequence, so yes, go for it!
everything reminds me of ENA
How do you get the piano roll to be microtonal?
Also was coming up with the chords music theory or just feel?
I tune synths. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
Regarding your second question: I'd say it's a mix of theory and feel. The theory side for me is not so much the theory of western harmony but more about exploring harmonics and how to create a stabile sensation through understanding intervallic relations. You can get away with the weirdest things because the most absurd types of dissonance can create novel consonant structures in the right contexts.
With this said, I think the 'feel' side of things is often more important. Theory to me is a consequence, not a cause. The more I free myself from right or wrong, the more I can just drift off into inner space.
Thanks for listening!
@@benyamind Thanks for responding to my questions!
Literally all my music is feel, I tried to find out what scale one of my songs is in and turns out I invented a new scale that isn't in any form of music lol. I think its often good but I do struggle with stuff like chord progressions from not knowing theory.
Why would you do this to me
SOMEBODY PLEASE SLAP A BREAKCORE BEAT ON THIS
There's gonna be a dnb version on my upcoming album.
What is the workflow to reproduce xenscales in FL Studio?
I mostly work with the VST Kontakt. Here's a tutorial I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html
dude how the hell do you do this
Synth & preset?
It'd be cool to hear a version with just standard strings or something so we could hear the notes better. It's so washed out with all the reverb the uniqueness of the tuning and massive chords is hard to appreciate fully.
I understand your sentiment. I was going for a big spatial sensation but you do sacrifice in terms of clarity.
Why the first 30 seconds were like SpongeBob's opening but 800% slower?
how do you set up 31 TET in a DAW? I've been trying to figure it out for days
I mostly use the VST Kontakt to go microtonal. Here's a guide I made on how to microtune in Kontakt: ua-cam.com/video/DcWtlF2uJSY/v-deo.html