Asking Reddit If You're Ugly
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2023
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An 18 year old rattling off several plastic surgeries she wants to get followed up by “to start with” is concerning. And expensive.
Was gonna comment this, I've got other priorities too like damn
Concerning to whom? You? 🤔 who cares let them botch themselves and look like balloon animals 🤷🏽♂️
no matter the age it is concerning too
People don't care tho. That happens in kpop but all thst happens is more white people think they are korean
beauty is marketed to afabs from birth, basically. seeing this type of thing is unfortunately very common :(
Honestly asking strangers online to rate your looks sounds like digital self-harm
it is' tbh these sites are not helpful.
That’s exactly what it is on some subs
true. Back in my day we used pro-ED Tumblr at its peak popularity for that. What a weird time.
I give far more honest rating than wheat waffles without charging any money
High functioning masochism
reddit is OBSSESSED with insulting women's appearances under the veil of "humbling them" or "being brutally honest", there's a whole other subreddit for rating women from 1-10 and the most gorgeous women i've ever seen end up rated as threes and fours, and i'm not fucking joking when any rating over a SIX gets automatically marked by mods as "overrating" 💀
Pretty sure youre talking about r/truerateme , and yeah it's a fcking cesspool 💀
I posted myself once for shits and giggles and someone messaged me telling me that I was a 4 but that he would like to give me tips. I said, "no thanks. Im not sure I value your opinion." He called me a stupid ugly bitch and guess which one of us was banned from reddit for "harassment."
I realized that it was rage bait to get women banned so I put on a fuck ton of make up, a slight filter, push up bra, a purple wig, took pics and posted them in the same group. I knew it would get a loooot of attention because if incels hate anything, its women getting attention. Especially women in make up and colored hair. So I used all of that attention to warn women in those groups that incels will bait them into being rude so they can get them banned.
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Men love to humble women. I think it makes them feel powerful. See: Keke Palmer's boyfriend
Honestly that just sounds like they don't like women.
@@justanotherperson7416 i mean it is reddit so
I'm a fan of r/ToastMe (the opposite of r/RoastMe). Folks who post there are in a low place and need a good boost from friendly Redditors. A small compliment can go a long way.
r/freecompliments is good too. 😊
I needed to hear about those, honestly amiugly just makes me feel gross. I was on there to help people and maybe just compliment them. I did suggest a hair cut cuz this one guy had a terrible cut and I figured he needed to know. I tried to be nice tho, unlike most of that sub
@@sheriffvader6908that sub is so toxic
omg that is so sweet, bless you for sharing this insight.
another good one is, I think (I havent used reddit in a long time) r/congratslikeimfive which is a nice place to go if you'd like some other people to cheer you on for your accomplishments, even if they're small ones! I don't know how it's doing nowadays but I remember it being a nice little community to celebrate wins with.
I'm over here repeating my mantra,
"Other people's opinions of me are none of my business."
Comparison is truly the thief of joy.
I hope you feel cute as hell out there today strangers.
Absolutely, I was just thinking about this. People's opinions on your looks literally do not matter, why does it matter if other people think you're pretty?
I do! Thank. I need to refresh my wardrobe tho 😮
That's something my mom always says. "What other people think of me is none of my business." It really helped me through a lot of my most insecure moments.
@@distinctcomet3 It does matter though. If the majority of people find you butt ugly, your chances of finding a partner is low. Companionship is directly tied to your mental and physical health. Also, lookism is real, people treat you worse if they don't like your face. The well being of your life depends on the way people see you.
@@andrewgodly5739 I'm going to disagree, but wish you a great evening
As a Black woman, I could never do this. Wouldn’t be able to tell if it was honesty or blatant racism.
Knowing the types of people who frequent these subreddits it'll definitely just be racism
knowing reddit, it'd be racism.
Just dont do it, chicka. Those ppl live to be trolls
On truerateme, it's "objective" rating systems is entirely based on white European facial aesthetics. The actual system is racist.
@@Xankek Big facts fuck those ppl lol
some of the look rating subreddits are actually insane. in one the mods give you a warning every time you give someone higher than a 6. and i just know that those mods aren’t above a 3 themselves 💀💀💀
i think you're thinking of r/truerateme which honestly is such a fever dream. I know for a fact you can smell the mods from 10 miles away
I hate the fact that people are rated on a fuckin number scale in the first place
Total smokeshow baddie redhead babe: "Rate me!"
Some guy: "7.7"
Mods: "Stop lying to this uggo, you're banned."
@@MelloYello277 This. Rating by numbers is incredibly crude. Boiling down dozens of factors, implicit biases learned from growing up in whichever society, social pressure, etc to a single number is, to say the least, damaging individually, socially, as well as reinforcing whatever pre-existent biases exist at the time. No bueno.
Do you really think it's helpful to stop people who are using a superficial rating system for attractiveness by using the same superficial rating system to call them ugly?
It's funny when the straight dudes of the subreddit clearly upvote pictures of pretty girls while downvoting the ugly ones, and then whining about how only pretty girls come here for attention.
yup.
The people who upload and the people trolling are both stupid tbh.
Tbh reddit is just weird for me, I couldn't last 2 months on the app
@@willyfrankenstein6595yeah I have 3 deleted accounts lol
I actually do the opposite (vote the pretty girls down and the supposed ugly girls up).......... then confront the fact that the pretty girl came there for compliments.
I coincidentally also came across this sub last night, and I was so saddened to see some people just being absolutely cruel. You should’ve highlighted one of the posts with a trans person. It gets insanely toxic, with the most hate-filled vitriol being spewed. I spent a couple hours literally just going through and giving people (genuine) compliments to balance out the users that were going through and just insulting everyone. Also, the amount of creepy old dudes giving underage girls advice on their looks was disgusting.
Literally, that whole sub is for mediocre men to insult insecure women to feel better about themselves
i hate it!! thank you for trying to do nice ;-; its appreciated
I remember I was on there and seeing people being ugly towards people just for the hell of it. I was on there trying to be helpful and tell people they're not ugly. Cuz alot of them really aren't. But they people just being hateful? Theyre not posting either, they're probably uglier then hell, definitely on the inside. Then again most redditors are shit, most interactions I've had were pretentious or just vile.
@@cactus2260not only women, they'll attack each other too. Honestly I've seen them try and flirt with these women more than bully them but I've seen that too
@@sheriffvader6908 the pretty women get told they just want attention, they don't give attention to the ugly or average women, and if they do it's to "humble them" and bring their self esteem down.
Hot take: it's okay to want validation. You just need to try and cultivate relationships where you can get approval or praise outside of a weird toxic subreddit. But if you want your friends or partner or whoever to tell you you're pretty, that's not a weird shameful thing, and moments where you feel insecure and uncomfortable with yourself shouldn't feel like dirty secrets.
Thanks for this. So much I feel like wanting validation and feeling insecure is wrong and shameful (which just makes me feel more insecure ironically).
I even see people say to learn to live only with internal validation, but for most people it's a genuine need. We are social creatures and need outside influence to feel like we matter
Well said!
I posted once and it's not about validation, it's about wanting the truth! I felt like if I knew that I was ugly then I could look into surgery or something
I swear, the amount of free hate those people give to every piercing, tattoo, or anything they don't like is nauseating. You're not entitled to women catering only to your trad wife kink
YES!!! They despise piercings/tattoos on women
I have a tattoo and piercing kink.
bodily autonomy is only cool when men do it
The best ones are the ones like the commenter. "I've been thinking about getting a 1 inch tattoo for 5, 10, 20, 30 years...". No one cares. If you're that hung up on debating it for that long you're never going to take the plunge.
everybody these days has some sort of piercing or tattoo or some other bullshit so i agree with those people
I used to go on these subreddits quite often because my body dysmorphia is cruel and often controls how I go about my day to day life, as well as how I perceive myself. Whenever I felt confident, I would go to these subreddits and ask people what they thought of me so I could go back to feeling shit about myself. I couldn't allow myself to feel confident and these subreddits do a great job of ruining your self esteem.
It's often hard to remember, but we have to remind ourselves that beauty is subjective and not everyone shares the same opinion in what they find attractive. I see so many people on those subreddits get torn apart and I can't imagine how many people have had their self confidence ruined because of it
Yeah I saw this subreddit about some sort of objective qualification of faces, and the more posts I saw on my front page the more judgmental I became about others. Quickly realized that rabbit hole will only end up with self-loathing and muted the sub and would recommend others to do the same.
It is actually so upsetting. I wouldn’t dare post a pic of me bcs the beautiful women I see post on there are rated low and I know compared to them I would be a negative 2 lol
thanks for sharing. My body dysmorphia is the reason I don't post on these subreddits. Even if people said I looked good I wouldn't believe them so there's no point
@@Em-gj2sg people would tell me I look good and I didn't believe them at all. I would only look at the negatives
@@PippitoRegina George voice]
Oh, so you think you look good?? 🤔🤔
Jk jk!! I think everyone should feel like they look good. It's Difficult tho.
And then I still know people who claim to hate fatphobia but will say "oh she gained weight" with That Tone of Voice. And it's like ok.... Uhm.. what am I supposed to say, I thought we hated fatphobia in this household 🧍🏽🧍🏽🧍🏽
Edit- also it's hard for me to not dwell on negative stuff people say to me too. Doesn't make you a big baby or anything, it's ok to not like people insulting you
I almost cried this morning when I saw a teen asking if she needed a nose job and if she was ugly. Everyone begged her to seek help, but that she even made the post was tragic.
♥️hold up you’re also a fan of this emoji?
I'll rate you a 1.
This reminds me of the Contrapoints video Incels, where she mentions that similar to incels doing rate me threads, she used to go to the lgbt board on 4chan (colloquially referred to as tttt bc its mainly trans ppl or ppl thinking of transitioning). Similar to the incel threads, tttt was full of internalised transphobia and self hatred, some of it even directed at Contrapoints directly. Yet she couldn't stop looking at them, similar to how incels couldn't stop submitting thenselves to the rate me thread, fully knowing they'll get shredded to pieces.
Contrapoints mentions that it was a strange kind of masochism, where reading those things would only confirm her darkest insecurities that she couldn't pass as female (similar to how incels want to confirm their incel status as ugly unfuckable losers).
I think its a similar situation here, and somewhat close to depression content on tiktok etc. People are insecure, and gg into the lions den of rate me reddit knowing full well they'll get given a 2 weirdly feels good, as it confirms your deepest darkest insecurities. Theres a strange kind of relief there if you're told no one will love you for how you look, bc hope can be depressing, and "accepting reality" is liberating because you know the "truth" and hence can wallow in your sadness.
Tldr; get off these places people, if you feel good reading them work on your insecurity.
Well said
Yes.
There needs to be a word to encapsulate this phenomenon. A word for ‘Feeling pleasure from getting a validation on an insecurity whether true or false.’ Is there a word for it or close to it?
@@daralic2255 the word contrapoints used was "epistemic masochism", which is treating whatever hurts the most is true. So if I'm profoundly insecure abt my looks, the most degrading insults about how ugly I am automatically becomes what i believe. Its a good word, even if i think it doesn't capture the core insecurity behind it.
This is me in this comment section, I just argue and disagree with people because it feeds my insecurities and it's the only way I feel I can talk about this stuff anymore
I don't even like Noah. I hate seeing his face. But I keep coming back to these videos because for some reason it feels comforting
I'll never forget 6-7 years ago now i went on this incel "rate me" forum. It was so depressing cause being brutally honest some of them were not conventionally attractive, but most of them are were normal - good looking dudes. Saying this as a man who is unfortunately attracted to men 😂. I tried to tell some of them they looked fine or give constructive pointers and they just got mad me. It was really sad.
They have gnarly body dysmorphia with narcissistic entitlement on top of that.
@@Pleebian94yeah you can't fix them. At least not easily
@@t_ylrconstructive criticism flies in the face of everything they believe. If there’s something they can do about it; something that’s within their control, that must mean that it’s not actually women’s fault.
Edit: Grammar
Why unfortunately 😭 bottoms are ok
@@RyuKyu.77I was just joking lmao
As a trans dude, my dysphoria would get me killed if I posted on there. Like others said, they are ruthless against trans people.
Tbh, I never understood the point of these subreddits...it's like watching people willingly throw themselves into a lion den because they were told the violence they'd experience was the only way to see the world.
I hate it when people value "honesty", or "brutal honesty", which, in my opinion, is simply a justification for being cruel and unhealthily dealing with your own personnal problems. Being honest on the spot is not always what someone needs. It's why there's a difference between normal and constructive criticism.
How do I even begin on how damaging it is for people to be judged on an international scale? How some people forget that this subject is, well, subjective? I'm an artist and full on pansexual, so it tears my heart apart seeing people getting told so many mean things for the sake of "honesty" when I think that, yes, maybe, they don't look like Brad Pitt, but man do they have such sincerity in their eyes, or how cute their smile can be.
People also forget that they don't see you when, let's say, you get to pet a puppy, when you wear warm clothes fresh out the dryer on a cold winter day, when you're concentrating on your hobby, or even when you're with people you love. They don't know you. They may look at you, but they don't SEE you.
As corny as it may sound, there's someone for everyone. And it IS true, trust me. You're someone's type. It hurts not being everyone's, but there are some out there. Please be kind to others, but also to yourself.
Thanks for posting!
Yeah, as someone with dysphoria, I couldn't imagine posting here. Even if people complimented me it would make me feel awful. For people without dysphoria, what might be "brutally honest" from some people might not be true for others, especially in these cases. It's just a guise to be needlessly cruel to people, which was for the most part not shown in the video.
This is such a beautiful comment. The little things you see people do and say and how they react are what makes them special.
Trans woman, appreciate your post
I know for a fact that I am, unfortunately, quite some people's type. Problem is, all those people are cisgender men, and those are attracted to semi-decomposed corpses and animals, so... not exactly, um, "quality" audience.
Also, I never understood this Brad Pitt thing. Where is he the standard of beauty? He's ugly!
When I was a 16yo girl I was superrrr insecure so I posted on there. Deleted the post after half a day though because I got DOZENS of private message requests from grown men asking me out. Including a handful of explicit ones. Furthermore, most of those guys went out of their way to say they lived in a country where I would be legal. Didn't accept any of them bc I knew better but the amount of grown adults on that sub that were so quick to prey on an insecure teenager is genuinely concerning
this made me remember i still have that reddit account and so i can still access the messages and comments from before i deleted the post, BUT THOSE MFS WERE CALLING ME HOT???????????????? A CHILD??????????? even giving me number ratings/10 like.. there were some genuinely not creepy comments though so woo
also for some context, not that it matters but even though i wore makeup i still very much looked unmistakably my age if not a tiny bit younger bc i have softer features for the most part. also i’m half east asian half white so some of the comments also really felt it necessary to comment on my race in borderline fetishizing/orientalist ways which is so uwu of them lolz. love reddit!
that's absolutely awful and sadly reddit has been like this for as long as I can remember. there's quite a lot of porn on reddit (first it was stuff like r/gonewild and now people are advertising their onlyfans), which definitely brings in a lot of absolute creeps to the site. back in the day there was also the infamous r/jailbait, which was eventually banned, but I'm certain that some of those fucking creeps still frequent the site. I've seen quite a lot of older men (like 40-60s) on the site too and even subreddits for meeting up for sex. therefore I do think that reddit overall is not a good place for minors, unless you strictly stick to well moderated subreddits and ones meant only for younger people like r/teenagers, although any decent subreddit should at minimum have moderation to the extent that sexualizing minors in the comments always leads to a ban from said subreddit.
chat requests and private messages have always been an absolute shitshow on reddit for some reason, so there is no harm at all in completely disabling them from the start, unless you actually enjoy getting stuff like rape threats. the variety of subreddits is huge, so you can easily get comments from genuinely nice people, horny older men and angry racist incels on the same post, while the private messages will as a rule be far worse. some of the subreddits are very insular and filled with toxic assholes, who occasionally escape containment into other subreddits, but the mods don't always care or in the worst cases agree with them. all the worst subreddits I can remember have been banned, but there are probably new ones and the users themselves might still lurk around.
newcomers don't usually come into contact with the seedier side of reddit, so they don't understand, what kind of crowd can be looking at their pictures. I think most of the creeps avoid breaking the rules of a subreddit in the comments and save the worst stuff for private messages, since moderators don't usually want their subreddit to get banned for allowing too much clearly visible creepiness. private messages are by default enabled with everyone, so you can get unsolicited dick pics just by stating that you are female somewhere and minors are no exception. I can only imagine, what kind of shit the women posting their nudes can get, if their private messages are enabled, since even the ones selling content only answer messages on their onlyfans or somewhere else instead of reddit itself.
same bruh
People put others down to boost their own ego
The state of society is sad
That is reddit in a nutshell. Also that sub, like it's got the worst case for it
People been doing that shit since some people could force other people to get their hands dirty while they chilled and looked pretty tbh
The worst part of this is that the ego boost is ultimately illusory; It inherently creates suffering. It harms the one doing the harm, and the one being harmed. Enough people cope with negativity poorly enough that it can easily 10x the initial insult. This is magnified when dealing with social media, where one tweet from someone goes viral and harms a massive number of people.
I truly hope people grow to understand that behind the screen is a real person that is more like you than unlike you.
Maybe less-so with the quantity and quality of bots rising, but still.
But it works. Look at the Republican Party and how many of them win elections. Its literally their only campaign strategy.
@@sheriffvader6908 It's a lot of places in general. There are people doing it in this very comment section
Some advice for those who are considering "bucal fat removal": DON'T DO IT UNTIL YOU'RE OLDER. If you remove it when you're young, you're going to look emaciated and older than you are once you grow up. I recommend Edvasian's video on the topic. Be aware of the risks!
Or just don’t do it at all, wanting cosmetic plastic surgery is indicative of serious insecurity and it’s a horrible way to deal with it because it won’t ever satisfy
Buccal fat removal will be bad at any age, I think. It will always age you when you get older
Or maybe don't do it at all. If you just do a google search for "buccal fat" all of the first things that pop up are warnings and testimonials from people who deeply regretted having it removed.
@@LocoGeorge123 There are cosmetic cases where it is purely practical and a net-positive to well-being. It is also true that the vast majority of cosmetic surgery is done due to harmful standards, many of which condemns people who did nothing wrong except be born. Skin lightening and double eyelid procedures being two that come to mind. In this society, it's inherently harmful, and the "promise" behind ~98%+ of cosmetic surgeries are ultimately an illusion that only creates more suffering, however, there are still people who have genuine need and gain genuine benefit from it.
@@LocoGeorge123 Tell em you're not ugly without telling me you're not ugly
"hey reddit am i ugly?"
'1000% yes'
"god damn it"
Lol in my early 20's I was out at a bar and two men came up unprompted to tell me that I'd "be a 9" if I lost the septum piercing. These ridiculous threads reminded me of that.
*wears piercing harder* 😑
I don't get the hate about septum piercings but most of the time I see that from people who say "dress normal"
I like piercings and tattoos, which means that I clearly have to start commenting on pictures of random women that they look bad, if they are not tattooed and pierced. I mean I guess I could do that, if I was actually concerned with the way other people look, but it's just so much easier to not give a fuck.
I had never thought of myself as attractive until like two years ago at age 25 because I hadn’t been treated like a “pretty girl.”
Men really think we’re swimming in attention all the time and we’re.. we’re just not
Truth. A couple of my male friends are always complaining that they wish they could get attention like I do, or that it could be so easy to find a date, but I honestly don't get that much attention, unless you count being harassed on the street by sun baked old men who need a bath. I find dates easily because I'm nice to people, something that the guys who complain about that don't consider.
@@J_Lynn Not to be That Guy, but plenty of people cannot find dates easily no matter how nice they are to others. I'd guess that for probably a majority of people, it's not that simple.
@@J_Lynn Out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say "find dates"? Like, on a dating app, where it's a mutual thing, or are men asking you out more now?
Me too. I never gotten positive male attention no fucking where. Nearly all my childhood I had been bullied countless times by guys and had guys ask me out and flirt with me as a joke as it obliterated my self esteem to the point where I dont trust guys when they compliment me and I avoid contact with them a majority of times. I'm trying to get away from that but its a struggle right now. I would kill to get positive male attention for once in my life cause I want to know what it feels like to actually be wanted and to have guys genuinely interested in you.
@@divestdreamerI will say that honestly, positive male attention is rarely worth it. They're rarely genuine and even more rarely actually kind, it's definitely conditional. I did clubs that were just statistically more male-dominated and the level of kindness I would get was genuinely dependent on how good I looked that day. It was incredibly demeaning and fucking sucked, and while I understand it's "not all men blah blah blah" it's absolutely enough and has caused me to almost completely distrust them as a whole. Honestly, it's very hard to find genuinely kind and good people as a whole, and I hope you can someday. Until then, know you're very beautiful and deserve to be treated well, things can get better and they do.
Didn’t Reddit, but it’s on my list!
KEEP YOURSELF SAFE.
Being physically attractive also depends on things you can easily change about yourself like, clothing (style and color), hair, makeup, tattoos/piercing, etc.
This. Every person, unless they have severe physical deformities, can be at least a 5 (physically) if they put a little effort into grooming themselves and working on their sense of style.
I strongly believe the conbination of attributes matters as much as the attributes themselves.
Yeah let me go get a tattoo so other people will find me attractive, great advice man.
@@mrcroob8563dumb comment
@@trinodot8112 I think teeth can be a big part too. If you got rotten stumps most people will find you unattractive.
As someone who is not conventionally attractive nothing pisses me off more than how the beauty industry has convinced absolutley gorgeous people that they are so hideous that they need surgery. Seething with rage over it, ESPECIALLY seeing people reccomending specific surgeries to the prettiest person I've seen in the past month on these kinds of subreddits. I saw one post where this stunning woman was convinced she needed rhinoplasty and eye surgery, but in reality she was conditioned by every piece of United States media that Asian features aren't desirable. It's just sad that even if you were born pretty there will always be someone prettier to kick you down.
😂 I’m also a burn victim and the “roasted” comment was great 😂😂 I was told I was the “hottest girl in town”… which stung a bit because it was from a friend of the person who set me on fire, but removing that context, it’s almost as funny as the “roasted” comment
C-can I…I want to ask what the heck happened but I’m not owed the story but like…set me on fire…I am SO curious as well as horrified
sorry but the way you phrased this is extraordinary, just you know that one person who set me on fire, that little prankster
@@yourdad3275 😂😂😂😂
@@shirin9452 bad husband in 2006. He’s in prison (for meth now 😂)
@@anarchyneverdies3567 woah! That's crazy. Just glad you can have a laugh about it now... 🥺
I went on amiugy because my self esteem is terrible and I figured all those around me were lying. They just called me fat which I’m already aware I am.
@@choccy_bagelthey're self loathing fat people who hate other fat people. You can't tell me most redditors aren't fat. I'm on reddit and I'm fat too lmao
Degradation fetish?
I feel like the people accusing the more conventionally attractive girls of lying aren't considering that there are other factors besides just how you look that play into your chances. (For reference this is irl experience, I've never used dating apps and don't trust them) I don't think I'm ugly but I have bad posture and visibly autistic mannerisms like subtle stimming or speaking strangely, people would ignore me or even sometimes mock me or react with disgust towards me. A recent study has shown that neurotypical people can tell that we're autistic (although they may not consciously realize it) and are less likely to want to interact with us for it. We are seen as gross perpetual children stuck in an adults body, unless you are very outgoing and good at masking you're going to have a rough time finding people who don't think you're a freak lol
suicide fuel
@@verbatim3752 nah man u just have to find other ppl like you. I hang out with other autistic people and Ive been way happier for it, we all understand eachother. Now that I have them the idea of hanging out with the nts is just unappealing, lol. If they judge me they were never worth my time to begin with
When I was like 14 I used to post on a plastic surgery subreddit to find out what procedures people thought I needed lol
Shit... and did people reply to your posts? xddd
I'll give you a..10/10. Pretty dark chocolate colored eyes, not a big blonde hair fan but yours pairs nicely with your skin tone and brings out your natural beauty without needing makeup, perfect eyebrows, nice nose shape, very doll-like face and aesthetic, foreheads a little big but it's not a dealbreaker
@@SunshineBakeryYumYumPinapple thank you but I actually didn’t ask for your opinion but I appreciate the 10/10 lol :)
@@neburarerreh4958 Yh it was a whole subreddit for that purpose where people would tell you what your “flaws” are and how to “fix” them and it was mostly just insecure teenage girls like I was with the people commenting on how they could improve being older men and women
@@mothmanlol6263girl his comment was weird as hell but I am curious what color are your eyes
One of the incel killers posted on one of these forums. People actually were pretty positive and gave him very normal advice like "get a haircut, trim your beard, and smile more". But when you're that far gone, no amount of positive internet comments will help you.
'smile more'
Weird how it's ok to say this to guys but when you say it to women it's misogyny (not saying you should say it women)
@@painunending4610 I don't think it's unreasonable advice to give to anyone who is actively seeking help for being more approachable. But it is always a rude thing to say to someone who is not seeking that advice. Usually women who complain about being told to smile more are saying that is random people at work or in the grocery store who are saying this to them. I have never seen a woman complaining about being told to smile more in the context of her actively seeking advice on improving her appearance. And I think it is very disingenuous of you to conflate the two situations.
@@annamidkiff2460 Well shit I am a disingenuous type motherfucker
@@painunending4610 Come on, dude, you can't pretend to not understand the discrepancy here. There's a difference between telling men who refuse to smile for photos that they should smile in their photos when they literally asked you for feedback and telling a random woman minding her business and walking down the street that she needs to smile.
@@TheSkyHazCloudz There shouldn't be a difference. Men and women should be treated as equal
Also the expectation to be happy and smiling all the time is toxic
You underestimate how stupid I actually am
the Smooth Skin remark is from the Fallout series of games, in which radiation deformed people called ghouls call non-ghouls smooth skins
Is this because of that meme where people who rated women "too high" were banned from the reddit?
It's not a meme. It's a thing that happens in r/truerateme
@@dangerxbadger2300 Well, yes, but screenshots getting shared around are all 'memes' to me.
I am old.
They get banned for not following the rules, they think it's about personal opinion when it's actually supposed to be based off of guide. There's also repercussions for rating too low. They're too dense to read the rules.
@@toppersundquist then you just don't understand what that word means
@@belalugosisdead4444 If there's a rubric, why do people post scores at all? The person posting the image can just look themselves up in the rules.
I just feel like this is really sad tbh. Like its clear that most people are just really unsecure, and unless you're the most perfectly conventionally attractive person, it's just a bunch of people commenting their own(often really gross) opinions, which isn't helpful for anyone.
i got called a "vegan 40%er" defending an enby on this subreddit
I got off the internet for a few weeks and it took me a solid few minutes to understand what that meant
Anyone who uses “left bad” insults like that has the brain of a wet sponge, and that’s being generous.
@@passionate_possum_pal i had to ask like three reddits what that shit meant too
What tf is a “vegan 40%-er”?
@@sarahb.8890 on many corners of the internet, Reddit included, vegan is seen as a virtue signal / synonymous with an sjw. Anytime somebody calls you a vegan derogatorily, they are probably comparing you to someone like the vegan teacher.
40%er is a dog whistle referencing the 40% of trans people who attempt or succeed in ending their own lives, it's used by people as an insult to trans people, like I've been told "you're probably a 40%er"
I thought this was gonna be about “r/truerateme,” which has been getting some attention on Twitter lately because the mod responds to every positive rating of a woman (and none of the male ones) that they’re breaking the rules by overrating and giving them a strike out of three for each time they do that. So it’s basically just guessing what the mod’s personal rating is and giving him an excuse to belittle the women there.
A lot of the women are also just plain gorgeous, even by traditional beauty standards. It’s clearly just some guy who gets a kick out of making beautiful women who are likely out of his league feel insecure.
I'm pretty sure that r/truerateme rated Liv Tyler 5/10 so that tells you everything you need to know about what the goal of the subreddit is. The whole point is to underrate women to make them feel worse about themselves. It's obvious the mods are neckbeards. Only incels would waste their life moderating an internet forum for rating people's looks lol
I'm not gay but I'll give you a...10/10
This reminds me of the subreddit “r/Trurateme”which is basically another community to evaluate strangers’ online looks. (Idk if it’s still around. Haven’t been there in years) They even had a 1-10 attractiveness chart filled with celebrities and other random people, so they could be more “objective.” The users also got unreasonably mad whenever anyone (most likely a woman) was rated above a 6 and it was like against the rules to rate people too highly.
I think this sub also had a large overlap with black pill communities. For some reason, incel communities seem to be really obsessed with ranking people by their totally “objective” and “scientific” attractiveness scales.
It’s been suggested to people a bunch recently due to the mod strike. That sub is so upsetting.
Truerateme has a ban on incel terminology, BUT I agree that the fundamental premise of "objectively and scientifically" rating looks is very incel-adjacent (not to mention scientifically dubious). People probably just use those terms elsewhere anyway.
The third of these subreddits, Rateme, is the only one where the rules specifically prohibit harassment of trans people.
Which is an improvement, no doubt, but it's still polishing a turd seeing as how the basic premise is so toxic.
I think something that makes a huge difference in community atmosphere is the presence of experts. For example, the Quoves studio YT/subreddit/discord is lead by facial aesthetics experts and plastic surgeons who actually know what they're talking about regarding facial attractiveness. I've been frequenting their various platforms and in my experience it's the healthiest place to get constructive and accurate feedback on your appearance. It may be a bit niche for most people, but I like that kind of thing lol
A lot of incels are really infected with hierarchal thinking
This happens an unfortunate amount. People on the bottom of the hierarchal want to be at the top instead of destroying the hierarchy entirely and liberating themselves
it's like everyone who can't be normal got in a room together
The most mentally unhealthy decided to get together and see who is the biggest loser in a self loathing contest. Incels in a nutshell...
Sometimes I sort of wish I knew if strangers think I'm pretty since I'm also an insecure young woman but I would never try this on Reddit because I think that would just make me sad. That first girl is insanely cute and she has similar thoughts about herself to me so for a second I was like "Oh maybe I'm pretty too" but then a second later I was like nah lol. I've been told I'm pretty a few times but I always feel like those people were just trying to be nice.
It's entirely subjective. I've been called both super-model hot and butterface. It's not worth worrying about. There will always be people who think you're attractive even if someone else doesn't, and I think that should make ya feel nice. :)
@@J_Lynnthis makes me so happy! I’ve been told I’m gorgeous but I’ve never been treated like a pretty girl and have been called ugly so I was never able to tell. It’s hard to believe in this society, but it really doesn’t matter (or at least it shouldn’t)
don't use reddit, that's when they get ya
Huehhh
I started using it very casually a few months ago for Pokemon S&V tips & tricks and it's def easy sliding down a rabbit hole if you start throwing subs all over the place 😂
@@monopolizedopamine I love Reddit, I get to hear from people that like what I like. You just have to unsub from most of the main subs because they are terrible and are why Redditors have such bad reputations lol.
The Dungeons and Dragons subreddits are generally cool and I’ve met good online friends there. Some subreddits are definitely to be avoided like Gandalf wanted to avoid the Mines of Moria.
I feel like Reddit is 4chans younger brother. It's not as edgy but also filled with shit
Important to note that most of these pictures uploaded of women are from men who know said woman & get off on humiliating them lmao.
Hwhat 😮
@@shirin9452 yeah often times it’s ex bfs, associates or even family members. All of this is more fucked up than you think.
@@chikari123 I think it’s fcked up enough not to engage. But yeah that’s weird. All I can imagine though is some horrible guy posting a pic of his ex and all the guys chiming in to say ugh another pretty girl looking for compliments. You’re obviously hot F off 💀💀💀 that would kill his buzz a bit no
Not totally relevant but apparently they are now going to make it illegal here in the UK to share naked or sexual imagery of someone online without their consent, it could even potentially lead to a prison sentence. First time in a really long time the Tories have done something good. Trouble is I think these redditors will probably continue to get away with this anyway
While the whole concept of being judged by internet randos is deeply problematic, there are similar subreddits where you have to hold up a handwritten note with your username and the name of the subreddit, to ensure that you're actually onboard with it.
10:55 is gold man, the idea of committing to a smile 😭 if you're going to smile, get a grip and fully commit to it hahah
Idk why but ill never ask if im hot. In my head im hot and idgaf im hot and if not that your problem.
i would never post a selfie on Reddit, the comments would be my 13th reason 💀
A friend of mine said to me once "i dont beleive anyone is ugly. Ugly is a bunch of made up bullshit used to make people feel bad". And this really helped me reframe the way I looked atmyself.
i habe that same mindset. even if you think someone is ugly, what about another persons view? No one is UGLY because there’s always someone who doesn’t think that
@@luvvsoph1eI think I will never find that person
I hate looking at myself and couldn't imagine throwing my face out there for other people to judge. Hell I haven't even had my picture taken in like 17 years. I know I'm an ugly bastard and don't need reddit randos giving me a star rating to get the point.
Same.
Hmm, sounds exactly like me. only have one picture of myself from the last like 3 years. I genuinely can’t fathom seeing my friends with 200+ selfies/photos of themselves (but then again they’re pretty).
But these threads are odd if a person is insecure about their face. They will either get positive (which they will believe are mostly lies and be unsatisfied ) or negative feedback (which they will believe and will remain insecure).
As a sub5 guy who get no girls,i can relate.I hate looking myself at mirror
@@Blackpill149if your pfp is you, you look great :-) hope that cheers you up a bit😊
I posted myself on this subreddit when I was 14 or 15 while in the depths of an eating disorder and body dysmorphia, I don’t remember what was said to me but I have a feeling it probably wasn’t great.
An underweight girl that was clearly in the midst of an ED posted there the other day and half the comments said she could lose another 10 lbs. I’ve been thinking about her ever since and what those comments must have done to her. She wasn’t even 18 I don’t think
I'll give you a...zero. Almost a one because the hair is hilariously interesting, but overall a zero
@@SunshineBakeryYumYumPinapple they didn’t ask..??
You’re a -10 because no matter how you look you’re the kind of person who likes to be mean for no reason. That’s what makes you ugly.
Notice how much nicer they are to average looking men compared to attractive women with self-esteem issues?
I'm in my 20s now but in my early-mid teens I would have fallen so hard into this shit. I was so insecure (and deeply mentally ill) that I was about one click away from submitting pictures to onision's rating forum 😭 it was a long journey but I hope everyone who's driven to seek validation from these subreddits finds their way towards a more positive self image. None of them deserve to feel so bad they'll subject themselves to the vitriol of people who also feel terrible about themselves and are also looking to compare their looks to others.
Make my old self kind of appreciate the internet wasn't much of a thing in my early-mid teens
@@parkmannate4154 yeah and I'm so glad social media was still in its early days when I was a kid, I can't imagine how much worse my life would have been if I'd had access to a phone before 12 years old lol
Not the Onion's rating forum 😭When I was 12, I submitted a photo of myself on a forum for his video about the attractiveness of Republicans and Democrats. Thankfully, I didn't end up in the video. I couldn't imagine what would've happened if I was.
@@queenemmers I'm so glad I'm not the only one with onision trauma 😭 there are pictures of me in places I'll never be able to erase but man am I glad that isn't one 😭😭 I'm also so glad on your behalf that you never ended up in a video
OMG I WANTED TO DO IT TOO!! But I was like 12 or 13 😭😭 and I thankfully realized how weird it is that he rates teenagers lol
People on that sub are looking for a ego boost or to be degraded idk which is scarier
I'm kinda disappointed you didn't say at least a few words about the reddit blackout. I'm not sure if you know about it, but reddit is gettin absolutely fucked over, a lot of subreddits closed down, went private, or the reddit admins kicked off the whole mod team. reddit made it impossible to use third party software that most mods used to moderate subreddits and they want people to pay mad money to use the software. a lot of redditors and ex mods are calling for a boycott.
I used to have noticeably asymmetrical cheekbones, the right was flatter than the left. Subtle, but noticeable. I never wanted surgery, but my right cheekbone got broken and the plastic surgeon matched it to my "good" left side and despite the unpleasant situation that caused it, I'm now a lot happier wigh my cheekbones lol.
I'll give you an immediate zero just because you seem very pretentious
Reddit is currently worse than usual because moderators (volunteers) are protesting and leaving all the work to the admins (staff) because of comments made by the CEO including him saying he'll charge an insane amount for the API to kill third party apps - the official Reddit app is terrible for accessibility and has honestly gotten worse since the protests started. They're trying to show them that Reddit is nothing without them and that he needs to listen to the opinions of moderators about the API hike.
I don't want people to be going to Reddit assuming it's usually this awful because it's a really important platform and also I don't want new people to join because the protests are really important.
I'm only still using Reddit right now because there are small support communities that help me a lot with my health issues (which have gotten a lot worse lately) but otherwise I would be staying off of the site until Steve Hoffman realises the impact of what he's doing and that people aren't backing down.
The community is getting worse and worse and that's the point that moderators are trying to prove. It's a complicated situation and I would suggest reading up about it.
If your goal is to avoid people being distracted from your eyes I would absolutely not get a mole on my face surgically removed unless it's cancerous bc that shit leaves a scar and a scar is a lot more noticeable and will draw a lot more attention than a mole. Some people may heal better but it's been like over a year and my scar is still very visible. I personally believe there's nothing wrong with having a scar nor do I think they're ugly but I think the advice of "have a part of your face cut off it will make it less distracting" is dumb lol. Many people find moles attractive anyways
My curiosity overcame me and I posted on r/amiugly. I got a couple no’s, a sexual comment, and THOUSANDS of DM’s asking to fuck. I’m a fresh 18 yr old. It was someone flattering but absolutely not worth the gross feeling from the DMs
Edit: not that it should matter, but there was absolutely no provocative pics. Just selfies
Same lol when I was 16. Half the comments were sexualizing me and half were chastising those who were sexualizing me. And I got DMs for like 2 years afterwards
so sad... and to know that after 25 or 30 you will be old to them is even worse
reddit has been like that for a very long time and I think it's absolutely insane that the DMs are enabled with everyone by default on new accounts.
I comment on this subreddit often because the comments on there are honestly so so fucked and because I don't find conventionally attractive people hot, I feel like I can give genuine and encouraging advice, but I constantly get told that I'm lying because I'm being "too nice". I would say that a large portion of people posting on there are roughly 15-19 and I specifically don't comment on a teen's photos because that is deeply inappropriate, but honestly the amount of creepers that comment is legitimately concerning. I've reported quite a few people.
Back when online dating first started, I signed up for one website and a couple months later the website sent me a letter, in the actual mail, to tell me they didn't have any matches for me and I should just delete my profile. 😅
The top post with the smoothskin comment is a fallout joke. The commenter was saying they look like a ghoul from Fallout.
A lot of these people are suffering from ocd and obsess over their appearance due to the mental illness I was one of these people in hs and it’s basically something your ocd brain can latch onto and obsess over and no one can tell you anything that can make it go away it really sucks
Love the Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind poster
RIP bi sexual lighting 😢
I’ve been told I’m dysmorphic so I wanted to go to one of these pages to see if I really am or if I’m just seeing myself realistically, but I can’t stand the thought of my identity being on Reddit forever
There are like 0% of women who fully believe that they're hot shit all of the time. We're never really allowed to be fully secure in our appearances. Not ever.
Just saying. I don't think any of these women are looking for validation. They might be trying to find an approminate ranking of their hotness, but I doubt literally any of them were like, "I can't wait to see the compliments I get!" More likely, "I hope nobody says anything so mean that I end up thinking about it for the next 12 years."
People posting their face to the internet that think about the negative comments for years shouldn't be using the internet they should be in a therapists office.
ykw at least this reddit seems to understand that beauty is subjective, theres another one where they have a whole word doc with lists n examples of what x/10 s look like and the mods give warnings for rating differently from their incel document
Love all your vids but this deviation is a nice new addition to the repertoire. Keep it up Noah!
babe new noah samsen video drop everything else
I've not completed the video yet, but 'rateme' is awful. You guys should see their 'objective' rating examples! Nina from vampire diaries is a 6.5/10 and keke palmer and brie larson a 5. Its absolute madness their ratings... if they're considered 'average', wtf am I?! Absolute madness this folks
It's because of the men with unrealistic beauty standards lmao. They get off on being mean to them, and makes them feel like they got their just dues.
i love when noah samsen puts youtube poop-style edits in his videos every now and again :)
I just noticed how many uploads you've had in the last couple days!!! Ayeee the producitvity train is going! Enjoying all of em too btw
I’m on the Rent is due Soon train lmaooo
but having fun with it. thank you bro ily
Your vibes were spot on this was one of your funniest in awhile. Adorbs 😊 hope u get some good rest.
Back before I left a certain hellsite, I once told a group of incel folk on a forum post that I'm not some conventionally attractive tall wealthy chad type (5'7, heavy, I look very much like somewhere between the guy who sells you food from a food cart and someone who's gonna be running your D&D game next weekend) and that they don't need to be so anxious about their looks. To make the point clear, I included a pretty simple boomer computer selfie pic.
The copium response trying to justify how I'm not an untouchable virgin was one of the best confidence boosts I've ever gotten.
Well done man. I hope I can get where you're at one day even if my looks and personality hold me back
*people who are hot on r/amiugly:* just their for ego
*people who are not hot on r/amiugly:* epistemological masochism a la Contrapoints' Incels video.
In neither cases is anyone looking for truth or asking in good faith. It is another artifice atop artifice courtesy of the good ol' internet. Sincerity is dead.
Eyyyy new video! I love your content so much!
One of your other videos, you commented, how you keep pumping out videos, please keep pumping out videos. This is great Content
I HATE that subreddit. I was scrolling through it some time ago and there were lots of attractive or decent looking guys and girls who really just needed a confidence boost or some good advice, like the posture thing. Instead you have assholes underneath every post just being needlessly rude... I actually checked the accounts of people who were extremely rude. Most of the time they spent hours commenting underneath each and every post on that sub with their toxic and unhelpful attitude, while not sharing a single photo of themselves. Absolute losers.
I remember posting to these, ultimately these are just moderated by very very insecure chronically online people. I remember every person who gave me a score above 5 had their comment removed by mods. However for every 4-3 I got 10 men were in my dms, ready to prey on an insecure 18 yo.
I was just thinking about this subreddit earlier today 😂 funny you happened to drop a vid about it
I give you a...-5/10
Weird time to be getting into Reddit, considering the recent blackout in protest over API price changes (made specifically to kill third-party apps) which is still active for some subs.
Im shocked nobody really cares about how creepy people were about teens, and as a teen girl MOST times when i tell a guy im 15 it gets him even more excited
I just... i cant expect anything good to come out of posting yourself on reddit let alone asking them to purposely judge you omg
After the reddit blackout, i keep on seeing this on the site
Enjoying these more casual and relaxed videos! A nice mix between the heavier topics
zamn this reminds me of being on ED tumblr sporadically when i was a teenager. one person told me to send them pics of my thighs cause i said i was insecure about them and then literally went "oh wow yes very disgusting and big. i have to go for like 30 minutes now but i will be back." and i immediately thought they were just beating off to the pics or smth which is hilarious if true.
I’m really liking this kind of video, genuinely! It has big “2am on a discord voice chat” vibes.
I’ve had a long day and being able to have this semi-scripted conversational content really helps my man!! 🙏🙏
Even people who post on the r/roastme subreddit wind up regretting it. One time a guy there posted a pic of him holding a photo of him as a child, he had a ridiculous hairdo back then and wanted people to roast that, but they just kept insulting the way he looks right now even after he asked them to stop
it's literally called r/roastme
I liked the vibes thanks noah
8:58
I hate being reminded that many zoomers are still really young, the youngest zoomers are fucking 11
I'm a zoomer and I'm 21 wtf 😭
not me withering into dust as the certified Oldest Zoomer at 25
Oh god. I made one of these posts around 8 years ago being fairly certain that I was not ugly but basically just looking for validation. I was 17 and really insecure, got a few comments saying I was attractive/above average and that’s about it. One commenter made a pretty deep analysis into my facial features though, which tapped into some insecurities, even though it wasn’t all bad. Not sure what I expected - it was pretty underwhelming. I guess I hoped people would start hitting on me or something LOL. Dark times. I’m lucky I didn’t get bullied tbh
I almost did it when I was 17, so glad I didn’t
I looked at this subreddit a couple times when I felt really low, but the predictable way that men would comment on most women's posts eventually made me tell reddit to stop recommending posts to me. I'm glad I never got to a point where I wanted to post myself there.
noah upload era!!!
Everyone is beautiful. Especially Noah
Oh yeah ive fucking been there.
I like giving compliments but every one looks like a 10 really
There's quite a few other "rating" style subreddits and they get wild. People have super specific systems like "you're a 5.4, but if you wore better eyeliner, I could see you being a 5.65". And the mods will ban people who give ratings they consider to be too high for "simping".
I once accidentally found the subreddit r/truerate and it was such a fever dream like if you rated someone higher than like 6 you got banned and it was only girls posting and guys rating like wtf
i posted myself to there when i was 14. so glad my self esteem has gone up since then
I did this. I specifically did this in order to receive specific commentary about why I'm ugly. My self-esteem isn't great and I wanted my insecurities to be affirmed. Some people on am i ugly subreddit are actually quite affirming and nice, or just trying to be realistic.
Noah, you’re beautiful.
I dropped insecurities a long time ago. the way i see it is "I am who I am and I will be who I am, no one can change me, no one can stop me, no ones opinion matters to me." and with that i live my life never really caring if im attractive or not. i like how i look cause it's me. maybe some people think im ugly, they are allowed to have that opinion same goes for those who find me attractive. at the end of the day i go to sleep as myself. have the time when i get "bullied" i just assume the bully is jealous of me and i walk away. unless it's family, gotta clap back if it's family.
i used to go on there trying to offer words of encouragement but man i couldn’t deal with that atmosphere
I'm troubleshooting audio issues on my computer and that intro tilted me.