They should have just mucked up the irons and slowed the reloads. The MP7 needed long range damage dropped to 17 and then MW3 would have been pretty balanced.
@gsfgenleprchaun To be clear, I did intentionally use the word "slightly" overpowered. Is it really that bad? No, but does it offer more than its competition? Yes.
The acr was probably the most overpowered assault rifle never to be patched. It should have been patched to have less damage for starters, cos I just got sick of how many times noobs won up close against players who used smgs ( no sympathy for those who used mp7, also overpowered)
MW3 Developers: Soooo.... you know that overpowered, disgustingly accurate weapon with zero recoil in Modern Warfare 2? Yeah... let's add more power to that! BASTARDS!!!
+geupard smith That would drop it to a 3-4 hit kill, whereas all other Assault Rifles either had three to four hit kills by default, two to three hit kills with Stopping Power, One headshot kill potential if using Stopping Power on the FAL, and higher rates of fire (M4A1, F2000).
45-30 seems pretty damn good to me. There is literally no bad things about the ACR. Good damage, No recoil, fast reloads. OP. No need to get your panties in a twist.
What is that from? The clip where he says he made me miss.. Also yes I do use the m27 because I like the acr but I think they both have strengths neither is better than the other
@xxRagingAmishxx amish i think of the acr as a boosted up commando. i mean the irons are the same and its a beast with the silencer. what do you think?
ive said this b4 but he acr has 30 dmg over range, think about that for a sec. more than the ak and the cm901. tham means it kick poples screans more making them miss more it is op. and also just because a wepon is statistecly avrage does not mean it is not overpowered, just look at how many people used it same with the damn mp7.
From MW2 they: Buffed the damage, shortened the reload, kept the low recoil, gave it better irons(some may disagree), kept it's range (Bad considering the size of the maps), only raised it's unlock level by 2(realistically lowered by 8 since 10 lvs have been added), More attachments, op perks, overused a lot more, added SP by default, specialist strike package. More op than the type 95 imo.
I like the flexibility of this weapon. Something that is really fascinating is that this gun IRL was designed to be flexible for different scenarios. In a show I saw talking about this weapon, they said that a simple modification (a minute or two at the most) and you can be using the enemies' ammunition! I really like this gun, and personally hope that it will continue to be seen. Lastly, I think you could put the place in the prestige as a con.
I burst out laughing when the very first line was "FIRE THE LAZOR" since that's exactly what I have on the mind for this gun. However, I do think it's balanced. The low fire rate keeps it in check, and there are lots of times when I lose to faster firing weapons up close.
30 damage over range is better than the CM901 and AK 47, meaning that peoples screan will kick more than with the supposed high damage assult riffle. The ACR needs to be dropt to 25 or 20 damage over range.
like a guy said once commenting another ACR moab -> "This was a balanced, nice-to-have gun in MW2, it is now an overpowered monster in MW3" my opinion on the 6.8 version: good for beginners, good for training, and never hesitate to pick up one if you're running out of ammo. Weapons like Scar or CM-901 just give you more challenge and more "merit" (still some people do not give a damn)
In my opinion the best thing to do to balance ACR is to give it more idle sway than other assault rifles. That would limit it's long range advantage to the level of other ARs. Thay did the same thing back in COD4 with M4A1, it had good fire rate, decent damage and low recoil so it was given more idle sway than other rifles to balance the thing
I can't wait for your G36C review! Definitely my favourite weapon in the game, and based on your Assault Rifles video, apparently it's one of yours too.
I am surprised that amish doesn't use it.I mean does 90 rounds actually is enough when you hope to kill more than 5 guys? I use scavanger on all my classes exept hardcore where you die really quick.
Its not just about being hidden but also going at a fast pace so enemies can't reach or react as fast as you, but theres also campers in corners just waiting until you show up.
ACR 6.8 Hybrid Sights Focus .44 Magnum Akimbo Semtex Trophy System Blind Eye Pro Hardline Pro SitRep Pro UAV Predator Missile Precision Airstrike Hollow Points What do you think?
@TheFaisalano Actually, on machine guns, it does. I forget the exact explanation, but light machine guns have a different kind of kick in this game, which the thermal scopes don't take into account. I've killed snipers on Bakarra and Mission with it easily.
ACR 6.8 extended mags and silencer w/ sleight of hand pro, either hard-line, quickdraw, or assassin pro, and marksman. secondary either stinger or mp9 silenced. use what ever tactical or lethal equipment you want. For your strike package, use either low assault killstreaks, or support.
Amish.......I have to confess something. I used an ACR silencer and Assassin Pro and got a 20-0. Is it okay that I used .44 Magnum and Sitrep? I apologize in advance.
LOL I love how you just stared at the hanging body at 5:49 Anyway, personally I can't use the ACR, Maybe I just got used to the higher rate of fire weapons. (My Fav AR: FAD, My Fav SMG:P90) But I do think the gun is VERY overused and kinda overpowered, this is one of the most common weapons in the game along with the MP7 (Which I think needs a nerf) and the FMG9 akimbo(AAAAHHHHHHH GET IT AWAY!).
I have to agree with Amish on this one. The ACR 6.8 has tons of strong points and very few real downsides (the only one that I can think of is the slower firerate). Yes, a 6.8mm round is indeed more powerful than the 5.56mm standard. But this gun is still borderline OP, although, it is possibly more overused than it is overpowered.
YES. I always thought to myself, why do guns like the acr or the m4a1 have stopping power by default, but then the ak47 and the mp5 have no stopping power. It screws up the balance
If they adjusted bullet damage and mag size, I think it'd be fair. The way it is now, like you said, it makes other guns obsolete. When a gun makes others useless, there's a problem.
for perks with the ACR, I would rather choose extreme conditioning, quickdraw and stalker. Pro or not pro these perks will greatly improve your maneuvering skills, especially stalker. I've seen how it looks to aim and walk without stalker on the ACR and it seems as if the person is tripping on rocks. Quickdraw for aiming down sights fast and extreme conditioning to get to the location you want to be at, faster.
ACR is easily beaten by G36C, M4A1, Type 95, MP7, and (depending on user) MK14. The slow fire rate is what kills it. G36C and M4A1 both have much faster rates of fire, with low, easy to control recoil. G36C also has similar damage profiles, giving it that 3-4 hit kill. MK14 is KILLER if the user is accurate. Type 95 and MP7 are both pretty overpowered.
The ACR has more recoil than the: M4, G36C, FAD, SCAR-L, M16A4 and Type95 without kick. It does, of course have the least recoil of the full-auto rifles WITH kick but that severely limits your proficiency selection. The low fire rate and ADS time limits the ACR to one role in-game. Source is Denkirson's boards.
It's not easy to get, because how fast you get Sitrep Pro has a lot to do with luck. If your enemy isn't using equipment, you can't work on Sitrep Pro. Sometimes you can go several matches and not see any equipment. Even if equipment is around, you still have to get close enough to the equipment to destroy it. With these things in mind, I only destroy 0-2 pieces of equipment most matches. Sometimes I get lucky with a motion-sensor happy camper, but not often.
@LeQuack147 Wait..what? I heard the PKP has some sort of magical reduction, but not the others. Plus, the low movement speed and being perk-handicapped and also attachements, not the best thing.
@TheFaisalano The MK46 with thermal is a laser too, so is the L86, but they both have more ammo. Stalker/Quickdraw/Sleight of Hand fixes any speed issues, and the semi-automatic nature of the MK14 is the only thing keeping it from being OP though it's still an amazing gun. Half the guys I've seen using the ACR use a sight anyway, so apparently they disagree about the irons.
why is her saying it has poor range? it has a longer 3 hit kill range than all the low damage assault rifles which is what this is, and it doesn't have a 5 hit kill range. the CM901 and AK47 have longer 3 hit kill ranges but those weapons have so much more recoil for the return of only 10-13 meters of more range. this gun is maybe overpowered because it makes the Scar L statistically obsolete with the only advantage of the SCAR being it shoots 45rpm Faster, but when you look at how overpowered the burst weapons are, especially with rapid fire or the PP90M1 with rapid fire those weapons drop you in 1 tenth of a second, it's not so bad
Only Sitrep PRO users get the noise filter, you mean. And Sitrep Pro is one of the most time consuming perks to unlock. Whoever goes to the trouble of getting it totally deserves it. Usually I never get the pro benefit until I'm in the mid 50s levels, and that's when I'm using the Sitrep perk constantly.
In my opinion the acr will be outclassed by the scar if damage at range is reduced to 20 the scar being the second lowest recoil and a faster fire rate will end up making the acr obsolete
I'm pretty sure the SCAR have better recoil profile. The ACR jump a lot to left-to-right and right-to-left, the SCAR doesn't do that. The down kick is minimal and up kick is just slightly higher than the ACR.
No, I'm just saying, if the MP7's OP because of the recoil, then so is the G36C because it also just shoots up. It's very easy to control once you handle it. It's ALMOST like a laser if you can manage it.
Honestly, the masterkey is a DECENT choice, i feel the ACR struggles at close range. And im a fan for the Masterkey, This what i think of a masterkey: WHO NEEDS A SHOTGUN AS A PRIMARY/SECONDARY WHEN YOU CAN HAVE A SHOTGUN AS AN ATTACHMENT?
They should have just mucked up the irons and slowed the reloads. The MP7 needed long range damage dropped to 17 and then MW3 would have been pretty balanced.
You know you're wearing your tryhard panties when you use the ACR 6.8.
+Joona Jalopaasi why would that be the case? (never used the the ACR btw)
The gun takes no skill to use, the recoil needs no control and you just point and spray.
Royce Fletcher I see...like black ops 1s famas!
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@gsfgenleprchaun To be clear, I did intentionally use the word "slightly" overpowered. Is it really that bad? No, but does it offer more than its competition? Yes.
The acr was probably the most overpowered assault rifle never to be patched. It should have been patched to have less damage for starters, cos I just got sick of how many times noobs won up close against players who used smgs ( no sympathy for those who used mp7, also overpowered)
MW3 Developers: Soooo.... you know that overpowered, disgustingly accurate weapon with zero recoil in Modern Warfare 2? Yeah... let's add more power to that!
BASTARDS!!!
Oh boy, the MW2 was nowhere close to OP. Sure it was dead accurate, but it had piss poor damage and range (4-5 HK)
Mike DiLoreto it also had stopping power as an option
Yeah but it still had atrocious range compared to some of the other AR's.
+geupard smith That would drop it to a 3-4 hit kill, whereas all other Assault Rifles either had three to four hit kills by default, two to three hit kills with Stopping Power, One headshot kill potential if using Stopping Power on the FAL, and higher rates of fire (M4A1, F2000).
The mw2 version was better-much more accurate and has brilliant irons
45-30 seems pretty damn good to me. There is literally no bad things about the ACR. Good damage, No recoil, fast reloads. OP. No need to get your panties in a twist.
amish, i love these commentaries! i refuse to watch any different reviews besides yours! keep it up broski!
You're confusing me. It's overpowered and is suited to little kids that are between 6-8 (6.8) years of age.
The m27 gives this gun a run for its money
Two things.
1. M27 is Blops 2 only.
2. We don't talk about that gun....
Wrong game dude.
M27 IAR from ghosts shames this weapon
Not really. It has weaker shots, so it is quite balanced.
Hey, Amish could you answer a question if you prestige in a previously CoD
after mw3's release. do you still get the prestige token.
What do you think about BO2 perks?
Dead when prone and the teammate icon, etc...
What is that from? The clip where he says he made me miss.. Also yes I do use the m27 because I like the acr but I think they both have strengths neither is better than the other
@xxRagingAmishxx amish i think of the acr as a boosted up commando. i mean the irons are the same and its a beast with the silencer. what do you think?
ive said this b4 but he acr has 30 dmg over range, think about that for a sec. more than the ak and the cm901. tham means it kick poples screans more making them miss more it is op. and also just because a wepon is statistecly avrage does not mean it is not overpowered, just look at how many people used it same with the damn mp7.
Amish, do you feel that unlocking the ACR early via a prestige token is worth it? And if not, what Assault rifle do you recommend?
From MW2 they:
Buffed the damage, shortened the reload, kept the low recoil, gave it better irons(some may disagree), kept it's range (Bad considering the size of the maps), only raised it's unlock level by 2(realistically lowered by 8 since 10 lvs have been added), More attachments, op perks, overused a lot more, added SP by default, specialist strike package.
More op than the type 95 imo.
on the thermal sight, the FAD for some reason has virtually ZERO kick. it is a new discovery that i am loving.
I like the flexibility of this weapon. Something that is really fascinating is that this gun IRL was designed to be flexible for different scenarios. In a show I saw talking about this weapon, they said that a simple modification (a minute or two at the most) and you can be using the enemies' ammunition! I really like this gun, and personally hope that it will continue to be seen. Lastly, I think you could put the place in the prestige as a con.
wait, where do you get the recoil numbers?
I love your videos and how creative you are with them, Liked and Subbed. :)
subscribed. one of the best gun reviews on youtube
did you find that out only because tmartn suggested it or when you ranked it up to thermal you used it for weapon xp
I burst out laughing when the very first line was "FIRE THE LAZOR" since that's exactly what I have on the mind for this gun.
However, I do think it's balanced. The low fire rate keeps it in check, and there are lots of times when I lose to faster firing weapons up close.
@dizodo Since when Has the CM901 had low kick? even with kick proficiency
30 damage over range is better than the CM901 and AK 47, meaning that peoples screan will kick more than with the supposed high damage assult riffle. The ACR needs to be dropt to 25 or 20 damage over range.
Dont the grenade-launcher and the masterkey increase the ACR's fire rate?
You make the BEST weapon reviews.... i liked and subbed :D
Ah, the old days
like a guy said once commenting another ACR moab -> "This was a balanced, nice-to-have gun in MW2, it is now an overpowered monster in MW3"
my opinion on the 6.8 version: good for beginners, good for training, and never hesitate to pick up one if you're running out of ammo. Weapons like Scar or CM-901 just give you more challenge and more "merit" (still some people do not give a damn)
In my opinion the best thing to do to balance ACR is to give it more idle sway than other assault rifles. That would limit it's long range advantage to the level of other ARs. Thay did the same thing back in COD4 with M4A1, it had good fire rate, decent damage and low recoil so it was given more idle sway than other rifles to balance the thing
your vids are amazing, you have just won a subscriber bro!
We should stop hating on the ACR and focus on the real enemy, Type 95.
I can't wait for your G36C review! Definitely my favourite weapon in the game, and based on your Assault Rifles video, apparently it's one of yours too.
@red8silence Wait but why would you need Scavenger with Extended mags ??
I am surprised that amish doesn't use it.I mean does 90 rounds actually is enough when you hope to kill more than 5 guys?
I use scavanger on all my classes exept hardcore where you die really quick.
If the ACR did 20 damage at range, wouldn't it be obsolete next to the Scar? Maybe body multipliers on the ACR?
Can i cheat on the silencer (because im in love with it), with extended mags?
Its not just about being hidden but also going at a fast pace so enemies can't reach or react as fast as you, but theres also campers in corners just waiting until you show up.
08:21 Why were you using the Deagle?
Movie clips were clutch this episode, amish, dr. evil had me rollin'
Love the Mel Brooks cameo Amish, and your points are to-a-tee with how I feel. Great review; though I never suspect less from the Amishman.
if this gun had a grip attachment you people would...
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Great game
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Have You Made An M4A1 Review Yet If Not When Can I Expect One
assassin users wont show up on heartbeat sensors.
Then, whats the point of using it anyway?
ACR 6.8
Hybrid Sights
Focus
.44 Magnum
Akimbo
Semtex
Trophy System
Blind Eye Pro
Hardline Pro
SitRep Pro
UAV
Predator Missile
Precision Airstrike
Hollow Points
What do you think?
pm 16 sorry i just couldnt remember that gun name and yes this video is old but what gun is that
@TheFaisalano Actually, on machine guns, it does. I forget the exact explanation, but light machine guns have a different kind of kick in this game, which the thermal scopes don't take into account. I've killed snipers on Bakarra and Mission with it easily.
You are the best Amish. Fucking hillarious, and in-depth. Always a supporter.
At one point in the bid you said the acr is amazing at range and then at the end you change you mind?
ACR 6.8 extended mags and silencer w/ sleight of hand pro, either hard-line, quickdraw, or assassin pro, and marksman. secondary either stinger or mp9 silenced. use what ever tactical or lethal equipment you want. For your strike package, use either low assault killstreaks, or support.
Amish.......I have to confess something. I used an ACR silencer and Assassin Pro and got a 20-0. Is it okay that I used .44 Magnum and Sitrep? I apologize in advance.
LOL I love how you just stared at the hanging body at 5:49
Anyway, personally I can't use the ACR, Maybe I just got used to the higher rate of fire weapons.
(My Fav AR: FAD, My Fav SMG:P90)
But I do think the gun is VERY overused and kinda overpowered, this is one of the most common weapons in the game along with the MP7 (Which I think needs a nerf) and the FMG9 akimbo(AAAAHHHHHHH GET IT AWAY!).
I have to agree with Amish on this one. The ACR 6.8 has tons of strong points and very few real downsides (the only one that I can think of is the slower firerate). Yes, a 6.8mm round is indeed more powerful than the 5.56mm standard. But this gun is still borderline OP, although, it is possibly more overused than it is overpowered.
Best video i have ever seen about a cod gun !
are you ever gonna review the MP7
They both have their own charm about their videos, still both awesome!
It's like a median between ACR and M4. Faster rate of fire, but more recoil. Yet not TOO fast rate of fire, and can still he used at longer ranges.
YES. I always thought to myself, why do guns like the acr or the m4a1 have stopping power by default, but then the ak47 and the mp5 have no stopping power. It screws up the balance
Your voice is like the one on the cop chase video programmes... its awesome...
Where are the clips with the bald dude come from?
Kick is so good with the ACR!
Sounds weird, but the ACR gets one of the greatest kick reductions of all guns!
acr 6.8 is one of the best guns with extendmag and silencer
whats the backround music?
If they adjusted bullet damage and mag size, I think it'd be fair. The way it is now, like you said, it makes other guns obsolete. When a gun makes others useless, there's a problem.
for perks with the ACR, I would rather choose extreme conditioning, quickdraw and stalker. Pro or not pro these perks will greatly improve your maneuvering skills, especially stalker. I've seen how it looks to aim and walk without stalker on the ACR and it seems as if the person is tripping on rocks. Quickdraw for aiming down sights fast and extreme conditioning to get to the location you want to be at, faster.
ACR is easily beaten by G36C, M4A1, Type 95, MP7, and (depending on user) MK14. The slow fire rate is what kills it. G36C and M4A1 both have much faster rates of fire, with low, easy to control recoil. G36C also has similar damage profiles, giving it that 3-4 hit kill. MK14 is KILLER if the user is accurate. Type 95 and MP7 are both pretty overpowered.
Hey to the guy that makes the video what perks do u have on the red acr
Mayby a 25 round mag? (35 rounds with extended mags)
Amish,
what do you think of the FMG9 nerf? Want your quick opinion, successful or not??
MW2 actually had the ACR with 30-20 damage and literally less recoil than a Watergun.
So they flipped it in MW3.
Ever since me and my friends have started playing Face Off whenever we see an ACR 6.8 we shout Fire za lazar! at every death
Acr with thermal and suppressor is a death ray,
Its a sniper rifle that turns into an LMG..
The ACR has more recoil than the: M4, G36C, FAD, SCAR-L, M16A4 and Type95 without kick. It does, of course have the least recoil of the full-auto rifles WITH kick but that severely limits your proficiency selection. The low fire rate and ADS time limits the ACR to one role in-game. Source is Denkirson's boards.
It's not easy to get, because how fast you get Sitrep Pro has a lot to do with luck. If your enemy isn't using equipment, you can't work on Sitrep Pro. Sometimes you can go several matches and not see any equipment. Even if equipment is around, you still have to get close enough to the equipment to destroy it.
With these things in mind, I only destroy 0-2 pieces of equipment most matches. Sometimes I get lucky with a motion-sensor happy camper, but not often.
mw3 handgun which handgun the desert eagle or five seven
@11:36 got caught so off guard I literally fell out my chair laughing.
At least in MW2 the ACR had some run for it's money. It was slightly weaker and usually needed stopping power.
Damn amish, ur racking up the views... I remember when u had a fe thousand views for each video... Keep it up!
@LeQuack147 Wait..what?
I heard the PKP has some sort of magical reduction, but not the others.
Plus, the low movement speed and being perk-handicapped and also attachements, not the best thing.
@TheFaisalano The MK46 with thermal is a laser too, so is the L86, but they both have more ammo. Stalker/Quickdraw/Sleight of Hand fixes any speed issues, and the semi-automatic nature of the MK14 is the only thing keeping it from being OP though it's still an amazing gun.
Half the guys I've seen using the ACR use a sight anyway, so apparently they disagree about the irons.
Yes, I agree, that's because MW3 is over-used and worn out.
why is her saying it has poor range? it has a longer 3 hit kill range than all the low damage assault rifles which is what this is, and it doesn't have a 5 hit kill range. the CM901 and AK47 have longer 3 hit kill ranges but those weapons have so much more recoil for the return of only 10-13 meters of more range. this gun is maybe overpowered because it makes the Scar L statistically obsolete with the only advantage of the SCAR being it shoots 45rpm Faster, but when you look at how overpowered the burst weapons are, especially with rapid fire or the PP90M1 with rapid fire those weapons drop you in 1 tenth of a second, it's not so bad
Only Sitrep PRO users get the noise filter, you mean. And Sitrep Pro is one of the most time consuming perks to unlock. Whoever goes to the trouble of getting it totally deserves it. Usually I never get the pro benefit until I'm in the mid 50s levels, and that's when I'm using the Sitrep perk constantly.
Whose used to him saying red dot sight reflex sight ?
honestly i think that the low rate of fire translates to a good thing. If the fire rate was higher, kick would be more noticeable.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!! IM BEEN WAITING FOR THE REVIEWS AND I SURVIVE
you have... THE BEST MW reviews :D
In my opinion the acr will be outclassed by the scar if damage at range is reduced to 20 the scar being the second lowest recoil and a faster fire rate will end up making the acr obsolete
he made himself clear that the ak-74u is perfectly balanced but becomes overpowered when equiped with rapidfire.
I'm pretty sure the SCAR have better recoil profile. The ACR jump a lot to left-to-right and right-to-left, the SCAR doesn't do that. The down kick is minimal and up kick is just slightly higher than the ACR.
my ACR setup
Primary: ACR w/ silencer/Heartbeat
proficency: 2 attachments
secondary :MP9 silencer
Perks: Blind eye
Quickdraw
SitRep
Assualt: UAV
Preditor mistle
AC 130
Semtex Portibal Radar
Death streak: Revenge
O shit, you scared me when you screamed FIRE THE LAZOR.
No, I'm just saying, if the MP7's OP because of the recoil, then so is the G36C because it also just shoots up. It's very easy to control once you handle it. It's ALMOST like a laser if you can manage it.
love the Amish Calculator, you sound like Cartman from South Park
Goddamn this gun is everywhere. It's become the UMP45 from MW2, I'll see entire lobbies of players using this gun exclusively.
I agree, the ACR is too user friendly, but I think there are a lot of guns that are slightly OP or too user friendly.
Honestly, the masterkey is a DECENT choice, i feel the ACR struggles at close range. And im a fan for the Masterkey, This what i think of a masterkey: WHO NEEDS A SHOTGUN AS A PRIMARY/SECONDARY WHEN YOU CAN HAVE A SHOTGUN AS AN ATTACHMENT?
Yeah, thoses dudes who play those classes often make me rage, but like Amish I have less despise for stealthy rushers than for stealthy campers.
all your videos are the best
loved the daredevil reference