I tried it in mobile version. Even though I was very doubtful as I have trouble defending with 5 CBs, so what can 3 CBs do I thought. To my pleasant surprise, I played the game very well. Defensively it's very solid with superb attacking (long through passing). I used LBC playstyle with Deschamps as the manager.
Bro you really cooked with this. Ive got Godric as left AMF, Bellingham as CMF and Silva as right AMF with Makelele and Kante as DMFs. Its kinda crazy. The new Neymar and Copa America Messi on top with OG L. Hernandez, Saliba and Costacurta in defense.
Brooo you just leaked my secret to the whole world!😂 I’ve been using this formation with great success in divs got the 15W badge with this. I use LBC tho and I’m a mobile player🎉 Great content
Hey bro.. Mobile user + LBC player here as well! Can you share your squad set up in brief as well like players you use ? Would like to try Thanks and cheers
been playing this formation since 2024 release i would suggest you try 2 orchestraters 1 in AMF and 1 in CMF position other AMF should be creative playmaker... your both CF should be changed to SS cause AI control of them will make them way more attack orientated when you are not controlling them... put your AMF's to max forwards and CMF on free space between AMF's and DMF's... cheers
Ive been suing this formation since this video and I gotta say it’s been the most useful formation I’ve ever used. My interception numbers be insane and I’m creating so many chances to score goals.
Pepe your video training style is exemplary. Just noticed how you start with gameplay and then go into the details. Found it a lot easier to comprehend the Why in your thesis. Thanks for great content and keeping us all on form sir 🎉
Thank you very much, glad to hear you like it👍As you said, I'm trying to give a good overview of the idea and the concept in the beginning, then go through each individual position's detail💪
I've been losing on div 2 like 10 consecutive matches no matter what formation i tried, my squad strengh is 3114 . First game on this formation i beat a guy with 3205 strength Thanks so much
@@PESPepe just found out i dont have any good box to box players just totw pablo torre and free spain fabian but theyre doing the job Btw I use 3 defensive fullbacks as cbs but theyre kinda short Is it okay to use build up Saliba as CB?
I think that in this game, especially Mobile, the best attack is with 4 forwards in line but on the sides there are sprinters like Leao, Chiesa, Son and in midfield 2 physically strong midfielders with defensive skills like Rodri, Onana and Viera.
Hey! I don't use any mods at all, it must all be the game itself, no credit to me😀 Maybe it's the stadium? I play all of my home games in the Allianz Arena.
Hello, thanks! It's situational, as explained in the video. The only thing I'd always do is defensive on any DMF that's no anchor man or destroyer. Deep-line on the defensively better DMF if the gap between defense and midfield is too big.
Great video man! Looking forward to trying this out. How viable is Drift Wide as a tactic? And do you know the best formations and roles to get the most out of it?
Thanks! I know a somebody who used it before the last update, but sure how it currently is. Probably needs wingers to make the game wide and drag the defense apart and then cmfs/amfs that move up to use the free space and either get something done on their own or give it to one of the strikers. I'm really not an expert on Out Wide though💪
I used this after I was on a 5 loosing streak and I’m making my comeback. Only problem is I’m having the same problem as in 11:14. Once they’re behind the line it’s hard to start attacking again
I think that's one of the most challenging parts since playing with 3 high up CBs is pretty unusual. It's just a matter of experience though, since the game is very different from defending with long ball counter. When I switched, I also took a few games to defend properly, don't worry😀Good luck for your comeback💪
Great video. Quick question for the cmf. Is better a weaker b2b or bellingham hp. Instead of bellingham as cmf i could use camavinga or silva. Whats your toughts about? Thx
Thanks! I think all of the cards you mentioned can work. Hole Player Bellingham should be alright. I sometimes use Maradona in this position who's horrible defensively, but it still works. He's usually a different position than a box to box player would be so the long breakthrough run through the middle doesn't really appear in this way, but he's still a menace to deal with, just differently than Bellingham.
Ohhh it's like how my man @jibrules was talking about modern CAMs They'll pass around, create space and opportunity and drop wide to act as wingers at times (Like Bellingoal & Musilala😮) Great vid Pepe❤❤
Thanks for this super video. I play the similaar formation but instead 2 amf's i have cmfs and your cmf is my amf. What do you think are the differences ? Thanks
Thank you very much for the nice comment! If you also use QC, the differences probably aren't very big assuming you use similar playstyles. You might not be able to do the offensive pattern runs as much because an AMF in the middle might be too far up and will not only grab the attention of the defenders earlier, but since he'll also be starting his run further up, he'll carry less speed when reaching the point of the defensive line. This isn't really a big problem though, you'll just have a different passing option this way. I've used a CMF in place of one of the AMFs (Samuel Lino because he has no proficiency in AMF) and he was doing fine. It's hard to say how it'll play out exactly without seeing it, but there's a chance he might overlap a bit later, but that's less a thing of good or bad but more of a different way to play a situation. In general, since players don't only move according to their registered positions but also in relation to where the opponent's players (or your own players, in case of attacking) are, without seeing it (I could be wrong), I'd say your formation won't be too different.
Thanks! Absolutely, I even used the term anti meta due to the massive pressure you can exert around the middle. The formation is excellent against center heavy play, which most formations in eFootball have been about. It's a bit weaker against excessive wing play or a competent possession player (fortunately, they're a rare species😁), but I've shown simple ways to deal with this in the weaknesses & sub tactics chapter. I love this formation, been using it almost exclusively for like 4 seasons. It's also great fun!
Hey Raquel! Thanks for keeping all the skills for me. If you want to use an orchestrator, it's probably best as a CMF. Using them as a DMF won't break the formation either but you'd probably be a bit weaker as orchestrators usually aren't bulky interceptors. Best is just to try if it fits your playstyle👍
Thank you very much! Unfortunately, I don't know that out of my head😂I'll probably get into the game later tonight and check it out for you. If I fail to remember, feel free to leave me another message.
Wow! My 3ATB walk-through is here. I've gone through the whole video and I've created the setup with the given guidelines. Just that i added Beckenbeur as the third CB. I added him all because I'm short of a defensive fullback who can move freely with the ball and deal with aerial threats as well ( I'm thinking of bringing back my base Tomiyasu tho). The three CBs are Costacurta x OG base hernandez x Beck. I have Destroyer Gimenez and legend Maldini on the bench. In midfield, i added the IM Vieira(Box to Box) with defensive instructions. Do you think he'll handle the business despite not being a Destroyer? I must make mention of the deepline instruction on my Anchor man Zakaria. The only problem I'm having is the QC playstyle and I'm still contemplating on switching back to LBC or do you recommend OUTWIDE? I'm trying to take advantage of the ALL-OUT-DEFENCE and the aggressive pressing from OW since LBC is too passive for me. What do you suggest? The plan is to stick to the LBC tho. You know, the mobile platform has no room for subtatics and more reasons why its hard to set up the QC for both 3 & 4 ATB at the same time.
If it's the nominating contract Giménez, I've used that one for a while, I'd put him in the middle if any of the others aren't available. If the OG base Hernandez is the fast original base Lucas Hernandez, then congratulations on having that one, it was way ahead of it's time😁 I've played no style Costacurta alongside box to box Zakaria for a while, so also no destroyer, it should be fine. I'd only use the deep-line instruction if you desperately need to close the gap shown in the weaknesses & sub tactics chapter though, because the player that's coming back is no longer participating in pressuring the opponent up front. This does make sense if your opponent manages to quickly skip the midfield (because then the pressure can't stop him anyway), but if he can't you might want to have the second DMF up there as well to exert greater pressure and to have him up there for interceptions. With this formation, I'd stick to Quick Counter. I lack experience with Out Wide to give you a serious analysis about it to be honest. It could would, but I have no idea if it will, it could also monumentally fail😂 About Long Ball Counter, someone asked that earlier today and I wrote him a detailed reply about it, it probably helps you as well. If you can't find it, let me know so I'll find it and paste it to you. That's too bad, I really hope they'll add sub tactics for mobile.
@@PESPepe Yes, it's the nominating contract Gimenez and i must confess that he's one of the most trusted Destroyer CB I've ever used. Yes! The OG base hernandez from efootball 21 and he's up there competing with most of these epic cards in the present game 😂 I've seen people play either Costacurta or Beckenbeur as their DMF but i prefer an anchor man( especially after watching your video that addresses the leg length 😉) and most importantly, I want someone whose presence can be felt in both the midfield and the near box to stop attacks. I guess I'll have to stick to the QC since it's aggressive enough to take advantage of the front line pressing. On the other side, i added the deepline instruction on Zakaria just to provide an extra man in defence because most people tend to spam through balls to the wings and also crosses into the box. I think I'll have to take extra precautions on how to deal with that at the coming days. On the other side, OUT WIDE playstyle is fun to use. It's one of those underrated playstyles and people would rather play the fast and effective means to get the goals. It's all about the fun for me and I do not take it to heart whenever i lose or something. I just want to have fun lol
Maybe it's a bit different on mobile, you probably know better than me if the deep line instruction helps you there. Zakaria is a menace, absolutely love him, 500 games with the B2B POTW card, and now using the show time card. Would love to give you some feedback on out wide, but haven't used it enough🙁 Absolutely! Fun is the most important thing. This formation is also the most fun for me, because of all the offensive possibilities and defensive challenges. It's the most fun I've ever had!
@@PESPepe Well, both the mobile and the console platform are basically the same mechanism. The only difference is the freedom to make use of multiple commands on the pad compared to tapping the phone screen aggressively 😂 The deepline instruction comes in whenever I'm facing opponents with 442 or 424 formation since they tend to outnumber my defence easily. So, Zakaria is there to help out but on a normal day, if my opponent is playing down the middle, i play without the instruction. I've been a big fan the 3ATB formation and i like the numbers in attack and how i laugh at myself whenever the i fail to utilise my chances and my opponents has a turnover. You should try out the outwide playstyle. I'm sure you'll have enough fun while playing it. Especially if you play with wingers.
Hello Pepe Amazing video as always...! Would like to know what camera angle and settings do you use?? Also can you share your best build for this B2B Bellingham?
Hey man!I have a few questions 1.I dont have bellingham 😭 Any other good affordable suggestions,my best box to box is enzo fernandez but his finishing is lacking (67 😭)do you hink this will matter too much? 2.Hownmuch does speed matter for the dmfs,i need someone to pair with gilberto silva,and have gp kante,england pack rice,alaba and beckenbaur,which one do i use? 3.Between your potw bernado,potw pedri,england pack bellingham,Potw kulusevki(from777 pack),Van der vaart,rafa silva potw(booster) and potw joao felix what duo would you suggest? Anyways giant fan of your vida and im glad your back bro
Hello! Thanks for the nice words. 1. If he has enough speed, you could still try it. As shown in the video, Bellingham also did some nice passes to tap-in and doesn't necessarily have to finish himself. It could be a bit of a problem if you have a smart opponent who knows that Fernandez won't be finishing, but other than that, I'd give it a try. As long as he has a solid speed and dribbling stat and is also capable defensively, he'll be okay. I sometimes use the paid Maradona as an alternative, needs a position trainer though (although switching it to AMF would most likely not break the formation). It changes the dynamics of the formation a bit, but him (or any hole player at his level) will do absolutely fine. You'd be a bit weaker defensively though. Since you've mentioned the English pack Bellingham, that one should do alright as well. Since you've mentioned GP Kanté below, in my national team matches, I used him in the CMF position for a nice, more defensive variant. Worse offensively, but, apart from his size & short legs, a valid option. 2. It differs a little. For the initial part where you are attacking and standing far up, acceleration is more important than speed because they'll only run a little portion and then try to intercept. When the opponent is past that line, speed matters more because your DMFs have to catch up. I've used nominating contract Rodri as an anchor man alternative, he's pretty slow but was doing alright, so I guess while it isn't ideal, not having great acceleration and speed doesn't mean a player is absolutely unusable. I guess Ryce should be able to do what Rodri does as well. I'd definitely also give Beckenbauer a try, I can see that working. Not sure about Alaba, I don't really remember any cards of him right now, sorry. 3. I'm not sure if I have all the correct cards in my head, but as a right offensive midfielder, absolutely Bernardo. I use him over Maradona and Griezmann, he is just the total package for this position. I'd probably go for the england pack Bellingham, but I think the others should do alright as well. Hope it helped!
What combo would you recommend for purely free to play player? Like Rodri as anchor , but struggling to find a partner. And if we don't have nom contract Bellingham, who else is good?
Zakaria is amazing if you happen to have a POTW of him. Costacurta is a very solid option, Tchouaméni works fine, base Kanté is always an option in case you don't have anyone else. I think Beckenbauer should also do alright. They'll be worse interceptors than Zakaria/Vieira due to their physique, but should still be able to do a good job. Instead of Bellingham, if you don't have any similar player (other Bellinghams like the England pack one or the bicycle kick POTW are good replacements), you could always go for a hole player. Of course many of them will be bad defensively, but we can't have it all, right?💪
Pepe eres una makina,es una pena que tus videos no tengan subtitulos pues mi ingles es pesimo y no entiendo nada.si pudieras dejarme por escrito las sinergias de los jugadores que utilizas asi como las posiciones de cada jugador seria fantastico.pepe thanks!
Hola! Gracias por las lindas palabras! UA-cam tiene una opción donde puedes traducir automáticamente los subtítulos a tu idioma, creo que debería funcionar bien, tal vez esto te ayude!
@@PESPepe gracias pepe eres un fenomeno absoluto,lo desconocia lo mirare de nuevo.eres un crack haciendo filigranas a mi no me sale ni la croqueta jeje
Te voy a poner mi equipo titular. Dibu martinez Costacurta Saliba Jules kounde Rodri Edgar davids Deco por izquierda MP organizador Bellingham jugador de huecos por el centro Bernardo silva box to box por derecha Ney y messi arriba.
With my best formation, sometimes counter-target on Messi (but that's only because I have nobody to replace him, it actually makes the formation a bit worse because he doesn't press the). Other than that, as the video says. defensive for any DMF that's not an anchor man or destroyer. Deep-line on the defensively better DMF if your opponent skips the midfield and the hole between your lines is too big. Man marking for the sub tactic.
I used this formation in my rtg team consisting mostly of A form players and it works really well. I often find myself switching to a free to play team just for fun and to try out new players. I hesitate trying this formation with my main team mostly because i use Lahm as a right/left back and I wouldn't have a third CB. And Lahm always starts 😂😂 I wish you could give Lahm CB 😉.
Hey! You can try it, but with LBC, you'll lose the main feature of pressuring with many players far up, because as soon as you lose the ball, players will pull back (LBC) instead of pressuring the ball carrier (QC). It's most likely playable, but it would be very different to what's shown in the video. If you're a good LBC player and are capable of defending with 3 CBs, it should work out. What would be important in this case is what the second DMF does and whether you actually need him there or could trade him for a player in another position. It's really hard to say that without seeing it in action. Also, for LBC, a defensive instruction will probably be good even on destroyers. The thing about the second DMF (the one that's no anchor man) is that I suspect (assuming no defensive instruction) that he wouldn't be moving up far enough quick enough to be as useful offensively as a CMF would be, but also wouldn't be as far back as an anchor man or even defender would be, so he'd be kinda mehing around the pitch😂, which would leave you with 2 options: 1) Trade him for a 4th defender, stabilizing your defense. 2) Trade him for a CMF (or even forward if you like to play with forwards) to strengthen your offense. It's all hypothetical though, I haven't seen this formation in LBC in action, so take my advice with a grain of salt, I could be wrong. Playing offensive 3 CB formations means that you essentially trade defensive power for offensive one, but not in a 1:1 ratio. It's like diminishing returns, where the more attacking players you have, the smaller the impact of adding another one is, but also the greater the negative impact would be for your defense. Depending on how good a player (the one on the controller, not the one in the game) is, this gambit might pay off for them or not. If you're very good at defending and can compensate for the missing 4th defender and if you're also good at utilizing the additional midfielder, it will work out. If you're better than your opponent, it will make you win the game even harder. If you can make use of the additional midfielder as opposed to 4 ATB, it'll pay off, but if not, then it's probably better to just use the sub tactic I showed for LBC. I hope this wasn't all too confusing. Keep in mind it's just my opinion though. While I can tell you a lot about this formation in Quick Counter because I've played a few seasons with it, I can only hypothetically assume how it would play out with LBC. Formation guide for the LBC sub tactic is here: ua-cam.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/v-deo.html
Hablo español y youtube me recomendó este video, tengo unas dudas Qué significa No/Gp? B2B es el estilo de juego de Bellignham? La izquierda de Bellignham puede ir cualquier estilo excepto Hole player?
Hola Adrian! Intentaré responder con un traductor. No/GP significa un jugador sin un estilo activado en esta posición o un cazador furtivo de goles. Bellingham es un jugador de caja a caja, sí. También puedes usar un jugador de hoyo aquí, cambiará un poco la formación, pero aún así funciona. Espero que haya ayudado🙏
Gracias! La mayor parte del tiempo uso a Alonso en división y a Southgate en eventos. Si hubiera más jugadores de posesión, probablemente usaría más a Southgate.
@@jonnathanjulioguadagnoverg365 Me refiero a jugadores que utilizan el estilo de juego de posesión (Guardiola). Mi español es muy malo, estoy usando un traductor.
Hey! You can try it, but with LBC, you'll lose the main feature of pressuring with many players far up, because as soon as you lose the ball, players will pull back (LBC) instead of pressuring the ball carrier (QC). It's most likely playable, but it would be very different to what's shown in the video. If you're a good LBC player and are capable of defending with 3 CBs, it should work out. What would be important in this case is what the second DMF does and whether you actually need him there or could trade him for a player in another position. It's really hard to say that without seeing it in action. Also, for LBC, a defensive instruction will probably be good even on destroyers. The thing about the second DMF (the one that's no anchor man) is that I suspect (assuming no defensive instruction) that he wouldn't be moving up far enough quick enough to be as useful offensively as a CMF would be, but also wouldn't be as far back as an anchor man or even defender would be, so he'd be kinda mehing around the pitch😂, which would leave you with 2 options: 1) Trade him for a 4th defender, stabilizing your defense. 2) Trade him for a CMF (or even forward if you like to play with forwards) to strengthen your offense. It's all hypothetical though, I haven't seen this formation in LBC in action, so take my advice with a grain of salt, I could be wrong. Playing offensive 3 CB formations means that you essentially trade defensive power for offensive one, but not in a 1:1 ratio. It's like diminishing returns, where the more attacking players you have, the smaller the impact of adding another one is, but also the greater the negative impact would be for your defense. Depending on how good a player (the one on the controller, not the one in the game) is, this gambit might pay off for them or not. If you're very good at defending and can compensate for the missing 4th defender and if you're also good at utilizing the additional midfielder, it will work out. If you're better than your opponent, it will make you win the game even harder. If you can make use of the additional midfielder as opposed to 4 ATB, it'll pay off, but if not, then it's probably better to just use the sub tactic I showed for LBC. I hope this wasn't all too confusing. Keep in mind it's just my opinion though. While I can tell you a lot about this formation in Quick Counter because I've played a few seasons with it, I can only hypothetically assume how it would play out with LBC. Formation guide for the LBC sub tactic is here: ua-cam.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/v-deo.html
I'd say it's probably most ideal, but I've also used a hole player there. It changes the dynamics of the formation a little, but you'll still be fine. I think between box to box player and hole player it's less about good or bad but just different. I also made a few games with an orchestrator, was alright as well.
Nice formation… Firstly, I was doubtful… but, it’s great… But, I want to know perfect individual instructions of this formation… which makes it this more deadly…
Hey, thanks! It's situational, as explained in the video. The only thing I'd always do is defensive on any DMF that's no anchor man or destroyer. Deep-line on the defensively better DMF if the gap between defense and midfield is too big.
I play in mobile so basically I can't use sub tactics because Konami still didn't put this feature in the mobile version. What instructions should I use at my players?
Deep line instruction only if you struggle with the gap between your midfield and your attack, defensive for any defensive midfielder who is not an anchor man or a destroyer.
Ich versuche die selbe Aufstellung mit meinem Real Madrid Squad leider sind in dem Squad nicht alle spielertypen vorhanden.. mal schauen wie es wird... 👌
@@PESPepe Danke👍👍👍 ja ich möchte meine Mannschaft schon so Original wie möglich haben. Die Abwehr ist natürlich jetzt nicht so stark bis auf Carlos und Rüdiger. Aber ansonsten bis auf Raul habe ich soweit alles.. Makelele Beckham Van Nistelroy Kaka Sneijder Casillas etc. Mit Milan genau das selbe, nur Cafu fehlt mir noch ansonsten alles Original. Schade das kein Gatusso mal aufm Markt kommt. Zudem bin ich eher Ballbesitz Spieler und möchte mit den Squads auch beim originalen Spielstil bleiben. Bin kurz vor Div 1 aber gegen Meta Alonso, hast du halt in der Abwehr bei Ballbesitz (Guardiola) deine Probleme.. Ich lass nen Feedback da wenn ich es ausprobiert habe 👌☝️
@@PESPepe Also ich habe die Aufstellung gerade ausprobiert. nur 1:0 verloren gegen einen Top 1000 Div Player der mit einer 5 er Kette gespielt hat.. funktioniert dies auch mit zwei Stoßtürmern im Zentrum ?? Denn Hoeneß arbeitet eigentlich aus sehr gut nach hinten den probiere ich jetzt mal aus..
I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I'll get to it to be honest, there are a couple of other things I'll have to do right now. I'll most likely be able to do more player training guides soon though.
Thanks! To be honest, it depends what kind of video it is. If it's a review, that means I've tested this exact player extensively over many (sometimes several hundred) games. If I'm making a quick training guide, especially when it's new epic players which we can hardly get all due to the cost, I'll craft my build(s) according to what I think the player excels at and what he should be doing in my formation. On top of that, I consider experience that I have with similar players who have already done that for me. So while I don't actually test the exact player, I do try to incorporate the in-game behavior of other players that are similar, which hasn't let me down so far. I'd be lying if I said I tested every player I ever talked about or released a build for (I'd need quite the funds for that😀), I'll be honest with you about that. The most important thing you said and I couldn't agree more with is that someone else's training might not be for you. Everybody plays differently, one build might be amazing for one person but inefficient for somebody else.
Defensive on any DMF that is not an anchor man or destroyer, deep line on the one that is better defensively if your opponent passes to his strikers quickly and skips your midfield.
Hello Ricardo! It's situational, as explained in the video. The only thing I'd always do is defensive on any DMF that's no anchor man or destroyer. Deep-line on the defensively better DMF if the gap between defense and midfield is too big.
To be fair I've never played mobile so I'm afraid I can't actually say how it translates, but I think there were a few comments from mobile players already who have tried it.
He's not in the shop, i think you have to buy him from the 'packs' section when he's available. But right now they have Stojkovic and De la Fuente for 500 coins. Stojkovic has 'quick counter' too, just as good
Hey! It means that the surrounding players run towards the opponent that's carrying the ball as soon as your team lost possession. It's done automatically when you're using the quick counter playstyle. The only thing you do is put the player you control in a good position to contribute to it, like blocking a passing lane or making the space tight for the ball carrier of your opponent.
Hello! I don't play possession much, but generally, if you really want to play possession possession rather than possession-playstyle-but-I-still-throughball-all-the-time, I'd go for a 4-3-3 with 1 DMF, 2 CMFs and 2 wing forwards. Can use the wing forwards as midfielders if they're getting marked. That's what most possession players I ever had trouble with played. The key is to play a very wide formation so you always have somewhere to pass. If you used a narrow formation for possession, you'd limit yourself because most of your options would be close, but you want to have wide options to make sure you don't have to pass next to Vieira or Zakaria that often. Ideally, you'll pass around, shifting the opponents players in a disadvantageous position and then use the open space to make the game quick in the last third.
Should be fine👍I think it'll only be worse if you rely a lot on dribbling & small turns, but then again, that would be for any formation in my opinion.
Hey! You can play without any if you like. I sometimes use counter-target on Messi when I want to keep his stamina up because I can't replace him. It actually makes the dynamics of the formation a bit worse though since he won't help press then, so I'd only do it if you have a forward that's absolutely irreplaceable for you. Other than that, it's as I said in the video, defensive for any DMF that's neither anchor man nor destroyer, and optionally, if your opponent plays fast and skips the midfield, leaving you with a too big gap between your defence and your midfield, deep line on the DMF that's better defensively.
Thank you very much! You can try, but it'll be a lot different than shown in video. Somebody else has already asked about LBC, so I'll just copypaste what I wrote there since it'll probably be interesting for you as well: Hey! You can try it, but with LBC, you'll lose the main feature of pressuring with many players far up, because as soon as you lose the ball, players will pull back (LBC) instead of pressuring the ball carrier (QC). It's most likely playable, but it would be very different to what's shown in the video. If you're a good LBC player and are capable of defending with 3 CBs, it should work out. What would be important in this case is what the second DMF does and whether you actually need him there or could trade him for a player in another position. It's really hard to say that without seeing it in action. Also, for LBC, a defensive instruction will probably be good even on destroyers. The thing about the second DMF (the one that's no anchor man) is that I suspect (assuming no defensive instruction) that he wouldn't be moving up far enough quick enough to be as useful offensively as a CMF would be, but also wouldn't be as far back as an anchor man or even defender would be, so he'd be kinda mehing around the pitch😂, which would leave you with 2 options: 1) Trade him for a 4th defender, stabilizing your defense. 2) Trade him for a CMF (or even forward if you like to play with forwards) to strengthen your offense. It's all hypothetical though, I haven't seen this formation in LBC in action, so take my advice with a grain of salt, I could be wrong. Playing offensive 3 CB formations means that you essentially trade defensive power for offensive one, but not in a 1:1 ratio. It's like diminishing returns, where the more attacking players you have, the smaller the impact of adding another one is, but also the greater the negative impact would be for your defense. Depending on how good a player (the one on the controller, not the one in the game) is, this gambit might pay off for them or not. If you're very good at defending and can compensate for the missing 4th defender and if you're also good at utilizing the additional midfielder, it will work out. If you're better than your opponent, it will make you win the game even harder. If you can make use of the additional midfielder as opposed to 4 ATB, it'll pay off, but if not, then it's probably better to just use the sub tactic I showed for LBC. I hope this wasn't all too confusing. Keep in mind it's just my opinion though. While I can tell you a lot about this formation in Quick Counter because I've played a few seasons with it, I can only hypothetically assume how it would play out with LBC. Formation guide for the LBC sub tactic is here: ua-cam.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/v-deo.html
Just quickly went to get something to drink and so many likes in such a short time already! You people are awesome, thanks😻
you deserve it man
Thank you for the nice words, trying my best💪
Keep up the good work man👍
Thanks, I'll see what I can do🙏
The most complete efootball contenter. Always a great balance between sharp insight and entertainment
Thank you very much for these nice words!
I tried it in mobile version. Even though I was very doubtful as I have trouble defending with 5 CBs, so what can 3 CBs do I thought. To my pleasant surprise, I played the game very well. Defensively it's very solid with superb attacking (long through passing). I used LBC playstyle with Deschamps as the manager.
Bro you really cooked with this. Ive got Godric as left AMF, Bellingham as CMF and Silva as right AMF with Makelele and Kante as DMFs. Its kinda crazy.
The new Neymar and Copa America Messi on top with OG L. Hernandez, Saliba and Costacurta in defense.
Love to hear it's working out for you! Great squad you buil there💪
I’m gonna try this lineup
Brooo you just leaked my secret to the whole world!😂 I’ve been using this formation with great success in divs got the 15W badge with this. I use LBC tho and I’m a mobile player🎉 Great content
Oops. Don't worry, odds are it won't be the whole world viewing the video😂 Thanks for the compliment! Great to hear you're having success💪
what's your game username?
what's your game username?
@@UR.6IX9INE Elo___
Hey bro..
Mobile user + LBC player here as well!
Can you share your squad set up in brief as well like players you use ?
Would like to try
Thanks and cheers
I have very less cards.
I dont have a DLF, a good destroyer DMF or speedy defensive fullbacks.
What alternatives or base cards can i use
been playing this formation since 2024 release i would suggest you try 2 orchestraters 1 in AMF and 1 in CMF position other AMF should be creative playmaker... your both CF should be changed to SS cause AI control of them will make them way more attack orientated when you are not controlling them... put your AMF's to max forwards and CMF on free space between AMF's and DMF's... cheers
Whats max forwards how you do that to Amf
Ive been suing this formation since this video and I gotta say it’s been the most useful formation I’ve ever used. My interception numbers be insane and I’m creating so many chances to score goals.
Love to hear🙏
Pepe your video training style is exemplary. Just noticed how you start with gameplay and then go into the details.
Found it a lot easier to comprehend the Why in your thesis.
Thanks for great content and keeping us all on form sir 🎉
Thank you very much, glad to hear you like it👍As you said, I'm trying to give a good overview of the idea and the concept in the beginning, then go through each individual position's detail💪
Would love 3ATB but most people play either 4213 with wingers and/or possession, find it very hard to overcome the outside players without fullbacks
Bro thank you so much for this ... This helped me get over a very long dry spell ... Got to division 2 with it . Thanks alot
Congratulations, nice to hear👍
Tried it today I'm on a 7 game win streak
Congratulations, keep going, nice to hear💪
I've been losing on div 2 like 10 consecutive matches no matter what formation i tried, my squad strengh is 3114 .
First game on this formation i beat a guy with 3205 strength
Thanks so much
Nice, love to hear that💪
@@PESPepe just found out i dont have any good box to box players just totw pablo torre and free spain fabian but theyre doing the job
Btw I use 3 defensive fullbacks as cbs but theyre kinda short
Is it okay to use build up Saliba as CB?
I'd say yes, I've used him a couple of times too!
YAASSS HERES COMES PEPE!
💪💪💪💪
Awesome work bro 🎉
Thank you very much💪
I've started playing efootball in pc just 3 weeks ago. don't have players to try this formation, but will try in efootball mobile
I think that in this game, especially Mobile, the best attack is with 4 forwards in line but on the sides there are sprinters like Leao, Chiesa, Son and in midfield 2 physically strong midfielders with defensive skills like Rodri, Onana and Viera.
On the mobile version, using this formation by having 3 cmf and 1 rmf, upfront 1 amf and 2 strikers. Am on a winning streak as well
Nice, congratulations!💪
einfach krank 😂😂😂😂
geiles Video.
Go on!!!!
Danke dir für die netten Worte Fadil💪
he's bloody back !!
welcome brodie
Glad to be back, thanks for the warm welcome😁
Gonna use this!
Accidentally came across your post. Glad we have the same idea.
Nice!
bro the grass and the lightning on your game is so vivid do u use the ultra graphics mod ??
Hey! I don't use any mods at all, it must all be the game itself, no credit to me😀 Maybe it's the stadium? I play all of my home games in the Allianz Arena.
great job again brother!
Thank you very much!
Can u make a video about possession style?
definitely gonna try this! looks so fun
It is! Hope you'll find success👍
I played a 343 (2 dm 2 am 2 wingers 1 cf) out wife and that worked as well, i will try this
Amazing Amazing, just one question special tactis ia defensive to cmd and thats alll?
Hello, thanks! It's situational, as explained in the video. The only thing I'd always do is defensive on any DMF that's no anchor man or destroyer. Deep-line on the defensively better DMF if the gap between defense and midfield is too big.
Hi Pepe! Can the two DMFs have Anchor Man playing styles? I have a Gilberto Silva and an Amadou Onana but no good destroyer DMFs in my team. Thanks :)
Hello! To be honest, I've never tried it, but I see no reason why not🙏
Great video man! Looking forward to trying this out. How viable is Drift Wide as a tactic? And do you know the best formations and roles to get the most out of it?
Thanks! I know a somebody who used it before the last update, but sure how it currently is. Probably needs wingers to make the game wide and drag the defense apart and then cmfs/amfs that move up to use the free space and either get something done on their own or give it to one of the strikers. I'm really not an expert on Out Wide though💪
Great content as always 💪
Thank you very much, trying my best🙏
Can i use long ball (Gerrard) and this formation for good results??
I used this after I was on a 5 loosing streak and I’m making my comeback. Only problem is I’m having the same problem as in 11:14. Once they’re behind the line it’s hard to start attacking again
I think that's one of the most challenging parts since playing with 3 high up CBs is pretty unusual. It's just a matter of experience though, since the game is very different from defending with long ball counter. When I switched, I also took a few games to defend properly, don't worry😀Good luck for your comeback💪
Great video. Quick question for the cmf. Is better a weaker b2b or bellingham hp. Instead of bellingham as cmf i could use camavinga or silva. Whats your toughts about? Thx
Thanks! I think all of the cards you mentioned can work. Hole Player Bellingham should be alright. I sometimes use Maradona in this position who's horrible defensively, but it still works. He's usually a different position than a box to box player would be so the long breakthrough run through the middle doesn't really appear in this way, but he's still a menace to deal with, just differently than Bellingham.
Parabéns pelo seu trabalho, vou testar essa formação.
Obrigado cara, espero q vc vai ganhar com isso🙏
@@PESPepe Como posso falar com você? Sou do Brasil.
Eh mais facil na secao do comentarios do UA-cam, eu leio com bastante frequencia, mas meu Portugues eh muito ruim.
Ohhh it's like how my man @jibrules was talking about modern CAMs
They'll pass around, create space and opportunity and drop wide to act as wingers at times (Like Bellingoal & Musilala😮)
Great vid Pepe❤❤
Best formation hands down❤ love from Jamaica 🇯🇲 ❤
Thank you very much🙏
Thanks for this super video. I play the similaar formation but instead 2 amf's i have cmfs and your cmf is my amf. What do you think are the differences ? Thanks
Thank you very much for the nice comment! If you also use QC, the differences probably aren't very big assuming you use similar playstyles.
You might not be able to do the offensive pattern runs as much because an AMF in the middle might be too far up and will not only grab the attention of the defenders earlier, but since he'll also be starting his run further up, he'll carry less speed when reaching the point of the defensive line. This isn't really a big problem though, you'll just have a different passing option this way.
I've used a CMF in place of one of the AMFs (Samuel Lino because he has no proficiency in AMF) and he was doing fine. It's hard to say how it'll play out exactly without seeing it, but there's a chance he might overlap a bit later, but that's less a thing of good or bad but more of a different way to play a situation.
In general, since players don't only move according to their registered positions but also in relation to where the opponent's players (or your own players, in case of attacking) are, without seeing it (I could be wrong), I'd say your formation won't be too different.
I play like that in default formations its more about the person who is in control
Hi pepe, great video as always, please what about playing against the meta formations ? is it solide?
Thanks! Absolutely, I even used the term anti meta due to the massive pressure you can exert around the middle. The formation is excellent against center heavy play, which most formations in eFootball have been about. It's a bit weaker against excessive wing play or a competent possession player (fortunately, they're a rare species😁), but I've shown simple ways to deal with this in the weaknesses & sub tactics chapter. I love this formation, been using it almost exclusively for like 4 seasons. It's also great fun!
Is there anyway to include one oschestrator in this formation? i have some i really don't want to leave out of my team like Veron and Endo
Hey Raquel! Thanks for keeping all the skills for me. If you want to use an orchestrator, it's probably best as a CMF. Using them as a DMF won't break the formation either but you'd probably be a bit weaker as orchestrators usually aren't bulky interceptors. Best is just to try if it fits your playstyle👍
@@PESPepe Appreciate it bro!
You're welcome💪
Hello Pepe!
Do you think I can use the new b2b Matthaus in this formation? Since he is more defensive orientated, could he be usefull here?
Hello! Should work fine👍
Idk but I’m using base kante with his wild defensive stats but when I’m defending he’s always in the wrong position
Brilliant video has always 🔥🔥🔥, I was wondering what cursor change you are using and if it’s ball or player
Thank you very much! Unfortunately, I don't know that out of my head😂I'll probably get into the game later tonight and check it out for you. If I fail to remember, feel free to leave me another message.
Apologies for the delay, I've checked it out now, I use player-oriented switching😀
This is great and really good fun , it’s made enjoy it a little bit more , great content
Thank you very much, so glad to hear you're enjoying it💪
Great …what camera angle do u use …thanks
Thanks! I use dynamic wide (custom) with 2 zoom and 10 height.
@@PESPepe thank you 🙏
Wow! My 3ATB walk-through is here.
I've gone through the whole video and I've created the setup with the given guidelines. Just that i added Beckenbeur as the third CB. I added him all because I'm short of a defensive fullback who can move freely with the ball and deal with aerial threats as well ( I'm thinking of bringing back my base Tomiyasu tho). The three CBs are Costacurta x OG base hernandez x Beck. I have Destroyer Gimenez and legend Maldini on the bench.
In midfield, i added the IM Vieira(Box to Box) with defensive instructions. Do you think he'll handle the business despite not being a Destroyer? I must make mention of the deepline instruction on my Anchor man Zakaria.
The only problem I'm having is the QC playstyle and I'm still contemplating on switching back to LBC or do you recommend OUTWIDE? I'm trying to take advantage of the ALL-OUT-DEFENCE and the aggressive pressing from OW since LBC is too passive for me. What do you suggest? The plan is to stick to the LBC tho.
You know, the mobile platform has no room for subtatics and more reasons why its hard to set up the QC for both 3 & 4 ATB at the same time.
If it's the nominating contract Giménez, I've used that one for a while, I'd put him in the middle if any of the others aren't available. If the OG base Hernandez is the fast original base Lucas Hernandez, then congratulations on having that one, it was way ahead of it's time😁
I've played no style Costacurta alongside box to box Zakaria for a while, so also no destroyer, it should be fine.
I'd only use the deep-line instruction if you desperately need to close the gap shown in the weaknesses & sub tactics chapter though, because the player that's coming back is no longer participating in pressuring the opponent up front. This does make sense if your opponent manages to quickly skip the midfield (because then the pressure can't stop him anyway), but if he can't you might want to have the second DMF up there as well to exert greater pressure and to have him up there for interceptions.
With this formation, I'd stick to Quick Counter. I lack experience with Out Wide to give you a serious analysis about it to be honest. It could would, but I have no idea if it will, it could also monumentally fail😂
About Long Ball Counter, someone asked that earlier today and I wrote him a detailed reply about it, it probably helps you as well. If you can't find it, let me know so I'll find it and paste it to you.
That's too bad, I really hope they'll add sub tactics for mobile.
@@PESPepe Yes, it's the nominating contract Gimenez and i must confess that he's one of the most trusted Destroyer CB I've ever used. Yes! The OG base hernandez from efootball 21 and he's up there competing with most of these epic cards in the present game 😂
I've seen people play either Costacurta or Beckenbeur as their DMF but i prefer an anchor man( especially after watching your video that addresses the leg length 😉) and most importantly, I want someone whose presence can be felt in both the midfield and the near box to stop attacks.
I guess I'll have to stick to the QC since it's aggressive enough to take advantage of the front line pressing. On the other side, i added the deepline instruction on Zakaria just to provide an extra man in defence because most people tend to spam through balls to the wings and also crosses into the box. I think I'll have to take extra precautions on how to deal with that at the coming days.
On the other side, OUT WIDE playstyle is fun to use. It's one of those underrated playstyles and people would rather play the fast and effective means to get the goals. It's all about the fun for me and I do not take it to heart whenever i lose or something. I just want to have fun lol
Maybe it's a bit different on mobile, you probably know better than me if the deep line instruction helps you there. Zakaria is a menace, absolutely love him, 500 games with the B2B POTW card, and now using the show time card. Would love to give you some feedback on out wide, but haven't used it enough🙁
Absolutely! Fun is the most important thing. This formation is also the most fun for me, because of all the offensive possibilities and defensive challenges. It's the most fun I've ever had!
@@PESPepe Well, both the mobile and the console platform are basically the same mechanism. The only difference is the freedom to make use of multiple commands on the pad compared to tapping the phone screen aggressively 😂
The deepline instruction comes in whenever I'm facing opponents with 442 or 424 formation since they tend to outnumber my defence easily. So, Zakaria is there to help out but on a normal day, if my opponent is playing down the middle, i play without the instruction.
I've been a big fan the 3ATB formation and i like the numbers in attack and how i laugh at myself whenever the i fail to utilise my chances and my opponents has a turnover.
You should try out the outwide playstyle. I'm sure you'll have enough fun while playing it. Especially if you play with wingers.
Can understand why you'd use deep line there, as long as it helps, why not😀
I accidentally made this formation yesterday and then today I see this in my feed
Hello Pepe
Amazing video as always...!
Would like to know what camera angle and settings do you use??
Also can you share your best build for this B2B Bellingham?
Thank you very much! I use dynamic wide (custom) 2 zoom 10 height. What settings do you exactly mean?
@@PESPepe Thanks 👍
Yes I meant camera settings
can i use "Zietler" instead of Xabi ?
Absolutely!
Hey man!I have a few questions
1.I dont have bellingham 😭 Any other good affordable suggestions,my best box to box is enzo fernandez but his finishing is lacking (67 😭)do you hink this will matter too much?
2.Hownmuch does speed matter for the dmfs,i need someone to pair with gilberto silva,and have gp kante,england pack rice,alaba and beckenbaur,which one do i use?
3.Between your potw bernado,potw pedri,england pack bellingham,Potw kulusevki(from777 pack),Van der vaart,rafa silva potw(booster) and potw joao felix what duo would you suggest?
Anyways giant fan of your vida and im glad your back bro
Hello! Thanks for the nice words.
1. If he has enough speed, you could still try it. As shown in the video, Bellingham also did some nice passes to tap-in and doesn't necessarily have to finish himself. It could be a bit of a problem if you have a smart opponent who knows that Fernandez won't be finishing, but other than that, I'd give it a try. As long as he has a solid speed and dribbling stat and is also capable defensively, he'll be okay.
I sometimes use the paid Maradona as an alternative, needs a position trainer though (although switching it to AMF would most likely not break the formation). It changes the dynamics of the formation a bit, but him (or any hole player at his level) will do absolutely fine. You'd be a bit weaker defensively though. Since you've mentioned the English pack Bellingham, that one should do alright as well.
Since you've mentioned GP Kanté below, in my national team matches, I used him in the CMF position for a nice, more defensive variant. Worse offensively, but, apart from his size & short legs, a valid option.
2. It differs a little. For the initial part where you are attacking and standing far up, acceleration is more important than speed because they'll only run a little portion and then try to intercept. When the opponent is past that line, speed matters more because your DMFs have to catch up.
I've used nominating contract Rodri as an anchor man alternative, he's pretty slow but was doing alright, so I guess while it isn't ideal, not having great acceleration and speed doesn't mean a player is absolutely unusable. I guess Ryce should be able to do what Rodri does as well. I'd definitely also give Beckenbauer a try, I can see that working. Not sure about Alaba, I don't really remember any cards of him right now, sorry.
3. I'm not sure if I have all the correct cards in my head, but as a right offensive midfielder, absolutely Bernardo. I use him over Maradona and Griezmann, he is just the total package for this position. I'd probably go for the england pack Bellingham, but I think the others should do alright as well.
Hope it helped!
@@PESPepe thank you so much bro!
@@ShaunMbati You're welcome💪
Keep up the good work keep making vids please you are great
Thank you very much! Always nice to hear😀
What does the no play style player mean? His bernado was box-to-box no?
Yes, he is a box-to-box player, but AMF is a position where it doesn't activate, so he will be without playstyle😃
@@PESPepe oh i get it now thanks . I’ll be sure to try this out
@@swev3npubgm664 Nice, hope you'll find success💪
Nice! I'll try
Thanks! Good luck💪
What combo would you recommend for purely free to play player? Like Rodri as anchor , but struggling to find a partner. And if we don't have nom contract Bellingham, who else is good?
Zakaria is amazing if you happen to have a POTW of him. Costacurta is a very solid option, Tchouaméni works fine, base Kanté is always an option in case you don't have anyone else. I think Beckenbauer should also do alright. They'll be worse interceptors than Zakaria/Vieira due to their physique, but should still be able to do a good job.
Instead of Bellingham, if you don't have any similar player (other Bellinghams like the England pack one or the bicycle kick POTW are good replacements), you could always go for a hole player. Of course many of them will be bad defensively, but we can't have it all, right?💪
@PESPepeShould I buy base Bellingham for CMF, or use potw Valverde (99) and Gavi (98) who are box2box
Also should I buy a base destroyed did?
Do you think it would work with 1 lwf/lmf/rwf/rmf instead of two amfs?
I'd say not so great for LWF/RWF, but should be okay for LMF/RMF, depending on their playstyle. I'd place them as close to the center as you can.
Could I use orchestrator Pirlo and/or Matthaus? And if yes, in whose place?
They'd probably be most suited for the CMF position, but it'll play a bit differently then.
Awesome Bro.... 🎉🎉🎉
Glad you like it🙏
@@PESPepe I'm trying it right now, a bit hard lol 😂😂😂
If you've never played with 3 CBs (especially in Quick Counter) before, it can be a bit hard to get into😀
@@PESPepe exactly, need to be very patient on defense LOL
@@PESPepe exactly, need to be very patient on defense LOL
It’s unbelievable trick!!!!! Its work
Do you have baressi training guide?
i have a question can i make try 1 of the cf as a SS
thx
I hereby officially grant you permission to do it. It works fine, I've done it before😁
@@PESPepe thx for the official confirmation
i shall most definitely try this
I'm sure you'll do fine💪
could u please tell me ,which pass level u used ,thank u
Hey! I use PA2.
thanks a lot.really good
Pepe eres una makina,es una pena que tus videos no tengan subtitulos pues mi ingles es pesimo y no entiendo nada.si pudieras dejarme por escrito las sinergias de los jugadores que utilizas asi como las posiciones de cada jugador seria fantastico.pepe thanks!
Hola! Gracias por las lindas palabras! UA-cam tiene una opción donde puedes traducir automáticamente los subtítulos a tu idioma, creo que debería funcionar bien, tal vez esto te ayude!
@@PESPepe gracias pepe eres un fenomeno absoluto,lo desconocia lo mirare de nuevo.eres un crack haciendo filigranas a mi no me sale ni la croqueta jeje
Gracias! Está en algún lugar de la configuración de vídeo, parece un pequeño engranaje.
Te voy a poner mi equipo titular.
Dibu martinez
Costacurta
Saliba
Jules kounde
Rodri
Edgar davids
Deco por izquierda MP organizador
Bellingham jugador de huecos por el centro
Bernardo silva box to box por derecha
Ney y messi arriba.
Obviamente me hacen falta mas box to box con corte ofensivo,tengo kante y declan rice tbien y el nuevo goreztka
What kind of individual instructions do you set for each player?
With my best formation, sometimes counter-target on Messi (but that's only because I have nobody to replace him, it actually makes the formation a bit worse because he doesn't press the). Other than that, as the video says. defensive for any DMF that's not an anchor man or destroyer. Deep-line on the defensively better DMF if your opponent skips the midfield and the hole between your lines is too big. Man marking for the sub tactic.
@@PESPepe Can I play this system as a long ball counter?
I used this formation in my rtg team consisting mostly of A form players and it works really well. I often find myself switching to a free to play team just for fun and to try out new players.
I hesitate trying this formation with my main team mostly because i use Lahm as a right/left back and I wouldn't have a third CB. And Lahm always starts 😂😂 I wish you could give Lahm CB 😉.
Fun is always the most important thing! You could always use Lahm as DMF if he absolutely has to start😃
can this work with lbc ?
Hey! You can try it, but with LBC, you'll lose the main feature of pressuring with many players far up, because as soon as you lose the ball, players will pull back (LBC) instead of pressuring the ball carrier (QC). It's most likely playable, but it would be very different to what's shown in the video.
If you're a good LBC player and are capable of defending with 3 CBs, it should work out. What would be important in this case is what the second DMF does and whether you actually need him there or could trade him for a player in another position. It's really hard to say that without seeing it in action. Also, for LBC, a defensive instruction will probably be good even on destroyers.
The thing about the second DMF (the one that's no anchor man) is that I suspect (assuming no defensive instruction) that he wouldn't be moving up far enough quick enough to be as useful offensively as a CMF would be, but also wouldn't be as far back as an anchor man or even defender would be, so he'd be kinda mehing around the pitch😂, which would leave you with 2 options:
1) Trade him for a 4th defender, stabilizing your defense.
2) Trade him for a CMF (or even forward if you like to play with forwards) to strengthen your offense.
It's all hypothetical though, I haven't seen this formation in LBC in action, so take my advice with a grain of salt, I could be wrong.
Playing offensive 3 CB formations means that you essentially trade defensive power for offensive one, but not in a 1:1 ratio. It's like diminishing returns, where the more attacking players you have, the smaller the impact of adding another one is, but also the greater the negative impact would be for your defense. Depending on how good a player (the one on the controller, not the one in the game) is, this gambit might pay off for them or not. If you're very good at defending and can compensate for the missing 4th defender and if you're also good at utilizing the additional midfielder, it will work out.
If you're better than your opponent, it will make you win the game even harder. If you can make use of the additional midfielder as opposed to 4 ATB, it'll pay off, but if not, then it's probably better to just use the sub tactic I showed for LBC.
I hope this wasn't all too confusing. Keep in mind it's just my opinion though. While I can tell you a lot about this formation in Quick Counter because I've played a few seasons with it, I can only hypothetically assume how it would play out with LBC.
Formation guide for the LBC sub tactic is here: ua-cam.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/v-deo.html
@@PESPepe tysm
@@aliahl4753 You're welcome, hope it helps😀
Hablo español y youtube me recomendó este video, tengo unas dudas
Qué significa No/Gp?
B2B es el estilo de juego de Bellignham?
La izquierda de Bellignham puede ir cualquier estilo excepto Hole player?
Hola Adrian! Intentaré responder con un traductor.
No/GP significa un jugador sin un estilo activado en esta posición o un cazador furtivo de goles. Bellingham es un jugador de caja a caja, sí. También puedes usar un jugador de hoyo aquí, cambiará un poco la formación, pero aún así funciona. Espero que haya ayudado🙏
Gracias por la formación, es muy divertida de jugar y encima funciona de 10
De nada, feliz de que ayude🙏
Wings in there or 4 infront and u wont be able to defend unless u chamge the formation..ill always have a player more when im attacking
Alternatives to Jude? I dont have him...
Thanks for that i will use that bro. For me you are the best efootball youtuber.
Thanks man, that's very nice to hear🙏
Excelente video gracias por la explicacion que DT utilizas xavi alonso o el de la seleccion de inglaterra
Gracias! La mayor parte del tiempo uso a Alonso en división y a Southgate en eventos. Si hubiera más jugadores de posesión, probablemente usaría más a Southgate.
@@PESPepe cuáles son los jugadores de posesión
@@jonnathanjulioguadagnoverg365 Me refiero a jugadores que utilizan el estilo de juego de posesión (Guardiola). Mi español es muy malo, estoy usando un traductor.
@@PESPepe tranquilo comprendo pense que eran jugadores en especial mañan probare esa formacion
Can I use long counter for this formation? I only have Zeitler and Deschamps
Hey! You can try it, but with LBC, you'll lose the main feature of pressuring with many players far up, because as soon as you lose the ball, players will pull back (LBC) instead of pressuring the ball carrier (QC). It's most likely playable, but it would be very different to what's shown in the video.
If you're a good LBC player and are capable of defending with 3 CBs, it should work out. What would be important in this case is what the second DMF does and whether you actually need him there or could trade him for a player in another position. It's really hard to say that without seeing it in action. Also, for LBC, a defensive instruction will probably be good even on destroyers.
The thing about the second DMF (the one that's no anchor man) is that I suspect (assuming no defensive instruction) that he wouldn't be moving up far enough quick enough to be as useful offensively as a CMF would be, but also wouldn't be as far back as an anchor man or even defender would be, so he'd be kinda mehing around the pitch😂, which would leave you with 2 options:
1) Trade him for a 4th defender, stabilizing your defense.
2) Trade him for a CMF (or even forward if you like to play with forwards) to strengthen your offense.
It's all hypothetical though, I haven't seen this formation in LBC in action, so take my advice with a grain of salt, I could be wrong.
Playing offensive 3 CB formations means that you essentially trade defensive power for offensive one, but not in a 1:1 ratio. It's like diminishing returns, where the more attacking players you have, the smaller the impact of adding another one is, but also the greater the negative impact would be for your defense. Depending on how good a player (the one on the controller, not the one in the game) is, this gambit might pay off for them or not. If you're very good at defending and can compensate for the missing 4th defender and if you're also good at utilizing the additional midfielder, it will work out.
If you're better than your opponent, it will make you win the game even harder. If you can make use of the additional midfielder as opposed to 4 ATB, it'll pay off, but if not, then it's probably better to just use the sub tactic I showed for LBC.
I hope this wasn't all too confusing. Keep in mind it's just my opinion though. While I can tell you a lot about this formation in Quick Counter because I've played a few seasons with it, I can only hypothetically assume how it would play out with LBC.
Formation guide for the LBC sub tactic is here: ua-cam.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/v-deo.html
Does the cmf have to be box to box
I'd say it's probably most ideal, but I've also used a hole player there. It changes the dynamics of the formation a little, but you'll still be fine. I think between box to box player and hole player it's less about good or bad but just different. I also made a few games with an orchestrator, was alright as well.
Nice formation…
Firstly, I was doubtful… but, it’s great…
But, I want to know perfect individual instructions of this formation… which makes it this more deadly…
Hey, thanks! It's situational, as explained in the video. The only thing I'd always do is defensive on any DMF that's no anchor man or destroyer. Deep-line on the defensively better DMF if the gap between defense and midfield is too big.
10:49. What that" None" on Messi means pls ?
Hello! It means that he has an inactive playstyle. He is a roaming flank, a playstyle which does not activate when used as CF.
It's like using a box-to-box as a fullback or as a centre-back ?
Yes, exactly!
I play in mobile so basically I can't use sub tactics because Konami still didn't put this feature in the mobile version. What instructions should I use at my players?
Deep line instruction only if you struggle with the gap between your midfield and your attack, defensive for any defensive midfielder who is not an anchor man or a destroyer.
@@PESPepe aight thanks man! Hope you're doing great!🙌🏻
@@arisuwanz I'm fine, thanks, hope you too💪
Ich versuche die selbe Aufstellung mit meinem Real Madrid Squad leider sind in dem Squad nicht alle spielertypen vorhanden.. mal schauen wie es wird... 👌
Viel Erfolg👍Finds geil, dass Leute auch andere Squads spielen, gerade wenn sie themen- oder vereinsbasiert sind🙏
@@PESPepe Danke👍👍👍 ja ich möchte meine Mannschaft schon so Original wie möglich haben. Die Abwehr ist natürlich jetzt nicht so stark bis auf Carlos und Rüdiger. Aber ansonsten bis auf Raul habe ich soweit alles.. Makelele Beckham Van Nistelroy Kaka Sneijder Casillas etc.
Mit Milan genau das selbe, nur Cafu fehlt mir noch ansonsten alles Original. Schade das kein Gatusso mal aufm Markt kommt.
Zudem bin ich eher Ballbesitz Spieler und möchte mit den Squads auch beim originalen Spielstil bleiben. Bin kurz vor Div 1 aber gegen Meta Alonso, hast du halt in der Abwehr bei Ballbesitz (Guardiola) deine Probleme..
Ich lass nen Feedback da wenn ich es ausprobiert habe 👌☝️
@@PESPepe Also ich habe die Aufstellung gerade ausprobiert. nur 1:0 verloren gegen einen Top 1000 Div Player der mit einer 5 er Kette gespielt hat.. funktioniert dies auch mit zwei Stoßtürmern im Zentrum ?? Denn Hoeneß arbeitet eigentlich aus sehr gut nach hinten den probiere ich jetzt mal aus..
@@husslenip9563 Wie meinst du genau, dass dann alle deine 3 offensiven Mittelfeldspieler Stoßstürmer sind?
Can you make a video about who is the best player in the free apic boosted pack and give us the best build for them
I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I'll get to it to be honest, there are a couple of other things I'll have to do right now. I'll most likely be able to do more player training guides soon though.
They are all very useful.
@@dannysmith8549 spot on with your assessment on pepe 👏 👌 👍
Thanks! To be honest, it depends what kind of video it is. If it's a review, that means I've tested this exact player extensively over many (sometimes several hundred) games. If I'm making a quick training guide, especially when it's new epic players which we can hardly get all due to the cost, I'll craft my build(s) according to what I think the player excels at and what he should be doing in my formation.
On top of that, I consider experience that I have with similar players who have already done that for me. So while I don't actually test the exact player, I do try to incorporate the in-game behavior of other players that are similar, which hasn't let me down so far. I'd be lying if I said I tested every player I ever talked about or released a build for (I'd need quite the funds for that😀), I'll be honest with you about that.
The most important thing you said and I couldn't agree more with is that someone else's training might not be for you. Everybody plays differently, one build might be amazing for one person but inefficient for somebody else.
Which of the dmfs is on defensive tactic and deep line
Defensive on any DMF that is not an anchor man or destroyer, deep line on the one that is better defensively if your opponent passes to his strikers quickly and skips your midfield.
That first opponent forgot there was a thing called clear, and just passed to your players😂
That might have been a more efficient solution, yeah😀
hey there, does this formation uses any player instructions?
Hello Ricardo! It's situational, as explained in the video. The only thing I'd always do is defensive on any DMF that's no anchor man or destroyer. Deep-line on the defensively better DMF if the gap between defense and midfield is too big.
Just tomorrow released this Bellingham and today watching this video😭😭
Basically a true gegenpress
I use (3-4-3) 2 destroyers and one fullback and one dmf
Can this formation be used when playing with mobile or it only works on the pc version?
To be fair I've never played mobile so I'm afraid I can't actually say how it translates, but I think there were a few comments from mobile players already who have tried it.
@@PESPepe oh I'll try it aswell then!
Good luck, hope you'll find success💪
why am I not seein this formation in my game? how do i umlock this formation please someone let me know
You can move the players to any position on the field you like, regardless which base formation you chose🙏
I play with the same formation but 4 CBs and 1 Dmf
I cant find Xabi alonso in the shop, what I can buy for the quick counter?
He's not in the shop, i think you have to buy him from the 'packs' section when he's available. But right now they have Stojkovic and De la Fuente for 500 coins. Stojkovic has 'quick counter' too, just as good
@@user-vw6bk4pb4l ok thanks
can i use 103 euro potw belligol?
Sure, nice player, used him a couple of times as well, mostly as left AMF.
this is my favorite formation on winning4
Hi bro, What is the command to press as soon as the opponent get the ball??
Hey! It means that the surrounding players run towards the opponent that's carrying the ball as soon as your team lost possession. It's done automatically when you're using the quick counter playstyle. The only thing you do is put the player you control in a good position to contribute to it, like blocking a passing lane or making the space tight for the ball carrier of your opponent.
What’s the best formation for possession style?
Hello! I don't play possession much, but generally, if you really want to play possession possession rather than possession-playstyle-but-I-still-throughball-all-the-time, I'd go for a 4-3-3 with 1 DMF, 2 CMFs and 2 wing forwards. Can use the wing forwards as midfielders if they're getting marked. That's what most possession players I ever had trouble with played.
The key is to play a very wide formation so you always have somewhere to pass. If you used a narrow formation for possession, you'd limit yourself because most of your options would be close, but you want to have wide options to make sure you don't have to pass next to Vieira or Zakaria that often. Ideally, you'll pass around, shifting the opponents players in a disadvantageous position and then use the open space to make the game quick in the last third.
Is these tactics still good in the new version of the game?
Should be fine👍I think it'll only be worse if you rely a lot on dribbling & small turns, but then again, that would be for any formation in my opinion.
I made this formation in one of my game plans months ago 😂 guess it’s time to use it… thanks Pepe❤
Hope you'll find success💪
Ay yo I have been using this for two weeks now too good against p2w merchants
What does hp/cp and no/hp and no/gp means
Hole Player / Creative Playmaker, No active style / Hole Playe,r and No active style / Goal Poacher.
Please tell individual instructions in this formation bro
Hey! You can play without any if you like. I sometimes use counter-target on Messi when I want to keep his stamina up because I can't replace him. It actually makes the dynamics of the formation a bit worse though since he won't help press then, so I'd only do it if you have a forward that's absolutely irreplaceable for you.
Other than that, it's as I said in the video, defensive for any DMF that's neither anchor man nor destroyer, and optionally, if your opponent plays fast and skips the midfield, leaving you with a too big gap between your defence and your midfield, deep line on the DMF that's better defensively.
This formation would not work against someone who is adopting a more wide formation with out wide playstyle. You would be annihilated!!
That’s when you go to your sub-tactic
Can i use this with lbc in mobile boss ❤
U got new subscriber😊
Thank you very much! You can try, but it'll be a lot different than shown in video. Somebody else has already asked about LBC, so I'll just copypaste what I wrote there since it'll probably be interesting for you as well:
Hey! You can try it, but with LBC, you'll lose the main feature of pressuring with many players far up, because as soon as you lose the ball, players will pull back (LBC) instead of pressuring the ball carrier (QC). It's most likely playable, but it would be very different to what's shown in the video.
If you're a good LBC player and are capable of defending with 3 CBs, it should work out. What would be important in this case is what the second DMF does and whether you actually need him there or could trade him for a player in another position. It's really hard to say that without seeing it in action. Also, for LBC, a defensive instruction will probably be good even on destroyers.
The thing about the second DMF (the one that's no anchor man) is that I suspect (assuming no defensive instruction) that he wouldn't be moving up far enough quick enough to be as useful offensively as a CMF would be, but also wouldn't be as far back as an anchor man or even defender would be, so he'd be kinda mehing around the pitch😂, which would leave you with 2 options:
1) Trade him for a 4th defender, stabilizing your defense.
2) Trade him for a CMF (or even forward if you like to play with forwards) to strengthen your offense.
It's all hypothetical though, I haven't seen this formation in LBC in action, so take my advice with a grain of salt, I could be wrong.
Playing offensive 3 CB formations means that you essentially trade defensive power for offensive one, but not in a 1:1 ratio. It's like diminishing returns, where the more attacking players you have, the smaller the impact of adding another one is, but also the greater the negative impact would be for your defense. Depending on how good a player (the one on the controller, not the one in the game) is, this gambit might pay off for them or not. If you're very good at defending and can compensate for the missing 4th defender and if you're also good at utilizing the additional midfielder, it will work out.
If you're better than your opponent, it will make you win the game even harder. If you can make use of the additional midfielder as opposed to 4 ATB, it'll pay off, but if not, then it's probably better to just use the sub tactic I showed for LBC.
I hope this wasn't all too confusing. Keep in mind it's just my opinion though. While I can tell you a lot about this formation in Quick Counter because I've played a few seasons with it, I can only hypothetically assume how it would play out with LBC.
Formation guide for the LBC sub tactic is here: ua-cam.com/video/K_A_qjkasfs/v-deo.html
@@PESPepe wow this great u are the best bro thanks for ur time and explanation ❤️🙏
Thanks, you're welcome🙏Hope it helps!
@@PESPepe definitely will try it out🙏❤️