Fringe 1x02 Reaction | The Same Old Story
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- We have our first tears and it only took TWO EPISODES 😅😭 So, that's a bit worrying!
But, I also got a chance to ramble about trauma and deep dive into character's psyche and it's only episode two, so that was exciting lol
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The dynamics of the relationships just keep getting better. The cast really clicked very well.
If you go back to the Pilot around 55mins into the episode when Olivia visits Massive Dynamic for the first time, during the location establishing shot you can see a picture of a pen and a rose in the foreground. This is in reference to the serial killer and his father in this episode who have the surname ‘Penrose’. Every episode has one of these Easter eggs/clues hinting towards the events of the next episode in the series.
Fringe is the best sci-fi show ever, the cast is amazing and it had the best series finale I've ever seen, so glad you are watching it!!
I think it's great that you're empathizing with the one-off characters as well as the main characters.
It obviously taps in heavily with that vein that X-Files tapped into for sure, they certainly don't try to hide it. There's an overarching narrative that's stronger than the one in xfiles that you're not really getting hints of yet, but it's an amazing story. This show has some of my all time favourite TV characters - for sure Walter is the greatest ever, and I love Astrid to bits. Show is JJ Abrams' mystery box incarnate though, it's gonna blow your mind, and I suspect make you cry - and laugh - a lot.
While I enjoy "The X-Files", it did get kind of tiring seen a lot of the top people in the FBI getting in the way of Mulder and Scully investigation.
In "Fringe" it's quite the opposite. Even when Walter gives some of his crazy explanations, while they may hesitate a bit, they trust Olivia's judgment and get things done
I love th X-Files and grew up w it and consider it iconic, many classic eps, but Fringe's overall plotting kills it. And kills the rest of the Abrams shows. Fringe has one of the great mytharcs and payoffs in all of television. Plots within plots and they managed to hold it all together.
I appreciated your deep dive on different ways they presented trauma in the episode. I consider Fringe a favorite and I've seen the show a few times through but not in a good minute and that aspect just really hit this time.
Fringe is a cocktail of Michael Crichton, Steven King, Rod Serling, and David Cronenberg
Walter: “Ready”?
The collective “Nope”. 😂😅
"You interrupted my emotional moment, to show me some f***ed up sh*t?" And now I just can't stop laughing.
Well, you're two for two, Carmen. Love the fact that you don't rush through your thoughts about the episode afterward. Great observations. Fringe Friday is on my calendar as long as you stick with it. And as others have said below, this will not be the last time the "Bishop Boys" (particularly Walter❤️) will have you reaching for a tissue.
This show will definitely throw you through every kind of loop by the end.
That which does not kill us makes us stronger, whether we like that or not. As the sage asks his acolyte "does the sword complain of the heat of the forge or the impacts of the smith's hammer."
Thank you!! I love this series so much but almost noone reacts to it. Walter is everything❤️ i could watch that man all day.
I am so glad someone has picked this show to react to. I was actually wondering the other day if anyone would do it. You are in for a wild ride. Without wanting to perpetrate any spoilers, can we discuss The Observer? By the time I had worked it out, I had to re-watch the first season and I think the knowledge actually increased my enjoyment of the show second time around rather than detracting from it.
just started watching but i saw one of the automatically suggested video below this that you've at least (almost) finished season 1, so you may know this by now, but the glyphs you see at the end of each portion of the show (aka before the commercial break) are letters and spell out words that either have to do with the episode or hint at the next one. anyway i'm super happy i decided to try and find a fringe react video i've previously watched and that you popped up
The before commercial tiles/Glyphs, (the 6 finger print, Leaf, Butterflies etc) each represent a letter of the alphabet..spelling out a word related to the episode. You can Google Fringe Glyphs to figure them out.
A little fun game for this show, if you notice at 5:07 the bald man in the background, he appears in every episode of the show, sometimes just for a second. He will be relevant in the future, but is fun to try to spot him in every episode!
The "movement" of the light around the various pictures is indicative of which "act" you are seeing.
imagine what it must be like to live in one of the hundreds of countries that have no mental health care at all. my grandmother was institutionalized in the mental health care system of the 60's it ruined her life. believe it or not thing are better now.
32:13 THE SECRET COMMITEE it is a dud!
As mentioned on the Commentaries of my FRINGE DVD collection, in the Pilot and the early epiosedes the writers had exprerimented with a couple of angles they later on droped for the good of the show. This has been one of those. Same with Peter´s Mobster Connection when his old flame advised him to leave Boston forever to never come back.
Ha! Fringe Friday! I love it. I didn't really get into this show for a while when it first aired. I think I thought it was too derivative of too many other things and I was not convinced there was a planned storyline. It took a season or so, but I was proved wrong. It always remained cheesy, but it was the good cheese!
It was good cheese because Gene produces the best milk 🤷🏼🐮😁
You might be tickled by watching "Numb3rs."
Calling it now, you’re going to cry, a lot. About EVERYONE. But mostly Walter. Even when he doesn’t mean for you to. ESPECIALLY when he doesn’t mean for you to.
A + A¹ (left vague to avoid spoilers) is gonna break her heart wide open. Hell, it chokes me up just thinking about it.
@@AngeloBarovierSD I think that was the perfect amount of vague 👌🏼 well done
. . my god. . even in these first episodes, Walter is just too good of a character. . frail and completely broken and pulling at your heart one minute, grinning or laughing at his child-like glee in the lab the next, and then a few seconds later you get a glimpse of the man he used to be and he's a bit frightening. . so many layers, but all so well established and written. . . and perfectly acted Noble should have gotten soo many awards for this show. . if you wanna be a writer or an actor, watching Walter Bishop should be a must for your studies
Yep, I became a real John Noble fan watching FRINGE. He also appeared meanwhile in a lot of other shows like SLEEPY HOLLOW and even in a few computer games Here he dubbed for example the British Secrret Service Commander in THE SABOTEUR and the shady Real Estate Manager in L.A. NOIR.
@@rogerlynch5279 agreed he has been in a bunch of work and hes good at morphing into a role. . . but none come across as well as fringe . . . as much as its his acting, its also the incredible writing
@@Blizzard0fHope RIGHT ON, Just as a last fun fact: He and Joshua Jackson had improvised most of those angry discussions in the lab by themselves and the idea for the variations of ASTRID´s came also from John Noble himself to a DVD commentary on my FRINGE Collection
Fringe is a good example of a show that balances procedural elements with an ongoing narrative. That isn’t always easy.
It becomes increasingly 'serialized' (meaning long form plots) as it goes on, but it never altogether abandons procedural elements. Still, the plot circumstances and the nature of the world, story and situation change so radically by subsequent seasons that it was pretty much impossible for a newbie to jump in and get full enjoyment out of it. Which is why it had trouble at the time getting new viewers. But it's paid off greatly for those who watch the show from the start.
@@georgial6398 100% true, and I believe that shows such as this are much better served by being on streaming services rather than tv. Serialized content works much better this way.
@@MrSmokinDragon TV is over, even more than movies. Impossible to get non-ruined tv material made. LOTR coming out is typical. Fringe today couldn't get made streaming or on a network bc all three leads are white and hetero, and 2 are white males.
Love how vested you are in the characters already. You will find this show is full of beautiful moments like the one with Walter and Peter.
Fringe did a pretty good job portraying familiar bonds with little details that makes them real. Like streams flowing into big rivers and then ocean's deep. You would feel they are your families and friends.
It is most like a family sci-fi show. A very rare combination. It is all about family.
Great that you're already connecting with the sweet (and challenging) relationship between Walter and Peter. It's one of the most amazing parts of the show and they nail it from the jump!
You are at the edge of the rabbit hole, it goes so deep and it's glorious. Enjoy the ride, all will be revealed.
Whee! Fringe Friday! I dig it! Great reaction and post show thoughts.
The "I have seen criminal minds" got me rollin, lol.
ONE REQUEST FROM THE START TO THE END OF THE LAST ONE:
PLEASE CARMEN !! keep up to ramble on. I mean most of us viewers have seen this great show a couple of times ourselves and the best parts here are your comments and insights anyway.
"I'm sorry- you interrupted my emotional moment to show me some fucked up shit."
That's Fringe, ha ha.
Yes the picture and the glowing lights position are part of a code, each different arrangement stands for a letter.
I never understood how to decode those fringe symbols.
Don't know how you are going to wait a week to watch another episode?
To answer your question last episode regarding how people feel about broyles? He's one of those characters I think will grow on you. I was like you first episode. I couldn't stand him for most it, warmed to him a little when he asked Olivia to join his team, and then grew suspicious of what John said to Olivia at the end. But for some reason I had this persistent mistrust of John too the whole episode, not just after he was revealed to be the "bad guy", and for some reason, like with Nina Sharp, I couldn't help thinking there was more to broyles and the suspicion the show was asking us to feel. By the opening scene of of episode 2, seeing behind the scenes broyles sticking up for his team and acknowledging Olivia's dedication, I was like nah he's one of the good guys. I'll never doubt him again.
"You have no idea where I've hidden things."
Huh, having seen this show before that's very creepy.
The observers are in each and every episode. The other thing to watch out for. They used to show symbols before commercial breaks.
I'm glad you caught the apple image at the end, for me its one of the most insane details in the entire show. Someone figured out that all those images used in the transitions were a cypher, they all stand for a different letter in the alphabet so each episode has its own hidden code word, usually a refrence to the episode itself. That apple with the yellow dot at the top right apparently stands for the letter D the "glyph code" for this episode was "CHILD"
No idea how people worked it out. Especially with so few episodes (think I read it was solved halfway through S1).
Fringe aired on Fridays for at least part of its run (I can’t remember which), but I called it Fringe Fridays then, too!
Imagine if you asked about the proto molecule in season 1 ep2 of The Exspanse? Peter Bishops HEALTH CONDITION, is a major mystery that each viewer must solve. Your #Patreon should've warned you not to ask about Peter Bishop or his past. If anyone spoils you on this you'll never forgive them. #NoSpoiledplotLines . CARMEN: "If they need this fluid, why not remove it from the recently dead or already dead? Nobody needs the fluid after death, so why kill people?"; MYSELF: Yep. Very weak plot lines in the first season. Like season 1 of The Exspanse, "just setting the stage". This show has more questions with more answers.
When the show originally aired on Fox, the pictures of the apple, leaf, etc.. it was a code, if I remember correctly. I don't remember if it was decoded.
finalle someone to react to Fringe on UA-cam for me tô watch :)
Not going to spoil anything, but enjoy the wild ride.
Walter is great
Hi Carmen how are u? I hope that u had a good day
I really like your commentary on our mental health care system (or unsystem.) I'm looking at Walter's situation from three perspectives.
First, I have some serious Axis I diagnoses myself which went undiagnosed and untreated until I was in my 40s, and they caused all kinds of pain and chaos for me and the people in my life until they were under control. I have benefited tremendously from therapy, from psych meds, and from recovery programs.
Second, my wife and son have both been hospitalized as a result of psychiatric crises, and I am certain that at least three other family members were living with problems almost as challenging (two have died, one is still with us.)
Three, I got into the mental health field myself as a second career (my first career was in the Marine Corps), and I worked in settings including some inpatient treatment situations for both adolescents and adults. That's my basis for thinking I recognize some psychiatric patterns in a few of my relatives, including both my parents.
The most significant part of that second career was a total of four years I spent working as a psychotherapist in the state prison system, first for a year in a special housing unit that was an addiction treatment program, and then for three years in the forensic psychiatric hospital serving all the prisons in the state, housing the inmates with the most acute problems.
One piece of evidence of our system's inadequacy is that the prison psychiatric hospital where I worked is the biggest psychiatric treatment facility in the state. So all these people, who would probably not be in prison in the first place if they'd been able to get treatment, had to go to prison to get that treatment.
As far as quality of care is concerned, most of the staff in that prison psych hospital were actually pretty good. I had worked my way up to clinical supervisor before I was forced to retire completely after my car lost an argument with a semi in a rush hour freeway traffic pileup, and most of the therapists on staff were competent and caring - so were the nurses and most of the doctors, and the specially trained corrections officers who worked as psych techs.
However, they were still in prison, and that is a toxic environment. When someone is locked down long term in what amounts to solitary confinement as Walter was, in particular, it can mentally destabilize even a person who is mentally and emotionally healthy going in. There is a pattern called SHU (Special Housing Unit) Syndrome that many mental health professionals, myself included, think should make that kind of long term isolation illegal and designate it as a form of torture.
When I watch the way Walter's character is written and played, there's also an instant thought that if I met this person in real life, I would suspect that he was somewhere on the autism spectrum (as am I to a mild degree.) He looks like someone with what used to be called Asperger's until the DSM 5 came out, when they did away with the artificial and arbitrary division between Asperger's and autism and just called it the spectrum. Most of life's problems are really like that, more analog than digital.
Thanks for these reactions! I just started re-watching Fringe after having watched the entire series over a decade ago, and now that UA-cam and these reaction videos are a thing, I looked for reactions to Fringe and found your channel. Glad I did.
As they were in the hospital while Broyles said "...finally died from natural causes," they were passing a bald man in a dark suit standing at the hospital desk, which I hadn't noticed before in this episode until seeing your edit (5:09). There was also a flash of a bald man in a dark suit on the street in the previous episode. Looks like a Chekov's Gun to me.
Walter had a hand in a jar. Walter is a freaky hoot. Walter will come up with a lot of Trek-style technobabble, but he's funny about it.
The growing relationships between the central characters: Olivia, Walter, Peter, Astrid, Broyles, and how their backstories affect those relationships, are the real heart of the story, and it's going to be good. Every episode is not "monster of the week." In fact, it will move away from that theme in a few episodes.
i mean . . the monster of the week thing never truly goes away .. . but it isnt the whole show. . kinda like supernatural in that way. . . there are your monsters of the week, but theres also over arching stories that come and go. . . its actually a brilliant mix of the two
I'm sorry but posting specific spoiler prompts and pretending you didn't is really weak. Do not spoil this show for this girl. She'll get there when she gets there - in this case it's literally within a couple episodes of this, so why go out of your way to mention it?
And now I'm rereading your comment more carefully and you literally prompt her w spoilers for the entire show. What is wrong w you? Delete this. You're not being clever or cute or enhancing her enjoyment or experience, you're setting her up to have the show ruined for her if she reads your comment carefully and thinks about it. You are the worst. Let people experience the show for themselves the first time as you were allowed to do. You didn't have people dropping little prompts leading you to spoil the whole plot for yourself after you first saw this episode, did you? Then why do it to her?
Dude I will GLADLY DIE ON THIS HILL lmao, the way you’ve had to cut it, Fuck, it A) feels like it’s cheapening this shoe but I don’t fault you for that, B) everyone always has made fun of me for loving this, C) i also know that you’re just in the beginning so there’s so much to learn, but ugh it feels like a dart in the heart each time someone has something to negatively say😅