@Pupsker they technically didn't do it once, they did it countless times over a decade. They also created patents, obviously to sell them. The fine was relatively small too, basically a fraud tax. So I think they would be idiots to do it here because everyone is looking but I definitely think people should be watching.
Enough eyes on it right now we might find out. But they are, you can tell from how the streamer calls anyone questions it a conspiracy theorist since he's a nexon pawn
I played a lot of mmo and looter shooter and 20% drop rate is a lot. I’ve been doing the same mission over and over for almost 4 hours per day in 7 days and still didnt get a part of sharen. Clearly this is not 20%
i think that the "normal" drop rate is bugged, because i never dropped Blair or Sharen in more than 35 runs for EACH part, but got Enzo in 3 and half hours and he is only Amorphous. If everyone is "crying" about something, maybe "something" is bugged or not working as intended.
Sorry but game is clearly bugged, I've been trying The Chapel for about 45 times, and I've never gotten other drop but pattern 023. (lol I came here to flame about game bugged and I got sharen drop next run after this comment)
Just made and tried my Sharon out. Grinded her to 40 no upgrades and all I put on her was health and defense. All you do is go stealth before entering the zone and hit the buttons before your stealth breaks. Easy as can be. Skill Duration is a must have and Skill Cooldown is a luxury. If your stealth is going to break find a hiding spot and recast it. You will find out the towers give you more time but some are so easy just 1 or 2 towers will do fine. You can even use grappling hook to get somewhere faster and it didn't break my stealth. And don't forget to use the private server when you do this.
yeah her drops either you get em first try or you're gonna sit there all day, got mine on the 52nd run of seed vault, just use the opportunity to farm xp and proficiency xp
It seems when you are missing one part the RNG gets manipulated to very low. It took me over 30 times for sharen code, got others in under 5. Switching characters seems to give better luck. I switched to enzo and got it first try. Thankfully I dont know any nexxon employee I would be going to prison.
I ak both goal driven, and impatient. First Descendant is one of those games that reminds me to not get attached to results and just try to improve with every attempt. Normal Pyro pissed me off until i chilled out and assumed i would dail until i succeeded. Took over 30 tries. I try to approach these RNG dropa the same way. Just do the mission and try to make small improvements on the run. Dont hang on the results
Sharen was the first descendant I wanted to grind for, I bought gley to start cause that was my fav character based on abilities and look, now that I got her at level 40 I grinded out Sharen today and honestly most her parts took me one to two try’s outside of one that took like 6-8 try’s (also stupidly kept grinding after getting the piece I needed now I got two) 😭
I'm probably on my tenth attempt to get the code. But I focus on having fun and getting better while at it. It drops when it drops and I'm getting a ton of mats that will be very useful.
"FAST" you say.. i have been running The Chapel for about 50 times now and the stabilizer have not dropped yet.. the drop rate in this game is a f***ing joke!
I wish there was a guarantee if you ran it 20 times on a 20% drop chances. They could even adjust the drop % to account for the guarantee. It is rage inducing sometimes but would solve some of the issue if there was a guarantee. They could adjust the drop chance to account for the guarantee and would solve some of the issue for me questioning if the game is bugged when you fall into that 5% of players with extremely bad luck. People would probably still complain but I think it would be less.
I am sure they have all the data points and run it like a bell curve. I have never worked in video games, but work in big data analytics and I feel like it would be easy to do.
I've played destiny and Warframe for years and I've never had bad luck until trying to get sharen parts from operations. It's so annoying I've done the dungeon around 60 times I could run it blindfolded 😂
I don't get it why is that hard to get her.....I've been farming 3 missions for 3 parts of her and didn't got a single one...I got just one out of 4 parts
Their drop rate is complete BS. More people complaining including me, ive done too many runs to count of these different missions that drop her stuff and never gotten any of them. No way its 20%
Coming from a 15+ year WOW veteran and a WF player since release, you're hard coping here. The drop rates they claim, are a lie and people more intelligent than you or I have done the math on it already on the forums. They're not accurate. It's not just one or two situations of massively "unlucky" drop rates but a consistently lower than stated for most people you talk to.
would b nice if they added a cap, e.g. 20% change, but guaranteed after 5 runs, so u might get it in 1st or 3rd but if not, u will have it guaranteed. reading the comments here is scary, 40 runs no luck? there seem to b much better things to do in life than that.
I definitely do not feel the rng being bad or maybe im lucky. Nothing i need to farm is limited like relics in warframe. I just run a quick 2 min sometimes missions and i get what i want. Espc w your guides lol
Last week I was farming for Frey an and got stuck in the cells. I ran the mission for 12 hours straight. Nothing. Someone in Reddit said they fixed the drop rate, so I tried again and got it on the second run. I think it was bugged, but they likely got fixed it. So hopefully Sharen was hot fixed as well.
Or you get unlucky. You are looking for specific result out of X possibilities were that specific result do not start on that high chance to begin with. Or didi you forget to make offerings to Nuffle, Chaos God of Blood Bowl and chance?
@@filipmaly6603 I don’t understand why people are so willing to die on this hill. Whether it was just bad luck, or if it was bugged, it doesn’t matter anymore. I love the game, and I’m glad that it seems like the drops are working as intended NOW. Is it possible I was just THAT unlucky? Yeah. Is it probable? No. I My experience was that something seemed weird when the game dropped. Secondarily Nexon has been caught in the past lying about drop rates. I think it was bugged. I’m not claiming that it was, but my experience and the experiences of my friends we all agree something seemed weird the first week of two after release.
@@filipmaly6603 I don’t think the game “knows”, but if you want to get technical I’m sure that AI could discern the patterns based on trends from other players. I’m not saying it “knew” I was farming for Freyna. I’m saying that I think the mission that dropped the Freyna Cells was significantly lower chance than 20%. That’s the only one I had trouble with. Some other items I farmed took 10 runs, 20 runs even, but those cells were well past that until I gave up trying for the cells. I simply think that the drop rate was bugged for Freyna cells. Maybe 2% instead of 20%, and they hotfixed it. Could be wrong, but I see where you’re coming from. I’ve heard people say things like that, but I don’t think that way.
Only person I've seen that actually understands it's 20% chance to drop, 80% chance to not drop every single run. So many people think if they do it 5 or 10 times they should get it. I never knew there were so many people that didn't understand probability. I was taught how probability works when I was like 10 years old
Nah I got the stabilizer and transcendent mod twice while going for the code. You gonna tell me i hit under 2% 4 times before i hit 20%??? Its obviously manipulation with the odds I hope they get sued again.
I have sharon the invis doesnt last ling gnough and i see vods of ppl doing it with mods. But ingot the dame mods it doesnt work and ive had to have a team of sharons to do this. No one explains it...
Don't even attempt to finish this video. Everything he said is a complete nothing burger. Every word that came out of his mouth, the game literally tells you. Total waste of time.
I really like grinding for characters, but when I spend all of my available time to play just redoing the same mission 20 times (Even more so with some of my other grinds going on) then I get a little impatient.
Two days tryng to farm pieces to create Sharen, and none of these drops off... The drop rate is very low. I Will give up from this game, all mechanics in this crap is desiged to persuade us to buy new Descendants with real Money. In The end, The First Descendant is a bad game
Funny thing is Nexxon WERE dynamically manipulating rng's in their old game and got fined for it lol, lets hope they aren't doing it this time
It's truly the meme that keeps on giving. They did it once therefore they must be doing it now XD
@@Pupsker To be fair, they actually did it twice, not once. Their last fine was this current year BTW lol
@Pupsker they technically didn't do it once, they did it countless times over a decade. They also created patents, obviously to sell them. The fine was relatively small too, basically a fraud tax.
So I think they would be idiots to do it here because everyone is looking but I definitely think people should be watching.
Enough eyes on it right now we might find out. But they are, you can tell from how the streamer calls anyone questions it a conspiracy theorist since he's a nexon pawn
Right lol I grinded for 3 hours to get the Enzo stabilizer which is a 38% drop rate 😅
I played a lot of mmo and looter shooter and 20% drop rate is a lot. I’ve been doing the same mission over and over for almost 4 hours per day in 7 days and still didnt get a part of sharen. Clearly this is not 20%
Exactly
@@domeexvii welcome to nexon
agreed, 20% should b incorrect
looks like i have to take a break cuz i didn't get sharen cells in 27 tries in a row 😂😂
I got cells after 42.
Other parts dropped easily cuz they just dropped between 3rd to 10th try
Same…That is patented nexon drop %.
@@Yuk1chiSama bro ive been doing the mission for the code for like 4-5days non stop & i cant get this bs🤦🏾♂️😭literally the last thing i need
3rd tried and the rest 1st try and the code is still on going :D
I am at least 40 runs.
i think that the "normal" drop rate is bugged, because i never dropped Blair or Sharen in more than 35 runs for EACH part, but got Enzo in 3 and half hours and he is only Amorphous. If everyone is "crying" about something, maybe "something" is bugged or not working as intended.
I got the 1% sooner than the 20% that still doesn't come out after 20 attempts
Sorry but game is clearly bugged, I've been trying The Chapel for about 45 times, and I've never gotten other drop but pattern 023. (lol I came here to flame about game bugged and I got sharen drop next run after this comment)
@@mrcheems7963 i CANNOT wait 45 runs dawg 😭🙏
@@darthgamerONcoke real
Bro stabilizer at the chapel drop is nut
Just made and tried my Sharon out. Grinded her to 40 no upgrades and all I put on her was health and defense. All you do is go stealth before entering the zone and hit the buttons before your stealth breaks. Easy as can be. Skill Duration is a must have and Skill Cooldown is a luxury. If your stealth is going to break find a hiding spot and recast it. You will find out the towers give you more time but some are so easy just 1 or 2 towers will do fine. You can even use grappling hook to get somewhere faster and it didn't break my stealth. And don't forget to use the private server when you do this.
Anyone else finding it ironic that they’re stuck on asylum slowly losing there mind.
Currently stuck 😭
@joshbonham-kovalik2128 yes, i lost count. It won't drop
Yep
I’ve done the damned asylum like 20 times.
@joshbonham-kovalik2128 I've ran it 41 times. Haven't gotten shared code..
yeah her drops either you get em first try or you're gonna sit there all day, got mine on the 52nd run of seed vault, just use the opportunity to farm xp and proficiency xp
It seems when you are missing one part the RNG gets manipulated to very low. It took me over 30 times for sharen code, got others in under 5. Switching characters seems to give better luck. I switched to enzo and got it first try. Thankfully I dont know any nexxon employee I would be going to prison.
@Alfhar Omg you were right! I got it first try after switching character 🤣
The game is more focused on gyat than drop rate
Ran chapel 20 times and got it.. I was losing my mind after round 6.. Shit was brazy.
Got the first aid transcendant mod first on my first clear and still no part after 30 tries. The asylum is driving me crazy
I do hope they add a pity system cause things are rough
I ak both goal driven, and impatient. First Descendant is one of those games that reminds me to not get attached to results and just try to improve with every attempt. Normal Pyro pissed me off until i chilled out and assumed i would dail until i succeeded. Took over 30 tries. I try to approach these RNG dropa the same way. Just do the mission and try to make small improvements on the run. Dont hang on the results
1 billion attempts at typing, still typos
I agree with this approach, helped me stay calm haha!
Sharen was the first descendant I wanted to grind for, I bought gley to start cause that was my fav character based on abilities and look, now that I got her at level 40 I grinded out Sharen today and honestly most her parts took me one to two try’s outside of one that took like 6-8 try’s (also stupidly kept grinding after getting the piece I needed now I got two) 😭
@seanseams6308 wish I was as lucky. I've hit up her enhanced cells mission over 20 times, still haven't got it.
I'm probably on my tenth attempt to get the code.
But I focus on having fun and getting better while at it. It drops when it drops and I'm getting a ton of mats that will be very useful.
Up to about 37 runs now and cant get the part.
nah wtf was that noise after he saw the ultimate bunny in albion
"FAST" you say.. i have been running The Chapel for about 50 times now and the stabilizer have not dropped yet.. the drop rate in this game is a f***ing joke!
I just got my Void Domination after my 96th success run ❤ I LOVE SHARENNNN
I wish there was a guarantee if you ran it 20 times on a 20% drop chances. They could even adjust the drop % to account for the guarantee. It is rage inducing sometimes but would solve some of the issue if there was a guarantee. They could adjust the drop chance to account for the guarantee and would solve some of the issue for me questioning if the game is bugged when you fall into that 5% of players with extremely bad luck. People would probably still complain but I think it would be less.
I am sure they have all the data points and run it like a bell curve. I have never worked in video games, but work in big data analytics and I feel like it would be easy to do.
HAD TO LOOK THIS UP cause after 4 hours im like WHAT AM I DOING WRONG glad the comments dont make me feel alone
I have farm Sharen for 3 day nonstop at chapel and asylum, i am slowly losing my mind now
72 runs, still no stabilizer 😭... But I'm gona take a beak lol cos I am losing my mind
I'm doing an average of 50 missions to get each piece of it haha all that's missing is the code and the spiral
Holy, very unlucky for sure
I'm currently farming her code and I hate every second about that mission/boss
I can relate to that... been at it for 5h. Still nothing
Soon as i say it,i get the very next attempt
I've played destiny and Warframe for years and I've never had bad luck until trying to get sharen parts from operations. It's so annoying I've done the dungeon around 60 times I could run it blindfolded 😂
I don't get it why is that hard to get her.....I've been farming 3 missions for 3 parts of her and didn't got a single one...I got just one out of 4 parts
I managed to get enzo and sharen within the same weekend. A buddy is ten runs in and strugglin. Rng is a pain lol
Their drop rate is complete BS. More people complaining including me, ive done too many runs to count of these different missions that drop her stuff and never gotten any of them. No way its 20%
Coming from a 15+ year WOW veteran and a WF player since release, you're hard coping here. The drop rates they claim, are a lie and people more intelligent than you or I have done the math on it already on the forums. They're not accurate.
It's not just one or two situations of massively "unlucky" drop rates but a consistently lower than stated for most people you talk to.
The drop rates actually seem pretty accurate to me, rnJesus must be kind though
Of the 4 parts 3 I got within 3 tries, the 4th was 27 runs. lol.
ive been doing chapel like 10 times now over and over again lol. still hasn't dropped.
@@xyr3s Yup, going for that Sharon part also? lol. The same thing I was talking about above.
Did 77 runs and still ne sharen parts fron desert but i got all the parts from swamp in 10runs so i think its nerfed in some way or bugged
would b nice if they added a cap, e.g. 20% change, but guaranteed after 5 runs, so u might get it in 1st or 3rd but if not, u will have it guaranteed. reading the comments here is scary, 40 runs no luck? there seem to b much better things to do in life than that.
Thank you! I was losing hope, watched this, then 1 shot it :)
I definitely do not feel the rng being bad or maybe im lucky. Nothing i need to farm is limited like relics in warframe. I just run a quick 2 min sometimes missions and i get what i want. Espc w your guides lol
I ran Shelter for Freyna 35 times before it it dropped, the only thing i can suggest is a hard cope to nonbelievers, lmao 😂
BRO I HEARD " JEREMY " NAME MORE THAN MY NAME!!
Was hoping you had better info than "rng is a fickle mistress" lol
My luck been shit
Last week I was farming for Frey an and got stuck in the cells. I ran the mission for 12 hours straight. Nothing.
Someone in Reddit said they fixed the drop rate, so I tried again and got it on the second run.
I think it was bugged, but they likely got fixed it. So hopefully Sharen was hot fixed as well.
Or you get unlucky. You are looking for specific result out of X possibilities were that specific result do not start on that high chance to begin with. Or didi you forget to make offerings to Nuffle, Chaos God of Blood Bowl and chance?
@@filipmaly6603 I don’t understand why people are so willing to die on this hill. Whether it was just bad luck, or if it was bugged, it doesn’t matter anymore. I love the game, and I’m glad that it seems like the drops are working as intended NOW. Is it possible I was just THAT unlucky? Yeah. Is it probable? No. I
My experience was that something seemed weird when the game dropped. Secondarily Nexon has been caught in the past lying about drop rates.
I think it was bugged. I’m not claiming that it was, but my experience and the experiences of my friends we all agree something seemed weird the first week of two after release.
@@dougcoffey3496 I am not dying anywhere my friend. I am trying to save you from brainrot. How do you think game would know what are you farming?
@@filipmaly6603 I don’t think the game “knows”, but if you want to get technical I’m sure that AI could discern the patterns based on trends from other players.
I’m not saying it “knew” I was farming for Freyna. I’m saying that I think the mission that dropped the Freyna Cells was significantly lower chance than 20%. That’s the only one I had trouble with.
Some other items I farmed took 10 runs, 20 runs even, but those cells were well past that until I gave up trying for the cells. I simply think that the drop rate was bugged for Freyna cells. Maybe 2% instead of 20%, and they hotfixed it.
Could be wrong, but I see where you’re coming from. I’ve heard people say things like that, but I don’t think that way.
@@dougcoffey3496 In that case I can assure you it is skill issue. Got mine on second run. Have you done your offerings and prayers to Nuffle?
10 - 20 times is rookie numbers try 47 runs of the same operation with still no drops 😵💫
It is annoying but it's not all a waste I tried the infratation 12 times and got a transcends module etc
Yo Pupsker , did u know you can actually forma the sub module slot so you get 15+ instead of +10 slots
Yeah I saw last night on reddit people were chatting about it
Only person I've seen that actually understands it's 20% chance to drop, 80% chance to not drop every single run.
So many people think if they do it 5 or 10 times they should get it. I never knew there were so many people that didn't understand probability. I was taught how probability works when I was like 10 years old
But i re run it 30-35 time and still not got it that a problem
Nah I got the stabilizer and transcendent mod twice while going for the code. You gonna tell me i hit under 2% 4 times before i hit 20%??? Its obviously manipulation with the odds I hope they get sued again.
I have sharon the invis doesnt last ling gnough and i see vods of ppl doing it with mods. But ingot the dame mods it doesnt work and ive had to have a team of sharons to do this.
No one explains it...
I got it on my 5th try! My friend got it on the 23, and my neohew got it on the 35+ (lost coubt but bo nore then 40
I got all parts with first try include code except second part took me 20 tries
Day 3 of grinding to get the stabiliser…. Still no luck. RNGesus isn’t with me.
I’ve spent hours trying to get it and I never do 😢😅
20% feels like 1%
i farmed sharen code for 4 hours 20 runs
40 runs in for the cells and still didnt get it
Ive done the Sharen Code run 15 rimes and no draop 😅😢 i hate this game sometimes
I got all 3 Sharen sells first try BUT Sharen Code I'm still having bad luck after 20 trys :(
Sounds like skill issue. Got it on my 9th run.
^gay.
Try switching characters every couple runs seems to give better “luck.”
Enzo farm next?
20 runs for 1 then just 1 run for the other lol
Don't even attempt to finish this video. Everything he said is a complete nothing burger. Every word that came out of his mouth, the game literally tells you. Total waste of time.
Don't wanna put my tin foil hat but 20 run, 3 void domination and no sharen, the game is broken.
Did the chapel quest 20 times and just caved after not getting the material once. Actually drove me insane. Ended up buying her instead :(
I really like grinding for characters, but when I spend all of my available time to play just redoing the same mission 20 times (Even more so with some of my other grinds going on) then I get a little impatient.
@@galaxyrequiem8410 It all comes down to luck, i got it first try but her other parts took hours
@@galaxyrequiem8410 im walking in your shoe i have every piece but the chapel im 34 run in over a 2 day period
@@Dalife2013I just started on chapel and still haven’t gotten Sharen.. am I cooked?
and that is why no one will remember your name
On my 4th hour right now… how is this 20% bruh
Got the code on 10th run
I’m on day number 5 of farming for frayna mod for a 2.3% drop chance I love this game 😒😒😒 lmao
Yea but top piece and third piece I’m like 40 runs in on each and nothing 🌚🌚🌚 that 20% is bs lol maybe 1%
Lol thats not fast 😂😂😂
Two days tryng to farm pieces to create Sharen, and none of these drops off... The drop rate is very low. I Will give up from this game, all mechanics in this crap is desiged to persuade us to buy new Descendants with real Money. In The end, The First Descendant is a bad game
It is not broken, its just lying
Ultimate Bunyy after 5x in Void Reactor.
I'm destined to get her.
Now I just need Sharen coz Defense is boring asf
Nobody's going to ever convince me that a 20% drop rate should take 5+ hours to STILL NOT GET. I've seen better RNG in Black Desert Online 👎👎👎.
Just got the cells 1st try … got the stabilizer 4th try … onto the final one ☝️ got her 4th try on final
73 runs and still no sharen code...