Guys you better hurry up with this as the skill needed to maintain this equipment is all most gone. Your policies of not being a manufacturing country had killed this type of work and the skill. I'm 56 a Fitter and Turner CNC Machinist there's no one behind us, and we are the last generation. There was no apprentices after us in the 90's and that continuing today. I spent 11 years in Aerospace manufacturing between 2001 and 2011 and it was killed off by the Australian government.
@@nevkirkham7657 yeah well the automotive was an advancement in technology that wasn’t tied up in state secrets. Nor was it able to be canceled in Australia with an act of the US Congress or the President. Nor did we have to sign secret multi billion dollar deal that could be canceled in a year for any reason. Nor did they take 20 years to come to the country, as the private sector brought them in. We didn’t have to give Detroit $4 billion dollar equivalent to ramp up production so we could get our first car in Australia. Your point is moot.
@@paulmathews4335 Australia does not have the skills, facilities, industry or naval personnel to maintain them, operate perhaps, maintain fully not for many years.
A waste of money. Why not build drone submarines, a lot cheaper to build and maintain. But then again it’s only taxpayers money. There’s plenty more of that.
I thought the plan was to build a new class that could be utilised by all three nations… Specifically for the Attack Submarines, not the deterrent classes.
The Virginia's are a stopgap SSN capability before we acquire the joint Australian-UK SSN AUKUS. Australia will acquire no "deterrent" class, what I assume you refer to is SSBN/Ballistic Missile Submarines.
Ok so first Grey areas identified not new 2nd hand ,like to see detailed cost projections on maintenance as to my knowledge this is the most expensive system to maintain still the issue of what weapons will be deployed is avoided if it is nuclear declare it start reasoning out why it will be so to avoid drama down the line not against nuke subs and weapons just want clarity
1:13 which translates to 3 depot maintenance on schedule for a submarine that has a life cycle that is far longer than anything else we have currently available on the planet theoretically. So this all looks like picking bat shet from pepper, really.
what happened to the statements of a new design UK boat that UK would build first one in class. total lies was always about US off loading de commissioned boats with all rebuilds and refits in US yards with all money to the USA. total lies lies lies. billions and billions to US yards.
The original plan was always 3 virginia class with an option of 2 more then building uk designed boats in Australia, you have detected no lies and trust me most people in this comments section have your level of understanding or worse
You can clearly speak mandarin. I can’t and have no intention. I am more than happy for my $42000 that I paid in tax last year to be used to pay for these submarines and not some dole bludger.
@@garry19681a couple of subs won’t last 5 minutes against China. Besides China is already invading Australia, buying every property, farm, mine and cattle station. They won’t need to use force.
Talking about terrorists placing military complexes amongst civilians? Australian military Incompetence has ensured HMAS Stirling naval base, Perth, Western Australia is an inevitable first strike nuclear target. It is fact, prevailing SW winds will blanket NW Perth in nuclear fallout. Only an idiot would put greater Perth upon this inevitable track. There are many better options where fallout would have a zero 400 km impact.
@@uppy4849 He is only stating the obvious and he is possibly well read on the subject. The co-ordinances of all first day targets have already been entered into the guidance systems of 'foreign' intercontinental armaments.
@@Nathanct43 Disagree? Today ALL major powers are able to track ALL surface and submerged submarines day and night. The co-ordnance of all submarines is known 24/7. Major powers have developed missiles to eliminate submarines before declaring any future War. Submarines are useless today, what use are they going to be in 2025 when Australia gets its first?
@@rossevans1774bizarre that you think that. Tell me why are so many countries putting huge amounts of money into new submarines. Although possibly someone up high could see your insightful comment on this clip and stop there countries sub program.
Agreed, it's a furphy today, and in 10 years it will be an obsolete furphy that has cost the Australian taxpayer 4 times the original price and continues to drain the Australian economy.
Thanks for posting these Hearings, these videos are the only time I will actually learn about AUKUS beyond a boring media release
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Guys you better hurry up with this as the skill needed to maintain this equipment is all most gone. Your policies of not being a manufacturing country had killed this type of work and the skill. I'm 56 a Fitter and Turner CNC Machinist there's no one behind us, and we are the last generation. There was no apprentices after us in the 90's and that continuing today. I spent 11 years in Aerospace manufacturing between 2001 and 2011 and it was killed off by the Australian government.
Government and industry have a lot to answer for, with the constant exporting of Australian jobs.
Why can’t politicians give clear answers to the questions they are asked? This gentleman should be a shining example in how to do it.
I answered your question to begin with, that said, let me explain my position and since I get paid by the hour, I shall continue to speak, okay......
@@davidareevesthe person answering the questions is not a politician, do you understand
Such nuclear capability is long overdue in Australia.
We are never going to see a single boat.
@@MightyJosh1985 The automobile?? Won't happen, have all the horses and carts we will ever need. No one can afford an automobile!
@@nevkirkham7657 yeah well the automotive was an advancement in technology that wasn’t tied up in state secrets. Nor was it able to be canceled in Australia with an act of the US Congress or the President. Nor did we have to sign secret multi billion dollar deal that could be canceled in a year for any reason. Nor did they take 20 years to come to the country, as the private sector brought them in. We didn’t have to give Detroit $4 billion dollar equivalent to ramp up production so we could get our first car in Australia. Your point is moot.
Been interested in the development of these new subs, but looking at the manual, I cannot quite figure out, do they come with fly-screens or Nargh
We are decades away from having the capability to service these boats in Australia.
By which time the technology will probably exist to accurately scan the ocean, thus making subs irrelevant, lol.
The first virginal class is scheduled to arrive in 2032, so no that is not accurate
@wolfie54321 so all of the major militaries in the world are putting many billions into building subs but you know better
@@paulmathews4335 Yes, , if you doubt me look into the history of the Australian Submarine program.
@@paulmathews4335 Australia does not have the skills, facilities, industry or naval personnel to maintain them, operate perhaps, maintain fully not for many years.
A waste of money. Why not build drone submarines, a lot cheaper to build and maintain. But then again it’s only taxpayers money. There’s plenty more of that.
I thought the plan was to build a new class that could be utilised by all three nations… Specifically for the Attack Submarines, not the deterrent classes.
No that is not correct, hyper hysterical history is a good youtube channel to look at if you want to understand this subject
The Virginia's are a stopgap SSN capability before we acquire the joint Australian-UK SSN AUKUS. Australia will acquire no "deterrent" class, what I assume you refer to is SSBN/Ballistic Missile Submarines.
No need for maintenance , they will run aground and sink before first service
Ok so first Grey areas identified not new 2nd hand ,like to see detailed cost projections on maintenance as to my knowledge this is the most expensive system to maintain still the issue of what weapons will be deployed is avoided if it is nuclear declare it start reasoning out why it will be so to avoid drama down the line not against nuke subs and weapons just want clarity
1:13 which translates to 3 depot maintenance on schedule for a submarine that has a life cycle that is far longer than anything else we have currently available on the planet theoretically. So this all looks like picking bat shet from pepper, really.
Ground hog day .
Thanks for this.... Let's Hope we don't get an Obsolete , unmaintainable Weapons System vehicle. Just saying...
What a bunch of dopes.
what happened to the statements of a new design UK boat that UK would build first one in class. total lies was always about US off loading de commissioned boats with all rebuilds and refits in US yards with all money to the USA. total lies lies lies. billions and billions to US yards.
The original plan was always 3 virginia class with an option of 2 more then building uk designed boats in Australia, you have detected no lies and trust me most people in this comments section have your level of understanding or worse
Waste of Money.
You can clearly speak mandarin. I can’t and have no intention. I am more than happy for my $42000 that I paid in tax last year to be used to pay for these submarines and not some dole bludger.
@@garry19681a couple of subs won’t last 5 minutes against China. Besides China is already invading Australia, buying every property, farm, mine and cattle station. They won’t need to use force.
Looking forward to some cutting edge tools to keep greedy dictatorships from taking our stuff.
These subs will never happen 👋
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They will happen lmao
@@Nathanct43 When?
Talking about terrorists placing military complexes amongst civilians? Australian military Incompetence has ensured HMAS Stirling naval base, Perth, Western Australia is an inevitable first strike nuclear target. It is fact, prevailing SW winds will blanket NW Perth in nuclear fallout. Only an idiot would put greater Perth upon this inevitable track. There are many better options where fallout would have a zero 400 km impact.
wow, we got a keyboard warrior advising about naval planning and strategic operations! Bravo.
@@uppy4849 He is only stating the obvious and he is possibly well read on the subject. The co-ordinances of all first day targets have already been entered into the guidance systems of 'foreign' intercontinental armaments.
@@uppy4849 WOW we have nincompoops using civies as shields
@@uppy4849 nincompoops
Amazing opinions of Australian capabilities ?
Australia has been duped.
@@rossevans1774couldn't disagree more.
@@Nathanct43 Disagree? Today ALL major powers are able to track ALL surface and submerged submarines day and night. The co-ordnance of all submarines is known 24/7. Major powers have developed missiles to eliminate submarines before declaring any future War. Submarines are useless today, what use are they going to be in 2025 when Australia gets its first?
@@Nathanct43 Disagree all you like, before war is declared all submarines will be eliminated.
@@rossevans1774bizarre that you think that. Tell me why are so many countries putting huge amounts of money into new submarines. Although possibly someone up high could see your insightful comment on this clip and stop there countries sub program.
Way Australia spend tax money in some things Very olds and a very old. Tecnology
Agreed, it's a furphy today, and in 10 years it will be an obsolete furphy that has cost the Australian taxpayer 4 times the original price and continues to drain the Australian economy.